Where were you when fightning games got saved? https://www.

>>386542171
I hope this doesn't end up like For Honor

>>386542171
How do they see with those masks on?

This isn't a fighting game.

>>386542171
Is it out yet?

Three fighting styles and none of them are grappler. Call me when a character that's actually larger than a toothpick is added.

>>386543395
back to /r/Kappa with you faggot

Shitter balance than for honor

>>386542171
it looks really cool. thanks for sharing this information

>>386545889
how?

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>>386545889
Explain anon

>play the beta
>that small area
>no boss fight
>beat the same AI over and over
>get moves
>play pvp

I wanted to like it so much. Also fuck pvp, shit gets boring so fast.

>>386546443
>>386546550

First issue I can think of is a PvE one, namely the fact that the combat engine isn't well designed for 1vX (like for honor?) , and the game really really likes throwing a lot of enemies at you at once. The controls for switching targets are really clunky and annoying

Added to the fact it takes a while to unlock all the slots in your combat deck the thing you're supposed to be building up the entire time and that the defense ability which has a whole can of worms of balance problems

Additionally, you know the perfect attacks they've hyped up? Well, since I can't go into detail, there's a reason they're done on the attack before the one that benefits from it, and it promotes a spammy playstyle, at least in the beta.

Weapons/magic are incredibly powerful and easy to get, and in fact a certain combo let players get a completely free heal, which are again, very powerful. Swords get simply oppressive as you cannot be defensive against them, and they can be defensive against you. But, the ability to knock it out of your opponents hand is a very good balancing factor, although less so if you've never built a deck for the sword.

>>386545889
nigga is this game even out yet? you and I both know that for honors combat is flawed as fuck right now

>>386546724
Well, I haven't played the beta so I have to believe you. But I hope that once the game comes out and bigger ammount of players start playing it and giving feedback they will adress the issues with balance.

>>386546724

Okay maybe the stuff you said was kinda right but the devs will fix them they will be way better than for honors

>>386546724

Your only right about the defense ability being dumb as fuck,spammy playstyles, and the weapons


getting a deck was not that hard

>>386546724

git gud faggo

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>>386546724
>>386547242
>make a martial arts game, promoting your game as a "skilled fight game"
>add random swords, heals and retarded abilities

someone has to pay for this, I'm guessing the MOBA crowd is the one to blame

>>386542257
This smells so much of that game

Only thing I give a fuck about is cool staff gameplay. And so far I haven't seen any.

>>386546724
I don't have enough time to rebuke all the retarded shit you said so I'll just settle for the easiest
>A certain combo lets them get a free heal
Woah shit son they just pushed you away for all of their mana just so you could heal too, amazing. Not to mention healing is a shit ability that is easily interrupted and works more like vampirism

>>386547681
You know weapons are part of martial arts right?

>>386542171
>TCG+Fightan game hybrid
That's actually a pretty neat idea, but the execution kinda looks like shit

>>386550653
It's a card game only in the fact you have "decks". There is nothing else TCG about it

Sounds fun but a select few autists who are really good at the game will make it not fun

>>386546636
came here to post this.
>on the hype train since its first e3 trailer
>get into beta
>fun as fuck for 5 hours tops
>never touch again

>>386551058
Hol up you got 5 hours out of 3 areas?

And there are 12 areas, huh. Sounds like even your PvE centered ass would've bit the 1 buck per hour ratio

>>386550261
yes, what I mean is having the game have an emphasis on martial "unarmed" arts, suddenly you whip out your sword with your crystal mana, I found it weird

>>386551240
The pvp was alright but like >>386550934 said the game had too many tryhard autists

>>386551412
Game is dead fucking simple though, 90% of difficulty comes from on the spot adaptation to an opponents deck. There is no execution barrier, spacing is a joke, all you have is reads and reactions. A "tryhard" at this game would be the equivalent of someone tryharding at rock paper scissors.

>>386551412
>>386550934
Why even come into a thread for a multiplayer game, when you don't like multiplayer games?

>>386542171
Does this game have a campaign or is it just tryhard online faggotry?

>>386551591
>A "tryhard" at this game would be the equivalent of someone tryharding at rock paper scissors.
not true. A lot of the moves in the combat deck overpower the fuck out of early and casual players. The high level autists would nuke me with their overpowered heavy attacks. No skill involved

>>386542171

>For Honor 2

anyone who's played can you answer these questions:

>difference between parry,absorb,dodge. the animation is different but they all look the same
>how good is blocking, is it high/low blocking, how does guard break work, chip damage, ect
>is there a stamina system

>>386551591
deck , wtf you can equip faculties in this game?

>>386552120
There isn't one heavy attack in this game that doesn't give twice the reaction time to respond to, not to mention blocking is cheap and efficient as fuck in this game. Sure a completely new retard will get blown out by the virtue of possibly losing his controller or something, but the skill ceiling and floor are very low.

>>386552020
its pve and pvp open world with additional pvp gamemode matchmaking

>>386542171
art style is so shit also lol at them being too lazy to even model faces.

