Square Enix MMO division makes almost 1 billion dollars thanks

Looks like all those Shillblood threads paid off.

Good for Nier and Toro

>>386188039
Does this mean that the next FFXIV expansion will finally have the 30 million dollars budget

>>386188039
Is WoW finished?

>>386188595
WoW was finished since WoD.

>>386188465
No, all the money is going directly to Final Fantasy 7 remake

Good for them. I still only got my character to level 67 and didn't resub.

>>386188039
Bullshit. MMOs are dead.

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>>386188039
First Dragon Quest XI, now Stormblood. Square Enix is raking in all the fucking money.

>>386188039
Good for Yoshida and his team. Grats.

>>386188039
B-BUT STORMBLOOD FLOPPED
/v/ WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME

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>>386188039
>>386189146
>yfw FF will now become a MMO series while DQ will be the main single-player series

>>386188039
9.3billion yen is more like 100m dollars, not a billion

Looks like those paid level boost and story quest skip potions were more profitable than expected.

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>"Unfortunately, no specific unit sales figures for any of these games were shared"

And here I was wondering why you were posting news from a shit website. Can't you weeb retards just enjoy your game without making shit up about it? FFXIV is fine, success-wise. Not great, not bad, just fine. Accept it and stop this shit.

>>386188595
>>386188717
How many players does VIX have now, or do they not release numbers on that?
I hear rumors that WoW is getting close to only 1 million players, though it's hard to say if it's true since they stopped releasing numbers..

>>386188039

They fooled a lot of people by stating that this time it'll be a different approach and not a rehash. They lied, unsubbed asap.

If only FFXIV wasn't a pointless online singleplayer gear grind

>>386189983
Yup, I know at least 4 people who quit after the first two weeks. There's just nothing to do.

Yoshi tries to make it sound like that's what he wants.

>>386190006
If only video games in general weren't a waste of time.

>>386190006
I agree 100%, FFXIV is one of the worst MMO's I've played.

But goddamn, do I want that emote system in other games.

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>SquareEnix sees strong quarterly growth from an MMO
>but still won't localize its other MMO to get more money

>>386190106
Wastes of time that are meant to be fun.

FFXIV isn't.

>>386189684
I want DQX in the states, reeeee

>>386190075
If they quit to play other games, that's exactly what Yoshida wants. He already has your money. Now he's using it to make more content and promotions. Go play other games like FF12 zodiac age, Dragon Quest XI, or something else while they finish making patch 4.1

>>386188717
>since WoD
That's generous.

>>386190237
What MMO is that?

>>386190075

A damn shame too, Yoship doesn't even know what to do with this game. I wont be returning back to this MMO ever in its lifetime.

>>386190309

He fucked up, not only will I never come back I wont even bother checking out their next expansion. I know two more friends with the same thought.

>>386190237
Dragon Quest MMO would fail in America. It's too Japanese.

>>386190309
Except people won't come back. They're stupid, not retarded. They bought a full-priced expansion and got a week or two worth of content. That pisses off players. Plus, they're not gonna try other games, they're gonna go to the competition.

He can make it seem like his plan all he wants, but he's losing players. Stormblood, compared to most MMO expansions, has been a failure.

LMAO it brought in more money than Final Shit 15

>>386189684
I would so fucking OK with that as long as the DQ games came stateside.

>>386190459
>pay $30
>get 60+ hours of msq and PVE content

What's bad about thay

>>386190459
>and got a week or two worth of content
HW wasn't any different. People always compare early SB to late HW

>>386190459
That pisses off NEETS*

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>>386189146

Why does everyone has to be lewd/whorish? No one wants to be pure these days

>>386190695
If you think regular people play MMOs, you're so delusional, you probably shouldn't be talking about the genre in the first place.

>>386190780
Tons of normies play WoW and FFXIV now.

>>386189684
considering how terrible FFXV was and how good DQXI looks i think i'm ok with that

but they really need to put viera in FFXIV, cuz bunnygirls are best girls

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>>386190545
10 years in development and it still sucked

>>386190451

>DQX is too Japanese
>but an MMO with catgirls, lolis, fujos and power rangers is okay

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What's your damage?

/playtime

>>386190780
Tell that to 95% of the fucking statics I've been a part of. These fucking cunts can't get a schedule down if their lives depended on it.

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Just a reminder that SE makes almost half its revenue from gacha games.

>>386191109
I don't think it's accurate, i just have the game running a lot of times doing nothing

>>386191060
FFXIV is adopted for Western audiences with it's tab target combat and vulgar translatioms. DQX is slow as shit and makes puns in Japanese that would get lost in translation.

>>386191109
>Total Play Time: 24 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes
Smalltime

>>386191120

SE actually makes the biggest bulk of its money from outside investments like anime and music rather than video games. They are the new Konami.

>>386188039
this kills the xi cucks

>>386191109
+2k hours. Probably spent less than half of that playing the fucking game.

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>>386191109
6213 hours on Steam

>>386191198

Meanwhile, western MMO fans are crying out desperately for an MMO that isn't a clone of WoW. People are vacating WoW in the millions and most WoW clones are sitting at below 1 million subs, including FFXIV.

But SquareEnix won't bring it over because they think idiots like you are the primary market.

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>>386191212
bzzz, wrong

>>386191109
>166 days
not even a lot considering I've been playing since 2.0

>>386191109
[9:11 p.m.]Total Play Time: 130 days, 12 hours, 21 minutes

>>386191375
No, Western MMO fans want legacy servers and games exactly like WoW. Hence why FFXIV is the 2nd most subscribed MMO in North America.

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>>386191292
Modern MMOs in one sentence.

The fucking state of this genre.

