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Why is nobody talking about this? Q is like the second best modern

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Why is nobody talking about this? Q is like the second best modern Persona game after 5, and this game is bound to be better than it was. Where's the hype?
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>>386066458
I'm hyped, but no point in being on 4chan while I'm mid-way through 5
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>>386066458
They didn't show us anything.

We knew they were doing it and they just confirmed it.
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>>386066458
/v/ is full of casuals that can't stand 1st person dungeon crawlers
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>>386067182
/v/ likes first person dungeon crawlers, the problem is that Persona fans don't like Persona for the gameplay they like it for the social elements, which PQ was pretty minimal on. Not a fault of the game, it just wasn't what a lot of the fans were into.
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If you are a fan of Persona you probably are bad at RPGs its the main reason they avoid PQ
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PQ Untold when?
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I bought dq8 over this. Did I fuck up. I didn't feel like drawing my maps again
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>>386068232
Dragon Quest 8 is a great game but I'd still pick up PQ when you get the time, it may not be as good as the usual EO but it's worth your time.
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>>386066458
Because we know there is going to be a Persona Q2 that involves the PT team.

I have now discussed all there is to discuss for the time being.
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there have been a few threads since it's announcement
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>>386066458
They haven't shown anything yet. There's nothing to talk about except for vain hopes.
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>>386068580
I haven't seen one today. The game was just announced, I expected there to be more interest.
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>>386066458
Why hype something that you know nothing about?
Atlus shill?
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Persona fags can't handle actual dungeon crawling and there's no shitty social sim to keep their autism in check.
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Waiting for pre-orders to go up, friend.
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Well how about we talk about what improvements over PQ1 can be made?
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Why the fuck are we pretending it isn't some garbage version of EO?

Why the fuck are we pretending the characters weren't just fanfiction incarnate? Akihiko literally mentioned nothing other than protein like a junkie, he was never this obsessed in the real game and just meme'd outside by fans.

EO 5 is coming out soon, why would i care about this terrible knock off?
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>>386069887
Because even if it is a shitty EO, the gameplay is still miles better than Persona
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>actual positivity over Persona Q

I thought I was the only one...
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>>386069887
I mean for the characters I just saw it like: "PQ is not a serious game" It literally fixed everything for me.
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I liked it but it felt like it was missing something that would make me excited about it. Or maybe I'm just getting tired of EO games.

>>386069834
Nerfing mudo/hama is one thing they should definitely do
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>>386069567
Will it have less of this little piece of shit?
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>>386070016
you were. then p5fags happened
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>>386069887
Yukiko improved.
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>>386069834
Skill trees and characters being basically different classes.
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NO NO NO NO
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Is this Persona Q 2?
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I hope the rumors are true & that P5 & P2 & getting together for this one.
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>>386073638
There are actual rumors about that?
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>>386073746
Yea, when Q2 got leaked, it was also said that 5 & 2 were the cast that was crossing over. Out of all the cast to crossover, that makes the most sense.
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>>386071364
It better have more of him you cat-shaming, monkey-loving fuckwad
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Its going to be P5 spin-off no crossover fun allowed and theres nothing you can do about it
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>>386067584

that's incredibly redundant.
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>>386073882
No it doesn't

you just want it to happen
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>>386073896
>PQ2 is gonna crank up Ryuji and Morgana's banter x 10
I don't know if i'm ready
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>>386073896
t. Morgana
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>3DS
*yawn*
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>>386067584
EO UNTOLD 3 WHEN ATLUS REEEEEEE
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Dude PROTEIN
I loved persona Q and currently playing P5
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>>386074662

>He doesn't know
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>>386071364
If you thought Teddie was annoying in PQ and then thought Morgana was annoying in P5... have I got news for you.
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>>386074327
How does it not make the most sense? P1 also makes a lot of sense too.
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>>386074494
I already want to die.
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>>386066458
Persona Q and P4D were announced at the same time, and it marked the beginning of a serious "persona fatigue" over the intense rehashing and spinoffs P3 and 4 had received for years and years. The surprise P5 announcement afterwards helped to downplay this a bit, but they never really went away.

Part of the reason P5 was received so well was that it felt very refreshing to have something that was noticeably different from P3 and 4 for the first time in a goddamn decade. People thought that between this and the team working on a new fantasy JRPG that persona might be either moving in a new direction or at the very least taking a break for a little bit.

