Nintendo Switch 10fps Edition https://www.youtube.com/watc

I'll wait until its out before judging frames

>>386458428
>out in 3-4 months
>they will do magic

>>386458585
Basic optimization isn't magic, it's the norm. You're just used to most developers not giving a shit nowadays.

>>386458585
I don't speak frog, I don't know what event this is from nor when it was. Also, optimization is always dead last for game development.

Nintendo lost.

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>>386458268
>letteraly 15 fps non stop
>grass popping every step
>shit texture if distance > 10m
>combat look like shit

at least we have boobs, it should be enough for nintendo fags

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>>386458268
>another dumb fps discussion
When will this buffonery end?
Nier Automata has the shittiest frame rate ever and it still looks and plays great.
There are literally no stupidier discussions about vg than those regarding fps. Even waifufaggotry is more useful.

>>386458268
The absolute state of Switchfags.
>>386460253
>Nier Automata has the shittiest frame rate ever and it still looks and plays great.
Oxymoron

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>>386458268
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF DOSE TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-

You cannot capture framerate properly with a video recorder from a stage. If you think the video camera and the on-screen overhead will capture frames insync you are retarded.

Looks like a fucking downgrade compared to X, the city looks cool though.

>>386459905
just like graphics is enough for sonyfags.

>but Sony

>Same area again
Nah

>>386458268
Only like 18 fps in certain parts. Couldn't find a single part where it went down to 10.

>>386458860
>norm
>developers not giving a shit nowadays
Doesn't that make it not a norm anymore then?

>>386458268
Jesus fuck that runs like shit

>>386463295
Old build

>>386463337
Lets make a bet. If final product runs around 25 with dips ill fuck your ass. If it runs at smooth 30, ill fuck your ass. Deal?

>>386463487
>XBC
>Pretty solid 30fps
>XBCX
>Pretty solid 30fps
Odds in my favour, hun

>>386458268
She looks ridiculous. I'm so glad blades can be changed. Too bad the MC can't be but hopefully there'll be different outfits.

>>386463681
The scales are tipping in my favour this time. The switch can barely handle open worlds.

>>386465606
You have no idea what you're talking about

>>386465640
As a matter of fact, I do. You will see on release day.

>>386463681
I haven't played X but the the framerate in the original XBC went to shit very easily, far from a solid 30

>>386460883
But Sony, eh?

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>>386458268
TAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

>>386465962
can you equip different armor to make him look less retarded?

>>386458585
>out in 3-4 months
it won't be out tll 2018 at least. no xeno game has ever met its original release date.

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Oh boy it's another sonybro shits on Xenoblade because of fps

10fps > 20fps > 60fps > 30fps

>>386465962
Honestly, this is probably the worst, most repulsive thing in the history of videogames.

>>386465962
>>386458268
literally the worst designed JRPG protagonist of 2017

>>386463847
You are a homosexual.

>>386458268
Expecting optimisation up to release, then a day-one patch. No worries

>>386465929
all shitposters are canadian sonybros, it's a known fact.

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>>386466003
You can't.
XB2 is a fucking downgrade after XCX in all fronts:
- visual
- performance
- gameplay
- builds
- style
- mechs
- online

isn't this shit coming out in like nov/dec? More than enough to iron things out

but regardless of framerate, they should really make the gameplay faster, it's way too slow as it is. Also the protagonist looks like a total fag

>>386466237
You're going to be doing this for the next three years, aren't you? Can you at least be polite and put on a trip?

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Shut up and post more Pyra

Isn't filming with a typically 24fps camera deceptive for this kind of thing though?

>>386460253
>Nier Automata has the shittiest frame rate
???
It was 60fps the entire lenght of it

>>386460253

They made the game look like ass to get it to run at 60 fps. Unfortunately there are frame rate drops everywhere and it only runs in 900p on the PS4. The PS4 Pro version runs in 1080p with a solid 60 fps. However, if I'm playing a game on the PS4 Pro I expect at least 1440p, not a peasant resolution. The PC version sucks. The frame rate drops are so bad it's unplayable unless less you want to run it in the peasant resolution of 1080p. Still amazing game, despite terrible optimization.

