Why haven't you preordered 10 copies of Sonic Mania yet?

I don't even know if it's getting a physical release over here. Switch, EU, does anyone know? I was simply set on getting it digitally.

Jeez I only need one. I'd like to support them more but I need to eat.

Because I need a new laptop

>>385928938
it's not getting a physical release at all at least for the foreseeable future

Switch and PC for me.

>>385928757
Got one collectors for PS4 and one digital for Switch. Will double dip if the make official physical copies later.

I actually am double-dipping at launch.

Will there be PC mods?

>>385928938
Collector's Edition wasn't even a physical release, not to mention it's only 16 pound.

>>385928938
No physical release anywhere but I might hold off on getting it for the switch for a bit because it's being ported to switch by a third party
>>385929154
Maybe but it'd be awhile, retro engine wasn't made with modding in mind

>>385929001
>>385929162
Wasn't there a release with a box and download code inside? That's what I mean by 'physical', even though it's not really one.

>>385929234
>I might hold off on getting it for the switch for a bit because it's being ported to switch by a third party
I see. Well, guess I'll wait for reviews and player impressions about the port. I hope it's good though, playing it on a handheld in HD would be the best.

>>385929269
Collector's Edition is up for Xbox one only, if you're already getting the game I'm sure you could sell on the code. On amazon at least.

>>385929234
I see it becoming a popular SHC target.

Hopefully there's a way to dump the sprite tables.

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>>385928757
Because I don't like classic Sonic, it's boring.
Hold --> to win isn't fun.

>>385929601
I bet you have only played Green Hill Zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5iLGWqg4M
>Not posting it as the thread theme
>>385929601
>Going into a thread about a game you don't like

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>>385929601
>Ironically using the argument "hold right to win"

>>385928757
Because best sonic is gone away https://youtu.be/kXszwP3sSKc

>>385929880
Mega Man, now there's a game for the classy platformer fan with an appreciation for challenge borne from effective level design and thoughtful enemies.

>>385928757
That's some sexy artwork, OP.

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>>385929735
>That one joke Romhack where the level layout is changed to be flat as well to fit the "Hold Right to Win" meme

>>385928757
Because Sonic was never good. Even the 2D games had major flaws that prevented them from being good.

>>385930020
t. ign

>>385930020
Go home Arin

>>385930020
>spotted the underage trying to fit in on /v/

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>>385929737
From Sonic 1 yeah, it's true.
But I finished 2 and 3 with my friends this year.
You see, I didn't said that was a bad game, I don't like. I can see the appeal of it, really.

>>385929824
I don't dislike this game, I am interested in it, actually. Mainly to see the reactions from old fans.
Aside being boring to play, I like the visuals. I just answered the OP.

>>385929880
But it is.

>>385930062
>>385930091
>>385930162
In all seriousness, how come nobody ever realizes Mario games are closer to hold right to win than Sonic games?

The only times Mario games were ever hard is when the level design is romhack-tier in the recent games

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>>385929601
>>385929735
this badnik is killing tons of hold righters and basically, you are fucking stupid.

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>>385930020

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>The Switch, Xbox One and PS4 versions of the Collector's Edition are sold out on Amazon
How good for them.

Current favorite Mania track. It's got that menace I miss from shit like Sonic 1's Robotnik theme.

https://youtu.be/u37jvd3bP-k

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Name a comfier Sonic game.

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>>385930196
>Hold right to win
>In Sonic 1 of all things
Alright, you're allowed to have your opinion, even if you're reasoning for it is fucking retarded.

>>385928757
I'm double dipping, I have collectors on order for PC and Switch but I just want one of them, the other'll be digital

I was hoping PC would come out before the Switch version does, but Nintendo seems to be hitting the button for releases at like 9PM PST the night before and Sega seems to be releasing their stuff on Steam midday on release day.

>>385930196
You seriously finished 3 too? Did you not go after the emeralds at all????

Will therr not be physical editions?

I'd really like to own physical on Switch

>>385930301
I love how the mini boss theme has a bit of a Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog flavor.

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Why is advance 3 so luckluster compared to the first 2 advance games

>>385930196
>But I finished 2 and 3
Just by holding right? That's impossible.

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>>385930325
that was easy

Has anyone ever bought 10 copies of a game?

>>385930275
I think it's because Mario is more acrobatic and the focus (expressed best in levels later in their games and the difficulty has ramped a bit) of the games lends to the split notions.

Mario can get fairly technical with its platforming requiring Mario's nimble jumping to make it through where Sonic is about timing short and long jumps with rolls to maintain forward momentum.

Both offer challenge though so idk what people's glitch is over which is most hold right to win.

>>385930275
Both Mario and Crash are praised way more than Sonic for level design when they are more "Hold right to win" than Sonic ever was. Especially games like Mario 3, Super Mario World and Crash 2.

The games are great, definitely. But there's no point sitting around and pretending that Sonic is way more basic or lacking just because the modern titles are weaker. Speaking of which, Forces actually looks like it could be good. An Adventure game with actually good gameplay would be decent to see.

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>>385930325
This or Sky Patrol

>>385930506
I'd have agreed with you, had it not been for the Genesis D-pad completely undermining the experience. I used to plug in a Quick Shot joystick.

