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What's going on at Atlus? It took 4, 6 and 7 years to go

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What's going on at Atlus? It took 4, 6 and 7 years to go from Persona 4 to Arena, Q, and Dancing All Night respectively, but this week they've been announcing spinoffs for an installment that didn't even get its improved edition like nobody's business.
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>>385986512
That mega survey SEGA had in Japan was a list of games in development.
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>>385986512
P5 is way more popular than 3 and 4 ever were, and the P4 spinoffs already proved that fans were interested in them.
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>>385986512

P5 cost a shitload of money and took more than half a decade to release.

It's not really much of a wonder that they want to recoup some more of that investment by expanding on the brand.
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>never release P5 on vita
>P5 Dancing star night is on vita

Are they doing this just to piss us off?
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its for the better. If they're intent on still making Persona games then move on to 6 asap. Please no decade of spin offs.
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>>385987826
kek then what do you think of the Q games?
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>>385987850
This, I'd rather have all the spinoffs dumped at once within a 3 year period and then P6 than P5 shilling for a decade
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P4 spinoffs were experimental.

Remember P4 is a barely playable piece of shit produced on a shoestring budget and it was a surprise hit.
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>>385987826
Just use remote play.
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>>385986512
Atlus' old owner went under before 4 and 5 which is why everything took so long to come out. But now Atlus has Segabux so the Persona floodgates are open.
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Atlus realized that people will buy anything with the Persona name on it. It prints money.
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>>385986512
>that didn't even get its improved edition like nobody's business
And it's not going to get one because that would be retarded. They're not going to rerelease a game that came out last year on a current system.
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>>385988010
>it was a surprise hit
>Atlus finally nerfed the occult bullshit and made a likeable cast
They knew it would be a top seller.
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>>385986512

Hopefully they release the big interest in Persona series and SEGA wants to increasing funding for the development of future games.

We may get Persona 6 by 2021
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>>385987826
P5 most likely wouldn't run on the vita without compromises
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When Persona 6?
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>>385988525
2019
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>>385988297
this, it barely runs on the ps3
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>>385988580
that sounds way too soon.
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>>385988297
P3P being so cut down was entirely due to laziness.
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>>385988297
It would run easily, it's a ps3 game anon and on top of that it's an anime game(doesn't really have top notch graphics).

Lower res and a few graphic options down.
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>>385988685
Trust me, my dad works at Atlus.
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>>385986512
Atlus likely won't announce the improved version until the anime is nearly done so probably late Spring/early Summer if it airs in January.
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>>385986512
>tfw Atlus is announcing spinoffs like mad
>but probably won't localize Alliance Alive
Well at least PQ2 sounds cool
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>PQ2 3ds exclusive
ffffffucking damnit. Why can't they just upscale the game and throw it on the Switch so I don't have to deal with 240 maximum vertical pixels
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>>385989092
Because it's EO
And the graphics are cheap looking 3D models with a few cardboard looking standees in the environments, you're not missing much with the low res on the 3DS.
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>>385989092
How would you draw maps without opening up a menu on the Switch?
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I know all these spin-offs are shameless cashgrabs but i dont give a fuck i just want more Persona.
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>>385988685
To be fair, a lot of how long P5 took came from them adjusting to HD and building the game engine. With P6 they'll probably just upgrade the engine a little bit and start right from there.

Expecting 2020/2021 myself though.
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>>385989219
Just dont
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>>385988827
tell your dad to tell them to slow down then, i'd love for the game to come out that soon and it really shouldn't be impossible. But I know the plot is going to be rushed garbage if they make the game so soon as their also putting out the spin off train. I do not have faith in them pulling that deadline off and delivering a non mess.
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>>385987629
>P5 cost a shitload of money and took more than half a decade to release.

Persona 5 started development in 2011. Released in 2016 in Japan.

Developer said they had to hold it for one year because they needed to create 2D assets for the PS4 version native 1080p visuals.

