BY AZURA BY AZURA BY AZURA, IT'S THE comfy TES thread 4:

Cheydinhal Sanctuary
Shrouded Armour + Hood
Honour Thy Mother

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Colovia is best country.

Skingrad is fucking comfy but the road east of the imperial city is fucking great with all the hills

>>386046208

I want to marry a Land Dreugh!

>>386046568
I wish more cities had tight little streets like Skingrad does, it feels the most like a city out of all the cities in that game largely due to its design.

>>386046648
>not getting bullied by a knarl

>>386046685
yeah it definetly feels bigger, all towns in oblivion are pretty good unlike the joke we got delivered in skyrim

Anvil and the area around.
Amber armor with gold brand
The "whodunit" quest from DB.

Which do you prefer /v/, Mania or Dementia?

>>386046964
Damaniatia!

>>386046964
Dementia. I was edgy.

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>>386046964
I was too scared to go to dementia the first time I played this game I wasn't 5, I was just a pussy.

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>>386047648
>tfw Knights of the Nine Reveleation mod

PURGE ELVES

So why WAS Oblivion so much better than Skyrim, /v/?

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>he unironically likes Anvil

I love Oblivion so much but people who call things comfy in this context are literally autistic.

>>386047947
Why? The idea of a game (or a movie for that matter) being "cozy" is pretty well established. Something relatively easygoing/prime to wrap up warm and relax with.

>>386047842
Better quests. The little ones were usually more than just 'bring me five imp asses,' they had a little story and usually a nice twist.

Larger variety in enemies. You were mostly fighting bandits and drauger in Skyrim. You might see three wispmothers in a playthrough, all towards the end. Where are my damn goblins?

Oblivion was really bad outside of Shivering Isles.

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>get urge to reinstall oblivion for the 999th time
>see the GOTY edition for sale on steam
>decide to get it instead of downloading from shitty public torrents
>spend hours just looking for mods
>pic related happens
How the fuck do you overcome the modding autism?

>>386048491
Fire it up and listen to Patrick Stewart voice in the opening.

>>386047947
Oblivion is extremely comfy though. For most people it's very nostalic, the atmosphere is very warm out in the open and it's incredibly soothing to roam the grassy fields while listening to that amazing soundtrack.

>>386048491
What puts me off is the janky way of the modding until I realise that all you need is

>Oblivion Reloaded
>Oblivion Character Overhaul
>The 3 linked mods that padd the guild+main quests out a bit
>Immersive Weapons
>Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul or OOO
>Any other quest addons you fancy
>Immersive creature expansion

And you're set. All of which are super easy and quick to install.

>any city in oblivion
>best

3/10, pretty good bait

>>386048737
Do any of those change the leveling and stat system? Since I read up on the mechanics I've irreversibly turned into a min-maxer, as soon as I level up I abort everything and head into a city to rest and I feel like I gimp my character if I can't get a +5 endurance each level up because then I'll lose lots of HP in the long run. Ideally I'd like an XP system just to try it out with levels just giving you a set amount of attribute points to allocate.

>>386048868
What other cities in the series do you prefer to, for example, Skingrad?

>>386048914
The overhauls fix the difficulty a little bit but there are also mods specifically made to alter how levelling up works.

>>386048305
This. Oblivion is worst 3D TES game.

>Its character models were garbage even when the game was new.
>The story is fucking stupid and you're not even really the hero.
>They completely shat all over actual TES lore by making Cyrodil a boring, generic English countryside rather than a fucking jungle like it's supposed to be
>Oblivion gates. Come on.
>Introduction of menu fast travel with no lore friendly in game alternatives like silt strides or carriages

Apart from Shivering Isles and the awesome Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood questlines, everything else about Oblivion is utterly forgettable.

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Have you heard of the high elves?

Skyblivion looks to be coming along nicely, even Skywind is looking good. Looks like they will both be coming out when SKSE for SE come out. Which is too bad considering I'll be busy playing Episode 3 then.

>>386049034
I liked the Oblivion gates, my biggest gripe with them is that the landscape is so grimdark it gets boring pretty quick. If you don't like them you can plow through them in like 2 minutes, if you do then there's a decent chunk of loot in each one.

>>386049034
I think everyone likes it because when modded it can be a lovely little action RPG.

>polished turd

Modded Oblivion can be a good game, while modded Skyrim is still very shit.
As for Morrowind, I can't really have fun with it anymore because it just feels like I'm playing a terrible crpg

>>386049003
What other cities do I prefer to [generic fantasy city]? Virtually every single city in Morrowind.

>>386046208
>Skingrad is the best city

objectively wrong

Cheydinhal is superior, Skingrad/Anvil fags get fucked

>>386049034
Those sounds like complains you read on the internet and not ones you actually thought out yourself.

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top towns is a tie between anvil & chorrol, but everything in Oblivion is comfy as fuck

>>386049578
Nope, those are just a few of my gripes with Oblivion.

Though I'll be honest I had a bone to pick with Oblivion even when it launched, because Morrowind was a big thing for me and it fucked up so many things I liked about Morrowind.

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comfy little villages

>>386049339
Vivec City and Tel Fyr were pretty neato, but to imply Oblivion's cities are all shit is a bit of a meme.

Each of the cities in Oblivion are all different based on what part of the land they were from, with Anvil being massively different to Cheydinhal for example.

Bruma has a lot of Nordic influence due to its location, Skingrad which you call "generic fantasy" does have interesting bits to it such as the vampire infestation causing people to line their homes with garlic, and the Imeprial City has a great design to it.

The game is set in the home of the Imperials who are arguably the most vanilla race of the series so of course they'll be more "generic."

Are you really bashing on a game set there for not having cities as "weird" or "foreign" as a game set in edgy elf land?

Take off the goggles, Morrowind had a lot of cool shit in it but it isn't the be-all-end-all of TES games.

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>post tfw hackdirt for the first time

>>386046208

Chorrol
Glass Armor; it looks really out of place, but its got its own charm.
Whodunit

I'm playing the mod VIGILANT for Skyrim.

Why do people overhype this mod? im in chapter 4 and its boring as hell.

>inb4 muh exploration
>inb4 muh lore

Damn, even the alduin lvl 5 god dragon vanilla quest is better than this shit.

>>386047915
Coastal towns are comfy as fuck.

>>386049034
Yep. The shit persuasion system, lack of dialog, potato-people, shit level scaling horseshit, fake daedric equipment, boring oblivion gates, boring main plot.

Shivering Isles owned so hard it basically made up for the rest of the game though.

The white-gold tower being this tiny piece of shit is the ultimate insult.

If you were going to do a TES game in cyrodiil I say a cooler approach would be to make the White Gold Tower literally the setting of the game. In the original lore the tower is so big it's basically a metropolis in itself.

Make the entire game set in the tower.

>>386050485
>anvil
>comfy

>Mountain lions getting into people's homes
>Haunted house with a torture dungeon
>Infested with thieves
>Haunted ghost ships in the dock
>Assassins in the Lighthouse
>Get massacred if you go to church

>>386046964
what exactly is the difference between the two anyway?

