serious question, why do you guys have such a hard time admitting

>>386466745
Recency bias. Microsoft didn't have as many quality exclusives towards the end.

didn't the wii win?

>>386466745
Because the Wii won in sales and exclusives and the PS3 won in every other categories. The 360 won nothing last gen beside the "most dudebro award".

>>386466745
because the console had a nearly 50% fail rate. ill admit it had the best games and online service but fuck me if they didn't chop at their own leg with that shit.

They won the first half of the generation, but got cocky and really started to fall apart.

Plus last generation was just too long

>>386466939
this is true, but it also means that 360 didn't win. maybe in 2005-2008 you could make that case but not after

>being a 21-year old child who still cares about console warz

>>386466965
>dudebro
Shit argument. The PS2 and PS4 are dudebro consoles of choice as well.

>>386466745
360 would have easily outsold PS3 and maybe even Wii last gen if the launch had been better and they hadn't fucked up 4 years in trying to copy Nintendo with those shitty avatars and trying to push that garbage kinect bullshit.

>>386466745
They had a solid beginning given the playstation 3 had a shit launch but later in the cycle it lost its lead completely. And I am measuring lead by a combination of flat sales and exclusives quantity + quality

>>386467138
Good thing the 360 wasn't competing with either of those then

>>386466745
The Wii won from a sales standpoint, by a very large margin.

It makes me a bit sad that people find the joy in their lives from the sales of multimillion company. These same people still play with toys.

>>386466965
>Because the Wii won in sales and exclusives
What else is there to win?

>>386466745
PS3 won over all, but i was fucking sick to death of gen 7 by around 2010 & PS3 didn't start gitting gud until that time

It would have been like if N64 only got it's good games starting in 2000, that's the equivalent

If Microsoft released the Xbone in 2011, it would have been a nail in the coffin for Sony, but they fucked around with Kinect

>>386466745
>hiding right eye
>left eye framedd by glasses, in line with one of the arches in the M of "time".

Illuminati confirmed.

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>all those early exclusive jap games
I almost wish that the Xbox had done better in japan. Funny how the only english version of Tales of Vesperia until today is still the xbox 360 one.

>>386466939
Yeah but PS3 didn't have any games at all lol

>>386467182
My point is that no one uses it as a knock against those consoles.

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>>386466745
360 was the last good console MS put out, even with the ROD.

>>386466745
I cant think of any 360 games I'd like to play but there are a tons of PS3 games on my list once RPCS3 gets working

>>386467343

Love of a woman, landing that dream job, the freedom of having countless opportunities to spend the money you earned.

Or amiibos and the profits of a japaneae company that makes games for children

>>386466745
It did.
But PS4 won this gen.
These are simple facts.

PS3 had a weak start and then got progressively better, went out with a bang with recently released games like Persona 5 and Yakuza Zero.
Xbox 360 had a strong start but then went to shit because the only games they released during the last cycle of the console were kinect shit and a couple of subpar GoW/Halo. There's basically nothing new coming for it except for sport games.

>>386467493
Well, he said "The 360 won nothing last gen beside the "most dudebro award"." PS2 and PS4 won more than that so he wouldn't say it about them.

>>386466965
Xbox was the most technically sound though and ran all multiplats better.

>>386467691
Yes and the Playstation won all of those.

>>386467859

I won those by growing out of Nintendo after SNES. I could be alone with my figurines if I hadn't.

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>>386466745
Because winning is determined by sales and the 360 wasn't the most sold?
It did far better than the nogamestation3 at the very least.
Now they have comparable sales with the over 10 year old blueray player finally managing a small lead.

>>386468045
I'm happy for you Anon. Go your ways.

I actually wanted to lough at the faggot I replied too because he feels the PS3 as winning but can't tell in what.

And we all know that games and fun don't matter, only economical success determines how good a console is.

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>>386466965
>PS3 won in every other categories
Not in Grass textures, framerate, controller and good games.

>>386466745
I don't. It did win last gen. The 360 still stands as one of the best consoles ever made.

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>>386466965
360 won in the "Most Dead Units" category.

Everyone I knew with a 360 had gone through 2-4 units, counting repairs and replacements.

>>386468994
At least MS did it for free.

