Is it bad I beat Bloodborne but don't understand wtf was

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>>386329342
me too but it was fun so I don't really care

Neither did the creators

>>386329342
not really as long as you understand the gameplay and enjoy it that's all that really matters with these games.

>>386329342
unlike dark souls, where you can reasonably put together some semblance of story, bloodborne is porpousefully vague on most stuff, like what the fuck yahrnam is for example, or anything about the one reborn

>>386329342
no, it's a video game where you kill shit and whatever lore it has is on the wayside

if you had fun killing shit then you did your part

>>386329342
Like all souls games, the lore is there for you to explore, but it's unnecessary to complete the game. You don't need to understand why everything is happening. Action is enough.

>>386329609
I really loved the aesthetics and the monster designs, discovering new areas was always a treat and felt like my reward for getting there by beating enemies but holy fuck I have no idea what was going on.

Could someone please post the yahrnam at peace art? It had a child. I don't know if it is official art but it looks nice and can't find it on google.

>>386329653
I don't dig too deep into the lore but iirc Yharnam is a pneumarian (the enemies that you find in the chalice dungeons) one of the earlier civilizations to contact the old ones and they paid for it I guess, also the one reborn Is just some abomination man made old one or something like that, coincidentally the main head and torso on top of it looks like the last boss in the dlc

>>386329745

it's just basically cosmic beings taking over and the beast and monsters are just a symptom to what is really going on, it's just lovecraft with beasts with the aesthetics of bram stoker's world

>>386329342
Demon's, Dark 1 and Bloodborne are the only games with a cohesive story to tell.

Dark 2 and Dark 3 go a little overboard with so many vague details they're like living metaphors rather than actual plotlines.

So anyway, there's a blood born illness going around that turns people into beasts and werewolves and they all feed on blood.
This is because the church was handing out some new medicine via injections like the one the player got in the very beginning of the game. They were injecting people with blood of the old one.
For whatever reason, the player needed it (illness? Dying? That's up to you) and got it as well.
So here's the thing.
Everything was fine and dandy but there were unknown side-effects, people turning into beasts. This shit started to go down and hunters began hunting. I think the illness just gets crazy bad on nights of the full moon.

The old one blood was likely taken from the randomly generated dungeons, which reflect the state of a long forgotten civilization that also attempted to use old one blood (or something similar).
The Yharnam Queen was impregnated by an old one, for instance.

The rest you can probably piece together yourself.

>>386330150
Where the fuck did the Aliens come from? The game just shifted from werewolves and witches to Aliens and I just was baffled

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Demon's Souls and Bloodborne is related, right?

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>>386330395
They're not aliens. They're the eldritch beings that have always been around.
The cosmos was never space, it was all around you. Another layer of existence all over the world. That's why when you kill rom, the layers merge and you start seeing them everywhere - you're able to interact with the cosmos now.
It was a really well done turning point.

>>386330546
Same multiverse, I guess.

>>386330395
Aliens were always there. They used fleshy women to breed, which caused the women to ascend to a higher plane of being while the kids would end up in the nonfleshy plane their daddy's resided in. People trying to achieve the same thing without getting knocked up is what caused all the shit to happen because cheaters never win.

>>386329342
Its soulsborne. Anything beyond what you are shown in game or read in game is speculation, and you can't even trust half of the shit you saw in bloodborne to have been the reality of the setting either.
It's basically a method of storytelling for talentless hacks.

>>386330546
I like to think The Old One is exactly like the ones from Bloodborne and he's just one of many. But there's no confirmation.

>>386330546
No

>>386330624
She's gonna catch cold

>>386330849
nah son she gon catch dis dick

>>386330716
I agree with you but it's sad how blood borne actually has a coherent and immersive story, yet it's told like garbage

>>386329342
The Healing Church are a bunch of assholes.

>>386331030
You're going to throw it at her?

>>386330546
That's a big shogoth

>>386331149
>Not having a detachable dick for maximum efficiency

>>386330546
>tfw we'll never get a Demon's Souls sequel that bridges the gap between it and Bloodborne

>Find living corpse of elder god deep underground
>Injecting its blood into people seems to have lots of benefits
>Build entire civilization on the basis of injecting this blood into people
>What could possibly go wrong

>>386330150
What about that part It was all a dream?

