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Was Heavensward the Wrath of the Lich King of FFXIV? Discuss

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Was Heavensward the Wrath of the Lich King of FFXIV? Discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xL0EIA6mg
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Futa on female is gross.

Futa on male Lala is best.
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Enough of this.
/xivg/ has migrated over and this is the third consecutive thread in a row.
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what character do you play and what type of music do you listen to while you raid/grind?
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Heavensward is Cutscenes: The Game
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Falling back right into the system of
Falling back on all that’s erased
When fighting back right out of this system
Means falling back right into this space

Yes, falling back right in with the system
Who’ll see you falling back to the end
When falling back is better than simply
Falling back into pieces again
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>>386509179

WAR, normally I just listen to the ingame music.
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>>386509143
No it hasn't.
Thats why these threads are here. Because the /xivg/ has become such an ERP and drama circle jerk that people who actually want to discuss the game there, can't.
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WHERE ARE THE FUCKING PATCH NOTES YOSHIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>386508957
Unnecessary and the beginning of the end for the game?
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>Been almost 2 months since SB has been out
>No Kugane housing yet

Jesus Fuck they just don't have shit ready, this isn't even about people 'catching up' anymore.
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>>386508957
Is Stormblood the Dark Souls of FFXIV?
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>>386509283
to bad we don't really we just post shit memes, sing songs, and complain about things no one else cares about
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>over 4mil mgp
>nothing new to spend it on

hope they add a mount or something this patch
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>Got an o3s pug clear last week
>Have to fucking do it again tomorrow

Just let my pants drop so I never have to do this again please.
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>>386509207
The story invests me more in coming back to the game than anything else.
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>>386509179

WHM. Typically any standup comedy or audiobooks I feel like putting on.
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>>386509360
It was confirmed several weeks ago that it's coming in 4.1.
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>>386509417
No Savage Second Coil and Savage Alexander Gordias was the Dark Souls of FFXIV
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Zurvan vs Ravana vs Susano
Who would win in a fight?
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>>386509360
RESPECT THE CONTENT
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>>386509283
And what nice game discussions we're having now, right? Hold on let me post a picture of my character for validation
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>>386509546
Susano obviously, he's level 70.
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>>386509179
Tank/NIN, whatever playlist I have up on shuffle if the music in game is something I'm eh about. usually stuff like EX Dungeon music. Unless we'll be getting The Vault (Hard) then I'll listen to in game. Also listen to stuff like Half in the Bag or other podcasts/podcast like stuff.

>>386509449
What about the weapon upgrade goy!

>>386509546
Ravana.
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/501872169.htm

Kinda wish we could talk with them
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>>386509546
Zurvan, because he was summoned out of desperation and therefore more powerful by primal summoning rules.
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This is your bard for the dungeon
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>>386509517

>4.1

God damn. Does it take that long to collect the scrap metal for their servers?
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>>386509261
>cruise chaser

I think you mean
Forward and back and then Forward and back and then Forward and back and then
one foot forward Forward and back and then Forward and back and then Forward and back and then one foot forward
TRANCENDENTAL
EXPONENTIAL
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>>386509598

I'm hoping to either get the weapon upgrade or pants in the next 4-6 weeks so I can just buy the other one, since I'm pugging it's a crapshoot though.
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>>386509574
t. bland midlander mad no one gives his toon any (you)s
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Okay so let me get this straight
Ifrit controls fire
Titan controls earth
Garuda controls wind
Levithan controls water
Ramuh controls lightning
Odin just has crazy powers
Good King Moogle Mog has magic
Shiva controls ice
Ravana is a sword elemental
Bismark controls clouds
Alexander controls time
Susano....controls water?
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>>386509790
>toon
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Friendly reminder that you have one week to find a monkey and/or terrorist friend and enjoy discounted fantasias with him for 60 days.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/1f2ad5890189204af477cac3c3afd675a7084f31
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>>386509829
Susano controls storms I'd assume
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>>386509732
Will there ever be a dungeon that can beat Alexander for greatness?
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>>386509829
Susano controls storms and dancing
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Why the fuck is this maintenance 8 hours anyway?
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>>386509829
Ravana is Earth and Fire
Bismarck is Water and Wind
Susano is Lightning, Water, and Earth
Lakshmi is Fire, Wind, and Water
Sephirot is Water and Earth
Sophia is Lightning and Wind
Zurvan is Fire and Ice
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>>386509856
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>>386509612
Are they having fun?
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>>386509829

>Water
>Ice
>Clouds

Nigga this is the same thing
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>>386509179
Mainly WHM/WAR, along with a MNK and miner so I have something to do during the queues for when I feel like cycling through rotations and being slightly bored. I generally listen to longer game/movie reviews and occasionally podcasts while playing, generally anything with a lot of talking that I can halfass pay attention to without losing much.
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>>386509829
You're missing Bahamut, Phoenix, Sephirot, Sophia, Zurvan, Lakshmi, and Shinryu though.

Simply enough, primals can't just be consolidated into one type of aether or aspect.
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>>386509829
Susano is more about "tempest" than just water.
Like, both Water and lightning.
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STORM OF BLOOD
BORN FROM BLOOD
OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS
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>>386510050
and wind
and stone
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>>386509945
takes a long time to remove SMN from the game
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>>386509829
Ravana is fire and earth, Bismarck is water and wind, susan is water lightning earth
HW Primals control 2 elements
SB will do 3 sans Shinryu who's the exception, like Thordan was and Ultima, since they're the story/MSQ big bad boss primals at the climax/end of the vanilla expac.
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>>386509829
Susano is the primal of fortune. That's why he encourages you all throughout the fight. His powers happen to be water and lightning because he was summoned by a tribe that specializes in that.
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>>386509546
I would say that Ravana has an edge because Directional Parry seems like the type of thing that would fuck both Susano and Zurvan, but the Warrior of Darkness blew through that shit like it was nothing so i dunno lol
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>>386509829
Susano is earth and water
Sophia is lightning and wind
Sephirot is earth and wind
Zurvan is fire and ice

They're not all tied to a single element.
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>>386510041
some of them can. Sephirot is Trees, Sophia is Wind and Lightning, and Zurvan is Fire and Ice
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So anybody else suffering from severe packet loss? I just came back for SB but last 2 weeks have just been a shit show, is this something unique to congested servers? I'm in Gilgamesh, I'll fucking leave to one of those new servers if iI have to.
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>>386509829
There's a bunch of different summons with similar elemental powers. Susano is a hybrid water/lightning, and Bismarck is a hybrid wind/water summon in XIV.

>lightning
Ramuh, Ixion, Quezacoatl
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>>386510114
Susano is celebration, not fortune. He's Lord of the Revel.
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>>386508957
There must always be a Nidhogg
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>>386509179
Fem Miqo'te BLM

I just listen to in game music...
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>>386508957
You mean the peak of the series before it went downhill?
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>the one person I was playing with and started that game for ditched me
I don't know if there's any point anymore.
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YOU ARE NOW HEARING THE STORMBLOOD THEME AUTOMATICALLY
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>>386509179
Female Au Ra Raen AST in slut glam
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>>386510143
>This mother fucker was summoned by a bunch of tree people and has the power to create trees and plants at will
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>>386510339
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So, what are going to be the Stormblood beast tribes?
Just the turtles and snakes?
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>>386510495
There are Qiqirns, the elephant people in Azim Steppe, and Ala Mhigans
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It was bound to happen, I suppose.

I'm feeling nostalgic about Alexander and find myself missing it's soundtrack compared to Omega.
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>>386510495
catfish
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>>386509179
WAR and Samurai, sometimes Astro
Usually chillhop and R&B music
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>>386510440
pics
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>>386510484
;_;
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>>386510539
There is also a small village of catfish people, but there was no quests there
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>>386510495
And maybe the jewish fish midgets.
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>>386509829
dont forget Lakshmi and her control of the dance.
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>>386509829
>Ravana is a sword elemental
>but Odin isn't
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>>386509179
BLM/BRD/SAM
Omnicrafter/gatherer

I keep the game music in dungeons
When grinding I listen to celtic-style weeb music, songs from rhythm games and Initial D shit. Don't fucking ask. The grind's doing unhealthy things to my brain and if I had to listen to another orchestra/metal song I'd kms.
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>>386510495
Turtle men, snake women, au ra tribe
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So, I finish the Ixal quests and the fuckers didn't really fly.
Is there more of them? If not, are there plans to expand the quests?
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>>386510613
There were a shitload of sidequests there. You just need to trigger them with another sidequest.
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>>386510613
There is a shitton of quests in that village, you probably forgot to unlock it.
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>>386510629
>both SB primals are about dancing
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>>386509546
ravana because he has the best theme
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>>386509612
Goddamn for the site that started the imageboard there's a huge lack of images they use
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>>386509179
femxaela DRK
metal
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WoW is a shit game and any time it gets mentioned next to XIV I want anyone who has ever played WoW to die IRL
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>>386510564

I actually agree with this, even though I didn't like Alexander all that much. Omega's soundtrack is competent but it's all just remixed FFV tracks. Soken is at his best when he's free to do whatever the fuck he wants.
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>>386510637
I thought Odin wasn't really a primal anyway?
Zantetsuken was.
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>>386510495
Namazu
Kojin
Lupin
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>>386510689
Have only finished Kobold and Sahagins, but there is an allied beast tribe category which can only be done once you do the others tribes. Maybe it expands upon them there.
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>>386510484
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>>386510586
I'm thinking of getting Ao Dai with maybe Thavnairian tights next
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>>386510787
Neo Exdeath's theme is better than anything in Omega
>he doesn't do savage
oh...
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>>386510495
God I hope it's the jew fishes.
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>>386509878
>blackbosom set and weapons will probably be delayed because of this
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>>386510339
Happened to me but I found new people~
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>>386510871
downy face
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>>386510871
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>tfw someone says your character is pretty
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>>386510923
It's not though
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Pls don't do this.
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>>386510908
Teach me, senpai. I still haven't finished ARR and don't know if I should bother resubbing. Though I wanna do the new event.
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>>386510880

