https://www.techpowerup.com/235775/ amd-rx-vega-56-benchmark

>>386012159
J-JUST WAIT FOR *whatever the next AMD GPU is called*

So that's good right?

>only 20% faster

>>386012235
One year later? No, at this point Nvidia can just slash 1070 prices and hold out for the 1170s.

>more powerful and cheaper than the competition

Isn't that a good thing?

>>386012159
Kek, isn't the character's name Vincent Vega?

>>386012351
>>386012920
>380w
>a year later when volta is around the corner

>lowest vega card
>only 20% faster than the 3rd best nvidia card
>only

>>386013841
Vega 56 is 210w TDP and if it's 20% faster than a 1070, then it's competing with the 180W GTX 1080

>>386013949
these are literally only rumored benchmarks, all of this is speculation. 20% would be nice but it isn't enough to justify the fucking millennia since pascal launched. Everybody that wanted to buy something with performance around a 1070 bought a 1070 already, and everyone that's waited for vega would benefit from either buying a used 1070/80 or waiting for volta.

>>386012159
>costs 15% less
>20% greater performance
That seems like a good increase from one year to the next, what's the problem again?

Not that this matters because
>unverified rumours

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Guess I don't need to upgrade any soon then

>>386014162
>Everybody that wanted to buy something with performance around a 1070 bought a 1070 already
I dont buy novidia and i have freesync monitor. Perfect upgrade from RX 470 for me.
>fucking millennia since pascal launched.
As long performance is relevant and price is great it doesnt matter.

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>>386014079
>20 months later and vega MIGHT be able to beat a 1070 with 210w vs rated 151
did i forget to mention, a year later?

>current day
>want to buy a 1070GTX
>VEGA for the same price and 20% faster

if you buy the 1070GTX you're retarded

>>386014779
>a year later?
And?

>>386014853
i prefer shadowplay, my games without issues and my drivers without crashes
so i never buy AMD

>Everybody that wanted to buy something with performance around a 1070
>everyone that's waited for vega would benefit from either buying a used 1070/80
some people don't want to support unhinged psychopathic corporate greed :^)
then again buying a used one wouldn't benefit nvidia, however supporting AMD is nice

>>386014853
>implying nvidia wont drop their prices to further cuck AMD

>>386012159
I want AMD to be huge again.
NVidia getting a monopoly is the worst thing that could happen.

>>386014681
>As long performance is relevant and price is great it doesnt matter
shame the price isn't great but only passable. If it was $300-350 then it would be a no brainer, but if these benchmarks turn out to be unrepresentative of the final product then a mere $50 price drop for a very considerable increase in power consumption doesn't seem very attractive.

>>386015097
They won't, they need margins to survive.
Price war against AMD is the worst nightmare imaginable.

Reminder that /v/ is completely brainwashed for Nvidia.
Even if AMD were to release a golden, highest performance gaming card that's better than a Titan Xp, none of you would even buy it.

I want to upgrade my computer

what spec is affordable and can handle most modern games?

I currently have gtx650 with same outdated mb and cpu

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>>386015302
Who cares?
Gaymen GPUs are fucking boring.
Now THAT is what I'd call hilarious technology.

>not waiting for prices to drop on vega 64
$550 release price for a fury to $240 6 months later

>>386015167
>very considerable increase in power consumption
>TDP rated 210W
>probably will be very easy to undervolt too
LOL.
>a mere $50 price drop
Plus FreeSync, FP16, high bandwidth cache and other cookies.

>>386015478
HBCC is useless for gaymen, you'll never have large enough datasets.

>>386015352
buy a ps4 or an xbox if you are a halofag

>>386015515
Gaming at high resolutions such as 8k and beyond.

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a-atleast we have ryzen

>>386015632
The GPU itself won't be powerful enough to drive any game in 8k.
HBCC is an enterprise feature, much like everything in Vega10.
Goymen got scraps.