>>385930275
mario doesn't flow as nicely as sonic with all it's slopes and jumps
sonic also has way more complex physics compared to mario

>>385930483
bad level design that takes full use of the screen crunch which is odd considering Advance 1 & 2 aren't as bad with that.

>>385930508
Yes.

>>385930483
Because it's horribly padded and suffers heavily from Dimps syndrome.
Getting the Emeralds in that game is a nightmare.
Had a god-tier ost though.

>>385930483
Team-up mechanic feels forced, shit like Chao collection, etc.

>>385929154
>>385929234
what the hell would you need to mod on Sonic Mania?

>>385930361
No, you didn't understood.
I only played the first Act from Sonic 1.
The hold right to win was my experince with 2 and 3.

>>385930429
Not only me, I was playing with 2 friends.
And no, I didn't get the emeralds. My friends did it.

>>385930504
Of course it was just not doing this, but the majority, the vast majority of the game for what I played and saw, was this.

>>385930062
>>385930091
>>385930162
>>385930285
Not an argument

>Sonic 1
Level design too restrictive to go fast
Samey enemies

>Sonic 2
Better but still prevents you from going fast, final bosses are unnecessarily hard (no rings so can't get hit even once between both fights)

>Sonic CD
Awkward level design, annoying to travel between time periods, only one (1) pit in the entire game--save these stretches built for time travel, easily the slowest Sonic game (and some of these "stretches" are just repeated loops that don't actually take you anywhere--just sloppy design)

>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
The best out of the classic games but still not up to snuff. Sandopolis (at least as Knuckles) is incredibly tedious, too many collectables (Chaos and Super Emeralds), there's no reason to play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles exist basically since his shield double jump is useless

>>385930483
Probably due to getting overambitious as fuck trying to cram in as much content without actually putting any effort into balancing it

It would've been better than Advance 2 with better level design and a better partner system

>>385928757
What exactly should I be excited for? Don't tell me to Google it. I asked here. What's new here?

>>385930740
Big dick mode.

>>385930740
Custom levels or sprites, I guess.

>>385930508

I have for Jet Set Radio. Kept buying HD copies for friends.

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>>385930196
>But I finished 2 and 3 with my friends this year.
And you did it by holding right, did you?

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>>385930742
>Not only me, I was playing with 2 friends.
>And no, I didn't get the emeralds. My friends did it.

>>385930483
Three acts again when two would've sufficed.
The team-up shit felt forced.
Getting the emeralds was a fucking hassle.
Chaos were in stupid locations that go against how you should be playing the game normally.
Though in spite of all that, the music was fantastic. If I could see any level get remade in something like Mania, it would be either Chaos Angel or Cyber Track.

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>>385930819
What a fuckin scrub, he can't even play kid's games without complaining about them on /v/

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HURRY UP AND PRE ORDER YOUR DIGITAL COPY THEY'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF STOCK HOLY FUCK

>>385930928
Not an argument

>>385930980
That implies you had one to begin with

>>385930819
>go fast
>going fast
His whole argument is based on 'gotta go fast'. Did you take the meme seriously, anon?

>>385930819
I agree with some points on CD but the rest of your post is trash m8

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>>385930819
>his shield double jump is useless
That right there is concrete proof you're a retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. It's by far the best skill the three have. Just because its use doesn't immediately jump out at you doesn't make it useless

>>385928757
Chris will buy enough copies to compensate for us all

>>385928757
Is Vanilla in it? She's the only reason I'm a Sonic fan. Cream is also acceptable.

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>>385930819
>>Sonic 1
>Level design too restrictive to go fast
>Samey enemies
I agree, but it's the first game in the series.

>>Sonic 2

>Better but still prevents you from going fast, final bosses are unnecessarily hard (no rings so can't get hit even once between both fights)
Going fast is only hard in two zones, and the final boss isn't even hard, it's scripted as fuck.
>>Sonic CD
>Awkward level design, annoying to travel between time periods, only one (1) pit in the entire game--save these stretches built for time travel, easily the slowest Sonic game (and some of these "stretches" are just repeated loops that don't actually take you anywhere--just sloppy design)
I agree.
>>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>The best out of the classic games but still not up to snuff. Sandopolis (at least as Knuckles) is incredibly tedious,
True, but it's only one zone.
>too many collectables (Chaos and Super Emeralds),
Are you serious?
>there's no reason to play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles exist basically since his shield double jump is useless
Wrong, not only is he the fastest, the insta-shield can break some bosses, and the electric shield and bubble shield are incredibly useful.

Sounds like you're just bad at video games.

>>385930980
>Sonic 3
Alright then, as a base game it has seven emeralds, as does Knuckles. The two of them together has 14, which makes perfect sense.

Sonic's insta-shield allows for skips, sequence breaks and shortcuts in boss fights, along with more defensive play to allow you to maintain speed, so the lack of usage on your part is more down to skills than it's own application.

>No reason to play as Sonic
Except for going fast, getting Super Sonic and playing the game to its fullest. There's no reason to play as Sonic in Adventure since Tails' stages are faster by that logic.

>>385931021
see >>385930980

>>385931024
If you weren't underage you'd know that when Sonic came out it was billed as "fast". All the cartoons presented him as that way, the comics did, commercials did, that's how Sonic was pushed. Long before Sonic X and internet memes spewing GOTTA GO FAST there was "the fastest thing alive", "the blue blur", etc.