I want to marry Dar-Ma!

>>386047947
>beautiful atmosphere, even with dated graphix
>the orchestral OST
>grass swaying in the wind
>The Gold Coast

Sorry brah, it's comfy as fuck.

>>386050210
Cyrodil wasn't supposed to be vanilla generic fantasy. It was supposed to be a jungle region.

>>386050485
>>386050610
While I pretty much always went for Skingrad because it had the fattest house I think I definitely liked Bravil the most due to the layout of the city. It's very easy to parkour in the city since so many of the rooftops are easily accessible; Cheydinhal would probably be a second in this aspect, though their rooftops are trickier to get onto with low acrobatics. I think you can even get on top of the chapel with minimal wallclimbing.

It took me a lot of tried to get into Oblivion. With the right mind-set and just the right amount of mod I ended up playing it for 50-60ish hours and I appreciate it a lot more now.

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>>386050314
When you escape from underground and its pitch black outside and raining hard and the whole village comes at you from everwhere.

>>386050801
This. Cyrodil is supposed to be Rome in the middle of a jungle. Instead we got generic English countryside.

>>386050901
Modding is always the worst part, and usually when i just give up because it takes too long.

>>386048186
>>386048728
>>386050762
>Spackers.

>>386050970
>>386050801
>nordtards will defend talos for this

>>386050610
All problems that can be solved with a mace.

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what are some good character creation mods for oblivion?

I wanna make a new Thalmor qt

>>386050801
Yes and I'm as assmad about the retconning as anyone but to imply the cities themselves are all shit is a bit far. For what they are they made each city quite interesting.

>>386051116
But I don't actually find Anvil nearly as nice as say Chorrol or Skingrad.

>>386051137
cco2 is the best general overhaul for race faces. 100x better than vanilla

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>>386051348
*sorry OCO V2

>>386051701
thnx I'll check it out.

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>>386046830

>play skyrim at release
>oblivion was my favorite game ever so this is gonna be tight
>get to whiterun
>so fucking small
>must just be a smaller comfy city, there are tons more!
>play game
>mfw I realize Whiterun is pretty much the biggest city in the game

fuckin skyrim, the only other city that may have been bigger was markarth but that was just due to design layout in a few spots.

>>386046208
>Skingrad
>Beings close to as comfy as Bruma, Anvil, or Cheydinhal

Yeah nah you're wrong Son although it has the best vanilla player home.

>Favorite place
Mehrunes Razor dungeon or just the Shivering Isles generally. Otherwise I love exploring around the Jerall Mountains

>Favorite Gear
Blades Armor, Goldbrand or the Thornblade as a sword.

>Favorite quest
Paranoia and Whodunit are tied for me.

>>386049034
>Its character models were garbage even when the game was new.
that's true for every TES game
>you're not even really the hero.
But that's the best thing
>They completely shat all over actual TES lore by making Cyrodil a boring, generic English countryside rather than a fucking jungle like it's supposed to be
Fair enough. Though wasn't it made habitable by Talos altering the history?
>Oblivion gates. Come on
Agree. It was shit.
>Introduction of menu fast travel with no lore friendly in game alternatives like silt strides or carriages
Well that's true Oblivion did start many shitty trends in gaming.

Cheydinhal is the best city but i'd argue that the best place is at the top of the mpuntain where there's the invisible troll.

Glass stuff is pretty badass a bit too green to my taste though.

Assassin's quests are clearly the bests ones but i love the thief quest involving elders scrolls

>>386048737
>>Oblivion Reloaded
>>Oblivion Character Overhaul

you just need these to be honest, and perhaps an ENB if you're into it

So what class/character type do you dudes usually play?

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At the risk of being burned at the stake for heresy, I never got around to playing Oblivion, but I'm playing the Beyond Skyrim mod now. Impressed at how Bruma actually feels like a city, unlike all of the towns in Skyrim. Is it a direct recreation or did they upsize it from Oblivion's rendition?

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>>386053779

sweaty orkress warrior

>>386051701
>OCO 2
>not OCO 1
pleb

>>386052702
>Well that's true Oblivion did start many shitty trends in gaming.

Not that one though. It was in Daggerfall and Arena, Morrowind is the only TES game to NOT have it.

Fast travel has always been around, it's not a modern thing.

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>Oblivion removed Unarmored skill
>Skyrim removed Hand to Hand

Why does Bethesda hate monks?

>Favorite Place
Cheydinal

>Favorite Gear
Golden Saint Armor

>Favorite Quest
Paranoia

I've been replaying this game recently and it's so much fun. Really flawed in a lot of areas, but the world is so pleasant.

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I wanted to like Oblivion but its leveling system makes me so angry I feel like vomiting.
And mods didn't help cause instead the game crashed every 10-15 minutes.

Biggest hope for TES VI?

>Set in Elsweyr
>Kick ass Arabian Nights inspired desert setting

>>386053926
Nope, its exactly the same size as in oblivion.

>>386054564
>>Favorite Quest
>Paranoia

Really? The quest where if you don't know any better you literally spend more than an hour watching the radiant AI go through it's routine of doing not much of anything? It's literally Waste the Player's Time: The Quest.

>>386054830
Oblivion is just prone to crashing in general unless you get the 4~ patches/hotfixes.

If you want the vanilla experience and the leveling it the only thing stopping you, just get RealisticXP.

>>386049034
Skyrim has literally no redeeming factors whatsoever besides Dragonborn and mods.

>Main quest fucking sucks
>Companions - You HAVE to become a werewolf
>College of Winterhold - Like two spells actually needed and they're given to you
>Thieves Guild - Everybody is a fucking moron, explained too many times how this shit is retarded
>Dark Brotherhood was okay and best, killing Emperor has zero impact on anything
>Dawnguard - Join vampire killing group, end up babysitting a Mary Sue vampire

>>386055050

Yeah that shit's funny to me. The AI is so bad and it's hilarious to watch this guy go about his day.

>>386053779
Almost always a Dunmer Spellsword of some kind. I get the best of both magic and combat usually, and while DB and TG get the most love I don't generally like stealth in TES games.

My second character is almost always a stealthy dickass thief, usually an Argonian.

>>386052702
IIRC Morrowind is the only TES with a restrictive fast travel system. I never understood the complaint myself and just fast traveled everywhere I've been to.

>>386054959
> oblivions tony snowlodge city that would embarass a Morrowind village has more substance than skyrim's capital

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>>386055078
> Thieves Guild
> only required thieving is IP theft

>>386055078
Pls give me your Thieves Guild pasta. I want to cap it.

>>386055078
>>College of Winterhold - Like two spells actually needed and they're given to you
Do you know how many spells are needed in Oblivion for the Mage's Guild? Four. And they are given to you as scrolls so you don't even need the skill to cast them. Morrowind would be no different again except in that game quests are gated behind the arbitrary "have x skills at y and w skills and z" crap. The quests themselves don't actually require much prowess in magic.

