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Reminde that pubg is the best selling in the game in the world

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Reminde that pubg is the best selling in the game in the world because their devs actually listen to the community
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Correction, they listen to their streamers
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Then they add CSGO crates
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>>385984649
>purposefully put in bad mechanics
>players complain
>"fix" them by making them how they should have been
It's so easy
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>literally open Notepad and change a few numbers
>"OMG THE DEVS LISTEN TO US!"
Every time I see this I regret not learning to code sooner so I could make a killing off of the easily satisfied tools out there.
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>>385984649
>removing consequences of actions and tactical decision making
>casualizing the game
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>>385984752
It's a Korean game what else did you expected?
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The only thing I'm waiting for is the first person servers.

3rd person ruins the entire fucking aspect of the game.
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is the stream sniping ban real? is it affecting innocent players?
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>>385985378
I'm waiting for first person servers and more shit like rain.

I barely ever get rain maps anymore and it makes me sad. Rain is the best.
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>>385985378
first person feels like shit on the test servers
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>>385985394
Yes
No.
Anyone telling you the guy was innocent is retarded because the devs actually had proof of the guy leaving games until he got into a popular streamers game.
Now people are pretending the argument was "Is stream sniping bannable"
and the answer is "Devs can ban you for whatever the fuck they feel like, and stream sniping is griefing anyway, no matter how much you claim it isn't, so it's against ToS."
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>>385984649

get raped and die
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>>385985597
>unironically defending people who take a shit at streaming "culture" and bought the game for the full price and enjoy it their way

Yo buddy, what agency do you work for? I want to earn some money from home too. Even if its just a few bucks a day.
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>>385985853
>Leaving proof that you've griefed
>"Wow guys I got banned fucking shit devs"
Wew lad.
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>>385985597
>be playing pubg
>unknowingly kill a stream with 4,000 viewers
>they cry stream snipe
>get banned
wtf I love pubg now
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>>385986557
More like
>Be playing PubG
>Except only when I get into a streamers game, dodge any game with no streamers in it
>Run straight to where said streamer is, and kill him, proving you were doing it with the intention of playing unfairly and ruining his experience
>Devs have you dead to rights because you're retarded and they have a paper trail
>"N-no reason ban!"
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>>385984649
people said the same shit about microsoft after they had to do a fastest 180 in the world due to xb1 backlash on its announcement
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>>385984649
If that's true then how come Titanfall 2 is selling like shit?
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>>385986704
those twitch privileges must be pretty good, huh?
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>>385986220
>open chat "Hey i'm going to 0,0 on the map, I'm going to stand in the open with a machete"
>get shot
>OMG STOP GRIEFING ME ASSHOLE
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>>385986557
There's a difference between deliberately seeking out streamers to kill them and just joining a game randomly and killing a streamer. Pretty sure they can tell the difference between a bunch of retarded children screaming "STREAM SNIPING" and someone who is joining and leaving games until he just happens to join a game with a streamer and that happens to be the game he decides to stick out.
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>>385984649
>go into server
>get banned for playing on the same server as a streamer.
wtf?
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>>385986806
How butthurt were you when the devs blew the fuck out of faggots like you that just concern troll and pretend like you're never wrong?
You must be pretty bum blasted considering you're still pushing the "Guy gets banned for no reason" meme.
Stay shit.
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>play game
>streamer on same team as me
>streamer dies near me
>get banned for not blocking the bullet
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>>385986936
stay cuck'd bro
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>>385986789
Console no
PC yes
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Always listen to your consumers and lower-middle management. They're the ones who are involved. Doesn't matter if any changes you make are small, but if they benefit and make the consumers pleased, you make more money.

You can like or dislike the quality of PUBG, but they are doing exactly what makes money.
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>>385986846
>This is the same type of retard that doesn't understand why the big screen at game tournaments are faced away from the competing teams.
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>>385986704
>>385986894
>be streamer with 4,000 viewers
>subtly get them to harass the devs on twitter till they ban you
>have people defend you on anime message boards for free
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>>385986993
I'm not the one handing mental real estate to PubG and getting FURIOUS when the devs literally did nothing wrong.
Not only were you outraged because of a situation you knew nothing of, when proved wrong you're still mad.
How cucked can you be?
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>>385986936
The equivalent of DINDU NUFFIN IM A GOOD BOY!
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>>385987143
not as cuck'd as you are for defending streamers bro
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>>385987148
That would be the stream sniper you're defending you ass blasted child.
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>>385987028
hey, what do you think you're doing? How are you responding to my posts? Are you some kind of filthy post sniper? I'm gonna get moot to ban you for griefing me, you're not allowed to say mean things to me just because I made a public post that was easily visible.
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>loot crates
i thought we were over dev cocksucking already
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Is this game the most-shilled game on /v/ since borderlands? I've never seen so many threads for a early access survival trash game.
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>>385985506
First person rain maps are immersive as hell

Matching your sprinting with the thunder
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>Stream sniping fiasco
"Yess YAS QUEEN SLAY THIS IS MY CHANCE TO TAKE DOWN THIS AFFRONT TO GAMING, I SHALL STRIKE THEE DOWN!"
>Turns out devs caught the guy red handed stream sniping
"W-well stream sniping isn't a bannable offense, who cares about griefing haha fu-fucking liberals"
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>>385987128
if he could make a case to defend himself then he should be able to easily do it. Most devs are more than willing to listen to you if you have a strong case for why you were unjustly banned. However if they have actual proof that that's what you were doing there isn't a whole lot you can do.
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everyone likes to shit on PUBG but I mean... the devs DO listen to their playerbase
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>>385987235
No I was agreeing with you my dude.
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>>385987413
*streamers
ftfys
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>>385987413
>promise no microtransactions
>patches in microtransactions
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>>385987465
Collateral damage, going to have to play you off as though I hate you anyway because I'm on /v/ so I can never be wrong.
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>>385987490
>money goes toward charity
>m-m-microtransactions!
lol
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>>385987578
faggot
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>>385984649
Pubg is selling because they took the fad one step further.

The people who play these types of games are the type that watch game of thrones and think its a masterpiece.
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>>385987382
>Most devs are more than willing to listen to you if you have a strong case for why you were unjustly banned
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>>385987369
>Turns out devs caught the guy red handed stream sniping
They literally said they can't tell if he was stream sniping dude.
P.S. just because the devs want to coddle their marketers doesn't make the ban right even if he was doing it, if you believe otherwise you should consider removing Playerunknown's cock from your mouth before speaking
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H-how could this happen?!?!?!
Me?!?! Wrong?!?!
Why isn't gaming dead yet!!!!
It had all the red flags!!!!
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>>385987467
I mean the crates you can just get by playing the game I'm assuming? I've never played PUBG but it looks kinda fun and I have a couple of friends that play it and they just gave me a copy of it today. Reading their most recent post it looks like crates are free to open too? What exactly are the microtransactions then?
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>>385987594
That doesn't make them not microtransactions. Nice try though, shill.
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>>385987594
>money goes toward charity
I like PUBG but they still went back on their word. who cares if its for charity?
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>>385987369
>>Turns out devs caught the guy red handed stream sniping
They didn't though.
Also how the fuck can you complain about being griefed on if you are literally showing everyone where you are?
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>>385987708
This.
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>>385984797
>being so cynical, you turn retarded
Going by your logic, I should open a pizza shop where I'll serve kebabs to my customers but call them "pizza". Then, when my customers tell me how to actually make pizza, I'll change it and tell them I listened.
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>A single autist keeps reposting the same thread over and over for his flavor of the month survival shooter
Does this count as spam yet?
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>>385987708
>>385987821
what kind of fucking retarded statement is that
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>>385987746
>They literally said they can't tell if he was stream sniping dude.
>Join game
>Leave
>Join Game
>Leave
>Join game that has streamer in it
>Suddenly play it out, only manage to kill streamer
Garbage like you shouldn't be on the internet, obtain a functioning brain.
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>>385987863
the kind of retarded generalization that people on /v/ will agree with because it's exactly what they wanted to hear
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>>385987834
Terrible analogy. A better one would be to only serve cheese pizza but add toppings after people ask for it.
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>>385984956
>code
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>>385987854
>game achieving unknown heights in steam player counts.

>he thinks only one person out of all of them would post on /v/.

delusional?
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>PUBG is the best selling game in the world
You mean something finally surpassed Tetris?
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>>385987708

Honestly I have this game And I don't get the appeal at all. Get on a plane. Grab a gun. Hide in a corner for 30 mins. Where is the fun, Where is the action.

If i'm going to play a non main stream genre game I at least want to be able to drop in, drop out and have fun. This game is such a time commitment for such boring game-play. Am I getting old, Is this just a new fad. Why can't we have more fun vidya like black sails or to some extent gigantic.
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>>385985597

>Full price
It's a $29.99 game. I know you're a jobless virgin living with parents and you pirate every game you play, but PUBG is half the price of your average garbage "triple A" title.
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>>385987746
Nigger I got banned from Elite Dangerous for this exact reason because some streamers fanbase cried at them when I killed him and I didn't even know there were Elite streamers that had fans. I got a hold of frontier and told them the details of what was going on and they let me off the hook. It was easy as fuck.

Maybe frontier is a better company than Bluehole I don't know.
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>>385987970
Stop spamming /v/ with your flavor of the month survival shooter.
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>>385984956
and animate
and model
and balance
and run servers
and design
and market
and sell
and employ
and manage
and do sound design
and licence engines and third party tools

You know, easy stuff.
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>>385987297
If enough people tell them to put in lightning strikes, and you dodge 100 lightning strikes in a match, do you think they'd put in a unique outfit?
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>>385987879
>know popular streamer is playing pubg
>try to get in his game because I want to test myself against someone whose content I enjoy
>never turn on the stream though
wow what a piece of shit how dare he do this or any other equally plausible explanation what a cheater pls gibe cock streamer-san
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>>385985597
>>385986704
>>385986936
>>385987148
>>385987235
>stream sniping is griefing anyway, no matter how much you claim it isn't
>you were doing it with the intention of playing unfairly and ruining his experience

Stream sniping wouldn't happen without streamers, you have no reasonable expectation to privacy if you choose to stream yourself in a pub game. It's the equivalent of constantly pinging yourself on the map and crying you were griefed because the enemy used the information you were giving them to their advantage.
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>>385988042
It's been like 5 months and its only getting more popular.

I know you don't like video games that are 100% gameplay with no cutscenes, anime waifus, or quicktime events, but chill out.
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>>385988028
That is a very cool story thank you for sharing.
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>>385987931
>>385987863
Easier to call it a retarded generalization because you can't refute it. As expected from nu /v/.
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new map when?
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>>385988143
I bet you peak at the other players screen in split screen games too you faggot.
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>>385988173
dumb dogposter
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>>385988173
Pretty sure people don't like seeing 20+ threads every fucking day for the same game that has a general.
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Listening to the morons on your game's awful subreddit is one of the worst things a game's devs can possibly do.
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>>385988012
So stop hiding in corners?
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>>385988143
>you have no reasonable expectation to privacy
And that's where the devs would tell you you're wrong because you are.
Sorry you're mentally incapable of intellectual honesty because you got BTFO, but stream sniping is griefing, intentionally ruining someone's game because you're too stupid to not cheat isn't the streamers fault.
Expect more games to follow suit because you're a moron that's shit at games.
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>>385988214
I like PUBG but I don't like GoT. there, refuted.
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>>385988173
My dam friend keeps bothering me about this game and I'm probably going to cave in.