>>386188465
All the money is going down the drain (FF XVI, 7 REMAKE, Nomura's next money laundering scehem)

>>386189974
They never show their real numbers, but there are ways to datamine your way looking through lodestone. There's this autistic jap that does it every couple of months, but keep on mind he only shows the total amount of active characters, not actual accounts, and numbers always showed numbers below 600k. Before I stopped playing, by february or march a year ago, iirc number of total active players hit less than 400k. But of course, let's believe everything videogame news site say since ARR release they have been saying xiv got over 5m active subscriptions.
I'm surprised they finally made a billion dollars just now, considering how expensive the costumes are.

There's also this website.
https://ffxivcensus.com/

>>386191534
Even 1000 hours is a lot for a video game.

>>386191587
>5million active subscriptions
I mean that could potentially be true, with all the RMT faggots constantly buying a new account when they inevitably get banned. i do wonder if they happen to count it at a certain time like after a release of a new expansion, or shit like "how many people paid for a sub in the time between this many months"

>>386190419
Dragon Quest X

>>386188039
It's 89 million but still not bad.

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>>386191109

>>386191498
No WoW legacy server has ever even maintained or surpased 5k active players. Only a bunch of nostalgia retards think they want that.

Also, FFXIV isn't the second biggest MMO currently, not by a long shot. It might be the second biggest sub mmo, but GW2 and BDO have more players.

>>386192025
Viele Grüße von Shiva!^^ o/ :D

>>386191878
Gold sellers mostly use trail accounts

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>>386191109
All I do is AFK

>>386191109
217 days, 19 hours, 28 minutes
Started playing roughly two years ago, i've worked part time for most of that. Wew

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>>386192075
>GW2 and BDO have more bots

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>>386192101

Nein, Odin

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>>386191587
This?
http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/50400397.html
>アクティブ
>active
>663,496
they are active characters too
dang that's sad

>>386192241
Image search isn't working.

>>386189785
Yeah, thought that was fishy. 1 billion dollar profit off of video game industry would be too unrealistic.

>>386192240
I dunno about BDO, but it's currently got twice the viewers on Twitch. GW2, I've never seen a bot on.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>386192380
It's also all of Squeenixs' profits for this term. Not just FFXIV. I'd be surprised if FFXIV made them even a tenth of that.

>>386192258
If you read the Japanese below it says it doesn't count people before level 50. So pre ARR players are not counted. There's more active people playing but they chart doesn't count it because bots and shit.

>>386192503
SE made more money from FFXIV than FF15

>>386192240
>play FFXIV's trial because hey, it can't be that bad
>see literal rows of identical bots with garbled names run directly from npc to npc

Kek

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>>386191498

A small group of them want that. But not everyone. There's groups who want a return to open world MMOs like RO, another group who want a return to games like Final Fantasy XI (which is what DQX is), another group that wants total raiding MMOs, another group that wants total PvE story driven MMOs, another group that wants RPing shit, etc. But no MMO out there caters to every one of these. WoW is keeping the raid focused players and FFXIV is appealing to the people who like story driven PvE. But there's tons of other groups who have just given up on MMOs.

At the very least, DQX coming out would appeal to the people who liked FFXI. But it would also appeal to DQ fans and people who want to play an MMO that isn't a WoW themepark. SquareEnix should bring it out just to take more of the marketshare that is being ignored. The people who aren't playing FFXIV because it doesn't appeal to them.

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>>386192362

Be warned, it's extremely lewd

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2094570

>>386192731
Welcome to every MMO ever. What MMO doesn't have bots?

>>386192718
citation needed

>tfw no Ivalice MMO

>>386188717
>WoW was finished since WoD
Try Cataclysm.

>>386192790
Why would people who liked FFXI like DQX? DQX is casual as hell.

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>>386192857

>>386192731
>Run
>Not a solid clump of Lalafells floating at the speed of light from NPC to NPC with retarded names
Pissed myself laughing when I first saw them.

>>386192790
what

DQX is shallow and easy... the complete opposite of FF11

>>386192834
I've been whispered by bots with gold selling shit in some mmos, but never have I seen rows of them walking around except in FFXIV

Just thought it was ironic the guy was calling out bots in other games

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>>386192857
Late September. FFXIV. Return to Ivalice. Discover Viera. Please look forward to it.

>>386191878
>>386191587

FFXIV has 5 million people who have made accounts. But they're not active. The number of 40k-600k active subs at a given time is way more realistic. With maybe 1 million in the first month of an expansion, quickly dropping off after everyone finishes the content (in 2-3 days).

But an MMO like this really only needs to kee 400k subs. Heck, they can survive on 100k subs. Yet another reason they should release Dragon Quest X. Even if it only got say 150k players, it would make millions for SquareEnix. No use leaving that money on the table.

>>386193161
I doubt DQX could pull in 25k subs.

>>386192884
>>386192965

Dragon Quest X was made by the FFXI team. As for it being easy, I wouldn't know. I can't fucking play it!

>>386193318
You can play it right now. It's fucking shallow as hell.

>>386193161
FFXIV is easily at like 350k-420k subs on average. If the game was dying they wouldn't add new servers. That's the opposite a company that loves money wants to do.

>>386193243

Just the DQ fans alone could get 100k subs. Not to mention the million or so people who buy every new MMO that comes out and plays it for a month. Sure, a lot of people would drop it later. But not all of them. It could easily keep 100k subs or more. Plus, these types of MMOs make their money from big surges of players during release and each expansion. As you see with FFXIV.

>>386193398

You can play the single player prologue. Of course that will seem shallow. Also, let's really not be calling DQX shallow when FFXIV is easy and shallow even in the end game.

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Which looks is better.

Try to not factor in the fancy DoF stuff in the second shot.

>>386193704
Literally the core mechanics of the game are more shallow than FF14. Take it from someone who's actually played it.