>>386015352
RX580 8GB (GTX1060 6GB would also be fine if its considerably cheaper) or Vega 56 would be best if you don't want to upgrade in quite a while
1050ti is the minimum I would recommend for gaymen

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>20% cheaper
>20% higher performance
>better long term driver support
>only downside is slightly higher power consumption
Looks good to me

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>>386015805
>tfw 1050 Ti but not an autist PC gamer about MUH 4K and MUH 144fps, just chilling playing my games at 1080p

>mfw I don't even have a Steam account

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>>386015029
>mfw i waited a year for another housefire that isn't even guaranteed to beat a 1070
>could have played vidya if i just bought a card

>>386015515
>>386015724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toft6fMvByA

memory is always a limiting factor in the long term.

>>386015904
My R9 290 is still doing just fine at 1440p
All I really need is 1440p, 30fps at decent settings and 60fps in faster paced games

>>386016024
there isn't a game a 290 can't run at WQHD 60fps+.

>>386012642
>at this point Nvidia can just slash 1070 prices
They're not in control of GPU prices, anon.

testing

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>>386016061

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>>386015478
>muh freesync
>relying on how gaymin "feels" for a release presentation instead of concrete performance details (just like the bulldozer release)
>some of the panels bundled with vega are known to have problems with freesync
can't make this up

>>386015956
>waiting for technology that you need now that doesn't have a definite release date
This is nobody's fault but your own.

>>386012159
where the fuck is VEGA 48?!

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>>386016176
>20% faster than 1070
>50$ cheaper
>has FREEsync compared to 200$+ for g-sync
You sound jealous.

>>386016451
Why would you need 48CU Vega?

>>386016471
DELET THIS NVIDIA IS THE FUCKING WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED
YOU HEAR ME?!

>>386016541
Calm down JHH you need to worry about visualisation market right now.

>>386016526
~GTX1070 level of performance for 299$?

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>>386016471
Fuck you.

>20% faster compared to gtx1070
but that is gtx1080 performance level

>>386016471
everyone always brings up freesync, but they never mention the ranges on the majority of cheaper displays. By the time you move up to a decent high-refresh rate panel with an effective range, you're already in g-sync pricing.

>>386016471

Not only that, in 6 months it will be 50% faster than 1070 and in one year will beat 1080 to the ground.

>>386016928
yeah, but you get better panel with that, the $200 divide is always there
you say it like every monitor is exactly the same

>PC gaming

Goymen perf is still hilariously low compared to what Vega does in 3D rendering.

Great, i haven't build a pc yet and ill snag the 56 .

>>386012159
too late i already bought a 1070 couple of months ago

Be honest now.

You guys are using your 1070s and 1080s on mostly Dota, overwatch and LoL.

Rest of the time is spent getting high benchmarking scores and posting it on /v/.

>>386017013
Im really curious to see Wolfenstein and Far Cry 5 benchmarks with use of that FP16 thingy.

>>386017235
No one here actually plays video games. People watch shitty twitch streams for 80% of their free time and call themselves gaymers.

>>386017240
There's nothing special about FP16, just more perf for compute heavy effects that don't require full precision.
For example, smoke.

>>386012159
I would have gotten one. Fuck.

My 8 year old PC up and died a little while back and I had to build a new one but this was directly in the middle of the crypto currency bubble when everything from a 1060 to a 1080ti was $600-700 so obviously I got the 1080ti. Thing is I rarely use that much power. I was playing Witcher 3 in 4k/60 but the 4k didn't really add much at my view distance, I turned it down to 1080/60 since why bother when the difference is so small? I guess I "future proofed" for 1080p but it's a little ridiculous.

>>386017029
freesync is definitely better for the lower end, but people have been waiting for a 1070 competitor for 144hz at 1080p/1440p. At that point the difference in price begins to level out. Never said every monitor was the same, if you compare the cheapest gsync and freesync displays you'll have trouble finding ranges for the freesync panels, kinda seems like a smart move by the manufacturer.

>>386012159
Wait, when do the aftermarket cards come out? Im a computer noob but i heard aftermarket cards are better than stock ones.

>>386018015
early september
with amd only cooler is better on partner cards
PCB is solid even on reference

>>386018015
Early September for something like ANUS, niggabyte or MSI, late September for something like Sapphire (aka actually good stuff).

