>"indie games suck fucking pixelshit REEEEEEEEEEE"

>>386387759
I don't think anyone has ever shitposted on Crypt of The Necrodancer.

Not all indie games are pixelshit.
Not all pixelshit is indie.
Not all pixel art games are pixelshit.
Pixelshit is only bad if the gameplay does not make up for it.

A game like Necrodancer needs easily readable high contrast graphics due to its gameplay. Sprites are perfect for it.

>>386387759
They are oversaturated right now desu. Either way.
>Listening to /v/

>>386387920
You're incorrect, people shitpost about it because something something Anita SJW devs female protagonist etc etc etc

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>relying on other people's opinions in the first place

Just take a dive once in a while.

>>386387935
SPBP

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>>386387963
>easily readable high contrast graphics

Any fast-paced game requiring skill benefits from this. Pixel graphics confirmed for best graphics.

Putting the word "pixel" in a title should be banned, though, even if the game turns out to be fun.

I'm sorry OP but you dont get to be special today, because Crypt of the Necrodancer is generally well liked on /v/

>>386387759
pixel graphics =/= pixelshit. the latter is a low-quality attempt at achieving """"retro"""" graphics while instead making something that looks like hot nasty garbage. That aside, don't ever let /v/ or anyone else shape your opinions. If someone talks shit about a game here, look into the game to see if it's something you'll like or not -- same goes with any other community.

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>>386388030
Well i don't know anything about and i still don't care, the game is good and the ost is fucking good.

1-3 is the best non-boss song.

>>386387759
pixelshit =/= pixel art
the only actual pixelshit indie game that was good was nuclear throne
the art is shitty but that's some damn good gameplay and soundtrack

>>386388338
That's not 3-3 but I respect your opinion cause 1-3 is great

>>386387759
>it's good
But it's literally not. If the art is a talentless mess, then that's a point against the game as a whole.

Anyone who uses the term "pixelshit" can fuck right off. It's completely fucking meaningless and only translates to "game I dislike".

>>386388378
The artwork in NT was okay, but the environments left more to be desired.

>>386388520
Yet it''s not a talentless mess either.

>>386387759
I fucking hate this game.
I constantly get "MISSED BEAT". how do I get good?

>>386387759
I think you shouldn't kill yourself

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>>386388481
I could say with upmost certain that the best song is the entire ost.
Fight me. You cant.

>>386388684
Get a sense of rhythm you fucking faggot

>>386388684
Don't look at the beatmap and get into the rhythm. If you're still missing, consider redoing the first-time calibration.

>>386388684
git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwFUjhP4Jw

>>386388684
Calibrate correctly? Other than that >>386388801 really.

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>>386387759
>Listening to /v/
This place is normalfag central, the major argument for a game's supposed quality is units sold, followed by metacritic's scores, why the hell would you listen to this shithole? Might as well go to Gamefaqs, Neogaf or Reddit.

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>>386388801
I can't I'm too stupid

>>386387920
/v/ did for a while because
>female protagonist
>SJW devs
>SJW fanbase
Game is solid regardless, people here shitpost even harmless games like Stardew Valley, so it's not like this shit matters.

>>386388030
Not directly, but I have seen plenty of anons saying all indies are pixelshit.
of course people who like to classify and shit on an entire genre have shittaste.

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>>386388589
Yes it is

Dead Ringer best boss fight

>>386388481
4-3 is the hypest shit before fighting dead Ringer, but >>386388796 is Aldo right.

>>386388684
Wait a few seconds before moving after you enter a new level and read the beat, it is the same thru the whole level, so don't try following the music, but rather the beat

>>386387759

Congratulations on having shit taste.

>>>/reddit/

>>386389193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNh7wxRsOyE
nrgh
GNH!

nrgh
GNH!

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>>386387759
I can't get into it because the main character reminds me too much of Dobson's lesbian pirate OC.

>>386389260
Fuck off faggot

>>386389193
Dead Ringer is a really good pun

>he summons the dead
>he rings bells
>he is a dead ringer for your father

The Conductor is too hard with anything but the cutlass. It's like you're expected to have the cutlass so as to parry all the fucking garbage she throws at you from all angles.

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>>386389331
Did he seriously just advertise a coupon for a comic he made in his own comic?

>>386389331
I actually haven't heard anything about Dobson for a while
Is he still shitting out comics?

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>tfw you're conflicted about games that use sprite aesthetics to save money, but they make the games super-cheap to make up for it, so you get a good product for like 5 bucks

>>386388939
I listen to /v/ only in threads that aren't awful
If a thread is full of reasonable discussion about a game's mechanics and how fun it is with minimal shitposting or waifufaggotry it's a good bet I'll like the game
It's why FOTM threads are usually good, see Besiege, My Summer Car, Foxhole

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>it's another "OP deliberately misinterprets an argument because he can't stop sucking dicks" thread
Nobody calls games like CotN "pixelshit" because it actually has a style to it. The true problem comes when indie devs put in the bare minimum for graphics, making shit like pic related and trying to pass it off as an "aesthetic" or a "tribute to retro games".