>>386552259
Parry is based on timing left or right for a counter attack, stops their combo.

Avoid is 4 directional, doesn't stop their combo but leaves more time for you to counter.

Absorb is one directional and still makes you lose health you can gain back by attacking, but its the simplest and the best for learning new moves.

There is a stamina system, defensive abilities give you stamina on successful use and there are guardbreak moves that eat your stamina away. Regular blocking is a basic one button thing, no high or lows.

>>386552318
>just dodge bro lmao
kys dumbass

>>386543312
It would be extremely painful..

>>386552694
Actually you may find I said the opposite of that. The thing you wanted to quote was
>just block bro lmao

Combat just looks like a watered down Tekken.

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>>386542171
>online melee combat

>>386545889
>game is not even out
>lol shitty balance
I'm pretty sure balance is one of the last things they work on, and it can be worked on even after launch.

>>386552410
>open world
I'm out.

>>386552943
Thats like all fighting games?

Are you suffering brain damage?

>>386551412

Lame ass faggot

>>386553024
Fighting games have been shit ever since they went online desu.

>>386552583
this clears up a lot, thanks

but its true the game will devolve into only a select few super good players while they constantly wreck newbies

As soon as they make a single fighting game where you can't spam cheat shit and win 90% of matches, they will be saved.

>>386553226
Low skill ceiling.

It doesn't have the potential of fighting games where a new guy will enter online and lose all 100 out of 100 games

>>386553357
thats even worse for honor suffers from the same thing

>>386553527
>dude wtf there is always going to be some tryhards at the top
>actually it's pretty easy to reach that point and challenge those people
>wow what a shit game lmao

>>386552829
You're a big guy

>>386554554
Kys

>>386542171
I'm still waiting for that fighting game with the bunny people that the one dev guy takes longer to make YouTube videos of every trivial details on, than developing the actual game.

looks like a slowed down blade symphony, clunkiness and all

>>386551412
yea how dare someone be better than you at a video game

>>386556586
Blade symphony was slow as fuck you are dellusional
>>386556264
Its approaching a playable state, but its combat is too complete shit.
Like 4 different moves and 50000000 million ways to render the ears of the rabbit, the developer let his autism take control and forgot to make a good game

>>386556740
What was even the name of the bunny game? I forgot. Stupid fuck took way too long to make his shitty game.

>>386556740
>Blade symphony was slow as fuck you are dellusional
and this game looks even slower

>>386557245
Nigga I'm not going to put the footage of both games side by side and compare speed of attacks but let it be known you are batshit insane
>>386556984
Overgrowth

>>386556690
There was one player who would destroy the devs without breaking a sweat

>>386558198
Devs aren't known to be good at their games

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>>386553226
>>386550934
>>386551412
/v/ is this fucking casual now that they are scared of even a little bit of challenge.

Is this what the moba and fps fags have brought into the gaming world? Is this why every fucking multiplayer game being released has the depth of a fucking puddle?

>>386552583
About absorb...

Is there any point in absorbing during the first or second attack? Because I feel like, if you absorb the second attack, you're going to be stunned by the third one, and thus lose any purpose of the absorb.

Since people will obviously be open after the third attack, I would guess that you should only absorb and counter the third attack.

>>386558887
I think you may be misunderstanding how the deck system works

the strings don't end at the third hit, the third hit simply usually changes the persons stance, so they start doing the string on that stance without a pause or an "opening".

You're right that absorbing a hit is dumb if you know there will be a quick followup, but there is no strict rule dictating that it's the third or fourth hit that will determine your counter will go through, shit depends on how they build their deck and when a slow move appears.

>>386546724
>Weapons/magic are incredibly powerful and easy to get


DROPPED

same mistake that for honor made with this stupid "rage" system or whatever its called

>>386559280
Am I correct then in assuming that an Absorb build should always open up with a quick attack?

Also, I'm a little unclear on how the healing works... Do you have to hit the opponent within a second of absorbing? Or hit them after absorbing BEFORE they hit you? I'm a bit confused.

>>386542171
>half-assed mocap not even slightly tweaked for the character's proportions

This is hideous.

>>386559450
yeah you have to hit them before they hit you, and depending on the strength of the attack you get more of the health back. It would be ideal to make your counters quick, yeah. Not every sequence you have has to start with a quick punch but you should know which stances have them and are available for you to counter with.

>>386559825
So if you get hit after absorbing, you've wasted the absorb.
Excellent. Thank you for the advice. Kahlt seems like the riskiest of the styles, for a greater reward...? I suppose I'll have to find out when I play, and if I want to change to Windfall.

>>386560019
It's a pretty low reward, honestly.

The main advantage of khalt I found in the beta was that it made learning moves REALLY easy. No risk of screwing up the direction, the timing is pretty easy, it doesn't interrupt the combo so you can also absorb the next moves. In comparison to parry and avoid it's PvP utility seemed rather lackluster.