Apparently Sony seem to be considering throwing money into their

Something with interesting gameplay.

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I'd buy a PS4 for Legend of Dragoon 2.

Wild Arms reboot with a more spaghetti western style. Also, get the rights to use the dollar's trilogy soundtrack, since all of those songs have been ripped off by the WA games already

>>386404991
Is Breath of Fire a Sony property? I want to see Garr again ;_;

>>386404991
Dark Cloud 3! I know that Sony has had a downer on their own JRPGs for years cause WKC2 bombed, but fuck, that was because the game was shit, not because people have given up on the genre.

>>386405459
That's a Capcom one, I'm afraid.

Fuck that, give us Tomba! 3, a 3D platformer with role playing elements

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>>386405459
Capcom, and they already sent Breath of Fire 6 off to die on mobile. The dream is dead, anon. We can only mourn.

>>386405825
>>386405459
Fuck

>>386404991
Wild ARMs if it's not gonna be mobage.

3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4

Not sure how to rank XF because I really like it but it's a SRPG.

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>>386404991
Not really a JRPG in the traditional sense, but make a new SS! Inafune works for Level 5 now, so I'm sure they'd be happy to help out.

>>386404991
Source your ass

>>386406236
>Wild ARMs if it's not gonna be mobage.

Yoshida's quote in the OP was in response to a Famitsu Q&A panel where a fan asked him something to the effect of "If Wild Arms and Arc the Lad still exist as mobile games, any chance of new console instalments?"

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>>386404991
You can almost feel the absolute desperation from Sony trying to take the Japanese audience back.

>>386406415
http://www.dualshockers.com/sony-jrpg-japan-studio/

>>386406309
This. In my opinion Delta is one of the greatest games of all time.

I miss Wild Arms. Though I honestly stand confused why the Ronin + Gunslinger dynamic from the first game didn't really explode in the sequels.

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Are Camelot actually owned by Nintendo now?

I don't see why they would expect a wild west rpg to be exclusively popular in Japan and not have success anywhere else

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You think they are going to get the original WA director to be back on a new WA game?

Or is he too busy with anime?

>>386407872
He's currently working on that Wild Arms mobile game ;_;.

I don't care about Arc the Lad or Wild Arms.

Tell me about Legend of Dragoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39prpyOKCUE

>>386404991
Sony buys Suikoden franchise from Konami, gather the whole team back and make the final Suikoden.

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>>386405180
I'd buy a PS4 for a Legend of Dragoon remake

>>386404991
Not gonna happen. They did some buggy as fuck ports of old Ps2 games and that was it. They'll just keep pumping their movie garbage.

I loved the first legend of legaia but heard the second one wasn't so great. I'm hoping for a legaia 3 or a new IP with an interesting turn based mechanic.

Didn't they already confirm a new wild arms for ps4 like a year ago

What are Sony's JRPG IPs?

Wild Arms
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Arc the Lad
Beyond the Beyond
Okage
Folklore
Alundra (Sony owns it, right?)
Granstream Saga (Sony owns it, right?)
Level-5's stuff like Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, & White Knight Chronicles (Sony owns this, right?)

thousand arms was better

>>386404991
is front mission sony?
either way id love a new front mission

Dark Cloud 3 would destroy me

>>386411573
A new game by the original team is in development, but it's mobile-only.

>>386411672
Yeah, Sony own the Level-5 stuff done under them. They also own the Monster Kingdom IP, which was their attempt at getting on board a monster collecting JRPG for the PSP. It was crated by ex-SMT personnel, but tanked and waas ubsequently abandoned. Original, that and Folklore was intended to be part of the same IP, but the premise was scrapped.

>>386411943
Front Mission is SE.

>>386411943
Front Mission is Square and the games alternated Nintendo and Sony consoles.

>>386404991
FREEDOM WARS 2!
MAKE IT FUCKING HAPPEN ON PS4!
I WANT MY ROBOT WAIFU DAMMIT!

Legend of Dragoon was not THAT good. It was generic as fuck, except for its battle system. The voice was probably some of the worst i had ever heard.

>>386406515
But Sony already has the Jap market. DQ11 sold 1.4 million units on PS4 making it the highest selling DQ game in Japan.

>>386411672
White Knight Chronicles was fucking garbage

Ape Escape 4 I can see getting made. It wouldn't be a huge game like Wild Arms.

SONY WON

>>386412174
I know about the mobile wild arms game but i think there is one in development for ps4

A few months ago sony was hiring for a ps4 rpg that "blends sci-fi with wild west"

I've always wondered why a Japanese company owns multiple worldwide studios but only one Japanese studio.

>>386412364
the second one was better than the first

>>386406829
Soul Sac is a rare treat that deserves to be more well known. It's like a fast paced phantom dust but hella metal.

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>>386412305
>The voice was probably some of the worst i had ever heard

>>386407574
They rehash Mario Golf games for them, so they are with them to some capacity

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>>386406236
>Ranking 1 that low
>Ranking 5 that high

>>386412732
First I'd heard of it, honestly. You have a link to the job description or anything?

>>386412353
>DQ11 sold 1.4 million units on PS4 making it the highest selling DQ game in Japan.
1.4 was the 3DS version, PS4 was around 950k.

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>>386404991
>Sony begs Level 5 to come back and usher in another golden age of JRPG's similar to the PS2 Era starting with Dark Cloud 3

>>386412889
Damn, that Meat Fruit got fucked.

>>386412787
Shit on top of shit still makes it shit

>>386412918
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/03/15/wild-arms-6-ps4-new-evidence-rumor/

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>>386413270
Oh shit. Thanks senpai!