>>386193704
dude have you even looked at gameplay videos for DQX? it makes FF14 look like FF11

>>386191109
>Total Play Time: 230 days, 19 hours, 41 minutes
I don't even AFK a lot.

>>386193709
>fishnets on the left
>lice hair on the right
both such glaring flaws I can only give both 0/10

>>386193469

Did they add new servers for Stormblood? Last time I remember them adding new servers was before Heavensward. They moved the servers to the west coast recently, but didn't add any from what I can tell.

They even have a campaign right now rewarding people who join the less populated servers.

>>386193709
I dislike them both. Maybe because of the glasses.

>>386193860

>Take it from someone who's actually played it.
Excuse me if I don't take your word for it.

>>386193981

Watching videos isn't a solid judge of game difficulty at all. Especially when the people who usually make videos are people who have run the dungeon a dozen times and have max gear. And again, FFXIV is also super easy, so what's your point?

Complaining the game is easy has nothing to do with the original points being discussed. That DQX would appeal to other groups besides the people who like WoW and FFXIV.

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>>386194014
Omega server was added when SB came out.

The measure you're talking about was a kind of clever way for people to take a fucking hint about trying to join high pop servers like Balmung and Greg all the time as well as move to Omega. Though it did have some unintended but hilarious consequences like the bitchfest on Mateus with the two peeps who bought up a couple of housing wards on their own.

>>386190743
In my experiences the girls who absolutely must dress like prudes are the biggest sluts and the ones who show off their body are pure and trying to feel attractive because they think it'll make people like them more.

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So is this game worth getting into?

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>>386194470
>tfw I prefer prude dressing girls
>tfw they're getting rarer and rarer

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>>386191109
Send help.

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>>386193981

I've seen videos of DQX.

>>386194181
>That DQX would appeal to other groups besides the people who like WoW and FFXIV.

DQX only appeals to super casual DQ fans.

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>>386194829

jesus fucking christ

>>386194181
You can literally play DQX right now if you know what you're doing. It's easily the most casual MMO on the market.

>>386194691
There's a free trial up to level 35 for you to find out.

>>386192790
NO ONE WILL PLAY DQX

What don't you people understand?

>>386191878
if there's one thing i learned from my time on somethingawful forums, it's that people seem to have very deep pockets and a lot of free time when it comes to ban evading. it's like some people are just addicted to buying new accounts and getting banned over and over.

>>386194906
>>386194989

>its casual because I say so
Okay. I'd point out that casual games sell better and FFXIV is the epitome of casual itself. But you keep ignoring my points.

>>386195165

You can yell all you want, but that doesn't mean you're right.

>>386195361
Your autistic hatred for FF14 doesn't make DQX any less shit, dude. Stop shilling a game you haven't even played.

Literally all I want is XI-2. Just a comfy, slow practically turn based JRPG-esq MMO with a shit ton of jobs and a world that's intentionally obtuse and difficult to traverse because adversity creates stronger, tighter knit communities

But I have a feeling if that ever did happen, the effect that the internet has had on games and the way people play them would result in a playerbase that still isn't really the same.

Why does the best fem au ra face have the worst horns?

>>386195361
No one would play Phantasy Star Online 2, no one would play Dragon Quest X.

I'd say DQX would net about 17,000 subscribers outside of Japan at best.

What do you think, that the people that dropped off from Warcraft or Heavensward are just waiting for a game like DQX to bring them back in?
The aesthetic and tone are too different from what people have come to accept.
That and no one will understand the references.
Shit, people don't even get half of XIV's references and Final Fantasy is huge here.

>>386195483

I play FFXIV. I have a level 70 character with 7 classes leveled. This is how I know it's easy and shallow.

>Stop shilling a game you haven't even played.
I'm not shilling it. I'm pointing out how dumb it is that SquareEnix won't try to release it. And how even low subs can make a profit.

>>386195682
Can't wait to buy another necklace for 8 million gil for +2 stats

>>386195854
I'm not even talking about FF14 really. I don't get why you're sucking DQX's dick when it's more casual than FF14.

>I'm pointing out how dumb it is that SquareEnix won't try to release it
No one wants to play that shit outside of Japan

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>>386191109

>>386195750

>No one would play Phantasy Star Online 2
Hundreds of thousands of people went through all the trouble to install a translation patch and play it on a Japanese server. There's been a daily PSO2 thread on 4chan for years. Would PSO2 get millions of players? Probably not. Would it get enough players to be profitable? It already fucking has.

You're just hurting your point bringing this up.

>I'd say DQX would net about 17,000 subscribers outside of Japan at best.
Wow, such specific numbers. Surely you have some kind of source or reasoning behind it...

Oh wait.

>What do you think, that the people that dropped off from Warcraft or Heavensward are just waiting for a game like DQX to bring them back in?
I have no solid facts. But listening to friends, people on MMO forums and people here, there are a substantial amount of people who have said they are waiting for an MMO that isn't a themepark WoW clone.

>The aesthetic and tone are too different from what people have come to accept.
There isn't some set standard art style for MMOs. FFXIV and WoW already look different from each other. This is just a strange subjective view of what you think people want.

>That and no one will understand the references.
>Shit, people don't even get half of XIV's references and Final Fantasy is huge here.
But they still bought and played FFXIV. And some people went back and played past FF games after trying FFXIV. What's to say they won't do the same for Dragon Quest?

>>386190237
Yoshida won't let any SE MMOS other than his own succeed as long as he's heading Division V are SE.

His attempt to try and declare XI dead to get it's players to move to XIV was pretty shameless and still failed.

>>386195948

>I don't get why you're sucking DQX's dick
I'm not. This is the typical absurdum argument. "If you aren't absolutely hating something like I do, you must be an extremists who obsesses over it!"

