>le "crash 2 is the best in the series" meme Now

All the secret zones are obvious

Prove me wrong

crash 2 is the best

Contrary to the increasingly popular meme, not all opinions are "memes".

CB2 was a huge improvement gameplay, animation and style-wise. The babby Polar bear alone makes the game GOTY.

2 > 3 > > > 1.

>>386456804

yeah it's only really the blue gem that was the least obvious

>>386456804
>fake nitro stairs
>jump on this inconspicuous platform

how the FUCK was anyone supposed to know? It's nintendo-tier cryptic "buy our fucking guides goy" bullshit

>>386457005
underage

Why would 2 be lower than 3 if gimmicks were a problem? 3 had way more shitty gimmick levels.

>>386456689
>was anyone supposed to know?

By buying the strategy guide, how the fuck do you think they sold those things back in the day when decent internet was scarce?

>>386457005
The fake nitros don't jump around like the normal ones, and the loading screen hint tells you to look for a "well-hidden secret"

I fucking hate all of the vehicle levels, should I even bother playing 3?

>>386457702
>loading screen hint

woah, so this is the power of neo-/v/

>>386456689
>levels are gimmicky
>90% of the stages are pure platforming with few exceptions
>One of them being the polar bear stages which is the exact same shit as Hog Wild In Crash 1 and the China levels in 3
>The jetpack levels where only two show up and at the very end of the game
>Secret zones are actually challenging and feel rewarding to play through

You're a fucking baby OP.

>>386457829
they're on the screen for like a minute so you might as well take the time to glance at it, you inept cunt

>>386457005
Nitro is perfectly still and not making a noise, they stand out like a sore thumb

The platform isn't inconspicuous at all. It's the only one of its kind, absolutely nothing on it allegedly but you can see you can make it there by jumping the boxes. When you see you're missing a gem on the levels entrance it's the only logical place to go

>>386456804
This.
Maybe not "obvious," but they are all pretty much subtly telegraphed. Crash 3 is the game with all the BS secrets.

>>386457880
I think he's referring to the fact it wasn't in the original

>>386456689
>how the FUCK was anyone supposed to know?

Strategy guides and videogame magazines would sell for a reason.
People like to remember the old secrets and cheat codes as magical times, but they were the closest equivalent of DLC since they couldn't implement that.

>>386456689
3 is by far the best one in the series

All of the games are heavily flawed and has several instances of poor game design.

Honestly ND weren't that good at these types of games, even the Jak series was underwhelming as a whole.

Byth Spyro and Sly were far better series.

>>386457702
You have to remember that these games were designed without the hints.

>>386456689
3 is objectively the best, even if it has 3 or 4 bullshit motorboat/airplane levels.

>>386457880
He's referring to the original, you mong.

>>386456689
I agree with Crash 2 not being better than 1, however you're so wrong about the secret zones. Only one is kinda bullshit because you have to kill a plant and stand on its platform but that's it.

Crash 1 seems to have variety in level design and to be able to pack as much as it can in one level due to limitations. In Crash 2 there just seems like a lot of empty space and reuse designs like "fight these moles in a pit" and "run past these falling pillars" Not a bad game at all, just hope 3 is better

>>386457005
Because those nitros were not moving at all. That's fucking suspicious.

>>386457993
The only way you were finding that bullshit entrance to that one jetski level was either through dumb luck, a strategy guide or the one kid in school who had one

>>386457005
>It's nintendo-tier cryptic "buy our fucking guides goy" bullshit
As false as humanly possible. Having a pile of nitros shaped as a staircase is already suspicious but they don't even act like normal nitros, and the "inconspicuous platform" you mentioned is in plain sight and can easily be jumped to. How is this anywhere near as bad as something like the first Zelda game where the secret caves have literally zero giveaways? If you don't have a guide for that game, you essentially just have to walk along the walls inch by inch, dropping bombs randomly and hoping that you accidentally open a cave. That's bullshit, I agree, and the Crash 2 secrets are pretty damn easy to find compared to that.

