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>>385919185
rip ;_;

Is it out yet

>>385919672
a little over a day my man

aug 4ourth

I've never enjoyed Diablo like games but I really got into PoE.
Shame that was like 5 days before the league ended so I only managed to get to the end of cruel difficulty.

>>385919185
>tfw shields got buffed
>tfw some shields will have spell dodge built in
>tfw nu modifiers for shields
>tfw still can't wear 2 shields

what the fuck

>>385919185
Haven't played in over a year but I'm pretty hyped about the expansion. Feels good not knowing anything and going in blind. I usually play hardcore but it seems stupid to even try it with the new acts.

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>>385919185
>forum

>>385919185
New league shield looks fucking great for blade flurry build.

KILL YOURSELF AND YOUR F2P GRINDFEST TRASH

>>385920568
You shit talking an azn, n00b?

>>385921094
f2p grind masterrace

Patch notes killed some of my hype, shit skills are still shit. At least Ascendant finally got some buffs

>>385920157
Advancing fortress

Shields can't be weapons until they have base damage, plus they would need a new set of animations for every class

>>385921494
Who cares you're just gonna import your build anyway

>>385919185
scrolled through it and stopped at this
>The Cruel and Merciless resistance penalties have been moved to the completion of Act 5 and the completion of Act 10 respectively. Once either act has been completed, these penalties affect your character in all game areas.
fucking lol. what garbage

What melee build is good for 3.0 boyz
I've been taking a break from poe for a couple months waiting for release

>>385921561
>import
you what

>>385921675
2H Sunder Slayer

>>385919185
Fuck this fucking game.

Tired of the enless grind and patches that fuck up the entire build after spending so much currency trying to build it

>>385920318
You dont need to know anything. They have a built in passive tree simulator in game and actual info on mechanics with new help tool tips.

the game plays itself now feels good man.

>>385921667
The games stats are balanced around the effects so nothing changes really, what did you expect?

>>385921763
>net decking your builds and trading

your fault for not playing HC SSF

>>385919185
do i still need to play some shitty leagues over and over and over?

>>385921864
When were you able to replay leagues LOL

>>385921864
You do realize standard exists, you don't have to play leagues if it's not your thing. Or are you just bitching to bitch like a fucking moron?

>>385921749
Check the notes

>>385921946
do i get everyting new from the leagues in standard?
i fucking hate online only ARPGS

>>385922028
You get stuff from previous leagues that they've decided to add to the base game

>>385922028
>do i get everyting new from the leagues in standard?
Yes, its always been this way, have you even played the game?
>i fucking hate online only ARPGS
Then why are you even talking about Path? Play something else man. There are a million D2 mods that make for fun ARPGs and other standalone titles.

>>385922028
So like each league has unique to that league mechanics, in this case harbinger mobs. And handful of uniques tied to this league.

Rest of the content in 3.0 will be in standard, but like at the end of harbinger league it just gets merged to standard.

Personally I ignore standard and only play Temp HC.

>>385919185
what's the state of TRIPLE SLAMMIN DONGERS?

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ancestral totems still good?

>>385922148
>Play something else man.
oh anon, i literally played every single ARPG to date, but POE
and now its time

>>385921834
finding something ultra rare and selling it is half the fun

Is all trading done through some 3rd party site that gets posted in chat once in a while?
I didn't get far enough to get stuff worth trading so I don't know how things work yet.

Things poe is missing.
Areas with roofs ove5 them like random houses
Plus 5% damage to skellitons
PvP where ppl can invade your area
More then one attack over and over

>>385923419
Caves that are randomly there no crazy enemies.

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>>385923419
>PvP where ppl can invade your area
yeah, give me some minmax faggots to fuck my ass in one attosecond

>>385923580
Get gud

>>385923419
>PvP where ppl can invade your area
There's a reason cutthroat races are short

>>385923620
Not him, but I play unpopular memebuilds, while 60% of the community is player the broken FOTM build (the same people who whine about skill nerfs).

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Does the skill tree contain actual skills yet instead of only passive stat boosts?

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>>385923790
it's not a skill tree its a passive skill tree and yea its still only going to have passive only 4 ever.

>pretending to be dumb

haha ree xD

>>385923167
yes. if you are looking to trade and don't use that site, enjoy overpaying out your ass for everything because everyone in trade chat is max jew mode

>>385923790
why would it ever have that? that doesn't at all fit the design of poe

>>385923865
>claim it's a diablo beater
>doesn't even have the most basic feature from diablo

Makes sense.

>>385923935
>diablo beater need to be exactly like diablo
kek, no wonder why MMOS dies

>>385923935
>skill trees are good

WEW

this is why diablo2 is dead

>>385923935
lol, here's a (You)

>>385924118
Right back at ya buddy you know I'm right

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>they reverted the changes to charges
Thank fucking jesus.

>>385924324
Only until some other related changes are ready

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>>385919185
>Barely any buffs, specially to older underused skills
>Shit ton of nerfs
>We still don't know if boss drop is increased to make up for the retarded hp buff
At least none of the builds i planned got nerfed i guess.

>>385922762
Yeah warchief is still great

>>385923419

>Areas with roofs ove5 them like random houses

Act 3 (soon Act 9) Warehouses

>>385924472
This isn't blizzard where they buff weak shit to make everything overpowered so nothing is over powered. Strong things needed to be nerfed not the weak shit getting buffed. Why would they increase drop rates for bosses.

Stop trying to casualize the game when the diablo series exists. Just play that instead.

r-REE

>>385919185
oh man i got excited and started downloading poe just to realize the league doesnt start for 2 days

ur gay OP

>>385924472
There has been a HUGE amount of power creep over the years.
Shit needed to be nerfed NOT buffed.

baka desu senpai

Was interested in this game, but that completely died when I learned you had to trade with other players for shit.

>>385924472
To be fair the game is way faster than it should be pre 3.0 and will still certainly be way faster than pre vaal spark/howa days

The game needs to buff skills AND nerf skills

How does PoE's economy (no gold or coins) work?

