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Do not buy this. Do not give Nintendo money for this. If you do, it tells Nintendo that you are okay with them continuing blatant anti-consumer practices such as locking basic features and on-disc content behind paywalls. It tells them you are okay with paying full price for and receiving subpar product.
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>>385930551
Already bought.
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>>385930592
Same
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hmm
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>>385930551
>Buy it
>This supports anti consumer bullshit
>Don't buy it
>This supports Nintendo's belief that Metroid is a dead franchise not worth supporting
I just want to explore, platform, and get keys and abilities to unlock more exploring and platforming. FUCK. Why does life gotta be so fucking shitty?
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>buy the game
>pirate the amiibo
it's not rocket science
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>>385930551
Still going to buy it.

Your hyperbole about "basic" features doesn't persuade anyone who looks at what it actually is in-game.
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I've waited too long for a decent looking Metroid game. I'm buying it and will do the same for a decent looking Megaman X.
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>not buying a Metroid game
OP ur a tard
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>>385930551

>He doesn't make his own Amiibos
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>>385931512

That still requires you to pay at least $20 for a programmable NFC chip like that one.
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>>385930551
OP is too retarded to pirate amiibo, which sends a clear message to Nintendo that you like the game but not amiibo.
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>>385930551
Got my pre-order the day it was announced, get fucked OP.
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>>385930551
I can't give nintendo what I don't have.
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I wish this was just coming to Switch so the 3DS could die already.
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>>385930551
Still didn't cancel my pre-order. Go cry yourself to sleep now.
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>>385932227
>phones have nfc
hmmmmmm
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>>385930551
>abloo abloo don't let Nintendo do stuff they and several other companies literally been doing since the N64

Already preordered and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>385933026
>it's ok because other people do it
also
>5th gen
>DLC
?????
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>>385933168
>he never played Majora's Mask

shame
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>>385930551
Don't buy it metroid fags, i'll laugh when your franchise is dead again. Might as well get the amiibo now before Prime 4 requires them to do ANYTHING.
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>>385930551
But I will pirate.
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>>385933407
And this is why I don't want the switch to get hacked. You pirate fags are so cancerous.
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>>385933561
Not long now. I will buy one when it's hacked.
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Well its not on-disc content because the game comes in a cartridge
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>>385933315
the fuck are you talking about
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>>385932227
or just spend a dollar on 10 NFC cards from some chinese website
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>>385934756
Or just copy a save with all the amiibo locked content onto your hacked 3ds.
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>>385930551
Too bad I'm buying this, I want Metroid 5.
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>>385930551

Buy the game and not the amiibo. Any chance for feedback to Nintendo tell them how bad locking features behind amiibos is. Simple.
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>>385933671
Please die already. If you're too poor to afford games just don't get a system.
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>>385938015
Cry more
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>People will defend this
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>>385930551
Preordered op, thanks for reminding me
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>>385932661
>owning a phone
hmmmmmm
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>>385930551
Yep cancelled my preorder. Looks like garbage.
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>>385938271
disgusting
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>>385938612
This.
Actual Metroid fans want the series dead.
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>>385938702

Metroid died with Fusion and you all know it.
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>>385931512
>not just hex-editing the save game to give you all the amiibo unlocks.
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>>385938015
I have money to buy games.
But why would I if I can get for free?
It's a win-win.
I get to play a cool game and not give money to a practice I don't like.
But please, continue to fund my hobbie!
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>>385938682
Nonsense anon it looks pretty good!
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>>385939089
>2.5D
>Cinematics
Gross
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>>385939089
Dude that looks BADASS
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I was planning on pirating it from nintendos servers directly before the amiibo bs was announced. I don't even like metroid and might not even play it. I'm pirating it from eshop because I can.
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>>385932282
Nah it send the message that you don't care about extra content
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>>385939191
Glad to see some other like minded individuals in here.
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>wait 8 years for a game
>dont buy it because it has a feature thats locked
literally kill yourself you game hating grumpus
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>>385939089
Holy shit that looks bad
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>>385939339
>Overwatch
>Dawn of War 2
Pathetic
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>>385930551
I'm buying this and both amiibos and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
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>>385939353
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I have a hacked 3DS
I'll just pirate it
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Aren't there save editors for almost every recent first-party 3DS game? Might as well just hack them in, just like hacking in the Fire Emblem amiibo cast.
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If you're looking for a good Metroid experience in the meantime, I'd highly recommend Hyper Metroid. Been streaming it the last couple days and it's been great.
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>>385939089
Remember when Metroid was about the gameplay and not a bunch of cinematics?
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>>385930551
>Nobody buys it
>Prime 4 cancelled because no interest
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>>385939941
>Teleporters in a fucking Metroid game
>People will defend this
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>>385940059
>boy how I love shitty backtracking!
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>>385940059
Have you fucking played Metroid 2? The areas are set up in a linear fashion so getting back to the surface takes ages.

If they're including more collectibles this time like Zero Mission adding teleports is basically required unless they change the games entire structure from the ground up. Even AM2R had them, because it's a good idea.
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>>385930551
Nice try AM2R fan...
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>>385940168
The entire point of Metroid is to progressively unlock shortcuts/secrets as you increase your upgrade count that make traversing areas much easier to do. Teleporters will only incentivize laziness in developing the world, Metroid II is already pretty linearly set up to begin with.
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>>385930551
I need to preorder the amiibo.
I won't buy them from scalpers.
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>>385940168
backtracking is the entire point of a metroid game
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>>385940054
>sells of the Amiibo will be enough to show Nintendo people have interest in Metroid

BASED SCALPERS!
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>>385930551
Someone screencap these threads so that we can all laugh at the metroid idiots when they cry that their game isn't getting another release for 30 years.

>>385938793
Well then fans should stop making threads asking for new games.
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Sorry, but you have to buy it if you have any hopes of Nintendo developing more Metroid games.

>months later
>Samus returns tanked horribly
>An interviewer is pressuring a Nintendo rep to reveal information about Prime 4
>He passingly admits development has been cancelled
>/v/ shot itself in the foot again
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>>385938271

I'm just disappointed by the shitty "3D" look.

It's not good and it was never good.
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>>385934639
I think he's talking about the memory expansion pack require to play the game. Not sure what his point is since a hardware upgrade isn't DLC. I'd actually go as far to say that's a good practice, since hardware upgrades force you to buy a new console (N3DS, PS4Pro, etc.) in the current market.
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>>385940260
>because it's a good idea.
Wrong. Instead of teleporters there should be naturally integrated shortcuts in the world like every other Metroid game in existence has done.
>B-b-but AM2R did it!
Not an argument.
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>>385940168
>I have never played a Metroid game before
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>>385931148
You could just buy Axiom Verge and its sequel. I mean we can assume AS2 is probably going to be better than the newest shit from the company behind Lords of Shadow and Lords of Shadow 2
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>>385940498
>>385940456
>Duhuh metroid fans shouldnt cry when they get no more games!!!!!
That is EXACTLY what we want. Metroid is gonna fucking die and Prime 4 will be cancelled and I'm so fucking glad
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>>385930551
Allready preordered 2 copies and those sweet amiibos. Try and stop me faggot.
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>>385940402
>>385940639
>b-but shitty level design is the point of a Metroid game!