YO STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR A SECOND

I'm playing Sonic CD and even though I got both time stones from both acts of Palm Tree panic, when Act 3 started up it was Bad Future. What the fuck, last time I remember being able to create Act 3 good futures with the time stones. Did I do something wrong?

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today I will remind them

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>>385930819
>here's no reason to play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles exist basically since his shield double jump is useless

Git good. The insta shield absolutely wrecks badniks and bosses. You just don't know how to use it.

>>385931318
See >>385931021

>>385930819
>Sonic 1
Yes, level design is more focused on platforming, admittedly it's the weakest but not "bad" by any means, and Green Hill Zone and Starlight Zone have plenty of speedy moments. Not a bad game. It's a good game, in fact.

>Sonic 2
This shit is fast as fuck are you high? Speed IS the reward, not something that you are rewarded FOR. And the final boss is supposed to be hard, you should have more than enough lives and continues to handle it. This game is piss easy.

>Sonic CD
Never played

>Sonic 3&K
Yes Sandopolis is too long.
Yes there are a lot of collectables but the reward is by far the greatest out of any game with how broken Hyper Sonic is.
>Shield is useless
Oh, you're just a shitter. Now I know I've wasted my time.

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>>385930325
>4 great games
>Decent sized 3D environment to fuck around in
>Great music
Playing it with my brother made some fun, comfy Friday nights
https://youtu.be/PRlTFHhE52I

>>385931341
Only when you get all the Time Stones every future turns good.

>>385931253
Get out.

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>>385931439
>tfw no Sonic Jam Headcannon version

>>385931341
that's not how it fucking works, you have to destroy the robot generator and metal sonic projector thing.

>>385930508
Scalpers

>>385931253
She hasn't been in a game since Sonic Rush

>>385930325
Are the Master System games worth playing through? I got a bit through 1 and 2 and they seemed okay but definitely weaker than the Genesis games.

I still really want to play Tails Adventure, I should just beat all 3 before Mania releases.

>>385930819
Sonic 1 is a much slower game than the rest, this is known.

>Better but still prevents you from going fast, final bosses are unnecessarily hard (no rings so can't get hit even once between both fights)

It's retardedly easy to go fast through most of the stages in Sonic 2, the first two zones are honestly dull because of how easy going fast is in them. Also the final boss is brain dead easy if you just think about how to fight him for a minute.

> there's no reason to play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles exist basically since his shield double jump is useless

Play the Complete romhack, it makes Sonic's flash better for defending from projectiles and for hitting enemies surrounded with spikes.

Also Sandpolis and Marble Garden catch too much shit, Sandpolis zone 2 is a ton of fun when the game starts throwing multiple timed elements at you, and Marble Garden's fly top gimmick is actually pretty cool.

>>385931439
>music can't loop right
>strange jump soundbyte
>Sonic 2 slowdown

Why do little things bug me?

>>385931562
Metal Sonic Projector doesn't do anything but help for getting the 2011 Achievement. Only the Robot Generator is necessary for the good ending

>>385931562
just the generators to make it good
the projections don't do anything i think but there is an achievement for destroying them and the generators

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>>385931604
It's hard if you're trying to kill him fast. Play conservative and you have no reason to get hit
Metal sonic isn't even worth mentioning. I only recently found out he could shoot spikes out as he rolls because I always killed him that fast

>>385931674
>>385931646
god dammit, i've been wasting all that time then for nothing.

>>385930285
Is this real?

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>>385930740
Nigger Sonic

>>385932092
haha you said nigger

>>385931780
When I was a kid I wrote down the attacks metal sonic would do so I could memorize them and beat him, it wasn't until years later that I realized that spin dashing to opposite ends of the boss arena for the giant robot could make him easily beatable. Something about Sonic 2 keeps it so fun despite it being exceedingly easy.

>>385932092
Amy's design has always been so dumb, she doesn't mesh well at all with any of the other characters.

>>385930275
because Mario is slower so you appreciate the level design while with Sonic you're blasting through everything. It's ironic that Sonic gets shit when it actually offers different ways to get to the goal depending on how you play the level which Mario lacks. Sonic (3&K in particular) is much more open ended with how you complete acts than Mario World.

when is the leaker going to post the next nigger sonic leak?

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What other remixed classic zones do you want/hope to see in Mania?
>Hydrocity Zone
>Marina Madness
>Hilltop Zone

>>385931141
Did you know that the insta shield as we know it is busted? It should have the ability to reflect projectiles, it was readded in the complete hack

>>385932092
Amy is cute cute cute!
>>385932270
lava reef

>>385932270
Thanks doc

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I love the real low poly look of sonic the fighters

>>385932208
It's the dress. The fact she wears clothes at all contradicts the streaking main trio. Without them she's a girl Sonic with Tails' 3 little hair tufts on her forehead

Besides, Sonic and Eggman are the only classic characters that share Naoto Ohshima as a designer. The rest were done by other people iirc

>>385932270
I feel like Hydrocity is a shoe-in because it's such a loved zone, but I'd also love to see Mystic Cave or Botanic Base.

>>385932270
Hydrocity is confirmed yo, accidentally leaked.