>>386331338
I mean really, what would you have done?

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>>386331338
>o shit look at this weird ass thing
>let's inject their blood into us

>>386331451
open my eyes

>>386331437
Dreams are different layers of reality, too.
Just because you wake up doesn't mean your dream wasn't real.
Micolash and his groupies decided mass occult lucid dreaming would be fucking rad only their real forms died in the process.

>>386331480
I guess the healing church is just an organisation of poz breeders

>>386331437
See, that's what I'm confused about. It took place in a dream world, right? So, when Gherman kills you, you just wake up back in the real world? Is real Yharnam still fucked?

>>386331606
Look
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>>386331606
The dream worlds are real, they're just like pocket dimensions.

>>386331480
>Hey yo Yharnamites what up check this sick ass blood it'll make your skin smooth and your dick 3 feet long, you can see in the dark and do calculous and shit
>Oh shit dawg that's the tits whered you get it
>Don't even worry about it
>Aight

>>386329342
I've completed that and DS trilogy without having a fucking clue what was going on storywise.

>>386331606
The Yharnam you wake up in is most likely the same Yharnam you've been playing in, only all the realities have unmerged and things have gone back to normal.

>>386329342
Humans dived into underground crypts and found a dead race and alien blood. They also found magic scriptures. One faction of the humans experimented with the blood to give themselves super human strength and healing powers. The other faction experimented with the magic scriptures and performed human experiments.

For some reason, the humans' activities caused an otherworldly being to mess with the town over and over again.

I'm geniunely too dumb for the Bloodborne story. Still I loved the game.

>>386331719
This is exactly what happened.

Why the fuck didn't they STOP injecting blood to everyone as soon as they noticed they were turning into flesh-hungry beasts?
The transformation after receiving blood seems to be relatively fast but the city looks like it has been in disarray for fucking years, what the fuck happened?

>>386332020
It's made pretty clear that the blood is super addictive, or everyone needs to rely on it once they start taking it.

>>386332020
Partly because they were trying to use the blood to ascend existence. So they have an entire town to experiment on. The townspeople were more then happy considering the blood is clearly addictive and intoxicating.

>>386332020
They were experimenting. The overall goal of the healing church was to become more like the elder gods

>>386332020
These:
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>>386332087
Also the blood is so fucking tangled up in their entire culture, religion, general way of life that it's basically impossible to even begin to extricate it.

What is the best weapon and why is it the Chikage?

>>386332020
Look at the church giants and those smaller church monsters, they were aiming to make themselves super-human.

BYRGENWORTH BYRGENWORTH

>>386329342
Never really cared that much about the plot in soulborne games, all I wanted to do was killing monsters

What's that smell

>>386329342
yes, bloodborne is much more consistent and easy to follow in it's story telling than das

mostly thanks to it borrowing everything from actual books

>>386332306
Are you the guy who started that plagiarism thread? Like 5 minutes ago.

It didn't go well did it?

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Only shit i had a hard time understanding was cainhurst. The fuck where those guys about

>>386332197
BLASPHEMOUS SCHOLARS
BLOOD CRAZED FIENDS

>>386332462
They were desendants of the queen who used blood in a different way that was a lot more in tune with human consciousness. Basically the polar opposite of the space stuff. You control the flesh and blood without giving into bestial urges and live forever. Also vampires vs. werewolves.

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>>386332462
killin plebeians and fucking bitches

>>386332462
Basically the same thing as the rest of Yarnham, but for way fucking longer and with a different type of blood, and with nobles.

>>386331191
https://youtu.be/NQBPgJQhQHc

>>386332462
They were degenerates that needed to be smashed to a pulp, nothing more.

>>386329342
Lore is the distraction for retarded rejects who either can't progress in the game or hate playing games in general.

Literally for retards.

>>386332462
Some pleb from Byrgenwerth wanted some sweet sweet noble pussy so he stole "forbidden" blood from the college and took it to Cainhurst. It wasn't the ayy lmao blood but it did have affects such as longevity and super healing, sometimes to the point of near immortality. So the nobles turned into vampires and had sick ass parties and orgies in Cainhurst and the pleb from Byrgenwerth drowned in sweet pale noble pussy. The fags from the Healing Church got super butthurt because their blood turned people into smelly werewolves instead of sexy vampires so they gave a bunch of retards some wagon wheels and told them the vilebloods were super lame.

