>GameStop’s stores will be open on Thanksgiving Day this

People who eat dinner with their families then realize they hate them so they go shopping afterwards.

>>385945871
Just more proof America is the worst third world country

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>>385945871
>like who the fuck seriously goes shopping on thanksgiving anyway
Retail shitter here. More than you think. Doesn't help that the last store that I was at started their black firday deals Thanksgiving afternoon.

I'm sure lots of people might go shopping on Thanksgiving for stuff they need to prepare for dinner.
I'm not so sure people are shopping for fucking video games though

Eh I hate my family so I'll be working it.

>>385945871
More proof that America is a third world country

>niggers and white trash don't want to make extra money
>muh family dinner
fuck off

>>385945871
There are lots of restaurants that do christmas dinners.

Not a word about that in the news..

The worse kind of human scum. The worse part is besides the extremely limited door busters most of the deals go for the whole weekend.

>>385946142
People need gas to drive around, especially on Thanksgiving. People need food to survive, and also benefits Thanksgiving, obviously. People do not need a video game from a brick-and-mortar chain at all hours of the day, especially a holiday, and definitely not in the digital age.

>>385945871

Black Friday hasn't existed for years, all the stores do their biggest sales thursday evening, aka thanksgiving
Tons of stores are open on Thanksgiving now

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>wagecuckery

>>385946142
Or the police, ems, fire departments, hospital workers etc etc

It's just America right? So it doesn't really matter...

>>385946327
Exactly, but some spotty teens in a video game store are crying about it.

muh $15 hour per hour
muh jewish politician cares about the working class
muh fascist corporation
muh unfair wage

>>385945871

>Thanksgiving is sacred
>4th of July is sacred

The world doesn't give a fuck about America's holidays or celebrations and nor does America's current generation. People have been working Christmas holidays for decades already.

>>385946351
Aren't they trying to make Black Friday a thing in Europe?

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>>385946406
Good, America doesn't give a fuck about you either.

>>385946406
Nah man, 4th of july was legit, America saved us all from those aliens.

>>385945871
i can go to the gamestop on thanksgiving day
it's not like i will have something to do thaty day anyway

I hate all the americans in the whole world

>>385945871

>but muh sacred thanksgiving

Go fuck yourself, it's a job not a charity, if the owners think people might want to buy stuff that day, they'll open the store, like any restaurant or food chain. Just because you don't feel like getting out of your house that day, doesn't make it a rule for everyone else. If the employees don't like it, they can quit and find a job that suits their special needs. People who work that day will probably get a day-off some other day and I know plenty of people who would rather work in a holiday because of the happy vibes and stay home on a normal day.

>>385946454
Yeah, but they're failing hard trying to break the population's ethical integrity.

>>385946406
And yet you have to chime in on American affairs, interesting.

>>385946454
In Canada as well. Over here, it's just a normal day with sales instead of the literal stampedes for TVs and occasional trampled deads youre getting in the US

>>385946569

>actually thinks his opinion matters

>>385946569
I hate every country except America
The difference is, America can blow you up, but you can't blow up America without dying too.

>>385946406
OBSESSED

>>385945871
grocery stores are usually open on thanksgiving day, so are some restaurants. they do this because if they closed then they lose out on a huge day of sales and profit from people doing last-minute preparations. workers usually get a say in whether or not they have to work that day though, and a lot of high schoolers usually work that day because they get extra pay out of working holiday.

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>>385946608
>ethical integrity.

>>385946181

Who are you to say what other people want or need? Speak for yourself.

Why are libtards so annoying?

>>385946650
America can't blow up jack shit you mongrel.

>>385946682
Restaurants and groceries make sense though. Why GameSpot thinks it needs to stay open is the baffling part.

>>385946068
Retail shitter as well. Fuckers were literally RUNNING out of the cars while they were still moving to grab overpriced shit. We watched from the loading dock and laughed at all of them.
>But Anon, it's on a HUGE discount!
Hue. No.

If you really want the day off for family then put it as ones of your paid holiday days in advance.
It's not complicated. I don't even get holiday days and I ask off Christmas like 3-4 months in advance so I can spend time with family.

Would rather spend the extra money instead of dealing with the crowds fuck black friday

I don't understand Black Friday.
Most of the sales aren't very good at all, and it doesn't make sense why companies would give their best sales right before the Holidays.

I always thought the best sales came in February/March.

anyone else voluntarily take up shifts on holidays? like i get paid 2x more and it gives me an excuse to not see family.

Who cares? Retail workers are NPC tier.

I hate holidays and birthdays and any kind of stupid date that's made important for no reason. So if I get paid triple to work during a "holiday" better for me, retards that think they can only eat with their family once a day are retarded, they can eat with them any other day of the year and get paid triple if they work that day.

>>385946830
Other retailers have been letting out their holiday sales earlier and earlier, to the point that many of them start on thanksgiving day now. Gamestop as a company has been going down the shitter really hard these past few years, so now they're banking on a longer holiday season to make up for their usual deficit.

>>385946876
You're very naive.

>>385946978

When they're dead you'll wish you had spent more time with them.

>>385946949
It helps clear old stock before they get new stuff for Christmas

>>385947120
Not if she hates her family.

>>385947120
Some already have died, still don't care ;)

>>385947058
>m-m-m-muh workers rights
If you're one of the dumbasses that has been demanding $15/hr without realizing it's just going to make housing prices skyrocket in tandem, then go suck a dick.

>>385947198
>she

>>385945871
Retail shitter here. There are shittons of people who will always wait until the VERY FUCKING LAST SECOND to get all their holiday shopping done.

>>385947120
You will get to see them in hell anyways while boiling in semen.

>>385947204
No it won't

>>385947194
But wouldn't they also want to clear Christmas stock in the beginning of the following year?

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>>385947198
>she

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This thread made me check the holidays for my work, not bad I guess. You also get a day off on your birthday, with pay if you've been there for a few months.

>>385947204
Housing is already way too expensive for anyone on minimum wage.

Thanksgiving Day isn't a holiday.

>>385947202
>>385947198

Why hate them? They're inviting you to share a dinner on a special day, considering you have to make excuses to not go, they can't be that bad.

>>385947248
Man law states than men shop during the last week before Christmas.