>>386017735
>a 1070 competitor for 144hz
1070 can't do that, 1070 avg fps is 1080 min fps

fun fact about 1080/1080ti btw, their min fps is identical

>>386017389
Why not 1440p/144hz my friendo

>>386018113
asus one looks decent this time around
2.5 slots cooler, it might beat sapphire in quiet department

>>386018229
I don't trust ANUS after their horrific 290x.
Maybe Sapphire will resurrect Vapor-X.

When's nvidia new card?

>>386018254
no need, modern heatpipes are amazing

>>386018471
q2 2018 best bet, being realistic q3 2018

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>a no nvidia bullshit 1070
better than a 1070 is more than I wanted anyway

>>386018471
Probably early Q2 2018.
Jacketman would never launch bigger dies when he can milk consumers with smaller ones.

>>386015956
But you didn't wait for it, you are just a shitposter that would have never bought it even if it was a 100 dollar card that was faster than the 1080ti

>>386018015
>1070 can't into 1440p 144hz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhzPvddIkz8
it certainly can with high settings, but you aren't addressing my main point.
>At that point the difference in price begins to level out

When is Volta coming out anyway, isn't it this year?

>>38601587muiwlocmlmnice cranwimu deformeigtyu ecen avimacklas has shtia waimugiska lao`

>>386018863
waay next year

>>386018863
Q2 2018 at very best.

>>386015097
>nvidia
>dropping price

Top fucking kek.

>>386015375
Why is there cum stain all over the 1080p wallpaper ?

>>386019007
They do.
NVidia is not Intel, they love 60% margins, but they are always ready to cut them to retain marketshare.

Alright where are the cheap 1070s, I'm ready to upgrade.

>>386019071
Somebody jizzed on it.

Should I get an 1060? Gfx cards are expensive here and as long it plays Doom at 60fps I'll take it

>>386019178
>here
Where?
And yes, since 580 prices are still heavily inflated.

>>386019256
Brazil

>>386019178
But what do you do when doom 2 comes out and your 1060 runs its at 35 fps?

>>386019112
What are the chances with cryptofags sucking up the market ?

>>386019293
I'll cry myself to sleep just like usual since it seems that I'll always be late when it comes to GPUs

>>386019287
Favela monkeys are not welcome here, pal.
>>386019293
He buys whatever Navi card he wants.

>>386016252
if i needed a card i'd have bought one, there's no NEED with gaymin, only wants.
>>386018713
i guess it really was foolish of me to want a comparable card for a decent price not a fucking year after pascal. How unreasonable of me.

>>386019112
they already did, but if they will go lower on 1080 they'd have to lower prices on everything else so it would sell at all

>>386019351
ETH is going POS soon, so really slim.

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>>386017235
>tfw still using a 670
>Dark Souls 3 runs at consistent 60fps at all times
>but the ringed city dlc area runs drops to 30-40fps as soon as the camera points at a particular direction, regardless of anything complex is actually on the screen
>all the "fixes" online don't help shit
I know this is just a shitty console port but as is I can't play the DLC until I upgrade my GPU.
Would also be nice to play modern game at max settings 120fps too.

>>386019425
1080 has still retardedly high margins, it's fucking 314mm^2 die that has $500 MSRP.

>>386019362
>He buys whatever Navi card he wants.
What do we actually know about Navi, though?

>>386019537
It's almost certainly MCM GPUs.

Why didn't you buy a GTX 1080 last year?
Literally been enjoying AMD VEGA performance for 12 months now.

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>>386019362
Just want to newer games, mang. I mean, I can but not with decent framerate anymore.

>>386019480
nah, I mean if 1080 drops, say, $50 =1070 is dead, everyone will buy 1080 and so on down to 1050s

same way intel can't lower prices because segmentation is so big

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>[blank] killer

>>386019440
You could opt to get a 60fps 1440p ips monitor instead and forget about 144fps.

>>386018096
>>386018113
Im kinda desperate for a gpu, i think i might just buy the reference card

>>386019614
They'll have to drop 1070 prices too you know.
It's still 314mm^2 die, but a cutdown variant.

>>386019602
for $700? no, thanks

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>no new nvidia cards this year
what gives?

Literally no modern PC games are worth playing. A 1070 is massive overkill as it is.