""The 2D elements of the game had to be completely redrawn, from the PlayStation 3 originals, in order to even work on PS4," the game's director, Katsura Hashino, tells me. "But in the end, we feel that Persona 5 has turned out to be an outstanding game on both platforms.""

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/qk9xkm/precious-moments-hype-and-high-school-a-conversation-with-persona-5-director-katsura-hashino

The development time of Persona 5 was really 4 years, with the 2015 delay having to polish the PS4 port. It is still the most costly game made by ATLUS, it also was rewritten by the 2011 earthquake and nuclear power plant meltdowns in Japan.
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>>385989515
>It is still the most costly game made by ATLUS
that's cause they couldn't just reuse most of the assets from previous games like they always do with other games
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>>385989259
>>385988580
Atlus USA didn't get the final script to translate Persona 5 until the game launched in Japan in September 2016.

The PS2 was released in 2000, the PS3 in 2006, the PS4 in 2013. 2019 landscape would be the period for PS5 to be released, especially when the PS4 and Xbox One are woefully underpowered consoles.

What was it that delayed Persona 5 at the last minute, oh right, the PS4 port. And what's probably coming out in 2019? Oh yeah, the PS5.
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>>385988943
I'm still butthurt about Touch Detective 3.
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>>385988685
modeling all the demons and animating them for HD probably took a shit ton of time considering how many there are. now that they can reuse all those demons, P6's development is mostly confined to whatever new assets are need for the game, which should be much less than what P5 needed.

I'd bet P6 is already in development at the moment.
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>>385986512
Persona has gone mainstream, and P5 has been out for a while for japan
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But where is the SMT HD PROJECT?
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>>385989889
Don't remind me
it hurts
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>>385990003
>I'd bet P6 is already in development at the moment.

Wada's start of the year comment sure does imply that since he seems to be the one taking over for Hashino.
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>>385990121
Didn't that just begin production when it was announced? I wouldn't expect anything for a long time.
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>>385989309
It's an EO game, you can't just not have map drawing.
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>>385990287
No its a persona game
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>>385988150
>This naive motherfuckin pleb
Expect an announcement at the end of the year and a release next year. TGS will be it.
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>>385988685
>Persona 3, 2006
>Persona 4, 2008
...
>Persona 5, 2016
>Persona 6, 2019
_
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All of that time with P4 was a learning experience for them to properly milk the fuck out of a property. Now with P5 they're refining it, but honestly it all seems way too quick.
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>>385990363
That is also an EO game.
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>>385990121
Soon.
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>Company on milking games:"I am growing stronger"
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>>385990392
I feel it's easier money to release the "upgraded" P5 in like 2018 then P6 in 2020.
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>>385990392
>Ignoring a fucking 8 year gap and how the series was handed off to a different team
We will get an enhanced edition by the end of next year or early 2019 to cut their teeth on.
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>>385988185
>dick suckers
>likeable
If you enjoy blatant self-inserts maybe.
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>>385988627
>barely
Anon, why do you tell lies?
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>>385990661
We're not talking about 5.