>>385945871
I wprk as a butcher and you'd be surprised how many faggots go out shopping on the day of thanksgiving. I had one lady try to assault me when I told her we were out of fresh turkeys and only had frozen left just last year.

>>385947198
>(s)he

>>385946837
best buy member master race here. I'll do all my shopping on tuesday the week of and enjoy my bed at night while others wait in the cold

Aren't there sales all year round on things?
If you want something cheap, you are better off checking throughout the year than waiting for one day.

>>385946949
PC hardware always has some good deals.
>piece together a rig 30% off
>sell for 130% value to r/games
$1000 for 3 hours of work isn't shabby, even if it all goes towards 30% off HDDs for my data hoarding.

>>385947305

What job?

I always go as soon as I'm done eating thanksgiving dinner, I just feel like I need to walk it off and what better way than browsing for some cheap vidya, thats when I get the current year FIFA for half the price and PSN Plus for cheaper.

>>385947275
>>385947308
I live in Minneapolis and my rent went up $100/month this year because of you fags, and $15/hr doesn't even start until 2019.
My friend who works a serving job like any non retard without the skills to get a high paying job has also said that their tips are down since, because people think it's in effect already.

Whenever minimum wage goes up, housing prices do too. You're shit on if you weren't making minimum basically.

>>385947369
You cant buy turkeys at gamespot.
they just work there

>>385947445
But I find those deals on Newegg usually at the beginning of the year.

ITT: Wage slaves telling wage slaves to be thankful they are wage slaves.

>>385947334
They invited me so they must be not bad? Are you retarded? Have you never dealt with people?

>>385946164
But the things you want are usually sold out in minutes.

>>385945974
"third world" doesn't mean what you think it means, and america literally could not be more first world.

>make a list on Amazon
>fill it with Christmas ideas from people
>once i have everyone down i order everything at once
Honestly why leave the house anymore

>>385947452
Fukken ur mom

>>385947452
Freight dock worker.
Holidays still suck through even if you get them off because it just means double the work the next day or the remainder of the week if it's really bad.

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>>385946668
OBESED

>>385947540
Yeah, but people aren't buying their kids a gaming PC in February.

>>385947326
>Thanksgiving Day isn't a holiday
Its a U.S. national holiday. Its even an answer in the naturalization test.

>>385945871
>sorry mum cant stay for turkey pie gotta go for a smoke dont wait up also wheres pa's credit card

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>>385945871
Gamestop thread?

>>385947547

People that truly hate you don't care about inviting you to share free meal at their houses, kiddo. Maybe you just have some differences, but hate? Nah.

>>385947567
Americans are really this ignorant aren't they? Your mountain people don't have electricity, you have massive amounts of poor people and racists. You're third world.

>>385947634
It would be wiser to do so.

>amerifats refuse to work the day of a thousand slaughtered indians
Boo hoo

>>385947586
never talk about my mum again

>>385946575
>happy vibes
>on any holiday
>in any job that requires customer service
You have probably never worked a day in your life.

>>385947532
Okay. You're still wrong though. If the minimum wage is raised to a livable wage people will be able to live in those apartments.

>>385946949
Honestly, it depends on what you are looking for and how knowledgeable you are about prices.

Games usually have pretty good discounts, but most stores offer similar deals to each other and repeat deals on monday. Best Buy and Amazon both have some decent online sales, and I made out pretty well last year. Its also not a bad time to buy a console either.

For stuff like TVs, laptops, tablets, or most consumer electronics? It is mostly a scam, since those models tend to be cheap ass versions or by a less then stellar company that did not sell well during the year and they want to get rid of it.

>>385945871

So you don't give a fuck if people can worship Mammon during Christmas you think Thanksgiving is some sacred holiday now where the country has to come to a halt? Fuck off

>americans work the hardest, longest, and take the fewest vacations
>the ones with the shittiest jobs who are constantly on welfare defend this kind of bullshit

im glad you fat sacks of shit deal with other sad poor sacks of shit on holidays, you brought this on yourselves

be sure to argue that you love your shitty low paying job because it's better than some alternative Alex Jones told you would happen if you actually had the mental capacity to think

>>385945871
GameStop is getting real desperate, Radioshack pulled the same nonsense before they went belly up.

How many years do you give them /v/? I'll say 2019 at the latest and GS is gone or bought out by Walmart or some shit.

Thanksgiving is just another day. Its like complaining that you have to work on your birthday.

>>385947810

Not in customer service, you're right, but it can't be worse than on a normal day.

>>385947757
Couldn't even be bothered to look up what first, second, and third world mean, huh?

HINT: They are not indicators of quality of life or development status.

>>385947782
You don't live here, why do you care?

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>>385947689
>go into Gamestop to buy Brink because they had a steep in store sale
>faggot at the counter keeps trying to discourage me from buying it
>ignore it because I assumed he was trying to sell me something else
>soon learn he was just trying to help me

>>385947689
>fedora
>lmao2coats
>generic blue jeans
>autism shoes
>gently sprinkling the pasta on the ground out of sight of the gamestop girl as to avoid alerting her
What a degenerate loser

>>385947925
Cry more fatter

>>385945871
>waaah why is Gamestop open on Thanksgiving?
Gas yourselves commiecucks

>>385945871
>Anyone else think this is wrong?
Just say "No, I'm not working that day, sorry." And don't take any more calls from them. If you're not a cuck you won't work that day, and the actual cucks will because they can't so "no"

>>385945871
What the fuck?

>OH JEEZ IT'S THANKSGIVING I REALLY WANT TO GO TO GAMESTOP INSTEAD OF BEING WITH MY FAMILY

>>385947768
Tell that to the kid who gets a box with annual pricing history on PC parts instead of a PC on Jesusmas Day.

It's amazing how an American holiday upsets europeans
Keep proving that obsession meme wrong you dumb poofters

>>385947975
Why is the rest of the world so obsessed with us?

>>385947919
Oh it gets much much worse on holidays.

>>385947308
So find a non minimum wage job retard.
>but I can't!
Yes you can. The US postal service is ALWAYS hiring and they make over $15/hr starting. It goes up to $20 after you get some experience in.
Or become a delivery driver, bartender, server, etc. Tipped employees usually rake in over $20/hr in cities.

>>385947864
Wrong
https://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2015/08/23/the-minimum-wage-in-cities/#4c03ecf66153
Plus minimum wage is livable. Just eat cheaper food, don't have cable etc. You can reduce your monthly food budget to $100 by eating very very cheap stuff. Good / tasty food is a luxury not a necessity.

