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What is it that makes YuGiOh so satisfying in video games

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What is it that makes YuGiOh so satisfying in video games vs Magic or Pokemon?
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>>385890335
No resource management.
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Casual shit
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>>385890335
better card design, better mechanics, better hair
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>>385890335
>What is it that makes YuGiOh so satisfying in video games
No M-MUH LET ME PLAY SOLITAIRE FOR 5 MINUTES STRAIGHT IN THE FIRST TURN

Link monsters will hopefully slow this shit down, but I still don't like them because they effectively killed my Odd-Eyes Magician and Synchron decks.
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i can use my waifu in every deck
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No mana/energies and, until recently, less archetype driven.
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>>385890696
>less archetype driven
Really? How?
I wish we could go back to when decks had themes instead of archetypes
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>>385890606
>expecting that when Firewall got actually fuvking printed

Lmaoing at ur life
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>>385890696
>until recently, less archetype driven.
Yugioh has been archetype driven since 5Ds era
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>>385890776
I've never played competitively, I just hate the fact that I won't be able to play with anyone other than myself because everyone's going to be playing with the new format.

Also
>Once while face-up on the field (Quick Effect): You can target monsters on the field and/or GY up to the number of monsters co-linked to this card; return them to the hand. If a monster this card points to is destroyed by battle or sent to the GY: You can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand.
What the fuck am I reading? It's the first time a yugioh card actually confuses me
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>>385890816
Dark World was my shit years ago.
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I hope the Switch game has an option to only use these sets online
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>>385890974
What part of that effect confuses you? Its pretty simple to understand.
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>>385891025
Ah, yeah, Dark World. GX archetype. I guess Gravekeepers were around back then too. Archetypes have always been a part of Yugioh
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>>385891069
>Switch game
W-what

POST A TRAILER RIGHT NOW

>>385891097
I just don't quite get the new mechanics yet
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>>385891146
Sorry nothing confirmed yet, but every handheld ever has had one
>>385891102
It's weird to hear "GX." I divide Yugioh into pre synchro and post synchro
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>>385891146
The link part confuses you? By link it means other cards the arrows around the picture points to.
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>>385890974
>>385891097
What the FUCK man, since when do they call the Graveyard "GY"? Shit's fucking retarded. I hate this game sometimes.
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>>385891221
yugioh should be divided into pre-chaos and post-chaos
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>>385890335
nostalgia and anime
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>>385891298
This.
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>>385891298
I understand that IOC changed the game but it's no where near as drastic as the monthly total overhauls that started with synchro. I know Konami has always just wanted people to buy the new pack, but now you literally can't win unless you do.
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Mods just deleted a Little Witch thread where there was game discussion going on.
This thread is probably next.

I hate this board.
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>>385891292
>Nostalgiafags constantly whine that newer cards have too many words
>Now when they try to shorten words to make it easier to read the newer cards they whine about that too
Fuck you and fuck everyone like you.
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>>385890696
>>385890816
I can still make a functional zombie deck that thrives on generic cards that fit the playstyle, and even 5Ds has tons of really good generic synchro cards. Nowdays, every new card effect is "Raidraptor" this and "Fluffal" that. Even zombies are going to get in on that with Vendread.
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>>385891469
I never complained about textwalls, as long as my opponent explains what the fuck they do instead of playing solitaire in silence like an autist.
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What's your favorite rarity and why?
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>>385891446
synchro is just an extension of what IOC started

not even like all decks in synchro were reliant on synchro either like glad beasts
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>>385891465
>where there was game discussion going on.
>vidya discussions on /v/
ahahahah yeah sure faggot. The thread was prob anime shitposting for the most part.
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>>385891529
This is why pre synchro is the real yugioh.
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>>385891549
Ultra, it just looks nice
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>>385891549
Ghost rare.
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>>385890335
Not having to physically interact with the jittery skeletons, pedophiles, edgelords, walking autism advertisements, and that 40 year-old that only showers when his parents threaten to kick him out of the house.
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>>385891583
>Retards are posting in 1 (ONE) thread
>Better delete the thread so the shitposting goes elsewhere and probably scatters around several threads instead of a containment one.
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>>385891585
Pleb as fuck, Synchros were Yugioh's golden age. Xyz were where it went downhill, and Pendulum is just raping the corpse
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>>385891723
>Synchros
but muh beatdown.
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>playing a childrens card game marketed towards children
>not playing Magic instead which is mainly an audience of adults
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>>385891723
pendulum was way better than xyz fuck you
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>>385891806
Magic isn't fun.
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Nothing. Yugioh is a terrible card game.