The Omega tracks are okay, it's just that I've heard them all before already.
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>>386510979
Haha downy face downy face!
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>>386510871
ugly
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>>386510871
please be Ultros
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>>386510871
>its the same guy from the other treads posting his generic as fuck healer
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I kinda feel like FFXIV is a better single player RPG with occasional co-op than it is as an MMORPG. Anyone else feel the same? I recently beat the MSQ, and I don't feel any of the drive to do endgame activities like I have with other MMOs.
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>>386509546
Zurvan is on a different level power wise from the other two, he's an eikon and was a god for a whole race that fought the allagans
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>>386511023
Get into a good FC
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NPC dating system when, Yoshi mentioned something like it during that Korean live letter.
I want to go on a nice date to the Gold Saucer with Lyse
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>>386511014
What his in-game character race?
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I'm not saying post your character, but...
post your character
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>/xivg/ o'clock
what were all of you niggers expecting?
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[CHOIR CHANTING INTENSIFIES]
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>>386510871

>Shisui with fox ears

Fucking Hell I am so, SO fucking tired of seeing this fucking shit God fucking damn.
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>>386511023
Get a good FC
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Did any of you lads win the screenshot contest?
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>>386511028
>>386510979
>>386510923
>>386510871
>>>/vg/
fuck off faggot
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Anyone play on Sargatanas?
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>>386511091
All primals are eikons. Eikon is a general term for crazy supernatural beings, and primals are a specific type of eikon. Like fingers and thumbs.
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>>386509179
DRK
mostly VGM stuff like dark souls and berserk.
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>>386511091
Yeah, but is he wild, and pure and forever free?
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>>386511082
How do you know that? Shisui lizards all look exactly the same :^)
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>>386511082
can't wait to wear my DYED shisui
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So I'm asking again since the previous thread was archived, is FFXIV worth it overall, not too much grind, stuff to do other than raids at max level...?

As I said before, my only experience in MMOs is WoW since end of BC
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>>386510938
>stop somewhere to do something
>someone running stops just in front of you
>stays there long enough to make it uncomfortable
I know what your doing, i can see you looking.
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>>386510871
My dicks just so easily pleased
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>>386511091
I thought Eikon is just the Allagan/Garlean word for primal, though
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>>386511118
let's not
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>>386511118
rate
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>>386511254
For Garleans it is. For Allagans it's >>386511176
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>SE bends the knee to Brazil
Finally they recognize us for being the most skilled players.
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>>386511118
FUCK
OFF
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>>386511090
I just reached SB and honestly feel the same. Don't really care all too much about crafting/gather or hardcore raiding, so I guess I'll just catch up with the MSQs then unsub.
What games are you thinking of playing after XIV?
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>>386509505
legit question: do you fee like you can actually absorb what you're hearing while listening to audiobooks when grinding? I've always wanted to try
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>>386511240
the only real grind is getting to end game with the shitloads of quests, after that it takes about a week and a half to catch up to everyone. Usually there a lot of stuff to do, but at the moment there isn't too much seeing as the expansion just came out, but that's just for people already playing, there'll be a ton of stuff to do if you're going in brand new.
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>>386510339
>the one person I was playing with and started that game for turned all of my friends against me and told me to kill myself
haha video games

Fuck you, you know who you are
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>>386511118
fuck no, stop ruining this thread the last one die for this shit
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>>386511118
>tfw nobody wants Tankbot 3000 to join their party
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>>386510871
Cute!
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>>386510339
Every time.
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>>386511314
>bend the knee
all I know is Dany better be bending both knees to Jon soon because they're dancing around the sexual tension and I have HAD IT
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>>386511242
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WHERE ARE THEF UCKING PATCH NOTES
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kamen rider event when
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>>386511105
>I want to go on a nice date to the Gold Saucer with Lyse
Yoshida promised exactly that (except the specific slut) during the korean live letter.
We will probably get it after squadron in dungeons (NPC allies? Retainer 2.0? It's a mystery), primal summoning on open world, and whatever the fuck he was planning to do with custom deliveries.
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>>386511176
no eikons are not primals they are different
Eikons do not require prayers or crystals, they exist on their own (Odin) while Primals require crystals and the belief of followers to manifest (bahamut)
Re-read the shotaWoL's dialogue during the warring triad quests.
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>>386511240
There's really not much to do after you reach end-game aside from grinding other jobs and raiding, I guess. Also, it's about 300 hours worth of story before you even get there.
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>>386511314
How do BRs even play the game with the servers being located in commiefornia?
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>>386511217
I just want to see if dyed black Shisui pants look good with black ao dai desu, currently using the black bikini bottom but it's just a bit too risque
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>>386509179
WAR/BLM, I mostly listen to podcasts/youtubers talking in the background, or talking to a friend, I just like the sound of other people talking.
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>maintenance time
>/v/ suddenly turns into /vg/
nani
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>>386511473
Just wear nothing
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>>386511461
Unukalhai very specifically calls the Warring Triad Eikons. And then it turns out each of them are kept in their own Binding Coils with their faithful in stasis to sustain them. Meaning they are primals. Eikon is a general term, primal is a specific type of eikon.
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>>386511528
/vg/ players can't ERP so they come here
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>>386511440
here
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>>386511118
r8 n h8
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What are some comfy areas in the game to afk to?
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>>386511582
ayy lmao/10
nice neckbeard santa
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>>386511582
skin color looks like piss and shit
>>>/vg/
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>>386511240
There are a ton of shit to do outside of combat. It may not be of your liking. This includes:
>gathering/crafting
>chocobo racing and playing/collecting cards
>get a house and do some decorating
>get some retarded minigame where you train soldiers to send in missions
>dress like a slut and do RP

Every day you can go to the different roulettes and help new people with the dungeons/raids/challenge. You good shit when you complete them, regardless if they were difficult or not.
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>>386510637
>>386510818

What is his end-game anyway? He's an elder primal that's not summoned and therefore doesn't have an inherent motivation. He just decides to temper the first fool that grabs the sword and starts roaming the Shroud doing fuckall.

Like, why does he even exist? EX mode where you finally learn about his origins when?
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>>386511582
kill yourself ugly faggot
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>>386510871
Too slutty! Much too slutty!
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>>386511364

WHM is pretty easy so yeah, no worries about it. I might have to go back for a bit if there's something that actually requires some attention, though.
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>>386511570
>And then it turns out each of them are kept in their own Binding Coils with their faithful in stasis to sustain them.
Nope
Go read the lore book and re-read his dialgoue
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>>386511362
Probably going to finish Yakuza 0 since Kiwami is coming out. I had a blast with SB, but I honestly can't see myself paying a sub to do the same 4 fights and 3 dungeons every week until 4.1
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>>386511461
Is that why all of the WT have their prayer offerings captured with them then?

>>386511691
I'm assuming eikon has just become the actual word for Elder Primal, because the warring triad and bahamut are called elder primals
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>>386511467
230ms is hell. But I can dodge divebombs yet retards with >50 can't
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>>386511558
too risque
then again the two bikini strings revealed on the thighs aren't exactly christian friendly either
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Hi, redpill me on XI
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>>386511240
XIV is the least grindy MMO I've ever played. Then again, I'm used to shit like Ragnarok Online and other korean titles, so I don't know much about how modern MMOs are grind-wise.
There are tons of shit to do in endgame other than raiding, but not all of them have "carrot in sticks". Most of them you just do it for fun and minor rewards like housing items and pets.
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>>386511364
Not him but i feel like it changes from person to person. I listen exclusively to podcasts while i grind and my fingers just go into autopilot while i listen to whatever they're saying. I find the repetitive nature of grinding to be oddly meditative
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>>386511467

The same way we've always played

With 200ms
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>>386511582
looks awful, kys
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>>386511685
>get a house and do some decorating
keep dreaming
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>>386511631
I like /waterfloating in Rhalgr's Reach and Costa
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drg buffs when?
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>>386511631
These dumb lizards forgot to draw hopscotch squares
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>>386509179
Male Midlander DRG, i listen to podcasts
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>>386511691
There's literally already a questline that tells you about him. Odin isn't the primal. Zantetsuken is, and Odin is the poor fucker that's currently tempered and forced to be its wielder.

The original Odin was a hero from northern Ilsabard during the Allagan age. He traveled south to Eorzea to join the rebellion against Xande, and at some point encountered Zantetsuken and took it as his. His friends Urth and Wiyu had to fight and seal him away.

>>386511757
I have the lore book and I know his dialogue, faggot. He calls the Warring Triad 'eikons'. And then the Warring Triad are sustained through the prayer of their faithful held in stasis.
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>>386511631
I'd say Oakwood is one of the comfiest locales I have seen so far in the game.
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>>386511846
Depends on the server. Lamia has some plot available now, so I snatched one.
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>>386511889
It doesn't need any.
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>>386511691
>What is his end-game anyway?