Do people like it better than Diablo's?

>>385924632
>>385924658
You're right, but there is a bunch of skills that are still borderline useless that could've used some buffs for some more skill diversity.

>>385924517
No I want it randomly throughout the game maybe a secre6 passage hidden. Something not obvious

>>385924745
>had to trade
>mfw people still don't exclusively play solo self found mode

>>385924767
How does it work, as in how well? Or how does it work, as in what do people use?
Plenty of people will tell you it's better than gold.

>>385924745
You don't have to
Plenty of people play 'self found"

Fucking christ I don't get people's bitching and moaning about the littlest things regarding Path, but yet don't realize that many of the things they complain about are purely optional

>>385924745
how else do you wanna get your items without praying for extremely rare global drops

The game has solo self found mode and theres plenty of ways to semi accurately farm specific items thanks to divination cards n stuff

>>385924745
You can grind for it too

>>385924832
Is there any benefit to playing it?
I'm considering it since trading seems like a huge hassle.

>>385924767
desu its the greatest thing to has happened to virtual economies since memecoins

Things have actual value and don't become a meme where you have a billion of it until the very end game or you actually trade like a casual. With gold you hit the ceiling within the first hour and gold becomes a meme currency used to fluff your screenshots of your inventory.

>>385924819
A lot of """useless""" skills like Heavy Strike are only considered useless because people don't know when they're useful

>>385919185
>diablo
>30+ million sales, one of the most successful video games of all time, diablo 4 guaranteed
>poe
>some f2p game where you only kill trashmobs

nothing really to talk about here...graphics and shit of poe still look laughable and amateurisht too. everything still plastic wrap.

>>385919185
>Berserker is still a better class for spells than witch because neither the ascendancy or VP got nerfed
For fucks sake GGG.

>>385924926
If I don't make a SSF character it's only because I'll be playing with 2 or 3 buddies. I rarely trade with strangers

>>385924926
It helps people who don't have self control from just not trading by taking the option away

literally just don't trade. How is trading real haha like damn nigga.

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>>385924745

>>385924926
You get a fancy banner next to your name on peoples friends lists that let them know you're playing ssf

There is no real benefit to playing it, but there is something more enjoyable about crafting your items though as opposed to hoarding all your crafing items(currency) to buy chase items and stuff

>>385925031
name one arpg where you don't kill trash mobs

>>385921937
Really?. You are not even trying.

>>385925031
>still believing commercial success due to name branding is the same as being a good game
D3 has gotten progressively worse with each new patch and denying it only proves how much of a shitter you are

>>385924767
You trade chaos orbs for cheap stuff and exalted orbs for expensive stuff

>>385924991
Ground Slam vs Sunder/EQ
Ice Nova vs Vortex
Vigilant Strike
Conversion Trap
Lightning Trap

Feel free to weigh in

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>>385925031
>bosses in d3
>playing for +5 mainstat 24/7
>no chase items anymore cause they spoonfeed you everything
>poe finally passing it in visuals

>>385919185
Did they remade shitty boring one-skill combat? No? Into the trash it goes

>>385924926
>I'm considering it since trading seems like a huge hassle.
Search for what you want on poe.trade
Click one button that copies a canned message to your clipboard that you paste in game to whisper the dude who is selling all of the details of the offer
Show up and make the trade

Shit is literally the easiest trading that I've ever done in a game.

>Traps and Mines are now invulnerable while they are arming and invulnerable while they are casting their skill. This means a trap thrown directly onto a monster who will detonate it cannot be destroyed before it detonates.
Thats cool, but doesn't it make clever construction pointless?

>>385925319
even botting I couldn't get all the items I wanted for a LoN build in 4 days (96 HOURS) of straight farming so that point is kinda retarded and
>poe passing it in visuals
now you're just lying anon
I like both games and I'm super stoked for 3.0 but those aren't arguments.

>>385925235
Lightning trap is actually really good but its a trap and people hate mines/traps usually

Everything else is shit though yeah dont forget stuff like cold snap and vengeance

>>385919185
I'm still going back to D3. Maybe it's the area where I live but I get tons of people to rift with me, while in PoE I olny get lag and the subsecuent death by one shot from across the map.

>>385925328
>combat in an arpg

So just use more than one skill? This is literally that image of a guy riding a bicycle and then fucking his own shit up but blaming anyone else LOL.

>>385925451
Only most of the time, sometimes this buff won't be enough
>>385925548
I actually don't know why I put LT there, I am planning on making a lightning trapper

Izaro has been nerfed quite heavily, overall they made the Lab easier too, Darkshrines apparently don't give negative debuffs anymore.

>>385925560
I want 4 skills usable at least at all times

>>385925746
so equip 4 skills?

actually why not 5 desu.

>>385925510
>durrr even botting dried lake i couldnt afford my gear
>hasnt even looked at act 5 yet

>>385925550

>I still prefer driving with a scooter. Maybe its the area where I live but I get tons of people to afternoon scooter driving sessions with me, while with the motorcycle I only get mechanical problems I have to fix myself and subsequent death by crashing on a car because I can't handle that much horsepower.

Good to know anon. At least you're being honest about being a casual.

>>385925746
Then fucking use 4 skills. Are you sure you're typing what you mean?

>>385925746
play a more complex build then faggot no one is stopping you but yourself

>>385925746

Play summoner builds with AoE-abilities and curses.

>>385924904
>>385924893
>>385924874
>>385924832
How is the game's balance for self-found? Does the game assume you have access to the market?

>>385925813
>>385925789
The whole game at end game everyone is using one move

>>385919185
shame that this is always online, I'd happily play it otherwise

>>385925802
LoN is diablo 3, sweetie.
Maybe if you read the post I was replying to and then my post--meanwhile having a basic grasp of english--you would have understood that from context.

>>385925746
Play melee.
>Attack skill
>Movement skill
>Warcry
>Totem
>Vaal Shit
>another Vaal Shit if you need it
Wow, how hard!

