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>"only one person in the world can enter and leave the netherworld of his own volition - Demon Lord Odin"
>every playable character in the game does too
>and they do so with a help of some other NPC, not Odin
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>>386428805
>and they do so with a help of some other NPC
Then it isn't of their own volition, is it?
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>>386428805
>of his own volition
>they do so with a help of some other NPC

I'm not seeing a contradiction
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>>386428957
I mean they enter it while stile alive and not by, you know, DYING.
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>Nobody tries to fuck the Elf Queen or the Queen of the Dead
Ridiculous.
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Thy only had a few locations in the game. so they had to use every single one of them.
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>>386429136
They could've not make such a big deal out of Odin sneaking into the Netherworld for crystals, when every other magician can do so too apparently.
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>>386429204
>when every other magician can do so too apparently.
And the queen rapes them to death, they sent other people to hell to die.
Also Odin has his super secret way out that doesn't require meeting the queen.
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>This game FINALLY got a price drop
What the fuck took so long?
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>>386429272
Hm, I guess you have a point. They might know the way in, but they don't actually go in and out all the time.
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>>386429120
You know Odin plowed them, hard.
I wouldn't bbe surprised if he was Mercedes father what an incredibly shitty fate she got,
the worst of the bunch.
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>>386429538
That's what she gets for having the worst playstyle.
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>>386429637
This man is correct.
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>>386429637
I allways drop the game when I reach Mercedes.
Maybe i should get it for the Vita and play in short bursts so i don't get burned out so fast.
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>>386429637
She wouldn'ty be so awful if all her parts were shooting sections instead of getting just two, those were fun, no need to reload either.
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>>386429272
what is his way?
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>>386428957
>>386428974
"Of your own volition" means "willingly", not "under your own power"
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>>386431050
I'm on like second to last chapter and I don't remember any exclusively airborne stages. And I never fly unless I have to anyway. Because POW doesn't regen in air, and you can't reload or use items, and like half of the skills in the game can also only be used on the ground only.
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>>386431423
i remember a couple stages having shmup sections which was surprisingly fun
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>>386428805
Only the wise men know the way, Odin tricked them and stole the information. They hate him for getting played for fools.
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So much shit could have been avoided if they killed that old skeleton king. Every fucking character had ample opportunity to do so as well.
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>>386431994
Once Valentine got out of hell, it was all over. Ingway and Cornelius are the one who fucked it all up.
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>>386432175
>Ingway
Is there a reason this guy was such a huge fucking dick? Casting an irreversible curse on every person who looks at him or his sister funny.
Although I haven't finished all the stories yet, so no spoilers pls.
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>>386432393
An extreme case of butthurt and not fucking the loli willing to put out hard.
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>>386432393
Kinda, but he's a massive cock. Everything that goes wrong is wholey his fault.
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>>386432548
You CAN trace it all back to Odin being a huge cunt though, but there was a prophecy at play, it couldn't be avoided, big players knew their role in the story and played along.
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>>386432662
Odin tried to stop it, if he could hold the cauldron he could save at least Ragnanaval, he even made The Balor to stop the undead. But Ingway fucks all that up.
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>>386432446
You should wait for lolis to grow up before fucking them though.
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>best girl gwendolyn falls in love with shittiest character because some love potion shit

I hate this
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>>386431890
I really liked that bit emphasizing the real world's mythological Odin's wisdom/trickery aspect, in his rather brutish looking video game counterpart.
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>>386432887
The cauldron was an evil piece of shit and he wanted to nuke everything else with it.
There's literally no way it would have ended up better than if he hadn't touched it from Valentine.
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>>386432972
Love is love.
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>>386432972
She doesn't, there is no spell placed on her heart. Odin lies about that.
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>>386428805
Mercedes needed the Old fart wizard as a guide
Oswald was dragged in by Odettes cronies
Cornelis just woke up there. I can;t fucking remember why.