>when it's more casual than FF14.
I don't understand why you keep bringing up "casual" as an argument. One, Casual games already sell better than hard games. Two, FFXIV is fucking casual itself. Three, you have no way to prove you've played DQX to form an opinion on it so how are we suppose to believe DQX is even casual based on your word?

>>386194823

this is just a whore in sheep's clothing

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>>386196658

Well Yoshida was one of the five directors for Dragon Quest X. He got the job fixing FFXIV because of his role in making DQX. So I don't see how he would want it to purposefully die.

But sadly there is evidence that Yoshida is part of the reason we aren't getting it.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/06/the-difference-between-designing-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-and-dragon-quest-x/

Basically Yoshida thinks that the west won't play any MMO unless its a WoW clone. And thinks they would have to change DQX on a gameplay level if they wanted to release it in the west. I would argue this is stupid since the whole strength of DQX would be its differences from FFXIV, but that's just how Yoshida thinks.

>>386196298
If you don't understand why Dragon Quest has never been big here, you don't understand why X would flop.

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>>386196848

So is Milfillia.

Which role actions for WHM?

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>>386188595
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

>DQ games consistently do well in the west
>"westerners won't like DQ because it's too Japanese" narrative still exists

>>386197003

But I already know why DQ isn't big here. It has to do with the lack of marketing. The two best selling JRPG series outside Japan are also the two series that got the most marketing. Pokemon and Final Fantasy get yearly releases and consistent marketing in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Dragon Quest as a series goes years between games getting released and only a handful have ever got marketing. Wow, I wonder why DQ sold less than Final Fantasy...

The few DQ games that got marketing sold well. Dragon Quest VIII and IX both sold 1.5 million outside Japan. The ones that didn't get much marketing didn't sell well. This isn't rocket science.

>>386188595

Quality-wise? Maybe, WoD was a shitshow.

Financially? Not by a fucking longshot. It's still the big dick MMO and will remain so for years to come most likely, since new AAA MMOs aren't being made anymore.

>>386190451
>too Japanese

Stormblood was literally Japan: the expansion.

>>386197368
So why don't the games after VIII and IX have the same level of marketing then?

>>386196983

I wouldn't want NA/EU fucks to touch my game either.

>>386188465

Yes. It will all go to advertising

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>it's another "dd's don't use diversion" episode

>>386197843
Sony marketed 8. Nintendo marketed 9. We didn't get X. All the other releases we've gotten were ports and remakes.

Are you aware that DQ1-8 are also on mobile in english, besides 7? I bet not.

>>386197843

SquareEnix has very dumb priorities. They also made Nintendo distribute and market Dragon Quest IX for them. They didn't lift a finger for that game despite how well it sold. They basically ignored Dragon Quest as much as they could in the DS/Wii generation.

But since 2015, every DQ game has been getting localized. And DQXI is already confirmed as well. Firing Wada seems to have fixed the problem. But since DQX came out in 2012, we're screwed on that one.

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>>386191109
all i do is roleplay

>>386198132
We've gotten VII and VIII on 3DS since then. And VII had a marketing campaign.
A very simple marketing campaign to sort of get people familiar with the series again, I remember it.

Both of those remakes haven't sold like hotcakes.
You can't just pin it all on advertising.
The real reason no one barely touches Dragon Quest here is because the battle systems are shallow and the stories aren't epics.

That's it. That's all there is to it.

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if lesbians can clear savage, why can't you /v/?

>>386198938

>And VII had a marketing campaign.
>A very simple marketing campaign to sort of get people familiar with the series again, I remember it.
A few standees in stores and a website is not a comparable marketing campaign to a FF game.

>The real reason no one barely touches Dragon Quest here is because the battle systems are shallow and the stories aren't epics.
Final Fantasy combat is even more shallow than DQ and their stories are Naruto mixed with Star Wars. They sell because they have multi million dollar advertising behind them and you know it.

>>386198938
>Both of those remakes haven't sold like hotcakes.
>A very simple marketing campaign

Gee, I wonder why sales would be lackluster.
Also Amazon was sold out for a few months after VII came out. And Neither's gone on sale since release. If they were selling that badly stores would be trying to get rid of the shit.

Which brings up another point of the low sales of the other DS games. SE and Nintendo didn't print enough.
>game comes out
>game is sold out everywhere and being scalped
>they don't print more
>claim bad sales

>>386199293
It's not just the advertising. Final Fantasy got the push because of IV, VI and VII. They really pushed a narrative in a time where the medium had nothing.

Even FF1 is leagues ahead of DQ2 in terms of gameplay.

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>>386199475
>game is sold out everywhere and being scalped
>they don't print more
>claim bad sales

I'm sure this is how any company would operate under the same circumstances.
I'm sure they just want to sabotage their own IP for whatever reason.

>>386191109
8 days. I miss my Sprout icon

What should I glamour the tamamo headband with? I'm thinking maid or shisui

>>386198997
You say that like O1S was difficult.

>have spent over $1500 on Dissidia at the arcades
>I am considered casual here

PRINTS MONEY

>>386199937
I just lost my sprout icon on my alt and now I am held accountable for my fuckups. Feels bad.

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>>386199812
Go to C:\Users\you\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn

You will see 2 or more folders like:
>FFXIV_CHR004000174AAB69FA
>FFXIV_CHR0040002E92D4B194

Each one is a character configuration. Figure out which one is the one you want to copy, delete the one you're replacing, and make a copy of the previous one, rename it and you're done.

The RDM playerbase is full of awful people.