Nobody liked backtracking in SM, or Fusion, or ZM, or the Prime games.
Backtracking is shit game design.
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>>385940350
Exactly. Since it is so linear, why not have a teleporter to get back to a previous area. There is unlikely to be any map changes that make you want to explore for hidden areas or sequence breaks. A person will mst likely find all the collectables they can get with their current gear, find 2 or 3 that require a power up you don't have yet, and move on. THis just eliminates the player gong through the same corridors again after getting said power up to get to those collectables.
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>Cinematic press X to awesome
>Polygonal artwork over sprites
>Press X to reveal all secrets on screen
>MercurySteam
When I play a Metroid game I expect a game not a cinematic experience like Bayonetta or Uncharted.
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>>385940552
yeah just like how the elevators in the prime games are essentially teleporters because the layout wouldn't make any sense with quick seamless connections

HMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>385938271
>The beautiful spritework of the Metroid 2 died for this
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>>385930551

Just don't buy the Amiibo
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>>385938271
This looks so good
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>>385940816
Mustard pls.
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>>385940657
>this is exactly what WE want
>when countless metroid fans bitch and moan about how neglected their series is
Are you trying to bait or are you just actually retarded?
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>>385940752
>Nobody liked backtracking in SM, or Fusion, or ZM, or the Prime games.
Backtracking was only bad in Prime 2 because the collectibles were gated behind the game's lat upgrade.
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>>385939089
I'm going to kicking so much Metroid ass in this game.
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>>385938271
>anon will keep on posting this exact reply until september
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>>385940783
>why not have a teleporter to get back to a previous area.
Why can't they naturally integrate shortcuts into the world to correspond with Samus' upgrades that she gets in each segment of the game?
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>>385940552
How do you connect the areas in Metroid 2 with shortcuts?

By having unlockable hidden shafts between the core? Traversing those would take literally the same amount of time as the main shaft, the world is vertically stacked. It doesn't solve any problems.

By making the entire thing skippable with the speedbooster? Unless they make major changes to it that one works in one direction, getting from the top to the bottom of the shaft is still a hassle. Having to build up shinesparks casually to move around the world is a bad idea anyway.

Hidden elevators? Those are the same thing as a teleporter, just with different window dressing. It's a doorway that takes you automatically from one room on the map to another one on the other side of the map in an instant.

Metroid 2 is not Super Metroid, even if the fanbase things every game should retroactively be changed to match the latter. It's not designed to be a large interconnected labyrinth, the games built around smaller dungeon-sized labyrinths that ramp up in difficulty. The closest game to Metroid 2 structurally is Echoes, which shockingly enough also provided warp rooms for the player by the end of the game that worked perfectly fine.
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>>385939920

>have to run through an area of spikes just to get to the grapple beam

its shit
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>>385930551
I'm not buying it because the game looks like garbage. Don't really care about the amiibo shit, none of the content seems important.
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>>385939761
>>385939941
Man, I can't wait to play this.
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>>385941140
>Having to build up shinesparks casually to move around the world is a bad idea anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8FksvRyaM
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testie
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>>385930551
Don't even care. I have a OG 3DS XL, so I don't even have amiibo support to begin with.

This game looks great and this hard mode is probably just going to be artificial difficulty shit, like the metroids need a few more missile hits, anyway.
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>>385941079
Because the map is hugely vertical. You are actually descending into the planet's cave systems. How do you not understand this? Shortcuts would inherently need to be vertical in most areas as well, so you'd just end up making elevators, which are functionally the same fucking thing as teleporters in this instance.
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>>385930551
Will buy the game to support Metroid.

Won't buy the Amiibo to disincentive locked content.

Simple.

The problem isn't the game, it's the Amiibos.
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>>385930551
ACfag, enough already, seven years of his nonsense is far beyond what even autists do. Sorry you're poor as fuck and can't afford some figurines that unlock completely optional and useless window dressing that serve no purpose but to brag about.
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Gonna get it though, since more sales means more Metroid
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>>385940816
>like Bayonetta
ACfag pls go
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>>385941521
>Anyone I don't agree with about on Metroid is ACfag
He's not even in this thread.
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>>385941521
No thats not ACfag I think, he did post in this thread though, not exactly subtle either.
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>>385938271
> that level design.

What the fuck.
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>>385941597
That's an ACfag imitator. Don't know why /v/irgins would want to pretend to be him of all shitposters.
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>>385930551
>do not buy the game we've been asking them to make for over a decade. That'll tell them!
Just how much of a goddamned fucking imbecile are you? Fucking kill yourself already, you miserable piece of shit.
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>>385941626
ACfag stands for Assassins Creed fag?
I don't visit Metroid threads.
I WANT TO LICK AND RUB MY FACE ALL OVER THOSE ARMPITS, JESUS CHRIST.
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>>385941626
The guy comparing the game to Uncharted and Bayonetta is either ACfag or an impersonator.
Metroid fans are too quick to assume every shitposter is ACfag but this is literally his gimmick.
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>>385941597
Sorry but if your gameplay is so good you shouldn't need over two hours of garbage to go along with it.
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>>385930551
I'm buying it.
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why does ACfag even show up in metroid threads? Does he even like or play any of the games?
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>>385941789
Armored Core is what the AC means.
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>>385930551
Just pirate the Amiibo codes. Kek. Nintendo doesnt care.
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>>385941626
He's in every Metroid thread no matter what the subject is, just like he's now in every Breath of the Wild thread doing the exact same thing he does in Metroid threads.

>>385941804
Plenty of good games with good gameplay have cutscenes in them. Stop assuming every game with cutscenes is Other M, ACfag, it only makes you look even more retarded than you already are.
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>>385941939
Ohh, thank you!
NOW I WANT TO RUB MY FACE ALL OVER THAT BUTT, YOU'RE KILLING ME.
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>>385941789
No, it's Armored Core fag. He's a shitposter that started going on thread-long rants with himself about how he, as a Metroid Prime fan, was constantly hounded and persecuted by Other M apologists, and his paranoia quickly evolved into a deep hatred of any games with more than 15 minutes of cutscenes, calling them all movie-games, and eventually counting amounts of time passed not putting inputs into a game such as waiting for the enemy's turn in a turn-based game as a "cutscene" and thus calling every turn-based RPGs a movie.
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>>385930551
Thanks for reminding me. Almost forgot about this game. BRB, buying on Amazon
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>>385941757
>the game we've been asking them to make for over a decade
This: >>385938271
is not the game anyone was asking for
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>>385942012
>Plenty of good games with good gameplay have cutscenes in them.
If I go in and rip out everything but the gameplay and most of the game is gone it's not a very good game. Take Super Metroid for example, I can load a save that skips the beginning and there are no cinematic interruptions since I have control over Samus at all times.
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>>385942172
Now I understand all the "all games is a movie" in this thread. Thank you, anon!
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>>385940846
>A 15 year old game looks better
J U S T
U
S
T
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>>385941910
Metroid Other M traumatised him so much that his brain snapped and he's been on a seven-year crusade ever since. He honestly believes that because ten people left positive reviews about it after it first came out the entire 8+ billion population of Earth adores the game and sucks Sakamoto's cock and he'll ignore everything that proves the opposite. He also despises all games that have cutscenes in them, and he also despises:

Graphics
Sound Effects
Character models
Terrain maps
Title Screens
Loading Screens
Options screens
Ending screens
Death
Game overs
Music
Voice acting
Text
Art

Absolutely everything that isn't gameplay. He wants all games ever made to be Dwarf Fortress or Asteroids without being able to die so the games never start and never end.
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>>385941238
If you backflip you can get through losing less than a tank
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>>385931512
>just buy the chip!
>just buy the circle pad pro!
>just buy the charger!
>just buy the screen protector!
>just buy the NES roms for $4!

No thank you, shit practices call for full piracy, if it's even worth to own the system in the first place. My money are for companies who at least try to give a good service in exchange for money.
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>>385942342
He plagues basically every Metroid thread and now BotW threads. If not him there's always another shitposter pretending to be him.

He's more egregious than other shitposters because he's been at this since the release of Other M seven years ago, and has never let up. He's almost single handedly responsible for how terrible Metroids fanbase on /v/ has gotten over the past few years.
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>>385942378
>>385940846
manbabies, please do ys a favor and kys
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>>385940673
You just took out fusion mode for somebody else. Really that for a second. (You) just took away fision mode from someone else. Current year gaming everyone.
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>>385942425
Saying that most people didn't like Other M is revisionism at its finest. People only care about seeing their fapbait acting submissive and running around in her underwear.
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I pre-ordered the special edition + the two amiibo as soon as it became available.

