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How dare they sexualize a spider! Have game devs gone too

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How dare they sexualize a spider! Have game devs gone too far this time?
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they should sexualize her more
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i'd sexualize her real good if you know what i mean
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pls sexualize the spider even more
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>>386526439
fucking boring character design
shelob is supposed to be a giant fucking spider not a generic dark lady with big tits
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>>386526562
>big
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>>386526562
they must be taking advice from japan

>make everything a big booby lady

oh well shadow of mordor was always dumb
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>>386526439
It's just boring as fuck. Like, at least Quelaag was interesting looking. It's just a full blown shapeshift, the most boring kind especially when it's a monster turning into a human, with the human form basically used to escape from having to animate or show the monster much at all.
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>>386526439
What? How the fuck this makes any sense? When does Shelob is even HINTED at having this sort of power!?
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I would care, but I don't because
>Loot crates
>Cash shop
>Single Player

get fucked
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>>386526439
You know what, dragons and other magical beasts are known to be able to freely take on human form in legends. But in this case it was clearly done for pure sex appeal.
Was there any reason why they couldn't just let her have her canonical giant spider form? If she had to talk they could just make her do so telepathically.
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>>386527094
I will care though because this is the number 1 problem in video games. The representation of females in games is pathetic. I mean just look at Anya in Gears of War. A game full of grizzled, grungy looking characters and then she just looks like this. There needs to be more variety in the design of women if games are going to be more fun to play.
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>>386527094
>get fucked
pretty sure that is the point anon
I wonder what's the next singleplayer game to get a cash shop
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>>386526439
Stoya (male)
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>>386526492
>>386526557
>>386526559
>Implying spiders aren't sexy already.
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>>386526562
Because giant spiders arent done to death
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I want to fuck that spider.
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>>386528489
MOAR
DAMN IT MOAR
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>>386528489
Spiders are cute. Not for sexual.
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>>386526439
Hell I dont care one way or another. The item box stuff is annoying but I dont buy shit anyway so no worries there.
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>>386526991
maybe because she is the daughter of ungoliant who willingly but not by necessity took the form of a spider, which she could change at any time?
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>>386528497
we don't have many that talk and that we actually team up with
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>>386528489
>spider fetish
an acquired taste I dont wanna acquire
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why have no one posted dark souls spiderfu yet
or that one from moster girl manga
that's how you sexualize spiders
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>>386527879
Hey Jim! I liked your video this monday
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>>386526562
Wrong
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>>386526439
Sexualized spiders thread?
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>>386526991
Neither Ungoliant nor any of her spawn are explicitly stated to be spiders. They're primordial beings entirely removed from creation. Not even the Valar have any fucking idea where they come from.

They're literal space ayyy lmaos that just choose to take the form of giant spiders. There's nothing stopping them from choosing to take the form of an attractive woman.
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>>386527879
I actually agree with gears of war.The men genuinely look like some evolved form of human.They aren't normal, but the women look like regular women.It doesn't really matter, but its odd looking.
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>>386526492
This tbqh. She needs bigger tits.
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>>386526439
I was actually excited about the idea of fighting the spider queen. Not so much anymore.

Then again, shadow of mordor had two of the most disappointing boss fights in recent memory. Christ, sauron was a QTE. Not a finisher, just a qte.

And the stealth fight was just terrible.

And the fact only the orc warlords fought with you and the rest never showed was even more depressing.
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>>386529468
>The true origin of Ungoliant is unknown, and was not even known by the Valar. It is said by some that she came from the Darkness itself that lies about Arda and was once an ally of Melkor when he looked down upon the world with envy. Later, she changed her allegiance from him to herself, desiring only to be a mistress of her own insatiable craving to devour all light, to feed her everlasting emptiness.

>When Melkor was defeated and imprisoned by the Lords of the West after the first Elves awoke in Cuiviénen, Ungoliant escaped the attacks of the Valar and the hunters of Oromë and fled to the southern part of Aman. There, in a ravine south of the mountain Hyamentir, she established her dark abode and took the physical form of a monstrous spider, and sucked up all the light she could find. After every feeding, she spun forth dark nets of gloom that strangled any light from entering her lair of darkness. Yet she hungered for more of it: for although she hated light, she craved its sustenance as well.

Correct! They just choose to be spiders. Maybe it's their fursona.
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>>386529468
Ungoliant maybe, her spawn and Shelob are definitely said to be spiders with none of the form changing that Ungoliant had
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>>386529468
>There's nothing stopping them from choosing to take the form of an attractive woman.
Except, you know, their decision to take on the form of a giant spider to begin with. If they identified as "sexy" women, you'd think they chose that form when they originally entered the material world.
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>>386529774
>said to have no form changing
Give me a source that isn't your ass.
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>>386528836
>>386529468
Every and all mentions to Shelob is about her weaving webs in the mountains and being a goddamn spider.
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>>386526562
Sounds like an improvement.
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>>386530886
Yes, she has taken the form of the spider for the events of the books. The point, and argument here, is that this doesn't always need to be case: she is physically capable of taking the form of a human if there was reason or want.

Would she in canon? Probably not. Could she? Yes.
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>>386530990
Its not only in the events of the book. Shelob is never mentioned to be anytging but a spider. Ungoliant is not Shelob.
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>>386530990
>she is physically capable of taking the form of a human if there was reason or want
Citation needed.
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>>386530990
>she has taken the form of the spider
there's nothing that suggest Shelob could change forms. Ungoliant, sure, but when she herself became a spider she started shitting out spiders by default, not "things that can change into spiders".
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>All these faggots here arguing about this unimportant shit more than the fact that this game has triple DRM
1. Steam
2. Denuvo
3. Always-online internet needed
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>>386531857
Aren't the latter two a joint argument?
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Name one character whose design isn't improved by turning into a hot slut with sweet tits. You can't do it.
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what did they mean by this?
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>>386531101
OK thought exercise: imagine that you were a lovecraftian monster invading a world sung into reality impure and corrupt by the hubris of a false verse.
Now you take corporeal form in this reality that you want to devour and you choose a spider, but not any spider that exists, just a big spooky spider that eats light. You're still a disgusting eldrich monster but you've discovered you have a fursona so you stay that way. Next thing you know you've eaten a bunch of glowing rocks and want to pump out some kids.
Who's the lucky daddy? nobody you're still a ayylmao who dont follow the rules so you shit out a bunch of kids from nothing.