Magic's problem with video games is just Wizards being jews and refusing to make a good video game adaptation. Everything's either gimped like hell in card selection or has a UI straight out of 2001.

Pokemon's problem is that EX cards are pure fucking cancer but I can't fault the online client for that. It's by far the best modern online card game (fuck hearthstone, though it's still overall better than yugioh) and the two gameboy color games are the best card games period.
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>>385891723
synchro era was pretty good, it was alot more balanced than vanilla
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>>385891806
>playing Magic "I just draw the second puzzle piece and am now going to jerk off onto my deck for 20 minutes until I win" The Gathering.
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>>385891549
Secret, it's a secret
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>>385891806
fantasy card games are still fantasy card games anon
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5d'sfag who could nevee get back into the game during the pendulum shit after taking an extended break, is it now easier to get back into things now that the whole Link summoning thing is just getting started?
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>>385892074
if you liked to spam synchros out the ass then you got fucked hard by the new rules.
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>>385890498
>better card design, better mechanics
please be bait
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>>385891549
depends on the card usually but ultimate rares post DUEA are all great
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>>385890696
Yugioh has always been the most archetype driven card game.
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>Get the YuGiOh game on the PS4
>End matches in minutes

I always thought the game would last as long as they do in the anime.
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>>385892157
I already know, I found it enjoyable way back when playing casually but I'm willing to adjust. Synchro's have been taking shit for a while if I recall.
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>>385892198
It's the truth.
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>>385890335
It was (keyword:was) simple and amazing when it came out. That and the anime series was great compared to Pokemon.

Then Yugioh GX started and it all went downhill from there.
Added more card types than pokemon and magic combined
Favored OTK decks
Effect monster after effect monster
Long ass card descriptions
Making the game for adhd kids who can't sit and play a card game for more than 30 mins.

What a shame.
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>>385892286
Yugioh didn't even have archetypes until Legacy of Darkness.
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>>385892342
>playing resourceless solitaire for ten minutes during your turn
>good mechanics
>cards that literally refer to each other by name so they're only usable in one specific context or set of cards
>good card design
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>>385890335
I like the monsters
I got an apple magician girl a little while back
very happy
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>>385892451
Meanwhile, magic has never had them
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>>385890335
Well that
1) Magic is shit
2) Pokemon have absolutely nothing to do with yugioh
3) A wide variety of monster designs for everyone to like.
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It makes for better video games since generally the game is faster and with less things to manage.
I prefer tabletops and board games to video games by a large margin, but video games don't require preptime, teaching someone the rules, and almost always allow you to simply play by yourself. Yugioh is a much simpler card game at its core than Magic, but I'd put it similar to Pokemon currently.
Even Links, Xyz and Synchros are easy enough to fit into a 5 minute tutorial. There's a reason Duel Links is one of Konami's most profitable games. It's fast and mindless/.
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>>385890335
>TCG video games
>Satisfying
What? They're all unbearable grindfests with seemingly cheating AIs.

That said, there's no competition anyways. Wizards only has MTGO and Duels, which are absolute garbage. Pokemon has 2 GBC games but they have a solid online client. And Vanguard has 3 3DS games that have not and never will be released in the states.

And it's not like Yugioh has a good video game post 2011 either, because Legacy of the Duelist sucks.
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Well for starters there are games (but a surprising lack of them now)

I'd kill for a new Pokemon tcg rpg or magic one.
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A willingness to tell the rules to go fuck themselves and just make a vaguely related game.
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>>385892387
>long ass card descriptions
>Relinquished literally didn't have "this must be ritual summoned" on the card at first because it had too much text on it to begin with
You're retarded.
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>>385892601
You still have to use mana for everything. You can't just throw a green card in a black deck because it has an effect that would help it.
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>>385892817
>You can't just splash a color
Yes you can?
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>>385892817
So you've never played Reanimator?
Legacy Reanimator doesn't care about mana cost, because it never pays them. Same with Through The Breach or Sneak n Show.
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>>385892817
Phyrexian mana, and color fixing artifacts. You aren't locked to using specific cards, you just need to make the mana. There's tons of different lands and spells that cause you to create mana.

