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>>385996297
TPP felt like a waste :(

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Do you remember when Phantom Pain was a ruse?

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>>385996297
>trailer released in August, 2012 for GZ
>TPP came out September 1st, 2015
Jesus fuck it didn't feel that long

>>385996297
I remember posting "GEBUWADING UH" when the english trailer came out in any thread I could find.

>>385996551
What was the deal with this again? The eyes and mouth were actually done in fox engine or something?

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I still don't get why people are so upset about the game. Its everything people asked for. Nothing in the trailers were a lie.

Its your own fault for falling for a fan narrative when Kojima always been known for playing with the audience.

Not only is the story and gamplay even better than most shitty AAA games, its also MGS2 done again. So take your shitty cinematic shit to fucking reddit

>>385996849

He pretended to be the head of "Moby Dick Studios", a game studio that nobody ever heard of, and did an interview with Dorito Pope. He brought with him some exclusive new screenshots for "Phantom Pain", someone had left a FOX Engine logo watermark on the screenshots. Dorito Pope asked about it and the guy got all flustered, which was probably just another part of his act

>>385997178

the story was unsatisfactory. And while the gameplay was fluid and fun, they gave you the most worthless barren empty fucking environment to play with it in. And the monotonous "extract it to motherbase" missions were cancer

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>>385996849
MGSV posed as an entirely different game called "The Phantom Pain" by "Moby Dick Studios" while Ground Zeroes was out.

It was painfully obvious that it was MGS related because of the many MGS references. It really made no sense, and was overall kinda pointless.

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>>385997178
Did we get a fucking return to Camp Omega

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>>385996297
How do think the game would have turned out of the didn't develop it for last gen?

>>385997627
Yeah. In MGO.

>>385996297
I wish TPP just got cancelled and you could just dick around in GZ imagining how it would have turned out

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>tfw you expected MGSV to be 15-ish Omega-sized story missions and 30+ unique side missions with an evolved Peace Walker management system
Sandboxes were a mistake, Peace Walker wasn't perfect, but it laid the framework for something that could be improved/more intimate and/or engaging

>>385998760
It technically was though. Plenty of camps were pretty large(though I don't think as bigs as GZ), and pretty varied.

Fulton felt like a fucking chore though. I feel like I have to get every other soldier I see unless I want my base to be shit. Everyone says you can get recruits by volunteers, but it doesn't work.

>>385996297
GZ and its opening still remain fucking fantastic.

>>385999595
>Fulton felt like a fucking chore though. I feel like I have to get every other soldier I see unless I want my base to be shit. Everyone says you can get recruits by volunteers, but it doesn't work.
I know
V shills on here always go "no ur playin da game wrong!!" in response to criticism of tedious tasks

>>385998760
>>tfw you expected MGSV to be 15-ish Omega-sized story missions
TPP would've been GOAT if that were the case. I have more fun playing through Camp Omega over and over again than I do with anything from TPP.

>can't listen to tapes during FOBs
But why?

>>385999595
>>385999932
The Fulton created an organic reason not to kill people, name a stealth game that does it better.

>>385999932
I replayed the game with that mentality, and it does not work. You need to collect some men. You can't survive with very little. You can get volunteers, but it won't fill your base up. It can also screw you over tons of weapons and resources.

>>386000715
idk any other main mgs entry fuck u

>>386000775
Really, so tell me what was my organic reason to not kill everyone I see in the old games then

>>386000753
well I did have that mentality but I did it anyways because I knew you pretty much have to build that shit up
then i fuckin quit and went to go do things that made me happy
idk why but it didn't annoy me as much in PW

>>386000886
Because you werent meant to leave a single trace of your presence.

>>386000886
well I haven't played mgs2 in a long time but I remember getting into more deep shit when I went lethal in sections where it wasn't necessary

>>386000886
Score, personal challenge, fun

>>386000984
According to whom? head canon, real conan, whats my actual reward a little You're Winner screen at the end, a 100% on my stats card? Thats not organic.

>>386001036
Getting a high score is not an organic reason do something, its something outside of the gameplay

Bringing mobile gaming resource management into MGS was a mistake. I shouldn't be grinding in an MGS game.

>>386000886
There really aren't any outside of special gear at the end, a special code name, and the few special cutscenes/events.
Plus immersion and challenge. Like what >>386000984
I still went Lethal for most of the games except for later replays of MGS3.
>>386000984
That's always kind of bullshit considering every MGS game has an action scene. You're always leaving atleast one trace.
>MGS1
the constant alert while in the tower
>MGS2
the tengu at the end of Arsenal Gear
>MGS3
Shagohad
>MGS4
pretty much everything after Act 2
>MGS5
the entire game. Venom has no tranq weapons when in a custscene, its always that starting pistol and rifle no matter what. Canon wise, you killed a fuck ton of people in 5.

>>386001148
Codec conversations at the start of the game. I clearly remember MGS3 Zero telling Big Boss about it being a stealth mission and to not leave a trace of his existance, and that if hes found out the US will deny any involvement and he will rot in a Soviet jail for the rest of his life.

>>386001389
Ok but how is rping a more organic motivation to not kill than having tangible gameplay benifits

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>>386000886
>>386000715
The problem isn't with killing or sparing.

The problem is having to sidetrack from the mission you are doing in order to Fulton men in order for your base to grow. You end up getting yourself into trouble when you should be doing your objective. Its all nothing from a huge distraction. Its practically grinding.