The fuck you gonna do about it, punk?
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>>385942219
Do you also have a version where it removes the section of the Mother Brain fight where you're immobile on the floor while she pummels you to less than a health tank and have to watch the Metroid drain her and refill you and then die? Because you have no control there as well.
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>>385930551
Or just have 1 boy buy it and upload the titlekey, so the rest of us can just download it for free :^)
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Is it a coincidence that people spammed multiple threads a day ushering people not buy Federation Force. Only for there to be people spamming multiple threads a day ushering people not Samus Returns?

Are the threads made by the same people?
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>>385942537
>shit practices call for full piracy
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>>385942219
You can ake out all the cutscenes in Bayo you still get Bayo. Bayo has better gameplay then any Metroid game anyway but you will ignore this.
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>>385942565
This, it's why I can't for Samus Returns to release so I can hang out at /vg/ and not /v/.
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>>385930551
>buy game
>use powersave to unlock features
>alternatively, look up extra content online

The only feature that matters is difficulty anyway, which is strangely included in the first place considering this is Metroid.
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>>385942803
If the gameplay is so good then why does it need over two hours of cutscenes?
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>>385938271
>this is nintendo's reply to the massive feedback about wanting metroid back
>they outsourced it to famed developer that created an universally agreed shit metroidvania game on the very same system
>that art direction in a storied moody franchise
>locked content to boot
It's like irony. It's like someone wrote a script on how to make Nintendo look as bad as possible and cucking its userbase the hardest.
I feel for post-gamecube nintendo fans, I really do. The company shat the bed harder than capcom and almost as hard as konami.
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>>385942587
Case in point. Posting these and claiming that everything that doesn't fit his mindset is "revisionist history". He went into threads where 200+ people were tearing the game apart over how bad it is and told them to their faces that they all loved the game and worshiped Sakamoto and refused to listen to anyone or read any of the other posts.

He's an incredibly dedicated shitposter or he's exactly like Barneyfag with a mind twisted and permanantly damaged over something really retarded.
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>Sorry sir, that gamemode is all sold out
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>>385940456

>posting in metroid threads
>not a metroid fan

Terrible human being.
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>>385939339
You waited 8 years to play a game developed by MercurySteam?

>if it has the same name then the average franchise quality will be the same
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>>385942745
Of course they are, many of them false-flaggers and trolls.
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>>385930551
Don't worry dude, I'll make them lose a bunch of sales, I'll download 1000 copies
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>>385930551
>he doesn't know that /v/ ignores or defends it when Nintendo does something anti-consumer because the board is infested with Nintendies
Poor naive OP.
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>>385932227
There's that new program that allows you to use Amiibo on your sd being worked on. Supposedly functions with luma to make it easier as well. Surely you've got a hacked 3ds right anon?
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>>385943110
>MercurySteam
>Bad
Easy way to spot a shitter who didn't play past chapter 3 in Lord of Shadows.
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>>385942818
*wait
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>>385942979
If I had a fanbase that was as rabidly bipolar and stupid as the Metroid fanbase I'd shit all over them too. They don't even know what they want.
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>>385943083
this is what fucking burns me more than anything

if you want to sell a fusion DLC for a couple bucks, sure, I'm not gonna be happy about it, but I wouldn't be incredibly angry

now we have DLC that is actually sold in limited amounts and people are somehow expected to buy a $30 amiibo pack to get it
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>>385942095
No problem.
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>>385942945
For entertainment and having a steady narrative. They're also all skippable. If Metroid gameplay is so good why does it need unskippable cutscenes that are cinematic?
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>>385943343
>caring about a Hard+ mode at all

What's the point, it's going to be "Enemies now have 2x health and do 2x damage instead of 1.5x like in normal Hard mode", why get angry about it?
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gonna buy it then complain a lot about the amiibo unlocks on Miiverse with verified posts to show that I'm actually someone who cares about the series
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>>385943436
ACfag's response to that is "A good game should tell its story through gameplay without using cutscenes, graphics, voices, text, or anything else that's not gameplay".
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>>385943472
What if people want that? Why should they be punished for wanting to experience something? You can't just handwave content that people care about being locked away by going "who cares". Who cares about video games in the first place, you fucking massive sperg? How dare you even post here instead of doing something productive.
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>>385930551
Just preordered a second copy.
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I want Samus' mommy milk!
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>>385943472
Maybe I want to play the game when enemy's have 2x health and do 2x damage and get a good challenge. Why the fuck do I have to pay 20$ to do that?
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>>385943685
This.
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>>385943612
>oh no, I can't play a mode that exactly like another mode but I can die faster and take twice as long to kill anything otherwise it's exactly what I've played a hundred times before, my life has no meaning!

Call me when they lock the true ending and half the game behind an Amiibo.
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Has anyone actually considered writing nintendo a strongly worded letter?
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Nintendo does all sorts of anti-consumer things worse than this Amiibo stuff, but posters on /v/ always get on Sony and Microsoft's asses about that but then excuse Nintendo for being the same way.
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>>385943436
Anything other than some text at the beginning which should just be in the manual is too much and we all know that Fusion directly led to Other M.
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>>385943823
>defending the business practice of limiting availability of legitimately developed game modes

Nobody gives a fuck if you want to play that mode or not, it shouldn't be arbitrarily limited. There is no reason not to make it available. Go defend some more bullshit like the Shantae Kickstarter, or any of the massive number of games that offer "backer-only" rewards. This is the same shit in a different skin, and you're a dumb fucker for not realizing that it's bad.
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>>385943823
>w-well who gives a FUCK what you want! Your just an idiot! W-Why would you even wanna play that dumb mode! No one wants to play that. You r-retard!!
I can't believe people are defending this.
Do you do it for free?
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>>385944087
Nintendo fans are the most deluded fanbase and will defend literally anything regardless of how bad for them it may be.
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>>385943660
Make sure you don't do the same to the amiibos bro. Remember, every metroid amiibo you own is one less fusion mode for someone else.
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>>385930551
just buy a deck of chinese amiibo cards for like $20 and shut the fuck up
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>>385944393
>It's ok for a company to do on cart DLC because it's easily circumvented
Think you're missing the point as to why people are mad.
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>>385942568
if you're on this board and you're not a manbaby why the FUCK would you come here? no seriously what are you even coming here for
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>>385938271
This looks fine. But /v/ is the contrarian board who thinks the original n64 zeldas look better too.
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>>385944587
No, it's ""acceptable"" because that's fucking capitalism, Nintendo isn't some special exception. Everyone's doing shit like this nowadays and they aren't going to suddenly stop if this game sold bad because of it, because the fact of it failing due to the amiibo content is never ever going to reach their ears or even occur to them personally. THEY don't think they're doing something bad, WE know they are. If there are ways to circumvent it easily though, then it's not that big a deal, suck it the fuck up and just appreciate there is an easy route at all, dumbfuck

/v/ is a microcosm of bad opinions, and for the record it has sent Nintendo several collages of support so lmao what are the fucking odds they'd think we have any problems with them?
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>>385945043
It's not the graphics, it's the melee counter system that people are upset about.
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>>385943914
I'm at the corporate questions on their site, but not sure what category expressing my concern on amiibo content would fall under. PR since it seems anti-consumer? Piracy since there are better alternatives?
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>>385945043
>the orange-blue helix is flipped

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>385945078
>It's ok because other companies are doing it
Remember when Nintendo were the 'good guys' and they were the ones who 'did DLC right with Mario Kart 8'?
Good times, good times.
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>>385944075
See, as expected
>>385943606
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>>385930551

I'm gonna buy it and I'm gonna enjoy it.
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>>385945125
Why?
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>>385930551
are you butthurt because they c&d the copyright infringing game

yeah you probably are
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>>385944087
Sory that I don't give a shit about a mode that's exactly like another mode but you die slightly faster and enemies die slightly slower. Maybe you should save your outrage for more important things.
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>>385945250
Half of Mario Kart 8's vanilla roster is the fucking koopalings. I don't know why people consider 8's DLC to be doing it right when the original roster sucks so much.
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>>385945285
>He thinks this is an argument
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>>385945414
They think it's an instant win button, which it partially is, but it's also the melee attack people have been asking for Samus to have for years until they suddenly stopped asking after Other M

>>385945480
Maybe you should save your retardation for other sites kiddo
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>>385945414
Because "cinematic experience you're forced to do it Other M OMG Metroid shouldn't be doing anything other than shooting and jumping I want Super Metroid 2.0".
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>>385930551
but I already pre ordered the european legacy edition and the amiibos, fellow ameritard.
How does it feel to be left out?
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>>385930551
fuck off and die.
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>>385945414
People think it's too easy to do and will trivialize all encounters, plus Metroid has always been about shooting opposed to punching things in the face.
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>>385930551
>this reverse psychology shit
Bravo, Nintendo marketer
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>>385945250
Thanks for putting words in my mouth because I never said it was okay and I never implied it actually was acceptable (see all the quotations?)