However by announcing PQ2 and persona dancing 2 it's as though absolutely nothing has changed at all in all these years except the coat of paint the rehashing will take. People are rightfully disgusted by being force fed this shit over and over for the same reason people are rating each new star wars film worse than the last one
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>>386066458
I'm excited for it and was generally pleased with the announcement since I love EO, but there's only a teaser image and most discussion about it was done yesterday or so.
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>>386075738
>People thought that between this and the team working on a new fantasy JRPG that persona might be either moving in a new direction or at the very least taking a break for a little bit.
I don't think anybody thought this, everybody knew P5 would be milked to death just like P3 and P4.
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>>386075738

>disgusted
>over a few spinoffs

It's not like they're making money off of anything else

Who gives a shit if they make a couple spinoff games when they still make actual good games? Talking about this shit like it's Capcom trying to sell us cheap jank.
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PQ was neat fansaervice that got really tedious later on imo.
The gameplay was toned down EO where you could exploit the combat system incredibly easily, and the story had all party members boiled down to their single most defining characteristic.
That being said I still dig the art style and OST so I'll give Q2 a chance. Q was just a letdown imo
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>>386075738
Fatlus wants money, more news at 11
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>>386074327
if you've actually played both games, you can see the dozens of parallels p5 has to the p2 duology. Its almost a spiritual remake in terms of themes and character arcs (plotline not so much)
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The dungeon design and art direction in the first game were brilliant, but as an Etrian veteran I kind of hated the combat. Sub-Personas were a braindead substitute for actual skill trees and most enemies in the game were extremely weak to insta-kill magic. On top of that, Sub-Personas regained some SP between battles, usually more than enough for 1 or 2 free AOE instakill spells, so you could just waltz through a dungeon untouched with very little effort

I know the EO games (especially 2 and 3) have some exceptionally broken party setups, but they take an incredible amount of planning compared to this
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In addition to breaking the game, the idea of sub-personas is – if I may be a little bold here – really goddamn stupid. Based on concepts of Jungian psychology, the Persona is a spiritual manifestation of the part of the psyche that a person shows to the world (whereas the shadow is all the thoughts they wish to hide). It is the behavioral “mask” that protects their true self literally and figuratively. The protagonist of each persona game is able to shift personas because their outward personality is malleable (represented by dialogue choices in the game). This is reflected by the fact that social links build faster when the protagonist has a persona of the same arcana as their friend. Given this framework, it doesn’t make any sense for characters to be able to equip a second persona simultaneously – especially without it having any effects on their personalities. Persona Q takes this wonderfully complex psychological concept and reduces it to nothing more than Pokemon, and I kind of hate it for that.’
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>>386066458
So this is gonna be P5 plus what? P3 or P4? Because the cast is gonna be bloated as fuck if we add a third party
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>>386076657
It'll either be P5 alone or P5 with P2, I really doubt they'll use the cast of 3 and 4 again.
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The problem I had with PQ was that it tried to do a few things, but performed badly on all fronts. The story was about fanservice, but it bordered on gratuitous and over-saturated more often than not, and most characters got flanderized because of it. The gameplay was an abomination mix between EO and persona which didnt match well. Take the dungeon design and missions of EO and but leave the player character skills from persona and you have a game that's braindead easy at best, and overly tedious at worst. The most redeeming quality about the game was the soundtrack, but its about par for the course as far as persona standards.

Overall I feel like its a game that tried to appeal to too many people and ended up being disappointing to most. Though shout outs to the people who could still put up with the garbage and find enjoyment out of it: the game isnt bad by design, just not as good as it could be, and it takes a strong-willed individual to look past all the flaws.
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>>386076897
And it's not even the worst Etrian crossover!

