>DBZ fighting hype is getting larger and larger >and me,

>>386347016
a properly balanced HFTF with EOH roster

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>>386347121
>tfw you will never get to play this

>>386347016
ASW needs to get on that shit asap
it's their destiny to make a jojo fightan

Why the fuck are people here obsessed with jojo? I've watched it and read all of it and it's mediocre at best.

>>386347121
>Balanced

Well, ya see, that is the problem every single vidya addaption of a manga have. Since a majority of the characters are Mary sues with overpowered powers, it becomes basically impossible to balanced it properly.

I mean, wasn't like you have a man that can stop time and a dude that can kill you in one shot.

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>>386347236
>I've watched

WICH PART

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>>386347285
Just nerf them. The old arcade game didn't have Vanilla Ice killing people in one hit, so that's a non issue.

>>386347121
Pretty much.

>>386347016
JoJo Warriors.

>>386347236
So you read over 10,000 pages of something you think is mediocre?

>>386347556
How about that pussy Pucci ?

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HFTF is a good competitive fighter and ASB and EOH are good casual ones, stop being entitled.

Why don't you advocate for a series that truly has no great fighting games to get one, like Gash Bell?

>>386347016
EOH with splitscreen

>>386347683
Unlike the majority I didn't get into jojo just a year or two ago. I read up to part 6 when I was younger and read part 7 a year ago

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>not wanting a sailor moon competitive fighter to complete the big 3 90's anime trio of DBZ, Pokemon, and it all having competitive fighting games since Pokemon and now DBZ have them

>>386347837
So in other words you read the shit scans?

>>386347842
Fucking hell, in the series, Sailor Moon is just a pussy that does'nt fight shit.

I'm still waiting on a god damn decent yu yu hakusho fighting game.

>>386347837
And? So you read 10,000 pages of something you thought was just Mediocre AND were bad translations.

Why?

>>386348190
the genesis one is cool

>>386347604
There aren't many fights VS mobs of enemies in the series, though

You would basically have to keep it to Part 1. Make Dio's zombie minions far more numerous than they actually were

Part 2 onwards are mostly 1v1 or small-scale fights

Jojo really doesn't seem suited for a video game anymore.

During Stardust Crusaders it was, and HFTF was pretty amazing, but as time has progressed, stands have gotten less and less combat oriented and I can't think of a genre that would work for Jojo's whole "outsmart your opponent with an unusual application of your stand" fight method.

The game would have to have more detail and complexity than any other game ever made for the sole purpose of letting your stand interact with the world in unconventional ways. No one would want to play as Josuke and Crazy Diamond and NOT be able to come up with some absurd plan that involves ripping apart a rubber tire and reforming it to encase an electric enemy.

>>386347604
The thing is, Fights in Jojo is mostly about thinking, not rushing right into the danger and start punching stuff.
In order to beat an enemy, you have to understand every single aspect of his stand, and try to find that ONE weakness that can kill him.
If we forget The World and Alessi's Stand, then every fight is around thinking about how the enemy stand works.

>>386348543
>No one would want to play as Josuke and Crazy Diamond and NOT be able to come up with some absurd plan that involves ripping apart a rubber tire and reforming it to encase an electric enemy.

You picked a bad example. Crazy Diamond is still squarely within the ORA ORA family of stands and could be made into a FG archetype easily

>>386348694
CD was the impetus of plan-fights, though. He could punch stuff, but most of Josuke's victories came from him outwitting an opponent who had thought they won by suddenly reforming an object they had forgotten about.

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>>386348694
>Healing ourselves in a fighting game
Is that fair ?

>>386348692
>If we forget The World and Alessi's Stand, then every fight is around thinking about how the enemy stand works.

There are fights in which the enemy is just overpowered in combat without much "figuring out". Like Avdol VS Polnareff. There's nothing very complicated about Silver Chariot, by looking at it you can tell it stabs fast

>>386348850
Josuke can't heal himself.