I literally use cards for black but pay life instead so I don't use swamps.
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>>385892074
I started playing YGO in january (never played it in real life but my last time was playing 5Ds 2010 Reverse of Arcadia) and it has been a little bit overwhelming.

I still can't understand what the fuck is going on when I'm playing against a zoodiac.
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Prove me wrong. No protip. You just can't.

Should we post this on /dng/ at /vg/ just for keks and lels?
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Yugifriends, help me understand face-down stuff. Am I allowed to perform certain summoning techniques if the monsters on my side of the field are face-down? I know I can tribute, but can I perform fusion/synchro/xyz/ritual/link if the monster is face-down on the field?
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>>385893023
Animated series isn't supposed to be correct anon.

Punchline sucks too. TP is supposed to be edgy, which would mean Dragon Rulers format. CD-I would be Bandai Cards. Overall poor work. 2/10 try again.
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>>385892909
>>385892962
>>385892992
Look, I know you think you know a lot about Magic, but I know way more, so just stop talking before you embarrass yourselves, okay?
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>>385893219
Didn't make it, I just found it a long time ago and never had the chance to post it.

What should be changed? I like the CD-i one, metafags are annoying.
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Heard you guys were comparing TCGs
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>>385893008
Whenever I play, I just kind of assume whatever they're doing is fine.
I play a stupid Magician deck that I can clown on people with, but I have no idea what people are talking about half the time. I barely understand the vernacular they're using, let alone the context of whatever they're saying.
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>>385893335
Get this shit out of here. I should kill you.
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>>385893285
I accept your surrender.
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>>385893387
Ya got a problem with a great card game ruined by its name?
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>>385890417
>No resource management.
>a good thing

I hope you're just shitposting and don't seriously think this.
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>>385891549
supers before 2006. idk but the card's quality today feels more shitty.
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>>385893201
you can't synchro face-down
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>>385893201
Ritual summons yes (exception being if the Ritual Spell specifies face-up), the rest of those special summons no, the monsters must be face-up on the field
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>Thread full of magicfags spamming "MUH RESOURCES"

lmao fucking idiots
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>>385890417
your cards are your resources
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>>385893491
Not an argument.
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>>385893525
not an argument.
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>>385893525
>MUH RESOURCES
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>>385890335
Because magic games still won't let me kill other people by hurting myself.
I JUST WANT TO BE AN EDGELORD!
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>>385893503
Every game mentioned has that. The issue is that using cards as a resource in YGO means nothing because everyone has ways to turn the graveyard into a second hand
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>>385893629
Burning Abyss was a mistake

Nekroz was a mistake
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>>385892817
Mana isn't archetypes. Yugioh doens't have only 5 archetypes with tons of compatibility. You're a moron.
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>>385890335
The nigger chimp outs over them
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>>385893328
Even if you didn't make it, that doesn't make it not shit.
For starters, a Metagame has always been in the game since set 1, so it doesn't make sense for CD-I to say META because that'd mean the entire game's life and isn't a format nor a golden age.
Secondly, the template is supposed to be OoT gives a straight answer, LoZ gives no-nonsense, WW innocence, TP edgy, AS weird, CD-I punchline.
What it should be is OoT saying GX, because that's when most "normal" people grew out of it, LoZ saying GOAT Control, WW saying non-tryhards, alternatively not having a golden age because he's a kid, TP Dragon Rulers, AS Bandai Cards, CD-I making a season zero or duelist kingdom joke.
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>>385893219
>Implying this isn't edgy
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>muh monster effects - the game
YGO went to shit long time ago
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>>385892495
This. Yugioh is absolutely shitfaced in this aspect. There are too many A card that ONLY work with B card, starting from elemental hero era, and that kills the game for me.

I don't know what's the word. Synergy? Yugioh seems to lack something like that.
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>>385893460
>>385893474
That helps. Thank you.
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>>385893023
>>385893219
>>385893328
>>385893785
>>385893791
Alright how do we trigger /dng/?
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Is there a reason they keep introducing new summoning mechanics, or are they just introducing new gimmicks to keep things "fresh"?

