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>game / game series gets a remaster
>its worse version than the original
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>>386200582
Silent Hill HD Collection
/thread
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is there any remaster/port that was a straight-up improvement over the source?
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>>386200780
Almost any that had just a graphical update and no change to gameplay. Also Ocarina of Time 3D.
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>>386200780

Crash Nsane when we are talking baout Crash 1. Original game is not bad, just brutally outdated in any way I can think of gameplay wise. Especially the fucking save system which can suck my dick.
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>>386200582
That's going to be most games given game companies nowadays. Hell remasters in general are lazy since they only change superficial/small shit. Rather have actual remakes.
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>>386200780
The Taxman Sonic ports.
Only inherent problem might be the mobile controls of 1 and 2, but I got used to them eventually
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>remake is visually and mechanically better
>nostalgic fags cry MUH ATMOSPHERE
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>>386201086
You mean like this?
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>>386201920
I agree, but there are a few examples of bad remasters, like DOOM 3 BFG Edition, they messed up the lighting in that game that it basically made thee flashlight mechanic useless, which was one of the few redeeming qualities of the game.
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>>386201920
>textures are higher fidelity but not necessarily better
>some but not all models are improved
>lighting is technically superior but not used anywhere near as effectively as the old lighting
This is basically all remasters.
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>>386200780
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir.
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>>386200780
>remaster/remake
Sonic 1, 2, and CD remakes
Rez Infinite
NiGHTS into Dreams remaster
Wild Guns Reloaded
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap

>port
Tons. I'll just list a few of the first things that come to mind.
Animal Crossing (GameCube)
Super Monkey Ball
Rez HD
Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie (360)
Virtual-on: Oratorio Tangram (360)
Radiant Silvergun (360)
Rayman 2 (Dreamcast)
Muramasa Rebirth
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Vanquish (PC)
Dangun Feveron (PS4)
Bangai-O (Dreamcast)
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (still bad though)
Genma Onimusha

>remakes significantly different from original, but almost no one would argue the original is better
REmake
Ys: The Oath in Felghana
Silpheed (SEGA CD)
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>>386202936
fuck you that remake was good
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>>386200780
Unless you really fucking love never ending score attack arcade stuff, Donkey Kong '94.
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>>386200780
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 on PS4 after the patches is the superior version of the ports. 2.8 is also an improvement due to fixes they made to DDD (See https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181154-kingdom-hearts-hd-28-final-chapter-prologue/74930278 if you want more on that)
Ryu Ga Gotoku 1 & 2 HD are both improvements over the base games due to loading screens being like one or two seconds once you installed the data, shifting between screens takes half a second or not at all compared to about two to four seconds on PS2, and you have access to the item box at all saves instead of just hideouts.
Muramasa Rebirth controls far better, has a better translation, and has DLC stories that are basically complete expansions.
The Last of Us Remastered is superior due to having the DLC on the disk and having graphical options and choices between 60 FPS or 30 and better shadows and anti aliasing. Uncharted collection is the same deal.
Metroid Prime games on Wii are by and large the superior versions and I think some people would argue this for Pikmin as well.
Resident Evil 4 is also amazing with the Wiimote/Nunchuk and I believe it had all the alternative content the PS2 did.
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what are some hd remasters on the ps3 that are worse than the original? aside from silent hill.
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>>386200780
Basically all of the SEGA 3D Classics games on 3DS.
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>>386208481
Ratchet and Clank is arguable. There's a lot more bugs introduced but they're mainly just visual things (Ratchet's helmet being twice as big and laser visuals are completely different are two things that stand out) and then there's stuff like the robotic tour being completely broken and the voices don't work despite subtitles popping up.
Ratchet Deadlocked HD is so bad even getting it free with FFA doesn't brace you for how terrible it is. Webm related is in one of the first scenes of the game, the framerate in some areas drops to the low 10s, some of the arena matches are filled with so many enemies and effects that it drops the framerate to around the mid 10s, and every single cutscene has character animations stuttering every half a second.
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 are both good and bad, you have a bunch of problems like Xemnas' reaction command not working at all, Drive forms and summons have to load in so you have to potentially wait 5ish seconds before you get to resume playing, and so on. This is outweighed by the fact it was the first legal way to own the Final Mixes in English up until the PS4 collections that fix the problems.
If I remember right didn't the Tales of Symphonia HD collection and the DBZ Budokai HD collection also have some massive problems? I remember there being a lot of complaints.
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>>386208382
KH2 FM HD still has issues compared to the PS2 KH2FM, Specifically with Luxord and Marluxia boss fights. Other than that, you are right.
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>>386200780
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>>386209334
The Budokai 1 and 3 remasters were fine, but people were upset over the soundtracks being replaced thanks to that plagiarism thing.