>>Thieves Guild - Everybody is a fucking moron, explained too many times how this shit is retarded
It's always amusing to me that people routinely cite the Thieves Guild as the worst in Skyrim because "you don't do any thieving" when all that exposes is they only ever got halfway through it. The entire second half of the Thieves Guild is nothing but thievery. They also don't seem to be aware of how much dungeon diving the Thieves Guild in Oblivion had.

>>386055078
The best part about the Dark Brotherhood is you can prep a number of targets in advance for Ebony Blade betrayals.

>>386055204
By your answer I can see A. A kindred soul and B. A morrowind first game dude
You are my nigger on so many levels

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>>386055496
>Tony Snowlodge

Now I'm imagining some chad ski instructor explaining pizza vs French fries.

>Hey Anon, Tony Snowlodge here. You ready to have a totally rad time today? Alright bra, let's hit the slopes!

>>386054249
>oblivion's hth damage is capped at 12 at 100 str/unarmed
You get pretty fucking good at learning attack animations and dodging while playing unarmed so I guess it's good practice

>>386046208
>favourite place
Anvil
>favourite gear
Chillrend, cause its pretty.
>favourite quest
That one dark brotherhood quest where you are locked inside a mansion with a bunch of people.

>>386055605
>>386055618
The Thieves Guild is shit because NONE OF WHATS FUCKING GOING ON MAKES ANY SENSE.

YOURE TELLING ME MERCER WAITED TWENTY FUCKING YEARS TO ENACT HIS PLAN OF TAKING THE FALMER JEWELS AFTER GETTING RID OF CARLIA? REALLY? NOBODY EVER FUCKING NOTICED DURING CHECK UPS OR ADDING SHIT TO THE VAULT THAT STUFF WAS GOING MISSING?

WHY THE FUCK DOES THE DRAGONBORN AGREE TO NOCTURNAL'S DEAL? SHE LITERALLY SAYS IT'S A SHIT DEAL, CARLIA SAYS ITS A SHIT DEAL. SO WHY THE FUCK CANT THE DRAGONBORN, ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL BEINGS IN ALL OF NIRN, TELL THESE TWO CUNTS TO FUCK OFF? YOURE TELLING ME I NEED SOME LAME POWERS TO BEAT A GUY WITH INVISIBILITY? OH LARDY DA.

>>386054830
Oblivion's leveling system is hands down the worst leveling system in an RPG. It is literally unmatched. Even a perfectly leveled 5/5/1 character will take forever to kill Goblin Warlords and Gloom Wraiths because the health scaling is so retardedly out of control. The best weapon in the game with 125% durability and fully charged still takes around 21 hits to kill a Goblin Warlord and they replace almost every Goblin at 35+ so get ready to whack and hack every goblin over 20 times under the perfect conditions.

The only way to legitimately play the game at max level is to create two spells. Your run through the dungeon spell that increases athletics, speed, and makes you invisible and your kill thing spell that takes all your magicka to cast, but deals a shitload of damage per second on touch. Then you just run through dungeons do as little as possible because everything is a health sponge so you only kill when necessary.

OR YOU AVOID ALL THAT AND JUST MOD IT.

Base Oblivion is perhaps one of the most unfun games I've ever played. What's funny is that a few tweaks to the level scaling and experience is all it takes to make it a blast to play.

>>386056192
>>386055618
OH AND WHY DID CARLIA WASTE HER SUPER SPECIAL ARROW ON THE DRAGONBORN AND NOT JUST FUCKING SHOOT MERCER? HER EXPLANATION MAKES NO SENSE. SHE SET IT UP TO LOOK LIKE SHE KILLED YOU BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO TALK? WHAT? ARE YOU SHITTING ME.

what mods should i get for this jam everybody?

required:
- some means of making the combat very volatile; i dont want to be hitting mooks more than once or twice and i shouldnt be able to survive more than 5 regular swings
- something that adds a lot of variety in enemies, items, armour, weapons and spells, and ideally distributes them to NPCs
- immersive things, first person camera, food requirements, realistic weight etc.

and then open to anything big and good that is the usual thing to fix/improve the game

>>386056235
either that or weakness to magicka + drain health 100pts/2secs to two/three shot everything.

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>>386056235
and thats why you get OOO + OblivionXP

OOO gets rid of the stupid level scaling and OblivionXP deals with how the player levels up.

>>386056402
skyrim is fucking stupid.

>>386056580
Maskars oblivion overhaul to fix combat and add npcs/creatures/loot/enemies to the world. Be sure to check the .inis to fix the damage values.

Realistic gravity, enhanced first person camera, mayve a survival mod?, Camping, weather all natural to make nights and caves darker, immersive interiors to be able to see out of windows.

All i can think of right now but ill get back if i have more.

>>386056192
>>386056402

Oh my god! All caps! You must be serious, you someone else's opinion parroting moron.

>>386055712
Dunmer are just my favorite lorewise and I love hybrid classes. I was really excited at the prospect of "silent casting" in Skyrim because then I could make a stealth mage but without sneak bonuses it felt extremely underwhelming.

I'm guessing you main Spellswords as well my negro? Also you Telvanni, Redoran, or (((Hlaluu)))?

>>386046208
>>favourite place
Bruma
>>favourite gear
Iron+leather combined
>>favourite quest
Liberating Kvatch.

>>386057597
Nice rebuttal, faggot. I've been posting this shit likely before you even got into high school.

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>>386057625
I love dunmer as well but holy shit it's so hard to play one in Oblivion. They just look like such dweeby little shits compared to both Morrowind and Skyrim.

>>386049034
>The story is fucking stupid and you're not even really the hero.
You didn't get to defeat Dagon and that was a weak ending, but you absolutely were the hero.
>known to be the guy that saved what remained of Kvatch by rushing into a blazing portal alone
>known to be the guy who delibarately baited the Daedra to besiege Bruma with a massive attack, only to then charge into that even bigger portal to steal their artifacts in the hearths of their strongholds, again ALONE, and get a kick-ass statue made in your honor.
>known to have retrieved the most important artefact in the land TWICE
>known to have made the defeat of Dagon even remotely possible, from the beginning to the end

You didn't get to suckerpunch Dagon, that doesn't mean you weren't the hero.

>>386056981
How do you make Oblivion look like this holy shit.

>>386057812

Did you really expect someone to seriously read and respond to an all caps post of mostly gibberish? Fuck off, kid.

>>386058267
Take a look at bevilex modlist on the nexus

>>386058364
>Gibberish
Ah so you're illiterate. No surprises there, Skyrim was made for people like you with its constant stream of worthless two sentence lines and idiotic plot points that rarely if ever make coherent sense. Take your own advice, retard.

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>mfw it will never support multicore

Tfw spend 2 hours dieing to rats because you didnt realise difficulty bar was on max

>>386055078
You actually only ever need to use that ward spell. You can get into the College by using a shout as well, and I believe you could get in with a speech check as well

>>386058627

Holy shit. The fucking irony.