But I guess you have a point about the other two.
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>>386432972
Also best girl is the devil.
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>>386433120
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>>386433120
Really? I havent finished the game yet, but that would make it easier to stomach, even if I dont like Oswald much.
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>>386433168
Gwyndolin literally asks for help to the one guy who actually knows how and Velvet uses the guys Odin stole said info from.
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>>386428805
>every character in the game hypes up Oswald to be fearsome and invincible in combat
>get to his story
>he is the absolute worst playable character in the game

what did they mean by this
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>>386433067
Everyone asumes he wanted to nuke everything. His plan was to make weapons to stop Armageddon.
The fairies say no and go to war because they are born of phozons.
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>>386433251
>>he is the absolute worst playable character in the game
That's Mercedes, Oswald always in berserk mode with his skills is an asbolute rape machine.
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>>386433251
>he is the absolute worst playable character in the game
I haven't got to Oswald's story yet, but he can't be possibly any worse than Mercedes. I refuse to believe that.
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>>386433251
I got really tired of his gameplay as soon as I started and dropped the game. Stil havent gone back. I think I finally should, because Velvet looks interesting and I love her voice.
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>>386433251
His shadow form causes one organ to shut down each time he uses it. Its killing him quickly.
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>>386433328
Mercedes is the worst by far. Oswald is were fatigue sets in, but its very good.
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>>386433371
Miyuki is a goddess.
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>>386428805

So uh, is this game any good? Or is it a hit or miss kind of thing?

Anything I need to be aware of before I decide to buy it?
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>>386433328
You just need to control his speed in berserk mode, honestly, the guy just needed a longer reach, but fits him as it is.
Then you get actual air games with Velvet, her last boss is literally a the floor is lava test.
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>>386433516
If you're asking this you must not be familiar with Vanillaware.
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How is the other Vanillaware game Muramasa compared to this? Interested at getting it.
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>>386433563
Fuck.
I enjoyed juggling enemies with Gwendolyn, especially since she gets bonus damage on aerial attacks. But I honestly don't really like that sort of gameplay in action games. I played the entirety of Bayonetta on the ground, except that trial portals that had me stay in the air for fixed time.
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>>386433624
Muramasa is great.
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>>386433516
Very melodramatic, but increadible. The game is fantastic, and save the 3rd book its amazing.
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>>386433653
Using her chains and skills to stay in the air as much as you can is super fun, you won't be using much in the beginning, but it's her optimal gameplay.
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>>386433218
>shitting on the best character in the game
>hasn't even played his chapter
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>>386433568

Accurate, yeah. Never played any of them, but the aesthetic always looks so appealing.

>>386433730

I see. How's the gameplay? Is the combat challenging?
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>>386433624
Muramasa is wonderful and it can be pirated with all the dlc
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>>386432972
>it's another "waifufaggot is assmad because his waifu has a canon love interest" episode
>not even done with the game
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>>386433867
Combat is solid. Each of the 5 characters plays similarly enough that you can move from one to the next, but have their own uniqueness so it doesn't feel the same. Difficulty ranges from snore to ball busting but its always entertaining.
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>>386433796
Literally first person I see who thinks Oswald is best character
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>>386434012

Neat. Thanks.
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>>386434034
I perfer Gwendolyn, but Oswald is a very close second.
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Why is Mercedes so sexy?
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Game turns into trash when you get to play as Oswald.
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>>386434090
Voice.
Filty gypsy design (so you know she has to be pure until marriage).
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>>386434243
I think you're thinking of Velvet.
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>>386435451
Time for /buyfag/
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>>386429637
>just played through mercedes book
>she's my strongest character yet.
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>>386432972
not really.
it was actually pretty cool how she cucked odin.
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>>386436978
She does seem to have the highest single target DPS, but her crowd control sucks ass, and her overall playstyle and skills are quite awful.
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>>386437153
Her story is like 90% crying, and the only bad ass thing she does, helps doom the world with undead.
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>>386433796
>edgy mcedgerson
>retarded fighting style
nah, he's the literal worst and should have stayed dead
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>>386437680
>retarded fighting style
>in a game where a literal poledancing whore uses jewels on chains for weapons
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>>386437680
Oswald is singlehandedly made great simply because he helps Gwendolyn give Odin the finger
at every turn. Fuck Odin.
I liked his edgy powers and story too.
A lot different than I thought he was going to be,
but I suppose I should've expected that from vanillaware.
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>>386433624
The setting is made interesting thanks to Vanillaware's scenery porn magic. The soundtrack is great. The combat is good but compared to Odin Sphere it is a bit restrictive (can't dodge in air, guard break attack takes more time to charge up, etc).