EO should just stick to its own series
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>>386076657
PMO. Get ready for your favorites.
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>>386077020
Etrian Mystery Dungeon is cute and fun and gets too much hate.
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>>386069887
EOV came out a long time ago mate, this is an entirely new announcement. I always welcome more EO mapping. Unless EO3U is announced this is all I've got to look forward to right now for EO.
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>>386076847
Don't fucking play with me or i swear to god
>baofu/futaba interaction
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>>386067584
pq IS pq untold you dunce.
the whole point of untold is to give story fags a story no matter how trash
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>>386077176
"so this little shit is using MY persona?"
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>>386077673
Pretty stark contrast between their designs
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>>386076656
I prefer it because it makes it so that you can work around with different demons rather than your party being stuck with one each. Pokemon is also an incredibly poor comparison, there's plenty of others you could have used.
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>>386077673
I wonder how they'd handle two different versions of Prometheus, SURELY they'd bring it up, right?
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Lavenza meeting with Nameless, Belladonna and the Demon Artist?
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>Q2 comes out
>Only P3 and P5 teams are in
>YFW
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>>386066458
It's only because of the lack of info, it's like when P5 had it's first teaser, everyone talked about PQ and DAN because we actually saw those games instead of an image.
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>>386078670
>Q2 comes out
>Only P3, P5 and P2 teams are in
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>>386078670
I really don't want them to reuse P3 or P4 teams. I'd take P5 only over those.
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>>386066458
There's nothing to fucking talk about. They didn't even have a fucking trailer to show.
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>>386078670
Good. After Blazblue's MvC2, Yu needs a damn break.
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>>386066458
>Q is like the second best modern Persona game after 5
Something tells me you're fucking retarded enough to believe P1/P2 have good gameplay for use of the word modern.
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>>386078896
Speaking of trailers, when can we expect one? At TGS?
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>>386078896
We know enough about it to speculate about what we don't know, fag
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>>386078994
I thought TGS was last week?
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>>386066458
Because the first one was mediocre and worse than its 2 inspirations. I'd MUCH rather play EtrianOdyssey or mainline Personas than PersonaQ.
Also it's a 3DS game and I just want that specific system to fuck off even though I can play everything on it for free. I just want to move on from it.
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>>386077673
He'd never talk to his daughter like that
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>>386078670
>p3
It's shit
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>>386079185
How would he know she's his daughter if he traveled through time from before she was born and she isn't even his daughter
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>>386066458
>mfw never played any main persona games
>but loved PQ just because it fed my desire for mapmaking
I vaguely remember some people arguing about the story being bad but idk I barely knew what was going on as I went from map to map, I think it expected me to already know the characters.
I'm glad 3DS is getting one more EO at least, they could try fixing the battle system this time. Man I love my 3DS
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>>386079328
I father always knows
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>>386079121
TGS is in September.
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>>386077118
Now these are some literally whos.
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>>386079185
aw shit
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>>386079413
PQ was how I was introduced to the characters and I liked the story enough, but the more I play of P3 and P4 the more I understand why people hated the way they were handled, because jesus fuck did they butcher a few of them. Chie, Akihiko, and especially Yukiko are completely fucked. Yukiko basically isn't even the same character.
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>>386079693
Yeah, Chie got it pretty bad. I had her in my team because she's incredibly good as a unit, but I got sick of the meat shit.
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>>386077118
????????????
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>>386079486
What was the event that all those figures and shit were announced at last week then?
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>>386079693
I'm probably not going to bother with playing the other Persona games outside of Q and Q2, but that's what I heard. Yukiko I remember being a strange laugher but she was pretty bland. I liked the thug looking fella but never used him much, Junpei was the destroyer of FOEs instead of him.
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>>386079960
Wonderfestival. It's literally just figures. Not vidya related at all apart from having vidya figures.
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>>386080092
Oh, well that's gay.
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>>386079693
>Yukiko basically isn't even the same character.
That's an improvement.
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>>386080383
>turning a normal slightly awkward girl into a maniacal psychopath is an improvement
"no"
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>>386074327

>Implying Katsuya and Maya wouldn't be all over this

You have a guy going by the name JOKER pulling off impossible feats and rewriting minds. If that's not an excuse to get the EP and possibly St. Hermelin crews back together, I don't know what is.
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>>386079517
I'm still surprised they made an entire new cast for an online mobile game. This was around the time when P3 was released & still going.
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>People thinking it will have P1 or either P2
They won't have P1 or P2 for the same reasons those weren't in the original PQ
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>>386081030

Major anniversary year, anon.
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>>386067397
That less on the persona fans and more at the waifu fags
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>>386077020