Stopped playing/watching yugioh after the original series

Ignore gx completely

See card games on motorcycles and decide to check out new yugioh because red dragon archfiend looked cool

Synchro sounds interesting, actually synchronizes your deck towards summoning a synchro monster

XYZ sounds dumb/op, but it limits itself with xyz material cost

Stop paying attention just as xyz begins

Come back again

Pendulum- where the cards are spell and monster ???

Link summoning ????

Why are there so many now?
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>>385893626
You know Ad Nauseam exists right? Where you angel's grace or phyrexian unlife so you can't die, play Ad Nauseam to draw your entire deck and go into negative life totals, then playing lightning storm pitching a ton of lands for game.
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>>385894017
The same answer as every other time anon.
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>>385890335
as someone who has played both magic and yugioh these are my thoughts

>Magic
Pros:
>resources prevent nuts out plays on the first turn unless it's RDW, in which case they blow their load and if you live you win
>colors give people creativity while also limiting the cards they can use so certain combinations are a bit more out of reach than others
>a better strategy can still overpower an expensive deck if played well
>rotating the sets prevents too insane combos outside of 2 gametypes
Cons:
>Rotations of the sets lead to a costly game
>Overall price of upper end decks is very high

>Yugioh
Pros:
>More interesting to watch due to much more happening at the starts of games
>variety of cards and decks leads to interesting deck combinations due to the unlimited format being standard
>decks aren't as expensive as Magic
>Though they are still expensive deck staples can be used in any deck due to lack of resource management
Cons:
>going nuts out on the first turn can lock a board and lead to a boring playstyle
>Boss monsters and archetypes are very problematic at times
>money decks can usually autopilot, though sometimes they still need some direction
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>>385893837
Yeah, instead of natural synergy where unrelated cards have effects that can combo well or cover each other, in Yugioh the cards you decide to play dictate what the rest of your deck will be simply because you gotta play all the shit that can only function within its own archetype.
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>>385894017
It got out of control, so the only way to fix it is by breaking it even further.
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>>385894017
>Xyz
is easy as fuck.
>Pendulums
Only confusing until you understand the scales

But basically it is to keep things fresh, and it usually "works" by snapping the game over its knee so that the new summoning system is tier 0. It's pretty fucking dumb.
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>>385893968
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>>385894101
oh, source: casual EDH MTG player, regional TCG YGO player.
Stopped playing YGO though after Shadoll. After that I just watched it crash and burn. Link format is already looking like a huge mess.
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>>385894017
>but it limits itself with xyz material cost
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No. XYZ is Solitaire. The only decision to make is wether you're going to surrender or wait for the autist to stop moving his cards around the field.

Pendulums have two different effects depending on where you put them on the field. It's not Monster + Spell at the same time.
They used to let you spam the field though. Used to.

I'm pretty sure Links were created to balance the game since they limit the amount of extra deck monsters you can summon.
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>>385894045
Also for some reason Death's Shadow slipped my mind, a deck where you intentionally lower your life to make this guy a 1 mana fuckhuge beatstick easy. Earlier lists would start off with cycling street wraiths (-2/4), play a fetch/shock land (-3) and either tarfire self or play thoughtseize (-2), starting the game with 13/11 life.
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>>385893359
Same here. Sometimes I don't even bother asking.
>>385894017
Well, links were supposed to make the game slower kek
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>>385894194
Those are archetypes not ages in the yugioh timeline though.
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>>385894045
But can i do that in a mtg video game?
also pretty sick combo usibg unlife and ad nauseam. I'm gonna steal that
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>>385894302
yeah yea, just change the title
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>>385894310
>I'm gonna steal that
It's not exactly my idea and has been a high power deck since 2011.
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>>385894045
>>385894239
Magicfags pls go.
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>>385892731
While I agree with you that some older cards had paragraphs of text I promise you can't cite half as many cards from the original yugioh wtih effects that long compared to just one season of 5ds sets.
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post them
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>>385894645
Post template
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>>385894645
>Beast

Man I fucking loved that card, ran it in Madolches and just shit on so many meta decks with turn 1 spell negation
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>>385894645
Post the template and I might.
Also
>Slifer
[Egyptian] God tier taste. The amount of Obeliskfags is insane.
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MY MILLENNIUM EYE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RaFsoyYYo
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>>385894645
template

