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Oh look, confirmation from actual Nintendo employees rather than a third party journalism website:
>Fusion Mode is indeed a hard mode (the hardest mode, even) and not just a skin
>All of the post game bonuses require amiibo.
https://nintendotreehouse.tumblr.com/post/163685592132/metroid-samus-returnsamiibo-functionality
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I wanted these Amiibo anyway but...

Fuck Nintendo. Keep slipping down that slope why don't ya.
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Those figures are of really good quality.

They looked so nice that I was actually tempted, for once, to finally buy an amiibo figure.

But now, I have heard they are needed to unlock hard mode and that make me not want to buy them anymore. Now I am really disgusted by buuying one.

Does that make any sense?
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might as well post the other.
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>>386225978
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Bonus content aside, those feature
>Scan this amiibo to unlock an Aeion reserve tank that serves as an emergency backup power supply

>Scan this amiibo to use the Metroid Marker function, which gives you a look at where the next Metroid you need to hunt down is hiding

>Scan this amiibo to unlock a missile reserve tank. Run completely out of missiles, and this tank automatically replenishes your supply by a set amount.

>Scan this amiibo to unlock an energy reserve tank. This reserve tank automatically refills your energy meter by a set amount, keeping you alive for just a little bit longer if your main energy (aka life) pool runs out.

I actually had no issue with. They kind of only make sense as an interraction with the figure and wouldn't seems really fun to use as an ingame feature.

Plus, it's basically locking casual players who want the game to be easier behind a paywall.
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>>386225978
So what you're really saying is the game has a Hard mode and this unlocks a gimmick hard mode.
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>>386227218
thats the show off model

remember marth?
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Nah, still not getting any amiibos, even if the squishy metroid is pretty cute.

Still getting the game though.
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>>386227494
?
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>it's okay when nintendo does it!
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>>386227616
This meme doesn't work if basically everyone is complaining about it.
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>>386227679
So like everytime that meme comes out?
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>amiibo is here to stay

Im pretty much done with nintendo now.
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>>386227569
First pic is what they showed
Second is what we got
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>>386225978
So it's 2 art galleries and a sound test. Not a deal breaker.

Fusion Mode is the real kicker and it sucks that it's locked behind an amiibo. I notice that they say Fusion Mode is not only a hard mode, but the hardest mode. So I still firmly believe that Hard Mode is something that will be available to all players once completing the game.
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>>386227894
Second was actually a misprint anon.
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>>386228019
yeah mine looks different but is still not what they showed us
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>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock a gallery of artwork from the original Game Boy game Metroid II: Return of Samus. (Galleries can be reached via the Options menu.) There’s no specific in-game benefit to this content, but it’s a pretty sweet little blast from the past.

>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock Fusion mode, the game’s hardest difficulty mode. It’s the ultimate test for hardcore fans, and as an added bonus you get to play as Samus in her Fusion suit in Fusion mode.

>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock a gallery of artwork from this release. It’s pretty nifty to compare the concept art from this title with the original game’s concept illustrations if you’ve unlocked them with the new Samus amiibo as well.

>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock the Sound Test feature. This’ll enable you to listen to BGM tracks from the game.

Okay, I am most definitely desperate to still consider this, but they are not saying this the ONLY way to unlock the content. Like in Star Fox Zero, where the amiibo content could be unlocked if you managed certain achievement.

Like casual need to buy the amiibo and just finish the game to have access to that content, but for example, for gamer who finish the game at 100%, it unlock the hard mode, or under 2 hours and it unlock one of the gallery, or and again unlocking with 100% on hard and les than 2 hours on hard.

I would even be okay if the Fusion skin was still amiibo exclusive.
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>>386227894
>>386228145
This is early production. All the amiibo who have come up since have got excellent quality production.
Try to find someone disapointed by one of their Breath of the will Amiibo, if you don't believe me.
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Why the fuck do you have to beat the game to unlock hardest mode? Can we please stop with this shit nintendo?
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>>386228334
>they want you to play through the game once before playing gimmick mode
Oh no, the humanity.
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>>386228218
Don't get me wrong I enjoy the amiibo and their current quality. I was expecting better from them on the first smash wave.
Best amiibo) Wooly yoshi
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>>386225978
The worst part is that people would still fucking buy the amiibo even if they didn't unlock anything in games. Nintendo is actively ruining their games for no reason.
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All the scamming aside, I find it actually a nice touch that using the larva Metroid amiibo is what unlock the Fusion skin, as it is precisely that larva from which the DNA was extracted and used to save Samus, in the Fusion game.