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>>386466745
the ps3 managed to catch up to the 360 and I think it ended with 360 oustelling PS3 with only a slim margin

I have that Time magazine. I wish I could find it, but I remember reading about how the engineers at Microsoft spend a lot of time making sure that 360 would be resistant to damage, but it was through physical damage testing. lol

PS3 came out a year later and caught up in sales, that's a fail. Also God of War 3 looked way better than anything 360 was capable of

>>386466745
because console wars are the point of /v/
PS2 won, Xbox 360 won, now PS4 wins
there's no real room for debate, but fanboys will be fanboys.

>>386467381
Do you find yourself funny?

>>386469242
>physical damage testing.
To be fair, that was after the slim PS2 had the issue of snapping in half.

>>386469281
>God of War 3 looked better than Halo 4
Are you blind?

>>386466745
Wii was the winner just because Nintendo was the only company that didn't sell the console at a loss and thereby made a profit on every sale.

Because it had less good games and sold less than PS3 and Wii

This site is flooded with sony fanboys who have no connection with reality and are incapable of self reflection. And Nintendo fans who are just spiteful.

>>386466745
Because anyone who was actually into vidya at the time watched the wii vacuum the money out of normie wallets.

>>386466939
The Ps3 had boring cinematic experiences and weebshit, just like this gen.
>>386467108
360 won. Get over it.

>>386469485
Halo 4 looks like dogshit laminated in shiny plastic

>>386469846
how did it win?

>>386469281
The absolute state of sonygros.

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How the fuck did they win?
>Worst library
>Barely outsold the PS3 with a year long head start and forcing people to replace their red ring'd consoles
>XBLG was a fucking joke
>Kinect made their last 3 years a fucking slog
>Xbone remains a joke

>>386466745
Why is he trying to look like Steve Jobs?

>>386466745
It didn't. Wii made most money,ps3 became a better pirate machine by the end. The xbox was fun for me cause my friends had it but no one does anymore. usb modding was fun too cause people were dumb.

>>386469846
PS3's "cinematic experiences" were about as cinematic as the 360's outside of TLOU which is the more modern type of cinematic experience. The two best 360 games were weebshit so you're literally removing games from the equation as well.

>>386466745
Because this board is infested with Sony ponies who switch between their 4chan and neoGAF tabs for maximum Sony dick sucking.

>>386466745
It sold the least? How is it winning when you've sold less consoles.

>>386466745
/v/ is full of kids that started gaming halfway into the 7th gen when the Kinect killed the 360.
People that were 10 in 2009 are old enough to post here now.

>>386470174
>the two best 360 games were weebshit
Of course you'd think that, and of course you'd say the 360 had not many good games, because you're a Sonygro and your bias has no bounds.

Ps3 was infested with cinematic experiences like TLOU, Uncharted 3, MGS4, Heavy Rain, etc. Stop trying to cover up the truth that the Playstation system has been shit since the ps2.

>>386470046
>XBLG was a fucking joke
I think you're confusing that with the playstation servers. Sony's servers last gen were absolute dog shit. I didn't mind paying for Gold because XBL actually worked.

>>386470046
>Worst library
Wrong
>Barely outsold the PS3 with a year long head start and forcing people to replace their red ring'd consoles
Muh sales. If that's what it takes, Wii won.
>XBLG was a fucking joke
Wrong. Better than PSN and Nintendo Network combined.
>Xbone remains a joke
That has nothing to do with the 360, just a desperate attempt to pad out a nonsensical list.

>>386470550
Oh yeah, I loved having to pay to get the same P2P internet I got for free on PS3 and to use basic features like Netflix
>>386470604
And yet you never answered how the 360 won

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The 360 was absolutely the best console until they released NXE.

>>386470046
>XBLG was a fucking joke
Sony obviously didn't think so since you're now charging more for that than Xblgold. And considering PSN went down 3 or 4 times more frequently than Xbox live, I'd say the entirety of PSN is a joke.

Are we going to act like PSMove wasn't a thing? At least MS actually supported kinect after its release instead of cashing in on the movement control fad and giving them a bunch of shovelwear.

>>386470680
Well figures that you're now paying just as if not more for PSN to go down or get hacked. Irony.

>>386470680
>same P2P internet I got for free on PS3
there is so much wrong with this that it hurts.

>>386470680
>same P2P internet
Who's backend went down all the time, have server outages for an entire fucking month and all CC info got leaked from? Not Xbox.