Stealth games just have you avoid or kill. MGSV forces you to fuck around with them. Its fun in the other games because its optional and personal. You also get some rewards for a lot of them too. But in MGSV, you are forced to not only go non-lethal, but get yourself in danger.

Its not as bad it PW because, truth be told, PW as a game is very easy. Especially on the HD versions. Fulton is also very effective because logic is thrown out the window, and there aren't that many guards on screen at a time. MGSV on the other hand, adds in realism to it, which just makes the busy work more tedious.

You also can't rely on doing it after missions either because of the story. Then theres that one fucking mission that took me out for fucking cut content.

No other franchise does this shit, and that god for it.

>>385997647
That isn't the issue at all, the issue was not giving them enough time to finish the game.

this shit was a bigger scam than no mans memes and the whole industry let that fucking hack kojima get awau with it.

>>386002698

assuming the game was in the works not long after MGS4 release, they had 7 years to get their shit together, not enough time isn't an excuse

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>>385996297
KEPT YOU DISSAPOINTED HUH

>>386003278
:(

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>>386003385
You should have seen my smile when I saw how bad tpp was. I always have thought kojima was a hack so I finally got what I wanted.

I still wished we got a game about Naked turning from hero to villain as he descended into madness chasing after his white whale.
Skull Face was a boring villain too.

>>386001362
>MGS5

Anon there is no MGS5. Do you mean V?

>>386003581
I was like a fucking 11 year old on christmas when I got it.
I really felt like I had been tricked, it was like I was playing a different game from the one all the reviewers were jacking off about.
It's so weird to think that the man responsible for this game was also the one responsible for MGS1-4, like wtf happened???
I'm going to try to be optimistic about death stranding, I'm not going to buy it at release though.
I hope it will be good :')

>>386003943
the whole game is a piece of shit.
At least the sneaking and spying is ok, but the story, characters and else sucks ass.

Its incredible how an obviously unfinished game still managed to be better than most finished games.
That said GZ was better than TPP. Thats due to its length obviously, but the design of the map was just great. That was missing from TPP: tightly designed areas.
TPP is still the best main Metal Gear game next to 3

>>386004136
Death starnding is a TBS, isn't it? has nothing to do with metal gear

>>385996297
I'll never forget how excited I was.

>>386004201
>characters and else sucks ass
It has the best characterizations in all of metal gear. characterizations like huey's or even venom snake's and miller's would have never been possible in the other games which were mostly comic book tier wank stylistically.
that alone makes it thematically superior to all the other "games"

>>386004291
>has nothing to do with metal gear
And?

Also what do you mean TBS?

>>386004414
Lmao, your dick sucking of hackima has no limits boy
I do admit the quarantine scene really was something, but other than that shitty game.
Maybe the ashes into the sea was ok too, but that's it? almost the entirety of mgs4 was memorable, despite the complains of movie game.

>>386004580
Turn based strategy
>Playing games just because a certain faggot made them, not because you like the game theme or the genre
Good kojidrone

>>386003182
A game of this scale needs a shit ton of time, the first few years were rumored to just be building the FOX engine

>>386004656
Yeah no not a turn based strategy, no idea where you got that from.
Anyways you're mad fucking annoying and I really don't know how you thought what you put in your meme arrow was intelligent

>>385997647
Probably wouldn't have been so optimized for pc

>>386005105
Show me a source that says otherwise. An anon said it was TBS, so I took that theory as a "suggestion". Otherwise we don't fucking know. And reminder that your god hackjima said he was tired of producing metal gear solids.

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>tfw I haven't been able to get my hopes up for a game since MGSV because I was so let down
I feel like a broken man

>>385996297
>Oh boy, yet another Metal Reddit Solid
Yeah, I do.
And as expected, it was fucking trash.
Only blind, retarded Kojimadrones thought it was going to be anything else.

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>>386006016
>Muh Nuclear!
>Muh Revenge of the sith
>Muh movie

Maybe you should fuck right back off to reddit. The game had everything in the trailers. The gameplay was 10/10. The story on the game itself is better than most games. All it needs is DLC for the ending.

MGSV>MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>MGSPW

>>386007234
The story was fucking retarded just like in every single MGS, and the gameplay, instead of clunky as fuck, just repetitive.

>extremely hyped for MGSV
>loved it completely
>completely satisfied
>finished playing it, uninstalled and never looked back

V is tied with 3 and 2 as my favorite.

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>kojidrones now claim the game was goat just out of butthurt when told howmuch it sucked
Oh lala

>>386007234
You're delusional
>>386007273
You're a dumbass

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>>386007539
NO KOJIMA IS OUR GOD HE MAKES ONLY 100/10 GAMES
I WISH I COULD SUCK HIS DICK AND KISS THE GROUND WHERE HE STEPS ON YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT

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>>386007539
Says the newfag obsessing over the game trailers. No one should've taken them for face value after MGS2.

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The music track that plays during this is the only time I felt like it was MGS

>>386008006
Fuck OKB Zero was amazing

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>386008225
I think Hellbound was slightly better desu

>>386005927
I'm with you on that one anon

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ground zeros had better character movement than TPP, i dont know what it was but that was one of the reasons why i was so excited about TPP because GZ feelt so fuckin good.
Im not saying that TPP wasnt a great fucking game (gameplay wise), but it felt less engainging IMO

>>385997204
that whole ordeal was great fun