>>386019662
that's the point i'm trying to explain they'd have to drop whole lineup, I don't think it's reasonable

>>386019671
NVIDIA is too busy jizzing all ova meme learning (but their GPUs will soon be killed by ASICs, jacketman is getting senile).
Who the fuck cares about consumer trash?

>>386018209
It's a rather long explanation but the short of it is I need a large TV sized (50-55") monitor since I'm not the only one viewing it and the only monitor in that size (UHD550) with good latency also happened to be a 4k/60. Last I checked there weren't any 1440p/144hz displays in that size or really any high refresh displays in that size. So yeah I was kinda stuck getting a 4k.

>>386019747
I do care about me.

>bought GTX970 2 years ago
>I just somehow keep getting great frames in all the games I play
>play all my games on 100+ fps 1080p
>people still keep memeing about the card

>>386019801
And jacketman cares not about you.

>>386016060
he clearly said at decent settings
thats obviously not maxed out settings with 8XAA,
my gtx760 gets 60fps in dirt rally in 1440p on medium-high settings.
go ahead and be a good goy and buy an i9+1080ti so you can run those console ports, ill keep playing games made for PC first, games that are actually optimized correctly.

>>386019705
actually this

>>386019840
(YOU) (YOU)
(YOU) (you)

>>386019841
That is why I have a 390, friend. It's good, best GPU decision since 800xt I made.

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>>386019705
>he isn't playing cod zombies with his friends

>>386019852
>maxed out settings with 8XAA,
nobody sane does that, same way nobody downscale from 8k just because they can

>>386019897
Hah. I get it.

>>386019705
linus tech tips just ran crysis 3 and rise of the tomb raider in 16k resolution. crysis 3 was "playable" and rise of the tomb raider did literally .9 frames per second.
all new video games that arent made for PC first are literal wastes of gigabytes. all new console garbage ports deserve to stay on consoles, with the rest of the garbage.

>>386019640
>not getting a 1440p 144hz ips monitor

>>386019989
>reddit tech tips
GUYS 16K RESOLUTION GUYS CRYSIS THIS GUYS 10000 DOLLAR GPU GUYS
So very practical right

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>>386019989
you have no idea what you are talking about
have a pretty lady to calm nerves

>>386020056
at least it proved that crysis 3 was optimized and that rise of the tomb raider was just another copy paste console garbage port with no optimization in sight.

>>386020113
yeah id rather not know anything than play shit fucking garbage console games that run at 1fps on a 20 thousand dollar computer.

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Reminder that AMD's drivers suck and are now slower than drivers that were thrown together on Linux by college students and guys in their spare time.

It will be interesting to see how much faster Vega is as the open drivers continue to get faster, and Nvidia's drivers for the 10** series cards get slower once the 11** series is released.

>>386020114
No Rise of the Tomb Rider runs well on pc. Atleast did on mine. And I also watched the dumb video because my friends are retarded. The reason why Tomb Raider did not really run was because it is so VRAM hungry with its textures and kept choking the cards.

>>386018179
>>386018727

>>386020223
they got 1fps on the tomb raider benchmark on all low settings.
ALL LOW SETTINGS INCLUDES TEXTURE RESOLUTION.
maybe pay attention to the videos you watch before shitposting about crappy console ports.

>>386020178
anon game runs 60fps on 1080 at 4k
you don't even need Ti for that.
stop being retarded

>>386020297
Yea and I ran the game on 100 fps on GTX970 in 1080p. What a shitty optimized game, man. But yea sorry I am just a poorfag who doesnt have 16k resolution. fuck.

>>386020289
sure, sadly not everything revolves around GTA5

>>386019989
Crysis 3 is actually a very well optimized game.

>>386019995
I've had one for a couple of weeks, ended up returning it. I could deal with backlight bleed but IPS glow was noticeable and annoying. 144Hz IPS is a meme, except maybe for that Acer one which uses an updated AUO panel instead of the one every other 1440p 144Hz IPS uses, but probably not even then.

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>>386012159
>20% better product at $100 less
I fail to see the problem.

>>386020330
4k? they were running 16 - 4k monitors with 4xQuadro + super sync setup - usually reserved for sports stadiums.
maybe learn how to read before you call others retarded.