>>386412783
Japan Studio has Multiple teams in it that work internally (Gravity Rush, Knack, TLG) and external (Bloodborne, Nioh, Soul Sacrifice). GT has their own studio Polyphony Digital which is not part of Japan studio.

>>386413045

That the fucking dream

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It's time for the Cleopatra spiritual sequel.

>>386404991
chrono trigger

>>386404991
Literally just give Level 5 a budget to do whatever they want and it will probably turn out good

D A R K C L O U D 3
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>>386413819
They are busy with ni no kuni 2

>>386404991

Third for Legend of Dragoon

>>386404991
Sure they are, just like how they promised Japanese games would be well represented in E3

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>>386411672
Suikoden has remained exclusive except for one shitty spinoff

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>>386407574
>I thought I was the only one who remembered that game

Bless you anon. It doesn't deserve to be considered one of the worst RPGs

>>386404991
>legend
>of
>dragoon

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>>386408078
So the series is considered dead then. Everything I love dies

>>386414353
Not necessarily, at least according to >>386413270

>>386404991
The fuck is this? A JRPG for Ireland?

>>386411546
The second one is objectively better but it lost a lot of the charm and doesn't have a better story or characters.

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>>386414502
:^)

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>>386411672
>Sony owns Legend of Legaia and Beyond the Beyond
>tfw Azure Dreams is owned by Konami

>>386412983
that was in the first day, apperently dq ps4 version sold more than the 3ds one according to a thread made earlier today, the game also sold a shitload of units in japan.

>Sony buying Funimations (Now owns the dub rights to shit like Dragonball and One Piece and a shitload of other anime propertys)
>Getting back into JRPGs since anime shit is popular in the west again.

If anything I hope it leads to more localizations of anime tie in games that never get released outside of Japan

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>>386414480
Jesus let it be true

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>>386414963
>If anything I hope it leads to more localizations of anime tie in games that never get released outside of Japan

or Asian English releases. Like what SRW V and Moon Dwellers got

>>386414797
It's Dragon Quest of course the Japanese bought it. I hope DQ7 and DQ8 did well enough here in the states

Make Wild Arms and take settlement building mini game from Dark Cloud

>>386414797
>according to one thread
ard to belive

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Oh my god, please be wild arms 6

The whole "no appeal in the west" thing has always been a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even when the narrative about what westerners are willing to buy gets contradicted by successes like DQ, it's really stubborn.

Westerners actually do like anime, but what westerners aren't willing to stomach are low budget games with mediocre gameplay in the name of cute girls. That's why Shinovi and Neptunia saw initial success (people wanted the cute girls) but then tapered off (people wanted good gameplay to go with those cute girls). That's also why people ate up Nier Automata, which had 2B and good gameplay.

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>>386404991
>due to the soaring of development costs

maybe they could just, I don't know, not spend eleventy billion dollars on their titles.

>inb4 "no one will buy it then!"

two words: mine craft

>>386415723
Hard to make an 80 hour game in the HD era and not spend eleventy billion dollars

And the audience wants 80 hour games so...

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>>386411672
Dark Cloud 3 WHEN

>>386415924
why?

>>386405180
Came here to post this.
I'm surprised it took Sony this long. RPG is an appropriate genre for muh cinematix.

>>386404991
Legend of Legaia is only correct answer

>>386415119
what's shinji doing in demon space

>>386414107
They never owned the Suikoden IP, though. It's Konami.

>>386406515
What else is there for them to conquer?

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>>386416468
piloting the EVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4Z833om8M

>>386416553
you show em, boy

FGO is doing so well for Sony Music/Aniplex, they might as well do a AAA Fate/ JRPG

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>>386404991
>"JRPGS are niche and will never sell well!"
>JRPG is released and it receives universal praise
>sells well
seriously, who isn't fucking shocked? i mean, what the fuck is a fucking "persona"?

>>386414963

Anime was never not popular in the west, though. It went something like this-

>initial efforts to bring traditional JRPGs into the HD era were really mediocre (Blue Dragon) and, as a result, didn't do that great; hardly came bursting through the gates with a new FFVII-tier title that could actually test the waters
>on anime itself, market was painfully slow in adapting to the internet and lost to piracy
>FPS and WRPGs advertised heavily and did amazingly well
>Retarded conclusion: The west isn't willing to buy anything other than FPS and WRPGs.

>>386411672

is the ps2 arc the lad games good?

>the only western rpg is made in japan
>the japs don't even think it has western appeal
why did this happen?

>>386416905

Also, JRPG fans weren't interested in the 360, which they saw as the FPS dudebro console. That was another fatal mistep.

>>386411672
I game like Folklore would be nice.

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>>386404991
Legend of Dragoon
Wild ARMs
Chrono "X"
Suikoden (FucKonami)
Shadow Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Dark Cloud
Parasite Eve (that retcons 3rd Birthday entirely)
Legaia (even though 2 was borderline shit)
Alundra (even though 2 WAS shit)
Grandia (so long as it was akin to 1 or 2 and NOT 3 or Xtreme)
Threads of Fate
Vagrant Story
Thousand Arms
Magna Carta
Musashi
Rogue Galaxy (just plain needs a remake with a lot of the extras (weapon, robot lab, etc.) streamlined)

>>386412889
No, that's about right. 1 was great, but it had severe pacing and story issues, and the music is memorable only because it repeated every 30 seconds. 5 was fucking fantastic, but just not quite as great as 3. 2 would've been higher if the translation/localization hadn't been such a fucked-up mess.

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>>386416940
>have to fight tooth and nail to get xenoblade, a game already translated, in the US
>Nintendo: "oh, you want THIS? well, alright..... I guess."

I don't get it man.

>>386417170
>chrono

nah, trigger didn't even need a sequel. that doesn't make any sense.