Why can't I hire help like d2

>>385925893

Game is generally balanced so that if you know what you're doing, you can beat all of the content with enough grinding and a build that is not pants-on-head levels retarded.

If you want to join the Races or do the content QUICKLY, thats where you start needing actual trading.

>>385925959
1 melee I want 5 melee

>>385925893
It plays just like it would if you weren't playing on ssf. Meaning you can do even the harder stuff without the market, it just means more grinding.

>>385925901
because its probly more convenient for them. I only like to use 2 moves because I want to only use my mouse to do anything. I use my side button for my potions and my mouse left right and mid for movement, movement skill, and my main dps skill.

If I wanted to I could use the 5 skill slots mapped to QWERT by defualt and the 3 on mouse like something like the passive that makes enemies take bonus damage from other elements except for the last element they were hit with so I could hit them with an ice attack, then fire, than lightning to get a huge boost in damage without having to use a support gem to get the damage. But I just don't feel like it. because I like to lay back with one arm stretched out and the other choking my benis because thats just me but nobody is forcing me to do so.

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>>385925986
>races
>trading

my only experience with these types of games is diablo 3 for a couple of seasons

started playing poe, at level 30 something, doing a witch minion build with zombies, skellies and the ghost skull things that you spam. any tips or tricks? the maps are massive, i usually find myself just going in circles

>>385925901
Fuck of nigger, you obviously never leveld past 50. Let alone a summoner that barely manages to have enough gem slots for all the offerings and summons and their links.

Stop denying the fact that you invested so much time in diablo3 that you don't want to admit that you're wrong.

>huge nerf to necro
>no fixes for spectre even though they were promised in 3.0
t-thanks
I don't even give a shit about the first part of CoD change, the loss of 20% elemental resist is game breaking, without that minions are cannon fodder even if they are spectres with base 500%+ hp modifier like the giant spear statues, summons are now worthless unless you want to use zombies, which were buffed so absurdly necromancer might as well just be called zombiemancer now.

>>385925978
You can summon golems that are pretty much the same.

>>385926056
I used to play like that back when I was a noob.
>Single target skill
>AoE skill
>Vigilant strike for Fortify
>Leap Slam
>Warcry
Shit was piano yo and it sucked. Then I learned to play the game

>>385926206
D2 had like 8 abilities people can do.
What's poes problem

>>385925893
it doesn't change anything its just a hard removal of trading period. Trading to have your epic meme build is just about clear speed not about being able to do the content period. Even then just man up and play the game and get your uniques from rng cards or rng orbs and craft.

>>385926292
Into one attack gsy

>>385926378
The game's fast and dynamic enough. Even with 1 main skill my fingers are flying over keyboard during gameplay. Positioning, killing shit, placing totems, gulping flasks, dodging dangerous shit. Dunno, if you find it boring you aren't going fast enough.

>>385926147
just gotta get used to the layout patterns

Every area follows a sort of formula exclusive to itself and its map variants

Taking leveling content slow isnt bad or anything just means you'll better figure out the patterns

>>385926147
Yea just get 2 quick silver flasks so whenever they show up as rewards take them. Just run past mobs unless they are blue/yellow/orange for that thicc exp and drops and everything else can be disregarded except when you run out of charges and need more. No point in killing lvl 30 mobs when you are level 30 or higher and can just use that time to move to the next zone which has higher level guys which will give you better drops and exp for your time etc etc until you get higher level enough where the gap is big enough that farming is actually ok since you'll need currency and drops.

>>385926251
Necro needed a nerf, they were insane for group pushing. "Game breaking"? Come the fuck on man.

>>385926296
???? What is your problem? You can fucking youse 20 skills if you want. You'll do no damage though.
And you can use a few synergizing skills for max fun and still keeping you awake.

Stop pretending with this weak as bait I am falling for and stop with your made up problems, like you want to use 8+ skills 100% of the time.

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>20% inc phys damage support gem
>hard physical damage is still shitty

>>385925550
>d3 fags still think rifts can compare to 3.0

Maybe if my friend wasnt already top 5 global in necro and top 10 in barb i would think it had some semblance of challenge to it. But there just isnt. This guy mainly plays cod and shooters and is waiting for destiny 2 but was #3 yesterday for global leaderboards this season already with his 89 rift.

How fucking easy is it anymore ffs

>>385926296
poe is too fast by meta standards but almost any skills can be played at endgame in some form

It's just the meta skills WAAY over-achieve

>>385925451
>zombiemancer
>SRS is still one of the best league starters

As much as people whine about the nerfs, theres a lot of nerfs on monsters as well. Like losing all ailment immunities except Freeze.

>>385926679
That's a problem

R.I.P Grim Dawn

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>dark pact makes skeletons actually viable

>>385919185

Diablo fucking died the moment d3 came out. Don't even fucking pretend most of the people playing 3 right now have even touched 2, much less 1.

Regardless, poe is much better than 3 ever was and if my pc didn't just fucking die I'd definitely be playing it right as the update hits.

https://youtu.be/7GMkiEx1mmg

>>385921749
>2H Sunder Slayer
>Sunder
>Melee

You might as well play a actual mage at that point.

>>385926643
Here's how to fix it in a single word; changes "allies" to "minions" on CoD. There, fucking fixed. They didn't have to gut the entire node.

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Hardcore is the only mode worth playing

>>385926793
Then why do you want to bitch about poe? Play something else.

>>385927010
To be fair the only way to make melee work it to make it aoe or a spell basically

thats just the nature of a genre focused on killing packs of monsters without leaving stragglers

>>385926296
>play d2
>pick a class
>Can only use 30 abilities total but only really like 12 since you have to put points into the previous ability and general gymnastics to access them

>play poe
>have access to all skills (120+) at all times even if they aren't aligned to the attributes of your base class
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_active_skill_gems
>and then you can change the skills with support gems so the combinations are like a gorillion different skills
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_support_skill_gems

WEW

I'm a scrub and have only played shadow so far.
What should I go with for next league, a summoner or a two-handed melee guy?
I feel like playing one of those, no idea if either is any good.

