How can Street Fighter ever recover? https://capcomprotour.

noooo this was tekkens turn its not fucking fair

>>386230581
Novril and his cronies are crying hard

>>386230581
Now imagine SSFV being good.

>>386230581
That's pretty neat. I don't play Street Fighter but I like watching it at Evo. I'm too casual for it. The combo timing isn't as lenient as the games I'm used to (ArcSys games). I suck at links no matter what character I try.

>>386231170
have you actually tried SFV? they added a very lenient input buffer in that after SF4 which had none and tons of 1f links.

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>5 million viewers on TV
>Only 100K sales between 2016 and 2017

Who is the one #LeftBehind?

>>386231242
He is wrong about the leniency but something about SFV's timing always feels off to me. Don't think it is the input lag either

>>386231361
hitstop/stun might be too different for you.
thats something that different across all games, can feel either easier or harder to transition to another game based on that.

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>>386231242
>>386231361
I've tried SFV, yeah. But what trips me up is that I learned how to do combos in games like BlazBlue and P4U. They're really easy even though they're long because for the most part unless there's intentionally a delay in part of the combo, timing isn't really a factor. You're just quickly inputting one move after the next. It's hard for me to develop the sightly slower and more deliberate muscle memory you seem to need for Street Fighter combos.

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>>386231837
I'm too lazy to memorize BB strings and combos.

>>386231467
Might be. It is always slow when I go fast and fast when I go slow. I never really have this trouble moving between other games

>>386231837
I don't think it is a SF thing, go try and do SF4 trials. Outside 1 frame links it is all pretty smooth

>>386231986
I don't have SF4 unfortunately. But I'll probably keep trying at SFV when I'm not playing uniel.

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>put game on twitch, ESPN, Disney XD
>DUDE LOTS OF PEOPLE WATCHED THIS LOOK SFV IS POPULAR YOU WERE LEFT BEHIND

Not impressive desu

>>386231170
Try Kum if you want to get use to sf link system. 5 has a pretty huge buffer window so sounds like you just need to play a character with a similar concept to get use to it.

>>386232251
If it got at least a few of those people watching on TV to pick up a fighting game it was worth it.

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>>386230581
What kind of wording is that?

>>386232579
Yeah why didn't they just say like "Street Fighter V at Evo 2017 was the most viewed fighting game event ever" or something

>>386232529
Maybe they will get lucky with Disney crowd but sales of SFV did not budge an inch last year after it being on ESPN for both Evo and Capcom Cup

>>386232680
Man I don't care about their sales figures. They could buy the game used. I just want more people to play fighting games.

>>386232579
Even if they want to use that odd wording there's a couple spots that are just flat out wrong. Should be "Street Fighter V Evo 2017 finals viewership the highest ever for a FGC event"

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Are they paying ESPN/Disney for the display or are those paying Capcom for it?

>>386232680
It is kind of a dirty secret with esports, it turns the group from players to viewers. The bigger it gets a smaller percentage will play or play regularly.

Problem is SFV lacks a good initial install base and is kinda expensive to get into at this point.

>>386232529

Considering the PS4 version sold about as well as the 3DS port of 4 it probably isn't. If anything events like these probably turn away people as it makes the game look difficult and inaccessible.

>>386232982
>dota 2 700k~ players
>1 million viewers for TI
>sc2 30k~ players
>20k viewers for big tournaments
Nice meme my dude.

>>386232982
There will no doubt be a "Super SFV" packaging soon with all costumes and DLC characters from first two season passes.

>>386233238
>>dota 2 700k~ players
>>1 million viewers for TI
So more viewers than players, thanks for proving my point.

>sc2
Is seen as a dead game in esports, for years now.

>>386233367
SC2 is just an example of a small esport, Dota2 is far from having its playerbase turned into viewers.
LoL has like 10 million players or so and recently had 1m viewers tuning in for its most important tournament.
I know /v/ has no fucking idea about what they're talking about half of the time, but thinking every esport turns into m-muh stream monsters is retarded.

>>386232982
>and is kinda expensive to get into at this point.
Nah. I've seen the core game and both seasons together on sale for like 40-60.

Hell core game+S1 for 30$ is all you need, unlocking characters past that is really easy.

Completionists who want all cosmetics will get fucked though.

>>386230581

SFV Top 8 was actually really hype this year. Last year it was a fucking snooze fest. Charlie vs. Chunners, boring defensive play and broken characters. This year, there was real drama, and great play. Tokido working his way from Losers, after Punk sent him there. Punk, the new kid on the block, at only 18 tearing through seasoned veterans. Emotion, drama, tears, it had it all.

>>386235035
Unfortunately it's pretty obvious Punk is a one hit wonder. Every year has someone like that who does super well throughout the first half of the year then gets shut down during the summer majors and disappears.

He went too far too fast.

Having a great rookie season is a death curse.

>>386234820
>on sale for like 40-60.
maybe in a steam sale but it isn't usually in one

Steam- £67 for everything, £35 base
PSN - £55 for everything, £35 base

Most of the time it is a lot of money to get into. At this point you could easily get Super for £30, which did come with more shit

>>386235186

Often times it's just a player using a broken character, who, through luck got into top 8. Because the character is broken, any random player using it will get a huge advantage. Punk was using Karin, who isn't broken at all. I suspect he'll go far.

>>386235330
You say that but go watch footage of Punk from throughout the current CPT. He's got the same problem a lot of the one year wonders have.

He can't adjust and has no stamina. He's a short distance sprinter, not a full fledged runner.
Even the way he's hyped by commentators follows all the one year wonder players.

He'll be broken by the start of the fall majors because everyone will know his game style. The end of the year majors are always where the balance is disrupted.

Remember last year? Nuckledu dominated the back half all the way to Capcom Cup even after his disastrous first half of the year.

>>386230581
The only thing I watched out of EVO this year were the Dragon Ball FighterZ exhibition tournies.

>>386235716
Jesus how terrible. The playerbase made the game look shallow as fuck even for an alpha exhibition. We can only hope that it's because the players are ass and can't pick up how the game should be played.

>>386235198
the game is seriously more often on sale than its not.

its also 18$ on amazon.com. regular steam and PSN prices are a ripoff.

>>386235198

The game is regularly on sale for 20 USD or less

And let's be honest, the majority of the players aren't interetted I'm every single DLC char. Doing the basic modes that any casual can mash through will get you enough FM for about two or three at minimal

>>386232914

Depends. If they are only speaking only about Evo, it is correct

>>386232914
>>386239004

looks as though they need to amend the topic then

What other games were even broadcast on TV? I love it when they say that X game has Y viewers but they never mention anything for other games to at least give them some attention.