>>386466237
>You can't
source? I'm legit curious

also small ass screenshots like this basically hide all visual defects from XCX. That game didn't look particularly impressive in visuals

>>386466495

Only on the PS4 Pro, the PS4 version has horrendous frame rate drops. So does the crappy PC version.

>>386466237
Hope you enjoy the future of Xenoblade Chronicles, or should I say, Xenoblade Dogma.

http://nintendoeverything.com/monolith-soft-looking-for-an-action-planner-with-knowledge-of-online-games-medieval-fantasy-settings/

>>386466318
>but regardless of framerate, they should really make the gameplay faster

So people forget that in the previous games the gameplay only got faster mid game?
In C was even worse because the enemies had fuckhuge hp right in the beginning and you spend most of the time auto attacking and wait for them to recharge

>>386466646
the PC version only runs as crappy as your crappy PC hardware.

runs 60+ fps on my AMD machine

>>386463847
She must be always equipped

>>386466686
XCX* my bad

>>386466729

In what, 1080p? Lol.

>>386466237
best Xeno game ever created.

>>386466646
I play on PC, Far resolves any pc issue just like Dsfix fixed every dark souls issue back in the day.
Git gud

>>386466686
>gameplay only got faster mid game
in an RPG like this that means what, 15-20 hours? That's still a ton of time with slow ass gameplay, basically FFXIII syndrom

>>386466646
PC version is fine though, especially with the FAR mod

>>386466778

So you're able to get 4k/60 fps?

>>386466770
1080p @ 120 fps > 1440p. @ 60 fps

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>>386466569
>source? I'm legit curious
In inventory menus you can see 2D art of all the characters instead of their 3d models like in XBC or XCX.

In the all plot-related fragments of trailers characters wears same outfits.
There will be no armors, it's plain obvious.

>XCX was technical marvel running at a smotth buttery consistent un-dropped 30 fps on 10 year old hardware

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYfIdZ-_a0

>NuXenoblade using reused XCX assets and regurgitated XCX engine on modern hardware can't even run at a stable 20 fps.

>>386466992
You are a retard.

>>386458268
Civic reminder that this game
>will be casualized
>will be railroaded
>will have a haremshit LN story
>will spell the death of true Xeno games
>will lead to a dark age of shallow gachashit
http://www.wahmmo.com/why-xenoblade-chronicles-2-has-a-character-designed-by-tetsuya-nomura/
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/15/tetsuya-takahashi-shares-a-message-about-xenoblade-chronicles-2-with-the-fans/
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/25/xenoblade-chronicles-2s-executive-director-says-like-work-much-smaller-projects/
When did Takahashi decide to abandon his fans bros?

>>386466857

And what resolution/fps are you getting?

>>386458268
>Fat cunt
>Goatee
>Hat tilted to one side, and not even fully on his head

This guy is a fucking tool.

>>386458585
Splatoon 2 went from 720p to 1080p in 4 months

>>386466974

If you're getting 120 fps in 1080p you should be able to get 4k/60 fps. 4K cuts resolution in half.

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>>386467057
>switchcock in denial

>>386465765
No, really, you have no idea what you're talking about if you think the Switch can't handle open worlds.

>>386467047
And this is why we're anti-hype g XB2 to hell and back. A technical failure with no redeemable qualities in sight. Just another lump in the pile of nuweeb trash.

Glad to see /v/ exposing it as the repulsive atrocity it is and boycotting it like actual fans.

>>386467162

cuts fps I mean.

15fps is all you need. Human reaction times are more than 1/15 of a second so you literally can't even tell. Nice try tho sony ponies

>>386466058
is this how americans list their dates?