>>386389598

All Dobson does anymore is whine on twitter.

Pixelshit is good in a few cases
>game is very complex and having a detailed graphic for every asset would hinder the actual development
>artist is genuinely good at pixel art
>the game would look worse if the graphics were more complex
That's all I can think of right now.

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On the plus side, I love that pixel art has the potential to evolve into beautiful hand-drawn sprites that could even give Metal Slug a run for its money. We all have Hollow Knight, Cup Head, WarioLand: Shake it, and many others to thank for that.

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>>386390148
Also this in terms of pixel art evolving into hand-drawn sprites.

>>386389747
Is that from the guy who makes gets commisioned to make pixel avatars like these?
I've seen better shit from younger people making Super Mario War skins

>>386387920
Muh SJW

>>386387759
You know there's always at least one, annoying sjw creator, good game.
Just learn to separate the artist from the art and just enjoy whatever you want

>>386387759

I thought this game was boring, as a rhythm game it's dull because you always beat it to the same rhythm and as a roguelike it doesn't work because they are the sort of game where you stop and think and not just hop everywhere like a moron

And when you take an hit most of the time is because you didn't understand how a monster was supposed to move because again you have to hop back and forth like a crazy frog

I feel like people give it a free pass because of the unique concept and OST rather than the actual game

>>386390554
>And when you take an hit most of the time is because you didn't understand how a monster was supposed to move
What? That only happens on very rare occasions, with some rare interactions with bounce traps and collisions. Or with bats. Fuck bats.

>>386390373
welcome to commissioning popular artists that are giving less than what you offer them compared to obscure artists who do it better.
>It's just business

>>386390370
Fucking 10/10 remake.

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>>386387759
Does anyone else know any good indie games like this?

I found this from an anon before and I want it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBLoffoZLH8

Ive also been playing Nuclear Throne recently, its fun af

>>386391350
cave exploring reminds me of Terraria's different cave terrains, looks cool thanks for sharing anon.

>>386387759
>Thanks /v/.
>I can always count on the opposite of your opinion.
Does that mean you do the opposite of your own opinion? Your post confuses me.

>>386389078
Final Fantasy 4 and 5's in-battle party sprites were shit tho. Poor use of colors, and ugly-ass pixel shading. 6 was the only consistently good-looking SNES FF, and this is coming from someone who's favorite overall is 5.

>>386392750
>pixel shading
Meant pillow shading, sorry. Point still stands.

>>386390696
>Or with bats. Fuck bats.
Yeah, IIRC those one type of bat enemies in last levels are the only enemies to move at random directions *every* single beat so moving near them with a short-ranged weapon has 1/4 chance of hitting you.

They're thankfully removed for the 1HKO characters.

>>386387759
"always do the opposite of what /v/ says" is a surprisingly robust rule for buying games.

>>386387935
wow man what an advanced fucking opinion

>>386393343
Don't buy Battleborn anon.

>>386393343

>according to /v/, you should always do the opposite of what /v/ says
>according to /v/, /v/ says that every game is bad
>therefore according to /v/, you should buy every game

is /v/ the ultimate shilling channel?

>>386387759
Crypt of the necrodancer is the exception, not the rule.

It's an anomaly among indie pixelshit games in the way that it's actually good.

>>386388338
>3-1 ice is the best non-boss song.
Fixed.

>>386388338
>>386388481
>>386389193
None of those are 5-3 or the conductor how can they be the best

>>386395253
I don't have the DLC yet

>>386389563
It's almost like you can only fight it with the character that starts with cutlass or something

Blood axe works great though

>>386387759
the only thing i don't like about the game is that you're forced to use meme-challenge characters to progress rather than having them as neat unlocks for people who whine too much about the lack of difficulty

don't get me wrong, the challenge is completely fine until you unlock grandma-fuck-you and are forced to beat the game with her

>>386395460
Forced to beat the game with her to do what?

The only thing that Aria locks other than more challenge mode characters is her boss fight. And you can do that just by doing single zones.

>>386394732
It's the exception that proves you shouldn't blindly follow nu-/v/'s overgeneralized and uninformed blanket opinions.

>>386388146
I give They Bleed Pixels a pass on that because it came out quite a while ago before pixelshit really became rampant.

>>386395583
you only get the true ending if you beat the game with grandma

the one in which you beat the necrodancer and destroy the lute
at leas it was this way when i used to play

>>386387759
I love pixels. It's the "le 8 bit aesthetics are goat xddd" bullshit that I cannot stand. 8bit always has and always will look like shit. Why do no indie games try to pull of a 16bit/snes style?

>>386389063
Indie isn't a genre anymore. There's fucking indie 3D MMOs now for fuck's sake.

>>386395734
Yeah, but you're not forced into it. All you get out of it is a "you beat the game" cutscene.

>>386395945
i dunno m8.
beating the game seems like the whole point

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>>386395758
OR maybe one day we'll pick up where we left off in the early/mid 90s and start actually advancing a bit.

And no, the shit vector based sprites people try for in those awful "HD" ports of old games is not the direction to head.