Can I mod in anime waifus?
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>Join a server and kill someone
>It was a streamer
>Get banned

Its a good thing I didnt buy this shit
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>>385988028
I used to do this all the time in Elite back when it came out of beta and I never received so much as a warning. I was "sniping" the most popular streamers too. The idea that you should be allowed to broadcast your position without anyone taking advantage of it because you're marketing the game is retarded.
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>the game sold 200 billion units
>they NEED the microtransactions to survive!!!!
>the money goes to a super cool ESL type of events!! SUPER COOL!!

Ey mang, either they sold their 20 million units for 30 bucks, which would result in 600 million fucking korean dollars or they fucking didn't.
How many fucking koreans are working on the game? Half the population of south korea?
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>hourly shill threads from insecure summerfags who got conned into buying yet another early access survival game
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>>385988353
>Stop trying to make money!
Why do you give a shit if you don't intend on buying them? Let people throw more money into it, they're literally going to fund any new content.
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>>385988338
>The idea that you should be allowed to broadcast your position without anyone taking advantage of it because you're marketing the game is retarded.
it is their job after all I mean how are they going to put food on the table if you keep sniping them all the time.
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>>385988338
It wasn't a big deal for a while and honestly the majority of the people who actually play the game and the streamers themselves tend to be really chill even if someone is finding and killing them through their stream. It's their faggot audiences now who brigade against people who kill streamers. It's calmed down recently because some of these streamers will come out and say "quit being faggots it's fine" but it was pretty bad a couple months ago.
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>>385988316
No you can't.

The closest you can get is a school outfit and an asian girl.
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>>385988537
Oh no anon.
No no no no no.
I didn't want to even try this shit until it was optimized
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>put stream on a 5 min delay
>stream sniping solved
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>>385988426
>think its shit
>friends think its shit
>ironically buy it for 2 hour refund

220 hours later i don't regret it
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>>385988537
Eh, I'll take it.
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>>385988537
too bad the graphics , or engine will never look even remotely that good

good luck with your shit show of bad gunplay and RNG loot sim because you know, its too hard to have actual competitive gunplay that isnt slanted and hindered in a gimmicky trivial way
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>>385985597
Streaming is dumb
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>>385988620
yeah but the suckers that donate to streamers want to see their name on the stream in real time, so many will refuse to delay the stream
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>>385988617
They added decent brown too, but I was playing it anyway so whatever.
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>>385988316
Ignore him or simply tell him you're not interested. if he asks why just say you're just not don't give him a reason to call you a hater.

Worked for me and they've stopped bothering me about the game since. They've also stopped playing the game as well like I knew they would.
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>>385988784
Doesn't the stream and the donation feed operate separately, one as an overlay on the other? That shouldn't be a problem.
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>>385988873
it's just the reason I was told when I asked why people couldn't just delay the stream. I don't know the answer to your question because I don't stream or use twitch
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>>385988438
>taking resources and working hours into microtransactions instead of upgrading the game for everyone who bought the game for a full price

On top of that, they said the clothes that will come up next will be camouflaged clothes, in a game where blending with the enviroment gives you an advantage, isn't that a bit unfair towards players who are not buying additional content?

Ah, of course not. After all these poor Koreans with their 600 Million Korean dollars will STARVE and the game development will STAGNATE.
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>>385988247
>split screen peaking even being remotely comparable
People who stream are literally going out of their way to show you where they are you dumbfuck.
>>385988293
>Sorry you're mentally incapable of intellectual honesty because you got BTFO
The fucking irony.

Streamers have nobody to blame but themselves if they willfully choose to broadcast their position without a delay. You can't broadcast your position and every action to the world, including the people in the game you're playing with by naming yourself after the URL to your Twitch channel, and then complain when people take advantage of your stupidity.

Your attempts to deflect the blame from people who willfully choose to broadcast their position by claiming people are cheating is not only stupid, it’s embarrassing and dishonest.

You’re embarrassing and dishonest.
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>>385988669
You know you can refund any time with early access games
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>>385988929
"I was talking out of my ass"
See anon was it that hard.
Real answer: Chat interaction
When you do something and 5 minutes later someone goes "Why/how did you do "That"" and you have no clue what the fuck they're talking about and people don't like that shit.
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>play on the SEA servers
>get like 15 kills
playing against asians is practically cheating, I thought these guys were supposed to be good at video games.
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>>385988829
>people purchase game and enjoy it
>bring some friends along
>play a few hundred hours and have a good time
>eventually stop playing

>this somehow invalidates all the time they spent enjoying themselves according to anon

Entertainment is by nature fleeting. This attitude just robs you of experiences.
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>>385988254
but 5 waifu threads are fine :^)
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>>385988314
Anecdotal evidence does not refute anything. You fail.
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>>385989035
>mouse or dual analog games
>good
Not for another 20 years
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>>385988669
I refunded it because
>controller
support is shit.

Guess I'll wait for the Bone port.
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>>385988948
>Your attempts to deflect the blame from people who willfully choose to broadcast their position
1. You're not on some MLG type shit so being this much of a faggot is entirely on you.
2. FaceIt and ESEA ban people who stream snipe as well so even if you were really competitive you would know that shit is considered cheating to people who aren't trash.
Sit down kid.
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>>385988983
You can even refund it when it comes out of early access.

If the microtransaction shit goes too wild, where people literally can buy ghillie suits and weapons from the get go I will refund it.
And I'm sure it will go down that path.
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>>385988537
HOLY SHIT IS THAT A BATTLE ROYALE SKIN?
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>>385989038
>tfw no bayo mommy gf
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>>385989038
But you know what this also saves you ?
money.
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>>385987834
>food analogy
You're not even trying.
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>>385988873
No, the donation feed is just a webpage that the streamer chromakeys over and puts over their stream, like a layer in photoshop. Delaying the stream would delay donations too, since the donations are part of the stream.
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>>385988293
>intentionally ruining someone's game because you're too stupid to not cheat isn't the streamers fault.
Except it's literally the streamer's fault for exposing themselves. Streamers can add a delay in their feed. A 1 minute delay would deter and even could be used against stream snipers. But nope can't do that because herp derp chat it's cheating cause the devs said you're wrong hurr durr

And you accuse others of being mentally incapable of intellectual honesty? GO suck a dick.
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>>385989128
Patch on the beta servers is the xbox support patch right now.
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>>385989156
Well the entire genre is called Battle Royale so....
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>>385987938
Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
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>>385986936
What's funnier is that the main PUBG guy actually hangs out as a moderator for Grimmmz's streams, i've witnessed it all throughout July before the beef came to reddit
>y'all are just NOW getting redpilled
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>>385989232
well sure but I don't think I've seen someone actually honor the source material in game.
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>>385984649
>/v/ hates normies and normie games
>oh, not PUBG, that's different!
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>>385988459
Their job isn't dependent on winning games. They're entertainers, not professional players.

>>385988514
I don't remember "stream sniping" ever being a big deal in Elite then again I haven't played since Horizion came out.
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>>385989226
>Except it's literally the streamer's fault for exposing themselves.
You
Are
Choosing
To
Watch
Their
Stream
No one is putting a gun to your head, this retarded logic of "The test sheet was on the floor" wouldn't fucking fly anywhere you massive retard.
You have no argument, you're literally just a child having a tantrum because people make money playing games and you don't.
Boo fucking hoo dude, life is unfair and yours is shit, grow up.
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>>385989156
No, it's a homage to Pam from The Office you fucking cunt
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>>385989312
They have the small scythe as a melee weapon that the crazy bitch uses from the movie.
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>>385989031
if you knew, why ask?
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>>385989485
its called a sickle
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Christ it's like Todd himself is behind the game with these fucking threads
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>>385989649
See that stream?
You can snipe it.
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>>385989649
BUY TODD HOWARDS BATTLEGROUNDS

PRE-ORDER THE FUCKING THING NOW
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>>385989649
you'd have to be 100% crazy to beleive not one of these people is willing to start a thread.
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>>385989129
>1. You're not on some MLG type shit
Neither are these streamers whining about being sniped while broadcasting themselves so much as a delay so being this much of a faggot is entirely on them
>2. FaceIt and ESEA ban people who stream snipe as well
No respectable league allows pro players to personally stream themselves without any delay in competitive play outside of a closed environment.

Stream sniping in pub play is considered cheating only to people who are actually trash and believe their entitled to broadcast their position without any of their viewers taking advantage. Take the L kid, you're done.
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>>385985573
its just hacked in right now. they have to redo the viewport animations for crouching etc shit like that, the viewport is just attached to the model right now
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>>385989649
>PUBG passed Fallout 4 in concurrent player records on steam.

Todd must be furious.
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Why is there a delay?
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>>385989965
It was an effort to reduce the gap between Tab-looting and Interact-looting because tab looting is much faster.
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>>385989851
>No respectable league
ESEA Rank S has several streamers.
Are you going to try to "prove" pros don't because they don't stream from the comps on LAN?
Are you this fucking stupid?
>"Wahh wahh I should be able to look the answer sheet is right there"
Well, enjoy your ban moron, you're too stupid to grasp common logic, good thing Player Unknown is showing faggots like you the door, hopefully other games follow suit and you leave the hobby.
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>>385989717
>>385989834
We need a picture of playerunknow
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>>385989376
They are choosing to stream themselves dipshit. The onus is on them to not broadcast themselves or at least add a delay you intellectually dishonest retard.

>You have no argument, you're literally just a child having a tantrum because people make money playing games and you don't.
>Boo fucking hoo dude, life is unfair and yours is shit, grow up.

Nice ad hominem. My life isn't so shit as to spend time defending blatantly unfair nonsense for the sake of streamer's paycheck.
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>>385990047
definitely a fat ginger
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>>385989934
I doubt he even cares. Guy hot his money a long time ago. The fact that FO4 still has that many players online when it's a singleplayer game is surprising, actually.
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>>385990034
Why not always tab loot?
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>>385989228
Well shit, just got my money back. How would I access the beta servers if I were to try again down the line.

I know I'd be shit vs mouse players anyway but I like the game.
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There was a delay on the loot screen? I don't remember that, was it just in a test server or something or did I notice it?
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>>385990094
>The onus is on them to not broadcast themselves
Objectively false since you're choosing to watch them.
Especially since you need to be watching them prior to joining a game in a game like PubG.
Good luck in life though, being as talentless and retarded as you are.
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>>385987382
>This fucking faggot
Holy shit please tell me this is real.
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>>385990189
>controller support is shit

you realize you can use the steam controller configurator on any game, with 360/xbone ps3/4 controller and steam controller right

you can just...make it have controller support even if it doesnt...

of course nobody realizes this...muh evil bad company valve that gives us amazing features nobody uses except those few in the know :^)
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>>385990189
It's straight up in your steam library.

Just family share when the update comes out if you've got a buddy with it.
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>>385990108
apparently it's this guy?
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>>385990192
they just added it today
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>>385987263
I saw 5 threads in the catalog yesterday with the exact same image as the OP.
So yes.
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>>385990164
its more intuitive to press a button
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>>385987594
*After transaction fees and administrative charges.
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>>385990371
So they just removed it too, along with the pickup animation when pressing F? Or is that still there?
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>>385990369
>looks russian
>one of those guys who looks 53 when he's 24

actually, this is more fitting.