>>385990392
Also compare the dates from 1 to 2 then 2 to 3. Anyone saying P6 will come out in a long time doesn't know anything about Atlus and is a P5 babby.
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Probably because it's all different teams making them?
Since EO is basically over they can bring them over for PQ2, and then the dancing games probably take six months to make maximum, maybe even less.
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>>385990901
P4 is dick sucking all around, the only competent character literally loses it all once she has the chance to fuck you. In P5 it's shown most of the cast is pretty fucking dumb in things they aren't accustomed to. Still think it's retarded they don't know what a "cleaner" is yet when you get Makoto, Ann suggests Fixer.
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>>385991072
>Since EO is basically over
Since when? EOV isn't even out yet.
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>>385991424
EO will die with dual screens.
>inb4 some retard comes in ranting about the mobile phones and the resolution of the nintendo switch
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>>385991345
P5 is also dick sucking. Ann, despite meeting you only a few times and never had a actual conversation, spills her life story over you despite telling you to fuck off.
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>>385991072
>>385991424
>>385991546
I guarantee we will get EO Untold 3 on the 3DS, screencap this post.
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>>385991690
Yeah it'll probably happen. 3DS is still a long way from death.
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>>385986512
I'm just glad they're getting this shit out of the way now. Hopefully it means we won't have to wait 9 years again for another mainline game
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Persona Q2 will feature Persona 5 and Persona _.
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>>385990221
>Wada's
Who is that again and what has he done up untill now?
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>>385991959
5
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>>385991553
Isn't that because you didn't tell her to go fuck herself immediately after that? And it's not her life story, it's her fucked up situation and you do have to chase her all around the station just to finally get her to calm down. You seem to forget that was the moment when Kamoshida wanted to fuck her at all costs.
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I still want my Platinum developed Persona Spin-off featuring Aigis, Labrys, and Adachi working for the Shadow Operatives as a Suicide Squad-eque thing. Maybe a bonus story with Liz.
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>>385992127
No, she's on the phone with Kamoshida and gets mad. MC notices her and tries to talk to her but she tells him to leave her alone and runs away, chase begins, ends at the diner. Then tells a complete, (who is viewed as delinquent) stranger her situation about Kamoshida.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SxSXjjp9hQ
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Post plot to P6:
>main character is a guy, and really cool and good at everything
>your best friend is a charismatic boy with character development sprinkled into the main story
>female best friend is so perfect to the point of being bland
>talking animal demon guide who has amnesia
>dark, brooding boy with feminine elements
>intellectually stable girl who follows da rules
>teenage detective
>sociopath villian who puts up an act the whole time that isn't entirely convincing when you look back at it

Actual main story elements:
>you and your best guy friend discover another world filled with demons on accident
>the other world in the end was ultimately some demigod's creation and they were just testing you
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>>385987826
P5 Crimson will be a launch title for Vita 2. My dad works at Sony and my other dad works at Atlus
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>>385991959
Q
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>>385986868
Link anyone?
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>>385992871
You refusing to leave her alone after nearly freaking out about Kamoshida telling her to see him that night which was basically implied to be sex to allow Shiho to stay on the team even if she was still being abused by him. You do realize people talk about shit to people when it's literally about fucking a teacher to "help" get them off their friend's back.
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>>385992078
https://www.giantbomb.com/kazuhisa-wada/3040-90727/
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>>385993423
You admit it's major dick sucking. Its the same situation as in P4, they do one good dead (or nothing at all) and everyone jumps on them.
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>>385986868
Can't wait for 1 and 2 and 3 HD remasters, Persna online game, P5 fighting game, board game, a shooter AND P6
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>>385986512
persona 5 made like a bazillion dollars and is borderline mainstream now, if not outrightly.
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When should we expect the first PQ2 trailer?
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>>385994272
Same time as the SMTV trailer.
S-soon?
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>>385988297
seeing as they ported borderlands 2 to the vita, i wouldnt doubt the vita being able to run p5
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>inb4 two decades of spinoffs are upon us
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>>385986868
My girlfriend spent like half an hour translating that survey for me. What a fucking waste of time, I didn't want any of these stupid spin-offs.
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What is the point in a P5 "crimson" version? With P4 it made sense, but why do you guys think it will release so soon? For what purpose? At that rate they should just make the extra content DLC.
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>>385994658
This is something Atlus does. They don't like content DLCs (as in anything other than cosmetics), they do like rereleases like SMT:A.
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>>385994658
I don't think there'll be a Crimson either, at least not anytime soon. P5 felt really complete and polished.
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>>385994658
Extra money and they know that their fans will buy it. They can rush the game then get people to buy the finish version ever since Nocturne.
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>>385994762
>SMT:A.
Apocalypse is a sequel, idiot
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>>385994762
SMT:A was a sequel, not a rerelease
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>>385986512
because they already had the idea for persona dancing games after coming up with it the first time you dumb
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>>385994658
It doesn't need to make sense. Just look at their track record for the last few years:
Persona 3 (twice)
Persona 4
Devil Survivor
Devil Survivor 2
Etrian Odyssey 1
Etrian Odyssey 2
Strange Journey
Radiant Historia