To zantetsuken shitters and lag your server
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>>386511091
>>386511254
>>386511176
>>386509546
Zurvan would win since lore-wise the Warring Triad bosses are higher-tier primals like Odin or Bahamut
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>>386511582
I just realized, you couldn't face rape with horns like that. ...Unless you break them off.
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>>386511631
kugane ofunakura
it's a comfy dimly lit ship workshop with wooden walls and floor. it's next to the loudest area in town, but when you step into it it's completely silent. the contrast is nice. you do occasionally hear the sound of foolish cats making a *splat* against the ground trying to climb the tower though

honorable mentions: underwater bubbles (if only they weren't such a pain in the ass to get to), the burning wall, falcon's nest
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>>386511631
Top of Kugane's jump puzzles.
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>>386511780
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>>386511985
good thing the face that comes with those horns is absolute dogshit and unrapeable anyway
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>>386511582
>great another au'ra shitskin in my forest
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>>386511661
>>386511676
>>386511698
>>386511832
thx for the attention, suckers.
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>>386511118
I want to get back to grinding
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>>386511904
>if I lie enough this lie will become true
Eikon and "elder primal" are the vocabulary he uses, these are being seperate from primals
You think they are "sustained through prayer of their faithful held in statis" which is completely untrue, you think this because of the goddesses followers who were working to free her which are basically an extension of her own aether, not an actual source of prayer in a way that the dragons were to bahamut.
Educate yourself.
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>>386511691
Likely he has no motivation, since Zantatsuken only grabs one person to temper, and usually goes after the last person who vanquished it, and then Odin just wanders around, sucking up aether. So I think, because Zantatsuken's only real drive is to claim a new body, Odin's sole motivation is to feed and survive.
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>>386511631
Limsa's Inn, absolute comfy music and atmosphere. Plus you get a special log out/log in animation
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>>386511473
>black
>black
>black
This is literally the color for niggers. At least be more creative instead of trying to burn a hole on my screen where your character is
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this thread will be deleted
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>>386510871
This got a lot of (You)s
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>>386512143
we don't accept racists in XIV
have fun with your grey parses and being a punch line
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>>386512045
Ehhhh, bikini still looks better, sexiness isn't 'less clothes the better', it's about covering enough so imagination does the rest

which is why shisui gear is shit
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>>386511953
it needs to be more fun to play, why arent the devs doing that
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>>386512151
good ive been trying to get it to be deleted
/vg/ shitters need to fuck off
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[Follow-up]Regarding Field Instances for 4.0 Areas: Follow-Up
We have confirmed that the congestion caused by certain FATEs and Elite Marks has subsided. As a result, in the Patch 4.06 maintenance scheduled for Aug. 8, 2017, we will be removing field instances for certain areas.

■Field instances will be removed for the following areas:
The Fringes / The Peaks / The Ruby Sea / Yanxia / The Azim Steppe

Due to the ongoing high congestion due to large scale FATEs in The Lochs area, field instances will remain in place for The Lochs.
We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your understanding.
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>>386512183
>being racist against my parse color
Back the fuck off!?!?!?!?
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>>386512106
>You think they are "sustained through prayer of their faithful held in statis" which is completely untrue
Do not make me go start those fucking quests on an alt so I can screencap them talking about their faithful held in fucking stasis you god damn shitter. It wasn't just Sophia's demiurges that were there, it was also Zurvan's tribe. Are you going to pretend there wasn't a whole fucking cutscene about Unukalhai shutting down the stasis tubes because he thought the WoL was above that?
>Eikon and "elder primal" are the vocabulary he uses, these are being seperate from primals
Elder primal literally just means a primal that has been around a long time. Again, do not make me go dig up Koji's OF post on this you headcanonning retard.
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>>386512151
Good
Start deleting these threads on site again so these retard avatarfags crawl back to whatever shithole they came from for a bit
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>get to level 50 in ARR, holding off on buying SB until my sub runs out
>do some unsynched dungeon runs with people from my FC
>figure that the disparity between 50 and 70 will be like something from 30 to 50, expect hp/damage for the level 70 tank will be maybe three times higher than mine
>the healer's health and damage is three times higher than mine
Sweet jesus, do the levels just start scaling retardedly high after 50 or does endgame gear just give insane stat bonuses?
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>>386512151
Sickness must be purged
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>>386512097
Really reminds me of Mommy Miounne,
great Elezen, wud cuddle and fug ;_;
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>>386512195
Ao dai covers enough imo
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>>386512169
Let me try

This is the best shisui set
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>>386512151
But this is video games.
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>>386512143
ao dai literally looks like shit in any other color, m8
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>>386512290
You need a day time screenshot.
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>someone steals the lb from you
>it's a ranged dps
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>>386512195
Some parts of the shisui set does the "covering enough", because most gear in the game is
- full slut
- full muslim
with no good in between.
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>>386512245
Good. Maybe those Hunt websites will actually work now.
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PATCH NOTES WHEN?
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>>386509179
MNK/NIN, OSTs of shit like GItaroo Man and FFXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W__p0gCBSZI
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>>386512261
do it pussy, there's a whole thing called the unedning journey where you can replay cutscenes
I fucking dare you, you wont "screencap" those lines because they DO NOT exist
Go find that post idiot, you are so stupid
I bet you'll stop posting after this because you'll realize your head is broken and everything you've said is wrong
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>>386511374
>>386511465
>>386511685
>>386511808
Alright, thanks for the replies, Anons

I honestly expected to be slightly bashed for playing WoW for so long
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>>386511904

Is that info about Odin being from Ilsabard etc in the lore book? I don't recall reading it in the questline.

I also assume there is currently no explanation about Zantetsuken's origins,
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>>386511775
Eikon is just Garlean for Primal (蛮神). Other anon is overcomplicating trying to address reasonable confusion from the English version not present in the Japanese. As usual this confusion is not helped by Koji-hack's shit localization.
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>be a ninja
>want to look like a ninja
>only ninja looking gear is AF stuff
>Everything else are fucking long robes

what the fuck yoshi
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>>386512290
Nice giraffe
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>>386512290
>c@
nope
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>>386511118
I know, too hot for tv
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>>386512151
video game related thread getting deleted
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>>386511809
Your mind will tend to wander at times. So if it's fiction you may need to re-listen to some parts, or especially if you're trying to study history or something.
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These are your slu- I mean, dps for the dungeon.
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>>386512305
>ao dai literally looks like shit
fixed
they should just give us more japanese styled clothes instead of acknowledging the VCs
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>>386512330
I know, will take one when the servers go back up.
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>>386512275
best girl
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>>386512524
Ao Dai is cute as fuck, just need to wear the pants with it.
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>>386512489
Whats video game related about this thread? Go ahead, I'll wait faggot.
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>>386512489
/vg/ thread getting deleted fucking moron
take your erp avatar bullshit back to your containment board
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>>386512245
>ixion wait party instance 2

what SE was thinking
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>>386512393
Hunting down the elder primal bit now, faggot. The game isn't live, so I can't even check if those cutscenes are in the unending journey, but I'll hunt for quotes online too. Are you actually fucking pretending the cutscene about Unukalhai shutting down the tubes didn't exist? Are you going to pretend they didn't specify EVERY GOD DAMN time that each Warring Triad had their tribes in stasis tubes?

>>386512409
The part about him being from Ilsabard is on the minion, I think. It also says the legends tell that he killed an Auri warrior for Zantetsuken. Now that we have the Kojin, I'm leaning toward it being a treasure from their vaults.
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>>386512489
>video game
rate my roe in shisui gear
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>>386512505
cute highlander
>>
Do you miss it yet, /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LIw6Vnt2MI
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>>386511889
I will never understand the need to spam the shit out of something while it is on cd or gcd....
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>>386512534
>mfw i went straight for her when I learned she was one of the three for the recent Valentine's day event
Fuck man I'd date and fug her so many times, my dick can only handle so much of her mothery goodness.
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>>386512341
>Someone steals the LB and you don't get to be cool guy hero for the duty
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>>386512290
Only works with cute characters
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>>386512569
Not with that clam cape and lack of physics.
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>>386512505
gay
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>>386512636
jesus christ no
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>>386512524
Ao Dai can look both cute (with pants) and sexy (with bikini bottom) it's great
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>>386512715
Well for screenshots. I don't use it outside that.
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>>386512659
If you can't understand the reason chances are you're underperforming. Action queueing exists and so does latency. Obviously you don't need to mash 10/s all the time but there is a reason.
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>>386512505
>highlander has a dick
>catboi has a cunt
>>
>FFXV event
>Only reward is a Stand by Me orchestrion roll
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I wish I could have played Samurai with the old pvp system.
>Kaiten buffed Direct hit crit midare
>OHKO even tanks
>Mfw
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>>386512505
You're degenerate scum but the cat on the left is p cool
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>>386512913
But there wouldn't have been direct hit in the old PVP.
lol
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>>386512290
dark/10
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>>386511105
I want to go to the Bokaisen's hot springs with Alphy!
Make it real YoshiP please!
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>>386512609
they never stated that but okay you retard, I don't know what went wrong in your brain to make all this shit up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhUvq84VHG4
All that talk about siphoning sephirot with no mention of him being fed by his beilievers at all, because they are ALL DEAD
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>>386512967
You know what I mean.
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>>386512261
allagans clone the worshipers of bahamut and the warring triad to keep the physical form of the eikons in the real world
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>>386512534
Miounne is STACKED.
>>
■The following issues have been addressed.
・An issue with the Machinist action Flamethrower in which the effect would end early under certain circumstances.
・An issue with the Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual effects would overlap various ground markers.
・An issue with the Goldsmith class quest “The Perfect Tribute” could not be completed even though all objectives were fulfilled.
・An issue wherein the Stormblood elite hunt mark Angada's attack speed would steadily increase the longer it was left out of combat.
・An issue wherein players would be unable to move or perform any actions in certain areas of Kugane.
・An issue wherein exceeding a certain height in various zones would crash the game client.