Modded Imperial city with better cities mod is the best and comfiest city in Oblivion. Try to prove me wrong

>>386058519
Thanks. I'll give it a shot.

>>386058832
Spellbreaker for the ward

>>386059004
> comfy

opinion discarded

>>386058861
Do you actually have a decent rebuttal to anything being said or do you just make stupid quips? Whatever, I'm done wasting my time with you, you probably think Dawnguard is a good DLC too.

>>386058668
>TFW no Oblivion remaster.

It's a bit of a shame. It's one of the best adventuring sims with vampires ever.
>Hunting vampires and werewolves with holy weapons and companions because they're 3strong5me
>One of my friends becomes a vampire. I didn't realise.
>He infects me while Sparring.
I RP with it and start living as a lonely vampire.
I liked that OBlivion was pretty warcraft 3 ish. It was pretty and bright but it could get dark and gory as fuck.

oblivion was a shit and you only like it because you grew up with it
j-just like m-morrowind ;-;

>>386059004
>imperial city
>implying you visit anything but the waterwront and market district more than once unless you need to go there for a quest
Wasted hub desu, other cities are more fun to roam.

>>386046208
>wizards tower
>silver mace
>can't decide

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>>386059158
>Not caring about the comfy value of towns

Opinion discarded

>>386059158
no
>>386059390
Have you used better cities?

>>386046208
>Favorite place
The areas around Skingrad and Kvatch

>Favorite Gear
Cruasader Gear, or Madness Armor

>Favorite quest
Either Whodunit, or the one with Glarthir

>>386047746
I played that mod on my most recent playthough it was pretty neat, didn't really like the end though, honestly the whole Gareth thing should of just been resolved before going back. Rest of it was okay. Should really finish that run, but some mods fucked up and I had to verify files but it installed a bunch of shit so I don't want to go in and find out I need to reinstall all my shit.

>>386059390
I was always on Talos and Arena.
By the way, did they rename the Talos Plaza during Skyrim?

>>386059502
Nope

>>386059385

Morrowind is a good but flawed game. Oblivion is a good but flawed game. Skyrim is a good but flawed game.

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>>386059390
>Not being a thief and robbing the rich folk blind

The imperial city was an absolute gold mine, especially with mods like OOO that add more hand placed items to homes, buildings etc that suit the owners/occupants

>>386059658
Use it. Make sure you install it for Imperial city as well. You'll never want to leave Imperial city after it.

>>386059603
Because that big ol plot point called the white gold concordat, and the same reason the nords are shitting them selves and half of them have REEEE'd out of the empire shortsightedly.

>>386059902
I'm currently downloading OOO, Immersive Weapons, thinking of bothering with Oblivion Reloaded and OCO (never cared too much for graphics and my rig isn't that great to begin with so it might lead to performance dips) courtesy of this anon >>386048737
Any idea what those 3 quest mods he talked about are?

>>386060209
No clue desu. I never mod the main quest

>>386060209

I think he's talking about those mods that add delays between one quest being completed and the next one in the chain being available. I don't know why you would want that, just don't start the next quest if you don't want to do it yet.

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i've recently gotten into TES lore and there's one thing that still confuses me, why the hell are the Daedra worshiped? The orcs and argonians know they worship objectively evil beings, right? why is everyone else okay with this?

>>386061159
>The orcs and argonians know they worship objectively evil beings, right?

Malacath is not "objectively evil". Most of the daedra are not "objectively evil", they just aren't particularly nice. A lot of people aren't particularly nice either.

Also, a lot of the worshipers say at least the daedra actually do things. The divines rarely do much of anything.

Let's compare guilds!
Oblivion vs Skyrim!

THIEVE'S GUILD:
>Oblivion TG can be missed entirely, retards might even go the whole game thinking it is actually made up like the loading screen says
>Skyrim TG is literally interlocked with the main quest

>Oblivion TG quests revolve ENTIRELY around thievery and stealing shit
>Skyrim TG is basically a watered down Dark Brotherhood

>Oblivion TG endgame is about pulling off the ultimate heist, a prestige challenge for master thieves
>Skyrim TG endgame is again, a faggy knockoff Dark Brotherhood cultish faggotry

>Oblivion TG boss is a mystical figure to the general population but is actually a living, working member of the world with a history who appears as normal in game after a certain point
>Skyrim TG main boss is never found outside of the guild despite owning a manor in the city where the guild is based, and is just another faggot in light armour

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>>386061159
The daedra aren't objectively Evil. They're just different, and people on nirn *perceive* them as being evil.

Also, not all are considered to be evil. Meridia & Azura are generally considered to be "good". Others are considered to be neutral.

>>386061714
but the argonians straight up worship Sithis, so much so that they honor him by willingly sending their young to be members of the dark brotherhood

>>386061945
Sithis isn't a Daedra

>>386061715
>I didn't ever play Oblivion, I'm just parroting what other people say
>I didn't finish the Thieves Guild in Skyrim and it somehow didn't register that the Thieves Guild is not what it once was despite the fact that I was fucking bashed over the head with it multiple times

Thanks for your worthless contribution, I'm sure the meme spouting faggots will love it. I bet you think Oblivion was the first TES game to have fast travel too.

>>386062095
oh
well he's still evil, so why do the argonians worship him and why is everyone else seemingly okay with that?

>>386061715
"FIGHTER'S GUILD" (aka Companions)

>FG Guild hall and influence in every city, memorable banner and halls feel like actual halls
>1 CM building in the first city you find, all quests and content for the guild originate from this location (SLIGHT pass as it could be for "lore" reasons

>FG characters are interesting with different personalities, all play their own part in the story/are memorable as the leaders
>Companions are all forgettable as shit other than the guy who you first see become a wolf and the huntress waifu

>FG quests are just that; being hired muscle to sort out problems for people, then develops into a war with another faction whilst keeping characters of the guild personally involved
>Companions quests are ENTIRELY just radiant quests you can get from inkeeps/jarls or else a faggy "muh werewolves" storyline

>>386062125
What? I played both, Skyrim's thieve's guild was absolutely fucking awful. All the "lore" reasons aside, the quests made fuck all sense and it basically turned into what could be bluffed as a dark brotherhood quest toward the end. There was arguably one good thievery mission and it was the one in the dwemer ruin, while I enjoyed almost all of Oblivion's TG quests.

>>386062165
NAYRT but you should read the UESP page for sithis, its not evil (people call it "he" but its more of a non entity)

>>386062223
DARK BROTHERHOOD

Honestly I can't say much, both DB questlines were pretty good. Oblivion's certainly takes the cake but Skyrim's DB had some of the best quests Skyrim could offer.

>>386060801
>>386060801
Holy shit. How can I achieve this screenshot?

>>386062165
Different cultures have different views on death. Some might view Sithis as something that wants everything to die for the sake of dying, others might see it as a natural part of the life cycle.

Either way, it is very much real (and they know this) and it is a powerful deity. You want worship gods without them being merciful.