>>386348846
Pretty sure Joseph was Le Epic Trick Man :^) before Josuke.

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>>386348907
Even if he punch himself ?

>>386348846
You can easily translate "healing objects to make an enclosure/obstacle" into a generic fighting move. The specific applications don't matter much. The tire as enclosure worked because the Stand's opponent was electric in nature

>>386348850
Give it a large startup/cooldown and it is. Nobody picks Elena's healing super art in 3S because of that

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>>386349032
Joseph's epic tricks were total asspulls though, Josuke just took advantage of Crazy Diamond's abilities. Either way, a fighting game works fine for JoJo, yes the characters outwit their opponents more than they just use brute force, but the clever things characters do with their stands can just be different moves you can use.

>>386347016
maybe an action-adventure type game where you play through the manga stories, travelling to different locales with a 3d brawler style combat.

>>386347236
>I've read a 25 year old manga series and now require anons on a Vietnamese puppetry chatroom to explain to me why it's so good

>>386349085
Crazy Diamond cannot heal it's user

>>386348543
>he game would have to have more detail and complexity than any other game ever made for the sole purpose of letting your stand interact with the world in unconventional ways.
Why not do it? Make levels with shitload of complexity, then make it turn-based/realtime with pause so you get time to figure out your moves. Be thorough with your object creation, adding all the relevant modifiers (when making cutlery or pipes or whatever give them all a metallic modifier so electricity and magnetism affects them). You could make up a bunch of stands just for the game too.

>>386347727
Pucci isn't even good in ASB

The argument that canon strength = in game strength is fucking dumb

>>386347380
>and read

>>386347016
a jojo game with dark souls combat and paper mario artstyle made by platinum

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I don't see why the attacks in a JJBA fighter can't just be references to things that happened in the series, like Giorno throwing the Purple Haze snake at his opponent. ASB did it and it was fine.
It fixes a lot of problems like "how do we make a move set for Soft and Wet or King Crimson" while adding some nice fan service.

>>386349772
People like you deserve to be in jail

>>386347285
That's completely irrelevant. Some characters can be OP lore wise but shit in terms of tiers. It's all about the developpers knowing what they're doing

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>>386349772
i fucking spat my water at my computer screen. thank you anon.

>>386348196
Quit being an option select faggot.

>>386347837
Though they have a point, a quality scan and translation can make a world of difference.

>>386349615
Let's just admit that Funny Valentine was passing by...
Does that mean that Josuke could not heal another Josuke ?

>>386349812
It's good but making every damn attack a reference is dumb. It's the reason why all the normals in ASB are trash. Some are just poses without context.

Heritage to the Future with all parts, ASB level fanservice and visuals, with better textures too. And runs at a solid 60.

That's it.

Jojo games rating:
God tier:
Ps2 Vento Aureo game
Good tier:
HFTF
Decent tier:
ASB
Fucking garbage tier:
EOH, PS2 Phantom blood game, any fan made game.

>>386349772
I unironically think this would be great

i just want a good Jojo game with a well made hamon/stand battle system without story shit like hamon beats vampires or shit like that.

>>386350104
yes and no cause hes half kira, so it would be half as effective???

>>386347727
Pucci, Kars, and Giorno had OP as balls transformations that either left them open for a long time or take pretty long to set up, so it balances out.

>>386350291
So...
If we summon 45 Josuke, Josuke would not be healed or it would just be a giant clusterfuck of good health ?

>>386348543
Crazy Diamond could easy just be a character that can set up useful objects and traps. Similar to Beowulf with his chair, Bang with his teleport nails, Birdie with his banana peels, Sub Zero with his ice floor and decoy. Even shit like item management like Cody with his knife and Vega with his claw. There's plenty more examples.

You could potentially just have a few random items on the map or have Josuke place down random objects and then be able to interact with them to do instant, delayed, and triggered follow up attacks that can be placed and utilized in such a way to flank, surprise, and combo extend.