I'm conceptualizing a mod for PUBG called BEPISmod that will be based around finding different flavors of BEPIS

BEPIS gives you powerups/powerdowns that all stack, so by the end of the game, a guy is running around farting expanding blue death circles, visibly on fire, and he can only replenish his health by jumping off of high spots that would normally kill him
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>>385990315
You can MAKE any game have controller support, doesn't mean its a good idea.
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>>385990396
the OP's image is a tweet from today, how could people start threads with it yesterday?
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>>385985853
That image is stupid
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>>385990475
the delay in looting with F will be gone, but they likely will still have the animation. You could probably cancel the animation while still getting loot though
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>>385990481
When modding opens up I'll make this.
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>>385990497
in many cases, steam's controller configurator works better than the game's actual controller support.
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>>385990532
your fuckin stupid
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>>385990481
>BEPIS

Joel, fuck off.
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>>385988173
>I-I-IF YOU DONT BUY MY FOTM SURVIVAL SHOOTER THEN YOU HATE VIDEO GAMES
>>>/vg/
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>>385990593
you can help nigga, step off my BEPIS

I want to have like 120 flavors in the end

>Elmer's Glue BEPIS
>You fire all ammo in your magazine at one time

>Licorice BEPIS
>Changes player controls to car controls, still loot and shoot normally, but must "drive" self around like a car
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>>385987594
They deduct all the shit you retards "donate" to them as charitable deductions, so yes it's a microtransaction and they are benefiting from it.
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>>385990043
And how many of those ESEA Rank S players stream themselves during league matches without adding any delay to their broadcast? I'm going to guess none considering even CS tourneys stream with added delay.
Because common logic dictates if you don't show the answer sheet to your opponents if you don't want them to see the answers. But you're such a braindead cretin you honestly think streamers deserve special privileges to invoke bans on people suspected of watching them play a game they willfully chose to stream to those very same people.

You are actually this fucking stupid. Kill yourself moron.
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>>385987594
>we'll never put in microtransactions while we're in EA
>*puts in microtransactions*
>we won't take any of the money from these microtransactions
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>>385990668
how is it FOTM if its been one of the top selling top played steam games since release?
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How many copies of my game did you buy?

I hope atleast 4 copies, for you and three friends.
You want to play in a full squad, yes? Then better buy the game.
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>>385990668
he types with every hyperdimension neptunia game in his library.
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>>385990719
>And how many of those ESEA Rank S players stream themselves during league matches without adding any delay to their broadcast?

people who stream for a living like summit1g will only join teams/tournaments that allow him to stream, and there have been some
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>>385988669
Wow bruh, totally convinced me! Buying three copies for me and my friends!
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>>385990826
>playing squad seriously

wew lad.
Solo/duo is the real version

Squad is a fucking party game.
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>>385990236
They
are
choosing
to
stream
themselves

You dipshit. It's impossible to stream snipe without the streamer choosing to broadcast themselves without a delay. Therfore the onus is on them to either add a delay or stop broadcasting themselves. It's basic common sense, how fucking dense are you?

>Good luck in life though, being as talentless and retarded as you are.
You would know from first hand experience you worthless inept slob.
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>>385990719
>But you're such a braindead cretin you honestly think streamers deserve special privileges

what special privileges are they getting? its against the rules either way
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>>385990940
>r*ddit spacing
you have to go back.
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>>385990889

I wasn't lying anon.

Here's my shame.
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>>385990940
its also impossible to stream snipe if you dont watch a streamer while you play.

therefore the onus is on the players to not do it.

how fucking dense are you?
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>>385990918
Just buy my game.

Buy one in advance, in case you accidentally shoot a streamer so you can switch accounts and keep playing my game.
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>>385985105
a decent game?
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>>385990860
>summit1g
Stop reading there.
He chose to stream without adding delays, he has nobody to blame but himself for being taken advantage of.
Get his dick out of your mouth already.
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>>385987834
>food analogy

Good to know I can discard your opinion entirely.
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I hate this board
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>>385990841
Who?
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>>385991061
what are you talking about? who took advantage of him?

hes streamed his team playing CSGO in tournaments with no issues
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>>385991031
I think this is funny.

But the mental image I have of someone finding these images, saving them, and then ripping off toddposting is kind of sad.
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>>385991025
Eat shit
>>385989376
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>>385984956
Code is not a verb. You can write code or you can encode.
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>someone wants to talk about video games
>discussion immediately involves into bullshit involving Z-list "celebrities" that play the game

so just like real life, now with video games, people don't do anything but talk about what someone else does

What's the new frontier for intelligent people who play games? VR I guess. Anything expensive is always full of more intelligent people, makes sense
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>>385991170
>what is slang

stay in the third world
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>>385987128
only 4k?

why not 24k like dr i have no idea what his fucking name really is?
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Too bad it's a fucking asset-flip. Almost all of the assets were bought from the store. Explains the scaling issues and the massive performance problems.
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>>385989065
Please show me where I said that :)
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>>385991030
>NO U
Not how it works child. Stream sniping is facilitated by streamers who go out of their way to show their position. The onus is on them, you have no reasonable expectation to privacy if you choose to stream yourself in a pub game. Again, basic logic here. Are you really this fucking dense?
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fucking retards paying for virtual clothes.

who /underwear/ here?
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>>385991227
wouldnt assets bought from the unreal store be good and not cause issues?
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>>385991139
reeks of "SINK stupid ship!"

toddposting itself is stupid because i've tremendously enjoyed every game todd has been involved with, i love todd
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>>385989273
Kinda like receiving praise for removing bad game design
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>>385991271
stream sniping is also facilitated by the people watching them.

this is 100% how it works

I play the game, I watch streams, yet I dont stream snipe. How is that possible?
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>>385991207
Heh...nice job fellow hacker...sure showed him...that'll teach him to mess with 4chan...
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so what is the best way to get into games with streamers? i can buy steam accounts with pubg on them for dirty cheap so who gives a shit about bans lol
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>>385991271
what kind of logic is this?

by that logic you should cheat in every game you can. The onus is on them to create sufficient anti cheat tools. its basic logic right?
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>>385991119
summit1g was the "target" of stream sniping that got PUBG players banned. At least try to know what you're talking about before posting.
>hes streamed his team playing CSGO in tournaments with no issues
Because CSGO tourney organizers aren't dumb enough to allow players to stream themselves without a delay.
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>>385991456
win a bunch of games so you are at their MMR and just queue at the same time as them and hope you get in the game
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>>385990950
>what special privileges are they getting?
Try reading the rest of the post.
It's an inane rule that serves no purpose other than to give special protections to streamers aka the major free marketing arm for PUBG
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>>385989416
Don't you fucking give them good ideas. A "The Office" themed avatar set would be awesome.
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>>385991271
>streamer is acting innocently
>sniper is acting maliciously.
>anon is surprised when the developers punish the sniper.

Look, even if I scream "I hate niggers" in the middle of Detroit, the cops are still going to arrest the horde or apes that kill me. They aren't allowed to get away with it because "I could have avoided it".
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>>385989156
WHATS A BATTLE ROYAL, BIG BRO?
IM FUCKING YOUNG AS SHIT AND I DONT UNDERSTAND OLD PEOPLE SHIT FROM 2000, THE YEAR AFTER I WAS BORN!
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>>385991472
shroud was the target of stream sniping, not summit

>Because CSGO tourney organizers aren't dumb enough to allow players to stream themselves without a delay.

but they did, since he streams for a living he only enters to tournaments that allow him to stream it live
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>>385991139
Well this is no fucking joke, you better get going and buy the fucking game.
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>>385991294
No. They are mostly all high poly models that you yourself have to optimize and if you buy this many models from different authors then the scaling will be all fucked up as everybody uses different scale references.
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EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP listen to my PUBG mod idea

>everyone is in a big arena with obstacles
>everyone is blind
>everyone is automatically streaming
>you have to play the game by stream sniping only
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>>385989035

They're only good at games that are extremely static/repetitive, I.E. RTS or LoL.
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>>385989197
>>385991063

not that guy but you guys are fucking morons.

>its like if a pizza shop sold kebabs instead
>its like if a hardware store sold videogames instead

there's no difference, his point still stands. stop parroting the ">le food analogy" reddit meme.
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>>385991028
Why do you even bother? Why waste the effort? If you fuckers loved the games you shilled so much then why don't you fuck off of /v/ and play them? The hours don't matter, still doesn't make your story true.

Also
>People defending a game where the devs ban you for killing e-celebs.
Fucking kill yourselves you living tumors.
I'm sure this game's dedicated subreddit has the community you are looking for, a bunch of brain dead faggots propping up a personality cult surrounding a FOTM early access survival game.
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>>385991705
theres already a game on steam like that

http://store.steampowered.com/app/301970/Screencheat/
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>>385991705
lol
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>>385991760
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/301970/Screencheat/
FUCK
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>>385991758
You're going real fucking hard on me for telling my story anon.

Jesus christ, I just posted a screenshot of my hours.

You attributed a lot of fucking ill will to a random screenshot dude.
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>>385991636
But they didn't. DO you not understand what a delay is?
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It's a damn shame chink moot allows paid marketing on /v/. We have had these 24/7 shill threads for like 3 weeks, yet they are still allowed even though this is very fucking clearly /vg/ territory. I just hope you shills are getting paid well. Having the same thread numerous times a day has to get tiring.
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>>385991636
you don't understand what a stream delay is
stop posting
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>>385991938
Yeah, let me go back to my hourly senran thread after I go post in the /pol/ general.

fucking video games.
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>>385991376
>this is 100% how it works
You forgot the part where streamers are choosing to expose their position. Which is how stream sniping is facilitated.

The onus is on the streamer. You have no reasonable expectation to privacy if you choose to stream yourself in a pub game. People who play the game and never stream without adding a delay to their broadcast don't have any issues being sniped by people watching them.

>>385991603
>>streamer is acting innocently
The streamer looses all pretense of innocence as soon as they choose to stream without any precautions (ie a delay).

Your detroit analogy is fucking abysmal. Murder isn't a proportionate response to someone shouting racial epithets, losing a game on stream to one of your viewers isn't comparbale
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>>385991458
It's basic fucking logic.

If you don't want to get stream snipped, add a delay to your stream. Anti-cheat tools don't exist to compensate for streamers' own ineptitude. You can shove your lazy strawman up your ass.
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>>385992004
Honestly these threads justify it.
If you want /v/ to have shill threads filled with eceleb dickriders then these threads deserve to be filled with nothing but anime and /pol/ shitposting 24/7. Same goes for mobileshit and gatcha threads.
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>>385992158
But it's against the rules, which is literally called cheating
>>
You know that sphere that is created when you're about to throw a grenade to show where it'll land?
The game treats it as a physical object. You can lift cars up by their tires using them.
Yeah.
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>>385989842
How did so many people fall for this shit.

It's all manipulative to make you think you're having fun, but it's just crafted to give you a slow build up to an adrenaline boost with fake high stakes.
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>>385986789
because EA intentionally raped the release date to buy up respawn after the game flopped
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>>385992042
>The streamer looses all pretense of innocence as soon as they choose to stream without any precautions
What. Are you saying the streamer has done something deserving punishment?