>>386458585
Optimization is always the last thing developpers work on. While a 60fps is probably completely unreachable, a solid 30fps might not be. Splatoon 2 went from 720p to 1080p in a few months you know.

>>386466495
On PS4, absolutely untrue.

>>386465837
X was solid, I only had it randomly shit the bed once in 170 hours.

>>386467345
Did you ever read the follow up? It was on PC, only kids would start talking shit about fps like a metric on consoles.

We'll just have to wait for the Switch emulator.

So, when is that coming?

>>386467162
The point is fps > resolution

>>386466237
Please, do not force this shit. The divide between Xenoblade and Xenoblade X fans already makes no sense, we don't need yet more fragmentation with 2.

>>386466913
>>386467067
>>386466770
The Pro version is 1080p as well you stupid faggot

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>>386467497
>emulation of modern consoles
In about 15 years, give or take.

>>386467576
Kill yourself switchcock. Go back to your seasonal LN that calls itself a Xeno game and leave actual Xeno fans alone.

Also see >>386467059 for the extent of how much you're fucking our series up.

>>386467576
oh yes we do, XC and XC2 fans need to stay as far away from the XCX, XG and XS fans.

>>386467525

Anything over 60 fps is overkill. I had a 120 hz 3D monitor last generation. I pulled it back out recently to see if 120 fps is worth it. It isn't. There is some difference between 120 fps and 60 fps, but it's nowhere near the jump from 30 fps to 60 fps. 4k/60 fps is way better than 1080p/120fps.

>>386467067
Not him, I played the entire game at 4K 60FPS with FAR. I could pretty much get there without it too, but using FAR I could smooth out the last few issues.

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>>386458268
I know optimization and shit will come last but meh, I don't like this setting much. After XCX these plains looks really bland and generic.

>>386467736
Based anon got the right idea. Muhnado babies don't belong anywhere near our threads.

Stop enabling these literal LN stories for nuweebs, cucks.

>>386467659

Because the PS4 Pro is shit compared to a good gaming PC.

Frames dont matter on the Nintendo. It's about atmosphere and fun, a feat that dudebro consoles lack

>>386467797
What did you expect of a series that will go full FE waifushit with a shonen haremshit plot that only nuweebs will circlejerk over.

They are the ones that took our series, and for that they will be driven out. Are you with us?

>>386467775

Well, I pirated it, they may have fixed the issues with it. I've already played it on the PS4, so I don't feel like buying it again.

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>>386467576
2 is fucking pointless. Everyone wants XCX sequel.
They have engine.
They have Mira.
They have interesting plot premise with Elma.
They work on this piece of shit MOM SAID IT'S MY TURN TO BE THE HEIR TO THE MONADO

>>386467497
considering how far along cemu is hopefully not long

>>386467692
I don't know, Cemu can run several games fairly well and the Wii U was released five years ago. Maybe if we're lucky in 10 years the will be a Switch emulator at the same level Cemu is now

>>386467797
I feel playing the Gaur Plain card again (the demo area is even called Garanti Plain) just doesn't have the same wow factor anymore, especially after X where the Gaur Plain moment was extended to an entire continent. What I'm hoping for the most is getting cool sky-based areas since there is sky travel. I love seeing the sky below and all around in rpgs.

>>386467714
>our
piss off falseflagger

>>386468047
Switch is using Nvidia hardware, which is a massive pain to emulate because Nvidia keeps their documents close

Maybe some russians can hack them or something

>>386459481
...what did they lose?

les poisson les poisson hee hee hee hon hon hon

>>386468260
honor

>>386467736
If you knew how the reactions to these games played out when they were actually released then you'd be laughing at your post as much as I am. Ignorance is funny.

>>386468315
Ouch. Sudoku time

>>386468047
The Wii U hardware is based on a 2008 GPU, it doesn't matter if the games where released 1 year ago.

>>386468028
Nah, I played the original unpatched version.

>>386468034
>5 years and the Wii U is dead
>not long
lol

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>>386468179
Sorry, but skies already looks like pixelated N64-esque mess in XB2.