>>385927013
The whole point is reducing the power while keeping the function. That makes it useless as a support and Guardians will just take over again.

>>385927010
You might as well not play the game at all if you want to play a true melee skill like heavy strike or dual strike instead.

>>385927157
It does not make it useless FOR A FUCKING NECROMANCER. The class is made for buffing fucking minions, not other party members, let guardians have buff mule status, Necromancer was never meant to have it to begin with, everyone making that argument is fucking stupid.

>>385927139
Skellies and Zombies might actually be good this league, and SRS is one of the most consistent builds on a shit budget

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>>385927103
And then you play one of the 5 meta builds which uses one attack skill, one movement skill and a couple of auras and buffs.

WEW

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>>385926793
Here is my 92 summoner from breach league, everything in the red circle are skills. The things with a circle are active auras. Everyhing else except the crossed out are 8(eight) active skills I am using 100% of the time.

So where is your problem?

might as well jump in, I'm kinda bored with Grim Dawn.
the game isn't down or anything for the patch right?

>>385926147

>started playing poe, at level 30 something, doing a witch minion build with zombies, skellies and the ghost skull things that you spam. any tips or tricks? the maps are massive, i usually find myself just going in circles

This is probably the worst time to ask this since difficulties get removed and replaced with new content, so other than beta-testers, nobody has any idea yet what is the most optimal leveling route. Next weekend they're all learning it together, old and new players.

But if you're asking for general tips, Life and ES are VERY important if you wish to survive in late game content. Life/ES node> Damage node> Armor/Evasion node>Utility node.

General rule of thumb is if you don't have at least 4000 health/ES/both by level 68-70, then your character sucks. Relocate your points to more life nodes and find more items with increased max Life/ES if you find yourself getting one-shotted by monsters in maps.

And remember thats bare minimum, you can always have more. And some boss abilities can still one-shot you so don't stand in that Shaper Kamehameha-Beam unless you have a ridiculously tanky build.

>>385927287
If you actually think the node is bricked from this change, you're fucking delusional.

>>385927401
>its okay when I'm a meta slave in diablo
>but when people do it in poe its bad ree xD

How should I build a Dark Pact marauder?

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>>385919185

everything got fucked
nice meme

>>385927531
I don't give a shit about Diablo, mang.

>>385927426

Now is your last chance to play the game with difficulty settings. Bix expansion comes out on Friday and adds 6 new Acts. So if you want to do a trial run right now, go ahead. But the content everyone is waiting for comes out in few days.

>>385927426
its not down but its unstable because the moved leagues and doing behind the scenes shit. For some reason since they started moving shit when ever I hover over every other thing the tool tips are vibrating. Game is weird right now.

Good for learning tho.

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>>385927594
10/10 image

>>385927608
well stop giving a shit about the meta while you are at it

>>385927401

Some players are retarded and let other people play the game for them. Doesn't mean you are forced to do that.

>>385926147
So here's a few tips:
1) Survivability comes mostly from passive tree, damage mostly comes from gear. So rev up those EHP nodes.
2) If the difference between your level and zone level is more than 2 you're gonna get EXP penalty. The most effective way to level is to be underlevelled by 2 in the current zone. Skipping monsters is absolutely okay.
3) If you're not playing SSF hoard on chaos orbs. Use those to get your resistances to cap when you hit endgame.
4) While levelling linked sockets are more useful than stats of the gear. Better have a magic 4-link chest with +20 HP than 1-socket rare with tons of cool stuff. However you can always attempt to reforge sockets on the gear with orbs.

>>385925346
But buying straight from the auciton is much easier. Fuck, why can't game devs just show up at my door and stick a baby bottle in mouth so I can suckle it.

>>385927527
Minions do not need damage. They need survivability. If you don't know that you have never played a minion build in t12+ maps, they can steamroll early maps without the res boost but in later ones they will get their asses pounded by magic mob clusters if you aren't careful, even if you are speccing them defensively. Without that 20%, EVERY perandus box will be a 100% loss of minions in t12+.

To be honest, the game does need many nerfs right now, considering all the power creeps that brought us the fucking clear speed meta that turned all enemies into glorified damage tiles,

Where even fucking hardcore players watching TV while playing, because that's how much fucking attention the game required.

where you are encouraged to run 24/7 strand map because backtracking is inefficient and all non top tier drops are worthless not even bother identifying since currency is the only way to get anywhere thanks to the rampant inflation due to the clear speed meta.

>>385927741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbM_7MAMHk

>>385928063
>hurr muh speed clear meta
strand farming is for EXP to get level 100. You wanna do content then you gotta pay attention or farm until you are unstoppable.

Fuck off casual.

>>385927823
Actually you need flat life/es on pretty much all of your gear for late game, simply because of all the possible random oneshots

>>385926937
One of the very few streamers I like, especially because of how he hates that autistic aussie.

>>385928157
Strand farming is mostly for currency you shitter.

>>385928232
>that autistic Aussie
Assuming you're talking about streamers, aren't there like 4 popular Aussies streamers?

>>385926937
ProjectPT is such a fucking retard holy shit no wonder /poeg/ idolizes the guy.
>Makes builds that are absolute failures and blames it on bad balance instead of his own retardation
>Actually worries about PvP balance in a game where nobody gives a shit about PvP

>>385927191
Kondo's Pride heavy-multi strike is viable, and you can't do it with another skill.

Shame the bleed nerfs are going to totally gut it.

There are so many changes in this update all my knowledge of the game is now useless. Sure feels like it at least.

No idea what kind of build I'd do now.

>>385928063

>Where even fucking hardcore players watching TV while playing, because that's how much fucking attention the game required.

Thats more because they're playing it safe and grinding easy content, like you really should in Hardcore and in PoE where bullshit instakills can happen. Playing HC you just have to accept the fact with certain builds you should stay the fuck away from certain content.

>>385928359
So?

I love that feeling personally. I dont follow metas or anything, just plan ahead for the build im going for and it usually works pretty well.

From what I've seen this is more viable than ever and I started when there were only 3 acts

>>385928328
I don't know man, I only know quin69.