The odds are pretty good we're getting it sooner or later.
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>>385995308
Every single one of those was ported to a different console, with the exception of F.E.S if you didn't mean p3p. P5 can't go onto any other console.
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>>385994658
They want Crimson version soon so they can shitpost how they waited for the decisive version, thanks for beta testing, etc.
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>>385994658
Atlus is lazy as fuck and wants free money for work that has already been done. The amount of "enhanced" ports they have released is fucking ridiculous
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>>385995112
>>385995129
It's the same fucking game fuck off
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>>385995684
It literally absolutely fucking isn't.
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Persona 5 is so good
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>>385995684
It fixes everything from IV. It is not the same game.
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>>385995431
I don't think a switch port is out of the realm of possibility eventually, but its not like they need to do it this gen either. They could always add it to a lazy remaster to make it more appealing.
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Anyone have the pic of Johnathan saying "Atlus will makes us live in a world where Persona 4 never dies."?
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>>385995919
They wouldn't release an expanded edition across consoles like that, even if they could. Is the switch even as powerful as the ps3?
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>>385995918
But IV is better, though IV:A is still a great game.
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>>385995772
>>385995918
Same engine, same assets, same fucking everything. If this SMT4 was a 90s PC game, Apocalypse would've been a halfprice expansion set.
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>>385996149
It doesn't even have Toki. How could it be the better game?
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>>385995684
How fucking retarded are you, like actually?

>>385996149
IV had a much better cast, setting, and story. IV:A blows it out of the water in gameplay, though.
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>>385996243
>much better
It was marginally better. And it's still not good enough to justify playing 4:A over with the improvements it brought.
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>>385996186
Oh, so you know it's a sequel and you're just being a pedantic tool. Fuck you.
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>>385996201
Dude IV: A is good but let's not pretend the cast is good. Probably one of the weakest casts of any SMT, though Dagda and Gaston are pretty good,
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>>385996106
I dunno if its bottlenecked by hardware but it has a better GPU than the PS3. Either way Persona 5 is not pushing the boundaries of what the PS3 can do by any means, it probably could run it without any compromises.
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>>385996309
If anyone's pedantic here, it's you fucks. Okay, Apocalypse is not LITERALLY EXACTLY the same game as 4, but you know damn well what I mean.

It's the same shit released one more time with minor changes so they can charge full price again. Literally what P4G is.
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>>385996186
>Same engine, same assets, same fucking everything.

I mean, you could say this about a good half of the megaten games. Atlus is pretty lazy when it comes down to it.
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>>385996186
>Nocturne, DDS1, DDS2, Raidou 1, Raidou 2, Persona 3, Persona 4 are the same game
sure thing
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>>385996414
>Minor changes.
An entire new cast of characters, setting, and story are not minor changes you fat fuck.
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>>385996414
The game has a completely different story with completely different characters. Fucking kill yourself, it's a different game.
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>>385996529
Yes, they are. I'm sorry you don't know what it takes to create a video game, but writing a 20 page script is not the main cost.
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>>385996578
(you)
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>>385996578
You're actually fucking retarded. Seek help.
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>>385996149
What? The gameplay is massively improve from IV. It's also a completely different game. Not only that it has one of the best final bosses of all time.
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>>385996616
>>385996626
>no arguments from buttblasted drones defending atlus' hyperjewery
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>>385996686
(you)
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Persona Q Dancing when?
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>>385996686
Last (you) from me. Go take a shower. I can smell you through my computer screen. Make sure to clean under your fat folds this time.
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>>385996851
How can you define a script rewrite as a new game? Please outline your mental gymnastics for everyone else.
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>>385996315
IV's cast is great at the start, but the Samurai go full retard the moment you decide to split though. Like Walter immediately goes from 'Yeah this feudal shit is fucking stupid' to 'lets suck Tokyo into a black hole' and you aren't given the option to do anything but help him. They stop being consistent characters and just become what the writers need them to be.