THE END

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>>386333139
>a bunch of retards
Words hurt.

bloodborne really needs to be played a couple times for you to get a handle on the story. there's a reason it hints about the secret ending to you with the "three third cords" note. the thing about bloodborne is it doesn't really have a single cohesive storyline, it's more about lots of smaller stories about different people and organizations after an initial discovery of a greater power is made, and you need to understand all of them before the bigger picture becomes clear

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What is the night of the hunt? The way the citizens say it sound like it's a normal thing.

>>386333406
godamm i loved that fight. sucks that marias wasn't as cool because of parries

>>386333406
>Blood ministration creates monsters
>Instead of getting rid of it they just periodically hold hunts to clear the streets of monsters so people can get to work and not be stuck in werewolf traffic

I beat the game 5 times, including a 100%, before just reading that 200 page thesis on google docs explaining the story and lore
I feel like the game would've been better with a DaS1 style intro giving us more than a vague idea of the story, to give the player a little bit more to go on when exploring the rest of it

>>386333285
This is a picture of a guinea pig.

>>386332240
Its bluud

>>386333507
but isn't it just a dream? or did the dream stuff only kick in after Rom?

>>386333818
Dreams are just a different reality, albiet with looser rules as to what is possible

>>386333535
If anyone actually wants to read it, search up "The Paleblood Hunt". It answers pretty much everything in-game

>>386329342
Absolute kino moment. 10/10

>>386331606
Just look it in another way. Bloodborne plays a lot with the same reality taking place in differente planes or layers of existence connected and merged and at the same time not.

It's a take in cosmic horror. You can even see the different layers in the game by looking around in the nightmare zones wich are connected to the "normal" ones.

>>386333859
so are the citizens of Yharnam inside a dream or in the real world?

>>386334523
Yes

>>386334523
All the places you go are 'real'.

But Yharnam would be classified as the human world.

>>386329550
>tfw when you're a victorian wizard pushing the boundary of science and magic and your victorian hunter doesn't want you to continue

>>386334523
Both you fuckmunch.

>>386329342
it's like that by design. The game's creator got the idea to make stories like this when he was learning english, he would try to read books but not be able to read every word so he would get bits and pieces of the plot and had to fill in the details himself. Most of the "story" in these games is conveyed by the short descriptions from the items.

>>386334523
If you're confused about why the main character "wakes up" after Gehrman lops your head off take a look at where he kills you.
It's a place called "The Hunter's Dream."
Yharnam is just Yharnam.
Rom was stopping Micolash from using the baby's wailing to call down old ones onto the world and merge dream and reality layers.
When you kill rom, shit merges and everything gets fucky.
Killing Mergo's wet nurse destroys the nightmare and everything goes back to normal - but you've experienced too much and you'll forever see shit you're not supposed to.
Gehrman takes pity on you and cuts your head off, freeing you from the nightmare that you were bound to by old one blood.

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>I know I look like a hideous mutant freak with no legs and considering what you've run into out there, it would be completely understandable if you decided to lop me head off, but could you do me a solid and go look for survivors in an obviously dead town filled with horrible beasts? If you do, please tell them to come here where they'll be safe even though I look like a monster. I promise I have no ulterior motives.

All he wanted was some friends

>>386330546
In the original Alpha trailer, Gascoigne said "Umbasa.." and he's a referred to as a cleric from a foreign land.

Unfortunately that's about as far as it goes.

>>386329653
One Reborn is a failed/incomplete attempt at creating a Great One, which was formed by sacrificing the citizens of Unseen Village. This is why there are petrified citizens climbing and fleeing in terror near the boss room, and why there are enemies made of bound corpses throughout the area.

Yharnam is more complicated, but she was basically the mother of Mergo, a Great One infant that's kind of the key to everything.

Just watch the VaatiVidya videos.

>>386335018
He has legs. And an ass. Place the camera behind him and pan it down. Enjoy your boney monster butt.

>>386334910
>When you kill rom, shit merges and everything gets fucky.
>Killing Mergo's wet nurse destroys the nightmare and everything goes back to normal - but you've experienced too much and you'll forever see shit you're not supposed to.
>Gehrman takes pity on you and cuts your head off, freeing you from the nightmare that you were bound to by old one blood.
This Part doesn't sound right. Pretty sure this isn't true.