>Your detroit analogy is fucking abysmal. Murder isn't a proportionate response to someone shouting racial epithets, losing a game on stream to one of your viewers isn't comparbale

And getting banned from a video game isn't as bad as getting arrested, what a shocker. In both cases a person has done something within their rights. In both cases someone has acted against them with malicious intent. In both cases they receive a just punishment proportional to the crime.

I mean fuck, there are perfectly legitimate arguments against banning stream snipers. Namely, the risk of false positives. Arguing that they are good boys who dindu nuffin, however, is completely retarded.
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>>385992346
>but it's against the rules!
See >>385991579
Also it isn't cheating unless the player is circumventing the delay to figure out your position.
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>>385992158
>If you don't want to get stream snipped, add a delay to your stream.
Yeah bro instead of streaming just make it a youtube video instead.

>Anti-cheat tools don't exist to compensate for streamers' own ineptitude.
This has nothing to do with streamers being inept and everything to do with a bunch of guys being assholes.

I don't even like streamers and I hope everyone that defends stream snipers gets cancer. You wanna support cancer then you deserve to get it.
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AND YOU BETTER BUY THE PS4 AND XBOXONE VERSION TOO

AFTER ALL WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SELL 20 MILLION UNITS
YOU BETTER GET THOSE PRE-ORDERS OUT
AND BUY SOME FOR YOUR FRIENDS TOO
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>>385992772
eek.

this is getting sadder as he spends more effort for it.
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>>385992772
Oy vey
Remember the six million copies sold
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>>385992540
This post doesn't change the fact that it's a rule. I know, it must be hard for your tiny brain to comprehend.
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>>385992507
>Are you saying the streamer has done something deserving punishment?

If the streamer goes out of their way to expose their position in game without adding any delay to their broadcast, streamers can't rightfully complain about people taking advantage and sniping them.

>And getting banned from a video game isn't as bad as getting arrested, what a shocker.

You're just further explaining why your analogy is a false equivalence. Losing access to a video game you paid for because you killed a streamer isn't a propotionate response. Getting arrested for murder is. Hell even the law recognizes the difference between 1st 2nd and 3rd degree murder and hands out punishments accordingly.

There are no legitimate arguments for banning stream snipers in a game like PUBG. Arguing that streamers are good boys who dindu nuffin, is actually fucking retarded.
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>you can now honk the horn
THE GAME IS FUCKING SAVED
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>>385992861
JUSTBUYJUSTBUYJUSTBUYJUSTBUYJUSTBUY
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>>385993048
But it's against the rules, ya dummy. Your entire post is absolutely meaningless because of this one fact.
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>>385987382
this whole post oh my god lmfoa
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>>385992568
>Yeah bro instead of streaming just make it a youtube video instead.
What's wrong with that? Why are you entitled to stream while nobody in your game is allowed to watch? Also there's a huge difference between streaming live with a delay and a VOD. Are you literally retarded?

>This has nothing to do with streamers being inept
It has everything to do with streamers being inept since they choose to broadcast themselves and then get mad when their opponents watch.

>I don't even like streamers and I hope everyone that defends stream snipers gets cancer. You wanna support cancer then you deserve to get it.

I voted for obama but he's a nigger born from kenya. You're not fooling anyone kid.
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>>385993048
>You're just further explaining why your analogy is a false equivalence. Losing access to a video game you paid for because you killed a streamer isn't a propotionate response.

$30 is a perfectly reasonable fine for deliberately acting like an asshole. You must be Brazilian if you think that's a severe punishment.
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>>385984649
Reminder no matter the amount of shilling, people here already made up their minds and won't pay for this
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>>385993191
Yeah I think he doesn't get this.

He's probably also one of those fags that gets mad about "freedom of speech" when someone gets banned for yelling nigger in league of legends or something.
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>>385993032
That post does refute the validity of said rule. The fact that it's a rule doesn't make it a reasonable one, especially when it's a community rule not enforced by the logic of the game itself.

It must be hard for your tiny brain to compehrend but beating someone on stream isn't the equivalent of hacking the game
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>>385987984
no, it's not even close to wii sports
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>>385993191
Not an argument.
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>>385987984
That's minecraft
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>>385993479
It's the rule, nothing in your post changes this fact. It's quite literally that simple.

>>385993549
That's because it's a fact.
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>>385993379
>$30 is a perfectly reasonable fine for deliberately acting like an asshole
No it isn't, especially when you're definition of "acting like an asshole" is so inane it includes things that are 100% preventable by the streamer themselves.

You must be an actual asshole or just mudshit stupid to think streamers have the right not to lose to their viewers and that getting permabaned from the game wholesale is a proportionate response.
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>>385991334
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>>385993673
Still not an argument.
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>>385984716
Is that a bad thing tho, I mean there's way less streamers then people. And they represent types of people. It's like a sorta democracy
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>>385984649
>still no text chat in duos and teams

Why? What's the point of failing to add such a basic feature?
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>>385992382
>make you think you're having fun
I don't even own this game but I always get confused by people who treat "fake fun" as a real thing. Can you give an example of a similar game that has "real" fun, and why it's different than this one?
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>>385987010
you're a stupid faggot. if the community KNEW what it wanted, why don't they just make their own fucking games from the ground up?

fuck this authoritative fucky developer game, first the bans via twitter now the stream sniping garbage and then this "ode" to game development. this game can not sink fast enough into irrelevance
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>>385993673
It's also a fact that the streamer is responsible for getting sniped if If the streamer goes out of their way to expose their position in game without adding any delay to their broadcast. "It's a rule" does not counter this fact, because rules are not infallible. Especially when the rule is flimsy and not constantly enforced.
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>>385993362
>What's wrong with that? Why are you entitled to stream while nobody in your game is allowed to watch?
You're more than welcome to watch. There's a difference between being in the same game as a streamer with their stream on and stream sniping. The fact that you can't differentiate the two shows how obtuse you're being.

>Also there's a huge difference between streaming live with a delay and a VOD. Are you literally retarded?
There's alos a huge difference between live and delay when it comes to interacting with your chat. Are you literally retarded? Did you take that heavy handed sarcasm as literal?

>It has everything to do with streamers being inept since they choose to broadcast themselves and then get mad when their opponents watch.
Again. Has nothing to do with people watching their streams. This has to do with people intentionally trying to get in their games, then intentionally finding where they are, and then intentionally going there/camping outside of where they are with the sole intention of killing the streamer instead of trying to win the game. But I'll let you keep doing mental gymnastics to justify their bull shit.

>I voted for obama but he's a nigger born from kenya. You're not fooling anyone kid.
Pic related. I literally only play when my friends force me to. I'm not going to waste my time watching streamers for a game I hardly even play myself.

The only people that defend stream snipers are people that would stream snipe themselves.
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Night maps when. I know some NEED-TO-WIN faggot will crank the gamma, but it'd still be awesome.
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>>385993779
Absolutely right - it's a fact. Here's another fact: There's nothing you can do to change it and you have no choice but to deal with it.
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>>385993725
>it includes things that are 100% preventable by the streamer themselves.

You just keep backtracking to arguments that have already been disproven. The actions of the victim are completely irrelevant, the only important questions are this:

- Did the player act with malicious intent?
- Can we prove it?

If both of the answers are yes, then it's clear the player deserves -some- sort of punishment. Maybe you are right that a no tolerance ban policy is too strict (I don't know what the developers ended up doing). Arguing that they deserve no punishment whatsoever is arguing against the entire idea of a justice system.
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>>385993379
Yet getting sniped in a game is not reasonable after willfully exposing your position somehow. It's definitely more reasonable to demand everyone else playing the game not watch your stream and not beat you in game instead of simply adding a delay to your stream, by threatening to take their $30 game away.

Yeah seems reasonable.
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>>385989485
Her death in the manga was so over the top even I couldn't deal with ti
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>>385993914
It is a fact that you are responsible for getting team killed if you go out of your way to join the duo or team queue. The rules against team killing are flimsy and not constantly enforced.
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>>385993914
That's like saying it's not against the law for someone to come in and steal your TV if you left your door unlocked. *That* is how stupid you sound right now.
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>>385993914
>>385994157
BTFO
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>>385993995
Still not an argument.
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>>385993887
Something that doesn't just leverage multiplayer play for cheap value.

great single player RPG's that actually engage you like FFXV or MGSV are built with strong stories, cutscenes, and characters.

multiplayer is a garbage concept.
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>>385994116
It is actually very reasonable to expect people not to watch a stream to try and cheat. There is no reason for anyone to be watching a stream and playing at the same time, the in game noises from the stream will fuck you over.
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>>385991443
Autist
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>>385989156

All the new skins are from Battle Royale, pay attention m8
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>>385993812
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>>385994157
>>385994234
It's more like advertising the fact that your door is unlocked to everyone and expecting not to get robbed. *That* is how stupid you sound right now.

Except you're even more stupid because getting robbed isn't a proportionate punishment for simply leaving your door unlocked. And locks can be circumventened meaning you can still be robbed even if you take precautions, whereas it is literally impossible to get stream sniped if you don't stream or just stream with a delay.
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>>385994475
I don't pay attention to the game.

this was a surprise.
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>all this streamer discussion/arguing
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>>385994524
When are you going to realize that streaming with a delay completely ruins the point of streaming in the first place? There's a reason no one streams with a delay. If you haven't figured out why yet then you should really consider offing yourself.
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>>385994157
Yeah because dying in a video game is equivalent to someone trespassing and stealing from you.
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>>385994137
That's objectively false. You're only responsible for getting teamkilled if you instigate by killing your own teammates first. Otherwise you have a reasonable expectation to not be killed by your teammates, whereas you have no resonable expecation to privacy if you're streaming yourself in game. The rules against teamkilling are not flimsy and are consistantly enforced, because the devs can easily prove that you killed your teammates and who shot first by simply looking at in game data without any external factors.
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>>385994528

http://steamcommunity.com/games/578080/announcements/detail/1438189263188767278

Check it out
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>>385994116
It's cheating, plain and simple. It's one thing to get the drop on a streamer, it's another to actively hunt them down using the information from their stream.
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>>385994543
that retard is hung
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I had a pretty intense thing for Sherri and Terri when I was younger. I still kind of do.
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>>385994524
Nah, it'd be more like advertising a garage sale - a perfectly normal and legal thing to do. A criminal sees this as an opportunity to steal something, breaking the law, just as a manchild sees a streamer as an opportunity to grief and break the rules. In both cases, a person knowingly breaks the rules and rightfully would be punished for the fact.
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>>385987594
Oh great, the money goes to people who will feed Africans and ensure they overpopulate the world in the coming decades, thank you very much.
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Stream sniping is the equivalent of screen looking. Please not that everyone born after 1994 probably has no clue what I'm talking about.

>Why are you screen looking bro?
>Why don't you just go get another TV bro I can't help but look
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>>385990745
>le reddit asterisks
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>>385993812
>Streamers are a democracy.
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>No face masks besides the PU bandanna

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385994294
>It is actually very reasonable to expect people not to watch a stream to try and cheat.
IT's not reasonable at all and the fact that you think like this shows how unreasonable you are.