In my book IV's and IV:A's casts are the same quality. I like them both but neither of them are by any means perfect.
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>>385986512
>they've been announcing spinoffs for an installment that didn't even get its improved edition like nobody's business
This is how one can tell that ATLUS succeeded in brainwashing their fanbase. Who now expect the release of their long awaited mainline game to be incomplete, and will gladly wait for them to release the "finished" edition later on and sell it as a new game.

So, enjoy your spin-offs, I guess.
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>>385996946
It's actually baffling how stupid you sound. I legitimately can't tell if you didn't play the game and you seriously think it's just a rerelease or if you did and you're just a fucking troll.
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>>385997040
Stop replying. He wants the (you)s.
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>>385997040
You're being pedantic again. I am very well aware that the script has been rewritten, and that is how Atlus is convincing you you're playing a new game.

Which for all intents and purposes outside of story, you aren't.
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I wonder who they'll have as the non Perdona user dancing, for each game, since P4D had Nanako.

P5D can have between Mishima and Hifumi I imagine.
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>>385996414
>Combat system changes
>Entirely new story
>Almost entirely new cast
>New demons and features
>Same length as the previous game without the fucking side-quest padding

Its not literally the same game. Its not an expansion pack. Its an entirely new game that takes place in the same setting. Saying IV:A is a rerelease is like saying Persona 4 is a rerelease. Pedantry aside, you have no idea what the fuck you're saying.
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>>385996946
Because it has a completely different story, cast, amtosphere, routes, revamped gameplay with new dungeons new demons, new music and other shit. I guess Super Mario Bros and SMB3 are the also the same game sold separately.
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>385997134
It's not a rewrite of the same script, idiot. It's a completely different scenario that has nothing to do with the original game beyond taking place during the third act of it. I know you already know this and you're not getting another reply from me.
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>>385993971
>Persna online game
Will it be like The Night Before & Ain Soph? That's the real question.
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>>385997192
desu i just wanna know if i can dance as the dog
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>>385997134
I guess Digital Devil Saga 2 is just a re-release of the first one, then.
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>>385997260
>The Night Before & Ain Soph?
What the fuck are these? I have literally never heard of them.
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>>385997192
Let's hit it, Fuuka!
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>>385990121
There's a SMT concert, separate from the Persona one, that's going to happen.
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>>385997236
You mean exactly same locations, dungeons and assets as the old game.

Combat system changes are minor, story changes are cheap, new demons are few in number.

Just because they don't market it as a spruced up rerelease doesn't mean it isn't. Stop sucking cock please.
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>>385997440
When is that?
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>>385996982
I have to disagree. I won't say they're deep or anything but it was nice how involved in the game they were and overall I do feel they added to the story. Same for Isabeau, it was cool to have the heroine be a actual part of the story, the fact she actually opposes you in the law or chaos path was cool too. I won't say they are absolutely amazing but I found them enjoyable.
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>>385997461
>reddit spacing
The truth was right in front of me all along.
Leave. And don't come back. Ever.
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>385997461
This is my final (you) that I won't give
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>>385990121
Last we heard of it was a dev saying its fun to play it in undocked mode in bed during a live stream
those fucks finished it and are keeping it to themselves.
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>>385986512
>tfw this is the announcement I've been waiting for as an EO fan and I'm more excited for this than I was for P5
Pls be good Atlus
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>>385997657
SAME
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Can we just ignore the guy posting about IV:A? He's either shitposting or a poorfag and couldn't afford IV:A so he's assblasted.
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>>385997657
EOV is coming out. Why care about this?
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>>385997762
Because it's going to be fun.
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>>385997693
hey
>>385997762
Because I knew EOV was coming out a year ago, this is a new announcement.
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>>385997657
This.
I deeply enjoyed PQ, and I want to play a new installment where they hopefully fix its issues.