Other various issues have also been addressed.

that's it wow
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>>386512913
You should have seen PVP when Morale was a thing
>playing MNK in full Direwolf
>Axe Kick a healer in full PVE gear
>literally 100 to 0
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CHOOSE YOUR PRIMAL FIGHT:

Ifrit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMLl98A0v8k

Titan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JevOJeRzIk

Garuda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqJRnD5HuZw

Ultima Weapon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBT6hOtWcfU

Good King Moggle Mog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCcbKY7d0dc

Leviathan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZiZf0M-hQ

Diabolos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDZ_q70RHac

Ramuh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG1rIz1S7k

Enkidu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylx7pbPSzkQ

Fenrir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfC-tUJGTUg

Shiva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHkMfJBDFZM

Odin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIWfW7iaj68

Cloud of Darkness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U1fY9LXnMk

Nael deus Darnus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DX3qIf4EDc

Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mM-nHCieSI

Bahamut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b96rrbo-_Ik

Ravana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_IP4mNJCI

Bismarck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9F0tU7-wbA

Thordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZHfOs2XOc

Sephirot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdV_bzJgRxE

Manipulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhDvQIqEkuI

Brute Justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg

Echidna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAkiP4WE-0

Nidhogg at the Final Steps of Faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOKdmAcSP0

Sophia the Goddess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T1k-9UvdlU

Cruise Chaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb0P9jHV8dQ

Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IiOzi05IlA

Susano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edpn4JbdBmg

Lakshmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cORuiUZzT8

Neo Exdeath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ccrOAN6nNI
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>>386513071
my dick
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>>386512636
>We will never get Locus back for progression raiding
Just end my life now famalam
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>>386513012
>Mithrie
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>>386512816
i understand there is queing and latency issues but i also understand when to actually do my shit and not needs spam the next thing till its ready.
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>>386512994
choco
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>>386513071
Well, yeah, I guess her hands are her only usable asset.
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>>386513119
HIGH
ON HIGH
I STAND
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>>386512272
the difference between 50 and 60 is high but not so big between 60 and 70
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>>386513119
was this post truly necessary
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>>386513119
Titan's still the best, easily
>>
PATCH NOTES ARE UP
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>>386513119
Why include the bosses inside Alexander? They are all part of him, not separate Primals
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>>386513280
Don't you fucking lie to me.
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>>386513119
>Diablos
>Ultima
>Fenrir
>Odin
>Cloud of Darkness
>Nael
>Thordan
>Sephirot
>Manipulator
>Brute Justice
>Cruise Chaser
>Neo Exdeath

NONE of these are primals you good
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>>386513354
>Sephirot
>Thordan
>Odin

uhh
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>>386513280
L I A R
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>>386513354
>you good
thank
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>>386513012
>All that talk about siphoning sephirot with no mention of him being fed by his beilievers at all, because they are ALL DEAD
They aren't dead until UNUKALHAI SHUTS OFF THE FUCKING SUPPORT SYSTEMS. Holy shit. Watch the cutscene after you kill him, faggot. And the Sophia cutscenes. And the Zurvan cutscenes.

>>386513037
They aren't cloning them. They're in stasis. But even if they were, it would mean the Triad are sustained through prayer.
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>>386513387
E I K O N
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>>386513131
I dunno anon, now that were fucking with dimensions, maybe we'll get a scenario where were thrown into an alternate world where Alexander decided to fight Bahamut and stop the Calamity, and we have to take down a fully charged, world eater Alexander before he fully drains Hydaelyn of all it's ather
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>>386509179
BRD/DRK, ingame music
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Heavensward: Well shit. Everyone you know is dead, the sultana is dead, the general of the immortal flames is imprisoned, you lost your blessing of light and the only place you can go is the city that shunned the world for ages.

Stormblood: Gee, I wonder what the Garlean Empire is up to!
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>>386512381
3 hours
>>
shinryu ex when?
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>>386512272
High dps at the end of 2.x was 500+
High dps at the end of 3.x was 2500+
High dps at the start of 4.0 is 4500+
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>>386513431
Eikon means a primal that wasn't destroyed and resummoned.

Sephirot and Odin fit that definition, still making them primals, but Thordan is definitely just a primal.
>>
>>386513119
Lakshmi has the best OST for me. It's just so damn catchy

>RIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE HIIIIIIIIIIIIGH
>HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH, ABOVE OUR RIVALS
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>>386513429
where's that proof anon? you dumbfuck get btfo
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>>386513249
yes
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>>386513431
>Sephirot
>Primal summoned by tree people
>Thordan
>Old man hopped up on primal dick pills
>Odin
>The sword is a Primal
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>>386513471
More like: Hey two super nukes fell into Russia and the only way we can get them back is a two front assault including coming from Japan
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>>386513474
4.2
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Why do they keep locking the best faces for NPCs only?
>>
Thordan is a dude who used the power of the warring triad to become a god like being, he was not supported by prayers of ishgaurd or had a cash of crystals to draw aether from.
>HE'S A PRIMAL BROOO
Sephirot and Odin are EIKONS, unless you think someone is praying for Odin to go on killing sprees in the shroud?
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>>386513504
Eikon is just the Garlean word for Primal.
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>>386509179
DRK/PLD
Power metal, VGM or in game music, I keep the music on especially for trails.
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>>386513651
Still dramatically less interesting than the conclusion to Realm Reborn going into Heavensward. It was such a huge climax to the story and Heavensward really never stopped being interesting even in the wordiest of parts. You can't tell me the conclusion to Heavensward wasn't one of the best finale's of any RPG to date.
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reminder that toaster players are worse than ps3 players
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>>386513684
only thing uniqe about mide is her scar
>>386513728
no retard garleans are just stupid
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>>386513471
Whats wrong with that? Throughout ARR you get pieces of info about Ishgard and the Dragonsong War, so it makes sense to step into there and delve into it's history and story, and throughout ARR and HW you learn of the plight of Ala Mhigo and Doma, so after cleaning up the troubles with Ishgard it makes sense that the next step is to start pushing the Empire back now that most of Eorzea's major problems are finally ironed out.
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>>386513753
BROOD BROTHER THOU HAST DOOMED ME
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>>386513760

I'm pretty sure you can't replicate her face, specially because of face/horns combinations
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>>386513689
>he was not supported by prayers of ishgaurd
He was. He literally fucking says it himself. He's drawing on the beliefs of old King Thordan.
>or had a cash of crystals to draw aether from.
What's what Nidhogg's eyes were for, you illiterate faggot. You don't specifically need crystals, you just need a shitload of aether.
>Sephirot and Odin are EIKONS
Sephirot was summoned. He is a primal. Odin is neither. Odin is a person tempered by Zantetsuken.
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>>386513753
I can't, because Heavensward was really good. I don't think it was possible for them to top it with Stormblood. If they just kept escalating the stakes then it'd get tiring after a while.
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>>386513684
>face 1 with a round chin
>nice scale color and glow instead of shitty nigger black
>nice eye glow that's part of the texture instead of flat, neon edgelord led lights
Goddamn I'll never not be jealous of Mide
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>>386513689
>Thordan
dude the prayers of 1000 years of war were feeding the body of thordan I with the eyes of nidhoog sister, thats were the old guy take the power to summon the primal
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>>386513756
>tfw somehow managed to log on a toaster 2000 hours over a year
>only got a PC together after watching a stream and realizing my 18 FPS wasn't cutting it anymore
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>>386509179
Highlander Male DRG/SAM working on RDM and PLD. Usually try and find thematic music for the situation. On samurai now I love DRG but I like samurai too I'll listen to Shogun 2 or taiko drum music.

>>386511362
Xcom 2's Expac and Total Warhammer 2. I'm not really too big on the Expac though - maybe in delivery the nemesis system will work but I don't find it very appealing when your nemeses will be the same every playthrough. I didn't do shadow of mordor but I thought over there you had this huge selection of possible orc nemeses.

>>386511889
It needs fun, not buffs. 4.05 largely fixed our damage we're just boring as sin to play now.

>>386511985
I realized my dislike of the au ra was because the horns are oddly ear-level and at the sides when horns for damn well every animal and/or humanoids starts more at the crown/forehead level of the head or the top of the head.
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>>386509179
SCH. I don't listen to music, ingame music is muted.
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>>386513876
True. Heavensward really felt like all the best things from a classic fantasy-based RPG mixed with modern story telling with an overarcing epic narrative and a cathartic conclusion. I'm hardly saying Storm Blood is bad but it really feels lacking in comparison to Heavensward but I guess without lower moments, things would stop being as interesting when they do spike
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>>386513873
>HE WAS
"Oh Ascalon, drink deep the power of SLUMBERING GODS"
Nah he just came to AZYS LLA for fun
>nidhoggs eyes
he didn't have them? they were with eistinen at this point
>HES A PRIMAL
warring triad storyline says otherwise
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>>386512636
No, god fuck no. I don't miss it at all.
I do however miss Metal: Alexander Wakes.
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>>386514002
Same
I just get 39-45fps
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>>386513119
If you could have the power of a single Primal, which would you want?