>>386416858
I know right? The fuck is a po gey man?

>>386404991
>That being said, recently Japanese studios’ games developed for Japanese gamers have received high praise overseas.
Which titles are those again? I don't remember them ever releasing something praiseworthy ever since the first Gravity Rush and Freedom Wars.

>>386419117
They're talking about Japan in general getting a decent number of good games under their belt this year that sold very well. Nioh, Persona 5, Nier Automata etc.

One alundra for table 6 please.

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>>386405825
BoF/DMC artist did a character for Gravity Rush DLC.

>>386405973
At least we got Breath of Fire V out of the franchise before it kicked the bucket. Love it or hate it, at least Capcom was willing to try something unique rather than rehashing the same JRPG formula for a fifth time.

>>386404991
I'll take followups to Legend of Dragoon, Wild ARMS and a proper Alundra sequel, please.

>>386417542
NoA is incredibly lazy and can't be asked to do shit unless its for kids. Look how hard they jumped to support that Yokai Watch trash while they did fuck all for xenoblades for years.

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>>386404991
Maybe they can start by making a good jrpg.

None of the games jrpgs they were ever involved in were actually good. I would rather see a new IP then make a sequel to a mediocre one.

>>386417170
Mate, I hate to break this to you, but a shitload of those titles are third-party properties. Offhand only Legend of Dragoon, Wild ARMs, Dark Cloud, Legaia, Alundra, and Rogue Galaxy are owned by Sony.

Chrono, Valkyrie Profile, Parasite Eve, Threads of Fate, Vagrant Story, and Musashi are all SquareEnix. Suikoden is Konami's baby. The Shadow Hearts company is stuck doing Senran Kagura, while the Thousand Arms company is doing Visual Novels for some Chinese firm. Softmax might be working on Magna Carta 3, but the last game they released was in 2009, so good luck with that one.

>>386415723
> Release a console with teraflops of compute power
> Market the hell out of that compute power
> Most game studios end up using only 25% of it to keep development budget in check and focus on other elements besides "muh graphixx"
> Only 3-4 titles actually pushed the console's power to the limit
When the next generation comes around and advertises hundreds of teraflops, people will start asking "what's the point?"

>>386420971
>people will start asking "what's the point"?
You could probably get a read on this by seeing how many actually went out and bought a PS4 pro or are going to buy that new Xbox One X.

The only reason people buy new consoles is for the games they have or the games their friends have, no one ultimately cares if one or the other has 2 second faster loading screens or slightly better frame rate

>>386404991
>Sony
Anon, don't get your hopes up. Sony is a bunch of retards, they'd likely just re-release the games on PSN.

The only devs I'd trust Alundra to is Monolith Soft and they're Nintendo's bitch.

>>386404991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRv1qR6rVw

>>386413984
and ni no kuni 2 is coming to PC, which is just ridiculous, it's a first for a ghibli style on PC

>>386425783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l9sssFJcxI

>>386404991
Sauce on this statement?

I hate to sound jaded but let's face it, that statement should be interpreted as this:

"Look forward to more SIE titles as mobile games by Forward Works, guys."

>>386404991
I really don't understand what's so hard about jrpgs.
Just have an underage hero, a village burning down, a cute love interest and pick a bunch of stereotypes as party member.
Also make sure the final boss is god or some shit, I mean just look at Xenoblade, shit is a generic JRPG from start to end.

>>386404991
I would love some decent budget first party JRPGs. As long as they focus on more classic ones and not trying to copy the abortion that is FF15, it could be downright solid.

>>386429558
Mobile gaming and gatchas are cancer incarnated.

Unrelated, but Xenogears remake please

>>386429858
This is one of those things I'll want until the day I die but will never ever get.

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>>386420839
People also tend to think their fan favorite games did well financially by default or that there's any motivation for creators to work on more games in the franchise.

>>386404991
>investment has been mainly focused on titles which could be hits on a global scale.

This is what I don't like about current Sony.
>MUH CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE

>>386420839
Even if they are owned, at least dark cloud and rogue galaxy were done by level 5, who, unfortunately, havent made a genuinely good game in a long time.

>>386429616
Budget and potential audience. Unless you're one of the big franchises that can actually move copies you need a lower budget which in turn won't get enough people interested. Why do you think JRPGs effectively moved to portables during last gen?

Final Fantasy Tactics 2, you niggot faggers.

>>386430109
I don't care what anyone says. I loved FFTA2. My ONLY complaint about that game was that your MC didn't get a neat unique class or skills. Why Adele was the one that got the super secret special class is something I don't know, but at least she was cute I guess.

Why not a new Rogue Galaxy?

>>386411672
>Ganstream Saga
technically, Sony just published it in Jap and EU (THQ handled NA publishing). developed by the Quintet guys, the ones responsible for the Heaven and Earth and series (Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma).

I want my Terranigma spiritual successor.

>>386416858
It's a more case of Japanese publishers not realizing these aren't the '90s anymore and everything has an audience.

>>386416858
The main thing is these companies want to make massive games that sell 10 million copies and 40 bucks worth of DLC 10 million times each. They don't see the point in investing into a game that will sell a combined 500k copies between the east and west with a few costume packs being the only DLC.

Which is unfortunate because you can make just as much money making a dozen of those as you can investing the cost of making those dozen games into some massive blockbuster. And those dozen games aren't nearly as big a financial risk either.

Legend of Dragoon 2 ?
I mean didn't the first game do pretty damn well, why did they sack the IP ? They didn't want FF to have more competition ?

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Dark Cloud 3 please
might not be Sony but I still with for a sequel to this

>>386416926
Twilight of spirit is pretty alright, the demon chapters are decently written.
End of darkness is a complete garbage action game that was online focused and the servers taken offline after 6 months of release.