>>385997762
It came out a long time ago, mate.
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>>385997657
PQ was my first MegaTen game and my first EO game, both of which instantly became some of my favorite series, so I'm really fucking pumped for PQ2. I'm really looking forward to more first person dungeon crawlan and I can't wait to see more of my wife Futaba
Also looking forward to the soundtrack, hopefully it delivers at least one banger to rival this gem from the first game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rRlfFzgWM
Please don't let Lotus Juice be involved
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>>385997483
October 20th for the Law side, and then a Chaos one on the 23rd.
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>>385997483
There are actually two concerts. The LAW SIDE concert is on October 20 and the CHAOS SIDE concert is on October 23. Hilariously tickets for the CHAOS SIDE concert will cost 6666 yen.
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>>385998183
>>385998146
>october
THE WAIT CONTINUES
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>>385988185
>P4
>likeable cast
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>>385998146
>>385998183
Does someone come out as Lucifer and dance to the nocturne battle theme?
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>>385997461
I'm sorry are we not talking about a megaten game where assets have been used and reused for over a goddamn decade
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>>385997952
Yeah
I want to see what they'll do with combat
>>385998072
It was my second MegaTen, but I loved the EO style mapping
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It fucking sucks that they're just rehashing the P4 spinoffs they had with P3/P5 now. Like just straight up reskins, no effort in making all new spinoffs.
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Remember all the PCbros linking PC Gamer and SEGA Europe saying Persona and Yakuza were going to be released on PC? How BTFO are they?
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>>385998742
This is only the beginning.
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>>385997532
Well yeah, they're fine. But they're just fine, and that's my point. Compare them to how Nocturne or even Strange Journey handled the other characters, where they make dumb or emotional decisions but its not a complete about face from who they were.

I like Walter, I like Isabeau, I don't like Johnathan but I also like Asahi. Plus everything about Dagda is amazing. I just don't think there's that big of a difference in quality.
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>>385998320
P4 has the most likable cast outside of P2IS and P3.
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>>385999054
>P4 has the most likeable cast outside of these other games which have more likeable cast

Go figure. Next you'll say P4 is in the top best six games of the franchise.
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why didn't they just release Persona Q2 on vita? Everyone uses automap anyway
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>>385997342
3:The Night Before was a browser title the took place the night before P3 happened, you playing as someone stuck in the dark hour. It sorta was used to advertise P3 but, due to some sort of success I think, was shut down & later made into another browser title/mmo sorta? game of the same design called Persona Ain Soph, hebrew for Infinity, which was later closed sometime around 2010, but it lasted for a while. It was Japan exclusive, but some still got a chance to play it outside of Japan before the server shut down. I've seen no footage of the game in action, just screenshots.
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>>385999046
Jonathan's the best though. He actually is level-headed given his upbringing, instead of being a retard, and despite being Law he considers the benefits of Chaos and is pretty passionate and strong. Like when he basically strangles that Ashura-Kai grunt and lifts him off the ground while yelling about his FELLOW samurai was awesome.
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>>385999379
Sorry, but no.
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>>385999207
Casts go:
P2IS > P4 > P3 > P2EP > P5 > P1
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>>385999379
release begging is always funny no matter what console it's for
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>>385999557
P4 has Yosuke and Teddie, so it ranks lower for me.
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>>385999557
4 cannot possibly rank that high when Teddie exists
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>>385999697
I find Yosuke and Teddie inoffensive compare to characters from 1 and 5.
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>>385999697
>Years later and people on /v/ still hate Yosuke

I still don't see what's so bad about Yosuke. I can't believe we've got faggots here who hate on him but think Naoto and Chie are acceptable or interesting characters. I swear I've feel like I've had the exact opposite feelings about the P4 cast compared to everyone else here. Yosuke, Yukiko, Kanji, and Teddie were my best friends during my playthrough.
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>>385999941
I found Yosuke endlessly more tolerable when I played an undubbed version of the original P4 instead of my original Golden run.
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>>385999884
I respectfully digress.