EMD is actually fun if you play solo instead of trying to babysit the AI.
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>>386081030
If it isn't P1 or P2 then I don't know what the fuck they're going to do about the enemies because 3 and 4 have generic shadows but 5 has actual demons.
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>>386079847
There were alot of mobile stuff in japan when P3 released. That was one, with it's own cast. Everything else was a spin off.
There was that Browser MMO though.
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>>386081030
>He doesn't know they played hitlers theme live recently.
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>>386082791
>PQ2 will probably just reuse the PQ shadows

pls no. I don't want to go back to that after we got demons again.
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>>386083025
I-i'm sure it'll be easy to lower the poly count and edit the textures for all the demons, r-right?
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>>386083116
low poly hee ho
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>>386077171
go play wizardry 6 you fucking cuck
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>>386083178
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>>386081030
P2 is pretty likely for some of the reasons people mentioned. Not to mention they acknowledged 2 in the orchestra concert recently. P2 costumes were one of the only P5 dlcs I bought, we're easy to please ATLUS
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>>386083239
>implying
Mate, there's nothing to play that I haven't already in this type of game. Hence why I'm looking forward to a new one even with this look to it. Take your retarded meme insults and shove it up your urethra.
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>>386083025
Maybe they'll just make the enemies 2d demon images? Doesn't EO make their enemies 2d?
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>>386084191
>the same demon sprites as every smt game for the last 20 years
PLEASE no
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>>386084191

EO has had enemy models since the jump to 3DS
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>>386084191
EO hasn't used 2D enemies after the DS games
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>>386084191
Yes, we could have sprites. But I doubt it. PQ had low poly shadows, there's no reason why we can't get low poly demons.
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MAHAMAON
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>>386066458
I'm cautiously optimistic. If it's the P5, P4 and P3 cast all together, it'll be the biggest rehash of all time. If it's just the P5 cast, it actually wouldn't be that bad. Just like what many others have said, P5 and P2 casts would be by far the best scenario for this game. I also hope that it takes a bit more of a unique identity instead of being another EO clone. If done right, the game could be really great
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>>386078893
Dick status: Adamantium
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>>386084424
Are there as many shadow models in PQ as personas in 5?
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>>386075738
you don't really get fatigued over rhythm games
you go into them for the music, and they're really casual to play
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>>386084924
Of course the number of shadows/personas WILL go down for Q2.
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>>386084924
Not even close, they're just the shadow models from P3 and P4, and like 2/3 of those are just the same models with different textures.
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>>386084924
To answer the question, hell no. There's what, about 50 enemies in Q? Maybe less and even less if you don't count reskins.
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>>386084551
Fuck off with your shitty ass skills for the whole damn palace.
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>>386074662
EO2U bombed because Atlus's "appeal to casuals by ruining the series" plan with EOU failed, so it's very unlikely we'll get EO3U.

Which is really too bad because:
1. EO2U is actually good and worth playing even for someone who already played EO2.
2. EO3 remade would have probably been great.
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>>386086204
Actually EO2U bombed because there was an enormous uproar about the DLC "locking" parts of the map. Japs were fucking pissed.
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>>386078893
This is actually the best possible outcome
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>>386086676
That was fucking horrible.

EO2U's DLC is only acceptable because they made so much of it free for the US release.
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>>386087769
Don't play it then.

It's not taking resources away from anything except other Etrian games.
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>>386087865
>ask why people aren't talking/hyping about a game
>Answer
>"Well don't play it"

Fine then.
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>>386087997
>ask why people aren't talking/hyping about a game
Where was that asked?
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>>386087517
The backlash was so severe they actually decided not to release the final part of the Frost King and Thunder Queen trio plus some other stuff that they planned according to Siliconera (or maybe it was Gematsu? Idk, one of the news based ones).
I did like that I got everything save for the useless grinding DLCs and the Eldritch Hound for free though.
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>>386088101
In the OP you dense mother fucker, the post I replied to.

>Why is nobody talking about this? Q is like the second best modern Persona game after 5, and this game is bound to be better than it was. Where's the hype?
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>>386066458
Why is Mario's hat cosplaying?
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>>386087769
Did you not check what the gameplay would be like beforehand? It was very clear it would be an EO game.
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>>386088494
You've never given a game a chance just because of the setting?
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>>386088337
>Cant unsee
Fuck you
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>>386088814
Watching trailers of gameplay beforehand is a good way to avoid regretting wasting time on a genre of game you hate.
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>>386089165
I didn't quite like EO before playing PQ. Playing it just cemented it,

On the bright side, I got the tarot card that I was missing.
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>>386089321
Well I guess it's important to just know if you want the style of gameplay offered rather than the series name. EO is a PnP style dungeon crawler meant for people who enjoy slow paced gameplay that requires patience and typically has less of a focus put into polishing a story.
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