>>386020475
>Crysis 3 is actually a very well optimized game.
when it came out it was regarded as "shit console port" by the idiots that didn't have hardware for it

>>386013949
You mean 5th?
1070
1080
Titan x
1080ti
Titan XP

>>386020475
>monitor you got has a defect
>this means all of those monitors are shit

>>386020412
>you aren't addressing my main point.

Ok you faggots who claim to have 1080s and shit.. What do you even play? Thats overkill to everything expect muh 100 dollarino AAA games that have 1/10 gameplay.

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>>386015870
Amada a qt

>>386020516
>it runs 60fps 4k
>runs 9fps 16k
must be a shitty port then, yup

>>386020520
>mfw i future proofed my self for crysis 3 buy crossfireing hd5850s so that i could max out stalker + mods in dx11.1
feels so good ignoring consoles for the last 11 years

>>386020593
Backlight bleed is a defect which pretty much every single one of those IPS has, you might get one with minimal BLB if you exchange your panel 3-5 times.

IPS glow isn't a defect, it's a feature all IPS panels have to some extend. Those fast gayman ones tend to have a lot of that.

BLB - yellow light at the edges of the screen, usually only seen on black background. IPS glow is silvery, seen on darker backgrounds and changes position as you move your point of view. They put a special film on the more expensive IPS TVs that prevents that glow, but they don't do it for those monitors.

>>386020670
they were getting 1fps, on all low settings on tomb raider, and crysis 3 on better settings was playable 4Kx16 resolution, you fucking stupid faggot you literally cant read.

>>386019705
Might as well say that no modern videogame is worth playing, considering almost everything is multiplat nowadays.

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>>386019897
That was very creative anon.

>>386020798
please ignore "tired gamer" shtick posters

>>386012159
Reminder that AMD cards get better over the years due to drivers, while Nvidia cards get gimped over time.

>>386016083
am i doing this right

>>386020951
>AMD cards get better over the years due to drivers
True.
>Nvidia cards get gimped over time
Not true, they aren't supported for as long as AMD ones, though.

>>386021045
>nvidia cards not gimped
explain why my Fps in dark souls 3 drops to five if i open my character menus on any graphics driver that isnt the one that came on the CD with the GPU box

>>386012159
Seems good to me, new price/performance king at 400 bucks

Not to mention paired with a 1440p Freesync monitor will be significantly cheaper

Nvidia will either drop the price of the 1070, or just keep the price the same until volta and still because it's nvidia

>>386018543
>q3 2017
>q1 2018
>q3 2018
Pick one you autists

>>386021193
>>386021045

yes u read that right i fucking run the nvidia driver that came on the fucking CD with my gpu and anything else is PURE GARBAGE if i try to play das 3 with kb+m.

>>386021045
Kepler cards did get gimped

Did u not see witcher 3 on release, nvidia tanked Kepler performance so they could sell more Maxwell cards

The real problem is knowing that 4k 60 fps is finally within reach on the 1080 Ti, and that shit will remain insanely expensive due to the lack of competition on AMD's side.

>>386021249
every source says q1 2018, dunno where these fans get q3 from

That would mean pascal is current nvidia cards for 2 years, no other gen has lasted that long

>>386021316
>amd gpu with SSD built into it
>lack of competition
wew lad, good goy, better upgrade to that i9, mommys callin you for dinner

>>386020635

It's nice to play NIER: AUTOMATA and BF1 at 1440p with GSYNC and a 120hz monitor. Also: Total War games (Attila, Warhammer mostly, sometimes Shogun 2 but that was much better optimized and ran well on my old 780).

>tfw 1070
>tfw bought a cheapo 1440p Korean monitor
>the monitor is literally just a panel, a stand, and some useless buttons
>works perfectly, dont care about 144hz
I think I'm good until nvidia starts to gimp the 10xx series for their new cards.

>>386021316
Maybe AMD will be kind enough to goymen to engineer consumer chiplet for Navi.
>>386021394
That's an enterprise solution.
Radeon Pro SSG retails for $7k a pop.

>>386021419
Freesync is the same thing but you don't get jewed on the price

>>386021419
What I read is that Nier ran and still runs like poop. And BF1 is a prime example of the THIS REALLY GOOD LOOKING AAA+++ GAME thathasreallyboringgameplay.