Why would those kids ever be normal spiders? They're still 5th dimensional horrors.Spiders allready existed, Oligant didnt invent the idea of spiders though the idea that all spiders are descendent of ayy lmao's is cool as fuck
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>>386531857
>implying the base game and mythril edition (season pass and dlc) won't get cracked in 2 weeks
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>>386531908
you made me think about a hot chick playing Gollum
do want
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>>386531857
The representation of women in games is a serious issue. It's impacting society into thinking there can't be any strong independent women in games.
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>>386532024
>Why would those kids ever be normal spiders?

But they're not normal spiders. They're giant fuck off spiders with actual intelligence.

Your logic is faulty, since it assumes that the spawn of Ungoliant must either be normal, vanilla spiders that do normal spider things, or they must be shape shifting beings that simply take the form of spiders. But the basis for this assumption is flawed and is simply derived from the fact that they are magic beings, therefore shape shifting must be an ability they possess. But that's not self evident.
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The name's not "Helob," fags.
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>>386526439
he really is searching for a reason to complain about shit cause he needs material for his vids or money ends. Kinda sad.
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>>386526439
lore rape and microtransactions what more can you ask for.
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>>386531948
ORC MODE WHEN?!?!
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>>386532024
The lore states that Ungoliant also ate her own spiders spawn when they reached adulthood, it doesn't make sense for spiders to grow up as spiders if they can change to be whatever. When Ungoliant became a spider (and there's no source that says she could ever undo this) she passed the form down to everything she birthed, Shelob included. There's no passage in the books that says Shelob can change forms at all, tosay nothing of something as drastical as becoming a woman
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>>386532024
Firts, Ungoliant is not an alien. Thinking in those terms in LOTR is useless. We are talking about a universe that sparked from a song and the beings who helped are right there across the ocean.
Now Shelob is only comparable to Ungoliant in form. Their power levels are eons apart. Ungoliant could subdue Melkor. Shelob was beaten by a skinny hobbit trapped in her own lair.
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>>386526439
So let me get this straight.
Shadow of Mordor was already raping LotR lore in every possible way but people are offended only now that because Shelob is "sexualized"?
If they never cared up to this point then they should fuck off because this is just obvious SJW outrage. They don't care about lore at all.
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>>386532242
Im just making the point that its not super far-fetched to believe that the height of her spawn could shape-shift the same way their momma could
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>>386532541
Shadow of Mordor was lore-raping but it was just kinda badly written fanfiction, it still tried to capture the same feeling.
This is off-the-wall-why-even-bother-with-the-lotr-name-if-you-just-make-up-whatever rape
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>>386531890
Not really. For example, if this game didn't have Denuvo, it could still require you to always be online by constantly needing to contact the game's servers over at WB.
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On topic of Ungoliant, since that's the hot debate here, I rechecked something in Silimilemon and have some to add to the debate:

Ungoliant bred with creatures of spider form and had offspring with them. These offspring are regarded differently from those spiders, however. They have powers and myths that differentiate them, such as the light-snaring webs.

Compare:
>For other foul creatures of spider form had dwelt there since the days of the delving of Angband, and she mated with them, and devoured them (Chapter 9)
with
>There spiders of the fell race of Ungoliant abode (Chapter 19)
Also notice their race, while remarked as spiders, are said to be "race of Ungoliant," who - as is already said - innately a shape-shifter who prefers the form of a spider to make light-catching gloom webs.

How much of Ungoliant's powers her spawn inherited, besides their webbing, goes unspoken. Heck, Ungoliant's actual powers without all her cool buffs and power-eating is pretty unknown as well (although the webs and shape-shifting are given from before then).

As far as I'm concerned, her offspring are said to be of her race and already have magic powers. I have nothing against Shelob, the last and greatest of her offspring, being able to use another of Unggy's powers.
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>>386532541
SJWs hate LOTR because lack of diversity.
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>>386528376
Wow she is beautiful. Is there more of her?
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J. R. R. Tolkien always envisioned LOTR like this, who are you guys or his close family who knew him to say otherwise?
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>>386532749
>Is there more of her?
Nope, that's it.
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>>386532497
>Skinny hobbit

Samwise was never skinny. Not even in the books, and hilariously fat in the movies.
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>>386526439
Sexualizing the spider is te least of this game's problems.
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>>386531948
Is he the one that sells the loot boxes?
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>>386532749
Google her and be amazed.
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>>386532615

LotR doesn't always work in a purely logical way.

For example, Glaurung had no wings, yet many of the dragons descended from him do. The argument you are using would seem to imply that none of them should have wings either.
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>le shitty excuse to post spiders and other reddit animals thread
Fuck off
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>>386527879
Anya is the exception along with younger Sam

Older Sam and bernie and shit look atrocious, as well as that one bitch with the side of her head shaved
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>>386532783
I totally forgot it was Sam who gives the blow. I was thinking about Frodo. Which is still humiliating for a creature thats supposed to be a spawn of such powerfull creature as Ungoliant.
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>giant spider becomes full human woman
Disappointed
>single player micro transactions and loot boxes
Disgusted
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>>386528704
Audax?
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>>386526439
Are we even able to say Shelob being a sexy woman is stupid as fuck, or has neo-/v/ gone so far down the rabbit hole as to defend shitty ass ideas from EA?
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>>386532783
He wasn't hilariously fat in the movies either.
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>>386532497
There is a major difference between early "let's be a spider" Ungoliant and "I feasted on the Two Trees of Valinor and then the Wells of Varda" Ungoliant (which caused her to swell to a size and shape so vast and hideous that even Melkor began to grow afraid) and an even greater difference from "I also then devoured the great gems of Formenos" Ungoliant.

The shape-shifter and Unlight producing Ungoliant is her earliest and weakest form, and even then she as such fed on light for untold time before Melkor approached her.

There is nothing stopping Shebabalob from being comparable to early Ungogolo.
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>>386532723
>innately a shape-shifter
That's not a correct term. Ungoliant is a dark entity that "took" the form of a giant spider when she settled down in the material world. She doesn't really shift her appearance after that point.
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>>386526439
All that's missing is the forced love triangle with a Mary Sue elf.
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Gentlemen. Behold the pinnacle of female character design. No I'm not being ironic, I'm dead serious. I dare you to find a better female character in a game than this one

Pro tip: you can't.
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>>386532723
Shelob is not her greatest spawn. It just the last surviving one. It survived because her greatest strenght was her cunning. Not magical powers.
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>>386533185
I will now buy your game.
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>>386533185
true
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>>386526439
>people say what they did to shelob is lore breaking and not ok
>these same people are ok with the black guys that also break lore

This is enough to tell you that they're just feminists and pro forced diversity.
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>>386533185
>bullshit teleporting move

Fuck this bitch. Talon 4 lyfe.
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>>386533185
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I read the books, one thing always bothered me. It obviously has heavy christian influences but it seems unless you are human you are fucked in the grand scheme of things, the end even alludes to the end age of all intelligent creatures other than man and ultimately has a very human focus look at things.

