>tfw lived long enough to see Sonic become "cool"

>>386391213
For the same reason Donkey Kong doesn't work in 3D

>>386391268
Donkey Kong works fine in 3D, nintendo just doesn't know how to do it.

>>386391213
It does work, it just requires more work than SEGA and some in Sonic Team think worth it.

>>386391213
I thought a 3d game was coming along with the 2d one?

>>386391213
because mario 64 had a great physic

while sonic 3D always had a shitty one

as well as bad level design

it's not even about the edgy things, sonic team sucks at level design and physic

the last sonic forces videos also show lame ass levels, wether it's the old sonic gameplay or the new, the levels are empty, bland, not fun, not challenging

you just run, and when there is ennemis you mash A with the auto aiming

they could put QTE the whole game it's be the same

at least sonic adventure had a bit of exploration

>>386392014
>3D game
>2/3 of the game are in 2D
No

I liked Adventure though, it was perfectly fine.
>But the youtuber said!
Yea, never about the Sonic and Shadow stages unless they're "I defeated my entire argument by being horrendous at most complicated games to begin with" Egoraptor.

>>386391579
Donkey Kong 64 was garbage though.

>>386392248
I also like sonic adventure. I get that it's not great but I think it's fun.

>>386392248
>>386392427
I liked Sonic Adventure aswell, imo that was the last time Sonic was "Cool". But its been 17 years.

Surprise there isn't a Sonic Utopia autist

>>386391213
basically like what >>386391579 said about donkey kong.

sonic could work in 3d, sonic team just consistently fucks it up by adding shitty gameplay gimmicks or introducing playable characters with awful gameplay mechanics.

>>386392427
Fuck off with your memes you piece of shit. Sonic Adventure IS a great game.

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>>386391213
Repeat after me:
SONIC
TEAM
IS
FULL
OF
SHIT
DEVS

I just downloaded Utopia the other day. If Sonic Team could make a game with that much competence it would herald in a new age of 3D Sonic.

That said, if they did do that I would like the zones to be a bit more difficult, and only 1 act with a boss stage afterwards. With a mix of bosses that require good platforming, and ones that are a straight "Jump on his head 8 times" show.

>>386392706
kek

>>386391213
Sonic Utopia shows Sonic can work in 3D.

Now if a classic Sonic 3D isn't something you like. I guess the main problem has always been that Sega never worked on the fundamentals in 3D, they decided sonic should be fast automatically and do that rather then see how the player should control the movement at any time.

I say give it a bit more time, Sega is listening to fans now* , so they'll start seeing what needs to be done.

*fans as in those who understand the mechanics of gameplay that allowed the games to work. Not autistics

>>386391213
You know those physics based puzzle games where you control the stage rather than the ball and how fun it is to master the physics and make the ball go fast and finish?

That's what Sonic in 3D should have been but you control the "ball" instead.

>>386392953
>>386393038
Utopia is fucking shitty. You fucking IDIOTS love putting anything that's classic sanic on a obnoxiously high pedestal. Modern Sonic is 100x better. Kys yourself retard

>>386391213
The Adventure games did Sonic in 3D well, it's just when it's on rails boost shit it doesn't work

>>386393278
So, marble blast gold or whatever it's called? yeah it's fun and really fast. Sonic Utopia p much plays like it but a platforms as well

>>386393371
holy shit what a garbage opinion. enjoy your railroad game-that-plays-itself retard

>Sonic is cool again! The next game is the one to revitalize the franchise!!

says the increasingly old autistic fanboy for the 50x time in a row

>>386391213
Sonic has had many different 3D gameplay styles
Adventure style, heroes style, unleashed style, the wii games, sonic 06, generations, sonic boom
Because there are so many different types of gameplay, people are divided on what they think the best way for Sonic to be in 3D
Sega, instead of picking the style they think works best and polishing it to be the most well made, constantly change the gameplay and it will either be decent or bad because it's something new so its something they tread on the waters with, if it doesn't end up good they most of the time try something new again

2D Sonic has been ore consistent with it's gameplay such as Sonic's speed, momentum, weight, etc are very similar to each iteration of him from previous 2D games

Sonic can work in 3D, but people can come to a coclusion on what the best 3D gameplay style Sonic should have

>>386393371
You really should try harder. I would have believed this as serious if the last two sentences weren't there.

In all honesty it's very good. You can go fast with a bit of skill, jumping feels natural, all the cool things you can do with the level design is fun, and it makes me wonder what would have happened if they kept Sonic in 2D or 2.5D until now.