>>385999941
Yosuke is a faggot who is only able to hang out with the group because he won't stop lapping behind Yu and calling him partner without the player being able to agree or protest in any way, while still deeply resenting him yeah, the s-link solves that, but the story never addresses s-links, so...
Naoto sucks too, although she is inoffensive; Chie is somewhat acceptable given the setting and tone of the game.

And Teddie is just a creepy fucker who gets a free pass for being a wacky japanese mascot character.
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I am so fucking sick of handheld gaming. Fuck off with that shit. I don't want ugly pixelated garbage. No one even fucking uses their portable as a portable. Just fucking make shit for consoles you stupid faggots.
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>tfw you'll have to wait 2 years after BBCTB releases to get an announcement for P5A
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>>385987826
Still waiting for P3 FES for the Vita anon...
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>>386000521
But how else will the japanese wageslaves get a chance to play videogames?
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>>386000550
>really wanna replay P3
>have this feeling that Atlus will release a "definitive edition" at any moment
>don't want to feel burned out of P3 if this hypothetical game comes out
>never get to replay P3
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>>385998072
>Hating Lotus Juice
Are you mental?
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>>386001169
He went gorillas bananas.
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>>385999941
He's constantly sucking your dick throughout the 60-100 hours, he's whiny, he's terrified of the only tolerable male of your party, most of his "hilarious comedy" stems from being injured or explaining jokes, and has no actual character development of any kind after he gets his Persona at the start of the game.
As awful as Teddie is at least he has some growth.
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>>386000429
>yeah, the s-link solves that, but the story never addresses s-links, so...
What the fuck? Social links are where character development happens. You can't complain about him getting no character development and just say that doesn't count for some reason.
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>>385999941
I'm with you. Yosuke is best bro
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>>386002838
The Arena games imply they never got their evolved Personas at least until P4U.
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>>386002838
Yeah. Because it's fucking awesome how everyone matures in their rank 10 event s-link, but then act like total retards during the rest of the game.
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>>385986512
not being a game that came out on the end of the PS4's life cycle helps
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>>386002390
You're forgetting that no one in p4/5 has character development outside of their social links which doesn't even matter in the main story since its not addressed
I was hoping after 10 years that atlus would at least attempt to squeeze a bit of s-link progression into story dialogue choices but i shoulda known better
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>>386002935
You're just being pedantic. How does this matter at all? Only a complete and utter moron would take that to mean all the social links are non-canon.
>>386002948
I never said it's a good thing, but that's just how it is. It's still character development, you can't just say it doesn't count.
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What excited you more? P3DAN or P5DAN?
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>>386003210
Persona evolution would imply that the person actually had some kind of development. According to that anon, p4u implies that they evolved their personas way later which would infer that the social links never happened

>>386003438
P3. Door-kun is alive and we get to see the whole p3 cast in HD models. Definitely looking forward to the p5 remixes though
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>>386003438
P5DSN, since I like the soundtrack more personally, but I'm pretty much just as excited for P3DMN too.
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>>385987447

This.

Now that they know idiots will slurp up anything with the Persona brand on it, they have no reason to hold back.
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>>386003210
Guess what faggot, those Arena games are fucking canon, just like PQ is canon, for no reason since the ending implies nothing comes of it.
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>>385997246
Where did you find this in that image quality?
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>>385997192
Persona 3 has a large enough cast that they probably won't need to make a lot of nonplayable dancers
Though I can see Ryoji and Chidori becoming dancers. Of course, Elizabeth is a given.

Persona 5 I could see them using Sae. Kanami probably will come back this game. The game will probably take place after P5 so you'll probably have Lavenza as your velvet room dancer. While Caroline and Justine are DLC
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>>386003438
Neither. Where is my PMODAN?
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>>386003438
P3.
MC's countless nights at the karaoke and DDR booth will finally pay off.