>>385894704
i got you
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>>385890335
What went wrong bros?
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>>385890335

The pokemon card game was never that good but was fun to collect. Magic has potential but are always fucked over by micro-transactions. I just hope someday we can get a free magic version of YGOPRO. In terms of which card game is most fun to play I'd have to hand it to Magic. Magic>Classic Yugioh>Pokemon>NuYugioh
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>>385894468
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
This means i can produce infinite mana with treasonous ogre
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>>385893626
The ORIGINAL mtg combo is hurting yourself with Channel to generate a bunch of mana to use in Fireball
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>>385894616
I'm sure I can't, but pretending that the precedent wasn't there is a bit foolish. It certainly compounded on itself, but the card game was never without paragraphs of text or confusing rulings.
my biggest gripe with YGO comes with the hyper specific tribal support cards. I loved it when it was Thousand Knives or Dark Magic Attack because those felt unique and iconic to an Ace monster, but now half of the cards reference other cards. Everything is built off of each other rather than having a cool effect like Man Eater Bug
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This is my favorite OG ritual monster.

Build me a deck around it.
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>>385894959
>old school vs new school yugioh

Yugioh has always had broken shit, unless you mean Link Summoning then you're an idiot that needs to remove your nostalgia classes.
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>>385894101
as someone who also fits this bill I'd like to add somethings

Magic:
>More interesting interactions like enchanting your opponent or self milling to win the game
>no board size, making token decks viable and unique tokens that can be created by cards
Cons:
>The secondhand market and way reprints are handled is fucking awful
>standard (the equivilant to yugiohs format) is afraid to print good removal for low rarities and when they do it price spikes
>The blocking mechanic can make games drag on and becomes tedious at times

Yugioh:
>Expensive cards can generally be used in most all your decks allowing you to make more jank decks work
>Faster games even vs stall/burn your games will generally end before turn 10 or so regardless of what you're playing, turns just take longer.
Cons:
>While nothing rotates out it's effectively rotated by the use of power creep and banning a key card to the top deck right before the new set comes out
>rulings are a fucking nightmare, this is coming from someone who judged his LGS for 2 years, the fact our rules don't match the OCG is the stupidest shit
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>>385894862
Behold
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>>385890335

Yugioh is backed by Konami and put some actual effort into a handful of their games. Magic/Pokemon card video games were just cash grabs.
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>>385895339
That can't be real.
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>>385895297

I never said it wasn't broken but classic yugioh is still far better than the mess current yugioh has become. Magic is still far far better than Yugioh ever was though.
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>>385895337
That's another huge pro on the magic side. Nothing is more feels good than using pic related and dropping your entire EDH deck face up on a table and asking if anyone can stop you from ending the game.
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>>385895462
it is, the worst part is most of the text could be removed by the use of keywords, I think yugioh is the only big name card game that doesn't use them.
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>>385893440
He's not wrong. Just playing shit is the main appeal with YGO.


Needless to say it brings in a ton of problems.
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>>385895339
>>385895462
It is. I wanted it for my Odd-Eyes Magician deck so it could be my co-boss monster alongside pic related, but it was too expensive when it came out.
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Dark Magician Girl was my first waifu.
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>>385895337
>Magic:
>>More interesting interactions like enchanting your opponent or self milling to win the game
Isn't that what Burning Abyss, Lightsworn, and Skull Servants do?
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To this day I'm still waiting for a respectable 3D MTG game in the vain of the world championship games.
Either that, or a modern MTGO client for consoles. I'd pay for the fucking cards as long as it didn't look like ass.
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>>385895224
>not relinquished
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>>385895337
Oh also also, Rulings in yugioh are more complex than differential equations at some points, and even more so because of it there are times where the banlist hits the wrong card (or they want to keep a card live for another purpose) and it ends up hurting the game. Ones that come to mind are instant fusion, fusion gate, Tyrant neptune just got that ass banned and the FTK is still live for God sakes
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>>385895575
It's gotten somewhat damage. Yugioh now uses terms like pierce instead of deal the difference as lifepoint damage.
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>>385895569
Man I fucking hate plains walkers as both a card type and lore/plot device.
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>>385892723
This game was the shit. I am so disappointed it was the only one of its kind.
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>>385895462
The anime is infinitely worse.
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>>385895690
not really, lightsworns and burning abyss are like dredge where you just want to play using your grave as a second deck.
Skull servants is close to the same strategy but you only want very specific cards in your grave.
I'm talking specifically about cards like pic related.
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is pic related kino?
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>>385894862
>>385895339
I never get why they feel the need to give the cards a zillion seperate effects each that often don't even directly relate to each other.
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>>385896049
i dont understand cards like this
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Okay so why can't FUCKING KONAMI make a vanilla format for tournaments? And a Synchro format. I hate competitive play but I would play an old format in a heartbeat.
They could make a shitload of money just by reprinting OG cards.