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>>386047648

>>386062347
>>Oblivion TG can be missed entirely, retards might even go the whole game thinking it is actually made up like the loading screen says
Only if you are a fucking idiot and never click the "Grey Fox" topic that pops up in conversation with every beggar, every guard and half the population of the Imperial City.
>>Skyrim TG is literally interlocked with the main quest
So what? They aren't a secret or anything.
>>Oblivion TG quests revolve ENTIRELY around thievery and stealing shit
Sure, if you count dungeon diving as "thievery" then it ENTIRELY revolves around "thievery and stealing shit".
>>Skyrim TG is basically a watered down Dark Brotherhood
I'm sorry, I must have missed all those assassination missions in Skyrim's Thieves Guild.
>>Oblivion TG endgame is about pulling off the ultimate heist, a prestige challenge for master thieves
You steal something from blind people. Big fucking deal.
>>Skyrim TG endgame is again, a faggy knockoff Dark Brotherhood cultish faggotry
The actual endgame of Skyrim's TG is rebuilding the TG to it's former glory by performing a heist in every city and reestablishing a network. You never did that, did you?
>>Oblivion TG boss is a mystical figure to the general population but is actually a living, working member of the world with a history who appears as normal in game after a certain point
He sits in Anvil castle all fucking day long and then after you finish the quest he moves from the bench to the throne. He's not exactly a living, working member of the world. At least, definitely not anymore than Mercer.
>>Skyrim TG main boss is never found outside of the guild despite owning a manor in the city where the guild is based, and is just another faggot in light armour
It's kind of a key plot point that the current boss is not fit to lead, you fucking moron.

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I want to visit one of the Khajiit moon colonies. Must be dead comfy looking back down at the world from there.

(not bullshiting, Khajiit climbing on top of themselves to create tower big enough to reach the moons is established lore, mentioned in the emperors guide and even part of a questline in eso)

>>386050580
>lack of dialog
elder scrolls games have never had good dialogue for the player.

>>386059701
Skyrim is a completely mediocre, uninspired, unambitious waste of time. While it has less negatives than any other Elder Scrolls, It has none of the positives and none of it's own. If Oblivion is a jewel encrusted turd, Skyrim is just a plain old rock. You'll pick up a turd if it's got some diamonds in it, probably clean it up (mod it) and now you've got diamonds. With Skyrim no matter what you do it's still just a rock.

>>386046208

god damn oblivion was fucking garbage

Any mod that overhauls combat so it doesn't become spam your attack/spell? I found SkyRe and Perkus Maximus for Skyrim but nothing like that for Oblivion? Trying to get into it so hard, already pushed myself through the main quest a few years ago but couldn't get further.

>>386047648
I took a break between ps2 and xbox 360 and honestly Oblivion felt like a horror game to me. The music that played when an enemy saw you would stress me out, it doesn't help that the recommended brightness makes everything dark as fuck.

>>386063673
Deadly combat? I think it adds shield bashing, disarming, timed blocks, exectes etc on top of raising damage values.

>>386063673

Once upon a time people used to recommend Unnecessary Violence, I don't know if anything has changed. I never really like that mod that much, it ironically makes the combat more like Skyrim and yet people love it as a mod for Oblivion and hate it as vanilla Skyrim.

>>386062484
I'd say Skyrim's DB just ended kinda weak. The whole "kill the emperor" thing was being hyped. The quest where you kill the fake emperor was actually pretty cool. But then, during the actual emperor assassination, you just climb onto some ship, kill the old fuck, and literally no one cares

Oblivion's final DB quest was pretty meh but it still felt more dramatic

>>386061945
Less so that they worship Sithis but rather that they acknowledge it as the original creator, for without NO to counteract the YES there cannot be MAYBE

>better cities is 1,4GB
Holy shit, how much does it add and how much is just uncompressed textures?

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>>386062165
Sithis is a binary state like Anuiel, not an actual being.
It's some quantum physics or Kabbalah thing.

The Dark Brotherhood is a joke when it comes to mysticism in TES. They don't know a damn thing. I'm sure the Shadowscales are only involved to keep an eye on them.

>>386064113

It adds way too fucking much. Everything is ridiculously cluttered and cramped and it kills performance.

>>386064265
It recommended like 5 performance mods so I can imagine. Guess I'll skip it for now.

>>386063982
All of the Skyrim guilds are weak.

>>386063683
I went into Oblivon not knowing what it was about and nearly shat myself the first time I was wondering around and the sky turned red and the Oblivion gate music started playing

>>386046208

>Laptop hard drive shit itself
>Can't boot into Windows
>Fuckers at ACER put a password on the UEFI so I can't even get into BIOS or anything to run repairs.
>Try to install Ubuntu
>Can't write to disc
>Stuck browsing on a trial version of Ubuntu from USB with no hard drive
>Get the itch to play Oblivion
>No way to do it
>Then this thread appears.


STOP POKING AT MY WEAKNESSES
REEEEEEE

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I'm playing Oblivion, can someone post some fun lore?

Lorefags, it's your time to shine. Tell us stories.

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>>386063980
Skyrim has shittier animation locks and combat limitations.

>>386065103
The White-Gold tower is basically an anchor holding the world together, should it be destroyed the world would be torn open and ripped apart. So don't destroy the tower >:(

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>>386062484
>Skyrim's DB
>pretty good

The side-quests which had you killing citizens were good, but they was a limited amount of them for obvious reasons. The main quest sucked ass, the only good quest was the fake emperor assassination. All the guild members were either mundane or downright irritating.

>>386046208
>Rosethorn Hall
>Ring of the Gray
>Whodunit
Pretty original I know

>>386065103

I've got some lore for you.

The idea that Cyrodiil was supposed to be an enormous jungle is not true. The immediate area around the Imperial City is meant to be jungle cleared into rice patties fields, that's missing and has been replaced with grassland, but all the rest of the "generic" forests, swamps, mountains, etc. that are there in the game are actually consistent with the lore. Maybe it was changed because Bethesda are lazy, maybe they couldn't get a good looking jungle, maybe they thought it just didn't fit well. Who knows?

>>386065103
Meridia's Deadric Plane, the Colored Rooms is probably the nicest place to go when you die.

>>386049034
>graphics
>main story who cares
>main story who cares
>main story who cares
>muh realism
That said, it's true that the vanilla models are shit (but who plays Skyrim with the vanilla graphics?) and not having some sort of in game fast travel is shit as well. To say that is sufficient to call it worse than Skyrim however is laughable. All Oblivion needs to be better than Skyrim is quests. That thing you spend most of the game doing instead of the main story. Skyrim had shit quests. Let alone Oblivion having attributes, more spells, better factions, disposition not being out of 4 and actually changing quests (don't give a fuck about the minigame) doesn't help your case much either.

>>386065103
>>386065680
Didn't the jungle/forest in Cyrodiil get destroyed after Tiber Septim conquered Tamriel and burned it all down?

>>386049034
>Introduction of menu fast travel with no lore friendly in game alternatives like silt strides or carriages
arena and daggerfall had menu fast travel retard.

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>>386065103
And to add to what >>386065301 wrote.