>>386430508
But anon, blockbuster looks a lot better on quarterly financial reports. After all projects get approved entirely based on how well project leads can convince the financial department they're viable.

>>386414797
LMAO the 3ds one is confirmed to be selling more, how delusional can you get?

>>386430508
It's not a linear thing. Studios right now have massive teams for asset creation. If they switched over from AAA budgets to A budgets they'd need a massive reorganisation. Suddenly they'd need more designers and programmers than artists.
Much safer to keep making AAA blockbusters. Nintendo is really the only company that was big enough to make that switch.

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>Free avatars on PSN are a bunch of old JRPG characters nobody recognizes
>Now Sony wants to make those games again

Why were they even avatars to begin with if they werent very recognizable

>>386430769
Safer?

They have 2-3 flops and they lose hundreds of millions of dollars. How is that safe?

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>>386404991
>What would you like to see come back?

Alundra and Wild Arms are the only worthwhile ones.

they should just churn out a bunch of ps1 tier jrpgs for cheap.

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>>386430941
Because they sure as fuck aren't trying many new things AND flops aren't nearly as common as people think. Problem is more with manpower because you need X number of people to realize a project of certain size, people that could be spread over multiple smaller projects. There's also a matter one already brought of fighting to get your project approved in the first place and I'm sure there are untold stories of excellent games that never got off the ground. For example, people wonder how Yoko Taro keeps getting his projects greenlit.

>>386430070
Level-5 is at least in no danger of going bankrupt and they're clearly just making money on Yo-kai Watch so they can create games they really want to make.

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Alundra is easily one of my favourite games from the PS1 era, would be incredible if Japan Studio did a full on remake or sequel on PS4. A man can dream.

Dark Cloud, Grandia, Folklore, Legend Of Dragoon and Wild Arms would be great also. Playstation has such a rich history of great JRPG's, it would be a shame if this wasn't continued.

>>386429990
>that there's any motivation for creators to work on more games in the franchise.

This is actually a really good point people tend to completely ignore because they look at games from a consumer's standpoint - maybe creator is content with what he has made and doesn't want anything else. When companies and people push for it you get Chrono Cross, for example.

>>386429425
>>386406571

>>386430576
Yoshida confirmed a while back that a sequel was in pre-production with the aim of getting it out fairly early into the PS2's lifespan, but it was cancelled after the board had second thoughts. iirc, the first game set some kind of record at the time for having the highest development budget of a JRPG up to that point.

>>386431586
Yeah. 16 million US dollars for a PS1 JRPG was something.

>>386431586
LoD's biggest problem was timing. It was released way too late into PS1's lifespan when PS2 was already looming on the horizon. For god's sake, it was released in 2001 in PAL territories.

>Sony notices jRPGs taking Steam by storm and making a lot of money
>"NO, COME BACK!"

Sqeenix already noticed that when they tried to set up a new dev studio who made the I Am Setsuna game and made the jrpg equivalent of nostalgiabait. I don't think Sqeenix killed them so hopefully that dev gets on their own legs and can do something more than devbabby's first basic "Escort the Miko" which was too short and too geared towards "REMEMBER WHEN FINAL FANTASY/TALES OF/GRANDIA/CHRONO TRIGGER DID THAT?"

>>386431778
Whats the last AAA JRPG that came out on Steam?

Falcom isnt AAA

>>386431778
You know the market is booming when even porn companies make translated SFW versions to sell.

>>386431778

I'd love it if this were true, but it's less "PS4 is getting stomped by PC" and more "PC is a growing market that's gone from irrelevant-tier to the secondary consideration-tier". Which is probably going to remain the case until PC players stop excusing the double dipping tactics by buying the PS4 version.

Right now, PS4 is still king.

I would love a new Alundra, but not gonna happen since the series aren't that famous to begin with and it was made by Matrix Studio and Psygnosis and not Japan Studio even if Sony has the rights.

Also people would complain siince its basically Playstation Zelda.

I would love a new Tomba!, The Legend of Dragoon or Wild Arms tho, I think Sony Japan is the best studio Sony has.

>>386432318

Seriously, if you prefer PC gaming, don't buy the title for anything else if there's any chance that it might come out on PC later.

Yes, this will mean that you you're going to be playing games later FOR NOW. However, in the long term, it will force them to stop the double dipping and the sometimes shoddy releases. It'll also encourage people to switch to PC, as they'll see the PC gaming crowd having fun with mods and better graphics.

>>386404991
>Sony realizes that great games actually sell well and they don't have to be the last of us clones
They're so fucking stupid.

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The IP's probably long dead (I know that Sony shot down a pitched PSP sequel due to lack of commercial interest in the IP), but Folklore is something I'd love to see back one day in the hands of a competent developer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6pQLkZSdY

Is it going to be funded by sony of cuckmerica? Looking forward to the first muh diverse JRPG.

I know it's on Square, but I'd like a new high-budget SaGa.

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Can Level-5 hurry up and make Dark Cloud 3 already? Ni no Kuni is boring garbage, people only played that to wank over Ghibli art and Hizashi music

also only autistic japs care about their 500 inazuma soccer and mobage trash

>>386412826
Felt like a shit MonHun clone to me, but the writing and English VAs were 11/10, and I can only pray SS2 would be just as great.

>>386431778
>I don't think Sqeenix killed them
They're making another game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf1c2HQFsmU

>>386433478
looks pretty cool

>>386433262
fuck you. ni no kuni was great.

>>386404991
Legend of Dragoon legit needs a remake. It had a lot of good lore, good battle system, and a varied cast, but the storytelling itself did not age well.
Better tuned script and overall pacing could make it a more timeless classic.