>>386458120
>3 or 4 bullshit motorboat/airplane levels
You're forgetting the motorbike and jet ski levels. And the underwater levels aren't the greatest either. And at least three of the five secret levels are these gimmick levels too.

>>386458120
>3 is objectively the best
"No"
The problem with the third game is that there are too fucking many gimmick levels. You have the underwater levels, motorbike levels, jet ski levels and plane levels that are all shit, and along with the Pura levels they literally take up like half the game. Crash 2 on the other hand is mostly pure platforming as is also more challenging. I honestly cannot understand why anyone would prefer Crash 3 unless the person is a massive nostalgiafag.

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>>386458631
>>386459316
>complains about variety in a game
I bet you are also against the special powers, relic challenges, better music, better design, better bosses, better "pure platforming" levels, better villain and better story. Oh I know, you are one of those "people" that hate fun right?

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the best ever

>>386456689
I respect you for liking 1 over 3, but you still got it wrong. Crash 2 is the best. Only gimmick levels are the jetpack ones but even those are amazing.

>>386458276
The first thing I did when I saw the alien sign was hit it because I'd never seen it before. Eggipus Rex was bullshit though and I found that by pure chance.

>>386456961
Blue gem has a strong hint, you get a new box counter that says X/0 at the end of the level that suggests what you need to do.

>>386456689
Get good, Crash Warped shill.

>>386456689
doesn't even matter. CTR and the Party games one are the real gems of the Crash Series

>>386459834
The problem is that none of these non-platforming levels are as fun as the platforming levels and a lot of them are just straight up either boring or annoying to play due to shitty controls.

>>386459834
>>complains about variety in a game
Variety is good only if it's executed well. Making 50% of the game annoying gimmick levels is not good variety, it just makes the game a fucking chore to play. If the core gameplay is good, you don't need to shoehorn variety in there simply for the sake of variety (for a good example, see DMC3). When developers start adding all kinds of dumb shit in the game that nobody asked for, it's usually a dead giveaway that they're out of fresh ideas, and this is exactly what happened with Crash 3 along with many other platforming games that are third in their respective series like Spyro 3 and Sly 3. The rest of your post is essentially bait-tier and I'm not going to address it.

>>386460321

i never saw that...

>>386456689

Crash 1 is just annoying and unfun.

Crash 2 is ok.

Crash 3 is their magnum opus, a game to change all games.

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Crash Bandicoot 1 has the best atmosphere.

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I actually like crash bash the best

I really love what the remake did with the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBFqmBYHcRU

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out of 5 levels in the first warp room, only TWO are platforming levels
the egyptian and arabian levels are reused far more than any theme in crash 2
there are like, 5 motorbike stages
the powers feel like shit to use, the double jump barely works and only activates when you're in the middle of raising up from another jump, you can't space it out
the fruit bazooka is slow and clunky and the aiming isn't in 3d, it's just a cursor over the screen
belly flop is fuckin useless
secrets hidden badly
secrets locked behind relics
the water levels suck
the airplane levels suck
FUCK CRASH 3

>>386457879
The polar bear stages are way worse trial and error stage memorization than Hog Wild, especially if you're trying to get all the boxes.

>>386461916
Your shit taste is infinite.

>>386456689

The secret warps were some of the BEST in any platformer, what the fuck are you whining about?

2 > 1 >>>>> 3

The original Crash on the ps4 is a huge steamy pile of shit.
HOW THE FUCK IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE HIGH ROAD SERIOUSLY? that shit is flawed level design, if the developers at vicarious visions are that damn incompetent to realize that changing the engine would have a negative effect on the game they deserve to be gunned down.
What an irredeemable piece of shit.

>>386462448
Not him, but someone who defends Crash 3 isn't really in a position to be attacking other people's "taste."

>>386462782
What's funny is VV says they reworked the mechanics of jump over 100 times during development. Yet they still couldn't get it right, apparently.

>why are secrets hard to find

>>386462448
Crash Warped has 15 non-platforming levels.
Crash Bandicoot 2 has 5.

>>386457005

The nitro crates don't bounce. They are completely static. If you had played the game for a while, you would notice.

Honestly, I felt like a complete retard when the hardest one for me to figure out was beating the timer in the river levels.