It's CONSIDERED normalized at this point, so no "objections" to capitalist practices being applied to THIS game are ever going to get the message of "this is a bad implementation of amiibo content" to Miyamoto or Sakamoto or whoever the fuck-moto.

Appreciate that in the case of Nintendo there are easier alternatives than paying them for bullshit practices. As I said, buy a deck of Amiibo cards from china, suck it up, and get the fuck over it. This shit will only get worse, appreciate the options you have now to bypass the shit everyone else outside of /v/ considers normalized and never gives a second thought.

some people need to go back to brooding in silence cuz brooding loudly isn't accomplishing jack fuck except making it clear who I wouldn't invite to a party.
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>>385940647

Axiom Verge is getting a sequel? First I've heard of it.
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>>385945514
>whining about seven unique and different characters

The Metals and Babies are far more of an affront than the Koopalings.

>>385945521
Never said it was, ye of no intelligence, ACfag is a broken record and you can easily predict exactly what he'll respond with. Also stop trying to imitate him, have some self-respect.
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>>385940647
Axiom Vergr was fun through most of it, but the way the game expects you to do certain things towards the end and the final boss left a really bad taste in my mouth about it.
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>>385945542
>I don't want to hear your opinion go away and leave me my safe space!

When half the game and the real ending are behind an Amiibo paywall then you'll have a reason to be upset, and so would I. Slightly Harder Mode mkII is not something to be angry over.
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>>385945327
>I'm gonna enjoy it.

>Metroid game with teleporters and a melee counter
>Enjoy
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Buy the game, pirate the DLC.

It's that or Metroid dies for good.
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>>385946014
>Metroid dies for good.
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>385946103
If you're not a fan of Metroid, why do you care about this game?
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>>385930551
nintenbros have been fine with that for ages, though

they are fine with let's players getting sued and losing their livelihood for literally no reason

they are fine with subpar technology and mountains of shovelware in exchange for maybe 3 good games that are rehashes of last gen's games

they are fine with paying through the nose for garbage peripherals

they are fine with needing to buy expensive figurines to unlock new game plus

just give it up, nintenbros are a lost cause, Nintendo will stay afloat by stealing their autism bux, and I am perfectly fine with leaving them to their little world while the rest of us play real games.
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>>385946012
>Metroid game with teleporters

So every Matroid game ever made?
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>>385930551
Im gonna Pirate it
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>>385946321
The only Metroid game I can think of with teleporters is Metroid Prime 3.
The other ones were either linear or had organically interconnected worlds.
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>>385946320
When Microsoft and Sony copy Nintendo their fans are perfectly fine with it, too. And they've been demanding Nintendo IPs be put onto Xboxes and Playstations for years.
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>>385946225
I am a fan of Metroid, what I'm not a fan of is over casualized trash. There's nothing wrong with having the series die with the little dignity it has left.
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>>385945949
Yes it fucking is something to be angry over you mentally stunted piece of fuck. Holy shit you can't be this retarded. This is EXACTLY how things always go for companies.

>company pushes to normalize more costs for the consumer getting the same thing they were getting before
>consumers try to resist that
>some consumers don't care
>companies keep pushing, slowly
>eventually higher costs to the consumer become normalized

Now it's happening with amiibo DLC, which is shit that would have been in the game F O R F R E E years earlier. The more people who are complacent about it, the more it becomes an issue, because Nintendo starts learning that they can get away with it. Look at the fucking BotW DLC with its Hard mode and its "extra story features". The only reason that DLC is PARTIALLY okay is because it's actually available to people and likely wouldn't have been in the game otherwise. The difference with Samus Returns is that this IS content that would have been in the game otherwise, and it's also locked behind a scarcely produced physical item, so even if people DO want it they can't even get it. Not only is Nintendo pushing to squeeze more money out of consumers, they aren't even allowing their consumers to spend that money in the first place, which is one of the most retarded situations I can imagine but has somehow become reality.

Fuck off already. You don't get to tell us what to be concerned about. If you don't have a problem with it, then don't fucking talk down to the people who do as if you're somehow correct when all you're doing is trying to grandstand and assume the moral high ground that you don't actually have. You're an idiot who's supporting a company screwing over its customers twice over and you don't belong here. Fucking get out.
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>>385946320
>they are fine with let's players getting sued and losing their livelihood for literally no reason

This really is fine though
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>>385946479
We already had Other M and Federation Force. There's no going down after that.
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>>385946434
Elevators serve the same purpose as teleporters and Samus' gunship, moving from one part of the world to another.
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>>385946479
Metroid is a casual franchise though?

The best game in the series is also the easiest
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>>385946597
Fusion's not the easiest, it's actually the hardest.
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>>385946509
You do know you can post and have your post be seen without using smug anime pictures, right? Anything you say becomes far less important when you need to resort to being exactly like what you accuse others of being.
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>>385946568
Elevators in Metroid are little more than doors. They only let you enter an adjacent room. The only difference between the two is that using an elevator comes with a new tileset.
They're definitely not Castlevania-style teleporters, which let you go anywhere in the game world regardless of proximity.
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>>385946675
I was referring to Super Metroid, what some people consider to be the pinnacle of Metroid and Metroidvanias in general, is probably the easiest or 2nd easiest game in the series.
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>>385946783
You do know you can post and have your post be seen without saying retarded things, right? Anything you say becomes far less important when you need to resort to being exactly like what you accuse others of being.
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>>385946562
Federation Force is miles better than Other M, don't even try comparing the two. At least in FF you're being a badass kicking alien ass and getting shit done unlike in MOM where you're a gimped sniveling crybaby who never resolves any of the plot points.
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Jesus Christ anti Metroid fans out today

It's a fucking costume and an alt mode prolly ad in a few weeks post launch as free dlc. Chill out and be happy game excists
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>>385946675
Prime 2 is harder.
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>>385946868
>Super Metroid the best
>With those floaty controls
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>>385947042
git gud casual GBAbby
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>>385947042
I don't think it's the best (way too floaty for me) but that seems to be the consensus
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>>385946853
Looking at it from an in-game-universe perspecitive, it makes sense for the Chozo to put up teleporters so they could move around SR-388 more easily. Makes one wonder why they didn't do that on their other worlds like Zebes (Tallon IV they specifically said they were abandoning their technology to return to living with nature).
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>>385947096
Lel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8FksvRyaM
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look at this thread the shilling is real holy shit
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>>385947178
Metroid 2 is a linear game, you only visit each area in order. It makes sense to have teleporters in such a game. Teleporters are cancerous to Metroidvania map design though.
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OM samus is a fake shitty clone of samus that almost escaped and got lured back to its creation lab by the programmed 'return' code which her brain interprets as the baby's cry.

it was an experiment to create a living feeling clone of samus that could then be used to operate her unique armor on behalf of the federation

samus doesn't turn her heat suit on because her fake memories of being okay with adam's bullshit and somehow respecting him for no reason, are stronger than her actual personal free will of which she has little.

the clone breaks down into tears and is overly emotional because it's just a blank slate woman, not the hero of Zebes/whatever. She's scared of Ridley because she doesn't have many vivid memories of the original samus' battles with him.

The original pitch of OM was "exploring the feelings of a woman called Samus", not specifically THE Samus but a woman named Samus.