>>386021394
You must be fucking retarded if you think anything I said is fanboyism. It's a simple fact, even though 3 of the 4 GPUs I owned were AMD.

>>386021498

Well, desu with you bro, I have a Kabylake Alienware R4 with GTX1080 *second gaming notebook*, but I travel abroad A LOT from work, so I much rather prefer a notebook.

Got a brand new refurb on warranty for ca. 1700 USD (not kidding, I have a weird source for tech who gets a hold of some 'hot stuff' if you know what I mean).

When at home, I connect it to either a monitor/speaker system or 65' OLED TV for some console'like games.

>>386021546

BF1 is fine; so is BF4 (I play both alternatively).

Truth be told, I mainly purchased it because it was practically a steal (as explained in my post above), as well as an upgrade from 780M (OC'ed nonetheless) so I could enjoy newer games at ULTRA instead of high/med.

>>386021823

I still play bf4 but got bored of Bf1 months ago. Mostly due to lack of guns and better ww games like Ro2.

How do i preorder this card. I want to get it before the miners do

>>386022207
Mining boom is over you retard.
ETH is going POS soon.

>>386022259
No it's not. Why are the 1070s still expensive

>>386022301
>Why are the 1070s still expensive
Prices drop gradually and not in an instant.

>>386022331
Oh. When did ETH POsS?

>>386022259
Sadly, the mining boom will never be over until it really, really is. Too many fuckers got roped into that fucking pyramid scheme.

Thread theme, I suppose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBhh23-paLU

>>386022460
>pyramid scheme
What?

>>386022460
>pyramid scheme
This is how you spot someone who has no idea how blockchain and cryptocurrencies work

>>386014853

why would you even want to buy a 1 year old GPU anyway, might as well wait for next year's rehashes

>>386022435
right about when shills flat out stopped shilling

>>386022613
Oh, well i still need to know where i cN preorder the card

>>386015097
People are retarded if they don't think Nvidia has been sandbagging the last couple of years since they knew they had practically no competition. Expect amd to fall back into irrelevance again except for fanboys and ultra poorfags

>he isn't waiting for an undervolted vega nano for an itx build

>>386022717
Nvidia can't sandbag, their life depends on GPU sales.

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>>386022842
6 inches of pure passive aggression

>>386022717
I dunno, there's been a decent performance gain for every new GPU generation over the last few years. With the 4k and high framerate gaining popularity, there's been a high demand for increasingly more demanding GPUs. Compare this to CPU market where Intel have been producing chips with +2% difference with the last year's models. Sure, GPU prices have been on the rise but you can't deny you're at least getting an increased performance at reduced power consumption for what you paid.

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>>386022506
>>386022565
>People getting in early and amassing large sums of something that depends upon a steady of influx of new adopters to inflate the value and also to stabilize and expand the viability of the thing, where the early adopters sell the line of it being a get rich quick scheme knowing full damn well it's entirely for their benefit and nobody coming in after them really has a shot in hell of prospering as much, with the generational influx just putting forward more and more effort for less and less gain
>Not a pyramid scheme

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>>386022580
If you're buying Nvidia cards yes, you should always make sure you have the latest and greatest card.

AMD on the other hand, its not that bad buying a year old card. It will be faster, more stable, and unlike Nvidia who can introduce code that slows their old cards down with nothing users can do about it AMD's good drivers today are developed in the open with lots of input from third parties and the ability to reject intentional slowdown patches and fix unintentional regressions.

>>386023032
>Linux

>>386020759
>>386020593
If you don't live in a shithole, consider uneven backlight bleed to be a defect.
So once you get a monitor, test it, return under warranty, and then reject the purchase if it turns out its a problem inside the series.

>>386023404
It is a defect. It's just a defect most of those IPS panels have.

IPS glow is not a defect and it bothered me way more, anyway.

>>386023520
So it would be a better idea to just get a TN panel instead when going for 1440p144hz?

>>386020475
AU Optronics is shitty company with non-existent QC. I wouldn't bother with any of their matrices unless you're willing to return the monitor multiple time until you get a decent one. Still waiting for any other company to produce a quality 1440p@144 panel so I could finally upgrade. I just cannot go back to TN after using 1200p@60 for the last 10 years

>>386023520
Some Backlight Bleed & good contrast, is by itself is a feature.
Uneven backlight bleed all over, completely uneven? Manufacture defect.