>>386188039
>want to buy nier automata for friend
>they still haven't fixed the fucking basic-ass display bugs that were fixed in the first release of the fucking warez version

why do japs literally hate money? i would've bought the game for myself too but now it's fucking MONTHS later and NO PATCH that only takes hours to make??? wtf??

japs just despise all money

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>>386200286

Thanks bro

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>>386200070
M A I D

Fuck I want the maid uniform

>>386191120
>that projection
lol

>>386199746

>It's not just the advertising. Final Fantasy got the push because of IV, VI and VII.
Which were the first JRPGs to get massive ADVRTISING in the west., Final Fantasy VII is still one of top 10 biggest marketing budgets in the history of games to this day.

How are you not getting this?

>Even FF1 is leagues ahead of DQ2 in terms of gameplay.
FF1 also came out a mere two months before Dragon Quest 3 did in Japan. Final Fantasy got made after DQ1 and 2 did so successfully there. And Sakaguchi has specifically cited Dragon Quest as the inspiration for making Final Fantasy.

>>386199881

That's exactly what they did with DQIV and V on DS. It's not inconceivable they did the same for DQVII and VIII on 3DS. Dragon Quest V was going for as much as $100 on ebay at one time because it was sold out. It was only three fucking years later that SE made a second print run of the game and quietly put it on their website, without informing anybody. So only hardcore DQ fans knew about it. And scalpers still were selling it for inflated prices online for a couple years, taking advantage of this.

>>386188039
Well they're not making it back on FFXV, so I guess this is some sort of consolation.

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Oh good another SB thread
How do I make my white mage look sufficiently sexy?

>>386200259
How?

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>>386200412
Giant Lala art or Lala molesting a toy?

>>386200635
Tamamo headband, Shisui top and the level 50 healer culottes that show off panties. Extra lewd

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>>386200689

molesting of course

>>386200746
He said look sexy, not look trashy.

Why is it that Japan can't commit to make a fully fantasy type race without resorting to making them humanly as possible?

If I can't play as a full lizard man without it looking a human with just a tail and face shit then why bother calling it a fantasy game in the first place.

>>386200874
Because all western furfags need to be gassed, including you.

I did love XIV while I played it but for an MMO the lore (specifically Primals and Ascians) are what does it for me. Plus it's as close to a true XII sequel as we'll ever get. In a perfect world SE would release a Single-Player edition with AI partners and call it XVI. I'd definitely drop a ton of cash on that and the expansions, but I guess memories will have to suffice since I don't have time for guild/party shenanigans.

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>>386200874

I guess that slutty cat race is single handedly saving the game

>>386200635
Sky pirates legs of healing
hot pants

>>386194829

>last seen offline
>547 days ago

>>386200965
You didn't answer the question

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>>386201032
Cats got their fat asses nerfed from 1.0 to 2.0

>>386200965
>assuming everyone who plays as an animal race are automatically furries

That doesn't answers my question and I bet you think anyone wearing a eyepatch is a pirate.

>>386200546
I don't know what to tell you.

Dragon Quest is shit.
I garners recognition here because the Japanese like it.
But the Japanese have awful taste in everything.

Series like Breath of Fire, Suikoden, Tactics, SaGa, Mana, Alundra, Fire Emblem, Y's, the Chrono games, Phantasy Star.

All of these series are better than Dragon Quest.
I love Dragon Quest, but it can suck my dick outside of V and VIII.
Everyone wants to say, "Oh Dragon Quest is charming and it's endearing" and they're right, but it's also stubborn and shallow.

So I guess it's perfect for the Japanese. Listen to them cry when the devs even pondered the idea of chaning IX's battle system.

So don't kid yourself. Dragon Quest is enjoyably mediocre and you know it. I fucking know it and I've played half the series.

Don't you sit here and tell me that Dragon Quest VII is in any way better than Breath of Fire IV, Chrono Cross, Xenogears or FFVII.

>>386200874
Because 99% of the population wants to play as races that look cool and/or attractive, and that same 99% doesn't find beasts attractive or cool.

>>386199881
Do you know why Nintendo stepped in with DQ9, 6 and joker 2? Because they knew they would make money and thought square was stupid to sit on them. Do you know why 4 and 5 had bad sales? Because square didn't print enough

There was some major fuckery going on with square in the midlate 2000s regarding most of their localizations but it was really bad for DQ.
>Don't want to localize game for some reason
>Have no reason not to localize game
>make the print run still be a loss if sold out
>print sells out
>game is a loss
>claim two losses in a row to your bosses
>don't have to localize game anymore

But really there was some fucked up shit going on and it was all very obvious to anyone who wasn't a suit.

>>386200636
Each game costs 200 yen. On average, been playing about 10 games a week for over a year.

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>>386201840
>$2 a game

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>>386201056
>>386200746
I will look into those, thanks.
>>386200821
I don't like trashy, but I like cute-lewd.

Is this game still boring as shit with lame ass character designs? Was real disappointed when I tried this and found out I couldn't make a character that actually looked cool or badass, and realizing none of the gear or characters looked anything like actual final fantasy shit.

>>386201906
For 3 matches. Regardless, the cheapest games here are 100 yen. That's Japan for you.

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>>386193086
>Lyse's tits are literally three times bigger in the trailer

Why tho

>>386193709
Left, though swap out the fishnet stockings

Whats a fun server to be on?

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>>386202125

who cares flat is much better anyway

Cool can some of that money go into upgrading the game's infrastructure and underlying systems?

>>386202379
Nope, square is funneling all of it into KH3 and the abortion that is XV

>>386202379
Have some more mogstation items instead.

Please look forward toi it.

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>it's a "SAM joins your party finder" episode

if you're not going to do 4500 DPS, get the FUCK OUT

Remove SAM

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>>386202249
Tonberry

BUY MY GAME BABY YEAH

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>>386202249
come to exodus

>>386202510

Khloe is such a lewd little loli slut, damn

XIV is nothing but a cash cow that SE uses to finance its dumpster fire projects like KH3 and FF7RE, shit that spends 10+ years in development, probably eating 1 million dollars a week.