>>385932318
Japanese released called it the W Spin Attack (Or Double Spin Attack). It's not a defensive move, it's an attack. That's why it makes minced meat out of bosses

>>385932396
I have a soft spot for stylized low poly renders in general. I haven't played it, but I love the way Megaman Legends looks

>>385932396
Sonic the Fighters has a great art style agreed.

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would you play a new version of Sonic R with better controls and more characters/levels?

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>>385932584
>>385932676

>>385930819
>Not an argument
Neither is "Sonic was never good".

>Level design too restrictive to go fast
Classic Sonic was not about going fast.
Would you level this complaint at any other game, like Mega Man or something?
>Samey enemies
No, they are all fairly different. Certain enemies appear in multiple levels though.

>Better but still prevents you from going fast
Again, not really about going fast. You have fallen for the meme.
Sonic 2 also allows you to go fast in the vast majority of its zones if you know the level layouts half-decently anyway, so you're just straight up wrong.
>final bosses are unnecessarily hard
LOL

>only one (1) pit in the entire game
How is this an issue? Most people would consider this a good thing.
>save these stretches built for time travel, easily the slowest Sonic game
Sonic 1 is slower, and stop thinking Sonic was always "gotta go fast". That was just marketing, you chump.

>Sandopolis (at least as Knuckles) is incredibly tedious
You only mean act 2, and that's only 1 out of something like 25 acts in the game. Is it really that big a deal that a single act in the entire game drags on just a little too long?
>too many collectables (Chaos and Super Emeralds)
The special stage is enjoyable, and just 7 collectibles for the entirety of Sonic 3 & Knuckles would have been too few. You'd have all the emeralds in no time with little effort and then for the rest of the game giant rings would have been pointless.
Besides that, you don't actually have to get any of the super emeralds to get the good ending or fight the final boss. It's totally optional.
>there's no reason to play as Sonic when Tails and Knuckles exist basically since his shield double jump is useless
The insta-shield has tons of use, and the shield double jumps are crazy good. You have literally no idea what you are talking about. Also, Sonic is the only character that gets to fight the last boss.

>>385932681
Sure why not, but only if you got Richard Jacques back to do the soundtrack again. Plus that female vocalist that sang the songs.

>>385932318
Really? Damn. I don't consider knuckles and sonic to be comparable because they have different routes but that'd make tails even more obsolete

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>>385932681
>Better controls
Yeah sure
>More characters
The original, Classic roster is fine. Though maybe replace Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles with real characters
>More levels
The lack of levels was what killed the game

>>385932681
nah, I could go for more ASRT though

>>385932823
I forget, can you get to the final boss if you have all the emeralds, but without all the super emeralds?

>>385930742
>omg game is so easy
>didn't even bother to get the chaos emeralds.

>>385932882
I liked all the metal versions of the characters you unlock

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Post romhacks

>>385933034
I didn't said it was easy, I said it was boring.
Why would I want prolong something that I aren't ejoying?

>>385932681
Fuck yeah. The only downside to Sonic R for me was lack of levels. There's plenty of characters and I think it controls fine (most scrubs don't know you can lean with the R and L triggers, but hey, most people are fucking retarded).

>>385933053
That one's one of my favorites to replay Sonic 1 and 2 with. The bubble shield works wonders for Labyrinth.

>>385933008
Yes. Even if you cannot transform during stages because you've visited the super emerald room, you still get to fight the final boss.

>>385930325
I think it would be neat if there was a Sonic 1 or 2 SMS level in Mania.

>>385933008
You can get to Doomsday Zone if you've gotten all the Chaos Emeralds in general, you're just locked out of Super Sonic in normal play

>>385933045
I liked Metal Knuckles' design, but literally whos to pad out the game isn't really that appealing. Keep the roster concise and simple or at least include established characters

I can only imagine how a Classic Cream/playable Vanilla would add to such a game

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>>385933053
>Being able to switch between the characters on the fly
>They all play like their old selves, no unnecessary gimmicks involving them

This is what Sonic Heroes should've been

>>385930819
Just an observation: maybe you should open with an argument if you want actual argument responses. If you just say "game is shit" then you are gonna get responses of the same caliber.

>>385933238
You only want Vanilla to be playable so can jerk it to her ass you perv

>>385933238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53zzmRT9TvI
He's so OP

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>>385933358
Yes

But I figure since Cream would be like fucking 3 or some shit in the Classic timeline if Iizuka didn't retcon it or something that it would make more sense a younger Vanilla would be playable instead just to placate my autism

>>385933134
It could still have better controls. Just give me less clunky as fuck movement at low speeds. Aside from Amy and Eggman, these characters are not vehicles. The slow turning at low speeds just feels wrong.

Also, the game is stupidly unbalanced. Once you've unlocked Super Sonic, good fucking luck beating him with Tails Doll or Eggrobo or whatever.
This would need fixing as well for the game to be good.

>>385928757
>pre-ordered it across all 4 platforms
>gifted it here 3 times
>will probably gift it two more times on launch day

I've done my part

I know it's not related to mania but watching that sonic r stuff I gotta admit that I really like the design of that robot tails thing and would like to own one irl but all the literal actual children I see meme about it almost ruin it for me

>>385933980
Kids treat Tails Doll like some autist creepypasta thing.
>Every character was Tails Doll
>Tails Doll started screaming and blood went everywhere
>He asked me "Can you feel the sunshine?"