Want an afterlife? Good be born human! An elf? LOL better take a boat ride before you die! Also hobbits will get fucked over easily, if a rag tag group of bandits along with a powerless Saruman can take them over then they're fucked. Even fucking Gandalf just says "good luck" and leaves them to fix the mess.

Probably the biggest kick in the balls is the masses don't even care about Frodo and Sam, only Perry and Merry gain any notability because they fought with the dead king because he had a hobbit fetish.

Also why does all media leave out the most powerful character off all, Tom Bombadil?
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>>386526439
>this time
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>386526439
>sexualize
What is this "sexualize" thing again?
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>>386531948
Can we get this gif without him freaking out as the end.

He looks the perfect happy orc jew merchant.
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Why is there so much shitposting about this game lately? Is it out?
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>>386533247
What black guys? The fucking haradrim?
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>>386531857
Is there a clear source on the Always online? Searching about it is a complete mess.
>b-but they said online is only always needed for the market, not the whole game
>b-but they never said it clearly
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>>386533371
>Why is there so much shitposting
Because you're on 4chan, stupid.
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>>386533295
The dwarves are still around last time I checked. Elves are and always have been massive pussies, not sure what the big deal is. Tom Bombadil was by far the worst character in the entire trilogy, a walking deus ex machina who was utterly irrelevant in the long run.
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>>386533247
>if you're not okay with turning Shelob into a sexy human, you're a SJW
>defending EA
The GG crap has ruined /v/ in ways we couldn't have imagined
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>>386533371
Microtransactions and Denuvo just got announced for the game
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>>386533295
>Want an afterlife? Good be born human! An elf? LOL better take a boat ride before you die!
I think you have the wrong idea here. The human's fate after death is unknown. It's only known that they leave the bounds of the world altogether, but what happens next is a mystery.
Elves souls go to the waiting hall for the dead until they're eventually reincarnated again.
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>>386533295
>Tom Bombadil
Good, I hated that faggot
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>>386533295
>Tom Bombadil
Goldberry would be a good character to have around if you know what I mean
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>>386532749

nah she's too pure for porn
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>>386533484
>microtransactions in a single player game
I couldn't care less.
They're only cancerous in competitive multiplayer, because they give some players advantage over the others.
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>>386533247
>these same people are ok with the black guys that also break lore

Who said this? What black guys? Where?
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>>386533247
>>these same people
how do you know they're the same smart guy?
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>>386533374

A Original the Character black ranger guy from Gondor
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>>386532496
I'm not that dude, and I haven't read the books so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but isn't that just a pretty flawed argument? Is there any passage explicitly stating she CAN'T change her form?

If so then your logic lies in the inverse argument as well, and because the argument seems to be AGAINST her being able to change form then your argument loses as, surprise, she's changed form in a non-canon spin-off. Is that not accurate?
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>>386533158
>nothing stopping
Except just being a big spider with good street smarts.
Seriously though, the whole point is that the Age of Superbeings is in its last legs. Shelob could never compare to the old ones. Even back then, all she does in her life is hid in the mountain, eat and spawn more spiders. The only reason she probably wasnt slain before is because she served a good role for Sauron defenses.
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>>386533448
>defending EA

Nice leap of logic there, idiot.

On the other hand your logic is lacking. The point was that people attack this shelob thing as being lore breaking when it's one of the more lore friendly things in the game. It's a game that takes a bunch of liberties with the lore yet this is the one that is outrageous? This is hypocrticial.
The only logical conclusion is that they don't like the idea of sexy women. Or what other reason could it be then? Mind sharing?
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>>386533164
Her form was still a choice, taken after settling in that ravine, and you can bet she kept it because her webs are exactly perfect for capturing light to eat without being exposed to it.

And Sheb too is "an evil thing in spider-form."

>>386533223
It's close enough.

>There agelong she had dwelt, an evil thing in spider-form, even such as once of old had lived in the Land of the Elves in the West that is now under the Sea, such as Beren fought in the Mountains of Terror in Doriath, and so came to Lúthien upon the green sward amid the hemlocks in the moonlight long ago. How Shelob came there, flying from ruin, no tale tells, for out of the Dark Years few tales have come. But still she was there, who was there before Sauron, and before the first stone of Barad-dûr; and she served none but herself, drinking the blood of Elves and Men, bloated and grown fat with endless brooding on her feasts, weaving webs of shadow; for all living things were her food, and her vomit darkness. Far and wide her lesser broods, bastards of the miserable mates, her own offspring, that she slew, spread from glen to glen, from the Ephel Dúath to the eastern hills, to Dol Guldur and the fastnesses of Mirkwood. But none could rival her, Shelob the Great, last child of Ungoliant to trouble the unhappy world.

And she's got some magic powers:
>in slow years of darkness healed herself from within, rebuilding her clustered eyes, until with hunger like death she spun once more her dreadful snares in the glens of the Mountains of Shadow
She also cannot be pierced by the blades of men - her stabbing is explicitly described as only being possible because she jumped onto the sword with greater force than any man, orc, or beast could ever muster.
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>>386533295
elves have it 100% better than humans except they envy their mortality (both spirit and body) but as higher beings than humans they're more bound to the fabric of the world and gods which is a weakness in many ways

elves don't need boats to get into afterlife, they go back to aman to see the gods and their kin and be happy

sam becomes a mayor, frodo leaves for the unduying lands

tom bombadil is shit
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>Who said this? What black guys? Where?
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>>386533247
>black guys that also break lore
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>>386532760
Needs more tits.
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>>386531948
That Hitler was right.
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>>386533596
>how do you know they're the same smart guy?

Because I've gotten into arguments with them already on various forums.
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>>386533742
Fuck you dad stop ruining muh childhood fantasy
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>>386533663
>its permitted if it aint forbidden
Can you imagine the consequences of taking that logic to every book you read? That logic only applies to state rules.
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>>386533663
>Is there any passage explicitly stating she CAN'T change her form?

There's no passage saying she can't time travel, either. For that matter, there's no passage saying ANY of the characters can't time travel. So why don't they?