>>386023603
Nothing is stopping you from reading the pixel blending time that is reported, even if they report for the wrong value, meaning it bleeds more.
That said, its pretty faulty on both IPS and TN. You basically wanting 144hz + strobing.

All the monitor drama just makes me miss CRTs.

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>>386023210
The performance delta between Windows and Linux comes from porting games built for DirectX 11 with its extremely non-standard, but well optimized code paths to OpenGL which requires very different code design for efficient operation.
With Vulkan games can be brought over more easily and with less performance degradation since its lower level by design as seen in this benchmark of the Linux exclusive Vulkan version of Mad Max pitting the unofficial Mesa RadV Vulkan driver vs Mesa RadeonSI OpenGL.
Don't think that RadeonSI is slow either, its now the fastest OpenGL driver available for AMD hardware on any platform and actually keeps up with and even surpasses Nvidia's OpenGL driver.
RadV is actually the one that's still slow and immature.

>>386023603
It depends. IPS glow doesn't bother some people, and IPS does have better colors, though modern 8-bit TN aren't terrible either. Try going to a store and maybe ask them to show you IPS and TN displays from different angles and with lighting. Ask them about their return policy, too.

>>386023702
>AU Optronics is shitty company with non-existent QC
Shouldn't actual display manufacturer do the QA for BLB? Because well, it's they who affix the bezels to the panel. But AOC, Acer and Asus are perfectly fine with selling you monitors with ridiculous levels of bleed. At least AOC is cheap, what's the other two companies' excuse?

>>386024092
I've heard some good things about ViewSonic xg2703-gs display which also uses the AUO panel but they actually do some binning so the result is better than asus/acer. It's more expensive though

>>386023921
>Graphics Preset: Low

>>386019440

How is it a shitty console port?

>>386024224
There are actually two version of those AUO panels, something-something.0 and something-something.3. I think Acer XB270HU uses the latter? It's supposedly better, but who knows.

As long as you can return it if you don't feel satisfied, it's worth a try.

>>386024241
RadV is still very immature, it was only a month or two old when that benchmark was run. It still had some major issues with some of the shaders used at higher settings.
For two guys in their spare time it was amazing. So amazing Valve has since hired a bunch of people to work on it and its rapidly picking up feature support and even greater performance.

>>386012210
Navi

>>386022960
Price/performance has gone no where in the last 3 years though

Today u can get a 1060 or 580 for 300bucks

3 years ago u could get a 970 or 290 for 300 bucks

This is mostly due to no competition on 1070 and up, looks like 1070 is getting btfo by vega 56 though

Also high end cards are fucked, instead of 500 bucks for the top end like the gtx 580 and previous the high end is now 700-1200

>>386012159
>falling for the AMD meme

Their CPUs are a generation behind Intel but shills will keep shoving their price/performance meme onto you.

>>386024694
>Today u can get a 1060 or 580 for 300bucks
Where???!?!!

>>386024451
It wouldn't dip to 30 when looking at a particular direction even when all you are looking at is a wall if it wasn't a shitty console port.

>>386012159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k

>>386027130
This topic is about video cards. We know that Ryzen is good. Vega doesn't look quite as good, though.

>>386023921
are these getting windows port?

>>386027275
It looks very good where it works. And it's not gayms.

>>386027427
Well seeing as this is /v/ - Video Games, that's kind of disappointing.

>>386027275
Vega looks very good and attractive for content creation. The problem is that that means the gaming part of the card ended up being lackluster because they can't make a miracle that's amazing at both.
It still seems like RX Vega 56 will be a good value card for gaming however that will last a decent while before you would need to upgrade again.

>>386027682
No, you can't make a bibeocard that's good at 3D graphics and then it's bad at 3D graphics.
>>386027515
They'll fix it eventually, but it'll take like half a year of polishing the drivers.

>>386027682
>Vega looks very good and attractive for content creation
How? nVidia has H.265/HEVC 10 bit hardware encoder and CUDA performance has always been miles better than OpenCL

>>386027917
>CUDA
AMD is heavily investing into ecosystem right about fucking now.
>hardware encoder
And that's any relevant to editing?