>>386347285
Not only can you defy lore for balance purposes most of the time, even when you can't, you can do shit like Gundam Vs. where you have some sort of resource that you have to spend more of on more OP characters. In that game specifically, each player/team gets a 6000 credits, and getting a mech destroyed subtracts its credit value from your total. You lose when you hit zero. So weak shit gets like 1000 point value where OP protagonist super forms or main villain mechs get 3500.
It's not ideal but there are ways of balancing around lore power if need be.

>>386350521
>45 Josuke
idk what you mean, but if you meant if you summoned more Josuke he would heal them cause it cant heal the user. but they all use the same stand.......................uhhh i guess not then.

>>386350218
Looking at Vento PS2 gameplay now.

A straight up 3D beat em up seems like the best idea for JoJo. I'd rather have that than a fighting game. It would offer much more variety in settings and battles form the actual stories.

>>386350026
>option select faggot
Not him but this is 10x better than "moving the goalposts" ever was, thanks anon.

>>386347121
>tfw HTTF was meant to have a lot more characters than it did, including Caesar, Jonathan and Josuke, as well Enya and various other part 3 villains

>>386350921
Well, if we can admit that there's a unlimited number of dimensions...
Tehn that would mean that if we extract EVERY Josuke from thoses, we would have a way to erase cancer from the face of existence.

>>386351112
>tfw Midler never had a anime appearance

We could had a chance to see some pretty neat gainax bouncing.

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Go ahead and call me a faggot but I want a Jojo game that has an entirely new story written by Araki so that it can compliment the gameplay of it. There will be cameos of other Jojos too.

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>Rerelease of the HD version of HFTF on PS4 never ever

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>All Star Battle was the ultimate fanservice game
>Everyone hates it
How does it get so much hate when it looks so damn good for a JoJo game? The poses and references are nailed, the powers work as close as they can in the manga, just non-stop barrage of service for fans.
How is it that it sucks so bad?

>>386351504
Because it's so incredibly shallow and fanservice is a novelty that doesn't last very long

A game where I can make my own character and stand.
Fight and grind for new abilities and better stats.

>>386351651
>MyNinja
>MyPirate
>MyHokage

MyStand ?

>>386351651
The thought of donut steel Jojos makes me want to puke

>>386348850
Even with Josuke not being able to heal himself, healing is one of those concepts that's always going to be overpowered as fuck in a fighting game unless you give it some huge downside. Giant startup/endlag with no offensive potential, negligible lifesteal on hit (not block) during a timed super, connecting with a really hard to hit super, etc.
Problem with healing in fighting games is that it's basically an easy-to-abuse comeback mechanic and forces your opponent to get aggressive even when it's far from ideal. You can basically rewind any mistakes you've made throughout the game, drawing it out and giving yourself an advantage when you really shouldn't have one (because you got opened up and your opponent beat your face in, i.e. the win condition). Especially given how time outs work, you can literally win by stalemating the match until you find a chance to self-heal and then win by default, which leads to fucking awful gameplay.

>>386347016
Was Jotaro a virgin?

I mean he never really had a love interest and he hated women

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Is there literally any other character from any other manga stronger then Gold Experience Requiem?

>>386351947
He clearly suffered from crippling autism I don't know how he ever had children

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>>386352053

>>386352053
cant tusk negate his shit though? because tusk is the infinity/zero.

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>>386352053
I could name a few just from this series

>>386351287
Does he ever get involved with the video games at all? I get the impression that he doesn't really care about them much, hence the atrocious fanfiction EoH turned out to be.

>>386347236
It's become a meme among the anime community to pretend that JoJo is some incredibly unique, influential anime.

In reality, the only reason for it's sudden popularity is the fact that everyone looks and dresses like fags.

>>386352482
HFTF
He did create the chara design for Midler
And wrote every ending

>>386347016
Also was Dio confirmed bi?