The simplest explanation is that they cannot.
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>>386533730
>some literally who tertiary character with no impact on the story

Yeah that's so much worse than changing an established character from the original story
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>>386533668
>The only reason she probably wasnt slain before is because
because nothing could ever hurt her. If Sauron could kill her, he would have rather than suffer massive casualties every time he ran orcs through her tunnels. The orcs themselves talk about it:

>`You may well put your thinking cap on, if you've got one. It's no laughing matter. No one, no one has ever stuck a pin in Shelob before, as you should know well enough. There's no grief in that; but think-there's someone loose hereabouts as is more dangerous than any other damned rebel that ever walked since the bad old times, since the Great Siege. Something has slipped.'

And the event itself:

>The blade scored it with a dreadful gash, but those hideous folds could not be pierced by any strength of men, not though Elf or Dwarf should forge the steel or the hand of Beren or of Túrin wield it.
>[...]Now splaying her legs she drove her huge bulk down on him again. Too soon. For Sam still stood upon his feet, and dropping his own sword, with both hands he held the elven-blade point upwards, fending off that ghastly roof; and so Shelob, with the driving force of her own cruel will, with strength greater than any warrior's hand, thrust herself upon a bitter spike. Deep, deep it pricked, as Sam was crushed slowly to the ground.
>No such anguish had Shelob ever known, or dreamed of knowing, in all her long world of wickedness. Not the doughtiest soldier of old Gondor, nor the most savage Orc entrapped, had ever thus endured her, or set blade to her beloved flesh. A shudder went through her. Heaving up again, wrenching away from the pain, she bent her writhing limbs beneath her and sprang backwards in a convulsive leap.
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>>386533663
>Is there any passage explicitly stating she CAN'T change her form?
It should be self-evident since the whole logic of her being able to change forms is due to a one-time episode regarding her mother when the world was young. In no other occasion did Ungoliant or any of her spawn change forms ever.
Before this game come up with this retarded concept this wasn't even a question at all.
Of course we can't resurrect Tolkien and have him state the truth on the matter but it's pretty clear they took a huge liberty
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>>386533685
>She also cannot be pierced by the blades of men

It was an elf sword.
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Why does LOTR have no more spin off shit? Tolkien built this world and constantly refers to powers greater and older than Sauron but every thing is always about the rings!
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>>386533913
That's not the point, but to requote the book again from just above

> those hideous folds could not be pierced by any strength of men, not though Elf or Dwarf should forge the steel or the hand of Beren or of Túrin wield it.
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>>386533881
>Yeah that's so much worse than changing an established character from the original story

Both break lore, but the black guy is seen as progressive but Shelob as regressive by these people. They're hypocrites.
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>Came into the thread expecting spider-women
>Get lore discussion instead
I am only a little upset.
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>>386533684
>The only logical conclusion is that they don't like the idea of sexy women.
Speaking of leaps in logic...

>one of the more lore-friendly things in the game
This is how I know you're either an idiot or a troll. The lore-breaking shit has been an annoyance with this series from the start. Them taking a character who has been monstrous and suddenly making her some sexy woman is as insulting as if a studio made a Cthulhu game, and portrayed Cthulhu a sexy Brad Pitt looking character.

If people tried to do this before the SJW outrage crap, nobody would have a second thought about calling EA stupid as fuck for doing this. /v/ has turned retarded since
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>too lazy to fully animate a giant spider
>make it a woman so we can re-use shit
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>>386533950
>That's not the point

Yeah, you fucked it up by implying she was immune to swords made by men.
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>>386533685
>"an evil thing in spider-form."
Flowery language that makes clear that she isn't a literal spider but more like a monstrous thing that looks like pme. Still doesn't mean she can change form at will.
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>sequel to shadow of mordor
>still crying over lore rape
Just let it die.
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>>386534016
Right. I should have said she's immune to swords made by men, dwarfs, or elfs, and whether they be wielding by heroic men or elfs, since that's what the books says.
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>>386533964
If you just want spiderfu threads then go to /d/
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>>386533147
Sure he was. For two hobbits that were supposedly starving in Mordor, Samwise just got fatter and fatter from movie to movie.
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>>386534081

What if it was an orc sword wielded by a troll?
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Seriously, who fucking gives a shit.
So Shelob looks like a sexy woman at some point in the game, big whoop.

It's a fan-fiction game about killing and controlling orcs.
Fucking hell they even forged a new ring of power in this game and this is what triggers people?
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>>386534010
>as if a studio made a Cthulhu game, and portrayed Cthulhu a sexy Brad Pitt looking character.
You will never not be mad about Dishonored, will you?
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Why does LOTR have very little redemption stories? Hell the closest thing to one is Melkor but he was faking it
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>>386533860
>>386533872

Yeah that's a reasonable argument, I guess my point is that if there was a different spin off game of a time-traveling doctor who-lookin shelob I wouldn't be too phased by it being that it's a spin off and doesn't directly go against stuff said in the books. I'm not a lorefag with LOTR though, so I understand where it can bother lorefags.

However regarding this particular matter, the fact that her mother could shape-shift, it's not entirely unreasonable to assume shape-shift abilities on her, whereas I guess it's not talked about whether or not the mother could time-travel so it's more relevant, maybe?

>>386533897

I guess this kinda covers my above point but the simple fact is it's more relevant than time-traveling shelob in that it's something that actually happened to her mother. Regardless, I don't disagree it's a huge liberty, and I understand how that can be upsetting to lorefags as said above, however the Shadow of games really are just spin-offs, right? So is it a big deal that it takes liberties? Genuine question, not really rhetorical.
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>>386533885
>Now splaying her legs she drove her huge bulk down on him again
>with both hands he held
>and so Shelob, with the driving force of her own cruel will, with strength greater than any warrior's hand, thrust herself upon a bitter spike. Deep, deep it pricked, as Sam was crushed slowly to the ground.
>No such anguish had Shelob ever known, or dreamed of knowing, in all her long world of wickedness. Not the doughtiest soldier of old Gondor, nor the most savage Orc entrapped, had ever thus endured her
>A shudder went through her. Heaving up again, she bent her writhing limbs beneath her and sprang backwards in a convulsive leap
Sorry Anon
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>>386529468

But nothing saying they should, either. Women use looks because they are weak. Shelob is not weak.
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>>386526439
It never had anything to do with Tolkien anyway so why stop
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>>386534149
Haven't played it, so not familiar with what you're referencing, ignoring the poorly attempted deflection for a second
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>>386534143
Enormous fucking spider, I mean not just a big one, completely inhumanly massive one that dwarfs the fucking mountains around it, is a cooler concept than just a pale goth chick.

>>386534158
Gollum almost redeems himself, but then Sam hurts his feelings.
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>>386534184
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>>386534028
True enough. And as I said in a post long passed, even if she could change forms, I believe she - like Ungogo - would never care to change forms.

But also, it doesn't mean taking a human form or appearing in a human form are completely off the table either.