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>5 years later poefags continue to be butthurt over d3

It's a fun casual game meant for the broader market, just like D2. Even playing PoE I keep seeing D3 mentioned atleast once per day in the chat, atleast once per day.

Give it a rest, you cunts.

>>385926937
He's the only streamer I've ever subbed to. Also the reason I got interested in the game.

>>385928497
Sure, I guess.
I always play HC leagues and try to go for 36 challenges though, so a little bit of theorycrafting doesn't hurt

>>385928359

>There are so many changes in this update all my knowledge of the game is now useless.

Yeah, I'm excited too. So many new things to learn.

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>>385928265
>strand
>currency
You get way more currency by TRADING and CRAFTING you absolute shitter.

You don't even fucking pick up loot while strand farming you dumbfuck.

>>385928567
Bad games stay bad forever Nintendo has the same problem

>>385928359
Feels fucking good man, especially when I know I don't have to run the same acts 3 fucking times again. It's great when a game which you're so familiar with already, gets such a massive update.

>>385928619
>trading
fuck you kike
trading needs to stay the fuck away from diabloclones

>>385928679

Was poor at launch, but it's a fun distraction meant for the casual audience and those with little time. Just like every Blizzard game ever made.

>>385928567
Who was mentioning D3 before you? Maybe 1-2 posts about it, but otherwise it is at a point where most people completely ignore it, why would someone be butthurt over something that is objectively inferior? Grim Dawn and PoE are the future of Diablolikes, maybe you are the one that needs to move on and let the once great IP die in peace.

>>385928682
Probably the best change. Especially playing HC you can't deny that it can get old doing the same acts so many times.

By the way, how will it work in terms of -20 and -60 to res?

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>>385928619
>crafting

Yes waste thousands of chaos and dozens of ex to have a chance at a mirror worthy item. Do you even fucking play?

Crafting is something you do when you have money not something you do to make money.

>>385928567

Thats because majority of the PoE playerbase fucking hated how Blizz raped the Diablo-franchise and sees Path of Exile as the "Sequel D3 should've been.". Very few PoE players are newcomers to the entire genre.

PoE-players are like Plinkett and D3 is like Star Wars Prequels.

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how does slayer look in FoO

>>385926746
As a fun factor. I have more fun in rifts than in PoE. I play both and find them complementary.
Nevertheless I keep coming back to D3, it feels less bullshit IMO.

>>385927010
>dude only targeted single target is true melee lmao
Go play glacial hammer instead of asking for advice then you dumb faggot.

>>385928874
literally unchanged
>"if you killed recently" effects
fuck you GGG

>>385928619
You sure speaks like somebody that doesn't play the game.
Apparently it is impossible for you to trade while farming a brainless map like strand.

Besides, the most profitable method is actually sitting in town and flipping, but you don't gain much exp.

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>>385928972
neat

I love PoE but fuck can they just stop relying on poe.trade already?

>>385928567
there is literally nothing wrong with calling the diablo series shit desu

>>385929023
no it's not fucking neat
2 of the better passives do fuckall most of the time

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>>385928868
>Very few PoE players are newcomers to the entire genre

>tfw I basically am
Played through the first act of diablo 2 but that's about it.

>>385926724
Pure physical has always been great though. Elemental only works if you build around penetration. Physical needs no penetration. It was always fucking stupid when people had to use gems like "added fire" on a physical build because there were no alternatives. We finally get them.

>balance around Removal of Difficulty Levels: The Cruel and Merciless resistance penalties have been moved to the completion of Act 5 and the completion of Act 10 respectively
So you can just never finish act 10 and go mapping with Cruel-level resistances?

>>385929091
They're hellbent on promoting "player interaction" even if that player interaction means exchanging two lines of text and meeting for 30 seconds.

>>385929218
They'll probably move the map device to act 10. Duh

>>385929241
Fuck that.
We all know that idea, as nice as it is, failed.

Literally just copypasted message, click click, "t4t ss"

>>385929218

maps are unlocked after finishing the story
you can stay at a10 and farm with vaal skills with the cruel skill cost, though

>>385928619
>crafting
>Not a noob trap meant to destroy your currency
>Not reserved for the top percentage of people that hates money

>trading
>the most profitable method requires you to flip.

>>385929218
As written, yeah, but there's probably a good enough reason to not do that, we know almost nothing about 10.

Who /wildstrike/ here?

>>385928762
>>385928837
>>385929021
Doesn't change the fact that I am right about crafting and trading being a 10 times more efficient way of earning currency than strand farming.

Fuck, boosting people through lab and selling lab enchants is more currency than strand farming. Strand farming is for EXP and nothing more. You roll for pack size to get more EXP, you don't roll for quantity/rarity. These posts confirms to me that PoE has some extreme amount of shitters.

Think you can make a build around that new lightning orb channel skill?

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Is it too late to get into the game now?

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>>385929472

no, you're just in time for 3.0

>>385929471
We don't know its true numbers, just the datamined values, but almost definitely.
>>385929472
3.0 will be the best new player experience to date.

>>385929472
No. New league with new main game progression on friday. If anything its the best time to get into the game.

>>385929472
It never is, especially not when a giant patch is hitting that resets everyone's knowledge of the game to nigh zero.

Besides, you get to start in a fresh temporary season

>>385923790

Diablo-style skill tree is obsoleted by skill gems.

>really want the cowboy mtx armor
>don't want to pay 60 bucks

>>385927458
Not him but then I guess 2.3k health at 66 is atrocious? Explains why Merciless Kaom's Dream is killing me over and over whereas it was a breeze up until the boss in Cruel.

>>385929472

No. If you start right now it'd be too soon to get into it, since your build and progression will get assfucked by the MASSIVE update that changes everything. I've been wanting to get back in for a month but I can't bring myself to because I knew this update was right around the corner. Just give it a couple of days

>>385929869
Same
>tfw play poe in bursts
>nolife a hc season, then skip one, then nolife one.. etc.