It's like you "fuse" the metroid amiibo with the Samus in the game.
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>>386228398
Explain how this is ruining the game
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>>386228461
Forcing you to buy figurines to get a complete game. DLC has the same problem but at least it's not physically sold in limited quantities.
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>>386228398
This.

I will end up having all 4 Metroid Amiibo along with the limited edition version of Samus Returns, but because I have a 3DSXL, I wont actually be able to use the features they unlock unless I pay for the amiibo reader.
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>>386228516
>get a complete game
???
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>>386228461
Are you retarded
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>>386228649
not an argument
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>Deprive Metroidfags of their favorite series for so many years
>"Please buy all the additional toys if you want all of the on-disk content :)"
>Game can't be 100%'d without amiibo thanks to amiibo-exclusive energy and missile reserve tanks

Jesus christ, first Hey Pikmin with an entire page of Amiibo-exclusive treasures and now this.
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>>386228334
>Can we please stop with this shit nintendo?
>Nintendo
You do realise that nearly every game does this?
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>>386228649
No? I can live without a gimmick mode
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>>386228558
The game isn't complete if you don't have access to all the difficulty setting.
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>>386228871
Eh, extra gimmick modes don't really count
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>>386228821
>I don't want this so it's not bad
No surprise a Nintenchíld has this mentality.
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>>386228920
That's not what I said
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>>386228693
They're just recreating the same exact thing the last time Metroid was dead for 8 years

>Hey you want all the content that's already on disk?
>Well buy both games both consoles a link cable for both and you can have it :)
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>>386228912
>Very hard mode
>a gimmick
???
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>>386228912
Difficulty setting isn't an extra gimmick but is an integral part of many games.
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>>386228986
>not called hard mode
>called another game
>is clearly a gimmick
>not in the original Gameboy game
>INTEGRAL!
lol
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>>386228970
>Very Hard mode
You mean Fusion mode, not very hard mode
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>>386228969
>>Well buy both games
Well, at least by having to buy for a game to have additional content, you ended up with a game.

Also, it was only a skin. I have no issue with DLC who are just cosmetic.
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>>386229029
>>not called hard mode
https://nintendotreehouse.tumblr.com/post/163685592132/metroid-samus-returnsamiibo-functionality
>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock Fusion mode, the game’s hardest difficulty mode.
>the game’s hardest difficulty mode.
It's still an hard mode regarldess of how it is called. You'll have to demonstrate me how giving a fancy name to an hard mode reduce the hard mode to a gimmick, there.

>>is clearly a gimmick
Hardmode in video game have never been a gimmick.