>>386470338
And I can now fuck 18 year olds, so it's a win-win for me.

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>>386470846
>>386470986
Where the fuck is this "more" meme coming from? A year for PSN and XBLG is $60, and I'm fucking pissed Sony copied M$'s cancerous practice
>>386471015
Really? I remember being Gears games being a horrendous lag fest, and those games have no excuse compared to all the multiplats using the same netcode across all platforms
>>386471137
>XBL never went down once

>>386466745
360 won the race, but lost the war ultimately. 360 got discontinued before PS3 and PS3 surpassed its lifetime sales and has higher reviewed games.

Because if you go by sales, it was the Wii, and if you go by preference then you're going to have a lot of weebs and hipsters here favoring the PS3 rather than dudebros favoring the 360.

I preferred the 360 to the PS3 too, actually, but both were worth owning.

>>386471293
The PS3 won the battle but lost the war in a different sense. It outsold the 360, but it wasn't lifetime profitable due to the massive early losses on $599 (actually a low price considering the cell, which unfortunately could not properly showcase its power for gaming)

Also worth noting is that the Bone makes some nice lazy money on the 360's library whereas the PS4 has to have games ported on a 1-1 basis because emulating the PS3 without a cell is basically impossible for the foreseeable future.

>>386466745
I think it is pretty obvious the 360 was the best one out there.

Just compare halo 3 to any of the ps3 exclusives or red dead redemption from 360 to ps3.

>>386466939
The ps3 was better in the last few years quality wise. But lets not pretend that PS3 and Wii wasnt just one rack each and xbox 360 took up half of the EB games shops. All those tshirts and toys are just making up for the space that 360 games used to take

>Sonyfags call Nintendofags childish for playing "kiddie" games
>Participate in console-wars unironically
>Nintendofags say PS4 has no games
>Switch only has 4 good games at the moment
>Xbots are fucking dead
>PCfags think that since no one directly opposes them,that somehow means that Valve has no problems
Moral of the story: /v/ is fucking dead

>>386467089
>because the console had a nearly 50% fail rate

This, there were shitbox owners who actually had to buy 2,3,4,5 and even 6+ of these things and still in the end the PS3 outsold it

Thats how shit the 360 was

>>386472314
You've got it a little wrong anon.

>Sonyfags talk shit about Nintendo
>Sonyfaqs talk shit about Xbox
>Sonyfags talk shit about PC
>Everyone else tells Sonyfags to fuck off, to which they reply "N-N-/Nintendogaf!

Sony fanboys live in a state of constant delusion. It's fucking insane.

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Serious question, does anyone here still have a working xbox 360? I bought one from the second wave, had it rrod 2 months after the 3 year warranty (after that big class action lawsuit), bought a new one then had the disk fail 2 years ago I'll probably replace the drive eventually. One of my friends is on his 3rd xbox and another had both the xboxes in his house fail.

>>386472586
Fuck off Nintenbro

>>386466745
>red ring of death.
>wii beat it in sales.
>ps3 had better exclusives.

It was a Halo and Gears of War box. Nothing new or different. No variety.

It was the quintessential dude bro console that the PS4 is now.

>>386472614
I have a second gen 360 which I bought 8 years ago, it still works.

>>386472586
>muh sonyfag boogeyman

Grow up, faggot

>>386472493
>2,3,4,5 and even 6+
Except that the RROD was killed with the Jasper chipset, which was released 2 years later. Also, Microsoft would replace RROD 360s for up to 3 years, for free. Anyone buying 6 360s in 2 years (assuming they got a 360 at launch) is a fucking idiot.

>>386472043

Sony was cancer last gen. Released an overpriced console with many inferior ports, an absolute joke of an online infrastructure, and over the console's lifetime took features away from consumers (PS2 BC, Linux support). They actually made buying shit on their store a chore for the first 2/3 of its lifespan. What few good exclusives it had weren't worth the effort.

>>386466745
Same reason why I have a hard time admitting that the sun is a giant ball of ice.

What the fuck? We're your even around during PS3?

Nii No Kuni, Uncharted, God Of War, Demons Souls, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Warhawk, Rachet and Clank

How can you even compete with that?