It only makes sense to assume she is a failed or incomplete clone since One, she's like a foot shorter and not muscular, and Two, she has that piece of shit birthmark that the real Samus never had.

If they show her at the end of SR and she has that fucking mole I swear to god.

the real samus hasn't been seen since the end of Fusion
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>>385946871
>I don't agree with you so you're retarded nyah!

Stop talking like a ten-year-old on the school playground.
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>>385947383
I don't agree with fucking shills, whether they're paid or not. Get off my board and go try to convince Reddit or whoever the fuck else that this is an okay business practice. Maybe you'll get lucky and they won't call you out.
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>>385946012
Backtracking in Metroid 2 is particularly dreadful and the fact that you're trying to spin faster navigation as a negative is frankly appalling to me.
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Why are people getting so triggered over teleporters in Metroid II which is a very segmented and linear game? Is it just so people can shitpost about the game because I don't get it.
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>>385947342
Why is it "cancerous"? It's simply another means of getting around. If you don't want to use them then don't, not everyone who likes Metroid also likes going back through the same area six times.
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>>385930551
>hard mode is unlockable regularly in-game
>a fucking alt costume
>art collection at 240p
>music through the 3DS' speakers
Yeah, totally worth not buying the game over. You guys just look for anything to get mad about.
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>>385947503
>if you don't agree with me then you're a shill nyah!

And now you're sounding like a ten-year-old on 4chan, throwing around meme words in a desperate attempt to vent your rage.
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Is there a single thing this board doesn't hate besides shitty PC indies?
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>>385943914
Decided on "corporate social responsibility" since it's described as general customer service and practices. Here's what I wrote for the help ticket:
>I'm concerned about some of the amiibo functionality for the upcoming Metroid title, Samus Returns. I've loved Metroid for fifteen years and played nearly every title in the series. Some of these amiibo required unlocks, such as the art gallery, sound test, and Fusion Hard Mode (a new difficulty setting) were all standard features to be unlocked in previous titles, usually by beating the game or transferring a save with the Fusion suit over to Prime 1. I'm still amazed the original Metroid for NES was unlocked by finishing Zero Mission, but now to get these features that were once a reward for playing or finishing the game, I'm expected to pay an extra $12 per amiibo at least to unlock one of each. This just doesn't seem right. I'm thrilled we're getting more mainline Metroid games, but torn on these amiibo locked features causing me to spend more rather than play more. Please consider having these features as unlocks the amiibo simply unlock early, rather than being mandatory. Thanks
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>>385947619
Then why are you playing a Metroid game?
Backtracking is one of the most iconic parts of the genre. Applying your powerups to get around quickly is the most enjoyable parts about a Metroid game - why do you think they're such a popular target for speedrunners? Teleporters trivialize this.
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>>385947913
>Teleporters trivialize this.
Hmm....
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>>385947745

>hard mode is unlockable regularly in-game

Wrong. You need to beat the game once AND use the amiibo.
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>>385947503
>I don't agree with fucking shills, whether they're paid or not
>shills
>whether they're paid or not
I think what you meant to say is that you're a retard that gets angry for no reason and speed buzzwords he doesn't even know the definition of.
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>>385948014
Wrong. Fusion mode is just hard mode with a cosmetic skin
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>>385947995
I hope you're not implying either of those games have map design (or even simple level design) on par with Super Metroid.
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>people praise ori all the time
>refund is after 2 hours because it's pretentious artsy shit that's 100% style over substance

>play momodora instead
>have the most fun I've had in a long time
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>>385948014
Thats fucking wrong, though. You're thinking of Fusion mode (ie; the fucking skin, pretty much).
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>>385948071
Do we have a source on this? Fusion Hard mode sounds like the extra damage mode unlocked by the Ganondorf amiibo for Twilight Princess HD.
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>>385948072
Looks pretty good to me.
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>>385947745
Why do you care so much about other people buying the game shill?
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>>385948793
Is anyone buying the game a shill?
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>>385947913
Having to go through the same areas six times for no reason other than to get to another area to use your new abilities for one missile tank is not good design. I love Metroid games, but the backtracking part can become tiresome no matter how "iconic" it is. Mega Man's disappearing blocks are iconic, too, does that mean they're automatically good?
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Defend this.
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>>385948793
Why do you care so much about people not buying it? You're allowed to present an argument, but I'm not allowed to retort? Then why the fuck are any of us here? What's the point in posting if discussion isn't allowed.

Please fuck off.
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>>385949332
Is it ok if I pirate it?
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>>385949332
I don't mind the melee desu, it's actually a feature i've been wanting in metroid for awhile.
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>>385948182
Fusion mode is 4x damage with the Fusion suit on.
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>>385947615
They're fine with alternate dimensions, but not transporters.
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>>385943472
Do you need shadows in a metroid game? Do you actually NEED them? Perhaps we could lock shaders behind physical limited DLC too.
Do you NEED particle effects, running or shooting sounds? I'm sure you can manage. Who actually does need that sort of thing?

We can technically play the game without those too. Infact I'd argue difficulty options are more important to a game than the aforementioned. Let's just ask nintendo to lock them out!

>actually arguing in favor of removing/locking things with no counterbalance/benefit
You are an apologist. You are dumb.
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>people wait until now to shit on the artstyle

You guys are kind of late
The games going to be good and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>385930551
preordered the special edition along with all the amiibos. feels pretty good to not be a poorfag.
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>>385949045
Everyone is a shill, this is /v/'s newest meme word that means "Everything I hate".
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>>385949118
>Having to go through the same areas six times for no reason other than to get to another area to use your new abilities for one missile tank is not good design.
I disagree. If the platforming is significantly changed by your available powerups upon backtracking, then it becomes even better than an all new room. In that kind of scenario an old challenge has become completely changed by your new powers, and so you get a tangible sense of growth in your power.
Red Tower is one of my favourite single rooms in any game simply because of how much it changes to fit the mood of your advance through the game.
When you first enter it's just a bottomless pit, forcing you down what seems like a point of no return and trapping you for the next several hours. When you finally return with the Ice Beam, it's a triumphant experience to finally be able to conquer the challenge which has kept you confined for so long and finally break out onto the planet's surface. When you return with the Power Bombs and then the Grappling Beam, you have good opportunity to apply those abilities in meaningful ways too. That's even before you get to sequence breaking.

For the record, this particular room (which has the most backtracking in the whole game as required by the standard path) only requires that you go through it 4 times, and all of those have new variations.

What I'm getting at is this - a well designed Metroidvania uses its backtracking to contextualize your adventure.
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>>385950110
>f the platforming is significantly changed by your available powerups upon backtracking

In Metroid 2, this is not the case
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>>385949379
What Nintendo is doing with the amiibos is retarded, and you're defending it.
I have too much faith in humanity for me to just believe someone would suck corporate cock like that, so therefore, you are a shill. Now please leave and go back to your boss. I think your pay may be coming up
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>>385950215
We agree. Metroid II is a funny one, because all the platforming powerups hit you early. Spider Ball can take you nearly anywhere and that's the second powerup you pick up.

But then again, Metroid II isn't designed like most Metroidvanias. It's a fairly linear and straightforward hunt and destroy mission. If you're following that kind of design, then go ahead and use teleporters.
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Gonna buy this shit on release day, probably get the metroid tank amiibo too. I'm too excited for this game.
Locking that stuff behind the amiibo is still dumb though
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Can someone actually explain why the melee system is bad beyond saying "it's shit"?
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>>385950312
The only worthwhile thing is the optional hard mode. You already get a hard mode in the base game. The amiibo one is four times damage, when literally everyone here in any thread about difficulty says that having enemies do more damage and take less damage is a lazy way to do a hard mode. Every else the amiibo offer is negligible.