Each tower has a stone and there are around eight towers. The white gold tower has the Amulet of kings as its stone for example.
The Aldmeri dominion is looking to destroy these towers by deactivating each stones which would ultimately unmake reality.

They want to do this because they think that Lorkhan who tricked the other gods into creating mundus separated them from their ancestors, the aedra.

I fucking love elder scrolls lore

>>386065912
>CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled.

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>>386065301
Not quite true.

The white-gold tower is already deactivated. It's no longer working. But yes, if ALL the towers on tamriel are deactivated, and if men forget about Talos (he in himself became a kind of tower), then existence may end.

Thats what the Thalmor want to achieve so they can return to the original existence them and men came from.

>>386065912

Or he used the Thu'um. Or he used CHIM. Whatever, it's not there anymore. Point is, all of Cyrodiil was not jungle. Oblivion was not breaking the lore just so they could have a generic European landscape, it was always meant to be there.

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>>386065680
>>386065912
When Tiber Septim achieved chim and became the god Talos (And possible mantled Lorkhan) he changed Cyrodiil from a jungled climate into the more grassy woodland areas as seen in the game Oblivion. This was done for the sake of agriculture AFAIK.

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>Arcane University
>Dwarven Armor
>Thieves Guild Finale

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>>386066296
>it was always meant to be there.

How do you feel about Skyrim's 200 year time skip? Do you want to see another for the next game?

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>>386046208
*blocks your path*

>>386065103
It's possible that Mankar Camoran was a Dragonborn. During the game Oblivion he is wearing the Amulet of Kings outside of his own realm. He also briefly touches on CHIM in the Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes.

It's possible that he might have achieved chim and changed his own properties to be able to wear the amulet of kings.

>>386062585
Lots of vaseline.

>>386047947

Dumb hipster poster

>>386066459

Couldn't be bothered looking it up but there are books that talk about Cyrodiil's landscape. They describe the jungle around the Imperial City but they also describe the forests, swamps, mountains, etc., etc. that surround this jungle. If I remember correctly it's a little vague about the area towards Anvil, the grassland there may not have been mentioned but it's presence is no contradiction.

Man, walking into a tavern at night after a day of exploring, sitting down and eating some food with a needs mod, and then just chilling and talking to the locals inside was one of the most comfortable experiences in gaming.

I think I'll reinstall this game again.
Unfortunately I've got an i7 and a 1080 and I hear it does not play nice with either.

>>386052702
Not wanting to be the hero is a reddit meme.

>>386066296
>>386065912
>>386065680
>>386065103
Cyrodiil was a jungle. All of it. At the time of Oblivion coming out, it was meant to be, but they decided not to because they were lazy. Between Oblivion and Skyrim coming out, Michael Kirkbride wrote "The Many Headed Talos" while not being affiliated with Bethesda, describing Talos using both Thu'um AND CHIM to take down the forest for his people to farm. The Many Headed Talos is Heimskr's speech in Skyrim now, effectively giving a reason for Oblivion to look how it does.

3>5>2>4>1

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>>386065103
Pelinal whitestrake who's armor you get in KOTN DLC of Oblivion is a cyborg from the future who arrived in Tamriel just to fuck the elves up during the slave rebellion against ayleids

>>386066963
Literally a meme opinion.

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>>386066483
I reckon They're gonna skip long enough into the future so that both the empire + dominion have collapsed during another great war, so for TES VI it's back to each nation being independent, looking after themselves.

That doesn't have to be a long skip - the rumblings of another war were already gathering during skyrim. Hell, 30 - 50 years would be more than enough.

Why can't I love games like this anymore? They were so perfect, but I just can't engross myself in a world like I used to. Mass Effect, Baldurs Gate, Kotor, Elder Scrolls, I just can't do it anymore.

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>>386066483
I thought it was cool, though I don't think I'd want them to do it every time a new game comes out. The story and setting should decide how much time, if any, has passed.

I'd like to see a game set in the Summerset Isles, both to provide a jarring rotation from Skyrim's manly viking adventures and to measure the affects of one man's heroism. I think it would be interesting to portray Alinor during the aftermath of losing the second Great War, after the Dragonborn and 'his army' (leaving it at that since you chose sides differently) drove the Elves back from the countries of man. I think you could do a very cool take on a region beset by treaties and sanctions strangling it after its defeat and invasion, sort of like Germany after World War I, where the elite survive using their potent magical skills to survive, but the humble commoners are starving and living in extreme poverty. Your allegiance would fall more toward the wizards of the Isles, who are perhaps more able to assist with the main threat of the game's story, or more towards your common man, who won't be able to offer the same help, but instead you would be their advocate for change.

The entire game would be an examination of what happens on the flipside of things, where in Skyrim, this outcome was all most players wanted, but in just a few short years from another person's perspective, your most prominent political leaders have fallen and your entire town is suffering for a war you never even saw. Could be cool.

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>>386067086
Nah m8,

The Elder Scrolls VI: Dominion

Set either in Hammerfel & High Rock or Elsweyr and Valenwood.
>>386067153
Try TES3MP, it's great fun.

>>386067086
Is that map canon?

>>386067028
>cyborg

What

>>386067045
>meme
That's a fun word to use to discredit something. Keep at the shitposting, anon. You're doing great.

I remember making a novice level spell at the Imperial Mage's school that charmed 100% for two seconds, when the game first came out.
It blew my mind that I could use it on shit like bandits and then talk to them about rumors and shit before they immediately draw their weapons again.

I also remember using the paint brush staircase trip and discovering a hidden door inside the model of the Imperial tower completely by accident, that instantly skips you to the final stage of the main quest where Martin sacrifices himself.
Good times.

>>386067638
>no explanation for ordering
>follows all the most popular conventions
>irrationally favors an insanely old game over a nearly objectively superior newer one for nerd cred
MEME
OPINION

>>386067481
You bout to get Kirkbride'd.

>>386067272
Is TES3MP actually functional? Sound kind of crazy and weird.

>>386066915
>It is the largest region of the continent, and most is endless jungle.

That's the line that everyone jumps on. Do you know what follows it?

>Its center, the grassland of the Nibenay Valley, is enclosed by an equatorial rain forest and broken up by rivers. As one travels south along these rivers, the more subtropical it becomes, until finally the land gives way to the swamps of Argonia and the placid waters of the Topal Bay. The elevation rises gradually to the west and sharply to the north. Between its western coast and its central valley there are all manner of deciduous forest and mangroves, becoming sparser towards the ocean. The western coast is a wet-dry area, and from Rihad border to Anvil to the northernmost Valenwood villages forest fires are common in summer.

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>>386067481
Hes not even kidding

He wasn't a "metal & wires" kind of robot, but a creation of sorts.

A mentally ill time travelling robot who created & destroyed kingdoms, then went even more nuts and almost completely annihilated the entire race of Wild Elves in ancient Cyrodiil. He slaughtered so many that the last sighting of a wild elf was 1000 years ago, they either completely died or their bloodline merged with other elves like the altmer.