Zero chance any of that money will be reinvested to improve XIV. 100% chance they'll release more cash shop exclusive crap to keep the cash river flowing. No need to improve the game when its subscribers have proven they'll settle for less.

>>386202551
C-Cute

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>>386202625
OOPS FORGOT PIC

BUY MY GAME BABY YEAH

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>>386202249
Lamia

>>386191120
This is why gacha is bad civilization

>>386201498

>I think something is shit so that's the only reason it doesn't sell
I think Kingdom Hearts is the dumbest game I've ever played. But it still sells. Guess why? Marketing.

>Don't you sit here and tell me that Dragon Quest VII is in any way better than Breath of Fire IV, Chrono Cross, Xenogears or FFVII.
Suikoden is better than any of those. But quality =/= sales. Marketing and hype does.

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>>386202730

Is it okay if I don't goad as a sam? I'm already doing all the dps so I don't wanna do any utility stuff.

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>>386202125
>>386193086
Makes me sad.

>>386192790
>At the very least, DQX coming out would appeal to the people who liked FFXI
Do you DQ fans somehow forget that it isn't as renown or profitable in the west compared to Final Fantasy? IX barely sold at all, and even in Japan its homefront it barely has 1 million people who bought it.

>>386202510
I like this.

>>386202551
I miss JPs. They were so cute to have around in 1.0.

>>386202924

>IX barely sold at all, and even in Japan its homefront it barely has 1 million people who bought it.
What are you even talking about dude? Dragon Quest IX? Dragon Quest X? Final Fantasy XI? What you just said wouldn't apply to any of them.

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>>386188595
Not at all.

SuperData Research stats coming through, most profitable PC games list.

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>>386202249
Cactuar

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>>386198997
?

>>386203128
Good reason to not pick Cactuar

>>386202906

CGI cutscenes and in game models are done by completely different people. The game sells on the CGI cutscenes so they will make her look better in the cutscenes. So people get suckered into buying it.

I'm not defending it, just stating an obvious truth.

>>386203128

end your fucking existence

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>>386200874
You think anybody would actually play this? Look at every MMO out there with distinctly non-human looking races, they are always the least played.

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>>386203190
What are you implying?

>>386188595

>Is WoW finished?
Even after losing half its playerbase, it's still doing 10x better than FFXIV.

>>386202751
>has eyelids

This character doesn't even look Japanese, wtf is this shit?

>>386203276

it's amazing how much good stuff gets wasted in the time between concept and implementation

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IVALICE MMO YOU FUCKS NOT THIS SINGLE FUCKING RAID BULLSHIT.

>>386203276
Is there a female concept of that? I wish the game had monster women instead of the shit we got

>>386203084
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/27/heres-how-much-dragon-quest-ix-sold-overseas/
I was talking about DQ. 1 million copies with the advertising from Nintendo. DQX only sold 1.1million in Japan though it doesn't seem there's concurrent player numbers factoring in PC that I can see. DQVIII sold 4million on the PS2, but the DS and 3DS releases don't seem to be that high. The only source I can find for VII on 3DS is from VGChartz so it's not reputable at all, but it lists western sales as 200k.

DQ just doesn't have the pull Final Fantasy does in the slightest in the west.

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>>386203276
Would people prefer these Au Ra?

>>386203276
Is this suppose to be a example of a race nobody wants to play? They look superb compared to the ones we got in game.

>>386203571
Remove the little faggot and have stronk amazonian female au ra and stronk emo tall male au ra.

>>386203571

Beta bottom cucks aren't actual people, so no real people wouldn't prefer the trash you have posted

>>386203571
Snu Snu

>>386188039
does anybody know what you would call this poster style? baby driver does it, and the star wars posters, just to name a recent one and a popular one

>>386203571
amazonian and shota xaela and loli and beefcake raen are a common suggestion actually

>>386203481
Concept art doesn't get wasted. They recycle failed designs for later enemies or NPCs. If they don't make there then they get sold or added into the art book or lore book

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>tfw almost finished MSQ
Wow that took a while.

Is Endgame the real game? MSQ was alright though

WHEN CAN I BUY MORE THAN ONE JUMP POTION I DONT WANT TO LEVEL DPS FROM LEEVEL 1

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>>386203532
Yes, but they are still more human looking than male.

>>386202789
>Guess why? Marketing.
and the fact that it has Disney behind everything they do.
and the fact that it is literally playing out childhood movies.
and the fact that it's telling a constant story that people ten or fifteen years ago are still following religiously waiting for 3.

It's not just marketing, it's because the fanbase is massive due to both the Disney and Square Enix fanbases overlapping.

>>386203904
4.2 to 4.3

>>386203904

potd time

>>386203961
Well it is Japan so of course they will make the women human as possible.

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>>386203584
>Is this suppose to be a example of a race nobody wants to play?
It literally is, nobody wants that.

>>386203904
Sometime in 4.x

>>386204078
Thank god
Furries should not be pandered to

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Child PC when

>>386203880
you're done with the game now, please resub next expansion.

You don't want to to do weekly lockouts/item roll lockouts the game do you?

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>>386203504
You'll get your 3 Matsuno created, fully-endorsed raids and like it.

>>386204242
Never, you fucking pedo.

>>386204198
Non-human races shouldn't be "pandering" to anybody, they should be an interesting part of the world building and fantasy setting whatever they may look like.

What the fuck do I do with all these Materia IV and V?

>>386204424
Sell it.

>>386204458
On the market? They sell for next to nothing

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just successfully pubbed o3s as mch, ask me anything

>>386188039
It's fucking amazing how SE turned FF14 around.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/215753/understanding_the_successful_.php

>>386203961
Wow the female look way way better than the ingame ones wtf? The actual ones ingame look like generic lolis with shitty horns, fuck you square.