>>386434436
Yes, as I replay through it (like over the last week) it's hilarious how horrible a lot of the translation is
It's so engrish sometimes, it's laughable
I should have been taking pictures.
But so many lines have just super awkward ways of conveying their message, there's no way English was anybody's fist language

maybe they can ask Konami to revive Suikoden

>>386435639
Or sell the franchise off to someone who gives a fuck.

Maybe Konami can pull off a playtonic but in a way that let's the original devs keep the franchise

All I want is another FFT game, I need it badly.

>>386404991
They should buy Tri Ace
Wild Arms guy is busy on better things.

>>386432862
>Wild Arms 6 becomes a cinematic, realistic reboot with last of us style graphics set in the wild west with Destiny style loot grind for weapons and Final Fantasy XV with the main characters being played by Nolan North and Troy Baker in the west. Also with QTE's.

Book it. Welcome to Neo-Sony Interactive Entertainment.

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>>386416858
Japanese companies higher ups are a bunch of old fucks who have no idea about the market and demand ridiculous sales targets (see TR2013) and aren't willing to take risks, they need to hurry up and die, since when is a game selling over a million copies considerd a failure ?

>>386414963
Anime is growing in America pretty fast now. I think Sony is trying to jump on board so they can reap the profits in 5 years or so when most airing anime gets simuldubs or some shit. Probably means more mediocre anime games tho I guess.

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>>386423987
Matrix software the makers of Alundra are still alive you know.

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>>386436816
>look at recent games
>omega labyrinth
>hey thats pretty cool i guess
>read more of the list
>Final Fantasy remakes for mobile
eh

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>>386430624
Bless you anon Radiata Stories was such a unique JRPG, but how do you make a sequal to it? Both endings are grim even the supposedly "good" ending, Human path FTW.

>>386437354
Is this the game where you can kick everything?

>>386436508
Since westacuck devs memed their AAA trash?
Do you seriously think a game like Tomb Raider would break even with only a million copies?
If Uncherted start selling only a million the entire ND studio would die the next day.

Asking more than 1 million copies for a game developped by well over 300 peoples during 3+ years development isn't "ridiculous"

There's a reason why Square wasn't happy with TR's sales and WAS very happy with Nier's sales. Hmm, now I wonder why.

>>386437440
Yes. I liked it too. Damn good that shit.

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>>386437440
>>386437591

>>386436951
I wonder how can they go from the amazing 2D game that Alundra was to the FF mobile remakes, lack of budget?

>>386438145
Loss of key personnel, maybe?

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just give me Dark Cloud 3 and a new Wild Arms

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I'd be pretty exited if a new wild arms game was announced

>>386404991
They need to cover their asses when FF7 remake inevitably fails.

>>386404991
They should make a new JRPG in the style of Legaia/Dragoon. I don't care if it's not turn-based.

>>386431657
That's nothing, FF7 had a $40 million USD development budget, and marketing budget over twice that.

>>386439367
It won't fail, it will sell millions on the name alone regardless of the quality.

>>386439738
The expectations are way higher than anything else SE has made in the last decade, and it has to keep up to sell the 2 other discs. If they fuck up the first one, no one is going to bother buying the other two.

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>>386404991
SONY is fucking CANCER. Now that DQ11 sold like 3 million copies in a few days, SONY considers re-entering the JRPG market with their shovelware RPG's. I swear this company has as much integrity as a Bloated Labrador gazing lovingly at any potential food source.

DON"T FUCKING FEED THEM /v/ OR THEY WILL NEVER GO AWAY.

And apparently they drink bottled piss too for breakfast.

>>386421464
>seeing how many actually went out and bought a PS4 pro or are going to buy that new Xbox One X
The problem there is that neither were new consoles, just beefed up versions of existing ones. Exclusives may not drive console sales any more, but generational exclusives do need to exist to some extent to justify buying a new console. People may not care which platform they're using, but the platform does have to have what they want. Not that this gen started off terribly well there. But there still has to be a shifting, even gradually, to generational exclusives by some point. If there isn't, people aren't going to bother. Only the enthusiasts will, everyone is just looking for their game box what will play their games.

>>386404991
I wonder if that is the reason they haven't said a word about that wild arms mobile game. It's been about a year already.

>>386416261
Because JRPGs have a reputation of having at least an interesting story with massive amounts of side content. Everyone has the expectation of at least 60-100 hours for JRPGs nowadays and if you're not hitting that point it's a waste of money, but to add to it further it also has to look modern or at least be up to modern standards. But this can still be done on a budget, we see it all the time on Vita, the problem is the Vita isn't even remotely comparable to newer machines so they don't have to spend hours with textures and performance comparatively.

>>386440385
Fingers crossed.

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>>386420839
>The Shadow Hearts company is stuck doing Senran Kagura

>mfw it's true

At least for a fragment of Nautilus. This hurts me to hear.

I would have killed for more games sticking history, dark humor, potty humor, and demons and shit into a blender. I get that 1+2 were for Yuri and FTNW was the spin-off that didn't do that well, but at its core Shadow Hearts had a winning formula that has yet to be matched for me.

>>386429990

I understand that this is the reality of things, but I can't help but be bootyblasted that the hoi polloi weren't charmed by the same shit I was.

>>386430756
Pfft. The 3DS is a dead platform, Nintenbro.

The PS4 version is going to be the best selling version overall. I'd say it's going to easily outpace the 3DS and Switch versions COMBINED.