This also includes any ADDs the Primal possessed during it's battle.
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>>386514062
Those are literally for hearing. Animals have horns in addition to their ears.
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>>386513651
>>386513753

It could have been much better. The Alliance basically lost a primal and a metal gear in Garlean territory and had to jumpstart a Vietnam War and an Afghan insurgency at the same time, but it was treated in the most plain and straightforward way possible. It was almost like playing through a typical WoW storyline.
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>>386514120
he became Thordan with the power of Ishgardian prayer and Nidhogg's eyes, he went to Azys Lla to get more power. The fight in the Singularity Reactor is specifically to prevent him from accessing the WT's power
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>8hrs for a maint

What the fuck
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>>386514090

Stormblood's plot is largely character driven. The problem with this approach is almost all the characters introduced in Stormblood have the screen charisma of a rock.
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>>386514062
Au Ra horns are their ears.
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>>386514002
Damn, third world problems. And here I am considering a PC upgrade because I'd rather do 4k60fps instead of 1080p60fps.
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>>386514120
>"Oh Ascalon, drink deep the power of SLUMBERING GODS"
>Nah he just came to AZYS LLA for fun
You mean the thing he did after he'd already become a primal?
>he didn't have them? they were with eistinen at this point
Okay, so you are actually retarded. The WoL had one, and the other was on Haldrath's body that he brought with him.
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>>386514264
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>>386514120
>he didn't have them? they were with eistinen at this point

What, the whole point of like the Aery story was to kill Nidhogg, and only then did we realize: oh shit that wasn't his eye i stabbed him through, it was Hraesvelgar's. Where is the other one? Then it gets revealed it's in Thordan's possession. Then he gets it at the VERY end of HW, and gets possessed by Nidhogg's shade.
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>>386514272

Hien is the most bro-tier character ever you have got to give him that
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>>386509179
SAM and SCH
Stuff like this I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsmyYPqa1M
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>>386514272
That and people fucking died in Heavensward. I still can't get over Haurchefant
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>>386512659
It's to queue the action as soon as possible.

When the gcd is almost up, it will immediately go into the next action if queued. Waiting for the gcd to finish completely is losing about 0.1 sec every time and during the course of a fight, that quickly adds up.
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Patch Notes are up.
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>>386514120
Nigga did you literally not pay any attention at all to the story? Even after his fight he literally goes "How...can this be? A millennium of prayer and the Eye's power combines-and still you stand?"
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>>386514264
>missing out on 8 hours of raunchy futaroe x cat action
just end my life desu
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>people still think we know shit about primals
All we have are theories created by the scions and other scholars (like the anonymous writers of all lore book entries).
Since Gilgamesh's summoned friend we see these theories being destroyed, and the scions try to come up with a new explanations on the spot. Even Alisaie tries to do it because Susano's summoning makes no sense.
The only thing we really know is that "recently" summoned primals are eating the world, and this info is confirmed by a primal.
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>>386514314
that turned into a sword, after thordan transformed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0jG42WA3fw
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>>386514367
Nothing is going to top Haurchefant so I'm glad they're not trying to.
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Is the maintenance now?
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>>386514420
it's true

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/28053f7fa83022c6b203fdcfbd32b042fee8619c
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>>386514420
>lying on the internet
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/28053f7fa83022c6b203fdcfbd32b042fee8619c
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>>386514467
He still drew on the aether inside to fuel his summoning.
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>>386514292
>>386514150

Yeah I know but the horns are ugly as shit coming from the side of the head. It doesn't look right jutting out at such a right angle like it's some tumor growth.

Horns can come up and sweep down by the sides but they frame the Au ra's faces like lobster claws.
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>>386514264
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>Damage increase when overheated changed from 10% to 20%.
Recast time reduced from 10 to 2 seconds.

Is it fixed? I really want to level my mch
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>>386514517
>DRG just gets potency buffs
GODDAMMIT YOSHI
>that Straight Shot buff
all is forgiven
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>>386511082
Anyone have the full translated version of this?
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>That SMN "Buffs"
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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>hot shot up to 60 seconds
hilarious
it's probably good but it seems like they just said fuck it
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>>386514420
what the fuck

They buff bard and machinist barely gets anything. They're only making the problem worse.
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>>386514612
Pretty much. Overheating is now something you'll want to do and doesn't dumpster your damage for so long anymore.
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The most important patch: Automatic log out has been removed
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>>386514528
DRAGOON IS FUCKING SAVED
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>>386514517
>MORE DRAGOON BUFFS
WE BACK BABY
GET FUCKED
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>>386514462
Susan is the only primal who doesn't quite fit the mold. One person can summon a primal with the required crystals as long as they pray hard enough but that primal will be much less powerful. Enkidu was no where near the level of power that Garuda or Titan had, and even the Titan Gi Go summons is very clearly weaker and less intelligent. The only requirements were "prayers and crystals" and that means Enkidu still fits the mold.
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>>386514750
>>386514771
it'll still suck to play
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>barrage now kinda lines up with raging strikes
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>>386514750

Mere numbers won't fix the stiffness of DRG gameplay.
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>>386514462
We know a lot about Primals
Majorly is that they are not gods, nor are they the spirits of the lost called back, they are literally made up giant balls of aether, fueled by a purpose, a desire, or a will, which gives them flavor and ability, but it's just a persona to cover the giant aether sponge with a mind of it's own.
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>>386514618

>We get a fucking +40 buff to heavy thrust and +50 to fang/wheel.
>Not pussy ass +10 here and +10 there but +100 total potency boost to our end rotation double whammy
>Chaos thrust is a tiny bit less positional dependent
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>>386514528
>Didnt delete nastrond

That wheeling thrust potency is juicy though. Looks like I can finally play my main again
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>>386514659
smncucks btfo'd yet again
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>>386514659
That's a 400 pot increase per minute. What's wrong with SMN anyway, I see everyone complain but I've never seen anything specific
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>>386514659
>Bio III Potency of damage over time effect increased from 40 to 50.
>Miasma III Potency of damage over time effect increased from 40 to 50.

IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
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>Give DRG potency increases instead of fixing the shitty life of the dragon/eyes mechanic
When are they going to fire Yoshi?
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>>386509179
leveling up red mage right now but i main nin, i kind of just listen to whatever usually
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>>386514893
it quickly became one of the hardest classes to play, regarding timing and it also gets punished the most out of any dps for dying.
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>Gold: 6 horns / Silver: 3 horns
early ixion poop sockers btfo
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>>386514941

It isn't a question of gameplay design. They clearly view the current state of DRG gameplay as being fairly challenging and wanted to make it even more rewarding to play with these potency buffs.

The real problem is NIN is where all the fun is.
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>>386511846
>Being a poorfag in 4.05
Why don't you pick up fishing anon?
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>>386514806
It's pretty fucking awesome to play since 4.05 to be honest, people that don't like it are just bad.
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>>386514528
Will this make DRG top DPS now?
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>SMN still on suicide watch
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>those mch changes
>make brd even more stronger

I don't get it
Whats the role of mch?
Any meele dps or caster is more powerful
Brd has better buffs and debuffs

What the fuck is mch role?
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>>386514659
>10 potency buffs for 2 dots
Well, more of them cuckfugeeing into RDMs I guess lul
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>DRG and BRD get massive buff
>The expected MCH and SMN buff are fucking NOTHING
MY SIDES
THEY ARE OUT OF THIS WORLD
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>SMN gets nothing once again
I just want my job back, I don't want to play BRD anymore.
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>>386514859
You realize that's just for when you miss the positional for those skills

The real potencies didn't get changed heh
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>>386515071
its okay if you are in a dead server
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>>386515071
Apart from everdeep aethersand what do you sell to make money my dude? I'm still at 56 but I only just learned about sweatfish into aethersand and it made me pick up fishing again, always thought FSH was just for fun and had no profit at all.
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>>386515091
No. But people wont cry for a while
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>>386512097
what server
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>>386515059
Punishing =/= challenging. Especially when you don't even have any control over whether you get cucked out of LotD
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>>386515121
Prepping the other DPS while the manlet MCH players cock their tiny baby guns.
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>>386514517
>Barrage CD now matches up with Raging Strikes
>That Straight Shot during buff makes it easier to keep up and now lines up with songs.

God damn, Bard is going to be comfy.
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>>386514779
>Susan is the only primal who doesn't quite fit the mold.
That is the thing, we have been doing this since Enkidu.
>Enkidu's summoning doesn't quite fit the mold, he isn't a god of some beast tribe, it must be a non-canon joke!
>we are actually wrong about how it works, it is actually [...]
>Shiva's summoning doesn't quite fit the mold, people can't just turn into primals like some sentai hero!
>we are actually wrong about how it works, it is actually [...]
And so on. Now we have Susano, and 4.X will give us a new theory/explanation.
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>>386515121
They have a gun
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How do you guys justify the price month to month? I want to have fun again like I did during the rerelease.
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>>386515003
If only they would add more stuff to trade in items for. Ive already got the mount and 8 tokens left over.
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>>386515003
What?.
You are dumb.
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>>386515121
raid backup knob polisher
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>>386515203

I do agree with you that the gameplay is so rigid that your rotation will eventually get dicked over. But clearly they see it as an acceptable tradeoff.
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>>386515226
Susano was summoned by the Kojin's beliefs that the kami inside the blade would be pleased by the reunification of the artifacts. The artifacts were ancient and had gathered up shitloads of aether over time.
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>>386515226
The only thing that mattered for summoning was crystals and prayer, I don't remember anyone stating it had to explicitly be a god of a tribe
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>>386514517
Summoner

Action Adjustment
Bio III Potency of damage over time effect increased from 40 to 50.
Miasma III Potency of damage over time effect increased from 40 to 50.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH SMN
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>8 hour maintenance just for a handful of job buffs
What?
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>>386515230
I see if I want to play for a month and if I do, I pay the Legacy rate.
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>>386515403
>Susano had neither crystals or direct prayer, just general belief
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>2 second gauss barrel cooldown

Holy shit lads
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>>386515430
I assume it was to take down the extra instances mostly.
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>>386515180
>You need to be on a dead server to have a house
You can get a small for as little as 12mil on Balmung. Stop being poor
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>>386515403
Until Shiva, the Scions believed that it had to be a beastman god. Because until then, they believed it was the literal beastman god being called from the aetherial realm. Remember how they were confused as hell about what the Heretics were even going to summon?
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>>386515142
>massive buff
Dragoon got a "slight" buff you idiots
200>250 means you don't feel like killing yourself if you miss a positional on WT/FC
Their positional potency was always 290/390 depending on which one you use first
Heavy thrust buff is nice tho