>>386204389

the xiv team is clever though, anything they're too lazy implement they can write off in the lore, beastmen aren't playable because they are seen as subhuman by most major factions, but the real reason is they can't be bothered to fit armor to anything with non human limbs

hell, the majority of players in this game play a race that has a tail, and they cannot even be bothered to avoid tail clipping on 99.9% of armor

>Tank is wearing swimsuit with fox ears
Is this a bad sign or a good one?

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>>386204590

>>386204242
kys pedophile

>>386204538
Got a parse? Kinda curious what you pulled.

>>386204810
>unhealthy obsession with graphic quality
It's funny because this is gonna get a bunch of replies from the people this is referring to.

>>386204684
>hell, the majority of players in this game play a race that has a tail, and they cannot even be bothered to avoid tail clipping on 99.9% of armor
>Au Ra starting gear and the Bardem's Mettle robes all clip with tails
Why though? They sets literally are designed to be worn by people with tails

What do I do with my old gear? I don't craft/gather.

Is Spell Speed still the best for healers?

>>386189146
Source my man?

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>>386188039
How come their japanese games are released as good complete games with few optional DLCs , sometimes just 1 (Nier Automaata) while they killed arguably the greatest western cult classic with the worst DLC and micro transaction shit there is (Deus Ex)

Was it all along a plan to kill the western rpg market and revive the glorious east? Is the dragon awakening from it's slumber?

>>386202682
Obviously. YoshiP had to beg on his knees for them to let him increase player inventories.

>>386204810
I kinda don't like this slide because it seems like it's phrasing it as general steps of failure but they just seem like they picked the three things that caused 1.0, specifically, to be a trainwreck. Though obsession with graphics has been an ongoing issue for the whole series.

>>386204684
I imagine that's honestly the real reason above anything else. Getting armor and clothing models to fit entirely different animations and skeletons would be a bitch and a half unless the game was built from the ground up to easily support it.

>>386204982
3807 with one death and ilvl 320
pretty content even though i got no loot

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>>386205189
>DEMD was bad meme
kys

What if for April Fools, Yoshi shuts off all the Aetheryte crystals

>>386191198
The puns aren't even in the japanese version you tard.

>>386205298
Are you fucking blind? I loved that game, but the dlc and micro transactions killed the momentum of the saga commercially.

>>386204810
"Step three" was 1.0's main issue. While "muh graphics" and dev team issues are big problems, they knew that the game was nearly unplayable, and yet released it anyway because "we will fix it later". First impression is everything for a MMO.

>>386205263
What was the party comp like? Only time I've maintained over 4k on a boss has been with a Dragoon around.

>>386205298

even if the content that exists is good, you can't deny that AUGMENT YOUR PREORDER!! and selling 1/3 of a game for full price was shady shit

only blizzard has a fanbase dumb enough to get away with that

What do I do with my old gear I got from quests? Anyone?

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Which is the most fun tank to play in your opinion?

I've got DRK to 70 but I haven't touched the other tanks yet so I can't compare if they're more entertaining or not

>>386201498
>I love Dragon Quest but it can suck my dick outside of V and VIII
You don't love Dragon Quest then you fag.

>>386204242
>There will never be an expansion and a series of quests that delve into the WoL's past, including literal duties where the WoL steps into their past self, running about their old hometown as a child due to Ascian fuckery, and having to save their home from some bullshit as a child.

>>386205531

level 70 artifact armor? toss it, you can buy it from the calamity salvager later

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>>386204684
You mean they're too lazy to do their jobs they're hired to do

>>386205574
DRK. PLD and WAR are extremely rote, very little active resource management that isn't bound by cooldowns.

>>386205615
No, I mean like literal starting gear, level 30 gear, shit like that

>>386205615
What kind of shit can you throw out and buy later on from NPCs? My inventory's a bit clogged with these house items for instance from MSQ

>>386205464
drg, mnk, rdm, whm, sch, drk, war
pretty off-meta in hindsight

>>386205702

any non-consumable you get from a quest or achievement you should be able to buy from the calamity salvager, double check before you do anything though

>>386205082
sell it for gil or turn n for company seals or save it for glamour

>>386205702
Anything that Calamity NPC sells. Just talk to one and see what you can buy.

>>386203343

No it isn't they are merging servers and auction houses. It's bleeding.

>>386203534

Dragon Quest IX sold 1.4 million outside Japan. Dragon Quest X sold 1 million on just the Wii. It was also ported to half a dozen other consoles, but sales records for that are spotty at best.

To compare, the PS2 version of Final Fantast XI sold less than a million copies on PS2. But SquareEnix came out and said Final Fantasy XI was their most profitable game up to the year 2012.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-25-ff11-is-the-most-profitable-final-fantasy-ever

This is not hard to figure out since even if they only had say 20% of the playerbase who kept their subscriptions, they would be making more money per month than a major game like FFVII or XV does in its lifetime. DQX and FFXIV both have even more subscriptions than FFXI do so one of them is definitely their most profitable game now.

If a game that sells less than a million copies can still produce the biggest profit for a company because of subs, then clearly adding another 100k subscribers would be a massive boost in profits. Which is the reason DQX should have been brought to the west. At least back in 2013 when the PC version came out.

>DQ just doesn't have the pull Final Fantasy does in the slightest in the west.
Yes, because it gets next to no marketing. Which has been said a dozen times in this thread already.

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>>386190918
>not literally any other beast race that is actually full beast
>wants yet another "human with <insert animal> ears/tail"

End yourself.