>>386443346
not him, and i know you're trolling, but before anyone else goes for this please bear in mind squeenix only care about sales in nippon, where 97% of the population owns a 3ds

>>386441120
>but to add to it further it also has to look modern or at least be up to modern standards
Not really. Plenty of cheap-ass-looking JRPGs still sell perfectly well. Nobody who plays JRPGs expects them to look anywhere near as fancy as modern triple A western titles.

>>386440013
They aren't going to make them anyway. The second Naughty Dog releases their next mediocre game that somehow gets praised as the best thing ever, they'll forget they ever though of trying to make another RPG.

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>>386415497
Sorry but S5 is confirmed so the director for wild arms will be pushing this shitty character for at least 3 more years.

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>>386404991
Forbidden Siren 3 pls

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>>386445306
Don't bully Maria.

Aren't the people who created Wild Arms too busy doing that one lesbian anime?

>>386445616
They just mash a bunch of plot points from their games together and call it anime.

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>>386445616
Yuri* anime.

If Sony really wants to attract the JRPG fans, then the first thing they have to do is to make sure that devs don't release their shit on STEAM.

>>386446215
>this game looks fun but it's released on a platform I hate so I'm not going to buy it on a platform I like
How is it possible to be this much of a faggot and not already have committed suicide?

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>>386445615
>literally ruined the last episode
I will bully the Maria.

>>386432318
This, every single word.

>>386446140
I don't know what this but is it actually yuri and worth my time or is it one of those slice of life/harem anime with yuri undertones?

>>386414257
yes it does.

>>386445615
God I fucking hate Maria. I wish she would put a bullet in her brain.

>>386414353
that man, all he wants to do is talk about ass and pussy at work, and will never ever.

>>386449061
Watch this
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37t6vd

>>386449309
>/v/ hate Maria
I shouldn't have expected any less

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>>386449927
She's fucking useless and gets people killed all the time.

>>386450046
She just saved the entire school

>>386437354
That was Tri-Ace.

And outside of the art style it's pretty shite.

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>>386450131
People still die because of her.

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Gaybies redeemed last episode.

>>386404991
Do Legend of Dragoon. NOW.

Update everything. Make it all HD. Improve Addition system, make them changable in battle. Give better Dragoon abilities. Give better magics. Update Musical Score. Make magic cutscenes faster. MAKE LLOYD A PARTY MEMBER!!!!!!!!!!

DO IT. NOW. I promise I'll buy it.

>>386450740
No you won't

>>386450740
>QTE the combat system
Legend of Dragoon was shit.

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>>386405180
OH GOD PLEASE LET IT HAPPEN.
This was my favorite game as a kid. There is NOTHING to lose artistically by making a LoD 2, please sweet jesus let this happen.
Additions are literally the best mechanic in any JRPG ever and I would sacrifice every one of you to get another game with them.

>>386450816
Yes I will.

>>386450859
You should the fuck up. It was just amazing. I guess they can add automation option after doing it perfectly the first time for casuls like you.

>>386450740
Dude why do we need a remake? Just make a new game. It can be in a whole new world if they want. Remakes are gay, I'd rather a spiritual successor with Additions, Dragoons, more Moon shit, etc.
Tbh tho im not sure how much new lore they could add in a sequel set in the same world. They pretty much blew their load totally on the original. Which is great, the game had sick lore.
Well w/e I still want a sequel.

>>386451163
That's fine too. I just want a new Dragoon game.

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>>386451618
Agreed.

>>386451163
i'd rather they do a remake with updated visuals and fix up some translations then botch the IP with a new game like what they did with golden sun

>>386404991
A new arc the lad with similar quality to the ps2 game. Ive played every ps1 arc the lad, they are pretty dated. Legend of dragoon 2 would also be cool. Wild Arms 2 was my favorite wild arms, so that would be cool. I thought Legend Of Legaia was owned by sony. Imagine a third one in the style of 1.

>>386449224
no it doesn't, if you actually played the game you'd know that its just a run of the mill mediocre RPG, it got the title of worst RPG because it was vastly overshadowed by FF7 which was the killer app of the system. People just hated BtB because it was one of the first 3D capable consoles and BtB was 2D shit, normies are extremely shallow and retarded.

It's just bad timing, if this hadn't been the first real RPG on the system then no one would care or call it the worst RPG of all time, first impressions are everything

Also fucking golden sun isn't much different from BtB gameplay wise, it added some improvements but mostly is just a better paced version of BtB, and everyone loves those games, even though they are mediocre as well.

>>386411785
>Meis, would you love me even if I were a man?

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>>386445529
That moment was genuinely horrifying. Siren 2 really perfected this "phototextures for faces" technique.

>>386452502
all i remember from BtB was it had an absurdly high random encounter rate

>>386452671
it does, and it sticks you with a shitty cursed party member for half the game, it can be kinda difficult too. Though I thought the class changing was pretty cool and overall thought the battle system was fine, its hard to be a truly shit game when your core elements still mostly work. Mediocre? Sure. Worst ever? Hell no.

>>386404991
Just ignore FFXV existed and don't do anything like that again

Dragoon Campaign incoming?

>>386404991

Can't wait for them to be retarded and throw a ridiculous budget with ridiculous sales expectations on an old niche franchise.

I'm legitimately starting to question Yoshida.

All these JRPG selling well on PS4 yet he's focusing on cinematic experience through and through for the Worldwide Studios. He surely knows that JRPG is the MOST popular genre of the PlayStation brand. I bet Sony has this mindset of "Oh well, let's just rely on 3rd parties for JRPG while we can continue making cinematic experience The Last of Us bullshit over and over".

They're blinded as fuck they cannot see that the most popular genre of their console is starting to lose exclusivity and get ported to PC left and right.

>>386450740

Might as well take the time to make other party members not become redundant after Meru joins.