I'm also mad about how bad is Joker's new outfit.
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>>386003510
>>386003580
Are you faggots just baiting? That is complete nonsense. You're reading to deep into it, the original Persona designs are just more recognizable, and they didn't want to alienate players who didn't finish the social links. They literally said so themselves. This might be the most pedantic shit I've ever witnessed on /v/, and that's saying something.
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>>386003780
>Joker's new outfit
>bad
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>>386003736
Googled it.
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>Marie got to be in P4D
>Labrys didn't
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Where is my devil survivor dancing all week
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The DAN games really do wonders to girls that were supposed to be more slender than the in-game models allowed.
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>>386003886
>red gloves, red shoes, and even a red handkerchief thrown in
I get it Atlus, the color scheme of P5 is red, but Joker looks more like a Buffoon with those clothes.
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>>386003753
Where is Kowashitai DAN!??

We were supposed to outsell and take Persona's place

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR, BROS!!
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>>386004347
Yeah, a stylish buffoon
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>>386004150
that's cuz the answer is garbagio
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>>386004662
Labrys is the one from Arena
Metis is the one from the Answer
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>>386004150
Labrys belongs to the P3 cast.
I still doubt she'll make it here, since the game takes place during their highschool days.
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Which theme do you prefer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIT2P54zAok
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>>386004792
so wait are they going to be one game?
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>>386004784
>>386004739
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>>386005107
That doesn't contradict my statement.

Ultimax story mode has Labrys as the OC P3 member, and Sho as the OC P4 member.
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>>386004662
That's Metis you're thinking of.
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>>386004792
>Dancing on your grave

pretty bold
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>>386005723
>P3DMN is just a reinterpretation of P3 through Dance.
>You have one last dance, expecting everyone to join you like P4DAN
>The song ends before they come.
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>>385986512
Most Japanese companies got super fucked by the move from PS2 to PS3.

But now that PS4/Vita/3DS exist it's easier to develop for them so games are coming out fast again. Not to mention once you have an engine running it's easy to make a sequel.
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>>386005107
Labrys fits with the P3 cast because her persona isn't a Japanese God.
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>>386005796
>song ends with Aegis joining in and starting the dance, pulling you into the pose where door-kun dies in
There's so much cool shit these games could do if they just end up being retellings of the stories of of P3 and P5, as opposed to P4 DAN's cluster fuck of a story
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>>386004792
In general I tend to prefer P3s soundtrack to everything else, but the 5 DSN theme is better than DMN
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>>386005796
I had an idea that, at the end of P3DMN you find out that the whole story of the game was in his head, taking place in the short time between when he closed his eyes and when he died. Just remembering the good times he had with them.
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>>386005107
>>386005972

To go further on this, most Original Personas in Persona 3 (including Labrys) are Greek:
>Orpheus
>Io
>Penthesilea
>Hermes (Trismegistus)
>Medea
>Athena (Palladion)
>Psyche
>Polydeuces
>Castor
>Ariadne
>Asterius
>Cerberus
>Thanatos
>Hypnos
>Nemesis
>Moros

There are a few Exceptions though

>Juno is a Roman Goddess
>Isis is an Egyptian Goddess
>Kala-Nemi is a Hindu God

>Caesar, Artimisia, and Lucia are historical figures, in Greece and Rome

Kala-Nemi is really the odd one out, considering Greek and Roman are pretty similar, and Isis was eventually worshiped in Rome.

Meanwhile all of Persona 4's Personas (including Sho) are Japanese or Japanese historical figures.

Persona 5s are just historical/fictional Thieves for their original Persona and Mythological Tricksters for their Ultimates.
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>>385996315
Gaston is literal best boi, no one at Atlus has written a character that good in years
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>want to finally play persona 3
>nervous they'll announce a remake in the next year or two
>especially now that they have these P3D models

fucking suffering

i'm probably in the clear for now since there was no announcement today but still... i hear lots of shit about tartarus, i figure a remake would make the game more fun, not to mention prettier
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I just want to remind you guys that Atlus made the NES Friday the 13th game
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>>385986512
> but this week they've been announcing spinoffs for an installment that didn't even get its improved edition like nobody's business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tAvOsm_MC4
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