>>386534131
Jokes on you. It was the hobbit wielder that was her undoing. Pottery.
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It's pretty fucking stupid that Shelob has a human form in the first place.
How sexy she is is irrelevant
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>>386534143
This is /v/. We talk about video games, in between apparently obsessing over what e-celeb tweeted what crap for some reason
You need to go back
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>>386534184
Don't apologize.
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>>386527879
worst girl tee bee ach
>tfw no snarky brown aussie waifu
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>>386533885
I dont have the books on me but i remember it points out Shelob had scars and bruises on her the moment she meets Frodo in the cave. I think the movie even showcase this which was a nice touch. The wound Sam puts on her is obviously the worst she endured though.
And Sauron couldnt care less for losing orcs here and there. They are the most dispensable creature around. In he return he got an impenetrable mountain side.
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>>386533387
Someone posted in one of the past threads a pic of a post from the official forums from an employee where he confirms it currently requires always online.
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>>386534010
>Speaking of leaps in logic...

How is that a leap in logic? You claiming I defend EA when I did nothing of the sort on the other hand ISN'T a leap of logic?

Tell me, if people aren't upset over X, Y and Z for reason K, but upset over H for reason K mind explaining your logic here? They're using LORE as the reason why this change isn't ok yet all these other lore breaking things DIDN'T upset them. What does that tell us? That lore isn't the problem. So what is the problem? How it's presented then? So how is Shelob presented then? As a sexy woman. In this day and age presenting a woman as sexy is generally viewed as negative by feminists and the like.

How in the fuck is this a leap in logic you retarded cunt? If not, by all means explain your reasoning here.
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>>386534268
People would be pissed with a human form in either case. Making it a human sexy form just makes it abundantly obvious that EA is aiming for the lowest common demoniator. Which, you know, is not surprising for the Mordor series, but obviously people are going to get mad over their fantasy nerd lore.

Being mad over Mordor game lore has been a thing since the first game. There was also that short bit where people kept posting this video to piss off people who defended the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU
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>>386534284
>This is /v/. We talk about video games,
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>>386534384
>How is that a leap in logic?
Confirmed idiot. Good to know I don't need to waste my time further.
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>>386534445
In between obsessing over e-celebs and mah politics in games. Didn't say it happens as often as the other pointless shit.
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>>386526439
why did they let these people have the license?

why are they allowed to make everything wrong?
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>>386534158
What are you talking about, Boromir is the flag bearer of redemption. And in Hobbit, so were the dwarves, especially Thorin.
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>>386534508
money
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>>386534451
>Confirmed idiot. Good to know I don't need to waste my time further.

You just gave up because you realized you were wrong, but you're too close-minded to admit it, even to yourself, so you just called a a doo doo head because you can't even fucking back up your own arguments and ideas.

Fucking waste of air, don't fucking waste people's time with your close-mindedness.
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>>386534508
a great mystery
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>>386533351
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>>386534360
Yes but the thing is left ambiguous whether or not he meant it for the market or the whole game. And some say that the same employee backpedaled on Discord and said that the connection is required only for the market.
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>>386534586
Perfect, thanks.
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>>386533918
The Silmarillion is more or less why there isn't more spin-off stuff. Not because it's bad, but because it's possibly one of the most complex fictional mythology books ever written, if not THE most.

Comparing that to The Hobbit or Lord of the Rings is like comparing the entire Bible to only the Gospels.
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>>386534554
not an argument
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>>386534695
>not an argument

Yes, that sums up your posts quite well. Glad we agree.
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>>386534597
Seems like damage control to me. But what does it matter, since we'll all easily find out which it is when the game comes out. Let's just wait and see.
It's not like I have any money in this anyway
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i want to fuck a spider not a woman
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>>386534732
not an argument
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>>386528376
Huh, I always thought she looks and sounds like a goth Lena Headey
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>>386526439
either sex her even more up or turn her back to a spider.
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>>386526562
She doesn't have big tits though - do you live in korea?
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>>386534396
The Mordor games have always been complete shit. If it wasn't for the GG crap, /v/ never would've suddenly taken a turn to defending stupid crap.
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>>386533185
I got a giggle out of how The qualifiers announcers kept occasionally refering to Sorlag as her here and there with a completely straight face. It's an acid spitting rocketfiring crocodile alien but it somehow sounds cute and confusing everytime.

>>386527879
Never finished GOW3 because i hated it. I could see what they were going for, that the human world was desperate and everybody prepared to fight. But it definately looked silly. I actually liked the style of especially the first game for being over the top hyperviolent ape warfare but still being rather bleak and grounded in a way. This was a bit too comicbooky idealised for the series.
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>>386534348
Supposed she had scars around her eyes, according to a wiki, but I can find no trace of this in the book. They do, however, say her eyes are her only soft-spot, and one gets smote by Sam. (She is later mentioned to regenerate them).

To quote the relevant parts:

>Most like a spider she was, but huger than the great hunting beasts, and more terrible than they because of the evil purpose in her remorseless eyes. Those same eyes that he had thought daunted and defeated, there they were lit with a fell light again, clustering in her out-thrust head. Great horns she had, and behind her short stalk-like neck was her huge swollen body, a vast bloated bag, swaying and sagging between her legs; its great bulk was black, blotched with livid marks, but the belly underneath was pale and luminous and gave forth a stench. Her legs were bent, with great knobbed joints high above her back, and hairs that stuck out like steel spines, and at each leg's end there was a claw.

>Sam sprang in, inside the arches of her legs, and with a quick upthrust of his other hand stabbed at the clustered eyes upon her lowered head. One great eye went dark.

>But Shelob was not as dragons are, no softer spot had she save only her eyes. Knobbed and pitted with corruption was her age-old hide, but ever thickened from within with layer on layer of evil growth.

>Slowly he raised his head and saw her, only a few paces away, eyeing him, her beak drabbling a spittle of venom, and a green ooze trickling from below her wounded eye.

And lastly

>Shelob was gone; and whether she lay long in her lair, nursing her malice and her misery, and in slow years of darkness healed herself from within, rebuilding her clustered eyes, until with hunger like death she spun once more her dreadful snares in the glens of the Mountains of Shadow, this tale does not tell.

The word "scar" does not appear in any of her chapters.

On a side-note, she also predates Sauron.
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>>386534216
It's not exactly a poor attempt at deflection when I underline that the example you mention is an actual thing in an actual game.