If you don't want people to disagree with you, maybe 4chan, or the internet in general, isn't the right place for you.
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>>385930551
>anti-consumer practices
This term has lost all of its meaning here.
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>>385950880
People will say it's "easy" or whatever but since when do Metroid enemies even pose a threat? You can literally mow down with missiles or the screw attack, and it's not like you still can't do that if you want to.
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>>385948793
Do you even know what the word shill means?
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I genuinely have two copies pre-ordered.
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>>385950312
So if someone has a different opinion than you they're automatically a shill? That's dumb as hell. Let them defend the reason. Sucks that hard mode+ is unlock with amiibo only but there's still hard mode. Part of me thinks it's still just hard mode with a new skin but do we even know what's going to be in other hard mode?
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When will Cody stop making these threads?
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>>385950880
It depends oh how it is balanced. If it's OP as fuck it'll game the game laughably easy because you could just smack everything for free. I'm going to try it out, and if I find it way too OP I'll just avoid using it unless they made enemies that require the melee to kill them.
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you know what it's time for
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>>385951102
Since the first game
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>>385940982
They were easy to get in Prime 2, you're thinking of Prime 1 where the locations and hints are fucking nonsense.
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>>385949332
Every time I see this game, I want more. I just can't wait for this game.
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>>385951186
If someones opinion is supporting a compony's dumbass decision then yes, I have to believe that since no one in thier right mind would suck corporate dick if they didn't have a crisp 100$ bill in their pocket.
>>385950916
What if I wanted that hard mode? Shouldn't I be able to have it without getting a Mcdonald's toy? Why are you supporting this? You know this is how it starts right? Just wait until they lock maps and characters behind amiibos.
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>>385951630
The first game was only difficult because it didn't restore your health upon dying.
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>>385932569
If the 3DS dies, so does Nintendo you daft fuck
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>>385951689
This, can't wait for Metroid 5 to come to the 3DS.
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>>385951660
No in Prime 1 you can get every single one before the Phazon suit, half of the ones in Prime 2 are gated behind the Light Suit which you don't get until the very end.
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Samus has no good games! She was created and exists solely to be a big bimbo whore for men to ogle and masturbate to! What a depraved dirty slut bitch, Metroid is a joke of a series and Samus is the big assed big titted punchline!
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>>385951660
Prime 1 let you collect all of them except 1 before fighting Omega Pirate. You can easily collect half of them without going out of your way.
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Oh no! The soundtrack! And... A costume!

WOE IS ME WHAT IS THE INDUSTRY COMING TOOOOOO
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>>385951552
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>>385951679
>What if I wanted that hard mode? Shouldn't I be able to have it without getting a Mcdonald's toy?
Not really. You're not exactly entitled to it. Maybe if they advertised that it came with the game but then it didn't, then I'd see a reason to say you should get it, but they very plainly advertise that it only comes with the amiibo.
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>>385951805
make a samus erp thread, this is a metroid thread.
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>>385951689
>new mainline Pokemon coming to the Switch next year
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>>385951552
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I'll tell you something

I'm fucking jaded by the most recent Metroid games and I was ridiculously disappointed with them, so with this game I will pirate the fuck out it and play through it, and only when I'm done and think it was a fun and worthwhile game I will buy it, because I loved the franchise in the past and would like to support it, but I won't look back to give a fuck if it's awful like Federation Force or Other M
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>>385951816
You can get that one without the Phazon Suit if you have enough Energy Tanks and are fast enough.
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>>385951961
>new mainline Pokémon flopping next year

Are you literally incapable of coherent thought?
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>>385930551
>Anti consumer blah blah

Take off the tinfoil hat Anon
You're going crazy. You could be much happier if you gave less of a shit about pointless shit like this and politics
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>>385952074
You need all twelve energy tanks IIRC. Or a wallcrawl. Either way it's somewhat impractical.
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>>385951552
time for tubes
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>>385951689

They're moving all of their efforts to the Switch. We have a mainline Pokemon game coming soon and the 3DS is obviously on its last legs. Samus Returns and Ultra SuMo are its final major titles.
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>>385951849
>>385952220
has the tubes maym been referenced in official nintendo media?
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>>385952145
>Pokemon
>flopping
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>>385951961
What the fuck is this image?
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>>385952335
If you don't know Keksandra, you need to leave.
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>>385951851
>Your not entitled to something the game has unless you buy a limited Mcdonald toy
Im done. Thanks for this conversation dumbass, it really helped me see just how far Mario has his joystick shoved up your ass. Can't wait to see you defend amiibos in the future. Fucktard.
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>>385951910
Every Metroid thread is a Samus erp thread because that's what the games were made for
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>>385946012
I-I can choose n-not to use the teleporters a-and I w-will find I way to beat the enemies without m-meelee attacks, d-does that please you, m'lady?
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>>385952416
>reddit inspired board goer tells people to leave
highly ironic
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>>385951552
DELICIOUS CANDY
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>>385930551
Bought the limited edition.
Bought the Samus Returns twin pack Amiibo
Already own Samus and ZSS amiibo
Got a friend to buy the regular version of Samus Returns just so I can have the free t-shirt it comes with.

I have an OG 3DSXL and no e-reader so i'm still locked out of the functionality.

Don't give a single fuck.
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>>385946012
I'll just play on hard mode :^)
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>>385951679
>If someones opinion is supporting a compony's dumbass decision then yes, I have to believe that since no one in thier right mind would suck corporate dick if they didn't have a crisp 100$ bill in their pocket.
I have to believe you are some kind of retard to think that
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>>385949918
It's hilarious how you people will flail around grabbing at random things to compare to something completely unrelated.
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I'm skeptical about this game, and I will violently throw it in the garbage if it doesn't reach the level of quality that AM2R did. A pox on the fanboys who think this is somehow being entitled.
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>>385952474
They advertise that it doesn't come with the game, though. You can't say you're entitled to something when they flat out tell you that it doesn't come with your purchase.

>can I have a burger please?
>sure, you want fries with that for an extra dollar?
>no thanks
>okay, here's your burger
>where are my fries?
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Then don't buy the amiibo? Buying the game itself doesn't tell Nintendo that consumers are alright with locked data, but buying the amiibo does.
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>>385952331
>Switch
>Succeding
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>>385953143
>Nintendo's best selling console
>Failing
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>>385953143
>five million sales in five months
>hasn't even had its first holiday sale yet
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>>385951849
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>>385953201
>Switch
>Ever being a Nintendo bestseller
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>>385953250
PS4 had 4 million in two weeks.
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>When you care about the Squishy Metroid and an actually decent Samus amiibo to replace the Leaning Tower of Aran more than hard mode

Having a Metroid amiibo is more exciting, senpai.
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>>385953397
Yeah, in holiday season with no games. By the Switch's first Holiday it'll have Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, and Xenoblade, not to mention ports of games a lot of people didn't to play.
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>>385953250
>Ever reaching this number in the US
>No third party support

Congrats son, you just got yourself another weeb machine just like the Vita.
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>>385953013
In this fictional store tho, you would ALWAYS gotten the fries with the burger, and now suddenly they're asking for a dollar with that? Thats bs, and your saying it's okay because they tell you upfront "give us money for it now" bs, dude.
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>>385953638
>the Ps4 has no games despite having titles like Horizon, Uncharted, Killzone, and many other multiplats exclusive to sony consoles like TLOU

>but the Switch is somehow exempt from this despite being in the exact same situation
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>>385953783
>>the Ps4 has no games despite having titles like Horizon, Uncharted, Killzone, and many other multiplats exclusive to sony consoles like TLOU
I wasn't aware that all of those games were out at launch.
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>>385953921
I wasn't aware Xenoblade was out right now, along with the new Metroid Prime and Pokemon.
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>>385953760
Its there store. They can do what they want. Store up prices all the time.
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>>385930551

I did buy the game Anon, but I jumped over the pay wall.
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>always do the opposite of what /v/ says
Hmmm
I'll buy it
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>>385954029
Can you fucking read? In >>385953638 I said "by the Switch's first holiday" not "right fucking now". I also only listed games that will actually be out by that time, and I didn't even mention Metroid or Pokemon, you fucking retard.
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>>385953638
>in holiday season
This is such a retarded argument. The Switch sold out in march. If it released during the holidays it would've just sold out faster. Thats how ravage Nintendo fans are, Nintendo systems will ALWAYS sell out, no matter what.
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>>385930551
>don't support Nintendo over this bad practice
>let me not mention that every company does this

No reason to start a "shitpost vs Nintendo" thread when there's thousands of those a week.