>>386468031
This. Everyone fucking wanted XBX2, but (((Takahashi))) decided to fuck his fanbase in the ass and gave us an unnecessary, casualized as fuck sequel with a whiny shota protagonist and a haremshit story.

>>386467059
>no replies to this post
Guess the nuweebs lost this argument.

>>386468650
God this is just one of the worst games I have laid eyes on. Literally going to be the MEA of 2018 and anyone with half a brain cell knows it.

>>386467320
>Optimization is always the last thing developpers work on
Yeah you're right. After launch and through a number of patches. So you'll still get the pleasure of that nice and juicy 10FPS action. Even Zelda BOTW needed 3 patches to fix it.

>>386468795
this post reeks of pokebarneyfag

Considering what we know about Monolith Soft, and their work with Zelda BOTW, I think we'll be looking at maybe 900p, possibly 1080p resolution scaled, here for the final target.

Look at Zelda
>900p
>Big world
>Seamless for the most part
>Based on WiiU tech
>Rampant physics engine
>Resolution scaling when the game is under particularly intense load down to 765p

Now look at XB2
>World said to be bigger than X
>Little physics manipulation
>Based on updated version of X engine, but adapted from the start for Switch
>Enemies seem to be higher polygon count than BOTW, but with less collision

>>386468889
No it just proves that nobody is hyped for this shit excuse of a cashgrab sequel.

>>386468920
>>World said to be bigger than X
Yeah fucking right.

Enjoy your railroaded shonen shitshow.

>>386468920
>Resolution scaling when the game is under particularly intense load down to 765p
810p, it drops 10% on each axis

>>386469002
no it just proves you have autism

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>>386468920
>Enemies seem to be higher polygon count than BOTW
Enemies looks worse than their wii originals models. Just compare Gaur Plain dinosaurus.

Random crab in XCX is more detailed than whole "continent" in XB2.

>>386467162
4k is 4x the resolution of 1080p. 1080p 120fps = 4k 30 fps

>>386469194
>Enemies looks worse than their wii originals models
nigga are you blind

>>386467134
It went from 720p to dynamic 1080p*

>>386469348
So like every (((1080p))) game on console?

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>>386458268
holy shit that folliage pop in lmao

>>386468518
Is that good or bad

>>386467996
IIRC Takahashi said himself that he doesn't want to invest himself in big plot driven games anymore. I didn't mind the first Xenoblade, the writing wasn't good, but eh, it was bearable, not too cringey for a shonen-ish plot, and the game had other qualities. I think "exploration" is the new motto of Takahashi, he did quite a good job with that especially in XCX imo. But he doesn't care much about the rest anymore.
But yeah that kind of sword girlfriend story and shota chara design is pushing the wish-fulfillment a bit too far for my taste unfortunately... Though that doesn't explain why the level design seems underwhelming.

>>386468179
>I feel playing the Gaur Plain card again
Yeah it's definitely my feeling too. And it's a bit disappoining since Monolith created some crazy ass environments in XCX. Hope for cool sky based areas too, but from my understanding of an old interview, they won't exactly be free roam, since there is like a "cut" when you go in the sky. But I read the article a bit quick and might be wrong about that.

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>I want a new Xenoblade!

>>386468795
>Guess the nuweebs lost this argument
It's almost like only you care or something

>>386469474
It means that emulation is easy as is old hardware, but trying to emulate the switch could really take another 10+ years to be done.

>>386469585
How does that explain this entire thread shitting on every aspect of this cashgrab turd?

Muhnado babies were a mistake and we all know it.

>>386469709
Nah, just you anon.

Is this xcxkun new or has he been doing this for awhile?

I wanna use Pyra's boobs as a pillow.

>>386469812
I think it might be XVkun falseflagging to hell and back after XV scored lower than XCX

>>386469709
There's an entire thread shitting on xenoblade because that's the only thing /v/ knows how to do. It's like complaining lions eat meat when you see one eating your favorite animal.