I personally love all Vanillaware games but Muramasa is a bit weak for me, solely for the fact that it got really really heavy with back tracking. And that's saying a lot for a Vanillaware game.
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>>386437927
>>386433624
To add to this, Muramasa has incredible DLC that actually makes it feel fresh on repeated playthroughs. Lots of characters.
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>>386437680
I always love mad waifufaggots sperging over male characters in games like this.
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Leifthrasir would kick so much ass if it had some sort of co-op/arcade mode
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>>386434090
thighs
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>can play and replay DG with no problem
>find OS so boring i can't even finish Gwendolyn's book
What's wrong with me?
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>>386438601
You don't like fairytales, i guess
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>>386438240
Hopefully they'll port Dragon's Crown to PC and/or PS4 at least.
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>>386438505
>she was actually wearing shoes this whole time
My life is a lie.
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>>386438601
It's the "play" style the game uses for the stoytelling.
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>tfw after a hiatus from playing a game I finally complete the final book and get the bad end because I forgot the story

I mean it is neat you have a choice for bosses, but it felt kinda anti-climatic. Maybe I'll pick it up again someday, and do it right.
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>>386439741

Why not just redo the final book?
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>>386428805
Are all Vanillaware games this repetitive? At least the gameplay is fun in this one, Muramasa is just a chore to play, even on easy.
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>>386438505
What if Akihiko Yoshida and George Kamitani collaborated
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>>386439883
>Are all Vanillaware games this repetitive?
Sorta, yeah.
>Muramasa is just a chore to play, even on easy.
Or maybe it's BECAUSE you were playing on easy, you pussy.
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>>386439941
I only have a lifetime reserve of cum. I'd need more than that.
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>>386439961
No I was playing on hard for 3 hours and I got by, but it didn't feel worth it because the gameplay isn't fun. I've picked it up again after 2 years but only on the condition that I speed through it on easy to get my money's worth. The graphics still wow me but the gameplay is just ass.
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>>386439941
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>>386437458
>goes from whiny spoiled bitch to taking matters to her own hands, one-upping Odin & becoming worthy leader of the nation even if it was short lived

she was great
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>>386439741
My memory is hazy but I think it's Mercedes vs Onyx because muh Ironic fairy names and Oswald fights Zombie King Gallon or whatever his name was since He's the bastard son of Gallon's exiled son

You can probably guess the rest.
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>>386429637
edgelord has the worst playstyle
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>>386440261
>he disliked berserk
pleb taste
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>>386440669
t. pleb
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>>386429637
Fuck you I found her more fun to use than Oswald.
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>>386441851
Everyone is better than Oswald

>30 seconds of damage you could do with a Power Potion leading to another 30 seconds of Oswald dying of a heart attack afterwards
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>>386432936
>You should wait for lolis to grow up before fucking them though.
Pleb taste, you should fuck her through all ages, from loli to MILF.
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>>386433947
>pirating George's games that are still in print

Nah, get fucked.
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Excellent dub, one fo the best I have ever heard.
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>currently replaying Muramasa on Fury mode
>that fucking 100 Monks trial

FUCK YOU GEORGE
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>>386442169
>100 Monks trial
HA
Tengu Storm is even worse
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>>386442169
How2Muramasa
>pick weapons based on their special attack animation length, not just the highest attack value
>stock up on the items that give you infinite special attack gauge
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Don't mind me, I'm just gonna put a bunch of fire and ice spirits everywhere and put up ice tornados
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So when the FUCK is Muramasa coming to PS4?
And why the FUCK haven't we seen more of Aegis Rim?
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>>386442331
Rebirth was only done because George wanted to see how his art would look on the Vita's OLED screen.

You do raise a good point about 13 Sentinels though. Totally bizarre that its E3 trailer was quite literally just its original TGS reveal trailer from 2 years prior with about 5 seconds of new footage.
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>>386442424
Is this true Vanillaware have like no programmers and majority of the studio employees are all artists?
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>>386442236
Nothing makes me as limp as quick as those two, I'll fight any boss again before those
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I wish we got to play Jinkuro in his real body.
If he can do this crazy shit as a frail girl, imagine what a motherfucker he was in a body of a grown-up man.
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>>386442648
I'm glad he stabbed Momo though. If that didn't happen we'd never get to hear Miyuki Sawashiro do her boyish voice for the majority of the game.
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Why do people seem to like DC more than the others? Is it just the multiplayer? Seems so clunky and dry compared to OS and 'masa
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>>386443259
Haven't actually played DC, but I assume it's mostly because of the multiplayer, but also because it's not as story heavy is a bit closer to classic D&D murderhobos adventures.
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>>386442528
Dunno, but I remember as of the Odin Sphere pseudo-remake, they only had a personnel base of about 40 people. A few of those are no doubt admin people not actually involved on the development side of things, so they're not exactly swimming in manpower.
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