Try bolstering your point with more examples and better details on why this is a problem and why people should get behind you.

57/100

See me after class.
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>>385954318
but those games were out by the time of the holidays for the Ps4, since they were technically still in the PS4's launch window.

Who cares if it was a few years later, since you get to include Metroid Prime which hasn't even been shown yet.
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>>385954419
>but those games were out by the time of the holidays for the Ps4, since they were technically still in the PS4's launch window
They were not. Horizon came out late last year.
>Who cares if it was a few years later, since you get to include Metroid Prime which hasn't even been shown yet.
I literally did not mention Metroid.
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>>385954367
Gave me a good chuckle
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>>385930551

im gonna buy it, but i wont buy those faggy amiibos.
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>>385954560
>They were not. Horizon came out late last year.
That's still in the launch window. Just like how Breath of the wild was released in the WiiU's launch window, according to Nintendo fans.
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>>385954687
Maybe retarded Nintendo fans, but not according to me. I didn't mention it, so why act like I did?
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>>385954560
Not the anon you're replying to but Horizon came out this year at the end of February.
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>>385953358
>Shortest time period
>Not launched in holiday season
Does this mean the switch sells better than the Wii?
That's pretty impressive
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>>385954796
>Maybe retarded Nintendo fans, but not according to me
Unfortunately every single one of them argued otherwise. Their launch window got to be as long as they wanted as long as it fit their argument, so you have to own up for that.

With that in mind, one of the points I was making was that, even now, Nintendo fans still say that the PS4 doesn't have games. So how is the Switch somehow an exception when it has a similar, if not worse, lineup?
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>>385954964
At this point this is obviously bait. Thanks for proving that Sony fans can't stand the sight of another company doing even remotely well with our flipping their shit. I'm ignoring you from here on.

>>385954326
That's why it'll sell well in the holiday, though. The rabid fans will have already had the better part of a year to snatch them up, so now the parents will actually be able to buy some Switches for their kids.
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>>385954964
>some other people said something that I can't prove was actually said so now you have to answer for them
not that anon but what the fuck
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>>385955228
>Thanks for proving that Sony fans
Well well, you couldn't go 5 seconds without trying to strawman your opponent as a sony supporter. What a pity.

>>385955419
You and him have the opportunity to show that you don't support their argument, but you don't want to do that. It's easier to label all of your opponents are "those evil sony supporters", just like the anon above you just did.
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>>385955534
but you were arguing for sony and saying that nintendo needs to be compared at the same level as them as payback for what nintendo fans said about the ps4. it's easy to see how you can come off as a sony fanboy.
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>>385955908
>but you were arguing for sony
Hold up there partner. That implies that I was defending them. You'll notice, however, that I never even used the word "good" anywhere in the same sentence with sony or their products. I'm simply asking for a level playing field where goalposts don't shift. The point is that the original poster said that the Ps4 has no games. "at launch" was a damage control maneuver to imply that he ever said it did have games anytime after that. I simply want to know why games like Bloodborne, Uncharted, TLOU, and etc don't count in his world. I'm not saying they're good, but you have to have a reason to discard all of these games, especially if you're going to defend the Switch, whose games are the exact same quality as said PS4 titles. You can't have any bias or hypocrisy here.
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>>385955419
>>385955908
It's another one of ACfag's tactics, he'll accuse you of constantly attacking Sony because to him everyone who argues against him is the same person and so you're responsible for everything.
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>>385942537
impressive retardation
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>>385956197
thanks. I'll keep that in mind and ignore him from now on.
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>>385953783
Why did you include Horizon if it wasn't a launch title?
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>>385956197
>ACfag hates cinematics
>ACfag defends sony

MAKE UP YOUR MIND
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>>385953783
Except Switch has games to play, because I'm playing them you retard.
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>>385956862
And the 60 million playing games on the Ps4 are wrong?
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>>385956665
Ask him, not me, I'm simply saying what he does. Accusing everyone of being mean to Sony is part of his seven-year routine.
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>>385956929
Why can't two groups of people be right at the same time. They're not connected at all or mutually exclusive.
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>people complain when you have to buy a $12-$20 toy to unlock a costume in SR
>the same people don't complain when you had to buy a handheld a game and a cable to unlock the exact same costume in Prime 1
Am I getting rused?
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>>385957315
That's what I was telling the other poster. if the Switch has games, he can't suddenly turn around and accuse the Ps4 or Xbox by extention of having zero games. It's the same BS fanboys argue around when it comes to paid online.

>dude sony would never do paid online, Microsoft is full of greedy suits
>sony implements paid online
>DUDE IT'S JUST 5 BUCKS A MONTH, STOP BEING POOR

>dude Nintendo would never do paid online, they care for the customer
>Nintendo implements paid online
>DUDE IT'S ONLY 2 BUCKS A MONTH! STOP BEING POOR!

And here I'm going "I don't care if it's half a penny a month. I'm not giving you greedy assholes my money when you can't give me a good online service".
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>>385957502
It was bad then, people were just too underaged to raise a stink about it. Now that we know better, it's kind of a good thing that people are complaining. People are exercising that thing you hate so much. What is it called? Ah yes, "basic consumer rights."
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>>385957502
We've had this conversation in these threads before explaining how very different these situations are, look it up
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>>385957502
But it was wrong then too, nobody had the courage to point it out back then.
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>>385957502
It's also a harder difficulty, but hopefully a harder difficulty will be unlocked without it that's not Fusion Mode.

Also, Fusion is another game you can play, not a plastic figure to gain dust.
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>>385957502
Because when you buy another game you get the other game to play. When you buy an amiibo you get a paperweight.
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sure glad im not a metroid fan lol
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>>385957910
It's like any other figurine except it can also unlock cosmetic stuff in a bunch of games
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>>385957787
>Fusion
>Game
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>>385958442
Nice try imposter. The REAL Acfag would only bring that up if a game had more than 1 hour of cutscenes.

Although Fusion has a completely different problem with forced tutorials and handholding, ala Adam locking you in a room and stopping all sequence breaking.

0/10 see me after class.
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>>385958596
>with forced tutorials
It's ok when Prime does it though right?
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>>385958752
1. It wasn't okay. Ask any fan of Prime, and they'd tell you that the tutorial was something they want skipped.

2. Fusion was the equivalent of that tutorial that lasted until the end of the game.
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>>385958752
>>385958442
How the fuck were those "tutorials"?
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>>385933026
I'm buying the game nonetheless, but the "Oh, others have done this shitty practice" excuse doesn't make the practice any less shitty.
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>>385957534
I think he was comparing the Switch during its first holiday to the PS4 during its first holiday, not the Switch now to the PS4 now.
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>>385959542
Even then, the Ps4 had a similar launch lineup. Yes, lots of multiplats, but it also had exclusives like Knack and Infamous: Second Son. Did I like them? No, I think they're hot garbage, but they're exclusives nonetheless.

http://archive.is/gP5uq

Archived incase you don't want to give IGN clicks.
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>>385930948
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>>385938271
>implying Metroid was ever about the combat save for Fusion
Admit it, you just tanked hits and spammed rockets

That flat level design is questionable though
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>>385930551
OK
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>>385959970
I don't think they're quite on par with Zelda and Mario. Infamous is up there, but not quite at the same level.
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>>385957682
>We've had this conversation in these threads before explaining how very different these situations are

all bullshit
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>>385960737
>I don't think they're quite on par with Zelda and Mario
I'd say they're on the exact same level, but that's more so because I hate AAA games in general. Hooray, I get the privilege of paying 60 bucks for a game that already has 40 bucks of DLC at launch. Thank goodness, I was afraid I was getting a complete product for a moment.
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>>385960870
I posted a huge paragraph about it, kill yourself
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>>385960870
The Fusion suit in Prime was purely cosmetic and added nothing more than a texture change. Metroid Fusion was also an actual game that I could play and provided long term value opposed to an amiibo which is scan and done. The amiibo in this case is also locking away content that is pertinent to gameplay because it's an entire difficulty mode that is otherwise unobtainable.
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>>385960893
>Knack, a new IP, is on par in selling power with Zelda and Mario
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>>385961101
(You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bJcrP35-k
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>>385939276
>A successfully executed counter AUTO-AIMS to the enemy after the hit, and if you shoot right after, it INSTA-KILLS the enemy.
>Enemies flash before performing an attack to telegraph it for you
>The range and window are huge
>Bosses are designed around this counter