>>386352856
Because everyone secretly agrees that a show that has a lot of fans is actually bad and it's only merit is that the art looks faggy, sure. You do know that the manga was something incredibly unique and pioneered a lot of what is standard in Shonen writing today before it became a show about 2 decades later right?

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>>386353278
Stop responding to trolls already, we're trying to have a thread here.

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>>386351504
All-star battle has really good things but also has bad things. Some non-dlc characters look off, gameplay is really poor as a fighting game and the two cinematic attacks characters have starts to get really repetitive. Heritage for the Future gameplay with Eyes of Heaven 3d and character interactions would be kino.

>>386347236
>I've watched it and read all of it and it's mediocre at best.
You're clearly lying because no one would read 25 years worth of something they think is mediocre.

>>386348543
>tfw no jojo environmental puzzle game

>>386348190
Mah nigga
Get me a good YYH 2D fighter, and I will eat that shit up

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>>386348543
You could make an action/adventure game with Breath of the Wild's physics/chemistry mechanics and have Stando powah replace the Shiekah runes

>>386348190
>good Bleach fighter never ever
I know the manga and the anime both, independently, went to shit, but the character designs are top-tier and the associated powers would be perfect for a fightan game roster

REMEMBUR JOJO ON SNES

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>>386347016
Choose one and only one

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>Last decent Ranma game was on the fucking SNES
>No new media to hype it up
>Dead foreverial
All I want is a modern fighting game.

>>386354240
>kars not having the same bust as dio

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>>386354240
Femmy Valentine 1000%

Nothing more American than a big titty blonde with blue eyes

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>>386354240
Diavolo always wins baby.

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>>386354240
>>386354427
>fem diavolo
>that means fem doppio too
Muh dick.

>>386354240
kira

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>>386347285

Doesn't always work out that way.

>>386354240
>>386354427
v-video games?

>>386347748
it has one though
yes, it's garbage

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>>386354240
BOSS

>>386347727
>Pucci
>Pussy
He's the only antagonist who actually GETS SHIT DONE and kills off the entire cast except for 1 dude.

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>>386354582
What a wonderful character.

>>386350104
If josuke touched himself through D4C he'd become a sponge and die.

>>386354582
>>386354803
What does he do?

>>386354924
Win.

>>386354924
always win

>>386354924
Observe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Fqvd1W358

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I much prefer to have a jojo game that isn't a fighter

I want to explore the settings of each jojo part, like morioh cho, italy, and green dolphin street prison

>>386354924

Insane zoning and combo damage, but maybe the worst is because his neutral and standing block stance has him floating, lows go right under him so high-low mixups are basically useless against Petshop. He can also just fly away and harass with ice missiles.

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>>386352482
As I understand it, he's pretty indifferent to what people do with spinoff content. He 'll often do art for them, but he lets them do what they want otherwise, except for in the case of one of the LNs about Fugo, which he got more involved in because he handled Fugo poorly in the manga. I don't remember if it was PHF or Golden Heart, Golden Ring, though.

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CLAIM YOUR STANDFU

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>>386355090
>because his neutral and standing block stance has him floating, lows go right under him
This is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen in a fighting game. Who thought this was a good idea in any way?

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>>386355215
D4C with eyes.

>>386354148
Bleach dark souls is great though

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I want a Kinnikuman game. No high hopes though since he wasn't even in J Starts Victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFr_BWcQklk

>>386355098

Is that how that bonkers fan novel where Dio and DIO are different people came to be?

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>>386347016
no young joseph
no buy

A Tactical RPG like Fire Emblem.

All the people in this thread arguing over Jojo power levels being too different to balance. Has anyone ever played a DBZ fighting game? You can win as Mr. Satan vs Vegito. How can I get baited this hard? Bait or not I'm salty.

>>386354240
Give me Kira-chan!!! Her beauty HAS NO WEAKNESS!