>>385928757
Becuase the more threads I see of this game the more I'm think it's gonna suck.

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WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT PLATFORM SHOULD I GET MANIA ON?
>Switch (Portability)
>PS4
>Steam (portable in a sense)

>>385934183
If you can wait for the Switch version then get that, but if you wanna play it the moment it comes out just get it on Steam.

>>385934183
PC for future hacks and mods
switch if you want to shit while playing mania

>>385934183
Switch and PC. PS4 if you really want the themes and avatars.

>>385932584
>It's not a defensive move, it's an attack
It's both. Sonic can't be hit during its short curation. You can use it to travel through attacks without taking damage.

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>>385933980
Even when I was young and autistic I could never understand what was so creepy about Tails Doll.

>>385934149
It's so lame. I think it looks really charming design, it looks like it was put together in like 15 minutes by robotnik trying to remember what that fox thing that's always behind sonic looks like

>>385934281
>switch if you want to shit while playing mania
Just wear a diaper if your desire is to shit while playing a new Sonic game.

>>385928757
>preordering a digital only game

>>385934394
I feel like if there was another Sonic footracing game they'd probably add like the Chaotix or The Boys to it instead of robot Tails and Knuckles.

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>>385934530
>preordering a game

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>>385934471
the words "diaper" and "Sonic" should never be uttered in the same sentence

>>385934158
You're judging the game's prospective quality by how often threads are made, and not the presence of promising information and lack of any worrying information?

>>385934183
I'm getting in on PC, and if it gets a physical release down the line, I'll get it on Switch too

>>385934382
Yeah I dunno either man, like I said I really like the design of it and would probably get a little plush toy of it if they sold them
>>385934542
I love how THE BOYS are a thing yeah they'd probably replace all the robots minus metal with them

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>>385934623
Nothing wrong with preordering GOTY

>>385934624
Don't complain to me. I'm not the scat fetishist who really wants to take a shit while playing Mania.

>>385934623
its cheaper now than if you wait for release though

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>>385934158
that's because you're a contrarian with a boner for seeing games with a lot of hype crash and burn. That's just a symptom of going on /v/ too much.

>>385934719
Nack, Bark and Bean really need to be in more things. Such a dysfunctional group that would probably fight with the Chaotix a lot.

>>385934719
Try Etsy or something similar and maybe someone can custom make one for you if you want it bad enough.

>>385934819
Not complaining, just stating facts.

>>385934853
sonic team probably forgot they even exist

>>385934952
Well at least Taxman and Stealth remember THOSE DUDES

>>385934930
I already bought sonic, robotnik and ROSY I'm not dying for more anytime soon. But thanks

>>385930740
PC tards are autistic and need ANYTHING to justify their shitty platform.

Do we know the Mirage Saloon and Studiopolis minibosses yet? Or are they gonna be the Hard Boiled Heavies too?

It would be dope if Fang and the rest showed up

>>385935067
>I already bought sonic, robotnik and ROSY I'm not dying for more anytime soon. But thanks

Neat. Post pics.

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Hello children, I am now to be known as god to you all. Do not question me.

>>385935147
The only mini-boss they've shown is the Green Hill one.
And we have that spoiler that maybe The Boys are gonna be the main boss of Mirage Saloon.

>>385935179
I haven't found a place to put them yet maybe if I find a nice spot

>>385931439
Full 3d Sonic game in Sonic World engine when?

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>>385935209
jokes on you I'm an atheist

>>385935404
Still one of the worst things I have ever seen.

>>385935404
>Sonic Boom fan shit in a Mania thread
O U T

i dont like 2d shit

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>>385935451
December 23, 1998

>>385928757
Because I grew up with an SNES.

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>>385935451
>Full 3d Sonic game in Sonic World engine when?

1998?

Sonic World was actually an early version of Sonic Adventure all along. Yuji Naka admitted in an interview they used it as a test to see how Sonic would work in 3D.

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>>385935537
Sonic is like women, they're better with one less dimension

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>>385935404

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>>385935486 Listen here, fuck off 12 year. I am your God and you shall worship me.

>>385934183
If you have Switch I would get Switch, I only have PS4

>>385932481
Completely yes. She feels over designed, plus she's just a pink Sonic. She's honestly really goddamn bad.

>>385935404
This shit looks dumb as fuck yo.

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>>385935798 Get that fetish shit out of here faggot.

>>385935794
plus Iizuka was director for both

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>>385935798
I know the source of this, but let's not derail the thread here. Sonic Mania is a PURE game, no fetish stuff allowed

>>385928757
Not enough instant death pits. Weird inertia based physics.

It's like they're trying to break the better direction that DIMPS took the series in.

>>385928757
Only pre ordered 4 copies, because it's only on 4 platforms.

>>385935670
>>385935794

I guess, but I mean same low poly. On the Saturn too

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Its good to see someone competent rip through GHZ act 1 like that. Though act 2 where the devs let loose I feel the level design falls apart a bit.

https://youtu.be/9D1_qYKIVmM

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>>385935827
I like classic Amy's design. I prefer her Adventure-onward one, but I can appreciate what she used to be because it fits the classic era better. I can understand completely where the discrepancies come from though

She always had a sort of Minnie Mouse appeal to me

>>385932007
Yes, because Arin is a big fat fucking hack of a human

>>385936069 Okay, I kek'd

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>>385935889
>>385935992
just a reaction

>>385936246 WHAT THE FUCK DID WE TELL YOU?