>>385945871
this seems like a stunt just to get back into the news. you know what they say "bad publicity is still publicity"

>>385948049

If you wanted to be with your family that bad, you wouldn't wait for a single day every year to be with them.

>>385948060
I would buy a better computer for the same price in two months.

>>385947949
She saw it. You can see the look on her face.

>>385947938
You sound rather bothered : )
Socalfag just having a funpost actually

>>385947943
I love the binyoid

You'd be surprised, the Black Friday fervor is very real and Thanksgiving openings are an attempt to get a head start on the competition on sales.

For a company as desperate as Gamestop, it makes sense.

>>385945974

Third world means third parties from the Cold War. America was the central first world country and Russia was the main second world country.

>>385948158
This. I live on chicken, rice, and random veggies with semen on top.

>>385947975
>Oh shit I'm wrong, and my sense of worth is so wrapped up in my cultural identity that I can't admit I was wrong on an anonymous imageboard! I'd better insult him to prove I'm winning!
You got me.

>>385948037
So GameStop gets hundreds of applications per month. It also takes less time to train an employee to work there than it does at McDonald's. Because of this, they can get away with treating their employees worse than practically any other retail company in the US. Employees are treated as if they should be privileged just to work there.

If you say no to working on Thanksgiving, you will get fired. The only alternative is to not work there.

I used to be a store manager.

Gamestop black friday is a joke. They have no deals better than other stores, and are at best a tertiarty visit by black friday shoppers.

They have us open at 5 or 6 am and almost every time we might see at best a few customers before 8 am.

Corporate has NEVER figured out why the stores aren't a hot destination on black friday. I'm sure this change is because they think it has to do with the stores not having a jump on other people.

The best part is, nobody will get bonus pay for working thanksgiving except for keyholder employees, and even then probably just the store manager and asm.

People still aren't going to go to gamestop on thanksgiving, and corporate still won't know why the hell not.

>>385948226
If he's gonna get caught, he'd might as well slam it on the counter and roll in the meme fame. Would probably be preferable to everyone involved. Women love confidence

>>385948158
Okay. You know if America was intelligent we would have elected Bernie and gotten the wage raised up and been prosperous for the next 50 years in spite of conservatards opposition right?

its a shame that /v/ is full of autists who cant bother to spend 1 day every 4-5 months with their family

>>385948158
>if you eat shit, it's ok to live in poverty
>minimum wage is livable

reminder: some faggots in the world actually believe this shit

well good news is that those same dumbasses lwill die from heart attacks because all they can afford to eat is mcdonalds

>>385948037
Former store manager, you'd lose your job.

The district managers in general are totally aware of how easy it is to get someone new in to a store and abuse it. I've seen them take a stack of applications and wave them in an employees face while telling them they can be replaced in an hour if they wanted.

>>385947757
>says the US wasn't US aligned in the Cold War
>lol u americans r so ignorant

Google what "First World" means retard. If there's a first world and a third world what do you think the second world was?
First world and third world are meaningless buzzwords that haven't been used correctly since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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>>385946978
I make it a chore these days not to see family at Thanksgiving. Just cant take it
>most aunts and uncles only talk about traveling
>cousins are mostly married, one is having a kid
>only other cousin doesn't bathe and plays the ocarina because LoZ (no, seriously)
>don't have anything in common with any of them
>that's just my moms side of the family
>dads side is just filled with basket cases who we rarely see because most of them are just batshit crazy but rich af
used to have fun going over to some cousins house and playing vidya or going outside and playing pretend, but now they just want to bitch about their jobs and friends

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>>385948516
But anon I spend all year with them because I never moved out.

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>>385945871

>tfw I haven't seen anyone in my family for over 7 years now

At least I'll get Time-and-a-half for it

>>385948158
>Plus minimum wage is livable.
Only in certain places in the US, which is the problem.

Good luck living off minimum wage in california, or denver.

>>385948557
Yeah they just recently emailed a list of how many digital applications each store in the district has. One store had 200 new applications that month. They said the email was sent to prepare us for the holiday season and get new people hired on, but it kind of felt like a threat.

>>385948513
Communism has literally never worked. Why would it work this time?

>>385948721
Its never actually been tried so how do we know?

>>385948675
Maybe you shouldn't live in a densely-populated city if you can't afford it.

>>385948675
Then fucking move? If you're broke as shit then it should be easy to put your things in a hobo sack.

>>385946823
Says the turdworlder who shits in the street.

>>385948614
>7 years
how fucking old are you

>time-and-a-half
>being a wageslave

>>385947975
>don't know 1st world means Cold War era NATO
>get btfo
>w-well your fat

Ignorant Americans right?

>>385948770
It's not even just cities.

You can't live in any but the most ghetto suburb between san clemente to north of the greater LA area on minimum wage in California, and it's even worse in all but rural northern california.

>>385948097

They wish they could hide from their AIDS

>>385948721
Good thing no communists are running

>>385948901
Then go to a different state.

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>>385948763
Many tried. It's just impossible to achieve.

>>385946830
Movie theaters are open thanksgiving as well. Hell, thanksgiving was pretty busy when I worked at one mainly because there was very few other places open and people had the whole day off.

>>385948770
>look fellow eight graders I made a joke on an internet again

move out of your parents' house first before talking like you know shit, kid, you won't have your mom to wash your star wars bedsheets forever

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>>385948513
>Muh socialism
Pfffthahahahaha
Okay who's going to pay for it then

>>385948546
Based on $8/hr after taxes
>40 hour weeks = $320 a week
>$1300/month
>internet is $30/month
>phone is $20/month
>rent is $420/month with a roommate
>electric is $60/month with a roommate
>food is $100/month eating cheap
>end up with almost $600/month left for car payment (if you even own a car at that) / insurance etc.
Wow so hard
>all they eat is mcdonalds
Chicken, beans, rice. emphasis on the rice.
Wow so hard

>>385948675
Move then, retard.

>>385948801
Moving costs a lot of money, even just in renting a new place you need to put down a first/last month rent and security deposit, relocation costs, and be cushioned enough to look for work at the new place, let alone going there to actually find a place ahead of time.

It's blatantly obvious when people who haven't had to handle things like this talk about it.