Try running a CS or DOTA2 major while putting a second monitor showing the opponents screen in front of competitors, and then tell us how reasonable it is to expect them not to "cheat". Do you think those cubicle-like barriers between each team exists just for show?
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>>385994768
It's cheating in the same way that killing someone who is constantly pinging themselves on the map is cheating.
The information from their stream is being provided willfully by the streamer with no attempt made to obfuscate it.
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>>385995025
>A major tournament is the same as someone seeking out a target and griefing them

Nice false equivalence, numbnuts.
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>>385995025
You might have a point if these stream snipers weren't literally losing games by joining and instantly leaving when they're not in the game with a streamer. They're not trying to win games. They're simply trying to get their name on the stream and make the streamer epicly mad xd.
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>>385994881
>killing someone in game who is streaming themselves is the same as stealing from a garage sale

You're fucking retarded dude.
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>>385995009
gas mask is being added to the free crate
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>>385995121
>he didn't block my view from his car door to see that it's unlocked, he MADE me steal his wallet by advertising the fact that it was there

People this stupid exist
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>>385995206
Hasn't it always been there? I have it. Unless you mean the half-mask.
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>>385994691
No, you are responsible for getting team killed because there is a way to completely avoid it. Just don't queue for team games. This is 100% preventable by the player themselves. Also, you are wrong, not every team kill gets a ban. Their in game data won't show a player walking in front of a shooting teammate on purpose, to try and bait the teamkill for a ban.

Meanwhile, there will never been an instance of a legitimate player who constantly joins and leaves games over and over (which they track), until they get into a game with a popular streamer. It will be especially easy to track stream snipers once the 2d replay system is out.

I don't understand why people are bitching against his new rule when there is zero chance legitimate players will get banned.
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>>385995195
Not an argument
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>>385995206

You misunderstand. I mean shit like
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>>385994663
When are you going to realize you're not entitled to stream without any expectation of people watching you and using that information to their advantage in game?
>There's a reason no one streams with a delay.
Except for pretty much every tournament and people who are playing competitively. Since, you know, they don't want people using that information against them. If you haven't figured out why yet then you should really consider offing yourself.
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>>385995195
>no argument

You didn't HAVE to walk into this thread, make a shitty argument and get told, but you did anyway, 100% preventable.
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>>385995364

Or
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>>385995356
I wasn't responding to one.
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>>385995364
>Yokai can handle this
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>stream sniping isn't even an issue in other games because of the delay
>pubg games are so slow and stationary that people literally have time to go look at someones stream which is probably 30 seconds behind, run over to their position and kill them
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>>385995491
Not an argument
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>>385995434
I didn't though. You made a shitty argument and got told which is why you're shitposting.
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>>385995276
>equating stream sniping with literal theft

People this stupid exist.
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>>385995579
>continues to rekt himself by providing no argument

Loving every laugh
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>>385995510

>You can stop worrying about grenades now
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>>385995652
>no argument

Like clockwork
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>>385989352
There was a short time after Horizons came out that people (mostly viewers and not the actual streamers themselves) were screeching about it but it's mostly phased out now. I think the biggest reason why I still go back to that game occasionally is because of how chilled out the community is for the most part.
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>>385995746
>SETTING A NEST!!!!!!!
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>>385991207
Detroit is the third world and you should keep your niggerspeak there.
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>>385994691
You have a reasonable expectation to not be killed by your teammates, whereas you have no reasonable expectation to privacy if you're streaming yourself in game. That's the difference you're ignoring for the sake of your retarded shitposting. Also you are wrong, not every team kill is intentional. The devs can easily see if someone is repeatedly killing their teammates intentionally using 100% in game data, without relying on assumptions like someone happens to kill a popular streamer.

There is no way to tell if a legitimate player is getting banned because it relies on the assumption that someone dropping from games and killing a streamer happened to be watching the stream. Again this isn't comparable to teamkilling, because you have reasonable expectation that your team isn't going to kill you.
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>>385995841
>uses slang to call someone a nigger for using slang

So you're a nigger? I don't understand the logic.
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>>385995831

>Setting the welcome mat

Frost best girl

Now I want welcome mats in PUBG
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>>385995812
Your hamfisted greentext analogy isn't an argument.
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>>385995667
The irony.
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>>385984649
It's working now, but listening to the community too much leads to a different problem.
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>>385991061
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>>385995962
meant for >>385995342
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i think the best thing about PUBG is that you faggots aren't playing it
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>>385991735
> food apologism
Neck yourself chef
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>>385993947
>You're more than welcome to watch. There's a difference between being in the same game as a streamer with their stream on and stream sniping.
The difference is not detectable by the devs without reasonable doubt. You're the one being obtuse by conflating the streamer's right to broadcast without being taken advantage of with breaking the rules and cheating

>There's alos a huge difference between live and delay when it comes to interacting with your chat.
And? How the fuck is this relavent? Since when is the streamer's interaction with their chat take precedence over the actual game itself? Why should the game's rules accommodate around the streamer's chat because they don't want to put a simple delay which would completely prevent the sniping issue all together? You have to be literally fucking retarded to think this is a good argument for bans over delays.

>This has to do with people intentionally trying to get in their games, then intentionally finding where they are, and then intentionally going there/camping outside of where they are with the sole intention of killing the streamer instead of trying to win the game
>Has nothing to do with people watching their streams.

The people you just described are the ones watching their streamers. Also the fact that they're going after the streamer instead of trying to win proves it isn't cheating.

>But I'll let you keep doing mental gymnastics to justify their bull shit.
You're using olymipic worthy mental gymnastics to justify banning people because streamers are somehow entitled to broadcast without delay for the sake of chat interaction while expecting nobody watching to use it against them in game.

>Pic related. I literally only play when my friends force me to.
>over 50 hours
Way to defeat your own argument.

The only people that complain about stream snipers are streamers and their fanbase surgically attached to their dicks.
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>>385996210
>being such an autistic faggot that you don't realize most of the time people here are just taking the piss out of things they enjoy

PUBG is probably the most played PC game by /v/ right now ext to overwatch, dota2 and CSGO
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>>385993812
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on /v/, which says a lot
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>>385993812
>there are people that actually think this
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>>385995134
Anon literally said it's very reasonable to expect people not to watch a stream to try and cheat. SO it should be very reasonable for tourney players to have direct access to their opponent's screens and expect them not to watch and try to cheat.

>>385995182
>They're not trying to win games.
SO how is it cheating again?
>They're simply trying to get their name on the stream and make the streamer epicly mad xd.
Why should anyone in the player base care? Nobody but the sniper and the streamer dumb enough to broadcast without a delay are put at a disadvantage.
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>>385995542
>>385995491
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>>385993812
I like how you’re implying streamers aren’t people
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>>385996143
>streamer scum

opinion discarded
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>>385997131
>Why should anyone in the player base care?
Why should anyone in the playerbase care that the stream sniper gets banned then?

You guys sure are triggered and butthurt over some random asshole getting a whopping week ban. Oh no, he might have to go outside now.
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>PUBG players and stream monsters mentally incapable of basic reasoning
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The only people who plays this game are streamers because they're paid to.

You dont see normal people playing this shit because there's way better crafting games out there.
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>>385997673
>crafting

crafting is gay, it's all about the murdering.
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>>385996659
>Since when is the streamer's interaction with their chat take precedence over the actual game itself?

Since PUBG was first streamable. The reason is can take "precedence over the actual game" is that it doesn't actually affect anyone that isn't stream sniping. They have banned stream snipers since the first alpha weekend they let people stream the game. It's been like 10 months since then, 6 million copies of the game have sold, the game is constantly the top streamed game on twitch, streamers are bitching (and probably reporting) every single death as a stream snipe.... and it took this long before someone complained about a false ban. Which then the devs claimed to have evidence that he was actually a stream sniper. It doesn't matter if you believe the devs about the evidence or not. If they were just throwing out bans without evidence, this issue would have shown up the first week.
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>>385986789
Origin
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>>385987594
Paying a tournament is no charity
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>>385994257
just because multiplayer isn't fun for you doesn't mean it's not fun for everyone else
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>>385997456
The player base can potentially get banned for killing streamers since there's no reliable way of knowing for a fact whether he was watching a stream. The entire concept of "stream sniping" is retarded and the bans necessary for something that is entirely preventable by the streamer by simply adding a delay. This is why all the analogies ITT are so retarded, you're still getting robbed and killed in Detroit even if you lock your doors and aren't screaming nigger in the hood.

You guys sure are triggered and butthurt over some asshole entitled streamers losing a whopping game to a viewer. Oh no, he might get laughed at by his retarded chat buttbuddies, what an asshole definitely warrants a ban.
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>>385988052
>game filled to the brim with middleware
>no significant improvement in client performance, server performance just got worse
>even a 1080ti stutters with the game
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>>385997758
>it doesn't actually affect anyone that isn't stream sniping
Except for anyone accused of stream sniping. It's basically a popular streamer's word against a random player's. And if you're a game dev who relies on popular streamers to market the game for you, why wouldn't you side with them? It's in their direct interest to say they have evidence even when they don't.

PUBG streams weren't getting nearly as many views as they do today. You have to be literally retarded to think the game rules should revolve around streamer's ability to chat with their audience without any delay.
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>>385998026
Except there is a reliable way to know if someone was stream sniping. They leave and rejoin queue until they get in the game with the streamer. If the streamer dies before they do, they quit the game immediately to try and get in a game with them again. If the sniper dies, they wait until the streamer is in another game before they queue. This shit is easy to track, and there is no reason a normal player would play this way. They also had 2d replays working back in alpha, and I wouldn't be surprised if the devs had access to them, making it even easier to catch a stream sniper.

There is no chance of a false positive, so the only people this rule affects are steamers and stream snipers. In other words, no reason to care at all.
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>>385998026
>the bans *unnecessary
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>>385998026
>The player base can potentially get banned for killing streamers since there's no reliable way of knowing for a fact whether he was watching a stream.
Player launches game.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game with streamer.
Player stays in game and paths directly to streamer.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game with streamer.
Player stays in game and paths directly to streamer.
Player joins game without streamer.
Player leaves game.
Player joins game with streamer.
Player stays in game and paths directly to streamer.
Not included are the 10-30 minutes he waits between games waiting for the streamer to leave his current game.

Gee, I sure wish there was a reliable way of knowing whether he was stream sniping or not.

>>385998402
Yeah dude. All Summit or any other streamer has to do to get someone banned is say their name in his stream. That's why that one guy that stream sniped Summit all day one day never got banned. You got it right.
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>>385998242
The last major patch was a huge performance increase.
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>>385998470
>There is no chance of a false positive,
This is objectively false. There is no reliable way to know if someone was stream sniping without having precognition or knowing for a fact that they were watching a stream. Just droping in an out of games and killing a streamer isn't sufficent evidence, you can't reliably track whether someone is intentionally trying to queue up with a streamer. THe replays won't show this either.

This rule affects anyone who happens to be unlucky enough to kill a streamer. There's no real reason why the streamer can't simply make precautions by toggling a delay, the chat excuse is asinine.
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>>385984649
Meanwhile you can accuse anyone of stream sniping and get them banned
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>>385998545
t. summit1g dickrider
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But GTAV is the best selling game in the world.

Literally a 4 year old game and it's still in the top5 monthly sellers.
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Can the streamers not put like a stream delay or something? Even league babies werent this fucking retarded
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>>385998767
>Just droping in an out of games and killing a streamer isn't sufficent evidence
This isn't a court of law you fucking autistic retard. It's a video game company that can, and probably would if they knew you said this, ban you for saying nigger. Don't like it? Don't support them. Otherwise, tough titties.