>>386067787
That's literally saying anywhere near the ocean is a LITTLE different. Most of it is still jungle.

>>386067481
As for the time travelling:
The Song of Pelinal, Volume 3, States:
"Pelinal called out Haromir of Copper and Tea into a duel at the Tor, and ate his neck-veins while screaming praise to Reman, a name that no one knew yet.", suggesting that Pelinal has either prophetic visions/knowledge or time travelling capabilities

As for the cyborgness:
He was called Pelinal the "Whitestrake" because of his left hand was made of a killing light suggesting robotic nature.
His heart was also a ruby which was visible in in chest at some point. During his death, IIRC.

>>386067971

For fuck's sake, you were wrong. Everyone was wrong. Get over it.

>>386055078
Skyrim is more fun to pay than Oblivion, and the world is a million times better to explore.
The quests ARE absolute shit though

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>>386067764
These, and
>Spell that takes away all your level in a certain skill, so novice trainers can train you all the way to master for a handful of drakes :^)
>3 second weakness to everything, then a powerful destro spell, nukes almost every enemy in the game
>Above spell, then a short 100% drain Fatigue, enemies go falling head-over-dick because it knocks them out
>Someone talkin shit in town, break into his house while he's away and use a low dmg, HUGE AREA destruction spell and wreck his entire house, then steal his cabbages
>Charm 100%, then talk shit til they hate you, spell wears off putting their opinion of you IN THE NEGATIVES, which will make most citizens actually try to murder you, whereupon the Guardmind shoots them full of arrows
This game is a masterpiece of fucking around all day.

OFFICIAL RACE RANKING
bretons > plebeians > furries

>>386046208
>favourite place
The Gold Road (between Chorrol and Bruma)
>favourite gear
Tan robes and a silver dagger.
>favourite quest
Sheogorath (his eponymous daedric quest)

>>386046964
Mania.

>>386068205
You should checkout Skyblivion then. They're remaking the entire Oblivion game in Skyrims engine with modified skyrim assets

>>386067772
>stop liking what I don't like

I'm guessing you think Skyrim is le worst game ever too, right?

>>386068462
>still doesn't even attempt to justify his ridiculous stance
Your entire existence is a joke.

>>386068395
Close but no cigar, Imperial>other garbage>Furries>Nords

>>386068557
>ridiculous stance

Hate to break it to you brah, but that's a pretty general consensus.

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>>386067028
I want a ES Adventure game ala Redguard but instead you play as Pelinal, and you basically just go around like Shadow of Mordor, but fucking up Ayleids instead of orcs.

Get the dudes who did the gore kills on Doom on it too.

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>>386068395
HIGH TIER
Dunmer, Breton, Redguard

MID TIER:
Imperials, Argonians, Khajit, Bosmer

LOW TIER:
Orsimer, Nord, Altmer

>>386068441

Is it completed?

>>386068957
Almost good anon. Khajiit and Argonians belong in SHIT TIER (under LOW TIER) though. Otherwise acceptable ranking.

>>386068772
Literally making it a meme opinion. Thanks for finally admitting it.

>>386068995
Unfortunately not but they got about two live streams each week when they show of work they've done and it's looking amazing so far.

They've said that theyre hoping for a late 2018 release.

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>finally get over 200 shitty packages running
>everything is at 60 fps
>haven't crashed once in 4 hours

The time is now

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>>386068820
why do you hate elves?

>>386068205
The combat is equally bad and the lack of stats and spell making makes it inferior.

>>386069202
why did you fuck up the graphics?

>>386069226
The real question is, why wouldn't you hate Elves?

>>386069226
Why don't you
?

>>386069202
That looks really washed out.

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>>386069414
>Why don't you
for sex

>>386066963
4 > 3 > 2 > powergap > 5 > 1

>>386069149
>being so contrarian that you think agreeing with the consensus is a meme
Proof that 4chan causes autism.

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>>386050314
Just got there with Hackdirt The Deep Ones installed.
>>386069341
Got a pretty bad ENB, gotta tweak it a bit.

>>386069149
You really like that term. It's kind of cute, actually.

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>>386069379
>>386069414
Man exists to serve Mer.

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>>386069226
Because they want to end reality as we know it by ripping apart mundus just because they think it's their ancestral right

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>>386069484
>Touching elves in anyway that isn't Strangulation
>stabbing
>bludgeoning
>biting into their neck whilst singing praise for future leaders as of yet known

What sort of sick, degenerate fuck are you?

>>386069484
but they aren't real dumbdumb, how can you sex them.

>>386069503
try cinematic enb friendo

>>386069535
Mer exist to get impaled on big man cock. And beast cock too. Argonian snakedick, barbed khajiit boners, and redguard turds in that order.

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>>386069709
>how can you sex them.
mods

>>386069796
But you still aren't sexing them.

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>>386069664
>pelinal is kill
>shitty man god worship is illegal
>high elves destroying all the towers
>when the end comes only elves will be left

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>>386069535
Say that to my face fucker and not online.

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>>386069718
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>386055618
If you're actually defending Skyrim's Theives Guild in any capacity you don't deserve to live

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422

>>386069870
Holy shit that is gay as fuck.

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>>386069796
>tfw ywn be a lesbian elf
>tfw ywn get your slutty elf body raped and defiled by anti-mer fags

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>Not playing Skyrim to make thicc vampires
for what purpose

>>386070164
>Vampires
Arkay take you, you bloody heathen.

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>>386070164
get staked leech

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Why is Vivec so based?

>>386070164
What mod is the sleeves from?

>>386069863
Elves are gonna get BTFO next game mark my words.

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>>386070414
>Elves are gonna get BTFO next game mark my words
probably not considering the next may be Valenwood

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>>386069863
>there's multiple towers still active or unknown as of skyrim
>Talos worship is banned on paper but thriving in reality.
>Talos himself acts as a kind of tower, and unless all of humanity forgets about him he will always exist, making Thalmor plans impossible to achieve
>Even if the Thalmor succeeded, it wouldn't just be elves left. Both elves AND men would return to their "previous state". The only difference is that men like the current existence, elves don't.

It's the same cycle over and over in TES. Elves come within an inch of achieving their faggy goals and then get utterly buttblasted when men pull a miracle some how.

>>386070376
Helena Succubus

What are some recommended mods that overhaul the different dungeons? Please don't suggest complete shit mods.

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>>386070293
>He doesn't play as a vampire.
>In the second best vampire game there is

>>386070814
OOO
StarX Vampires

>>386070814
Better dungeons

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>>386070590
It would most likely be elves BTFO'ing other Elves.

A bosmer resistance rising up to try and drive out the Thalmor. Maybe for the first time we would get to see the bosmer when they switch into "beast mode"

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>>386070814
Better Dungeons.

>be orc futa
>kidnap the Jarl's daughter
>take her to my Markarth home and tie her up
>proceed to hold hands

Why is TES so lewd?

>>386070954
I can see newshits screaming that the whole bethesda stole the name wild hunt from the witcher despite it being in the lore for ages now.