>>385948721
Communism could work if not for the inherent problem of complete self interest

>>385949050
>>385949021
You two are retarded. Democratic Socialism is the natural evolution of capitalism.

>>385946784
pack it up guys, /pol/'s here.

>>385948986
Which costs a lot of money just to move, and even then will put you in a similar situation in all but the smallest and isolated places which also have the lowest amount of job opportunity.

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>>385948425
>tfw no keyholder gf

end this suffering

>>385948956
You can call yourselves whatever you like. Doesn't matter. Commies.

>>385949065
Yeah and if you aunt had a cock she'd be your uncle.

>>385949050
>I don't pay taxes or allocate money toward transportation to a job
>I don't pay for insurance
>I don't save any more
>I don't have student loans or any other debt

hope your mom is packing your lunches for school starting next week

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>>385948956
Bernie defended Venezuela and said they were making good decisions.

>>385949065
People would have to be pure machines to make communism work. You have to take away intrinsic desire out of a person and the mentality that if you work harder you get more.

>>385949126
t. brainlet
Capitalism is the natural evolution of capitalism. Automation will see a shift to a new kind of capitalism, but it will still be, and will still be called, capitalism.

>>385949050
>>food is $100/month eating cheap
Outline how you would eat for a month on $100 flat.

>>385945871

>How could they do such a thing to these hard working people??? making them work a HOLIDAY????

Make no mistake, none of these companies care about you just because you work for them, they just see you as numbers and nothing more. Daily reminder that if they could replace you with cheap robot alternatives they would.

>>385949194
not if it's a feminine penis

>>385949126
Democracy is just another pipe dream that relies on the average voter not being a greedy, misinformed retard.

>>385949308
Chile is definitely more of a shithole than Venezuela what are you trying to do? There are posters from both countries in this thread that can confirm

>>385945871
If I were American, the last thing i'd be thinking about is going to Gamestop on thanksgiving.

>>385945871
I work at Best Buy and have worked the past 2 Thanksgivings.

The exact shit kind of bargain hunting fuckheads that you think are out there is who comes in. Thankfully, we at least open really late so I can eat with my family first.

>>385946068
>tfw you work at a dollar store so even though you have to deal with a lot of trash year-round at least black friday is just the usual bullshit and nobody goes to you for the black friday meme

>>385949508
What's it like working at a dollar store?

>>385946454
Yeah. So much that there are companies that have a Black friday every week. Sometimes not even on friday

>>385949308
Thats exactly what I'm saying. Communism can't work because people are generally more concerned about their well being and what they want than whats better for the whole. It's as I said self interest is why it can't work. You want to see communism actually work check out a beehive.

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>mfw a eurocuck was obsessed near me

>>385949050
Where is this budget for, what phone plan, where is your gas and water utilities, gasoline costs etc?

This sounds like you don't live on your own.

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>>385949308
>World of Warcraft currency is now worth more than Venezuelan currency

>>385949319
Not him but $25/week is enough for water, chicken, rice, beans, and some milk maybe eggs.

>>385949508
Do you get mad when someone goes to your store and buys the whole shelf worth of a product?

>>385949661
If you eat a starvation diet, maybe.

>>385949561

lots of theft and lots of people that abuse the shit out of coupons but otherwise not that different from any other retail job I've ever seen/had.

>>385949050
>Based on $8/hr after taxes
So, not minimum wage?

This is non news. Nobody but boomers care about thanksgiving. These liberal millennial losers just don't wanna work

>>385949308

t. American

Chile is above Venezuela, but it isn't this amazing place you think it is. It's just propaganda from the government, much like the "Argentina is white" thing.

>>385949770
Is theft even viewed as that big a deal? It's just a dollar and some change total.

>>385949301
Taxes is thrown in there brainlet. I reduced to $8/hr after taxes. Transportation can be FREE if you use your bike / walk.
>Insurance
You've got $600/month left if you want insurance. If you don't that's up to you.
>I don't save
You can do that too m8
>I don't have student loans
Well no shit, if you honest to god have student loans and picked a career path that pays minimum that's your own damn fault retard.

>>385949319
$2.50/lb of chicken breast from Aldi. 1 lb per day for 30 days = $75
Spend the rest on rice and nuts.

>>385949423
retard.

>>385949585
You don't need a car

>>385949841
$9.50/hr is minimum wage where I live. I based prices off of my own city.

>>385949740
As an asian, white rice is pretty cheap and filling. The only issue is all the sugars can lead to diabetes.

>>385949884

not every dollar store only carries things that are exactly $1. That said yeah, that shit adds up really fast.

>>385949882
Chile is only behind Argentina and Mexico for North and South America.
That's not saying a lot, but it does show that their economic plan has made them far more prosperous than Brazil, Cuba, and Venezuela with their dabblings into socialism.

>>385945871
This kind of shit has been going on for years with black friday sales starting Thanksgiving day.

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>tfw saving up to finish school next year
>better job hopefully soon after i graduate

This shitty job is driving me insane. I honestly don't understand how people can work fast food for so long. I work with complete imbeciles from """management""" on down that I don't even know how they function in real life. Minimum wage is a fucking joke

>>385949925
>You don't need a car
And your budget is based on what location? You didn't answer the vast bulk of those questions.

>>385949740
It'd be rough and you wouldn't have calories for exercise but it's doable. Beats relying on ramen for sustenance (because holy fuck don't do that)

>>385950107
This is a city budget. If you are living in a city, you do not need a car. If you are living outside of a city, you will not have an issue finding a job that makes more than minimum.

>>385949925
>retard.
not an argument. Venezuela IS better off than Chile

>>385950190
>If you are living outside of a city, you will not have an issue finding a job that makes more than minimum.

People that live outside the city still work in the city.

>>385950096
Should've worked as a server, brainlet. Or post office.
Your own fault you went for a meme job.

>>385950278
Yeah /b/ro let me just go to the job tree and pick out any job I want

It's probably good for American's to stand and walk around a store than to eat turkey.

Also who fucking cares? My sister used to be in soccer tournaments every Thanksgiving we just ate the day before. I only take murican Thanksgiving off to watch football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npkeecCErQc

>>385949563
I would argue that there is such a thing as collective self-interest - that is, supporting things that benefit a larger group will in some way improve their own conditions. It's the reason why in some communist revolutions, the urban and rural poor have supported such revolutions. They've seen tangible benefits for themselves in the form of improved education, healthcare, and working conditions. See my video as an example of why people in Cuba fucking loved Castro and his revolution.