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>>385928354
>Many other weapons which previously inflicted Bleeding on hit with a 100% chance now only have a 25% chance to inflict Bleeding. This affects the following weapons: The Blood Reaper, Atzir's Disfavour, Jack, the Axe, Rigwald's Savagery, Rive, Uul-Netol's Kiss, Uul-Netol's Embrace, Slivertongue, all weapons with Vagan's crafted mod, all weapons with Tora's vendor mod.

>Kondo's Pride is not mentioned

>>385929757
Thankfully at least they put the only good looking set on the lowest supporter tier. Everything after that looks like regular fucking mmo garbage, but thats what the community wants i guess.

>>385929932
Don't let GGG know about it

Scion is looking a lot less shit now.

>>385929443
Crafting is only very profitable when you have mirrorworthy gear you shitter.

flipping doesn't give you exp, and have plenty of opportunity cost. And strand map spamming does allow for trading and farming, since you could finish the map in flash even after you get a trade request.

>>385930040
Yeah, my first build will be a scion Fireballer, Deadeye/Elementalist. The new pierce mechanics make fireball even better than it was.

>>385929472

Next weekend is the best time in a long while, because both new and old players have to learn things from scratch.

>>385929983
Wish it was in the 30 dollar tier though.
I still sit on a bunch of points I can't even use towards this new pack and don't want much else. Oh well.

>This fucking update comes out when it's my busiest time ever at work

>>385929472
It's too early even. Wait for a week or two.

>>385929787

>Explains why Merciless Kaom's Dream is killing me over and over whereas it was a breeze up until the boss in Cruel.

Merciless Act 4 is "unbalanced", right after the mines the difficulty curve goes up a lot. Do the first 2 quests in Act 4 (free the ghost from the hand), get the waypoint then start mapping instead. Then come back to Merciless Act 4 when you're level 80 for easy stomp.

game is downloading now.
what's the glass cannon build? I wanna be a caster that blows shit up. Bonus points for edgy dark magic and curses.

>>385930735
Probably low life occultist whatever then.

>>385930735
What about Flameblast? Channel a huge AoE explosion. It even has an edgy skill effect to turn it into runes and blood.
>>385930892
Considering he said he's just installing the game, I wager that doesn't help much

>>385930735

Witch in general. Or Shadow if you want to play with Dr.Thrax abilities. Just build enough ES to survive so Merciless/Map mobs or bosses don't just instagib you.

How much stronger would a build taken from internet be compared to something an average player would make himself?
I hate taking skill builds for games from internet but I don't want to end up with an unusable character.

>>385930735
The basic mechanical premise of the game is that it's very easy to do a lot damage, but very difficult to be able to take a hit in the lategame. On most characters, most of your tree will be attributes and defenses. Since you're talking you're probably going to be playing a Witch, I guess you just don't take that much energy shield and put more points into stupid levels of damage.

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>>385930735
>>385930892
>>385930970

I'd say a Berserker caster is a better choice for him due to the 40% more damage and the 100% life leech allows him to get away with making noob mistakes

>>385931346
>Berserker caster
Yeah great, recommend newbie a build that won't even reach any of its relevant damage passives until act 4.

>>385931185
If you accounted for just the passive tree then the internet build wouldn't be that much better. Making a tree for a build is not that hard. What the internet builds have that the average player probably doesn't is knowledge of uniques and their interaction with the games mechanics. If you really want to make a build by yourself and you're just starting then i'd advise you to try to pick a main skill, read what kind of scaling it has (aoe, projectile, elemental damage, etc) and look in the wiki for items that work around those scaling types. Build your tree around that, knowing that you need some sort of damage mitigation too.

>>385930735
I think ED/Contagion is a good choice, because damage has been greatly increased.

can I get a quick rundown on this game?
I dropped marvel heroes after like 2 years of playing.

>>385930735
EVERY character is a glass cannon in this game Anon

>>385929127
Slayer is the BEST Ascendancy for 2H melee smackdown fagtron, literal Vaal Pact leech. .

>>385931695
Rundown on the story, gameplay, ...?

>>385931185

Both methods get you to the mountain top. Meta builds are basically a fast, easy elevator on top, while home-recipe builds' journey depends on your own planning and the climbing process can be slow and meticulous.

Some crazy idea fun-builds won't work the first time around but nothing prevents you from analyzing what went wrong and how you might improve on that idea the next time.

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>SRS getting the shaft again

>>385931185
"Average player" or "average first time player"? Because for the latter, a first built is an unavoidable flop.

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>>385931779
EVERYTHING, DISREGARD THE "QUICK" AND GIVE ME THE FULL GREEN TEXT EXPERIENCE ON THIS GAME.

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>>385932096

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>>385921763
>Tired of the enless grind
>Name of the company is ''Grinding Gear''
>Makes a free to play game about grinding
>Complains it has grind

is diablo 3 worth the time?

how bad is /vg/ thread for this game?

>>385931558
>>385931937
I see, thanks.
I'm fine with it being slower. I don't really want to rush through the game anyway.

>>385932068
Well I already tried a few builds of my own. They kind of worked but they helped me learn what I need for next time.

>>385932342
Bad but far from the worse. If I had to make a top 10 worst /vg/ generals Poe would be 10.

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>>385932096

>>385919185
It's so sad. Diablo 2 LoD was so fucking great when it was released.

>>385932342
Its absolutely one of the worst generals on /vg/, don't even bother.

>>385931998
Very unfortunate since i wanted to play a SRS build but no idea what to play now.

>>385932096
You were a bad dude that was sent to a cursed continent. Punch a zombie to death to earn your first skill, then make alliances of convenience with the survivors in the land to get to the ruined capital city and kill the corrupted pope that sent you here. After that you sail back to your homeland and get revenge on Roman Catholicism right before Armageddon happens and you sail back to make it right.
Gameplay is the standard clicking monsters and pressing buttons, some unique things are the passive skill tree inspired by the node grid from one of the FF games, crafting orbs instead of gold, and gem items you find and buy to gain skills that socket into your gear.