>>386355218

I guess Capcom was trying to make his design and movements faithful to the manga (Who knows if Araki had any input on it as well), but it gave him a really unfair advantage so I guess they went ahead and sacrificed balance for source material accuracy.

>>386355473
no stroheim
no buy

>>386347683
>>386353576
>How can you call X bad if you never gave it a chance?
>How can you call X bad if you finished it all?
What did they mean by this?

>>386352198
I heard GER is stronger though.

>>386355795
There is a world of difference between giving something a chance and reading all of something that you clearly dislike.

>>386355343
I've been wanting to get into the anime for some time now. Is it good? Also the themes for the characters in that show are god-tier. Sunshine's theme is my absolute favorite.

>>386356063
Not him, but it can be pretty fun desu if you're doing it while shitposting about it with a friend, it just becomes an inside joke at that point

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>>386352053

Shaka

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>>386355380
I imagine so, that and Jorge Joestar. People say he cracked down on the Phantom Blood movie because it wasn't faithful to the manga, but I've never actually seen any evidence of that, and he seems like such a laidback guy that I have a hard time believing it.

>>386347236
Why the fuck are people here obsessed with DBZ? I've watched it and read all of it and it's mediocre at best.

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>>386356435
I've always heard that it was because Speedwagon wasn't in it and because the audience didn't even like it. It's still kind of a shame though, I like the art style and would have liked to see it even if it was mediocre overall.

>>386352053
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Heaven_Ascension_DIO
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/The_World_Over_Heaven

Still Jojo, but it's The World if it went through the same treatment as Gold Experience Requiem. Apparently the idea was mentioned in some bonus material that was basically just Dio's diary (http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/JOJO%27S_BIZARRE_ADVENTURE_OVER_HEAVEN) and got added to Eyes of Heaven as a playable character. He is literally god for all intents and purposes and can control anything and everything.

>>386353278
fist of the north star did it first

>>386356923
What about (Novel) Kars? Also wouldn't Jotaro gain Star Platinum: The World Over Heaven, after beating DIO?

when does stardust crusaders git gud?

I just got to egypt btw.

>>386357781
Around the time when Kira shows up in the next arc.

>>386357956
at this rate I'm not going to make it to that part. how on earth did this boring shit become a sensation.

>>386357781
Around Dio's mansion

>>386357781
egypt is when it starts getting more interesting but part 3 is usually considered one of the worst parts.

>>386358101
well the finale of part 3 is pretty cool.

That and some of the egypt fights are pretty great. Hang in there.

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>>386347121
I've never wanted anything more in my entire life.

>imagining all the glorious sprite work for the characters

If Polnareffs body was dead then how did the turtle survive? And return back to his body after the body swap?

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But the important question is how good will the soundtrack be? ASB and EOH almost didn't deserve the amazing music they had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoQ_jPWoQg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Frwi9mE5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXNjnt3LrSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Ek_1W9wk

>>386358101
I felt the same way, are you watching the anime or reading the manga? I watched the anime first, nearly gave up on finishing it half way through and had to force myself to continue, but when I read the manga I liked it a lot more. The part 3 anime has shit pacing among other issues, although it's still one of my least favorite parts.

Tbh I would be satisfied if they sold basically sold me blazblue with stands.
and Jonathan I guess

>>386347016
I want a game where you can design your own stands and it actually emulates the kind of crazy bullshit that happens in a JoJo fight.

>>386351112
I once heard from somewhere that it was meant to have characters from up to VA, but I don't know if this was true.

>>386358289
Source?

>>386355725
i hate when fighting games do that shit.

>>386358925
Im gonna save you the trouble and tell you its not porn, my friend.

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>>386358925

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>>386359002
>>386359007
Thanks anyway.

>>386358471
DUDE JOSHU'S AND PUCCI'S THEME IS NEXT FUCKING LEVEL.

>>386357221
THIRTY SIX
KARS

ON

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