Also, the human nature argument against communism is really dumb because there is no singular "human nature." Humans are capable of a myriad of behaviors, and I would argue that the most common behaviors are a product of environment. Is it any surprise that people are greedy when we live in a society that promotes greed and competition above all else?

Otherwise, I will agree that greed and corruption have had a role in undermining communist revolutions, especially when there is a centralized party and bureaucratic apparatus, one of the major flaws with any socialist system modeled on Leninism.

tfw walmart

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>>385950274
Then move into the city if you can't afford to live outside of it.

>>385950220
Wrong
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2017&region=005

>>385950332
Postal office brainlet. Literally always hiring and have been for decades.

>>385948580
Yeah and those terms have different meanings since the cold war has ended, first paragraph wikipedia reader. Language isn't static, words and terms can change meaning, they don't retire when they stop being relevant.

>>385950463
Nice link that leads to no actual evidence. Venezuela cares about the individual and not the corporation. That instantly makes them better.

>>385948546
If it's not livable why aren't all retail workers dying? Legitimate question. You won't be able to answer with anything other than " well okay it's mostly teenagers supported by their parents and we have a social safety net that actually pushes the rest over the edge" It's such a stupid nonargument. I'd unironically rather extend social safety net for unskilled/useless adults than minimum wage for so many reasons. Not that i support either.

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>>385950364
>celebrating thanksgiving on Wednesday
Why even bother at that point. Wasted turkey. I hope you all just order takeout and talk about where else you'd rather be as you clearly hate America so much

It doesn't really matter WHEN you celebrate a holiday. Work on the holiday to take advantage of extra pay, and just have your family celebrate it the day after or the day before. Or some other day.
I mean, nobody is really sure when Jesus was born, so it really doesn't matter whether you celebrate it on the 25th or the 26th or the 7th. As long as you celebrate it sincerely.

>>385950571
As someone who worked in retail, there were many people who worked 2 jobs.

>>385945871
this is the future that leftists want

>>385945871
if you don't want to work just don't work you cucks. you should have the opportunity to work if you want to tho

>>385950571
lots of people work multiple jobs, or sacrifice so much that you can barely call it "livable"

>>385946532

I like you, anon

>>385950278
>>385950463
why are you so obsessed with working at the post office?

>>385950589
Thanksgiving is always a monday in Canada. And no we do the full turkey dinner on the sunday. With homemade spaetzel it's delicious. Serious question, why do you guys make fancy dinners when there is fucking football on? You claim i hate America...

>>385947567
No first world country has that ridiculous level of violence and crime america has.

>>385950661
>>385950757
So it is a living wage? You are just being disenengenous about hours when you say it's not? Got it.

I don't like being near my family so this is a good excuse for me not seeing them.

>>385950397
Human nature is the belief that 'the more I scratch your back, the more you scratch mine'
Communism does not follow this, neither does socialism. It's why they always fail.
The only even moderately successful socialist like systems are ones based off of capitalism, such as democratic socialism. These are still generally short lived though.

>>385950536
It's in the page.
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Venezuela has the third highest documented murder rate on the planet.
What a great place!

>>385950779
I have a family member that works there, as well as a friend. They talk about it a lot, tell anyone that doesn't have a job to just apply because the post office is always hiring etc.

>>385949308
Venezuela isn't socialist. Certainly they're ruled by a party that espouses socialism, but the country itself is not socialist. Most of the industry in the country is privately owned. A large part of their problems are due to the fact that the government decided to fund most of their social services though oil revenue, and when oil prices fell, their revenue fell drastically. Also, they fucked up hard on attempts to redistribute agricultural land, most of which was owned by large landowners. As a consequence, they now have to import most of their food.

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>>385950787
>this whole post
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Does life get better after college and starting a job? like what do you do with all this disposable income?

>>385950752
clearly, this guy doesn't live or work in the US. there's a surplus of workers, one fuck up and you're replaced, especially in the low-skill type of jobs like retail and fast food. you're just a cog in the machine, your employment is completely up to the whim of the company, no matter how much you think you're a good worker or that you add value to the company.

>>385945871
I-I did last year, Walmart on thanksgiving evening was a fucking spectacle to behold

>>385947757
Ugh, racism, am I right?

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>>385950951
>I-It's not real socialism

>every year say I won't go shopping on Christmas Eve
>always end up needing something and having to face the storm

>>385950957
pay off student loans

>>385950897
Technically speaking, you can make any wage living if you put in enough hours but when people say living wage, what they mean is if you can live on that wage in a full time job, IE 40 hours a week. If you have to add additional hours above that limit, then the wage isn't a living wage anymore. Of course there are other reasons for working more than 40 hours a week but that's a different matter.

>>385950993
>surplus of workers.
So someone will take your shift, got it, problem solved.
I'm starting to think you are the one who doesn't live in the US. I'm willing to wager a shit tonne of people want the time and a half shift. No employer is going to fire you for that, and likely most can't.

>>385950957
>disposable income

hahahah my sides. every dollar i make goes back to paying for some sort of bill. sure i can order out a couple times a week, but that is the extent of my "disposable" income. before you ask why i work for minimum wage, i make $15 an hour and it's still not enough to keep up. i just keep falling farther behind.

on the positive side, no homework or tests, when you punch out for the day, (theoretically) you don't have to think about work until you go in next time.

>>385945871
Thanksgiving should be abolished anyway.

>>385951057
>>385949050
>>385949021
>these memes
>>>/pol/

>>385950993
I'm starting to think you don't have a job lmao. It's hard to get fired unless you just really suck

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>>385951181
Butthurt commie detected

>>385951138
>all this silly justification
It is a living wage and nobody is dying.
Case closed.
At least make your arguements based on wanting less government help or less hourd or buying nicer stuff. Minimum wage is a stupid policy but I'm sure you can make some arguements.

>>385948463
>>385948226
>>385947949

>Being this new to not realize how old that is

Fucking reddit I swear to god.

>>385951147
wow i fucking wish i lived in your fantasy land. clearly i meant for every person employed there are at least 10 applicants waiting to replace you, creating a huge supply of potential employees.

and, most US states are right-to-work, which means barring illegal reasons such as discrimination, an employer can cut you loose for literally any reason they see fit.