>>386335343
Gehrman frees you from the hunter's dream now that your purpose has been fulfilled. Killing Gehrman means you take his place. Killing Moon Presence ascends you beyond humanity.

I want to _____ Vicar Amelia

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>>386335193
People give Yahar'ghul a lot of flack and say it's a bad level but fuck I love it's design both pre and post Rom.
>Get snatched and put in the wacky sack
>Wake up to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQcKBUcgmA and immediately get the feeling you should get the fuck out
>Potentially the first area you see the Amygdala statues

and then there's post Rom
>The hallway filled with bodies trying to get to safety
>The mass of corpses piled at the gate
>People who handled the revelation so fucking poorly they exploded and are constantly immolating

>>386335412
kill

>>386335343
Rom is meant to be keeping the cosmic fuckery from being seen, is what I think it meant to be going on. As in, it's already happening but hidden from regular people, and when you kill Rom suddenly you can see all the bad shit going down.
This is also backed by the fact that you can see the lesser amygdala who are already settled in once you gain enough insight.

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>>386335467
:(

This game would be far less confusing if bosses dropped some kind of item that explained things about them.

>>386335734
Can't really see what more we would need to learn about them. They seem obvious enough.

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>>386335412
give belly scratches to

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>>386335845

>>386335830
I'd like to know more about Rom for instance.

>>386335420
I love it. I think it's a great level even from a gameplay perspective. I hate Mensis, though.

>>386335412
PET

>>386329342
Not at all. The lore isn't intrusive to the gameplay for a reason. You don't have to delve into it if you're just in it for the gameplay.

>>386336098
Read the Paleblood Hunt google doc. The theory is that Rom was a human infant the Willem and the other Bygernwerth scholars tried to turn into a great old one

>>386336098
Rom was created using the corpse of Kos taken from the fishing hamlet by old hunters, specifically Gherman and his student Mariah and/or the old blood from the tombs of the Pthermeurians. Specifically, Rom was likely made using the blood though because something made Willhem decide that it was the key to ascension. The cord and the fact that Rom was human is hinted at by notes in the lecture hall and college.

>>386335420
It's the part with the lazer fags that is awful not those parts.

Alfred did nothing wrong.

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>>386335412
I'll post Thiccar Amelia

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>>386337403

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>>386337403
Why do people want to fuck Amelia when the obviously superior Gascoigne exists?

>>386336098
From what I've gathered and understood, Rom was a citizen of Byrgenwerth that broke through the insight barrier by using the eyes and blood of those that came close to doing it but failed. Whether it was it's choice or not is speculation but what little evidence there is points to no.

Upon discovering that the old ones didn't need to be called to Yharnam because they were already there, Byrgenwerth made the decision to use Rom and cast a web to hide the fact from the citizens so they wouldn't go insane.

A lot of people wanted what Rom had, the ability to know, see and hopefully understand the old ones, tried to copy it and failed numerous times. Eventually the science devolved into a myth where Rom would be considered an old one himself and people would pray for enlightenment, even going as far as to dig into the old research and copy it.

One such person was Micolash who managed to break through the barrier after studying the now forbidden by the church Byrgenwerth and tried to copy it, turning his peers into monsters, creating the nightmare and starting the Mensis ritual.

>>386337726
I could imagine if you're a female who find serial killers hot for some reason.

>Finish the game
>Instant urge to replay it
Never had this before

>>386329342
As long as you're enjoying yourself that's what matters

So is there any place in the bloodborne world that's not all fucked up and sad? Like a regular city or town?

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>>386338419

>>386338419
death

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>>386337476
This one is shitty, but it's cute af.

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>>386338419
No. Yharnam isn't the first or only city to suffer the plague of beasts.

>>386329342
Nope.
Not knowing fuckall is a perfectly reasonable way to go through this game, and actually roleplays into probably a bunch of the preselect player-character background archetypes.
The narrative is actually pretty neat, unlike the Dark Souls games, but ignoring it and just appreciating the mystery is fine too.

>>386339342
name other ones

>>386340724
Loran. The item description on the chalice says as much.

>"A chalice that breaks a labyrinth seal."

>"Loran is a tragic land that was devoured by the sands."

>"The tragedy that struck this ailing land of Loran is said to have its root in the scourge of the beast."