>>386455635
>He surely knows that JRPG is the MOST popular genre of the PlayStation brand.
Joke post?
>Oh well, let's just rely on 3rd parties for JRPG while we can continue making cinematic experience The Last of Us bullshit over and over
That's exactly what they're doing, while should they do anything more when 3rd party jrpgs are Playstation console exclusives anyway?
The one jrpg Sony has is Bloodborne, it only sold 2 millions and that's as popular a game in the genre is gonna be.

>>386456321
>when 3rd party jrpgs are Playstation console exclusives anyway?
Not really. Like I said, ported to PC left and right.

>>386410432
But Konami needs those pachinko machines.

>>386456060
Meru isn't even that good. Best party is Dart/Rose/Albert

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>>386455635
JRPG fan here
I fucking wish it was the most popular genre of any brand

>>386456607
Literally what. Rose is one of the worst characters, only behind Kongol. Albert is crap EXCEPT for rose storm which is broken and the only reason to use him at all.

Meru hits harder than any other character, while being faster than any other character. Shes a fucking machine.

>>386457171
>Albert has Rose Storm spam. That's OP as fuck.
>Rose gets her Additions early and they are easy to do so you can spam Demon's Dance as early as Disk 2. Endgame she gets Dragon Buster.
>I cannot toss out Dart.
Really best team. Meru is fast and strong but she just comes in too late.

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>>386456447
They sold 60 million consoles. This isn't a loss for them, they got a big part of the jrpg audience with Bloodborne/FF15/Persona, making exclusive jrpgs now, or stopping the shittier/nicher ones from going to PC isn't gonna change a thing for Sony, at this point most jrpg fan made their choice already.

I didn't buy a PS4 and got a PC instead for this reason, but peoples like me basically don't matter to Sony at all in the first place.

Of course their gonna crank it up to 11 with the normalfaggotry and drive up insane software sales with Walking Dead clones.

>>386457350
She comes in 2 discs before dragon buster, so thats a dumb reason. And yeah her additions are easy, but who cares. No additions are hard outside maybe Hashel or whatever the purple guy is.

>>386457582
By the time you can Meru you will already have Demon's Dance on Rose and a high Dragoon level on her. Meru comes in late and also gets her Dragoon last. There is no need to switch out to her really unless you want to grind her.

>>386457808
Who cares about dragoon level anyway. Meru will get so many actions she will get her additions super quick and her normal additions are so strong it doesnt matter when she gets her dragoon level. She hits harder than every other characters without it.

There is literally no reason to use rose. Demon's dance is one of the weakest final additions. If you are going to use the "Meru comes in late" card, which is silly because she doesn't come in THAT late, then you should use Haschel instead. Hes better than Rose across the board with the single exception of addition difficulty, and you can use the damned accessory that makes addition automatic if that is really stumping you.

>>386458036
I can't do Haschel's additions and don't want to buy gimping accessory.

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>>386455635

It's less that JRPGs are the most popular and more than JRPGs have stronger/longer lasting fandoms. People STILL write/draw about JRPGs that are over a decade old. A lot of other, better selling games do not have this kind of fandom.

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>>386456696

I remember learning about "other games" when I was younger and wondering why the fuck anybody would want to play something that wasn't a RPG.

I'm almost 30 and I still wonder.

>>386459416
You don't have to buy anything. You get one of the perfect versions on the ghost ship.

>>386460937
Really? I never could solve that puzzle as a kid.

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>>386443346

>>386404991
A new Wild Arms for PS4 please. Been waiting for a WA6 since the PS3 days.

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>>386459438
That's because a good story doesn't age.

You can still play Ar tonelico. Try playing GTA3.

>>386412305
Legend of Dragoon only had like 3 or 4 FMVs. Even if the dub was atrocious, you only heard their voices for like 1 minute total. It's totally negligible.

My concern is, if they ever touch LoD again, it almost assuredly will not have the same music composer. LoD's soundtrack was fucking great.
>Tfw would chill in the menu screen just for the music

>>386404991
Appently there is already another Wild Arms game in the works but I haven't heard anything about it since 2014(I think) when it was announced. Not sure what happened to it.

>>386439992
SE has a ton of JRPG fans and franchises under their belt. FFXIV generates a ton of money from addicts and erpers and also KH3 is coming out soon as well. Did FFXV even sell at a loss? Even if they fuck up like Capcom they still won't go down. Hell even Capcom isn't going down yet.

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>>386457564
Still pissed about last gen. I had to buy two consoles for JRPGs.

Now everything is on PS4.

>>386416905
>lost to piracy
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Anime disc/merch sales are through the fucking roof. It's the reason Sony even bought Funimation. Downloading/streaming online only brought anime to a wider audience.
>b-but anime is dead because muh favorite obscure series sold less than 1K discs!
Maybe you just need to recognize most modern anime is not targeted at you.

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>>386462850
>KH3 is coming out soon

>KH3
>soon

anon...

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>>386432318
PC will never be JRPG king.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/538680/discussions/0/1471967529575729617/

First stop allowing devs to port their games to PC, then we can talk.

>>386407574
>Camelot made this piece of shit

Man I keep forgetting that.

>>386464486
>the main thing some consolemongs care about is if other people can play their toys or not.
It's sad that for you shitposting always has the priority over anything else.

>>386414107

DoYouMeanSuikodenTierkreis?

WhatWasWrongWithThatGame?

D R A G O O N 2
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>>386464536
And they continued making shit.

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A wild Arms game in the style of Wild Arms 3 would be amazing. Maximum comfy.

>>386464937
Nah, let's get a good series. Without nostalgia LoD is nothimg special. Alundra actually had potential.