>>385998823
Magnificent counter-argument.
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>>385998767
replay shows that in 5 straight games you go in a direct line exactly to the streamers location, ignoring loot, other players, and the circle

>bbb....but there is no evidence I was sssstream sniping
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>>385998884
most streamers dont have a delay at all
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>>385998545
It's exactly the same as complaining about 'lag', I'm sure it happens sometimes, but a majority of the cases are people getting ass ravaged that they were killed and need to blame anything except them being outplayed to protect their ego.
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>>385984649
Stop making this thread you fucking shills
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>>385999017
most streams have a delay of like 30seconds to one minute and even if they don't have a delay, you almost get instantly into a lobby.
The whole process seems absurd to try to actively do. Not worth banning over simply because it's such a slim shot. Most likely if it ever actually happened, it was because someone was playing on one monitor and watching a stream on another and happened to notice it was the same game (same things happening, kill feed, map, etc.). That's a slight unfair advantage but it's still such a rare event that's ultimately irrelevant and likely no one's intentional fault.
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>>385998932
Where's your argument exactly? You haven't made a single coherent point.
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>>385999015
Is streamers really that bad that they get owned by someone with no loot at all?
And why the fuck does a Dev put so much time and effort to track down and collect data on a single player just because he happened to kill a streamer?

>>385998545
So he spent hours to get into 1game to play with a streamer and got banned because he happened to kill him?
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>>385998932
>This isn't a court of law
That's not an excuse to ignore presumption of nonsense and basic common logic you autistic piece of shit.
>Don't like it? Don't support them. Otherwise, tough titties.
So you can't even argue it's justifiable, you're just defending them for shitposting purposes. GO eat shit then/
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>>385993896
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>>385995510
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>>385999015
If someone manages to get into 5 games with a streamer he deserves to snipe him. It's already hard enough to queue with someone you aren't grouped with in matchmaknig, even moreso if the streamers makes a modicum of effort to obscure his screen while queueing before he spawns on the plane
>b-b-but i can't put a delay i need donation monies from my chat :(
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>>385993896
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>>385999319
Ownership is indeed an excuse to "ignore presumption of nonsense and basic common logic," friend.
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if you dont want people to stream snipe you, then dont stream nigga!

easy as that!
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>>385999673
By that logic if I buy something from your store, you're allowed to shoot me on the spot even if you can't prove I did anything wrong because you own the store?
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>>385999815
No. By that logic I'm allowed to kick you out of my store for the pettiest shit imaginable and you can't do jack shit about it.
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>>385999319
>That's not an excuse to ignore presumption of nonsense and basic common logic you autistic piece of shit.
You're legitimately being purposefully obtuse, aren't you? No one can seriously have this retarded of an opinion.
>You're being arrested for having coke in the car
>What that's not mine you can't arrest me you're being presumptuous you have no proof you just have evidence leading you to suspect me!
Literally kill yourself my dude. Eat a bullet. Do something.

>So you can't even argue it's justifiable, you're just defending them for shitposting purposes. GO eat shit then/
>justifiable
>able to be shown to be right or reasonable; defensible.
Learn what a EULA is. They're well within their rights to ban stream snipers if they want, without any justification to you or to anyone else. Get over it.
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>>385984649
>ban people for different beliefs
>make changes because of stream sniping
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>>385999858
Good luck trying to kick people out of your store for being black.
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>>385999815
>you're allowed to shoot me on the spot even if you can't prove I did anything wrong because you own the store?
Depends on the state's stand-your-ground laws. He's more than welcome to tell you to leave the store and, if you don't, call the police because you're tresspassing.

Is /v/ really full of nothing but 14 year olds who have no idea how the world actually works?
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>>385999858
>By that logic I'm allowed to shoot you out of my store for the pettiest shit imaginable and you can't do jack shit about it.

Makes sense.
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>>385999925
time for FALSE EQUIVILANCY, /v/'s favourite past time
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>>385995000
checked
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>>385999947
>nothing but 14 year olds who have no idea how the world actually works

sums up the PUBG playerbase.
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>>385984716
this

if you play the game and have no twitch channel or less than 20K subs you are a second class citizen
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>>386000037
>lose argument
>scream false equivalency

Anon said he's allowed to kick people out of his store for the pettiest shit imaginable. This includes being black.
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>>385984716
>>386000250
>literally banned one of the biggest streamers on twitch during his stream for friendly fire
>caters to streamers
You guys are trying way too hard to hate streamers because you ain't them. It's like /v/ against youtubers all over again.
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>>386000254
technically you are but people will raise hell

think women exclusive gyms, but the other way around and someone will get mad

you are allowed to be discriminatory on your private property however
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>>385999947
No state's stand-you-ground allows you to shoot someone you've explicitly allowed on your property, especially if they paid you to be there. He's allowed to tell people to leave the store but he doesn't get to take what you've already paid him for.

/v/ is really full of nothing but 14 year olds who have no idea how the world actually works and believe streamers have inaliable rights to stream without getting sniped in game.
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>>386000398
>banned him for 1 day
>said streamer is back to making mad money killing his teammates
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>>386000456
I can literally feel your envy and jealousy through your posts.
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>>385999872
You have to be purposefully obtuse to think presumption of innocence and basic logic are irrealvent outside a court of law while disregarding all the measures that streamers can take to prevent being stream sniped because their chat is so important that they should broadcast their position in real time and not expect anyone to take advantage of it. No one can seriously have this retarded of an opinion.

EULA have never been a magical key to illegality. If I put in blatantly illegal language in a TOS, the entire document is invalid. Even if it is not, it is up to a judge to decide if it's enforceable at all.
Consumer laws still exist, and vary by state and country.

>greentext analogy
Literally take your own advice and off yourself for being this retarded to think your false equivalency was even remotely legitimate.
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>>385992568
>>385993947

I'm glad when streamers get sniped - Everytime one of you kids gets angry I gain energy. Please. Please cry some more.
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>>386000420
>technically you are
Anti discrimination laws say otherwise, at least here in the US. It's illegal to kick people out of your store based on their race or sexual preference. If your "private property" is your home you can discriminate all you want, but as soon as you turn it into a business (see:AirBnB) the rules change.
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>microtransactions
>in Early Access

It's amazing and frightening how much /v/ supports this shit.
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>>386000794
Right so I suppose the laws are different for say a gentleman's club vs a store front
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>>386000398
>>386000603
This is like saying your envious of whores
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>Broadcast yourself playing a game to thousands of people
>Get mad when somebody playing the game watches you to kill you
If you don't want to get "stream sniped" then don't stream, or make your twitch private, or whatever.
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>>386001102
>YOUR JUST JEALOUS I GET PAID TO BE A KID
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>>386000398
>t. twitchwhore
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>>385984649
does this mean dark souls is wrong for having a pickup animation?
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>>385999872
>he doesn't know the difference between an arrest and a conviction

What a dumbass
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>>386000661
>presumption of innocence and basic logic are irrealvent outside a court of law
Yeah and basic logic is on the side of the PUBG team. We've been over this whole staying in streamer games and disconnected when not in streamer games. Basic logic should be telling you that the guy is stream sniping but you don't exactly have a fully functioning mind.

>while disregarding all the measures that streamers can take to prevent being stream sniped
No one is disregarding them. People who think rationally and logically would say that the streamers shouldn't have to use delays and overlays because, one would hope, others wouldn't be so immature to stream snipe. But alas, there are people that immature and their defenders.

>their chat is so important
their job*

>because their chat is so important that they should broadcast their position in real time and not expect anyone to take advantage of it.
Again, no one is taking advantage of it. They're not trying to win the game. They're solely out to kill the streamer.

>EULA have never been a magical key to illegality.
Right. It's not like people have tried before with World of Warcraft bans.

>If I put in blatantly illegal language in a TOS, the entire document is invalid.
No fucking shit you fucking retard. But putting the ability to ban you from their video game is not illegal. Holy shit you are legitimately retarded.

>Even if it is not, it is up to a judge to decide if it's enforceable at all.
Yeah man. Have fun taking a company that's just made millions of dollars to court. I'm sure you'll come out on top.

>Consumer laws still exist, and vary by state and country.
Again, have fun taking them to court.

>your false equivalency was even remotely legitimate.
More legitimate than anything you've said in this entire thread. You're caught up in your feelings. The fact of the matter is that the devs reserve every right to ban you from their game and you've got your panties in a bunch over it.
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>>386001391
why don't the steamers use the knowledge of stream sniping to bait snipers instead of just crying like a little bitch when they get killed from advertising their strategy?
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>>385988127
Thats the thing - the faggot claimed initially that not only did he never hear of the streamer, but that he hadn't watched twitch for years.
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>>386001391
>>their chat is so important
>their job*

Oh fuck off. It's not part of their job to stream PUBG in real time without any delay, their job isn't dependent on winning in PUBG matchmaking. They're entertainers not competitive PUBG pros FFS.
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>>385993812
I really hope you reread that post and thought about exactly why it's so stupid.
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>>385991908
That's because his a faggot that's gone down the rabbit hole of "THIS GAME THAT CAME OUT FIVE MONTHS AGO IS A FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH TITLE THAT WONT LAST LONGER THEN A MONTH" so he literally won't allow himself to ever admit that he is wrong until the discussion eventually stops on whether it will survive to, what will be the next game to kill it.
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>>386001947
>They're entertainers not competitive PUBG pros FFS.
Which is exactly why they stream with no delay. Because real-time interaction will ALWAYS be more entertaining and having a delay. Glad you finally understand.
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>>386001391
I feel like you are missing the point - it's WHY people are being banned that has pissed off so many people - not just the bannings themselves.

People hate streamers - and rightly so. Everyone hates when the wealthy moves in on their favourite hobby and turns it into a circus show for petty money. The only ones who don't are the wealthy themselves.
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>>386001391
>People who think rationally and logically would say that the streamers shouldn't have to use delays and overlays because, one would hope, others wouldn't be so immature to stream snipe. But alas, there are people that immature and their defenders.
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Is it fun playing solo, or do you need to find autists to form a group with to get the most enjoyment?
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>>386001506
They are generally bad at the games they play and need handicaps enforced in order to effectively assert control over what their audience is watching. No one subs to people that just get their ass kicked all day.

Kids want to watch "video game badasses" and for streamers that tends to involve cheesing their way to the "top" I always thought being the "top" in a video game was unverifiable trash goal
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>All this praise for a game still in heavy development
Why are people praising them for simply developing the game? Praise the devs for the improvements after it releases.
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Who watches streamers? When I had infinite time high school I watched the occasional video game flash on Newgrounds or scrolled through YouTube but I never actively sat there and watched another ugly dumbass play a game. The concept baffles me. I could understand some very select skilled and highly charismatic people being able to attract an audience, but I'm seeing streamers left and right and some of these guys are just dumpy fucks like me who couldn't be more clearly doing it for the money with sirens going off when these children somehow have $50 at a time to """donate""". At least the camwhores aren't a mystery, but low skill male streamers exist in huge numbers with decent followings. Then I come to /v/ AND YOU ASSHOLES ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE THEY'RE FUCKING POLITICANS OR CELEBRITIES.