>>386469889
Lol no
>>386469812
Doubt it, every game seems to have a shitposter now.

Weeb-retards like this >>386469838 will be pleased with that trash.

>>386469812
>blaming a boogeyman for an entire board calling out shoneshit haremshit storytelling in a series that used to be above that
>not to mention silky smooth 10fps and popin out the dick

>>386468816
True that. But to be fair, BotW had a very complicated developpement in general, from it's new physics mechanics to the global game design, moreover devs had to port their game on Switch in the middle of it while respecting a tight launch date.

Here XC2 just looks like the first Xenoblade with a new setting and characters. Nothing mind blowing or completely new to the genre. I think we can hope for most of the technical issues to be fixed for release.

>>386469812
I dunno but this game still looks better than FFXV

>>386470050
Get used to it, because they're taking over the Xeno fanbase now, and will demand this shit over and over and over again. Not to mention Nutendo owns Takahashi's soul so he is forced to churn out this sanitized saccharine shit for the rest of his career.

>>386470202
Not him but as long as it doesn't have a"can't touch me" button, it's automatically better.

>>386470073
>an entire board
>Next to no one else cares
Really makes you think

>>386470169
BotW only begun full development in early 2014, the Switch was a known entity for the internal teams by early 2015. If anything, the difficulty was probably in asset creation and testing the physics engine on both consoles.

>>386466051
You were able to play X on a keyboard? Has anybody ever tried this out? I literally had no clue this was a thing

>>386470202
Literally not difficult. Considering FFXV is half a game with an unfinished story, it shouldn't be the fucking benchmark.

>>386470417
It's for chatting on the miiverse post things using a USB keyboard, you can't map buttons to it.

>>386470417
It's for talking to your squad, it's incredibly useless.

>>386469709
/v/ shits on everything. Absolutely everything.

If this game success in Japan, we can kiss good bye to an X sequel, this game reeks of pandering for Japan mainly since X sold like crap there, while X aimed for a balance, that say if the game is good I buy it, below a 7 I wait for a price drop.

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>>386466072
Are you sure about that?

you can literally spot the circle that marks the draw distance for grass and textures around the character.....

>>386470921
They both sold about the same in Japan, actually. By the time both stopped reporting sales from Media Create they were around 150k.

>the switch is a piece of shit
who'd have guessed a tablet is underpowered

>>386466058
where does peace walker fit into this

>>386458268
Who cares, dual audio is more important.

>>386458860
>>386458892
>>386467320
Optimizing AKA downgrading.

>>386472468
Some cases are that, yeah. But in the case of both Xenoblade and Xenoblade X, the graphics just kept getting more and more polished. Look at the Monado: Beginning of the World trailer from (I think) E3 2009 or at the reveal trailer for Xenoblade X, which has marvels such as a right-angled shore. It would be the same deal with Xenoblade 2 since it doesn't seem to feature anything that would need downgrading to run better.

>>386472468
It's easy to be hopelessly pessimistic

>>386468047
Apparently it was because someone leaked inside info of the Wii U to the emulator team.

I'll never forgive them.

>>386469953
It really does seem like literally every popular new game has a shitposter exactly like pokebarneyfag these days, there was a shitposter in a recent Trails of Cold Steel thread that was aping his style right down to the fine details. It's probably effective just because it's both inflammatory and obnoxiously circlejerky.

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RE: alternate outfits.

We know there's a scene set at a hot spring so Takahashi will at least find a way to bullshit swimsuits into the game as always. Not looking good for outfit changes in general I guess.

>>386469427
Not quite. Most games have a fixed resolution that's labeled 1080p but is actually something smaller that's upscaled, and the frame rate is allowed to float and drop. Splatoon has a variable resolution with a max of 1080p that's allowed to float and drop, and has a frame rate that's hard capped at 60fps (the game will lower resolution dynamically to maintain 60fps).