It just means the few times where you can't hit a positional because of mechanics or boss rotation you wont have a gigantic dps drop

Why are you all so dumb?
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>>386515430
Dont forget the implementation of slut gear we can already own event
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>4.06
>he's still playing SMN!
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>>386515229

the only job that can commit suicide painlessly
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>after i already busted my ass
god damn it
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>Bard already good
>Make it better and ensure people will still pick it over MCH

ok then
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>>386515121
They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

If they think increasing overheat to 20% is going to help things, welp. Buffing bard on top of that cancels it out anyway. Bard definitely did not need a buff. It was already strong for its role.
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>>386515230
Because i can expect guaranteed content and there's almost something to always work for, I wouldn't pay moth to month if we didn't get scheduled patch times. And also because i know i won't be screwed if i miss one sub, so i can just come back when i want if i don't feel like playing.
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>Those SMN """""""buffs""""""""
Well time to hang up the book and take out the rapier.
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>Aeolian Edge Combo potency increased from 260 to 280.
>Potency when executed from a target's rear reduced from 180 to 160.
What did they mean by this?
Is this a nerf or a buff? Or neither?
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>no Shake it Off changes

WHAT THE FUCK YOSHI
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>they buffed DRG again
jesus christ
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>>386515494
Nothing in the notes about removing the instances. Just job buffs, item prices changes, drop yeild increase for Ixion fate and removal of the auto-log out system.
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>>386515583
less positional dependent
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>>386515651
It's not part of the patch notes, it was a separate follow-up post
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>>386515447
And who knows if Susan was summoned or sealed? White auracite can bind an ascian, who says Susan wasn't summoned hundreds of years ago and sealed using magic/special relics?
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>>386515604
They said it will be for 4.1
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I'm convinced now that Yoshi really hates SMN with every fiber of his being.
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Honestly the potency buffs are fine but i'd like it better if they didn't make Nastrond the most underwhelming spell in the whole fucking game
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>>386515403
That is what garleans believe, that is why the emperor wants to exterminate the beast tribes only instead of Eorzea as a whole. They don't even know about "primal transform" summoning process, except for a few of them, like Zenos (mostly because he used a similar trick thanks to bootleg echo) and possibly his scientist.
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>>386515618
no they didn't, they just made it so retard dragoons will do more damage
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>>386515583
>>386515656

Pretty silly change if you ask me. Its DRGs who need the less positional bullshit. This just gives license to bad NINs who spam the same combo thoughtlessly.
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>Yoshi says this patch is a SMN patch
>Amounts to 10 potency buff on the DoT's nobody wants anymore on the job
>Patch was actually a secret DRG/BRD buff batch
>Summoner tears are reported to be flooding the servers

No but seriously those MCH changes look good. Might make them more viable than SMN now meaning SMN just became last place and in the cuckshed.
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>played BLM and BRD in HW
>the city of Stormblood balancing
Holy shit I love playing the same jobs as Yoshi
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>>386514002
I played about 300 hours on PS3. Got a PC basically just to play this properly after a few Odin fates where i couldn't see him at all since there were way too many people to load.
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>>386515543

could be lower level ones
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>>386515745
>>386515727
DO YOU GUYS READ? DRAGOON GOT ZERO POTENCY BUFFS FOR OPTIMAL PLAY
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>remove instances because "congestion for certain fates and elite marks has subsided"
>increase the bumber of items droped in said "certain fate" at same time
Are they retarded?
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>You didn't waste your time maining SMN
Who else /blessed/?
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SMN is officially last place.

That's it. I'm done with this shit class. Maybe this is all a sign that Yoshi wants people to abandon the class so he can completely revamp it later.
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>>386515819
What the fuck are you on about?
Potency buffs for doing your fucking rotation normally is optimal play
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>>386515875
>got my SCH to 52 before dropping it out of boredom
>mfw everything in 4.0
Bullet: dodged
>>
Wait for 4.1 for any meaningful changes.
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>>386515931
it didn't buff the positional potencies
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>>386515875
As a SCH main I'm glad SMN got fucked.
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>>386515804
"4.X" means Stormblood content only.
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>>386515185
I've made roughly 30mil on just Ivory Sole and Motley Beakfish. Raid food is one of the biggest gil sinks in the game. Zekki Grouper is also quite nice
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>>386515203
I am glad they started to diminish the punishment of positionals. If every other melee DPS was heavily based around positionals it would be acceptable but MNK and DRG are/were really punished for not being in the right position while Samurai is rewarded extra if it does positionals and not punished for failing them. It's worse when you have bosses who literally deny even doing said positionals like Shinryuu or the Mhach platinum thing.

>>386515819

It's a quality of life boost at least, it means when the enemy denies you the opportunity to optimal flank/rear, it's too dangerous to do so due to AOEs, or you just dont' fucking feel like doing it the damage isn't so punishing.
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>>386515819
Why are you using caps to show us how retarded you are?
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>>386515875
Switched to Red Mage the first moment I could and couldn't be happier.

Current ver'lmaoing
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>>386515230
Its just $15 even at minimum wage that is less then two hours a month here.
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>>386515870

Read between the lines. People are unsubscribing, so it will be harder to keep worlds populated over time. They added incentives to keep people participating.
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>>386515931
Do you normally do your rotation while missing all your positionals? Because that's the only way you'd be getting "buffs"
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>>386515728
I wonder if this will cause Garlemald to increase it's savagery even more, since they now have irrefutable evidence of primal transformation, cause I doubt the fact that Zenos fused with Shinryu didn't immediately reach the Emperor
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>>386515727
Would it be better if DRG had BLM mechanics of Foul? Like:
Keep BotD for 30 seconds, here, have an eye! Spend the eye to execute Nastrond instead of the regular attack. You can store up to 4 eyes.
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>>386515819
Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust did NOT get a decrease in damage for not hitting positional. This puts their potencies at 340 if hitting it, 440 with Lance Mastery.
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>>386516004
Nice, fishing is really fun, glad to see its also worth something other than appeasing my autism by filling out the whole fish log
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>>386515538
Fuck you. I'll play SMN until the day XIV dies.
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>>386513873
>>386514120
The eyes he had were from Ratatoskr (probably spelled that wrong) the sister of Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr.
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>>386516010
I know for a fact that Samurai just gets the full 10 kenki when hitting those bosses. Do other positionals not do the full damage to these bosses? They should be the same thing as PotD mobs.
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>>386516012
>>386515931

WT/FC have 290 when hit from rear/flank, 200 (now 250) when not
HT has 170 when hit from the flank, 100 (now 140) when not
I don't think they'd make WT/FC have 340 potency and give HT 210 potency (which is what these buffs would do if applied to positionals) because they would do 6000 dps
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>>386516040
Gaius had already personally watched Louisoix perform a primal summoning of the Twelve during the Calamity. He even told the WoL that he could summon the Twelve if he wanted. Odds are, they know.
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>An issue wherein arcanist main hand weapons could not be glamoured onto scholar main hand weapons.

can i use SMN books now?
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>>386516162
The eyes were Nidhogg's. Ratatoskr's eyes were consumed. I even posted the fucking proof here. >>386514314

After Ratatoskr's eyes were consumed, Nidhogg went to kill King Thordan and the original twelve knights. Haldrath ripped out both his eyes, which sent Nidhogg running to Hraesvelgr for help. Haldrath kept one eye for himself, and gave the other to Ishgard.
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>>386516053
Maybe having Dragonfire Dive give an Eye while Mirage gives 2? Elusive Jump giving some time to Life of the Dragon, increase Nastrond Pot to 450? I barely play Dragoon, just spitballing.
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>>386511846
Livin' the dream senpai.
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>>386516203
Yeah, but did they know that a person could fuse or even summon a Primal into themselves? I don't think they did, since they have such simple beliefs of Primal rituals. Discovering what Zenos did may well change everything Garlemald does in regards to dealing with Primals
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>>386516053
All they need to do is reduce number of eyes required to 3, and make it so LotD always starts at 25s regardless of time on BotD.
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>>386516040
That is a point mentioned in HW's MSQ. The scions are afraid of a massive garlean attack if the emperor ever finds out that you don't need to be a beastman to summon a primal. He will associate it with the ability of using magic (something garleans don't have) and just go full genocide mode everywhere.
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How would you save machinist without adding any potency to current abilities?
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>>386516378
Well no, nobody knew that. But at least Gaius knew that non-beastmen could summon primals. It is possible he kept the information to himself, since he no longer trusted Emperor Solus after he approved the Meteor Project.
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>Summoner
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>>386514659

>Increase potency of their DoTs by 25%
>"HURR HURR NOT GOOD ENOUGH"

Fucking SMN fags I swear.
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>>386516423
>mch job crystal automatically becomes brd job crystal when equipped
I'll take my raise now, yoship
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>>386516203
what would the twelve have done?

i wonder if we'll ever have to fight them at any point
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>>386516010
pretty sure Shinryu and Ozma take positionals from any direction, you casual
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>>386516162
Ratatoskr's eyes have been gone for decades, anon. Thordan and his knights ate that shit after he ripped them out.

Nidhogg had only one eye, Hraesvelgr's eye, Estinien had one of Nidhogg's eyes. So where would the last one be, oh, perhaps exactly where it was stated to be, in Thordan's possession so he could use it's power to turn into a Primal, which is exactly what happened.
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>>386513119
Shiva still the best
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>>386516423
Extend Overheat and Wildfire to 15s. Make Heat Gauge a trait since there's no reason to ever not use it. Change Gauss Barrel to be a cooldown which boosts damage and increases heat generation.