Why aren't you just spending your time watching streamers playing the game? Occasionally tuning it to certain streams for gameplay tips, maybe. But you can get the same information in a condensed form from Youtube videos. But no, you guys actually somehow know all about Xtremekid53 from Twitch and how his girlfriend just broke up with him and how he's been depressed lately and that he flunked out of college and blah blah blah. You guys actually have brain cells dedicated to remembering that shit, why? Who the fuck watches streamers? Literally any other activity, including the fucking pointless activity of consuming video game media, is hundreds of times more worthwhile than sitting there watching some fucking nobody play a video game with the same skill level you can. I want answers.
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>>386002491
Shills/ its summer/ etc. it's also heavily HEAVILY shilled at Giantbomb and they have a cult over there.
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>>386002149
>Which is exactly why they stream with no delay.
And why they have no legitimate reason to complain about stream sniping. Because if getting sniped by their viewers REALLY mattered that much, they would simply add a delay. Glad you finally understand.
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>>386002267
Adding a delay ruins a streamer's ability to interact with their chat, one of the core features of streaming. Stream sniping is gives you an advantage over other players in the game that they don't have. That's called cheating.
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>>386002491
Because people like the game
wow what a concept
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>>386002520

Underage b&s who don't know what real friends are and think paying $5 for some random faggot on the internet to give them a "shout-out" is friendship.

The only use of an LP is to see what a game plays like since the industry realized they can't sell pieces of shit as well if they have a demo that showcases how awful the game actually is once you're past all the marketing shills and CGI cinematic trailers not representative of in-game play.
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>>385993812
Jesus, at least call it a Republic if you're going that far. You were almost imitating a form of intelligence there.
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>>386001391
>More legitimate than anything you've said in this entire thread.
Not really. You compared stream sniping to smuggling coke in your car. You have a dysfunctional, broken mind and are caught up in your dicklust for streamers
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>>386002520
why don't you go ask a streamer's chat
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>>386002608
It's an advantage over the streamer that the streamer willfully chooses to give to players. If the ability to interact with your chat by broadcasting your position in-game, in real time, is more important than adding a delay, you can't expect never to get stream sniped

>>386002485
Streamers basically want to have their cake and eat it too, to the point where the actual rules of the game have to accommodate them. Streamfags won't admit this though because they want to complain about """cheating"""
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>>385993812
>there are a lot of people replying to that silly monhun/ds bait

The retardest post of 2017 so far isn't
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>>386002608
>Stream sniping is gives you an advantage over other players in the game that they don't have.
>>386001102
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Should I buy this or is this a meme game that will die in a few months?
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>>386002586
>And why they have no legitimate reason to complain about stream sniping
People have a reason to complain about everything. A guy with a 14 inch cock has the right to complain about it. Your personal feelings doesn't mean people lose the right to complain, bitch, and moan. Get over yourself faggot.

>Because if getting sniped by their viewers REALLY mattered that much, they would simply add a delay.
Clearly it doesn't because they never added a delay. Good job working that out bud.

You faggots sure do have a hard on for blaming streamers for a dev team's actions. I really don't get how you're this fucking stupid. Oh sorry I forgot, the streamers run the company.

>>386002660
>Underage b&s who don't know what real friends are and think paying $5 for some random faggot on the internet to give them a "shout-out" is friendship.
Or people that have real jobs where they really don't do jack shit all day but sit in front of a computer and want something to entertain themselves with while they try not to blow their brains out from boredom. Watching streams is completely and totally free m8. There's no subscription or donation service unless you choose to do so. The majority of people on twitch don't do either.

The more you know.

>>386002847
>You compared stream sniping to smuggling coke in your car.
Yes that was a legitimate comparison and not a hyperbolic comparison to show how stupid your presumption of "nonsense", I'm assuming that's an auto-corrected innocence, was in terms of a fucking video game ban. This is heavy handed sarcasm by the way. I don't literally mean it was a legitimate comparison. Hope a further explanation helps you.
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>>386003064
>they asked for it
That's the same argument used by rape apologists
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>>386003238

You have to be immature as fuck to think your ability to interact with your chat is so important that the devs should cater to you and ban players on the suspicion of stream sniping beacuse you're simply too lazy and entitled to add a delay or take any preventive measure to avoid the problem.
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>>386003238
>Watching streams is completely and totally free m8. There's no subscription or donation service unless you choose to do so. The majority of people on twitch don't do either.
You realize that literally any other activity would be a better use of your time right? Like playing the video game you're fucking watching, or watching something meant to be watched like a movie or TV show. You're watching one of the most inane drivel on the internet.
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>>386003238
Fuck off streamer, What do you want?

>A game where every single behavior is monitored and has to follow strict, rigid rules. Any little, minor deviation from the rules will get you instaban no matter what you have explained. Always treats the more popular and well-known players softer than any player, creating a social ladder within the game.

>A game that has respectable rules like all current multiplayer games. Everyone is treated the equal, regardless of their social rank they get the same treatment as any other player does.

What do you fucking choose?
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>>386003267
>rape analogy

like clockwork
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>>386003407
>all streams are the same
I really feel like you faggots looked at the Twitch front page for ten minutes and then decided every single streamer out there is shit.
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>>386003339
You have to be immature as fuck to think your ability to streamsnipe is so important that you should tell the devs who they should and shouldn't ban
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>>386003513
>all streams are the same
>quoting absolutely nothing that was even remotely said or implied in my post
I really fee like stream watching faggots like you should finish high school before posting here.
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>>386003584
You have to be immature as fuck to think your ability to interact with your chat is so important that you should tell the devs who they should and shouldn't ban
People's ability to stream snipe is 100% dependent on the streamer you braindead fuck.
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>>386003596
You're massively generalising, which is basically the same as saying it's all the same.

I'm not gonna get into a bitch fight with you 'cuz I really don't care, but you should try browsing smaller streamers covering games you're interested in.
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>listening to your players

Don't make the mistake Bungie and Blizzard make, players are retarded and don't actually know what they want.

What's important is acknowledging feedback.
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>>386003339
Where did I say anything of the sort? I've watched the VoD of summit and shroud from this whole clusterfuck of a mess. I don't recall either of them asking for those guys to get banned. They bitched and moaned about being stream sniped and then moved on to the next game. A completely normal reaction to getting killed in a video game.

>>386003407
Yeah lemme play video games at work on my computer from 2008.
>or watching something meant to be watched like a movie or TV show.
There's only so much to watch on Netflix.

>>386003443
You realize that first option is incredibly hyperbolic right? How about a game with set rules such as no obvious stream sniping by trying for hours and hours to get into a streamers game to stream snipe them? You can literally have a stream open, be in their game, and not stream snipe. Stream sniping is obvious enough to get banned over like that one kid did.
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>>386003737
Devs like it when streamers play their game because it's free advertisement. Who are they listen to, people shilling their game or some random shitter who can't win without stream sniping? Streaming only helps a game while stream sniping does nothing for it besides chase out streamers.
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>>386003737
You have to be immature as fuck to think your ability to streamsnipe is so important that you should tell the devs who they should and shouldn't ban
Deciding to stream snipe is 100% dependent on the stream sniper you braindead fuck
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>>386003238
>Your personal feelings doesn't mean people lose the right to complain, bitch, and moan. Get over yourself faggot.
The irony is palpable. You and the streamers believe you have the right to complain, bitch, and moan that you're entitled to having players banned for something that is completely preventable by the streamers themselves. You faggots literally cannot get over yourselves.

>You faggots sure do have a hard on for blaming streamers for a dev team's actions. I really don't get how you're this fucking stupid. Oh sorry I forgot, the streamers run the company.

Yep because the streamers definetely aren't to blame for influencing the devs banning suspected stream sniping by whining about getting stream sniped. Streamers are innocent here, totally.

I really don't get how you're this fucking stupid. The fact that you think the left side of your image represents you is fucking hilarious.
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>>386003919
>Yeah lemme play video games at work on my computer from 2008.
Nigger you're at work, you're watching streams at work? People pay you to do that? Are you a toll booth operator or something retarded like that? You can't have a real job.
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>>386003986
I mean, you should be able to kill who you wish in an FPS without consequences. The fact that streamers think they deserve some sort of developer shield is entitlement at it's core
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>>386003986
Stop arguing with people with IQ's under 85, it's impossible to convince them. Stream sniping is against their rules and they will ban for it. Let the kids cry with impotent rage.
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>>386003986
>Deciding to stream snipe is 100% dependent on the stream sniper
They literally cannot decide to stream snipe if the streamer doesn't choose to broadcast their position in real time.
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>>386004171
Back in the day when split screen multiplayer was a thing, were you the type of faggot that would look at look at your friend's side of the screen?
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>>386004031
>streamers control videogames
jesus fucking christ
>>>/x/
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>>385994856
I'm pretty sure they all are. They're also horny as shit. Kinda reminds of something...
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>>386003919
>They bitched and moaned about being stream sniped
>A completely normal reaction to getting killed in a video game.
If you're a streaming shitter maybe.
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JUST
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>>386004031
>You and the streamers believe you have the right to complain, bitch, and moan that you're entitled to having players banned for something that is completely preventable by the streamers themselves.
You're still presuming that the streamer is guilty of getting those players banned when all they did was bitch about them. For the umpteenth time, the devs banned the players. The streamer played the game, got stream sniped, got mad and complained.

>Yep because the streamers definetely aren't to blame for influencing the devs banning suspected stream sniping by whining about getting stream sniped.
Which they're entitled to do you fucking ape. Those players wouldn't be banned if they didn't stream snipe. If the stream snipers didn't want to get banned then they wouldn't stream snipe. No one is forcing them to stream snipe. It's 100% their fault. Just like it's the streamers fault for not putting up a delay right?

Go fuck yourself retard.
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>>386004369
>minimal settings
>JUST
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>>386003919
>You realize that first option is incredibly hyperbolic right?
Not really. It's pretty much the reality of whats happening with pubg. If you're a popular streamer you have special privileges to invoke bans on players who killed you without concrete evidence. If you're not a popular streamer or don't stream at all you're basically a second-class citizen in the eyes of the devs.

You can literally have a stream open, be in their game, and not stream snipe, But if you kill them you're guilty of stream sniping and dserve to be banned.

Why does it warrant a ban when its incredibly difficultt do and entirely preventable by the streamer?
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>>385993812
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https://youtu.be/VqCu94FpK00

I think that all of you, arguing one way or the other, are a little too triggered over video games and need to go outside.
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>>386004252
You literally cannot get mugged if you don't go outside. Is it your fault if you get mugged on the way to the store?
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>>385985597
>"proof that he streamsniped"
>"actual no proof that the streamsniped"
>"PUBG-dev literally doesn't understand why people play with streamers"
the only proof the PUBG-dev showed was how disconnected he was with his main-target-audience
he literally said:
>"the main reason people play with popular streamers is because they want to streamsnipe them"
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>>386003927
>Who are they listen to, people shilling their game or some random shitter who can't win without stream sniping?
The people who are shilling their game are shitters who can't win without blaming stream snipers >>386001506
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>>386004281
>He thinks its equivalent.

I genuinely happy every time someone's stream is ruined. Good riddance
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>>386004390
>You're still presuming that the streamer is guilty of getting those players banned when all they did was bitch about them.

Are you literally retarded? No seriously.