Fuck man, it really is a 1, 2, insta-win combo.
Metroid has never had a ton of depth to its combat, but this really just strips it bare.
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>>385961101
I never said it matched the selling power. I was more referring to the quality, and since half the games listed struggle to even reach 30 FPS, let alone 60......
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>>385961071
Have they said Fusion Mode is the only hard mode though? I feel like we'll get something like that, just without the fusion suit or whatever else comes with the mode.
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>>385961543
They've outright said that Fusion Mode is a separate difficulty from what's in the game so even if there is a harder mode available to be unlocked there is still content gating, which is very bad
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>>385961358
Fair enough. Since we were talking about sales, I assumed we were talking about selling power.
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>>385961689
Yeah, I guess I'm trying to be a little optimistic. Hopefully the game turns out fine and this isn't too big of a blow to the games quality.
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>Hopefully the game turns out fine
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>>385961071
SO you don't see no problem in buying two games and a cable for two systems but you see a problem with buying something for 12 dollars?

I don't even want to touch upon how young you kids are that this is a new thing for nintendo and that e-reader doesn't exist
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>>385963410
Guy who did fucking connect Fusion to Prime to unlock the Fusion suit over a decade ago here.

You're a retard. The Fusion suit should have been available in Prime without needing to buy Fusion, but the idea of linking together two games you already own for bonus content is not bad. Amiibos are very different.
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>>385963410
Try actually reading my post.
Fusion is a game and you unlocked something entirely inconsequential to the actual game itself.
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>>385963823

>entirely inconsequential

Nice buzzword for, it doesn't count, and it also cost money, something your argument refuses to touch upon unless it suits your opinion, which is the point of this thread, anons who don't want to spend money on this bitching about Nintendo being a jew, but buying two systems, two games, and a cable is allllright,
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In all seriousness, how many of you play on buying this day one?
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>>385964312
A purely cosmetic addition is entirely inconsequential, how are you arguing that a texture change is the same thing as a gameplay change?

Metroid Fusion and connection cables also have infinite more longevity than an amiibo that will be scanned once. I still play Metroid Fusion to this day, but I don't think I'll be using an amiibo fifteen years from now.
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>actually get pretty far in Castlevania Mirror of Fate HD
>running through the dungeon as Trevor
>have to take a bunch of elevators up and down
>at one point I managed to die in a spike pit, some checkpoint fuckery happened and one elevator ended up in the wrong position
>only way forward is by taking that elevator down, but it's already down and there's no way to call it up again
>after trying every method I can think of to unfuck this sequence, I have to abandon the game at like 85% completion

I sure hope MS won't leave something like a GAME BREAKING BUG in Samus Returns because fuck, this mediocre game has managed to give me some real blue balls.
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>>385964572
Unless you were Japanese Metroid Fusion didn't even HAVE a hard mode though, which still doesn't excuse the absence of one
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Buying it day one, cuck. Stay mad.
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>>385964796
I'm not seeing how this is relevant to there being on cart DLC that directly affects gameplay. Nintendo have already made a difficult for the game and are choosing to lock it behind a paywall, that's not the same as a game not having a hard mode to begin with.
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>>385964572
You keep saying the same thing, but it
doesn't stop it from being true anon, spamming your avatars not going to change the situation or topic of the thread.
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>>385964572
>an amiibo that will be scanned once
>scanned once
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>>385964312
You're thinking of the Fusion suit in Prime as something that certain people would not buy the game without. I doubt there are as many people who refused to buy Prime because of its lack of a fusion suit as there are people who would not buy SR because of the lack of an entire game mode.
The fusion suit is a gift to the fans that supported the series by buying the other game, not a different way to play the game locked being cash-gates. Metroid Prime could've not even had the Fusion suit and you wouldn't be complaining, same goes for SR unless the main game is too easy and fans want something harder.
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>>385965151
Do explain how a cosmetic item and a gameplay alteration are the same thing.
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>>385930551
Everything wrong with /v/ in one thread

kys you contrarian shite
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>>385931148
You can buy it without buying amiibos, you know.
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>>385965719
>You can buy an early access version of it without buying amiibos
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>>385930551
Already pre-ordered.
I'm going to enjoy the game, then I'm going to use NTR to unlock the amiibo content and enjoy that.
Keep crying.
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>>385953358
>entirety of Q4
vs
>MARCH
You are one stupid NeoGA/v/er
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>>385947838
Sonic Mania
>>
>finally get a chance to save a series
>whine over some dumb shit that literally doesn't matter like a retard and kill a good series

Nah fuck off
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>Do explain how a cosmetic item and a gameplay alteration are the same thing.

literally Amiibo, combine the cable and two games and the result is still the same anon, content is still being unlock and you still have to spend money. You still don't have a point anon.
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>>385947838
Kirby.
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>>385939941
>Metroid Fusion is one of if not the best 2d metroid
No actually, i dont.
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>>385966175
>content is still being unlock
Non gameplay related content and gameplay related content are apples and oranges. The Fusion suit in Prime changes absolutely nothing relating to the gameplay but Fusion difficulty literally changes the whole game.
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>remake of a game I've never played or have any interest in
>on the 3DS

No thanks. I don't even care about the amiibo stuff.
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>>385966306
>a player skin doesn't change anything in GAME
>a player skin changes literally the whole game in GAME
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>>385932227
https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-dev-noamii-amiibo-emulation-within-3ds.479017/
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>>385966495
Fusion mode is an entire new difficulty, which has been historically unlocked (the highest difficulty) upon completion of the game in past Metroids.
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>>385966306
Its still locked content you have to pay for you donut.

thread topic >>385930551
, please avatar fag try and keep up
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>>385932227
>what is using cheat devices or programs to just mark the "amiibo scanned" flags.
I don't understand why everyone seems to think you need to spend money either way
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>>385966704
It's also not important content, I don't care about a texture change but I do care about a difficulty change.
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>>385966775
actually since I own a switch I just got an action replay to fool both devices
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>>385930551
Yeah, I'm not buying this game.

The Amiibo on the other hand are a different story. Day 1 preorder as soon as they come up separate from the game.
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>>385966929
How is the romance in the Ar Surge whatever game?
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>>385968252
Ar Nosurge and very good, particularly the purification scenes.
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>>385968393
I heard the Ciel games are required to play, should I do that or can I understand Ar Norsurge without prior knowledge? I'm looking at it as a waifu game, don't know what else to expect.
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>>385968579
Ciel Nosurge should be played beforehand to fully appreciate Ar but it's by no means a requirement, it's mostly background information and various terms you'll miss out on.
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>>385942378
Why is this earth so gay
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>>385930551
Only fucking retards buy games for the 3ds
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anyone looking to play this garbage should pirate it, reminder this garbage is being developed by mercurysteam and during gameplay footage when you die to a boss you respawn right outside the boss room
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>>385964381
>nobody responded

lmfao
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>>385972860
Do you seriously expect people to buy Nutroid? Game won't break 100k copies.
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Just play AM2R. It's a better game anyway.
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>>385964381
>how many of you play on
Play on what?
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>>385973195
How have you played SR already?
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>>385973195
Go shill your cringy dA fanfic bootleg elsewhere.
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>>385930551
How about- and I know this might be crazy, but how about you just don't buy the Amiibo, that shows Nintendo we want Metroid games and not Amiibos
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>>385930551
I don't care
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>>385930551
stay buttblasted paper mario fag
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