Calm your tits.
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>>386534239
That Gollum part in the books was really sad, I honestly liked the movies better up until they enter Mordor in the books.
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>>386534010
>The lore-breaking shit has been an annoyance with this series from the start.
neo-/v/ likes to pretend that Shadow of Mordor wasn't shit now and defend EA's honor, just because of the SJW backlash.
shit's retarded
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>>386526439
It's not that people are triggered by sexualizing a spider.
It's more about how stupid it is.
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>>386534847
>suddenly taken a turn to defending stupid crap.

Defending it? It's just not worth getting upset about. Getting upset about this out of all the shit the games have done is downright retarded.
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>>386533819
I should've left you as a cum stain.
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>>386535001
first time on /v/? I know there was a mass reddit migration over the last year
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>>386534143
>>386534143
I fucking care
Middle earth mythology was awesome and there literally no reason to turn her into chick
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>>386534960
>neo-/v/

I don't know if you were here at the time of the game's release, but SoM was always considered "an okay game" by /v/, with everyone wanking over "the Nemesis system" especially.

For a long-ass time, people would talk about how great [game] would be if it had "X combat but with SoM's Nemesis system!"
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>>386535127
>there literally no reason to turn her into chick
There is one reason. My dick.
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>>386535182
>I'm going to go ahead and speak for the mindset of literally thousands of people, and expect to be taken seriously

You're an idiot.
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>>386534131
What if it was a hobbit butterknife wielded by an eagle
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>>386535312
No, not thousands. The general consensus of the 40 or so people in those threads at the time when I was considering buying the game myself.

I didn't buy it.

On a side-note, notice how the poster I'm replied to (you?) is doing exactly same thing, but that somehow doesn't bother you and isn't something you notice. I'd say that makes you a complete dingus.

You're a dingus.
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>>386535452
>No, not thousands

Yes, thousands. When you say
>SoM was always considered "an okay game" by /v/
>by /v/
you are speaking for the thousands of people that visit and post on this site every day. And you still expect to be taken seriously.

Stop.
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>>386527879
When you know he is not even baiting.
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>>386535182
>but SoM was always considered "an okay game" by /v/
the game was constantly mocked here, with only a few die-hards (and possibly some shills) insisting it was an "okay" game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU
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>>386534662
Is that fucking Sans?
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>>386533730

They'll prolly market him as a southron
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>>386535552
And you think
>neo-/v/ likes to pretend that Shadow of Mordor wasn't shit now
means all the thousands of people that visit and post on this site do the aforementioned? Or is it being spoken in the same obvious context that I did - the people the play and talk about it have X opinion?

You're such a dingus.
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>>386534886
I wish i had the books on me so we could debate on equal terms. Im certain about damage on her because i remember seeing the movie on the first time and getting pleased they care doing those details. Shelob was not unscratched.
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I don't mind it. Shelob was literally the child of a primordial creature that existed before everything. Her parent could be any shape she wanted, because in a sense she had no true shape for she was the darkness itself.

It's really not far-fetched to imagine Shelob has this ability too. Is it mentioned in the books or anything? No. Is it stupid? That's up to you.

I'm fine with it. I think it's an interesting idea in a completely non-canon game..
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>>386535636

>very clearly says it's x-x-x man
>WHOA IS THAT SANS? WHAT THE FUCK10-
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>>386535670
He's not even the one who used the "neo-/v/' name that seems to be triggering you so hard. I wrote that post, and he responded to your reply.

And this is me:
>>386535580

You're an idiot
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>>386535689
Maybe you're mistaking
> its great bulk was black, blotched with livid marks
with damage instead of the later detailed
>Knobbed and pitted with corruption was her age-old hide, but ever thickened from within with layer on layer of evil growth.
?

Give me a few and I'll compile a pic of the chapters for you to scan through.
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>>386535670
>And you think

You have no idea what I think.

Get your head out of your ass and stop thinking that everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.
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>tolkien intentionally leaves gaps because he wants people to expand on what he started
>they do
>people get mad

stay frosty cowboys.
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>>386535794
He thinks you wrote the post he replied to.
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>>386534143
>Fucking hell they even forged a new ring of power in this game and this is what triggers people?

I'm actually glad they're finally going and embracing fan fiction approach completely. It's very hard to make anything in the franchise that's new and doesn't come off as derivative of already existing works while still being familiar. War in the North just kinda exists as a story because of this, for example.
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>>386535794
You don't complain about their apparent over-generalization of /v/. Thus, you think.
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>>386535767
Dont bother, ill be off to college soon.
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>>386535857

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume I'm talking with an adult. But that's really hard when you do this "He started it" shit.

Correct your behavior if you don't want to look like a child.
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>>386535849
I played that game and was like "That's it? That's the end?"
It was so short.
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>>386535818
I don't think Tolkien left gaps as much as he wanted to tell one story in a massive world he built. Tolkien's love was clearly world building and not storytelling, LotR is simply the story he chose to go with because it's a big age-ending story that changed Middle-earth forever.
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>>386526439
>sexualizing shelob

Dick to diamo-

>they sexualized a shitty human-version of Shelob that has no relation to Shelob except they call her Shelob

Goddamnit.
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>>386526439
Goddammit, it is Stoya.
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>>386533171
Yeah, about that...
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>lotr with porn stars
you can't make this shit up
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>>386526439
Wait wait wait

THATS SHELOB!?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously though, what the fuck is with gaming where they turn a giant fucking spider into fucking Morrigan sexy lady?
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>Shelob can shapeshift into Stoya
>her magical powers also involve generating dresses
What a very usefull power when you live in a mountain with no human near.
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>>386533171
I was genuinely amazed they dodged the romance in Shadow of Mordor with that warrior princess.
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>>386535861
It's here anyways. In case you're still around or if anyone else knows where her scars are mentioned.
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>>386526439
According to this fat fuck they went to far
All women need to be ugly and fat as his wife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWYOuVoDbXk&t=1s


But also according to this cuck, if a game has one bug it deserves a 1/10
Unless its a Bethesda game, then its a 10/10 since Bethesda cant do no wrong
Im not even joking here, this fat waste of air just made a video excusing his 1/10 score for single bug... if you can even call it that, as he just played so fucking bad he put himself into an unwinnable position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpv2acIgzYE
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>>386536275
might have something to do story in that game was half-baked as it is.
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>>386536275

Talions wife died like 3 days ago, man.

It would have been in pretty bad taste.
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>>386536314
What is the obsession with this guy on this board? Is he just a useful idiot?
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>>386536418

>What is the obsession with e-celebs on this board?