>>385951161
Either get a roommate, eat cheaper food, or kill yourself for people stupid and taking out enormous loans.

>>385948546
You can get more calories and be healthier for cheaper if you're not a dumbass who eats out everyday on minimum wage

>>385950928
>Venezuela has the third highest documented murder rate on the planet.
What's your point

>>385951216
I got fired for "fighting" my boss at Staples
>4 hours 57 minutes in my shift
>"boss, i gotta punch for lunch"
>"just work through it, there's no one else"
>"no" and punch out
>he stops me at the doorway
>puts his hands on me
>shove him to the side and leave
>2 days later the GM sits me down
>"did you put your hands on your boss?"
>"yes, i-"
>"thank you that's enough"
>called in two hours later
>"you're no longer with the company"
Retail is pretty finicky sometimes. They didn't even offer me my job back when the same manager did the same thing to another associate (but without his shirt and on top of a counter that time)

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>>385950465
>the cold war has ended

>>385950957
Somewhat yes, somewhat no. I love coming home and having no homework or pressure. I play a lot of vidya and shit. Most of my income is trapped in the void of trying to buy property in Vancouver. But i do travel a bit and buy stupid vidya shit and alcohol.

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>>385951378
Are commies this dumb?
Really?

>>385951216
when i worked retail, new people came and went every other fucking week.

and yes, i do have a job, but it's a "real" job where i don't have to worry about getting fired every other day.

>>385950190
Name the city this budget is based around. This is the THIRD time I've asked you, and you won't do it.

Where are the other utilities? Why won't you clarify any of this?

>>385950779
To be fair, sorting jobs are literally $20 an hour

>>385951420
are you my cousin on unemployment?

>>385951057
It isn't. Socialism is, by definition, any system in which the workers own the means of production, distribution, and exchange. If it does not meet these criteria, it is not socialism. Also, I know that pic is just a meme, but the Soviet Union killed nowhere near 50% of its own population. Even under Stalin, when there were famines and people getting sent to the gulag, the population kept growing despite this. The population of the Soviet Union only declined when Germany invaded and killed millions of soldiers and civilians.

>>385951321
Your an idiot who has never worked a wage job.
>give availability, not available Thanksgiving.
>oops forgot, trade shifts with someone not working Thanksgiving who wants time and a half
>oops no one wants to, burn vacation day or excused shift or whatever.
Employers like gamestop actually want to minimize hours of each employee as to avoid paying benefits, training and hiring is annoying and unions exist.

>>385951541
No sir but it's neat knowing someone else is/was in a similar mess

>>385951504
Idk I've been working shitty, low-skill jobs for 5 years. Call off all the time and never been fired.

>>385951538
and I'm sure they just hire any cuck off the street

>>385945871
The only reason they're staying open thanksgiving day is to try and make up sales being lost to online sales. Nothing wrong for a dying business to try and stay alive. If the employees don't like it they can find a new line of work for a business that isn't dying.

>>385951643
Actually yes, as long as you pass the civil test. It's not hard, I know someone who just got hired at one and he's been neet for 4 years

>>385951535
Minneapolis I already mentioned earlier in this thread.
I listed all my utilities. Rent, electric, phone, internet.
You do not need a car in Minneapolis, most work is very close to where your apartment is and the city caters to bikers to a fault.

>>385950190
>This is a city budget.
There is no universal city budget. The costs in every city in the US are different.

>>385951329
lolololol kill myself? because i live in a different place and face different hardships than you? and for enormous loans, my student loans barely scratched $30k, meanwhile i know people with upwards of $100k in debt.

Communism may be hot garbage but it's shit like this which makes people naively flock to it.

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>>385951610
Venezuela did shit tons of redistribution, and it killed their economy.
Get over it m8, socialism doesn't work. Every single attempt has ended in failure. Every single attempt has been done with people far smarter than you (but still fucking retarded for thinking they could pull it off) creating a system based on Marx's principles of socialism and communism, and every single time it ended in complete and utter failure.
How do you think you'd be able to pull it off where no one else has?

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>>385946068
I stay home and watch the madness of black Friday on YouTube. Very comfy

>>385951697
Gas and water are utilities you pay for.

You also don't cover necessities under your budget.

The average one bedroom apartment in minneapolis is $1461 a month. A studio apartment even is more expensive than your budget calls for.

>>385951706
So move
>>385951741
My student loans got to $5k total because I'm not a moron.
>b-b-but you're rich
$5k family help total, so I guess you could say I would have had $10k debt without help. I just worked a lot.

Here is a tip for all of you flumixed on living off minimum wage.
Don't move out of your parents house until you have a real job and enough for a down payment.

>>385951057
that 1% gets larger and larger, must be due to interest rates over time.

>>385951891
>average one bedroom apartment in minneapolis is $1461 a month
Holy fucking shit, a 3 bedroom apartment here isn't even $1000 a month

>>385951840

Wanna watch Independence Day some time?

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>>385951891
>Gas and water are utilities you pay for.
Included in rent.
>The average one bedroom apartment in minneapolis is $1461 a month. A studio apartment even is more expensive than your budget calls for.
Wrong kid. My apartment is $850/month for a one bedroom + studio, and I split it with a roommate so it's half that for me.

>>385951626
>your an idiot
good one.
>never worked a wage job
every job i've had is a wage job pal. when i worked retail vacation days were blacked out for holidays, and if you didn't show up on a holiday that was it. welcome to the wonderful world of right-to-work states.

>>385951891
Right, his budget is missing things, and it calls for an irregular deal on an apartment that would see the person sharing a 5-600 sq ft space with another adult in order to get by, while living a starvation diet and needing their job to be within easy walking distance.

>>385949882
But Argentina IS white.

Every single Argentinian I have ever seen both in person and on TV has been super light skinned, and often with eye colors typical of Europeans.

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>>385945871
It's just GameStop trying to stay alive. Unfortunately for them, nobody is going to go early Black Friday shopping at GameStop for "sweet deals" on Funko pops and shitty "le epic reddit nerd" merchandise. No reason to shop at GameStop when Amazon Prime and Best Buy's Gamers Club Unlocked exists. Used games can be bought on eBay/Craigslist for a lot cheaper than you'd find them at GameStop, and you'd actually get a case for your game too.