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>>386070997
the lewder the better

>>386056235
Weird, I had no trouble and I wasn't even a stealth archer. I was a minimaxing faggot, but it still only took a few seconds to down anything

>>386070909
>Skyrim
>Second best anything
What was 1st best out of interest?
VMTB?
LOK?

>>386071239
Vampire Masquerade The Bloodlines fucking kill me.

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>>386070273
>>386070293
What about a thicc cleric then

>>386071395
I only fuck bitches who wear full plate. And only in missionary for the sole purpose of procreation

God damn it, fuck you guys.
Just reinstalled.

What should I roll?

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>>386071485
>What should I roll?
daedric succubus

>>386071485
Mostly pacifist run, you can only kill undead abominations and Daedra. Everything else has to be dealt with through charms/stealth

>>386071239
Bloodlines. Though I meant Oblivion.
I have fond memories of going into a dungeon and staking sleeping vampires. Order of the Virtuous Blood+some other mods= the ultimate Van Helsing experience.

I'd love to see a gothic TES type game with decent combat based on this kind of classical horror stuff.

>>386071757
I feel like there are better vampire games but I just can't think of them.

>>386046208
>Anvil/Bruma
>Armor of the Crusader
>The Ultimate Heist

>>386071857
You would think so, but no. There's also no good werewolf games.

>>386072029
I thought Skyrim had a pretty good werewolf system. Certainly better than Morrowind's.

>>386071857
Not really. Sneaking into people's houses, using hypnotic powers, turning into mist, wolf and all... trying not to make a ruckus so that slayers don't find you, hiding from the sun until you're powerful enough to challenge it, turning your prey after a few nights.
No other game I know does that. If you do know one I'd love to play it.

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What are some top tier mods worth downloading? I haven't played Oblivion in years and have no idea anymore.

>>386072321
Read the thread retard.

>>386072213
No no, it does, but that's not really an indicator of good health for werewolf as a subgenre. There is no VTMB for furry lunar cultists.

>>386072304
Afraid not. Considering how much zombie shit there is, this is an incredibly untapped market.
Weirdly the closest I've felt to it is Dishonoured, using things like possessions, blink etc.

>>386071094
More Orcs plz

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>>386072837
My god I loved Dishonored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZgnXjXk2N0&list=PLclIXr_K89yczK59Zwmj1fMKv1GGPl80H&index=11

>>386073103
Yeah, I feel they could definitely do justice to a proper Vampire game, but Dishonored does have a lot of issues as a stealth game.

>>386065103
Pelinal is the amulet of kings.

>>386073103
what armor

>>386072837
My nigga. I played Dishonored for that reason.

I remember when Oblivion was out for the next few years everyone hated it, gnawed on it for how generic it was and how many lies and promises were broken, how Morrowind was far better etc.

Now it's the same cycle, and in a few years the same will happen with Skyrim

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>>386073002
>More Orcs plz
legendary bikini armor mod

https://pastebin.com/YQMjqXU0

>>386072321
just get the character overhaul and some texture packs

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>>386073365
I hope Arkane get the opportunity to make more games, I think they have a lot of potential as a studio.

Reposting this masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUembBWPPds

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>>386058175
Skyrim Dark Elfs were great, one of the few things I love about that game

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>>386073378
I remember that during that time there was an Oblivion general that was more active than the Morrowind tcirclejerk threads.

>>386072321
http://demwaifus.blogspot.com/search/label/Oblivion

>>386073761
>>386073378
I always thought Oblivion was the best one, even though I grew up with Morrowind.
Morrowind was the best for world and lore, but garbage as a game, Skyrim was the best for gameplay but garbage for everything else, Oblivion hit the middle really nicely.

>>386073378
There were regular Oblivion threads on here well before generals were a thing or Skyrim was even announced. This isn't Zelda cycle shit, there's always been a sizable amount of people that loved Oblivion.

I started playing Morrowind for the first time recently. I decided to join the Mages guild and really liked how small your tasks were compared the the college in Skyrim where you immediately find some Ancient, all-powerful artifact and have to save the world. Problem is, ALL of Morrowind's mage's guild quest feel like chores. Nothing really exciting seemed to happen, all you did was run errands for your superiors.

Then I remembered Oblivion's mage's guild quests. Oblivion had some great faction quests. It struck a nice balance between Morrowind's pointless errands and Skyrim's Immediate Fate of the World quests. You have to first prove yourself at each guild hall in Cyrodill, and while those quests aren't very urgent, they are all still fun and memorable. There is a "Save the World" plot for Oblivion's mages guild, but it gets built up in a fun and satisfying way. I haven't played Oblivion in maybe 5 years now, but I remember the Mages Guild much more than I remember the College of Winterhold, from a game I played last year.

I'm having a lot of fun with Morrowind, but I can't wait to finish and start another big run of Oblivion.

>>386073378
You don't remember that, because /v/ has always had a huge population of people who at least don't really mind Oblivion.

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>>386048491
Just get the unofficial patchfix/overhaul/UI-unshittyfying mod and maybe one gameplay mod like Thieves Arsenal for your stealth archer and that's it. You don't need anything else barring DLC and every mod you add will make an unstable game less unpredictable and more prone to crashing and showstoppers so just play the fucking game.

>>386074506
>That dickhead Telonicus
I love to hate him

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>>386074506
All of the Oblivion guild quests did a really job with pacing and making you feel like you're earning the rank you would need to be to be involved in the big moments for each guild. In Skyrim the DB is the only one that comes close to meeting that standard. The Thieve's Guild and the Companions stories make some effort in trying to make you feel like you're starting from the bottom, but the main questline in neither guild ends up really having much to do with the purpose of the guild it's supposed to be about.

>>386074953
http://demwaifus.blogspot.com/2015/10/oblivion-modding-guide.html

>>386070375
>Vivec
>Based
Pick one.

>>386048679
unironically this

>>386066084
So do I. Way better than any other franchises

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>>386074953
>struggling on whether to use OOO or MOO
>see this
>find out you can use both

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>>386068820
I'm so fucking hard right now

>>386065103
I copied another Anon's post a few weeks ago, thought it'd be relevant

>What I want from the upcoming TES game
More weird lore, definitely. I want more Dwemer tech, more metaphysics, more giant time-fucking golems, more Altmer bird spaceships that shoot lazers, more Khajiit moon colonies, more Mananauts, more gay cyborgs.
Basically all the esoteric shit they've always been afraid to put in the games. I want that shit.

Re-modding the game right now. Played a generic argonian assassin on my second playthrough.

Thinking about doing a one punch man with magic. y/n?

>>386075923
>>386073761
is this you lemon?

>>386077846
yeah

>>386052379
I love markarth

>>386069958
Tough but fair anon

Skyrim actually has god tier daedric quests but no one will believe me

>>386077938
youre still trying for the perfect oblivion or you moved onto other ventures?

>>386078428
both I guess

>>386078209
Maybe not god-tier as it resulted on going into dungeons once more but it was one of the best thing indeed. Better than Oblivion's for sure.