>>386463518

Go back about a decade ego to when the Japanese were deciding that the west didn't like anime anymore and just wanted bald space marines, idiot. It used to be that every Best Buy had two isles of anime, and if a show existed, somebody was snatching up the rights, and then-

ADV died
Geneon died
Bandai's western branch died
Anime on TV died
Funimation was pretty much the only remaining player in town.

Business was doing so well that it was basically an industry purge over the course of a few years.

>>386462716
That guy died a long time ago

>>386465254
Pretty much this. It's been doing relatively well for a small niche thing, but let's not kid yourself.

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>all these people praising stuff like wild arms and legend of dragoon
>people are even calling beyond the beyond
Serious question, did you guys play these as kids? I played these in more recent years and they're just terrible. Don't think I hate every ps1 era jrpg either. I fucking love the two Breath of Fire and two SaGa Frontier games on the system.

>>386465512
Bof and saga already went mobile, they dont give a shit about those

>>386465679
I know that, I just said those as what I feel are examples of good ps1 jrpgs.

>>386465470

Anime's actually been consistently growing in popularity, and it was already popular enough to fill up two isles in Best Buy. It's just that it became a norm in western anime fan culture to not spend money on anime, as a result of the industry's exceedingly slow reaction to the presence of the internet.

What we have going on in the industry today should have happened back then. Licensing should have taken place before airing, subbed releases should have been near-instant, and quality shouldn't have taken a hit in order to protect muh domestic sales.

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>>386404991
BRING BACK DARK CLOUD!!!!!!!!

Something with feels of adventure, great customization, bunch of sidequests that develop characters.

And release shit like DQ games faster, instead of waiting a year or more or never ever.

>reviving a franchise
Chrono series. I know the shit that happened with Cross, but the timetravelling with changing things through eras like CT was great. Little things like making that rich guy a good person that gives things to people because you changed their family's past, or leaving Robo behind and getting back immediately but for Robo he was without the crew for 400 years, saving Lucca's mom or not, beating Magus and changing the present to a point Ozzie was the hero of the mystics. How you could have multiple endings even without the main character
Having a bunch of options and possibilities was one of the things that got me into rpgs, but few do such things.

>>386465742
Cause its about resurrecting old series. You can't resurrect something that went mobile

I'd like it if they put more effort into the story for a change. I miss JRPGs with insteresting story like Valkyrie Profile 1-2, Shadow Hearts, Xenosaga trilogy, or hell even FF7.

>>386466341
Chrono is SE. Even then Chrono is dead in every way, while all the main minds behind it (Hori, Sakaguchi, Toriyama, and Kato) are alive and well they will never all be together again. Also CC ended the story in a way that there is really no more story to tell.

>>386456607
>>386457808
>>386457350
The moment Meru shows up, your best party is Dart/Meru/Haschel. You need to have Haschel for the bandit boss regardless, and Lenus will absolutely rape everyone with a low magic defense to hell and back. Disc 3 is when every major boss fucks over Dragoons, and Grand Jewel fucks over Rose, so you can't even abuse Rose Storm spam when it locks Albert in for 5 turns which is an automatic death against all of Disc 3's major bosses. By the time Disc 4 rolls around, Rose has dropped off the face of the earth in terms of stats and Albert is only good for the rare situational fight where Rose Storm spam is actually useful.

>>386466850
lmao you guys the game is so easy. I finished the game as an ignorant kid with an albert/kongol team and just spammed gust of wind all day. faust is like the only thing that can be called a "challenge"

>>386466669

Just wanted something with a time travel ability, could be a Chrono series or something else.

Hoot DOUGH! Double smack!

>>386467364

Same. Kingdom/Albert was my party from the moment you get Kongol. Stats are useless in this game as long as you do additions well/can button mash well enough for spell items. Faust was only hard if you didn't have the right items equipped. I've beaten Faust in 3 turns with Kongol/Albert.

>>386466614
I hear you. You'd think Xeno guy would finally finish his story now that he's with Nintendo, but every Xenoblade games is basically a Xenosaga remake except worse in every single way story wise.

VPs are absolute masterpiece, and Tri Ace was honestly very close with Resonance of Fate I think, except T-A themselves called RoF "how to NOT make a jrpg", and there's no sign of them ever going back to this level of quality
wtf I fucking hate them now

At least Yakuza still exist.

>>386450565
Yes I would die for her. Problem?

>>386468080
I never heard about their satement on RoF, but I'm very sad to hear that.
Sadly I missed RoF and I no longer have my PS3, but it looks like a game I would enjoy.

>>386465254
>Go back about a decade
What does the market 10 years ago have to do with the market trends today? Last time I checked, Aniplex is milking the fuck out of everything Fate, idols, and other cash cows, Funimation is rescuing older licenses that were stuck in limbo after the crash and still has Dragon Ball and other beloved titles, and Sentai is still doing their own thing with somewhat obscure titles to have a decent niche. Manga and LN are getting translated at speeds you faggots would have been dreaming for 10 years ago despite the Tokyo Pop fiasco. The bursted bubble of Japanese media in North America is old fucking news.

>>386405642
2.5D or bust

>>386470838

>What does the market 10 years ago have to do with the market trends today?

I've already explained it to you twice. We're talking about why anime games don't get big budget releases.

Around ten years ago, a storm of stupid missteps (which I've already described) falsely convinced the Japanese that the global market for Japanese-style products was dead, and that they needed to re-brand themselves to look more like Cowadoodie and Halo in order to stay relevant. Since then, they've completely avoided testing the waters in an intelligent fashion. That's continued through to today, thus its modern relevance.

>>386472437

More specifically, the Japanese devs still talk about things in terms of "games made for the Japanese market" and "games made for the global market".

This tells you that the problem isn't past tense. Hopefully, it will be in five years.