>>386393578
>He doesn't know

>>386393540
YOU have the garbage opinion you fucking retarded piece of fucking shit. You're so fucking dumb I want to bash your skull in. You're such a retarded fucking sheep that all you can do is parrot the tired opinions of others. You're a mindless drone. Kys holy fuck your kind is fucking disgusting and deserves to be shot.

>>386393640

No Sonic game so far worked in 3d in any satisfactory manner.

It was all experimenting that couldn't capture the main draw of the series properly.

The fact that 20 years later the franchise still hasn't decided on what manner of 3d platforming to definitively use should tell you that.
Not to mention that every time they fuck up with it they fall back on a regular 2d Sonic to appease the fandom.

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>>386393845
I guess this Is what happens when I take the obvious bait

>>386393938
Are you sure? I mean it's been 20 years sense we got an actual 2D sonic game, with the physics and stuff, not just "oh it's 2D so it must be the good sonic"

I honestly like Sonic World better than Sonic Utopia, am I the only one?

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>>386394096
>I put him in his place so hard he's fucking scared and absolutely frightened and just passes it off as bait

>>386393938
I was satisfied with how Sonic worked in Adventure 1 and 2
I felt a sense of control with him with both games even though he plays differently when comparing the two
Knowing how to control him and being able to go fast because I familiarize myself with how he worked very satisfying
It's why I go back to those games to only play the Sonic and Shadow levels getting easy A ranks, because I think he is the most fun in these games

>>386394197
You don't actually think anyone on this board is scared of a threat made here do you?

>>386391213
Sonic is full of spaghettios? That explains why autists love him so much.

>>386391213
The 3d sonic games usually emphasize Speed, while the good installments of the 2d series emphasize exploration and decent platforming. Sonic Team is just really stupid.

Sonic should have died with the Dreamcast, and buried next it. Sonic was still a respectable franchise back then.

>>386394353
The Sonic Adventure games were far from respectable

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>>386394197
Your "putting me in my place" just served to make me chuckle like a certain knuckle so I hineatky thought you were being ironic, I guess you really are just that autistic

>>386391213
>WHY, WHY DOES SONIC NOT WORK IN 3D????
Explain Generations, day Unleashed and Colors, then.

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>>386394472
honestly*

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>>386394541
>those games
>3D
Surely you jest

>>386394184
nah, I preferred sonic world too. the huge amount of playable characters and the ablility to makes custom teams is awesome. it's the closest thing to what I would imagine a "perfect" 3d sonic game would be like. although to be fair, I had a hard time playing utopia because it lagged very badly on my shitty laptop

Honestly in all the 3D sonic games I played the gaining of momentum has always felt off, sonic either starts running at the speed of sound right off the bat or or he's slow for about 3 seconds before boosting off into gotta go fast mode, if they made the gaining of speed a little more gradual I feel it'd be better.

>>386394472
Add Heroes, ShTH, and 06 to that list.

>>386392623
how's that coming along, anyway? Only watched like a 2 minute video of it but it looked interesting

Biggest mistake in the 3D games, there is no roll mechanic. I mean sure there is a spindash in some of the older games like sa1&sa2, but none of it ever felt fluid.

>>386392248
>If an youtuber has an opinion that means no one else can have it or they're copying him

nice logic

>>386394401
They were fine when they were released. Or at least, Sonic Adventure was. It was so technically impressive that no one gave a shit about anything else.

>>386391213
It's not that it CAN'T work in 3D, it's just the 3D games being handled by people that don't know what makes Sonic work to begin with. The series started going downhill as soon as rolling downhill stopped being a major feature.

Sonic Team can't even do 2D gameplay right.
I don't know why people think because an incompetent studio run by incompetent higher ups have failed at a concept multiple times means the concept can't be done correctly.

>>386395060
Giving "no" a long winded rephrasing doesn't make it an argument sir.

>>386395219
Its because Yuji Naka left, the only man capable of making decent 2D games. Christian Whitehead is the new Yuji Naka. Now we just need someone to replace Takashi Iizuka, someone who actually knows 3D games.

>>386392337
You just have shit taste anon.

Sonic Robo Blast 2 is objectively the best 3D Sonic game.

>>386391213
always surprises me how weak bait still succeeds

>>386396651
God damn you pieces of shits are fucking retarded... I share a planet with these type of people... disgusting....

>>386392248
Adventure 1 was a glitchy incomplete mess while only 33% of Adventure 2 was any good because the rest of the games are taken up by the stupid treasure and mech missions. And even during the highest highs of the Adventure games, they still feel like they're barely holding themselves together with how momentum and physics work in those games unlike the classic games which have perfectly amicable laws of physics that are always consistent and easy to work with.