>>385932552
You obviously don't go in to many /vg/ threads.
Check out /wowg/ or /emug/ some time

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>>385930040
I'm thinking I'll do Flicker Raidermentalist but I'm concerned about Frenzy charge sustain on bosses

>>385932408
>>385932552
>>385932614
what makes so bad?

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>>385932408

top 10 worst? nah, at least poe talks about the game most of the time, unlike certain other generals

>>385932650
Very few people discuss the game. Most just complain about how shit the company is and how THEIR opinions would save the game. It is very unfriendly to new people and there is a lot of off topic shitposting.

Alkaizer has played all the games to an extremw degree and still says poe is the best

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>>385931695
>>385932096
You're a criminal exiled to Fantasy Australia for pissing off the higher ups at home. Smack shit, get loot, smack shit harder yadayada. Lot's of dark fantasy theme and you'll meet a feminist tribe on the way in the storyline, which you can piss off by basically electing Trump in a later act if that's your kind of thing. Monster design is actually fucking unique, and I've played a lot of RPGs in general.
Don't expect handholding, they JUST made a fresh tutorial mode (this game didn't have a tut mode since the first open beta). Your first build will be shit, ALWAYS. But keep playing, there are some knowledge that can be only learned from fucking up in this game. Take one cheap cookie cutter build suit to your liking from forums/streamers and play + learn what makes them effective.
>>385932650
It's just is. Ever since hans and the truly good players left that gen it has been a downward spiral. Even leddit and the main forum are better for discussing.

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>>385932770
>Professional ERPers

>>385932650
Just as any /vg/ thread, after a while the main bulk of the posters leaves as there is not much left to discuss. Whats left is a handful of complete fucking autists that have absolutely nothing else to do but shitpost and perpetuate terrible memes. /poeg/ has that turned up a notch for whatever reason.

>>385928781
Nah old blizzard had heart and soul

what's the end game about? just make new characters without any account-wide benefit like paragon levels?

>>385932770
Why do MMOs always attract this kind of people?

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>>385933003

cute characters with lots of customization (mainly this, you don't see people ERPing nearly as often in RuneScape for example)
weekly/daily lockouts mean there's a lot of free time to do random shit (like erp)

>>385933184
buying gf

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>>385933184

>>385932991

>what's the end game about?

Get to the center of the atlas and then the final endgame boss, by filling the atlas with markings which you do by clearing endgame maps. Endgame actually has a separate story to it from the main game if thats what you like.

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>>385933526

Fuck, forgot the image.

>>385932342
people in poeg stopped using the quote/reply feature because it symbolizes upvotes

wow that's pretty fucking bad.

>>385933643
Holy shit thats retarded.

>>385932991
Endgames included :
- Maps. Just maps.
- Atziri and co, four-titted four-armed queen who fires nukes and spears. There is an Uber version of her which doubles the nukes and spears.
- Endgame Labyrinth, navigate around it to reach Mr.Bones' treasures. Said Mr.Bones has a ton of life and, given the right condition, can 1shot you with a poke.
- Shaper, reality warping squidman. Highest leveled boss in the game but actually is really fucking easy, mostly a mechanical fight and a DPS race.

>>385933184
>This goes on for 2 hours
Please tell me that's in-game time

>>385919185
but I heard it's the opposite, that this expansion pretty much killed all the fun PoE had

who do I believe?

>>385933847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ejSJiGN4A8

just krip

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>>385932991

Play maps in Atlas, try to beat endgame bosses like Purple Sauron Council, The Furry King, Breach league Cthulhu bosses or the Fem-Diablo with four tits.

>>385933894
Has krip overdosed on memestone yet?

>>385933808
>tfw used to roleplay and be very slow at typing
I didn't erp but others probably got very impatient because of me.

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>>385930638
>this update comes out literally on the same day my holidays begin

>>385933847
People saying that are overreacting.

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>>385934040
>my holiday ends right as the update comes out
feels bad man

>>385933847
Did you hear that in /poeg/ by any chance?

>>385934547
Yeah why?

>>385934632
You should disregard any opinion poeg has of PoE and anything relating to it. Shit talking the game is a meme there and they know fuck all about balance.

Playing as free to play is impossible. I cant hoard all the currency, gear and the retarded amount of maps. This game is pay to win.

>>385935398
Why hoard? Use the damn master recipes, you don't need 800 alteration orbs lying around.

>>385935398
Nigger if you've played enough to start worrying about stash space and you're not just hoarding useless crap then its about time you stop being a fucking freeloader and bought at least some stash tabs. If you go by dollars per hour of fun this game is cheaper than most AAA games.

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>>385935398

>Playing as free to play is impossible.

>>385935398
so just drop them on the ground lmao

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Why doesn't SSF have increased currency drop rate?

There's no point like this, unless you're weak willed. I stopped playing a while ago, coming back to 3.0, read that there was SSF now and thought "oh nice, they added it" but like this it's retarded.

Just wanted to be able to use currency more, what a shit.

>>385935737
>what is trading?

Moron. You need to hoard good gear to trade. You need to hoard high level maps because if you dont you will get stuck in T10 forever. You literally cannot reach end game without paying.

>>385922762
top is supposed to be D3?

>>385935958
>wanting the game to be easier and casualized

l-lmao?

>>385936006
Photoshop D3. Bottom is the real one. Its one of those ''This is how it should have looked'' pictures that everyone was making at the time of D3 release.

>>385935917
>drop them on the ground
>invite people to trade
>they steal it

Nice strategy retard.

>>385936251
No I mean destroy them so they are gone for ever LOL

>>385936079
Not really, if you trade you would get 10x the amount of currency, but that's shit.

Besides, there have already been SSF races with increased currency rate, but they were short. It wouldn't affect other players so why would it matter?

Using currency on items is one of the most fun things to do, instead of hoarding it to trade and seldom using it.

>>385936251
>diabloshills are THIS stupid

>>385935859
m8 if you don't think a currency tab AT LEAST is a necessity I have a list of ad hominems I'd like to use on you.