>>not in the original Gameboy game
>>INTEGRAL!
>lol
And? It's a remake, almost a brand new game, compared to the original, not a copy pasta. You are not making any point there.
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>>386228740
The difference is that non-Nintendo games aren't braindead easy on the forced normal difficulty.
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>>386229076
>You mean Fusion mode, not very hard mode
And? it's still
>the game’s hardest difficulty mode.
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>>386229359
>It's still an hard mode regarldess of how it is called
A gimmick mode regardless of how you spin it.
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>Amiibo-exclusive fusion suit
>Amiibo-exclusive missile and energy reserve tanks
>tfw this is becoming a reality
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>>386228370
>before playing gimmick mode
Hard mode in video game have never been gimmick.
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>>386229462
Right, and this is Fusion mode. Not "Hard mode"
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>>386229359
None of that states that Fusion mode is exclusive to the amiibo, just that you can unlock it with the amiibo if you beat the game at least once.
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>>386229427
>A gimmick mode regardless of how you spin it.
Hard mode in video game have never been a gimmick.
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>>386229132
Yeah but it's a game you hate. Who wants to buy a shitty first person shooter?
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>>386229516
Right and this is 'Fusion mode', not 'Hard mode'
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>>386229493
Fusion mode is the hardest mode of this game, just because it is being given a fancy name doesn't mean it stop being Hardest mode.
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>>386229493
>Playing word games because you don't have an argument
Fusion Mode is very hard mode you fucking retard.
It's a harder version of hard mode where Samus wears the Fusion suit.
The hardest difficulty is locked behind amiibo and it's not a gimmick mode. It's jsut a harder version of hard mode.
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>>386229516
until it required a toy, (((sold seperately))), to access it
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>>386229605
>Fusion Mode is very hard mode
No, it's clearly not
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>>386229507
This is what we are hoping as stated there >>386228160
already, but so far, nothing has been indicative of it.
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>>386229636
>No, it's clearly not
It is:
https://nintendotreehouse.tumblr.com/post/163685592132/metroid-samus-returnsamiibo-functionality
>>Beat the game at least once and then tap this amiibo to unlock Fusion mode, the game’s hardest difficulty mode.
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>>386229696
>It is
The VERY link you posted contradicts you
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>>386229076
Do you think that giving difficulty settings names changes something?
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>>386227218
I feel the exact same way. The Metroid one is rad as fuck but fuck them for this bullshit. Speculators will be getting them all now anyway.
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>>386229718
>The VERY link you posted contradicts you
No, it doesn't.
It outright say:
> tap this amiibo to unlock Fusion mode, the game’s hardest difficulty mode
>the game’s hardest difficulty mode
> hardest difficulty mode
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>>386229718
>inb4 merely pretending when you've been BTFO enough times
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>>386225978
I thought everyone had already hacked their 3ds, it literally isn't a problem at all since there are 3ds apps that emulate amiibos.
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>>386229749
>Do you think that giving difficulty settings names changes something?
No?
>>386229779
>link proves it's an extra gimmick mode
>b-btfo
Sad
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>>386229542
>>386229493
According to your logic "Lunatic"/"Infernal" modes have always been gimmick modes because they aren't called "Very hard"
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>>386229830
>>link proves it's an extra gimmick mode
No, the link outright prove the amiibo unlock the hardest difficulty mode
>tap this amiibo to unlock Fusion mode, the game’s hardest difficulty mode
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>>386229830
>link explains it's the hardest difficulty where samus just wears the fusion suit
>i-i-it's a gimmick guiz...
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>>386229870
No, that isn't "according to my logic". Stop putting words in my mouth
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>>386227494
Those were only an issue with early amiibo. Everyone will confirm you they all look fantastic, now.
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>>386229884
>the link outright prove the amiibo unlock the hardest difficulty mode
A gimmick mode can be hard anon.
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>>386225978
>metroid amiibo is both easy and hard mode
>metroid amiibo can't even fit in its tank
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>>386229998
I can't put anything on your mouth when it's filled with dicks.
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>>386229998
That's you exact same logic though. giving an hard mode a fancy name make them gimmick. That's what you said.
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>>386230062
>no argument so I must shitpost
Ok, thanks for clearing that up
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>>386230050
And what is Fusion Mode's gimmick?
>inb4 taking more damage
Literally what a harder difficulty is.
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>>386230102
>That's you exact same logic
I get it, ESL? It might be a translation problem for you.
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>>386230176
>I have no argument so I must pick apart a mistake someone made while typing
loving
every
laugh
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>>386230240
Don't be so harsh on yourself anon
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>>386230176
>no argument so I must shitpost
Ok, thanks for clearing that up
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>>386230340
Woops, meant for >>386230240
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>>386230340
>Calls Fusion Mode a gimmick
>Can't explain why Fusion Mode is a gimmick
>Only argument that Fusion Mode is a gimmick is that it's called Fusion Mode
>Despite official sources saying it's the game's hardest mode it's apparently a gimmick mode
>Apparently that logic doesn't apply to when other games that call higher difficulties other names like Lunatic Mode etc

Who doesn't have the argument again?
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>>386230627
See >>386230050
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>>386227563
Im gonna buy the amiibos and pirate the game fuck mercury steam
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The cool European edition with all the trinkets is sold out by now, right?
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>>386227435
Except that the hardmode is behind a paywall as well...
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>>386225978
that's a guaranteed piracy for me
Nintendo truly is scum of the earth right now
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>>386231968
A hard mode, not the.
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>>386231756
Yes, but Nintendo's own store released more stock 2 days ago (that also sold out.) Since they restocked once, there;s always a chance they'll restock again if you keep an eye out.
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Please god, let there still be a still completion screen and not some animated shit. I want my pure 2d waifu when i speed run it 100%
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>>386231968
>Except that the hardmode is behind a paywall as well
Hence why I said "bonus content aside". I was specifically talking about the things I quoted and nothing else.
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>>386231968
The hardEST mode is behind a paywall.
Not the hard mode
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>>386232125
>>386232068
WEll unless you are a giant nigger faggot who doesn't consider only the hardest difficulty as hard could you make that point. But I guess it's already established that you don't have an argument so you've resorted to just shitpost at this moment.