Literally 40% of 3's levels are gimmick levels.

>>386464398
50%

It's a 15 to 15 split

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>muh """"""""gimmuck""""""""""" levuls

Literally all the arguments CB3 haters have. Fuck off with your shit opinion.

>>386456689

>BULLSHIT secret zones, how the FUCK was anyone supposed to know?

Welcome to 90s gaming OP. 2 is the best one for all people of taste, deal with it fag.

>>386457767
How do you know you hate them if you havent played 3. 1 and two don't have vehicles.

>>386465191
It's a legit argument though, you can like the levels but they are completely cut-off from the rest of the game.

>>386459834

>better music than 2

Maybe in the remake, but original 2 ost was goat

>>386466220
"No."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDrcT3UxZw

>>386456689

Kids back in 90s hadImagination and they enjoyed exploring, now we have empty open worlds and hallway simulators to cater shitters like you since you lack imagination

>>386466340
I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

>>386466319
Regardless of the actual music, it fuckin sucks that all the bonus rooms and death routes use the same track in 3 instead of original remixes like 2

>>386456689
I've only played the N-Sane trilogy, but I beat all three.

If this is an accurate representation of the franchise, Crash was always shit and miles behind Mario, Sonic and Spyro as far as quality goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQjB9uGDn2E

Have you seen the latest /v/ memes friends
It's all crash bandicoot for you

This game is shit though stop talking about it

>>386467435
I can agree on mario and maybe some sonic games, but how the flying fuck is it behind spyro? what sort of "quality" are you talking about? spyro games are barely platformers. You mostly collect gems and flame or charge piss easy enemies. At least in crash games the obstacles or jumps require some timing and presition, in spyro games there isn't a single difficult jump or obstacle in the entire trilogy that requires any degree of skill. Even tree tops baby easy once you know what to do.

>>386466340
Wouldn't a lack of imagination in kids be caused by overly-detailed games preventing them for having to imagine more, like kids did playing 8-bit games?

>>386466340

Blame readily available game walkthroughs. Fuck those things.

Original Trilogy
2 > 3 > 1

N-Sane Trilogy
2 > 1 > 3

>>386471124
This

>>386471124

Was always like that to me.

>>386456689
I played through it for the first time last month and found all the secrets within two days, apart from the nitros that aren't nitros thing.

Also I played the whole original trilogy in a row, Crash 2 is the best and its not even close.

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Cooch.

>>386466170
>Underwater levels
>Motorbike levels
>Plane levels

You're right, gimmick satges suck, which is why CB2 is the best.

>>386456689
>but some of the levels are gimmicky
You're thinking of 3.

>>386471124
You are joking right?

3 > 1 >>>>>> 2

>>386473243
>gimmick satges suck
In your opinion.

>>386456689
>how the FUCK was anyone supposed to know?
cmon you are not that retarded... r-right?

>>386460920

Nigga see a doctor

>>386473891
Are you unironically asking that in /v/?

>>386456689
>How were you supposed to know
>How was anyone supposed to know
These should be bannable offenses.

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woah, haha it's me Crash. Your large marsupial friend.

>>386466319

In the originals, Crash 2 has the best OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ig-Hd8tczU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFZ1bww2Ou4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RCYAsOwh2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHvUNSJ48M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thr1xb9bv8g

>>386458276
>hit the ayy lmao sign by accident
>"HOLY SHIT WTF JUST HAPPENED"
>Its another jetski level
>"How the hell do I get out of here?"

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>>386467435

Very bad bait, I'm afraid. Try again next summer.

>>386466319

Even the warp room theme is better in 2.

Besides, half of the music in Crash 3 is just a duplicate of the main theme, which just feels lazy, and I don't even like the main theme that much.

The animal riding stages sucked in all three games dunno why they stayed around

>>386459869
>widescreen
What is this

>>386474996

It was this gimmick that NaughtyDog liked with uncontrollable forward momentum.

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I CAN'T GET FUCKING PAST THE ROAD TO NOWHERE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>386456689
Crash 2 final boss is one of the worst bosses I've ever seen.