>>386473409

>posts a list movies and a couple decent games
>considers it competition

hah

>>386473409

Blue Dragon was better than Ni No Kuni, and Blue Dragon wasn't even all that good.

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>>386466745
Because we're not Burgers?

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Serious question: will 4chan ever NOT be but hurt about Sony?

I want Sony to win just to see the salt on /v/.

>>386469485
Halo 4 looked like shit though.
t. Xboxfag

>>386473409
>that entire list of games
Whoa.... truly the best of the gen!

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>>386475257
Better question: will s0nyggers ever be able to enjoy their product instead of becoming defensive about their buyer's remorse?

>>386470060
Nobody cared about Jobs until 2007 when the first iPony was announced.

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>>386466965
All 3rd party ports ran and looked better on 360, fucking retard.

>>386476590
They also sold better on 360.

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>>386466965
>Because the Wii won in sales
I bet you think popmusic and capeshit films should win Grammy's and Oscars, too.

>>386472614
I have a Xenon from 2006 that still works fine. Had to buy a new disc drive because motor got jammed. Replaced heatsink to v2 and added a fan inside to blow on that small section of radiator. Basically gathers dust now as it is impossible to sell and I have a Jasper.

>>386469072
Because they knew their console was put together like shit

>>386472614
sort of, I have a slim that randomly powers down within 5 minutes but if I keep turning it on then it will eventually stay on and if I keep it plugged in it will sometimes turn on in the middle of the night

>>386474518
Ni no Kuni didnt even come out until 2012. by that time people were already done with PS3 and waiting for PS4

>>386466745
Apart from the wii, which was in its own category, neither the PS3 nor the Xbox 360 "won". Their difference in sales is 3 to 4 millions.
You win a console war when you outsell a competing, similar system. The SNES won against the Genesis. The PS1 won against the Saturn. The PS2 raped the Xbox and retired Sega from making consoles. The 360 and the PS3 were tied.

>>386475257
I'm pretty sure /V/ created the NO GAMES meme, v were very pro 360 in 2007, they never thought Sony could recover, but V is usually wrong about everything and what's happened this gen has caused a great deal of asspain

>>386466745
The 360 won and set a lot of trends. The ps3 and xbox 360 was the end of consoles as something positive. Now they're PCs with console operating systems, just like xbox team wanted all along. Day one patches and installations that are almost required to play the game well, unoptimized games throwing the "hyper optimization" meme out the fucking window, pro/x making older versions obsolete and optimization less relevant and shitting on those who bought the first version, and monthly fees increasing the cost of owning and operating a console to its fullest cost as much as a decent PC in the long run of the generation(especially if you bought the ps4 pro/box X.

They ruined consoles, thats why theres such a massive hate between PC and the PConsoles. Sony bronies and xbots still can't fathom that what they truly want is the PC experience.

Nintendo is the last console maker.

>>386466745
It did until the kinect.

except... the wii won last gen

>>386466745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJqliVWSSg

This sums up why they lost.

>>386466745
It depends how you figure it. If you calculate as number of consoles sold? It's in last place. Number of territories reached? Again last. Success in all three core markets (US, Japan, Europe) again it doesn't look too good, the 360 landed like a runny shit in Japan, and eventually got utterly displaced in Europe, but its North American numbers remained strong through the seventh gen. Attach rate? First place. Profitability? Not sure but it's probably neck-and-neck with the Wii because of its high attach rate plus high number of consoles sold (continuously at a profit throughout the system's life cycle) and generally being the best of the consoles for playing multiplats. Second party devs getting hung out to dry by Sony after sharecropping on their platform caused third parties to look to multiplatform development for greener pastures which is part of the reason, along with homogenized architecture, why exclusives are relatively rare now.

>>386466745
>dave chappelle speaks
>xbox front page

may 2005 wasn't a solid issue for Time Magazine

>>386476903
wii won in sales and whether or not you think it's for plebs is completely irrelevant
it's simple numbers, you can't cheat numbers

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the 7th gen was garbage
the 360 was garbage with no exclusives
the wii was motion controlled garbage
the ps3 was weak garbage with garbage exclusives
and pc was mmo subcription garbage with canceled games and garbage ports

The only real gaming device that true gamers, such as myself, played was the Game Wave Family Entertainment System.

>>386472614
I've had a slim since those launched in like '09 or whatever it was. Still works perfectly.