>>385936485
trading is casualized ez mode
wanting more currency rate is casualized ez mode

you are right that it won't effect others players just as I'm right that it's casualized ez mode. No big deal m80 just admit you want the game to be ez.

>>385936763
>i'm an ironman btw

>>385936686

>m8 if you don't think a currency tab AT LEAST is a necessity.

Hasn't prevented me from beating Shaper despite not having one. Only time I started realizing my stash was getting too full was during Legacy league.

Casual shits like you have forgotten what it was like during D2 when your stash was shit and you had to use mules a lot.

>>385936921
>being this afraid of admitting you want the game to be easier

literally no shame in it

>there are people who subject themselves to "hardcore" in a game with this much server-side fuckery
>and act high and mighty because of it

>>385937164

Because they can, unless they have macros for potions and quitting the game of course. Defeats the whole purpose of playing the mode.

>>385925615
>Izaro has been nerfed quite heavily, overall they made the Lab easier too, Darkshrines apparently don't give negative debuffs anymore.

These are only true in Normal and Cruel Labs. Merc Lab has slight nerfs compared to the current version and End Game (Eternal) Lab is unchanged.

>>385937973
>endgame lab is unchanged
Does that include the unbelievable RNG fuckery needed to even get there? I swear, the right endgame trials sometimes just refuse to spawn.

>>385937164
>being this ashamed

>>385932616
The sphere grid is from FFX, and I never thought of the connection between it and PoE's passive grid until now. It's great.

>>385935958
So SSF players can merge back into standard if they so desire.

>>385927741
Fucken RPers. Subhuman filth, not fit for the light of day.

>>385938216
People willingly merge into standard?

>>385938114
Some people playing the beta told me they appear more often now but i don't think that has been confirmed by GGG.

>>385919185
I have played Titan Quest, Diablo 1+2, and PoE.I like look collecting and stuff but I'm a consoly babby that grew up on button masher games like Dynasty Warriors. I'd like a dame like Diablo 2 anbd POE but with gameplay like Dynasty Warriors, is that too much to ask?

>>385938961
baldurs gate dark alliance for ps2

>>385939112
I forgot about that game. I played the demo of the first and rented the sequel. It was okay but not what I was looking for. I want combos, blocks, dodges etc. but also classes and itemization of an ARPG. Sort like Dungeon Figher but moar items and not a shitty f2P korean grinder.

What new is there to do? I already did most things you could do in this game. from the looks its just different acts to grind through before you hit the same end game maps as always. but you also get passive bonus from killing map bosses

woooow

>>385939312
darksouls

>>385939582
That comes damn close but you are not allowed to talk to people and stuff. I want an MMO. Also I"m a PC gamer and Dark Souls on PC have major problems with hackers.

>>385938532
By standard I mean the characters current league

>>385939532
Just new acts, rebalance, and the new gods. yea man if I were you I would just leave the thread and not play the game.

Good thing I'm not you tho LUL.

>>385939729
jesus fucko, ok how about guildwars 2?

dodge rolling, jumping around, classes, itemization, talking to people

>>385939729
Just play Elder scrolls online or any of the 3 playable mmos.

>>385939532
There's the league exclusive content coming out, which we don't know much about, but the harbinger boss mechanic hints at something like the breachlord mechanic

>>385939789
I bet you don't even have a level 100 character

>>385939947
I have like 100 desu

>>385939909
that's what I thought when I saw the video, it kinda just looks like a reskinned warbands that spawn randomly in your area.

>>385939862
>>385939878
Thanks for humoring me guys but I know what I want doesn't actually exist right now. I have a lot of free time right now being a part time college student. Maybe I'll stop being a lazy retard and pick up programming as a hobby something and make a shitty $5 indie that's what I'm looking for.

Back on topic I'm really looking forward to this update.

>>385940080
What you wanted was Dynasty Warriors Online, but the servers are long gone.

I keep playing this game and loving it for the first while, then getting far enough to eventually realize that if you don't minmax the everloving fuck out of your character they become unusable in the late game and sometimes even as early as the mid game sections.
And then I end up not wanting to remake my character just to make them viable and quit.

>>385940338
there is a difference between min maxing and just a playable build. You don't need to minmax to do content. Minmaxing is trading and buying the exact unique to get insane clear speed. What you are talking about is just needing to select +life nodes in the passive tree desu.

>>385940029
More like torment + bloodlines

>>385940029
My thought was actually closer to Bloodlines plus Breachlords

Are they going to update visuals too?

>>385939862
How dare you naming that abomination of a "sequel" to the closest thing that was a combination of D2 and Magic: the Gathering.

>>385940534
Well, the problem is I keep trying to make spell casters using energy shield and sometimes chaos inoculation.
And then I end up in this spot where I have to I have to pick between being able to kill enemies and being able to survive.
And the only way around that is to start taking hexes and shit, which I do not find fun at all.

>>385919185
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1930316
>Added a new Dexterity Support Gem - Lesser Poison Support: Gives your skills a chance to inflict Poison.
isn't there already a damage over time support gem?

>>385941882
If you mean another Poison gem, yes.

>>385919185
>'double dipping' is now a thing of the past.
so literally removing a layer of complexity
fucking over-nerfs man

>>385942443
More like removing a layer of "get those starting shadow nodes and build for phys+poison like literally everyone else"

>>385942443
Double dipping allowed for some fucking stupidly OP shit, but they kinda overdid it with the nerfs. Every source of damage over time is pretty much garbage now.

>summon skelletons now summons a single skelly per cast

what the fuck, that was literally the only thing that made the fact that the skellies are temporary bearable.

Summoning them 1 by 1 when their duration is fucking 20 seconds is absolute garbage

>>385942895
They're buffing them and adding some skelly explosion skill gem.

>>385938961

I like look collecting and stuff but I'm a consoly babby that grew up on button masher games like Dynasty Warriors.

PoE is going to be on that new Xbox with the retarded name.

>>385941165
>chaos inoculation
I really want to make a good chaos innoculation build but I keep failing. And no, I'm not gonna look it up that's cheating