>>386474505
get that shit out of my face and listen to this
https://soundcloud.com/joshmancell/sets/music-for-video-games-crash

all the pre-console mixes

>>386456689
>but some of the levels are gimmicky
there was two jetpack stages and polar stages. Meanwhile literally MORE THAN FUCKING HALF och crash 3 is gimmick levels.

>BULLSHIT secret zones
7 year old kids in the 90's figured them out easily without hints. You're not dumber than a 7 year old, are you?

2 = 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3

>>386475702
>momentum
Don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

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The "gimmick" levels are FUN.

>gimmick levels
Uhhhhhh... that's not Crash 3 though

>>386456804
>>386457005
>>386458105
Fucking morons.
When you beat the first level after getting the box gem, the box counter at the end of the level reads X / 0, a very clear hint at what you need to do to get the blue gem.

The nitro staircase to the purple gem was obvious as fuck. Oh look, a totally not suspicious at all staircase of nitros? Why the fuck would they place that there? Not to mention they don't bubble and bounce like every other nitro in the game. They're perfectly still.

The platform in the river level where you have to bounce across the boxes was obvious too. Most of these secrets to invoke basic critical thinking skills. Ominous platform that you clearly could reach if you bounced across those suspiciously placed boxes.

Those suspiciously placed ice platforms on the polar bear level that allow you to reach that suspiciously placed platform.

I figured out all the secrets as a kid without a guide because I had critical thinking skills, not surprised /v/ is mostly populated by low IQ plebeians. The only secret I'll give you is the one where you have to fall down the hole in Unbearable. To my knowledge there aren't any hints for that one. Yet I somehow discovered it as a kid.

>>386476183

Fuck you too, man.

>>386456689
>some of the levels are gimmicky
>3 better than 2
wut
>BULLSHIT secret zones, how the FUCK was anyone supposed to know?
figure it out fag, I did so when I was 9 or so

>>386476482
There's 3 unbroken planks on that hole in Unbearable.
I don't think any of the other holes on any other chase level have planks left over

>>386475808

Just gotta git gud

>>386476482
Yeah, this >>386476694

>>386461916
>the double jump barely works and only activates when you're in the middle of raising up from another jump
I swear this wasn't the case in the originals, I fucked up so many time time trials because of this

>>386456689
yeah, if it wasn't for the fact I had such as splitting headache that caused partial blindness, I wouldn't have ever found out Eggipus Rex in Crash 3 was a kid without a guide

Fuck you, the secret zones are fucking obvious and fun

Analog Stick or D-Pad?

I managed to beat all 3 games with the stick but I hear people saying the D-Pad is better. I can't play with the horrible playstation D-pad, it doesn't help at all with fast movement.

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>>386476031
>komodo bros. start
Why didn't they just use these for the remakes, most of the new tracks are worse than the originals

>>386476694
Either the first or 2nd Boulder level in 2 leaves planks

>>386477107
D-Pad for the 2D Sections, analog for everything else. The boulder levels in Crash 1 play so much better with the analog stick.

>>386477107
d-pad all the way
>horrible playstation D-pad
what wrong with it?

>>386462240
Only in the remake where all of the hazards fucking desync because it's such a poor immitation with better graphics

>>386477286
Boulder sections are a nightmare, you can't move fluidly without stopping your motion.

>>386456689
The only secret you'd say is cryptic as heck is Air Crash's inconspicuous platform. Bee-having's platform stands out in the original far more than in the remake, Bear Down's really obvious and Sewer Or Later's is the easiest to find (though I do admit it did take me a while to realize you can crouch while hanging as a kid.

Just take this (You) so you can postpone your suicide.

>>386477667
?
just tilt your thumb towards the direction you need without letting go of the down button

>>386477667

Uh, yes you can. I hope you know you can move diagonally with the D-pad.

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>>386477853

What's the hardest Crash shit to pull off and why is it Jaws of Darkness with secret stage?

>>386478134

That's Hangin' Out, not Sewer or Later.

>>386478508

Fucking hell, I hate how we still haven't had a Crash game where we can explore his world a bit more than a single narrow path. I've always wanted to explore that world.