>>385934183
I'm getting the Switch Version, Mania is pretty much a perfect fit for the console.

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>>385936112
I know what you mean, I was just being a cheeky cunt.

I'd love a Sonic Jam 2 that had an updated Sonic World made by fans who know what they're doing.

>>385928757
Because I am so sick of 2D pixelated platformers, indie game or not

>>385936386 I'm just tired of the pixels. Overused concept.

>>385936372
Imagine a low-poly Starlight Zone with gameplay like Sonic Utopia. Taxman, please

>>385936462
I'm just tired of video games, can another crash happen?

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>>385935992
Exploit this

>>385936129
Nice to see someone actually using the drop dash in footage. The footage is pretty old though, things are in different places then they are when Act 2 actually got it's new track.

>>385936129
Dude took more of his time in act 1, in the glitch showcase at SDCC they were at the end of act 2 in 1 minute

>>385936729
act 2*

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>>385928757
I am a poorfag

>>385936683
Anyone know the controls for the drop dash? Is the peelout in the game?

>>385936559
Could you make it transparent and animated? That'd be sweet.

>>385936891
The same way you did the insta-shield. Hold jump again when mid-air and you charge up the drop dash.

Where's the new vid, Cybershell?

>>385936559
this >>385936903 I don't want to take the time and make it transparent

>>385936301
>>385936462
What did I tell you several threads ago about learning to quote properly, newfag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5iLGWqg4M Try this at 1.25 speed.

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>>385936526
I was going to avoid invoking Utopia because I know how divisive that game is and that's not a hill I'm ready to die on right now, but yeah, Utopia is the only thing that gives me that same feeling that Sonic World did only much more refined. I hope that Lange and friends are able to get a new demo out soon that addresses all the issues people brought up in the first one.

But yeah, it would be neat if Sega hired them to do a new Sonic World thing for a hypothetical Jam 2. It could even be like the original Sonic World in that it's testing the waters to see how people would react to a Utopia type of 3D Sonic. It could all come full circle. ...yeah, okay, that's never going to happen, but it would be pretty perfect if it did.

>>385937135 I do not know you. I've been on this board for 2 years. Not including when I started 4chan.

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>>385936559

>>385932481
>Sonic and Eggman are the only classic characters that share Naoto Ohshima as a designer.
There's also Ricky, Picky, Rocky, Pocky, Pecky, and Cucky.
Also the 15 badniks of Sonic the Hedgehog, if you'd count them as characters.

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>>385936559
Oh Knux has well been exploited already.

>>385937136
It does make it feel more like the original track, but I still totally love the 90s slow jam vibe it's got going. Can't wait to hear the most likely hype and fast Act 2 theme.

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>>385928757
I'm never pre-ordering a Sonic game after I did with Sonic 06

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>>385937136
>not 0.5

>>385937196
>I know how divisive that game is
It really isn't, but Unleashedfag always screams and cries whenever anyone mentions it.

>>385937260
I wouldn't really count either considering they aren't major characters

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>>385937229
Okay mate but what the fuck is up with your quoting shit. Are you on a phone or something?

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>>385937136
1.25 is too fast, watch it at 1.10

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dumb question but what exactly is sonic mania?

>>385937196
I heard that there's gonna be a more actual zone like build instead of the super open Green Hill at the next SAGE.

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>>385937260
>and Cucky

>>385937502
Sonic 4 Episode III

>>385937502
The actual sequel to Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

>>385937396
Of course they are, they're the whole reason Sonic is going through levels and you see them every time you defeat an enemy. You also free a ton of them at the end of each zone.

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>>385936301
sorry

>>385928757
Because preorder is cancer and nearly 30 years of bad sonic games educated me on never buying one of them on launch ever again. also...50% rehashed shit? fuck no!

>>385937502
Throwback to classic Sonic games with their physics and general level design philosophy. Has high quality sprite work and music.

>>385937660 Better.

>>385929601
>Classic Sonic sucks, it's just hold right to win!
>Classic Sonic sucks, I never have time to react to obstacles!
Egoraptor should be murdered

>>385937591
>>385937556
>>385937682
so it's a brand new game? ok now I'm interested

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>>385937370
I dunno man, every time I see it brought up people are pretty quick to shit on it. Not just this thread, but others too.

>>385937505
I asked Lange in a thread a few weeks back and he said he might be able to get it to SAGE but no promises. I do know it's going to be much more substantial and less of a proof of concept though, yeah.

>>385937921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCYU7UwyQs

>>385937921
Yes, a completely new game.
60% remixed fan favorite stages from the classic games and 40% completely brand new stages.

>>385937921
The catch is that the majority of the game's levels are old ones from previous games BUT they're all completely remade from the ground up and the Act 2's are significantly different from the Act 1's. The rest of the levels are all brand new. If you're still on board after that, then you're probably in for a good time.

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Who is he?

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>>385937196
>>385937505
>Sonic Utopia with Sonic Robo Blast 2-tier level design
This is basically all I need.

>>385938172
Also it's only 20 dollars, 18 right now as a pre-order price.