>they're entitled to [try and get players who killed them banned] you fucking ape. Those players wouldn't be banned if they didn't stream snipe. If the stream snipers didn't want to get banned then they wouldn't stream snipe. No one is forcing them to stream snipe. It's 100% their fault.

Yep you're definitely retarded.
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>>386004818
At least you admit that you're just assblasted about streamers
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>>386004669
If I openly announce for everyone to see and hear that I'm going to the store with loads of cash in my pockets then YES
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>>386002608
>Adding a delay ruins a streamer's ability to interact with their chat, one of the core features of streaming.

that's bullshit. there's guys that stream themselves playing online poker with a delay and nobody is crying about that.

stream-sniping isn't cheating because the streamer broadcast their location publicly and willingly.
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>>386004637
Was his head always that big? It looks like it's going to pop.
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>>386004669
You're saying that streamers adding a delay to their broadcast or not streaming at all if they don't want to get stream sniped is just as reasonable as telling people to stay at home if they don't want to get mugged.


Are all PUBG fans this retarded?
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>>386004906
>[try and get players who killed them banned]
Good thing the whole thing was literally streamed. How about you show me proof that the streamers are trying to get people banned?

I won't hold my breath :^)
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>>386004958
Not all streams are the same. Some rely on chat interaction more than others.
Sniping is cheating because it's an unfair advantage that not everyone in the game has or even knows about
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>>386004463
>JUST

JUST
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>>386004307
>herp derp conspiracy meme!

Your image makes no sense, it's a scenario that actually happening. What else do you call rules specifically designed to accommodate the streamers ability to broadcast their location in real time which naturally gives everyone watching in the same server an advantage against the streamer?
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>>386005054
>I have no idea how or why streaming works
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>>386004390
>If the stream snipers didn't want to get banned then they wouldn't stream snipe. No one is forcing them to stream snipe. It's 100% their fault.

Imagine being so fucking stupid you think streamers have no responsibility for streaming themselves and having their viewers try to find them in game
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>>386005096
>streamers complain about stream snipers ruining the game for them
>refuse to add a delay or not stream their location
>How about you show me proof that the streamers are trying to get people banned?

I really wish you would hold your breath, one less retard on the planet to deal with.
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>>386005125
There are some bad textures in the game for sure, but that looks like it had not loaded in yet. I can take a picture of my settings on minimum to prove absolutely nothing as well.
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>>385984649
Does this game run well? How demanding is it graphically?
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>>386005321
Imagine being so fucking stupid you think stream snipers have no responsibility for stream sniping and getting themselves banned. Better blame the streamer for my actions! :^)

>>386005415
Still waiting on that evidence there mate. You're so sure that streamers are getting people banned left and right so surely you have some proof.
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>>386005415
>I really wish you would hold your breath, one less retard on the planet to deal with.
Isn't it impossible to kill yourself that way? Your body physically doesn't let you suffocate yourself like that past a certain point right?
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>>386005294
>implies adding a delay to your stream as to deter people sniping you is the same as saying you shouldn't go outside if you don't want to get mugged

>accusers others of not understanding how or why streaming works
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>>385993896
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>>386005504
Be careful anon. That is one rabid retard.
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>>385984649
streamer early access meme game also pushed as esports despite rng LOL
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>>386004463
>posting a worthless picture
>JUST
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>>386005415
>literally admit yourself streamers complain about stream snipers ruining the game for them
>hurr where's your evidence streamers are getting snipers banned show me proof

Kill yourself retard
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>>386005180
The rules that the developer made because they're the developer and they can do WHATEVER THE FUCK they want with their game, including fellating streamers.

Fuck off with your fake outrage and grandiose claims. There's literally nothing to discuss here.
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>>385984649
What even is this game? Everyone fucking plays it, it's like a new COD or something?
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>>385993812
>>>385984716
And they represent types of people. It's like a sorta democracy

Who in the name of fuck do they represent?
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dont tk or u get baned butthead >:( very srs game
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>>386005504
I wonder. If you're being tortured and the pain is unbearable, would your body still prevent you from trying to stop the pain?
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>>386005294
>hearing "whoa thanks for the donation XxSephirothFaggotxX xD" 30 seconds late literally ruins the stream there's no point in watching it :(
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>>386005649
meant for >>386005502
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>>386005649
Can't even @ right retard.

Complaining about people =/= getting them banned. Nice try though. Still waiting on that hard evidence you have locked away.
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>>386005673
pretty much
extremely entry level game overall
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>>386005691
people who watch them
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>>385984649
haha look some normie is trying to shill pubg
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>>386005702
>That 30 second delay will totally stop stream sniping it's not like you spend several minutes in the same general area looting
Try harder guys
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>>386005653
>The rules that the developer made because they're the developer and they can do WHATEVER THE FUCK they want with their game

Appeal to authority is a fallacy. The developers are not infallible.

By your logic no game can ever be criticized because the devs can do no wrong. Literally No Criticism Allowed

Nobody is making grandiose claims except for you faggots. Fuck off with your damage control, you have nothing to add to the discussion.
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>>386005857
They're not infallible, they're in charge. They've made a decision. No amount of bitching and whining from you will change it. Why the fuck are you here ranting about this? Send them a fucking tweet or something.
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>>386005857
>>386005653
btfo kid lol
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>>386005536
Many streamers built their brand on interacting with their chat in real time, reacting to things in game or responding to people directly from chat. Maybe you don't see it, but the appeal is being able to personally interact with a personality, as dumb as you think it is. A delay puts distance between the streamer and his viewers, which is completely contrary to the brand the stream was built on. There's a reason a lot of streamers refer to things their actions as "we".
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>>386005054
Honestly people who bitch about being streamsniped deserve it

Like.. honestly.. if it's so bad just fucking add delay to your stream or dont do it at all. No one in the world knows you delay your shit by 1 minute. We arent in the same room.

God damn its so stupid

>>386005294
OBS must be unheard of for you dumbass
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>>386005838
It would massively deter stream sniping unless the streamer is constantly camping. It's already pretty difficult to queue with and snipe a streamer even without a delay.
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>>386005759
>popular streamers complaining about specific people killing them in game =/= getting them banned.

Literally retarded
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>>386005950
>>386005953
In other words they're infallible. Literally no criticism allowed

>No amount of bitching and whining from you will change it.

You were saying?
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>>386006051
>Some guy named apex stream sniped summit and shroud multiple times one day
>They called him out for it on stream multiple times
>Apex wasn't banned
Yep. Looks like streamers aren't getting people banned.

>>386005968
>It would massively deter stream sniping
>unless the streamer is constantly camping.
You mean like how you spend 5 minutes at the start of every game looting giving stream snipers 4:30 to move to their position and camp/snipe them? Hmmmm.
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>>386006205
I was saying you btfo'd him
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>>386006205
So they DID hear the criticism and ARE making changes, and you're still in here on some crusade?

Why?

And you still don't understand my initial point. The devs are not infallible, they are not above criticism. They simply have absolutely zero obligation to follow any of it. They can do what they want, which is what I mean when I say that there's nothing to talk about.
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>>386005958
>Many streamers built their brand on interacting with their chat in real time
How is that so important that the rules of the game have to change to accommodate their brand?

How does getting stream sniped affect their ability to entertain people and be a personality on stream?

How is not being able to respond to viewer messages instantaneously even comparable to getting mugged on the street?
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>>386006494
>How does getting stream sniped affect their ability to entertain people and be a personality on stream?
>How does their ability to play games affect their ability to play games?
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>>386006447
I'm not on any crusade. I'm simply posting in a discussion about how stupid this whole thing is, while you're responding like a little bitch and saying "they're the developer and they can do WHATEVER THE FUCK they want fuck off with your fake outrage nothing you say matters". Even though you're clearly fucking wrong.

>The devs are not infallible, they are not above criticism. They simply have absolutely zero obligation to follow any of it. They can do what they want, which is what I mean when I say that there's nothing to talk about.

In other words they're infallible.
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>>386006658
That's right, nothing you say matters. You finally get my very simple mesage through your thick skull after the third fucking attempt. You should shut up, sit down, and get off the fucking internet.

What the fuck is wrong with newfags nowadays honestly.
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>>386006572
Not him but I don't really understand the point of all this. I would actually expect the chumps that watch streams to be entertained by the guy getting stream sniped. These people love to see others fail and complain, it's the reason anyone watches DSP for example.
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>>386006572
What's more important? Their ability to broadcast their location in real time in order to build their brand, or their ability to "play the game" ie never lose in game their own viewers because they were broadcasting their location in real time

Can't have it both ways.
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>>386006756
Not an argument. Also you were proven wrong, what people do say matters. Only a newfag would jump into a thread to shitpost "NOTHING YOU SAY MATTERS THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS HERE THE DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT" like a petulant shitstained child.

Take the L and sit down kid.
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>>386006494
>How is that so important that the rules of the game have to change to accommodate their brand?
It's not to accommodate their brand, it's to make sure everyone is on an equal playing field. Stream sniping is functionally the same as screen peeking.

>How does getting stream sniped affect their ability to entertain people and be a personality on stream?
>>386006572

>How is not being able to respond to viewer messages instantaneously even comparable to getting mugged on the street?
It's not, but that's not what I'm saying. Maybe get your reading comprehension past the middle school level.
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>>386006779
Watching someone fuck up a grenade throw and kill themselves is entertaining. Watching someone wreck their car in a funny way is entertaining. Watching someone turn a corner and get mowed down is not. Don't know how this is a question.

>>386006808
The former. And "losing" the game isn't the issue. It's losing your ability to be entertaining because someone else has insecurity issues.
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>>386007129
>Watching someone turn a corner and get mowed down is not
You just described like 90% of PUBG's gameplay. This happens constantly even without stream sniping.
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>>386006936
It is to accommodate their brand, since according to anon their brand is dependent on their the ability to broadcast their location in real time. Streamers lose the right to an equal playing field as soon as they willfully choose to broadcast their location to other players in real time. Screen peeking isn't equivalent since the other player has no reasonable way to prevent you from peeking, whereas the streamer can easily not stream or just add a delay.

>It's not, but that's not what I'm saying. Maybe get your reading comprehension past the middle school level.
If you had been following the linked replies you'd realize i was specificalyl responding to this analogy made earlier in this chain >>386004637
Maybe work on your own reading comprehension past pre-k level.
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>>385985506
I wonder if the desert map will have dust storms.
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>>386007129
Did it ever occur to you that videgames don't exist for streamers to entertain their audience with, but to entertain the actual players of the game?

Losing the game is the entire issue. Because that's literally the sole consequence of getting sniped on stream. Your ability to be entertaining shouldn't depend on not dying in game. This whole issue could be entirely avoided if streamers took basic measures which would make it practically impossible to ever happen again. Because at this point you're basically saying streamers should be entitled to have the devs make the game easier for them so they can be more entertaining.
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>>386006272
>some streamer complained about a guy sniping him
>he didn't get banned
>therefore streamers complaining about stream snipers have nothing to do with other stream snipers getting banned

Yep. Looks like you're retarded!
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>>386006272
>You mean like how you spend 5 minutes at the start of every game looting giving stream snipers 4:30 to move to their position and camp/snipe them
That's already incredibly hard to do even without a delay.
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>>385988798
>>385988537
This game might have a potential.
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>>385994934
Getting a whole another TV and console is literally no different than not going out of your way to stream yourself or just adding a delay.
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