I'm fine with MCH being the low-utility/high-damage version of BRD but for that to work it actually needs to do good damage.
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>>386516493
yes because 10 more dot potency will suddenly make them more appealing than rdm/blm lul
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>>386516493
If they had instead given SMN a new DoT with 20 potency, they would all be cheering that it was the best change ever.
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>>386516493
SMN's damage wasn't the problem
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>>386516495
Probably what Eorzeans believe each of them do. A Rhalgr primal would be more devastating than Bahamut.
>i wonder if we'll ever have to fight them at any point
Shiva and Ramuh are both already heavily influenced by Halone and Rhalgr. Ysayle was raised as a good church girl, so her beliefs about Halone accidentally slipped into her version of Shiva. Ramuh is also based on Rhalgr by virtue of the Sylphs living so close to Gyr Abania. They believe they were created by a deity of mankind who struck a tree with his lightning bolt.
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Which armor set is best armor set?
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>>386516495
He originally planned to use the Twelve to push back Dalamud, but had to change it at the last second to try and seal Bahamut away, which, as we saw, did not work.

Also I doubt we'll fight them, they are likely within Hydaelyn's self, seeing as how they were twelve giant crystal spires, and I honestly doubt we could fight actual gods.
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>>386516423
Turret is resummoned after you blow it up
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>>386516649
This
>m-muh enlightening dot upkeep!! doesn't my screen look cool with ALL THESE ICONS??
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>>386516493
Hey yoshi, when are you going to actually fix the game?
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>>386516493
why even change smn? So it can be as piss easy as all the other jobs? casuals need to get fucking good.
mch feels so neutered after stormblood.
no more: lead shot, b4b, he, rs, 5 ammo, stance dance, graze and blank dmg.
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>>386516657
Summoners damage WAS the problem.
Good players can handle its complexity and clunkiness, but why would you when you can do more damage on RDM while being braindead?
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Fav dungeon and why is it the vault?
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>>386516594
when faze 2 drops in
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>>386516470
The emperor definitely knows nothing about it, his conversation in Sea of Clouds shows that.
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>>386516702
Fending set from the vault. Any set actually it's the best dungeon
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>>386516706
>they are likely within Hydaelyn's self, seeing as how they were twelve giant crystal spires, and I honestly doubt we could fight actual gods.
Primals are never the actual gods. We could easily fight a primal of the Twelve. It wouldn't be the actual god. There is also zero proof that they actually exist, and even proof against their existence. For example, Midgardsormr had a covenant with Althyk and Nymeia according to legend. He tells us his covenant is with Hydaelyn. Menphina is supposedly the moon, but we now know the moon is Zodiark's corpse.
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>>386516820
well he probably knows now since Elidibus probably told him about it
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>>386516702
Emperor's New gear
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>>386516742
>brainlets think a bunch of obligatory buffs crammed into the opener makes something more complex
lmao play bard if you still need that
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>>386516892
Go away
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>>386516892
I love this pic, thank you!
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>>386516892
is that a nude mod? is it even good
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>>386509179
I play PLD and I usually listen to this entire album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQaSDJYwdh4
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>>386516892
slut
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>>386509945
They're probably adding more ebin outfits and weeb sticks for SAM and tweaking their damage up cause they're like this selfish SUPER DIFFICULT job and not enough people are playing it

xD
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Reading the buffs again, with the wording the ninja changes have of "Potency when executed from a target's rear reduced from 180 to 160." and the dragoon changes don't have anything about reducing the bonus potencies from positonals, maybe we are in dragoon land again
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>>386516851
I don't think the things Louisoix summoned were Primals, that was a much bigger ritual with a lot more set up and a totally different result than any Primal summoning. I believe he was actually summoning the Twelve gods, or at least some physical manifestation of them, to stop Dalamud
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>>386516940
No. Serious answer though, I think it's Sohm Al, whichever one that has the stuff that the people in Tailfeather wear. That pelt hood is great, pisses me off that your hair is visible under it though and the the WHM AF2 has that dumb looking coif thing under the hood.
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>>386517020
It's shit
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>>386517020
God no, it's never been good
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>>386510041
Sakshimi is the primal of bosoms xP
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>>386517082
>another braindead jealous monkfag in the shed about complaining samurai

Hows all that striking gear with direct hit treating you cuck?
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>>386517091
He says himself he was summoning primals, and was worried that they were going to end up doing more damage than Dalamud. Which is why he planned to kill himself before they manifested.
>that was a much bigger ritual with a lot more set up
Because he was summoning twelve of them at once.
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>>386517148
>>386517106
why are good nude mods so rare with any game
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>>386517020
>is that a nude mod?
Yes
>is it even good
It's ok
http://imgur.com/a/0yYCQ
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>>386517180
Oh, nevermind then.
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>>386517162
just fine? I mean you're aware it's good for monk too since we get guaranteed crits already with bootshine?
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>>386517162
>tfw I like both sam and monk
>tfw I even come up with glamours that fit both
Dont see where the anger is coming from. If anything its DRGs that hate SAMs
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>>386517020
Boobs looks a bit weird depending of the size because it looks like your character is using an invisible bra (since the mod basically changes the bra's textures, so no gravity effect).
Recent versions apparently have some nice nipple models (not just texture), though.
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>>386516572
>>386516293
You know that book has a ton of incorrect shit in it right? Not saying you're wrong on this one, but the book itself is filled with typos and false information. I was even there at fan fest when they had to mention it at the lore panel.
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>>386515385
I don't even think it was that.

Lets say the kojin all have some basic primordial form of the echo.

They sense the "divinity" in things. They don't believe it or think it has value because it's old.

They FEEL it.

Susano was something that was already IN these objects, perhaps from ancient cultures past. How he got there, what awoke him, we don't fucking know, but that in itself opens a whole new door of bullshit.
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>>386517267
>its DRGs that hate SAMs
This. Their dps is lower than 800 other things but they're incredibly fixated on SAMs for some reason.
Also all the lolDRGs migrated to the new big dick dps thing and became lolSAMs and you get absolute gold like "kenki should only be used on kaiten".

Fuck overwriting glamour for jobs that share gear though. Give me a real glamour system already.
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I am so sorry, SMN mains.
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>>386517358
There are typos, but nothing that's just flat out incorrect. It's minor shit like spelling mistakes.
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>>386515407
I'm building my delinquent to become a SMN. Is SMN bad?
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>>386517453
I'm not, fuck pet classes in every single game.
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>>386517453

you can't feel sorry for people that don't exist
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>>386517406
After this buff dragoon is better than sam, not in personal dps but raid wide they are probably better than ninja now
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>>386517515

no. its just too complex for how much dps it puts out. and its the class that loses the most from dying and getting rezzed
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So, im interested in this game's lore
Any suggestions on where can I read about it or is there a youtube series out there?
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>>386517453
smn is fine
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What world should I move to? Balmung is unfriendly, everyone is congregated in RP areas.
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>>386517453
It's okay. I learned a long time ago to diversify and I learn to play every role.
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>>386517406
Yeah the glamour system is the only reason why I'm holding off on leveling BLM. My autism can't handle having a class not look like it's archetype.
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>>386517642
Do not watch fucking Ethys Asher, despite what redditors tell you. He fills his videos with headcanon theories. Here's the lore book PDF.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D8Ar0UMqCrVFNWckhQZ0s3WEk/view
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>>386517597
>DRG
>better than NIN
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>386517642
Lore subforum on XIV's official forums, ingame sidequests and the lorebook. Expect lots of headcanon on youtube.
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>>386517597
>DRG is better than SAM
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>>386517694
BLM can't share gear with RDM/SMN anyway because it needs to stack the shit out of Spell Speed
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>>386517758
It was in HW, and with piercing and BL along with how its going to be 2nd overall in DPS now along with its perfect synergy with bard it's going to return to form
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>>386517620
What does it lose most when dying and getting rezzed? I'm still fairly new to this game.
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>>386517836
>it was in HW
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

go on, do another one
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>>386517620
It's not complex. It's just extremely punishing when you die. Way more punishing than any other job. Summoner is a high risk job that doesn't put out numbers any better than red mage.
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>>386517597
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make a new FFXI/v/ thread please.
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>>386517849
basically SMN's entire playstyle revolves around getting bahamut out, which you can do once every two minutes, and if you die you lose absolutely all of your progress towards bahamut and cannot start over until aetherflow comes off cooldown again, so you might be bahamutless for up to 2m59s
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>>386517778
Your days are numbered SAM fuckboy.
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>>386517862
? Dragoon was the #1 melee for all of HW
Are you denying this?
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>>386517849

summoner is a very bursty class, with the bahamut summon i'm sure you've seen floating around. thing it is has a very long wind up and cooldown

if a summoner dies at the wrong time, it can be up to 2 minutes before they're back up to speed. most dps just need a top off and a blast of MP or TP to be right back on it
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>>386517919
Dragoon was only good because BRD and MCH (especially MCH) were too strong

The truth hurts doesn't it :^)
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>>386517919
as long as NIN has Trick Attack, it is, always will be, and always has been the #1 DPS job
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>>386517816
True, but some pieces of my RDM set do have spellspeed. I'd look like a weird frakenstein monster.
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>>386517736
>>386517770
Many thanks anon's
I might be done with mmo's but I need to quench my thirst for lore
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>>386517878
And red mage is as low risk as you can get.
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>>386517902
>if you die

Why do people bring this up all the time? Why are you dying?
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>>386517162
Awww touched a nerve honey bear?
Did your whole world just fall apart imagining for a second there that your stupid weeb-bait job isn't as strong anymore?
Well you better get ready for the incoming nerfs sweetie :3
See you in a few months.
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Where did all these passive aggressive reddit kids come from
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>>386518081
In difficult content, dying is not always your fault. It's very easy for other players to kill you.
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>>386517736
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_D8Ar0UMqCrVFNWckhQZ0s3WEk/view
>308 pages

Oh boy, this is gonna be a long night
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>>386518086
>unga bunga weeb job calling anything weeb bait
Oh the ironing
There are THREE weeb melees out there and you're one of them. Get back to your room.
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>>386513753

Dragonsong war benefits to an extent with such an incredibly mythological heroic epic story of a 1,000 year war with betrayal, deceit, loss and revenge and just this great high fantasy business. It's entirely possible for political international wars to have that same kind of heroic epic quality in a fantasy game - Ivalice points to that. But they were forced to split their attention in two in a way that Heavensward thankfully didn't suffer - imagine if half the 3.0 story was warrior of Darkness and half was Dragonsong war. In HW every single zone had some resonance to the main thrust of the dragonsong war. Stuff in Othard had zero immediate relevance to Ala Mhigo and vice versa.