People loved the soundtrack to 3 in particular, which had members of Toto and The Tower of Power playing on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0foCSy4Dfxw
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>>386209557
What did they do to Luxord? I know they had one attack of Marluxia's become something you need to evade instead of blocking twice now but that's such a minor thing compared to things like Xemnas' reaction command completely dropping so you need to spam items to keep up a limit break with Riku or the entire Drive/Summon delay.
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>>386200780
Homeworld the re-release not the remaster
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>Lol nigga just flip kick off the rockets, it's chill
>Lol nigga, we changed all the music to kill the atmosphere, hope you don't mind
>Lol nigga, Hal looks like a velociraptor now, we thought that was better
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M&L SS.
Looks horrible.
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>>386200780
Wild Guns Reloaded is the only one I can think of that not only improves upon some aspects of the original but also without any drawbacks as well.
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>>386211530
>we changed all the music to kill the atmosphere, hope you don't mind
The music had to be changed due to legal reasons because the MGS theme was accused of plagiarism around the time Twin Snakes was being made and like half the music in MGS1 were just different renditions of it. That's why you only hear a tiny portion of the melody in every game after 2.
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>>386215317
>without any drawbacks as well.
The only one I can possibly think of is that because the screen is wider, it can take longer to move the aiming reticle from one end of the screen to the other to deal with all the on-screen threats shooting at you, which may not be totally ideal compared with the original's more square aspect ratio.
This is so minor compared with the vastly improved everything, though, and it's superior for co-op.
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>>386215934
I feel the game does such a good job balancing out enemy placement with the change in aspect ratio that it never felt like I died because of it.
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>>386201920
B-B-BUT MY ZORA CONTROLS!
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>>386216302
And pretty much all bosses.
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>>386200582
Twilight Princess "HD"
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Zone of the enders 2 HD with the ps3 patch
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>>386200582
Homeworld. Entire fucking faction cut from campaign.
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>>386217934
Wind Waker "HD".
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Half Life Source

Not a remaster, but a port.

It's barely moddable, broken as fuck and full of glitches.
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>>386200780
Age of Empires 2 HD
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>>386200582
Hello weee sauce
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>>386218828
>no lan
Original with HD patch is still better
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>>386218784
If we're counting ports, the GBA has some doozies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hrf_jcYRUE&t=27s
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>>386200780
Halo 2 anniversary's campaign, and MCC's CEA port

>b-but MCC is buggy

Only for the networking, really, which the original Halo 2 and CE didn't have to begin with for single player.

>b-but muh atmsophere/shaders for CEA

It looks fine and you can play with the original graphics and music turned on. They fixed most of the shader bugs from the original CEA and PC ports as well as the framerate limiter on animations that the PC version had
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>>386219241
*for single player and CE's multiplayer
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>>386200780
Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver

Don't get me wrong, the originals are still good in their own way, but the remakes fixed so much broken shit it's not funny.
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>>386219241
More games need to do the graphical shift thing that the CEA did. It's amazing to press a button and instantly be taken back to the original graphics and then press it again and you see all the improvements over the years. It was fantastic.
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