I don't know but it's really fucking annoying.
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>>386536418
He's an e-celeb, therefore nu-/v/ cares desperately about what they have to say
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>dialing the EPIC up to 11
yes pls

I like the first game and I'm really excited for this one.
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>>386536537
They just need to make the Nemesis system even better. It was strange they locked branding away from you until half the game was over or so.
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>>386536418
>a popular journalists whose score get counted into metacritic score
>who worked for both Destructoid and the Escapist
>a perfect example how corrupt and incompetent gaming media is
dont, know, you tell me why people here hate him
also i find it really hilarious that he is a literal honest to god cuckhold, fat, closet homosexual. sjw with a cheating wife
something poetic about him being everything people make fun of
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>>386536650
can't tell if this is well-done parody or actually nu-/v/
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>>386536314
Why is the model for the main character (I forget his name because who gives a shit) so much worse in this than the first game? His face looks fucking retarded, his mouth is literally like 8 inches below his retarsded looking nose.
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>>386536838
Same engine, its getting old
modern renderers rely on pbr too much, and with no shadows they deform and misrepresent forms, especially faces
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>>386531857
>You can't discuss that issue because THIS is also an issue
>Talk about MY issue please
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>>386531948
Looks like one escaped the camps
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Turning Shelob into yet another generic evil seductress is just incredibly fucking boring, regardless if it fits the canon or not. They clearly just wanted a sexy enchantress type character somewhere in the game and took the shortest path to achieve that. It reminds me of that awful CGI Beowulf movie with Angelina Jolie as Grendel's mother.
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>>386526562
>>386526562
>>386526562
>>386526562
This. If she was her own character it'd be fine, but they turned an established character from an intelligent spider to a generic bimbo. It's a downgrade.
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This is the same group that is doing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi7jt-RvbBM

This game is a joke
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>>386526439
>Everyone upset at either sexualized spider or at the SJWs complaining about it
>No one upset about LotR getting shat on for the sake of another mediocre video game
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>>386537513
Everyone already got that out of their system with the first game. Anyone interested in the sequel already knows the lore is retarded fanfiction.
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>Frodo, have I ever told you about my friend Talion?
>He was a ranger of Gondor who was killed in a dark ritual in order to summon the ghost of an ancient elven smith but the ghost possessed Talion's body and together they started recruiting orcs for their own army so that they could conquer Mordor and challenge Sauron himself.
>He was a good friend.
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>>386537794
Iknow this meme started in mgs5 threads but never played it, did someone really tells snake story like this?
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>>386537883
>Iknow this meme started in mgs5 threads

Not even close.
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>>386535208
That's not a big enough reason
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>>386537983
That isn't what you said last night.
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>>386537462
>intelligent spider

Nigga Shelob is straight up nightmare-tier.

Shelob is one of the last or THE last, I forget, daughters of Ungoliant. Also one of the greatest. This means straight off she's several ages old and has been around straight since the First fucking Age. Sauron KNEW she was sitting in his mountains eating his orcs and he purposfully did fuck-all about it because he was fairly confident she was not worth the casualties it would take to force her out (not even kill, just force her to go away) and he was in absolutely no shape to fight her himself. He eventually just made her a garbage-disposal ala-Dwarf-Fort style and had a mighty chuckle whenever prisoners, infiltrators or idiot orcs tried to cut through her territory.

And keep in mind her mom, Ungoliant, is literally the scariest fucking thing in LOTR lore. Ungoliant is a goddamn cosmic nightmare spider who teamed up with Sauron's big-boss while he was screwing up heaven and NOBODY KNOWS WHERE SHE CAME FROM. To clarify that, in the lore, God and his choirboys sang the universe and everything in it into creation. Except her. Because God and his choirboys have no fucking idea where she came from and had no hand in making her.
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Can't wait for SFM.
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>>386538178
They're just gonna be reenactments of Stoya scenes, aren't they?
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>>386531857
Surely every game with Denuvo uses these 3 already?
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>>386527879
Was just thinking about this yesterday. Gears of War kind of had this tongue in cheek macho vibe, like wrestling or something.

Gears 3 was utter trash, they brought in a writer of one of the books who was also female so that's why we got these kinds of females.

I knew the story was going to be shit when act 2 was just act 1 from a different perspective.
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>>386527879

If the girl literally doesnt look exactly like that /v/ complains about sjw pandering. god forbid there is a girl who is a game that is not fuckable
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>>386533171
Yeah Evangeline lily is extremely hot which is why there was little backlash for it
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>>386538140
Ungoliant was also fucking huge if I remember correctly, like Balrogs were not even bigger then a segment of her leg.
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>>386537513
>No one upset about LotR getting shat on for the sake of another mediocre video game
No that's actually all anyone cares about. The "SJW complaining" is just a narrative from trolls muddying the water trying to make it look like it's about anything else to make you feel conflicted about this choice when it's really just terrible.
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>>386531857
(you)
now piss off
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>>386533171
Oh boy you in for surprise, they made it even worse
Talion wife thinks that he's dead and now dating his best black friend
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>>386538140
Stop with your retarded fanfic
Shes just a spider
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>>386538434
She's classified as 'primordial entity', so really she's as big or as small as she damn well pleases. There were times when she and Melkor were face-to-fangs and other times when she was blotting out the goddamn sky.

Though in fairness as well, she spent barely any time in middle earth if memory serves making her size a moot point, since she was a cosmic void spider of hell who preferred to live in the empty spaces between the fucking stars.
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>>386538506
That would be hilarious if she wasn't dead herself.
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>>386538140
Keeping all this in mind just further cements how much of a hardcore fucking badass Samwise Gamgee is.
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>>386538140
Fuck off, shelob was awesome but your post is jsut fanfic
And Ungoliant was retconed into lesser spirit who became too powerful, no more eldrich horror
And Sauron prefering to see Shelob as a pet cat, no control whatsover but still a pet. Shelob never cared
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>>386538434
This was after Ungoliant and Morgoth got to the Two Trees of Valinor. Ungoliant grew significantly in power.
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>>386538550
As weird as it is, it's all true. Check it out.
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Even if you love being pandered to with boring bimbo character designs, the game is still a disaster because of the fucking loot crates. Do not support WB's jewry.

>inb4 B-B-B-B-BUT THEY'RE OPTIONAL!

Stop defending giant corporations who only want to milk your wallet.