Don't be surprised if they go bankrupt soon. RadioShack did the same thing before they filed.

>>385951003
And Walmart's Black Friday rush has actually been dying down a little in the past year or two, thanks to staggered sales, longer running sales, and online shopping.

>>385948546
Buying mcdonalds is actually more expensive than buying cheap canned food on sale/rice

>>385952025
Because he's lying to you, a one bedroom apartment in MPLS is not $1461 a month.
MAYBE if you live like smack dab in the middle of downtown, but downtown is not the only part of the city.

>>385952065
Go find a similar apartment for rent in minneapolis right now.

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O I'm laffin

GameStop deserve it.

>>385946575
I don't mind working on holidays in and of itself. More money for working them is a plus. The last job I had sucked for it

>We were open every day except Christmas
>Only store open other holiday
>I was the only floor staff on, mainly because my managers were shit at planning
>I usually ran around like a chicken with its head cut off, doing the work of three people

Glad I left there. I still work in retail, but at a much stressful place.

>>385946575
>t fat cat CEO

>>385952185
It was nearly empty on actual Black Friday, everyone goes on Thursday night now

I've never envied someone more than when one of my coworkers finally snapped at knocked out a customer
>hear them in the back corner of the store
>customer straight up taunting the kid and asking him to put a finger on him (lawyer country wololol)
>hear a loud thud followed by some screaming
>crashing and bashing sounds, products falling off the shelves
>more "thwacks" and screaming
>eventually coworker walks out
>throws his shirt at me and tells to tell everyone he quits
>customer comes out beet red, messed up, and flustered
>left without saying anything
>manager freaking out like he's gonna be sued or something
>nothing ever happened from it
The dude didn't need the job though. I think he worked part time retail "for the lols". He drove a new Corvette and always wore nice clothes

>>385950951
The oil revenue dropping shouldn't have been as large a problem because there should have been other industries to fall back on.
The reality however was there weren't other industries to fall back on however because those other industries had left Venezuela out of fear their companies would be seized under Socialist regime.

A co-worker of mine once punched a supervisor in the face and walked off.

>dude just work 40 hours a week lmao
but I want to live my life

>>385945871
I had to work over thankgiving once. It was also my birthday. It sucked.
Gamestop employees get no sympathy from me.

>>385952256
Sorry, Thursday is what I meant by "Black Friday".

>>385947567
>Soime super wealthy city districts, everywhere else poor as fuck
>Narcisstic tinpot dictator in charge
>Anaemic mains power supply that doesn't even cover the entire country
>Cops and fellow citizens will shoot you dead for looking at them the wrong way
>Belief that Jesus will carry people through all the hardship

Sounds pretty third world to me.

>>385952413
I don't even get 40 hours a week

>>385952462
Wouldn't that make you more likely to have sympathy for them? What are you a sociopath?

>>385947567
see you got BTFO and can't even respond to the truth. see >>385950894
>>385952478

>>385951864
>Tax the rich
>Put it into education
>Free education

That's it. That's literally it. That's all the socialism anyone needs and it works. The biggest problem isn't the form of government, it's how corrupt the government is. Capitalism just has a much higher resistance to collapsing when the government is corrupt beyond imagination, because even if the government is a huge failure, capitalism has to keep the little guy just alive enough to be a consumer, but not necessarily happy.

>>385952413
There are 168 hours in a week besides sleep and work the fuck are you doing for the other 75 that you can't live a life. Christ man i work fulltime with a might job and still have way more freetime than college.

>muh family dinner

My family is a bunch of egotistical assholes who are always trying to one up each other and hold grudges forever over fucking nothing. Why the fuck would I want to spend time with them?

>>385952308
>nothing ever happened from it
Shit I would have taken that and run with it. I know actual lawyers and that little shit would still be paying me back

>>385952567
>Tax the rich
Okay, at what percentage

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>>385952204
Okay
What do I win?

>>385952567
Lol wrong.
The rich don't have enough money to just pay for everyone's college brainlet, and if you tax them too much they'll just move to Switzerland.

>>385952643
>Muh shitty family

Some of us actually enjoy being with our loved ones, faggot. Sorry you don't understand this concept because of your garbage family.

>>385952724
>Go find one for rent now
>Here's mine

Try again, billy.

>>385945871
Good. I'm not saying I'll go on thanksgiving, but I want the option. They can just eat later.

>>385952664
It will never not confuse me. Like, that neighborhood is just filled with people trying to scam anyone they can, and you have to assume every asshole is just trying to goad you into a lawsuit. Can only think it was that 1:1,00,000 "oh i guess i can't just spit on people everywhere i go without consequence" reaction but still

>>385952478
>>385947757
First world literally refers to US and it's allies in the cold war. Third world means unaligned. You just think it means poor because it was mostly just poor countries that were unaligned. Still probably good to learn what words mean before using them or calling people idiots.
>>385950894
America does

>>385952593
Even when I was working 25 hours a week it felt like it was robbing me of my life. I'd get 4-5 5-6 hour shifts a week and because of them all being night shifts I'd end up sleeping most of the living day away only to go to work 2 hours after waking up to do it all again. When I would get a day off I'd be so tired out of my wits that I wouldn't even have the motivation to draw. That last day of mine I'd be lucky if anyone was available to do anything on and chances are I'd need that time to do laundry anyways.

>>385949308
>muh chile is rich
Chile is a fucking shithole and it looks like another latin american countries.
T. Someone from Antofagasta

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>>385952413
spending all your free time on 4chan isn't living your life btw

>>385952567

>Tax the rich
Check already doing it.
>Put it into education
Check already doing it.
>Free education
Hmm i mean i suppose you can nationalize the physical capital such as land and textbooks. Not sure how you'll get the educators to work for free though.

>>385953127
Your president literally admitted to tax evasion.

>>385953127
not him, but you know that doesn't mean they work for free but get paid by the state.

You know that.

Also, eliminating tax havens would effectively cover a lot of this, especially with the removal of the student loan system that drove college costs up to their current standard.

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>>385952046
Y-yes

>>385953180
No he didn't.
I think we need to remove people who don't understand the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion from the voting population.

>>385945974
>thinking America is third world with a third world education

>america is a third world
It's a really crude thing to say and disregards a lot of the problems in actual third world countries

>>385953273
>He doesn't know about tax dodging, tax elusion, tax parrying, tax departure
I can play the synonym game too nigger.