>>385938172
sure but I can't find it anywhere

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>>385937502
Sonic Mania is a 2017 video game releasing on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Microsoft Windows and Nintendo Switch.
On July 22nd, 2016, during the Sonic the Hedgehog 25th Anniversary event, it was officially announced (later alongside "Sonic Forces", previously Project Sonic 2017) that Sonic the Hedgehog would release a brand new video game in Spring 2017 titled "Sonic Mania".
Sonic Mania is a game that replicates the gameplay, aesthetic, characterization, world, and generally all of what made the original Sonic the Hedgehog 1991-1995 series including Sonic the Hedgehog (1991), Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (1992), Sonic the Hedgehog CD (1993), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (1994), Sonic and Knuckles *second half of Sonic the Hedgehog 3* (1994) and Knuckles' Chaotix (1995). Sonic Mania, due to not being on the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis, features a free color palette, expanded graphics, wide-screen, high-definition musics and more. You can play as Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, just as the original series featured them as playable in new iterations.

In Sonic Mania, the game is bent on "remixing" old zones (as of now, Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Stardust Speedway, Flying Battery), as well creating new zones for a new experience (Mirage Saloon, Studiopolis). The game was delayed to Summer 2017 during March, and in January, during a Nintendo Switch Event, was announced for the platform. On May 29th, 2017, during a Release Trailer, it was announced that Sonic Mania would be released on August 15th, 2017.

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>>385937982

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>>385937982

>>385938380 This is a blue board. Stop it.

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>>385936559
First thing that came to my mind. I'm retarded.

>>385938603
that's great anon

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Did somebody ask for an exploitable gif?

>>385937248
>>385938426

Rip off

>>385937752
So Megaman is shit too I reckon. it's just trial and error!

>>385938373
Saturn*

>>385938225
SRB2 really makes up for its technical shortcomings with excellent level design. And playing Sonic with KB+M feels surprisingly good. (I mean, I guess it IS the Doom engine after all.) An underrated fangame tbqh. It's a shame it can't do loops and other Sonic-y set pieces very well.

But yeah, I think Utopia's going that route with its level design, which is fantastic.

>>385938661
Correct those last few frames (the excess red around the muzzle) and we're good

>>385938358
You can buy it on any of the online stores for any console.

where THE FUCK can I preorder this thing? I want to buy it for the Switch

yurop here

AMY WHEN

>>385938789
Sorry mate but the game is Digital Only. Just get it off the Switch eShop store so you can get it on Day 1, Minute 1.

>>385938782
Switch preorders aren't up anywhere for the standard edition, and since it's being handled by a third party (Tantalus), I'm worried that we won't be able to preorder or preload, or worse, have it delayed.

>>385938789
It's digital only, so if you can't do it from the eShop, you'll need to wait for it to release

>>385928757
i dont even know ten people

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>>385938714
NO MEGAMAN IS AMAZING! X IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!

>>385928757

Currently i have no job so I'll have to pirate it but I'll probably pay for a copy whenever I can.

>>385938862
>>385938874
ahhhhhhhh, digital only

why ;-;

>>385938869
It may be who knows. I'm getting it on Steam so I know I'm getting it the day it comes out.

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>>385938776
Whoops, forgot to turn off frame stack. This should be fixed

>>385938981
I got it gifted on Steam, but somebody gave me a Switch too and I managed to scrounge up 20 dollarydoos and want to play Mania on my Switch day 1. Hoping nothing goes wrong and preloads go up soon.

>>385936129
take a look at 3:21... what the fuck was that? he just teleported.

>>385939040
Nice. Will be using this in the future, thanks.

>>385939239
He's climbing the pieces of the burning bridge that's falling

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>>385939040
Thank you kindly!

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>>385937982

>>385939147
Nice S3&K Death Egg gimmick, dudes.

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>>385930742
>wow this game is shit because I left most of the experience to other people

Because I don't preorder games at all.

>>385939345
No, he teleported. I knew I shouldn't have expected this game to be good.

>>385939239
The burning bridge still had collision. Not sure if that's intentional; the video is from March.

>>385939524
Alright fine, i wasn't supposed to reveal this but my wife's grandson works at Head Cannon and he told me Sonic can use the chaos control in this game

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>>385938225
>Sonic Robo Blast 2
I fucking love that game and have since I first played it like in 2000. Too bad many in the team are incompetent assholes. Mystic, the current leader is a touhou cunt who shits up the forums specifically. SSNTails, former leader is gone now. Any hope of 2.2 is mostly lost and probably won't release even for the 20th anniversary of SRB2 in April 2018.

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>>385937982

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>>385939040
Cropped it, this may be better for shitposting

>>385939524
I think he ran up the burning logs still falling it just looked janky in that build

>>385939762
>Any hope of 2.2 is mostly lost
Please no. I need 2.2 desperately.

>>385939856
Either or is fine

Probably was easier for you since I essentially had to cut the background out of the individual frames

>>385939863
It'd probably be better if you could stand on them but had to jump.

>>385939901
What are they playing? Sonic 2 or Adventure 2 Battle?

>>385939937
Don't worry, I tried doing that too, and it was quite difficult. I hate how there's some kind of artifacting in the colors, it was a bitch to do with that in the way. Thankfully you did it faster than I.

I only need one.