At the very least you should wait until the game is bundled together as a "GOTY edition" and is on sale for like $10. Don't pay $60 for a blatantly incomplete experience that is designed to nickel and dime you.
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>>386526439
I blame Dark Souls for this shit. Sure, horrifying spiders with whyboner chicks attached to them existed before it, but Quelaag turned it into the fucking meme.
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>>386534384
Gondor bordered Harad on the south and used to have territories there. It's not inconceivable at all that some men of Haradrim descent might have lived within Gondor's borders. Especially if some fled the shadow of the Dark Lord. This is a completely different situation from Shelob exhibiting shapeshifting powers she was never hinted at possessing. You're trying to equivocate the two and saying people are only making a distinction for political reasons, but really it's you who is politically motivated, unless you honestly think human migration is more lore-breaking than spidertits.
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>>386526492
This, make her a spider with giant tits.
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what if Black Widow was just a giant spider in the new Avengers
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>>386538745
Nigger, Dark elves have been around since the 70s.
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>>386526439
Pic related is VA can kinda see the resemblance
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>>386536729
The person you're responding to could have literally posted anything at all as long as he was quoting >>386536650 and you would have kneejerk nu-/v/ lawl trolled him, wouldn't you have? Fucker could have listed a recipe for cabbage rolls and you would've been like, "FUCKING nu-/V/ beta bullshit entrees can't tell if Irish potato nigger or just trolling."
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>>386538656
Tends to happen when you drink and eat two entire cosmic trees, of which the last fruits become the SUN and MOON.

I mean Melkor was genuinely terrified of her at that point, and for damn good reason.
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>>386538920
Jesus, lotr lore is fucking shit
thank god my interest stops at the books and movies
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>>386538859
>dark elves

Driders have been a thing for a long, long while. They were a pretty niche part of fantasy for a while, but when D&D really fleshed out the Drow and their Spiderfetish, Driders got more attention as a byproduct. Then Drizz't happened and everything Drow related got even more fleshed out/ruined as a result, depending. But yeah, been a thing for decades.

Should've just given her the Kaa treatment and put a whyboner voice to a terrifying-but-sexy creature. Mash Cortana's voice into a Xenomorph Queen type deal.
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>>386538998
>fucking shit
that's not how you write "fantastical as fuck"

I'll take that any day over shit we got nowadays
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>>386538361

Damn. It truly is summer in here.
Where do you usually post, Twitter?
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Would Jim have published that video if Shelob took the form of an ugly black woman instead?
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>>386533336
Like most of 4chan, a word with an actual definition is originally used in context in a way that makes sense. Like, "wow, they turned a horrifying spider monster into an attractive woman with huge tits in Dark Souls. Way to sexualize some creepy shit, guys." Then, like 4chan, fuckers with the attention span of goldfish lack onto one fucking word (in this case being "sexualize" because it has sex in it hur hur) and repeat it as a single word response as though they were literal retards. Like, the kind with eyes so wide apart they're nearly on the sides of their heads retards.

"HUR HUR NOT FOR SEXUAL YOU GUIS."

Fuck this place. I used to laugh at the concept of being triggered until the shut ins here made unintentionally triggering me an artform.

>*blocks ur path*
>now that the dust has settled
>it's okay when Japan/Nintendo/Bethesda does it
>this is western/Japanase woman/man/knight/dragon/elf/archaeopteryx/etc.

Fuck.
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>>386539187
>Reddit spacing
Unironically kys
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>>386527879
Men look the way they are because they are pumped with steroids and nutrients

Anya should be at a baby farm doing her part but her mother forged her papers to say she was barren so they let her shoot things instead
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>>386538998
It's actually pretty fun if you can get into it. Since a vast majority of the lore is just a gorillion short-stories, scribblings and half-done ideas that were all collected and shoved haphazardly into a single book, it gets a bit wonky, but as a lore/creation story it's pretty generic and familiar.

>God creates a bunch of angels to help him create everything
>One angel is born butthurt and injects a bunch of not great stuff like evil and violence and whathaveyou into creation
>God is a bit annoyed and fucks off forever
>Demon spider from the void shows up, butthurt angel makes alliance
>All the shit goes down, reality is fucked royally up the ass resulting in the most imperfect material-plane/earth/planet you can imagine as Spider/Angel go on a rampage ruining everything
>Butthurt Angel Satan gets ganged up on by everyone and is imprisoned
>Cost is huge and lots of people lose their divinity and immortality and magic and all kinds of good shit
>Minion of Butthurt Angel Satan tries to bust his master out of cosmic space-prison
>Tricks all people on Middle Earth and gives them awesome gifts/rings that also mind-control them
>Gets his shit slapped
>Takes a thousand or two years to get his game face back on and try again
>Gets his shit slapped again by fucking Hobbits
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>>386539281
It's called paragraphing.
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>>386539281
uninstall 4chan
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>>386538858
more interesting character than current mcu black widow t b h
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>>386538641
RETCONED BY FUCKING WHO. TOLKIEN IS DEAD DIPSHIT
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>>386538641
>retconned

Post-Tolkien lore changes mean literally fucking nothing.
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>>386538361

Shit female designs are shit female designs. Anya literally doesn't belong in Gears of War with all these gorilla sized dudes, and human Shelob is a travesty.

To directly address your comment, when Bioware and Marvel go out of their way to make characters ugly for political reasons, then itnis indeed SJW pandering bullshit.

Nice narrative though, that /v/, an entire board, goes for the throat when a female character isn't an obviously sexual woman. This thread itself is proof that you are wrong.
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>>386539659
>give us a 7/10 woman
>we wanted a 10/10 spider

One fucking job, devs.
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>>386539712
Can't argue with that.
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>>386539187

Where do subscribe to your blog?
I love entirely unrelated tirades.
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>>386538608
More like lucky motherfucker. Not discounting how hardcore he was, I mean he was a Ring Bearer for a little while even and had undying loyalty, but he pulled that win with Shelob straight out of his ass. It was the equivalent of a world-champion playing against a literal noob who has never even touched the game, going for an easy win while thinking about whether the stove was left on or what they should wear tomorrow, then the noob trips on their own feet and and delivers a massive critical hit straight to the single hidden weak-point of the champ.

I don't speak spider but I'm betting anything Shelob's last words were basically DSP rants of "WOOOOOOOOOW I DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT FIGHT I WAS BLOCKING AND HE STILL HIT ME"
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>>386539635
>>386539584
Tolkied rewrote silmarion stories many times, you fucking retards
Why niwakas like you even dare to talk about his works
Now I'm actually triggered
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>>386528376
I knew Shelob looked familiar.
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>>386538863
This scene is made even better once you know that the actors are brother and sister.
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So, who would win in the 1v1 fight Boromir or Talion without superpowers?
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>>386540310
No they're not
McAvoy and McIntosh are not the same names
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>>386540582
Boromir took 3 arrows before he went down.
Talion got bonked on the head.

I just want Boromir back.
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>>386540793
>Boromir took 3 arrows
He slayed 50+ orcs while other members of fellowship did nothing in the book
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