>>385946454
They tried in the UK about 2 years ago and it was just fat underclass single mothers and Pakis living on council estates fighting over flatscreen tvs that barely had a price reduction. It made news and everyone was embarrassed by it.

They did again last year but nothing happened.

>>385953127
LOL if you're enough of a fucking retard to believe that we properly tax the rich.

>>385953325
Actually if you look it up America's education system is so bad it makes any South American shithole look good. Most Americans can't even name the president or all 50 states, let alone their own states capital or governor. If they don't know who their ultimate authority figures are how do they expect to be taken seriously?

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>>385952825
Lease renewal period is over you fucking retard.
But here, I found one anyway for you so you can fuck off

>>385953059
Not rich.
Richer than most south american countries.

>>385953595
So, what percentage is the best to tax the rich?

>>385953674
Yt%

>>385953595
How is stealing 40% of someone's income not enough?
Would you like to have 40% of your income stolen?

>>385953674
110%

>>385953228
>>>385953127 (You)
>not him, but you know that doesn't mean they work for free but get paid by the state.
>You know that.
So not free then? Weird use of words.

And your math doesn't add up top 1% actually already pays 20+% of taxes on 13% of the pretax income and and top 20% is something like 70% of the tax on 50% of income.
Eliminating tax ""havens"" might increase revenue but not to the degree you think and the laffers curve is not linear. Nor can any lopsided taxes work in a capitilist society.
>>385953494
Tax evasion is underreporting or hiding income to avoid taxes. Tax avoidance is the perfectly legal procedure, of often times using accountants to pay the minimum possible amount of taxes you can legally. Everyone should do it within their abilities, it's just not worth thr cost of doing so for most of us.
>>385953595
See above they drastically are over represented in taxes http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/10/cbo-rich-pay-outsized-share-taxes/
They probably are the lowest in benefits received and pay more a year in taxes then you will in your life.

>>385952643
t. roblox roleplay enthusiast

>>385953708
>>385953753
So we don't know how much is correct then?

>>385945871
lol who cares about americucks

>>385951864
>posts about socialism not being able to work
>posts ancap memes at well
Ahahahaha, ancapistan would work out real well pal.

>>385954005
Why did you comment in this thread, rhaja?

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>>385954049
I'm not ancap, I just like the memes.

>>385954005
OBSESSED

>>385950096
>I honestly don't understand how people can work fast food for so long
When I worked at a fast food place as a teenager fresh out of highschool, every adult coworker was either a drug addict, alcoholic, had a criminal record, or had some kind of mental problem. I worked there for half a year and there was a constant rotation of new teenage workers, but all of the adults who weren't fired for stealing or being drunk on the job stuck around and are probably still there even now years later.

>>385949668
Different guy, but not at all. Most dollar stores get way more merchandise than they can actually put on the shelves. Every one I've worked at/covered shifts at has had at least a couple thousand cases of merchandise in the back at any given time.

>>385953626
It's not so bad that we don't know what a third world country is.

>>385954394
but you don't

>>385953835
So tax avoidance is basically a legal way of the rich avoiding paying taxes that they are more likely to have access to due to being rich?
Hmm.

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>>385953127
Taxes on the rich are at the lowest level in decades. The economy has grown, but wages have remained stagnant over the last few decades and inequality is growing to rates not seen since the late 1800's. It sure as shit ain't just a fucking coincidence.
>>385953674
100% past a certain income level. Basically a salary cap. The US actually had that at a certain point, under FDR.

>Americans are too retarded to realize that if they didn't spend so much on military they would be able to do free state paid college no problem.

>>385954463
Everyone does tax avoidance.
Me listing some of my spending at work (such as buying my lunch) as business expenditures is tax avoidance. You're SUPPOSED to do it.
Me listing the alcohol I bought as an expense that I didn't drink at work or drink with colleagues would be tax evasion.

The base income tax is only that for the lazy. They're not loopholes, they're intentionally there so you pay less tax.

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>>385953753
this. fuck rich people they're a drain on the economy not to mention society as a whole

>>385954576
>Taxes on the rich are at the lowest level in decades.
Wrong
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2012/11/republican-staff-study.html
The effective marginal tax rate has been essentially steady for decades.
Libs love bringing up that 90% tax rate without looking at the write offs that existed back then.

>>385954617
I don't think you understand the purpose of a large military

>>385954697
>putting suffering children out of their misery
>bad

wow anon you sure are cruel

>>385954463
More or less yes. Glad i could teach you something. You will look like less of an idiot next time.
>>385954576
>lowest level.
Actually income of the rich is down and you are looking at tax percentage instead of tax rate...
>100% passed a certain income level
I just to be clear, you do understand this will actually drastically reduce government revenue right? Like wealth taxed at 100% will simply fail to be generated. People don't work for free.

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>>385954692
Must the food be purchased at the workplace in order to count? I often had to go to a Tim Hortons on my lunch break to get a meal. How do you keep track of that or is it a wild estimate?

If you work at GS you should already be planning suicide.

>>385946383
Did you just compare Gamestop to the police and hospital?

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>>385954576
Brainlet that doesn't understand taxes detected.

>>385954692
You are right, and there is nothing wrong with tax avoidance. But he isn't technically wrong rich people maximize it via the use of accountants and such, it's simply not worth it for me or the accountant if I pocket another dollar or two.

>>385946327
Criminals and emergencies don't take holidays off

>mfw I worked on every holiday but christmas for two years because I was afraid that I'd get fewer shifts if I said no
Fuck Max Hamburgare.

>>385954949
No, anything you purchase on the clock to use on the clock is an expense.
The best is if you travel for work, because it's anything while you're traveling since you have to be away from home during that time.

>>385955074
Depends.
I drive for a living so I can write off a shit ton for gas. I save like $1500/yr by writing off my gas.

>>385955212
Again, I'm not saying we don't do it. Im saying it's probably not 100% optomized for us because we don't have the resources nor is it worth it.

>>385954949
Small additive stuff is an estimate
If you're throwing together a $15000 work party as a CEO or something, that you're going to need to keep track of pretty close to what it actually cost.

How sad

>>385945871
What does it matter the workers are just free to turn the decision over right? It isn't like they are wage slaves...

>>385954887
To feed the military industrial complex?