Fully focus on Ala Mhigo and you could have seen the divisions among the rebels played up - that balkans/Greece/Afghanistan situation of every valley and tribe and village hating eachother. First part of the campaign is having to unite the factions like Lawrence of Arabia and fight a guerilla war and the second part is conventional. Eorzeans refuse to invest until they can have proof of the authenticity of the rebellion's potential.

Instead you get one resistance faction, one village, one zone of not really even insurgency before they get the shit kicked out of them. Then a bull rush for the lochs to finish it.
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>>386517991
>it was the best BUT
stop right there kid
>>386518024
piercing debuff + BL was worth a lot more than trick in HW
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So I haven't looked too closely into this, but the Machinist changes (assuming recast of Gauss Barrel doesn't = the Overheat's Cooloff period) amount to something like a 3% buff. That would put Machinist up in basically the same DPS range as Ninja, Red Mage, Dragoon, and Summoner.

Potentially a little more because I 100% just looked at some Savage parse and did napkin math based on the assumption every Wildfire = Overheat, and I'm not accounting for the tiny gain from having to use Hot Shot less, and any potential use for the much higher heat output of Flamethrower.
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>>386518240
good joke
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>>386518175
And dying punishes everyone, if not something job gauge related, it's the 25% stat loss

Monk has to build up to GL3 again, DRG losses any progress toward Nastrond, and that's just a few things
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>>386518215
>THREE weeb melees
>NIN
>SAM
>???
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>>386518240
Not really
DRG and NIN were on par in HW until you looked at Shadewalker, at which point NIN pulled ahead due to what it did for tank DPS
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>>386518240
Are you fucking serious?
You played off me pointing out the exact reason DRG was used as an invalid point, then used the exact same reason to justify DRG over NIN

Fucking DRG mental gymnastics are amazing. You'll also notice I didn't say IT WAS THE BEST BUT, I said it was taken as MCH/BRD Disembowel slave (which is true)
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>>386518286
It's reality, because like the anon I quoted said BRD/MCH were really strong and almost every speed group was BRD/MCH/DRG/NIN and the few that werent replaced NIN with a BLM
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>>386518081
One anon asked why dying as SMN is more punishing than others and he answered, no need to get your panties in a knot there friendo.
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>>386518342
MNK???????
you flail like an asian monkey
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>>386518349
>>386518349
DRG did higher personal DPS than ninja and because of piercing did higher raid wide dps, this in undeniable unless you wanna argue against facts
I think you might be retarded?
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>>386518283
I still don't know what Flamethrower's intended use is.
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>>386518384
MNK is Chinese you fucking retard. Does anyone know what weeaboo fucking means anymore?
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>>386518384
if that makes MNK weeb, then DRG is weeb too because of the cherry blossoms on Chaos Thrust
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>>386518415
Being something that looked cool in the trailers
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>>386518297
And dying as SMN is more punishing because SMN requires more buildup to get the big boy out. So on top of the stat debuff you got to build back up all your shit, which may even take longer than before depending on what is on cooldown when you ate dirt.
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>>386518297
There's still a big difference between losing two minutes of progress and not.
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>>386514893
The problem with SMN lies in how Bahamut interacts with the player, since its actions are dictated by the player's actions. You have to fit your entire burst phase into your Bahamut summon phase, and that's just really not very good. Plus, Bahamut moves with you, and every second spent moving is a second spent not using Wyrmwave, which is a loss.
That, plus Wyrmwave is only used when you perform an action and has an internal CD of 1.5 seconds, necessitating the spamming of Ruin II and oGCDs, which means you can't even enter your full burst phase until Aetherflow's off CD.
The most commonly-requested change I've heard is to simply buff Wyrmwave's potency and make Bahamut use it automatically. That does a few things: it changes your burst window so that you're no longer fitting everything into a single duration, it means you don't have to babysit Bahamut and it means you don't have to sit on your hands until Aetherflow's off CD to enter your burst phase.
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>>386518408
Trick+Shade more than outdo or rather outdidLitany and almost Piercing, you are underestimating those things and are braindead, but then you are a dragoon

I just don't see how anyone could be thrilled to be included only because you make another job better. That's such beta male behavior :^)

>>386518415
It's not worthless for AoE in Expert, you know!
It's also a great way to get to 50 heat if you don't want to use Stabilizer to do that faster and off the global cooldown!
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>>386518384
>DRG is stupid
like clockwork
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>>386518484
I think you mean chaos petals
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>>386518415
Well, this is a nerf for dungeon use - a TP-free AOE. In single boss content (Savage) Flamethrower is generally used as an oGCD to bandaid however much heat you need to reach 95 or Overheat if you want to for Wildfire (now obviously the intended action). Cooldown is the same average potency as a full 1-2-3 combo, so generating heat to use Cooldown instead of non-bullet ammo is a DPS gain, no matter where the heat comes from.

So essentially it's this weird little thing that you shove in and use for 1-2 ticks (some opener I saw used it for 4 I think) to manipulate your heat, instead of actually letting it run the duration.
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>>386518297
you're retarded
let's say a SMN uses AF has bahumut on 2 and dies. he has to wait for aetherflow to come up, summon a pet, can do nothing but put the dots back up, and loses 2 minutes worth of build up.
A monk can just perfect balance or form shift back up and any good drag will have botd up all the time. You should actually play the class instead of shitposting about something you know nothing about, that eveyone know plays the class has agreed on
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>>386518408
>and because of piercing did higher raid wide dps
You actually believe Litany+piercing was worth more RDPS than Trick+Shade?
Holy shit, what a retard
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>>386518603
it's not like you're doing much to fight the stereotype
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>>386518297
>summoner dies
>aetherflow is likely on cooldown
>gets rezzed with 30% of their MP
>has to resummon their pet for 20% of it
>can only spam ruin because of their MP while they wait for aetherflow to come back up. Which could be 30+ seconds.
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>>386518627
It was, but only because BRD and MCH (especially MCH) were too strong. Which is the point I was originally making
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>>386518484
that's true.
in fact the skill IS called Cherry Blossom, not koji's meme translation into Chaos Thrust
melees are the weeb central lads. not that there's anything wrong with it but laughing at the others for being weeby is the most ironing thing a melee player can do. at least the rest of them aren't literal headband wearing naruturd dropouts like NIN though
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>>386518551
Shade didn't do shit because warrior was MT meta and their damage combo WAS their aggro combo
I don't get how you can say that second line unironically when you are arguing ninja was better than dragoon. Do you really have no self awareness?
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>>386518667
>at least the rest of them aren't literal headband wearing naruturd dropouts like NIN though
Beg for my Trick Attack you fat turd
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>>386518757
DRK was MT meta you fucking casual
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>>386518757
>warrior was mt meta
retard
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>>386518627
But it was?
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>>386518473
You sure as fuck don't.
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>>386518610
But its potency is so weak and it prevents you from doing anything else, so I really can't imagine that using it for the heat is better than just using any other ability.
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>>386518757
Well, I'm arguing that DRG was only good because BRD and MCH (especially MCH) were too strong. I also chose to jump in half-way into your argument with someone else about NIN, mostly out of spite. I don't know if that makes you feel a little better.
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>>386518796
But it wasn't?
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>>386518757
>Warrior
>MT meta at any time in this game's history

lol
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>>386518667
you have to embrace it
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>>386518819
It doesn't take a GCD to use flamethrower. You do a GCD and then hit Flamethrower to get a tick or two without losing much or any GCD time. You don't always have an oGCD to be weaving.
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>>386518902
Does Flamethrower tick more often than the standard 3s or something?
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>>386518862
Warrior MT was meta for all of ARR
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>>386518863
pretty sure you mean you have to believe it
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>>386518862
Wait what
Are you being serious right now? Did you play at any point in HW?
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>>386518940
It ticks every second, every time it generates heat
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>>386518940
I... believe so? The only time you'd cut into your GCD with a flamethrower is on opener though to get a bigger Wildfire by Overheating/stacking Cooldowns.
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>>386518941
It really wasn't
Even when DRKs didn't exist they were always better suited for OT
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>>386518848
Ahem
https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/10#boss=29
All of the speedkills have a dragoon
A bunch of them do not have a ninja
/argument
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>>386519067
Wow! It's almost like BRD and MCH (especially MCH) were too strong! Holy shit, man.
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>>386518384
You are borderline retarded, anon-kun.
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>>386519051
PLD sword oath out dps'd no stance warrior and defiance warrior out dps'd shield oath paladin
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>>386519109
There are even more speedkills without MCH than ninja
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuurRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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can we just let this thread go on forever? I'm fine with having one post that never dies
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>>386519109
>gets btfo
>damage controls
can't make this shit up
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>>386519067
I'm checking through every group and the first group I found missing a DRG or NIN was this one
Did you even check?
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>>386519205
Quite frankly, every speed kill should have been 4 BLM. The meta just totally missed the mark
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>>386519115
whatever helps you feel better weeaboo
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