Here's your free (you), you disgraceful piece of shit.
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>>386232096
The animation in Prime Hunter was rather good:
http://orig00.deviantart.net/9f3c/f/2016/198/0/5/metroid_prime_hunters_zero_suit_samus_gif_by_s3k94-daace9l.gif
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>>386232612
>http://orig00.deviantart.net/9f3c/f/2016/198/0/5/metroid_prime_hunters_zero_suit_samus_gif_by_s3k94-daace9l.gif
How did this screen look on hunters? The animation looks fine, I just want 2d for the sake of it
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I'll get the amiibo and pirate the game
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If Fusion Hard Mode is anything like that hard mode the Ganon amiibo unlocked in TP HD it's a worthless inclusion nobody should be upset about.
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>>386233085
I can totally see it being the base game's hard mode only with the damage dealt/taken increased and maybe those new relic powers disabled.
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>>386225978
The amiibo shit made me drop this game like a rock.
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>>386233282
I really doubt it'll be anything more than an alternate costume and 2x damage multiplyer tacked into the in-game hard mode.

Stuff like this being tied to an amiibo is stupid for a variety of reasons but its really being blown out of proportion, its not even the first amiibo to have this exact function. We've seen this crap before.
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>>386233539
In Super Mario Maker, basically each amiibo unlocked a NES sprite for that character. Amiibos are what, $20 per item? So if you subtract some unnecessary Amiibos (no sprite) and add some pricier ones (scalpers) we're talking $1000 or more, just to access all the content.
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>>386233539
>We've seen this crap before.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
People are getting complacent to literally being sold pieces of a pie they already bought.
Stop making excuses or downplaying it. They are entirely justified in their complaints, just like everyone else has been for a long time.
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>>386233748
Couldn't you get those anyway by doing the 100 Marios a bunch of times?
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>>386233748
No, you paid $60 to access all the content since every NES sprite was unlockable in game.
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>>386233748
In Super Mario Maker you can get all those sprites via unlocks.
The amiibos just let you bypass that part.
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Why is it called fusion mode anyway?
Do you get Metroid Fusion if you beat it? That would be cool.
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>>386233938
You wear the Fusion suit
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>>386233938
You just wear the Fusion suit.
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>>386233923
>>386233892
>>386233889
Good to know.
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>>386233748
>In Super Mario Maker, basically each amiibo unlocked a NES sprite
Well, it's called super Mario maker, not Super Nintnedno Maker. those are just skins, technically, too.
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>>386227218
fucking dumb suit redesign
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>>386233938
>>386233938
see>>386228415
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>>386234076
Fuck you, this design look awesome sauce.
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>>386233763
Most Amiibo content is garbage slapped together just so they have something for the amiibo to do. They wouldn't be in the game period if the amiibo weren't a thing.

Ive also got a lot of problems with the amiibo usage in most games. SSB4 and Mario Maker actually used them in a sensible way, unlocking bonuses that were either obtainable in the main game or handling it as a Toys to Life mode, and actually tied the unlock into the character you're scanning. Amiibos in this Metroid game, Zelda and Splatoon just unlock arbitrary shit like extra hearts. But do you really care about this kind of stuff?

The only worthwhile thing on this entire list of Metroid amiibo functionality is the bonus hard mode, and if that's just a 4x damage calculator replacing the 2x damage calculator from the standard hard mode you might as well do a low energy tank run. Its lazy.
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I bet Fusion modes "hardest mode" comes from them locking the shitty aeion abilities. Which is what I'd consider normal mode.
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>>386229451
>>Amiibo-exclusive missile and energy reserve tanks
see>>386227435
Reserve tank are casual helpers.
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>>386233938
It's like super hard mode but you'll find a computer with Adam's brain inside it that tells you where to go. After every boss fight Samus will also suffer a slight nervous breakdown.
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>>386234076
It's infinitely better than the Other M version, though. I'd gladly take it.
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>>386234557
I personally liked a lot how you could get other games' outfits by scanning the amiibos in BotW. It's just a shame how it all is going down with the scalping business, and the outfits don't look quite right on this Link, but it was a nice thing to have.
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>cosmetic dlc
>usually 2 or 3 bucks
>cosmetic dlc by Nintendo
>pls buy this specific $15 toy, no it doesn't matter if you already own an older version like from Smash
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>>386235389
>it doesn't matter if you already own an older version like from Smash
but it does matter. Those do stuff too.
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>>386235446
Remember when Link and Toon Link unlocked the same stuff? Every character Amiibo should count as that character. Stop making Link on a horse or Kirby on a star to force me to buy more Amiibo when I already own those characters.
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>>386235678
The amiibo conundrum
-either the new amiibo make something new and it feel like they are forcing you to buy it
-or it doesn't make something new and those who buy it feel like they are getting conned.
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>>386235853
Nintendo can't decide if Amiibo are like Skylanders or just collectibles.
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>>386229542
Semantic as fuck.
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