>"Some have made the dreaded extrapolation that Yharnam will be next."

>>386330624
WRONG

Theres dream ayys and space ayys

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Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the ruin of our race.

>>386342054
Holy shit this is sad.

>>386342054
I dont fucking get it

>>386342476
It's about the poor sick guy at the beginning of the game. How the Hunter returns to him and it gets worse and worse and you can't do anything about it, just watch.

>>386342054
thanks for the flamethrower bud

Outside of you being stuck in a nightmare I literally gathered nothing else. The church gave people blood that makes them werewolves I guess. Some of the things characters said were so cryptic, just namedropping random shit, It was actually laughable

>>386329939
>aesthetics of bram stroker
It's called victorian, there are places that look like yharnam irl

>>386329342
Personally I found the story of Bloodborne to be one of the most straightforward.

>>386343274
better than dark souls imo

>>386335018
Is it generally agreed upon that Oedon was using him to get the whore/potential surrogates into the chapel?

not really. something about being stuck in a dream where everyone is obsessed with blood and the hunters of monsters are turning into the monsters they're hunting and the friendly NPC at the start is the one keeping you in it.
That's literally about as much as I knew about the overall plot by the end of the game without looking up lore videos.

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>>386344313
wtf no he's just a really nice guy

why would you say that

really

fuck you

>>386340724
Loran, and probably Pthumeru Ihyll.

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>>386342054

>You couldn't save him.
>You couldn't save anyone.
>You couldn't even save a little girl.

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>>386344898
>the little girl kills herself

what's the great ones' origin?

some of them come from space, some from the depths of the sea and some live in the dreams
also it's possible to turn regular humans into minor great ones as well

>>386346597
>also it's possible to turn regular humans into minor great ones as well
It's actually super not. Most of the attempts at minor great ones failed incredibly hard. Rom is retarded and is pretty much just a living arcane conduit that can't do anything. The One Reborn needed an incredibly large sacrifice, and it was cobbled together from human parts looking nothing like a great one.

The most the Choir managed to accomplish was turning humans into those bubble-headed ayylmaos, but there's indication of those being accurate

As for the Great Ones' origin? Fucking magic

>>386346913
Good Hunter turns into a great one.

>>386346597
They exist in another dimension alongside ours and always have been. That revelation is what causes people to go mad and why the world goes to shit.

>>386347028
Fair point, but after consuming the three/four umbilical cords I would argue the Good Hunter was no regular human

>>386347158
Yeah, because they ascended. They certainly started human.

>>386347158
It's insight.

The game data states that increasing insight reduces beasthood and vice versa.

Considering you always inject yourself with blood, you can assume you either turn into a beast, or ascend into demi-godhood.

what killed all the snatchers in your second visit to yahar'gul?
why did it change so much in so little time? was the first yahar'gul just an illusion?

>>386347673
>what killed all the snatchers in your second visit to yahar'gul?

All the new monsters?

Has anyone ever been able to figure out the point of the story? Dark Souls is retard proof easy to figure out, the whole nature of life and fear of death thing, and I haven't played Demons but apparently it's about greed or something, but what the hell is Bloodborne about?

The first half when it focuses on the hunt has some elements of the cyclical nature of violence, but once we enter the Ayys, I got nothing. Something about reproduction maybe? I don't know. Maybe I'm just retarded, but I am entirely unable to figure out what the hell the thematic core of Bloodborne is.

>>386349645

The main theme is finishing your essay on your own, nerd.

>>386330546
If any of From's games are related, its Lost Kingdoms and Demons, since LS2 final boss seems to be the giant slug thing from Demons, and would be using the exact same tactics of ''sit around make mist'' if it wasn't enslaved.

>>386347673
I think they just died. The ritual was almost complete. They didn't need sacrifices any more.

>>386349645
curiosity kills the cat

>>386349645
Hubris.

"Humanity is great, fuck yeah. Inject ourselves with monster blood to get superpowers, what could go wrong?"

>>386329342
That's kind of the point. It's a scary confusing mess and you not knowing anything adds to the spookiness.

Why do people complain about the FPS when the game is so detailed and complicated in design?

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So what's this guys deal? Because from my understanding, he helping humanity out by empowering the hunters to take out the other old ones, but am I missing something?