>>385939384
Just realized his victory pose is from the Sonic 1 beta

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>>385939901
fuck i love tribes
and i still play it

What's the consensus on Sonic BTS and ATS? I thought they were alright.

>>385939901
Game dev team that have no idea what to make anymore to please everyone or a ragtag group of complete classic Sonic fanlords that know exactly what to make

>>385940068
It was the fault of whoever recorded the gif, if the original sprites were used it wouldn't have them

>>385940152
Headcanon are some raging mega autists. It's great

>>385940163
I'm only aware of BtS and Spark. It's honestly pretty weak

>>385940163
Sonic feels like he's made of lead. Level design is kinda meh. Music was phenomenal.

>>385939901
Let's see
>Assholes who made shit like Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 and Unleashit
And on the right side...
>Bros from an old Sonic forum who were making fangames like Sonic Megamix and Retro during the early 00s around the same time as other shit like Robo Blast 2 and Time Attacked You don't fucking remember Time Attacked. It's been fifteen years.

>>385940163
Levels are way too long and boring.
That fucking music though.

>>385930483
I don't know how many times I ran into an enemy, got crushed because I ran into a wall only to have a floating platform crunch me, or took a jump that led into a bottomless pit, simply because Dimps didn't remotely account for the screen size and how little we see coming ahead in this game.

>>385940163
Wanted to play it thinking it was gonna be fucking awesome because everyone was calling it the "best fangame series ever" when it came out holy shit it's on it's fourth anniversary this saturday.
Anyway, it was one of my least favorite fangames. Playing as Sonic feels like a hunk of shit, and even though Tails is slightly better, the game had really weak level design and was redundant around certain places. The soundtrack is kickass and I downloaded the albums, but the game was so lackluster I'd rather play empty blocky shit like BlitzSonic Engine from 2006.

>>385940163
Like most people have said, level design had zero consideration put into it in terms of what makes classic Sonic zones enjoyable. There was some enjoyable parts, but for the most part it was mediocre.

Loved the music, still listen to the OST occasionally

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>>385940740
>fourth anniversary this saturday
Sorry, I meant fifth anniversary. Time really flies.

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>tfw Forces outsells it so Sega keeps pushing in that direction
do we honestly give up on the series at that point?

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>>385937982

>>385941078
If you wanna wallow in your own self-made misery, go ahead.

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>>385941078
>tfw Forces flops because everyone's buying Super Mario Odyssey

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he really does run up the little flames, not teleporting in my opinion

>>385941103
what the fuck

>>385941206
>Mario helps Sonic
pottery

>finally got over-ear headphones
https://youtu.be/21ZSrPIFETg
IT SOUNDS SO FUCKING GOOD HOLY SHIT
Send me classic sonic music i should listen to PLEASE

>>385941206
>tfw Mania flops because everyone's buying Mario + Rabbids

>>385928757
>Why haven't you preordered 10 copies of Sonic Mania yet?

Because they are not releasing it on Saturn.

>>385941078
I don't see how, honestly. Mania's coming out with hype and people awaiting it every single day. Forces doesn't have a firm release date yet and it's inevitably going for a Winter release, sandwiched by a multitude of major triple-A games from every other side, including Super Mario Odyssey. While only generating casual interest and pretty much disgusting most others half the time with questionable choices. The Sonic community is almost practically up in pitchforks and torches half the time with every other new announcement.

Winter releases are always hell for some games, but Sonic Forces only has multi-plat and the casual interest in a character creator as positives for it. Maybe a return to the Boost formula too if you really like that gameplay style but I feel like even if it's early game, what little we've seen of the level design absolutely lets the entire thing down.

>>385941206
Well Forces is coming out like a month after Odyssey, so who knows.

>>385941342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IKCAzA-IKI

>>385941342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwmWZMp8L8Y

>>385941242
looks like you can run right up the flaming bridge parts as they fall and it still treats them as a flat surface but they shouldn't have collision after a certain point like the ledges that break away

>>385941513
If nothing else, Chaotix had fantastic music.

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>>385930508

If you count digital releases and steam gifts I've probably bought like 40 copies of Nights Into Dreams.

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>this thread

>>385941342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9a8jNgtImQ

>>385941372
if anything Mania would flop because it's digital only

What are the odds of it coming out on 3DS? None?

>>385941435
No one's going to buy Mario Adventure.

It's a shit game. No one really likes mario right?

>>385941967
High, If it can run on machines from 2005 then it can run on the 3DS

>>385941242
Why is everyone letting this go? This is a horrible oversight.

>>385930301
I love this track, sounds like something you'd hear on a theme park ride

>>385942001
Mario Adventure is going to be better than Sonic Adventure

but that really isn't a tough feat

>>385942001
Don't delude yourself
>>385941967
>>385942102
I feel like if they were gonna release it on 3DS we'd know already
>>385942191
Because this is an earlier build and they might have fixed it by now, or it could be intentional.

>>385941967
0%

>>385942191
It's painfully obvious Sonic's running up the burning logs, which means they still have hit detection even when they're on fire. The alternative would be for them to stop having that hit detection when they catch on fire in the first place

There's nothing wrong with it

>>385942191
Because it looks fun. Being able to split second run back up a burning bridge isn't a bad thing.

>>385942191
what>>385942293 said, also being able to run up the bridge like this might actually be helpful once in a while.