>>386205640

i wouldn't say it's their job, it's more like they had a team that existed before the game came into being, and only do as much as they need to do to keep the money flowing

the only way they'll fix tails is if they get tens of thousands of people to cancel their subscription solely on the basis of tail clipping, and also spam the forums saying that was the reason

>>386205935
>>386205815
Thanks, I'll take a look. My retainer is stuffed full of job quest gear and stuff like that

>>386203979

>and the fact that it has Disney behind everything they do.
Which is marketing.

>and the fact that it is literally playing out childhood movies.
They aren't anything like the movies they're based on.

>and the fact that it's telling a constant story that people ten or fifteen years ago are still following religiously waiting for 3.
Which is why its just like Naruto. Right down to endless filler arcs in between the main games.

>>386206085
For non-unique stuff, you can check XIVDB or the GamerEscape. Just search for the item's article and see if you can craft and/or buy it from NPCs, or find it as a dungeon/boss drop.

>>386205450
>but the dlc and micro transactions killed the momentum of the saga commercially.
Uh, no, DEMD sold like shit. That's what killed it.
>>386205503
Nigga, DEMD was fucking great. A fantastic game that retards who only followed quest markers thought was short. Goddamn, you guys played yourselves.

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>>386206018
>Current year
>Still can't play as a Gnath, Kobold, Sahagin or Ixal

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>>386206487
>we will never have an Adventuring Fellow feature that lets us take our Beastmen bros out to fight with us

>Every penny earned goes towards tabata trying to make ffxv less awful

I will never not be mad at how they manage their funding.

>>386206484
Man you are fucking retarded?
That's what we are saying:
It sold bad because of all the dlc drama, most people who played it either pirated it or waited until it was cheap as fuck.
And even if it was a great game underneath all that, the ending absolutely tells you that they hurried the release.

>>386204810
Do you think if 1.0 had not failed that it would have become successful?

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>>386206487
Well, if they ever do go that route they already have an explanation for why they would be playable with the non-hostile tribes.

>>386204810

>An unhealthy obsesion with graphic quality
But that's literally the cornerstone of Final Fantasy as a series. Why do they recognize this as a flaw on FFXIV but not their other games? Imagine how much better FFXV could have been if they didn't spend 90% of the time on flashy graphics.

>>386189684
thank fucking god

>>386189684
DQ has the most boring and generic games ever.

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>>386206487
>no chance of any beast races from Ivalice like alt. moogles or bangaa
>no chance of zany Ivalice classes like juggler

>>386206840
It didn't sell bad because of the DLC drama. DLC shit has been around and continues to be around for ages. There are far worse examples that sold great. AAA early access games that had less content than DEMD that sold gangbusters. You don't know why it sold like shit and your armchair theories are fucking retarded memes. Oh btw have you been in a FFXV thread lately? People don't exactly care all that much with that game's DLC route. Maybe you should find another dead horse to beat, because you could find a lot better amateur reasons to explain your shit hypothesis on why some games do well and others don't.

>>386206487
>Spend a huge amount of effort making a beast race that only a handful of autists will play, only to have them continue to bitch about clipping and lack of options anyway
>Spend significantly less effort making sexy humans with animal parts and make millions in fantasia sales
Gee, why haven't they done the first option, what a fucking mystery

>>386189684

Nah, they'll just make MMOs for both series every 10 years. Because they make far more money on MMOs than single player games.

Hopefully 5 years from now, Dragon Quest XII: The MMO will actually get localized.

>>386207029
Because they couldnt get it to work on ps3 and barely worked on anyones pc.

>>386207164

Animal Crossing and Pokemon exist.

>>386207282
No one's making a new MMO. Almost every example of a MMO Sequel is a failure. Everyone's just going to do what WoW has done and keep extending shit forever.

>>386207258

really it's not rocket science to figure out that a game with heavy anti corporate themes has a fanbase that avoids games with DLC like the plague. worse games sell better despite their DLC because they're marketed to retarded children with access to their parent's credit card, not cynical 20 and 30 somethings

>>386207389

Animal Crossing is like that out of design

Pokemon is pretty much the 'flagship' of the monster catching genre so of course its generic, its the standard

>>386207260
We all know why, that doesn't stop us from complaining about lack of race variety. Calm down.

>>386207659
>worse games sell better despite their DLC because they're marketed to retarded children with access to their parent's credit card, not cynical 20 and 30 somethings
Yea, that's why FFXV sold 6M units in a barely finished state after betraying a decade of trailers and promises while DEMD probably didn't sell 1M.

>>386207613

FFXI was their most profitable game of all time. And now FFXIV is making more money than FFXI did because it has more subs and more cash shop shit. They're definitely going to make a third FF MMO down the line.

Dragon Quest is up to the whims of Yuji Horii.

>>386207821
>conveniently ignore 1.0

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>>386207697

>Pokemon is pretty much the 'flagship' of the monster catching genre so of course its generic, its the standard
Kind of like Dragon Quest is the flagship standard for JRPGs?

>>386207613
i cant believe you said this unironically in a thread about ff14, the second mmo in the ff series, literally a sequel

>>386207914

excellent point.

though I still enjoy jrpgs of most flavors. DQ4 remains one of my favorites

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>>386207932
This.

>>386207867

I'm not ignoring 1.0. It was a disaster. But FFXI was so fucking profitable for them they still risked remaking the same game twice to try and get a functioning MMO going. And it worked. The next MMO will probably just be run by Yoshida from the start and avoid the 1.0 fiasco.

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>>386208018
>But FFXI was so fucking profitable for them they still risked remaking the same game twice to try and get a functioning MMO going. And it worked.
Oh, yea. I'm sure they wanna go through that again.

>>386201070
Been playing since 1.0 actually.

>>386188465
I'd like it to, but it's never going to happen. XIV funds many of the other failures and possible future failures at SE.

>>386203812
>only niggerscales get to have the tall female au ra
LITERALLY
FUCK
RIGHT
OFF
WITH
THAT
SHIT