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>>386387759
Is this supposed to be a CotND thread or just bait?

>>386396754

It was supposed to be a thread about how indie games are sometimes great despite what a significant portion of /v/ believes. (I know /v/ isn't one person so it's not really correct to call this, or any single opinion, "/v/'s opinion" -- but let's not be delusional and pretend the board isn't home to plenty of people who refuse to play indie games because they're indie or because "muh pixels". Some of them are in this thread.)

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>>386387759
I want all the hours I wasted on Dark Souls back. They said it was "rewarding", it's good to be a "hardcore" gamer.
No. Gameplay is mediocre at best. The most difficult enemy is the fucking camera.

>>386394559
.. HOL' UP *smack lips* YO YO MEAN THAT *smack lips* /V/ AINT ONE PERSON???? THAT CRAAZZZZZZZZZZZYY NIGAAAAA

>>386397290
"indies are all bad" is just a successful shill by the videogame corps

i miss when /v/ shat on AAA games much more often
i've even seen some /v/tards use the term "AAA game" positively nowadays too, which is fucking gross.

>>386394732

So you're saying the vast majority of indie games are bad? Okay. Who cares? What is one even supposed to do with that information? Nobody is required to play every indie game, or the average indie game. When someone says "indie games are bad" and I disagree, I'm not saying the average indie game is good. I'm disagreeing with the statement that indie games are bad.

Just play the good ones. The good ones are not affected by the bad ones. 99% of everything is crap but it literally doesn't matter.

DLC not selling so well?

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>>386389331
You know that OC is literally just a Captain Syrup recolor right?

>>386387759
Games with shit pixel art like Undertale are pixelshit games. Games with good pixel art like Owlboy, Terraria or CotN aren't

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>>386387759
there are more crappy indie titles, therefore people just blanket it. there are a lot of great indie games though.
AAA is usually more generic but better polished.
crypt is a pretty good game, the difficulty curve is pretty fucking big though and there is very little content.
did you want some other suggestions, or was that all?

>>386397334
if you're playing the game because you fell for the hardcore gamer propaganda then you are probably retarded.

>>386397980
Why would you ask that?

Although it probably isn't, considering the game is already a niche and too difficult for most people, staying half a year in early acess hardly helped. It's a shame because you can see there is a lot of care put into the game but it only caters to the people that are already fans and aren't put off because of the difficulty or style.

>>386388967
Necrodancer dev's are SJW's?

>>386399046
>terraria
>good
complex does not equal good.
terraria a fuggo.
>tfw super hope terraria 2 happens and owns.

No one shits on Cave Story or Shovel Knight

It's just that there are some terrible pixelshit indie games, just like every other genre

>>386401408
They crafted the story inspired by that Anita princess video I think.

>>386401408
I think it was just one of the music composers. from what I saw it was pretty tame too.

>>386401408
>>386401638
To clarify, Anita "Approved" of the character designs and overall story, and she was in the credits, but that's it really

>>386394732
Thankfully we have the internet so you can track down dozens of these anomalies with little to no effort.

>>386401408
Yup, the entire reason the main character is female is because of Anita.

>>386388963

Use the bard then.

>>386401913
At least we got that one gif out of it

>>386402505
?

>>386387935
Except the majority of the time people use the term pixelshit to describe any indie game with pixel graphics.

>>386388939
I pray people just use metacritic scores as a means for shitposting.

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Brown and bloom setting but Crawl is a blast to play, and the special attacks add some nice bright colors.

>>386401823

Whew, almost bought this, thanks for letting me know to skip it.

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The best Necrodancer track is 3-2 Ice, this is non debatable

am I the only one who thinks Frankenstienway is harder than The Conductor? the fucker never stands still

>>386402905
No prob. Remember to only play MRA approved media to prevent total moral degeneration. Consult your community leaders here on /v/ if you have questions on whether a game is appropriate for your consumption.

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>>386388338
>1-3
>not 1-2

It's ok, we all make typos.

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>>386402801
the only crime this game committed is not having dlc content. I need even more shit in this game, it's so goddamn good, especially with 2 friends

>this is pretty fun
>play the bard
>okay well that was a lot more fun and easy, and now I suddenly don't want to play the game

feels like he should have been a "you fucked up 50 times heres easy mode"

>>386389331
Where's the joke?

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>>386402579

>>386389331
>character acts like a parody tsundere
>must be some female character he idolizes and is just blowing it out of proportion
>its his "OC" character

somehow thats even more pathetic.

>>386404190
Don't worry, He now has to work a shitty retail job to support playing 10fps skyrim on his outdated macbook

>>386404176
For a game with such a big Japanese fanbase Necrodancer has way too little good porn

>>386403115
zone 3 has the best tracks

Old pixel art: Best tech available, made best use of CRTs, limited palette and low resolution that they could to get as much detail and fluidity as possible.

New pixel shit: Worst tech available and deliberately ugly. The games usually don't even treat their playfield as a grid of pixels and you end up with sub-pixel movement, rotations and so on; they just use shitty characters for the sake of being shitty.

Where my 2-1 niggas at? There's something about it that's just so good.