>>386352083
Lady Maria was the best boss fight in the entire series. She saved the DLC.

>>386352023
He's just using them. Just when Gherman dies he descends to put you in his place like nothing happened, but when you consumes three umbilical cords he freaks out since you're a serious threat to him now with the Great Ones' power in you.

>>386352450
She didn't save it because there was nothing that needed saving. The DLC was great and Maria was just part of it.

>>386352524
>He's just using them.
To what end?

>>386352450
Maria was too easy and she smells.

>>386349645
all lovecraftian stories are ultimately about mankind's insignificance

>>386352083
>>386352450
Lies, as in the story? You know Byrgnwerth and Willem fucked up when you reach the Fishing Hamlet. Used to think they're the good guys but the poor fishman cursing them made me change my view.

>>386352774
But every single Old One can't get enough of mankind, need mankind to reproduce, get a saw shoved in their faced by a man, and a man ultimately becomes one of them.

>>386332020
>Why the fuck didn't they STOP drilling for oil as soon as they noticed they were making the planet hotter?

>>386332020
The transformations don't take place immediately, it lies dormant and is activated by violence and magic horseshit. By the time it became a problem, the Church was controlled everything, everyone was addicted, and everyone was already susceptible. Worse, you had places like Old Yarham where a plague would have wiped it out anyway if not for the blood.

>>386352023
Its dying and wants offspring, using a host that has proven itself capable by consuming the cords. It has created a safe space in the Hunters Dream that will be caretook by the Doll during it possible hundred of years long infancy.

>>386352618
He's farming blood echoes.

>>386355324
It doesn't want the Hunters to consume the cords, it's tries to consume you and repurpose you, then when the magical Old God juice stops it, it tries to murder the Hunter, before it gets killed by said Hunter. I think the more likely explanation is that, since the moon triggers everything going batshit, that it was trying to stir up the city by making the Hunt eternal, draw it into a Nightmare, and create the conditions for a more "normal" Old God birth.

Then the Hunter just kind of bumble fucks his way into sort of completing its plan.

>>386347673
While you were killing Rom, the cultists moved everyone into an area to be sacrificed to make the One Reborn.

Reminder that the whole game takes place inside of a dreamscape, that the Yarham you play in is trapped in a single night stretched out into eternity until a new Old God could be conceived.

>>386355919
Sure, if you look at MP as being some kind of lame villain. It doesnt say anywhere that the MP doesnt want you to consume the cords but game states multiple times that the Great Ones want offspring but are incapable of doing it by themselves. MP doesnt achieve this, or anything, through creating an eternal hunt, especially when it looks like its dying anyway. It wants to reproduce by testing its surrogate, the last test being itself.

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>>386329342
Naah fromsoft is to lazy to put a story so they write some vague shit and copy a few stuff from berserk and call it a day.

>>386356754
>It doesnt say anywhere that the MP doesnt want you to consume the cords but game states multiple times that the Great Ones want offspring but are incapable of doing it by themselves.
And we see multiple examples of how they set about doing it. They find surrogate parents to give form to the flesh of their children, because they aren't creatures of flesh anymore. None of them ever once tried to turn a human into their offspring.

>MP doesnt achieve this, or anything, through creating an eternal hunt, especially when it looks like its dying anyway.
The Hunt is what breaks down the borders of reality and turns Yarham into a seething mass of maddened humanity. It got it far enough to give birth to three failed offspring (one too human, one without flesh, and Iosefka's which I don't know why it didn't work).

And why on earth do you think it was dying?

>It wants to reproduce by testing its surrogate, the last test being itself.
It screamed in anger and surprise when it was rebuffed, then tried to eviscerate the Hunter. And why would it need to test an offspring by fighting it? This isn't a shonen anime, being good at stabbing shit doesn't equate to viability of ascension.

>>386334910
This simply isn't true. If you get enough Insight you are able to see the Amygdalas, without killing ron, showing you the great ones have always been there.

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>>386329794
Here u go bruv

>>386329609
What about if
I stopped enjoying it about halfway through but now just want to finish it so I can play Breath of the Wild? (And I'll probably have the same thing happen in BotW just like almost every game I play).

>>386329342
You need more eyes, OP.

It is not necessary to enjoy the game, but man does it make it that much better once you do. Especially when you figure out how insight works.

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