>>386478637
Twinsanity fucktard.

>>386478538
but he's crouching while hanging in that picture, it doesn't matter what level it is, what matters is his plan.

>>386456689
You mean
1 > 2 > 3 as of N.sane
2 > 1 > 3 for originals

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>>386478962

No, that's a shit representation of Crash's world. They missed the mark so badly that they defunct after it.

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>>386479068
>what matters is his plan.

Imagine that in a aussie accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7juWGQza5c

>>386478420
That one level-with-suspended-boxes' gem.
It's towards the end and you need to jump on boxes in a way that won't make you skip any or you get cucked out of the gem.

>cold hard crash

will beat whoever made this level in to a bloody pulp with my bare hands if i find them

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>>386456804
>green gem on Eel Deal

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>crash 1
>better than anything
Crash 1 had the worst controls and level design of any platformer I've played in years. Take your fucking nostalgia goggles off for 5 minutes and smell the coffee, you retards. The 2nd half of the game is proves this more than anything.

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>>386477139
Josh Mancell did try to contact them but was ignored.
>There are many reasons why I haven't been discussing the N. Sane remakes publicly or privately. It's not because I'm angry or bitter. True, it's disappointing that my initial inquiries to Activision and Vicarious Visions were ignored... but here's what I posted a few months ago: "It’s a privilege to have been able to create and collaborate with the Naughty Dog team on the original games. My hope for the new games is that the original fans are happy and that a new generation of ‘Crash Kids’ will have just as much fun." .... that being said, I do have opinions about the *remade* Crash music (please stop referring to it as "remastered") Of course I have opinions (like everyone else) regarding music that's based on what I originally created and put a lot of thought and care into. There are many, many fan-made remakes and remixes that I REALLY like and have been vocal about. However, I'm reluctant to discuss the N. Sane remakes as many people are quick to unfairly box me in as being "negative". So again, I really want the new games to be great - especially for the new gamers who have never played the originals. Thanks for reading and thanks for the ongoing appreciation for the original CB soundtracks ))))

crash prototype>crash 1> crash 2>crash 3

3 has the
>le more mechanix = better gameplay
meme going on. 2 is just more barebones -> more quality in lvl design

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>>386480906
You're blind with nostalgia if you unironically think crash 3 is better than anything. Less than half of the game was platforming levels, and the few of them it had sucked. Overall the easiest crash game. I wouldn't be surprised if you could beat some of these "platforming" levels without jumping.

>>386456689
Crash 1 requires a leap of faith at one point to 100% it, nothing in Crash 2's secrets compare to that. Nice bait thread OP.

>>386479603
>things that didnt happen

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>>386483239

Traveller's Tales Oxford did in fact get axed.

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>>386483547
Not because the game was shit you monkey

>>386483918

But it was.

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>>386484489
I seem to recall alot of talk about rushed deadlines and basically the programmers being left for dead and having to work with low manpower and low resources, resulting in a poorer product but more importantly a poorer reputation. Its not quite cut and dry as 'shit game bye bye baby'

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>>386484772
never jpeg it again.

>>386456689
3>1>>>>2

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>>386484772

Probably not, but I hold a grudge against that entire team, because they scrapped their original idea, Crash Bandicoot Evolution, for something much, much worse, and that might even be part of the reason why they ran out of time and resources.

I don't like seeing honest hard working developers going out of business, but I'm relieved they didn't get to continue ruining Crash Bandicoot any further. Crash Twinsanity did enormous damage by itself.

>>386484942
>image does not contain text or logos
>recomends png anyway

How to spot a fucking idiot 101.

>>386476482
THANK YOU. This guy gets it.

>>386457005
my mom noticed that shit when she played the game
why didnt you?

The secret zones were awesome though. They were a reward for thinking outside the box and exploring, something Crash 3 didn't even bother with.

>wait, could I possibly go back to the bear?
>awesome, I can!

>>386485250
I can only recommend playing it again, once you get over the hump that it isnt a proper crash game it honestly isnt all that bad

plus goat soundtrack

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>>386485376