>>386012159
you forgot
>pulls watt limit from pci-e and aux power when under load.

if they sold it for like 200-250 bux then it's forgiveable, if only to laugh at consoletards that we get a 12 TFLOP gpu for half the cost of their shit.

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>>386027782
>you can't make a bibeocard that's good at 3D graphics and then it's bad at 3D graphics.
Thanks for reminding me I should never try to discuss anything technical on /v/ again.
>>386027917
Performance wise Vega competes with nvidias best workstation cards, but at a much lower price. Alternatively AMD now also has the huge end game card with the Pro SSG, being capable of editing 8k video in realtime making it very impressive.

>>386028816
Any 3rd party benchmarks to prove this?

>>386028961
Not him but amd cards always shat on nvidia for compute stuff

>>386029479
But it's not compute this time. Right now AMD doesn't have a separate ML offering like V100 or FP64 offering. They are hammering visualisation.

>tfw can't buy them anyway because miners will get them
Cryptocurrency crash when?

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>>386028961
The Vega FE performs similarly to the Quadro P6000, but at a fraction of the price.

>>386029663
Interesting. I forgot the FE was already out unlike the gaming version. Found this review as well

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review/Professional-Testing-SPEC

AMD shills in full force I see.
And the guy crying about how Nvidia gimped his 6 year old entry level card is a nice bonus.

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>>386019602
Heh, me too.
Debating whether I should sell it and get 1080Ti or just wait for Volta.

>>386025035
As soon as the damn cryptocurrency miners fuck off, I guess.

It's fucking lame how the RX 480/GTX 1060 have comparable performance to the R9 290/GTX 970, mid-range is frozen in time.

>>386012642
I'm fully expecting them to drop a 1060Ti to thrash Vega 56

>>386030448
Both 480 and 1060 are cheaper, MSRP-on-launch wise.

>>386030515
Sure, but by 2015 you could get a 970/290 for as much as you can get the 480/1060 now (or at launch at least, before the mining craze).

We got something close to a 10% increase in performance with the new mid-range, and prices didn't improve much beyond 30 to 50 usd.

>>386030715
You need bigger dies for moar perf.
Don't expect miracles until either of companies asses MCM GPUs.

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>tfw have a 1080
AMD cucks lel

>>386030386
>1440p 60Hz

Stick with the 1080

>>386030802
Yeah I know.
But I could get the 1080Ti for ~130€ after selling my 1080.

>>386030801
>b-but Vega will be faster!
15 months and 150 Watts later

>>386030801
But anon, now that the 1080 Ti is out, you're the cuck. Enjoy your deprecated shit.

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>>386012210
>>386024674

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>>386019071
>>386019175

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>>386015681
kek

>>386019928
paying $40 for cod and then $40 for dlcs

wew

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Holy crackers! GPU's have really improved in the last few years, maybe I should upgrade to a 4k capable PC soon.

We've known that Vega wouldn't kill Pascal for many months now, all the way back to their DOOM demo.
Anyone who still had hope after that video is delusional plain and simple.

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>>386027782
>They'll fix it eventually, but it'll take like half a year of polishing the drivers.
kek

>>386033890
4x1080 should play 4k on 40fps good luck with your new build famalam :^)

>>386030274
Since when are 700 dollar 780tis enter level crap lmao. Not even that old, it's as old as 290x which keeps up with 480/1060

>>386034021
Bulldozer was always shit

Ryzen is great, amd already gained over 10% cpu marketshare and Intel is in full panic mode rushing coffee lake and house fire X to the market

>>386034021
>comparing CPUs to GPUs
(You) tried, Brian.
Now go unfuck your fabs.

>>386033890
wait 2 years. gpu's should be able to above 60fps on 4k by then

>>386035278
Yea if you pay £900 for the 1180 ti

Gpu prices have been going up and price performance going nowhere since pascal and amd failing to compete

>>386035945
>performance going nowhere
???

>>386035278
Yeah, that's the plan. Was hoping I could upgrade to 4k in the next black friday / cyber monday but I guess not, back to waiting.