Why do they hate money? Aren't they supposed to be jews?

Also posting best girl for (you)s
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>>385896103
Just an old ass fusion card.
None of them were overly good.
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>>385896062
Power creep is how Yu-gi-oh survives.
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>>385892723
Pretty amazing game.
I played this pretty hardcore when I was a kid
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Any recommendation to build a deck around this guy?
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>>385896163
This. Magic has it, don't they? Why can't YGO?
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>want to play Tag Force for waifu
>PSP battery is bloated
>charger doesn't work properly
>not detecting my memory stick

I-I guess I'll play it on emulator.
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>>385896218
these types of cards are ILL EAGLE in tournaments anon.
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>>385896218
What's the point of printing a card like this
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>>385896218
just spend some bucks and play dark magician decks with it.
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>CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES ON HOVERBOARDS
Doesn't quite have the impact that MOTORCYCLES had, huh.
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>>385896260
get a new psp faggot
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>>385896414
so your opponent will concede right before they take the damage thus only losing that game and not the match, hence the reason they're banned.
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>>385896218
If you plan in bringing it anywhere? Look at the bottom left, my friend.

Just build a Magician deck for like 40-50 bucks and you can ruin Ebon Illusion, and Ebon High Magician.
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So is there an actually yu gi oh game where you play cards games on motorcycles

Or is it only in the anime
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>>385895569
>Nothing is more feels good

Oh hai Mark.
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>really interested in vanguard but have no local scene for it
>3DS games are the only way I can play them
>No new one probably ever, stuck in G-04.
>Official Vanguard Online got the axe in development hell.
It really is a shame.
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>>385896414
Match is 3 duels. If it connected, you'd win the 3 match set, but no one would ever let you. Also they're mostly for fun since they're banned everywhere. Even the original Victory Dragon is banned in the current "advanced" format, where it would likely be easy as shit to deal with.
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>>385896493
What do you mean Only losing that game and not the match.
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>>385896820
Match= best of 3 games.
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>>385896690
The NDS one for 5Ds had motorcycle races before it turns into a duel.
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>>385893784
post video nerd
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>>385896820
match is 3 games while a game is just 1/3,
the original victory dragon (same effect as this guy) was unbanned on release but when konami saw people just quiting before dying to the card it causes a lot of issues and wasted time with judge calls, so now all versions are illegal.
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The Yu Gi Oh manga is fucking dope. Yugi is a stone cold killer in that shit.
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>>385896730
>but no one would ever let you.
The problem with it and match winners in general is that the very thing is they can't stop you.
Getting very technical, you are only allowed to surrender on your turn. You scooping with victory dragon attacking directly for lethal means you accept the outcome and lose the match. This almost never comes up though, so almost everyone just forgets and probably never will remember because match winners will always be banned. You cannot say
>I'll scoop in response to you attacking for the match, game 2? :^)
If Victory Dragon connected for game, or the boardstate was so it would, you might as well just walk to the local fastfood joint because it's over.
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>>385896706
>sorcery
Good taste but I've got one that is better
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>>385897020
why not reprint these cards with a clause that they can not attack the turn they're summoned?
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>>385897029
I love this card so much.
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>>385897020
but you're wrong
>A player may concede a game at any time during the course of a Game or Match (including during the
opponent’s turn),

http://www.yugioh-card.com/ygo_cms/ygo/all/uploads/KDE_TCG_Tournament_Policy_1_4.pdf
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>>385890335
Variety in terms of archetype aesthetics. Literally anything is possible in this game. Any sort of battle you can think up is feasable. Samurai vs Aliens, Power Rangers vs Football Players, Speed Racer vs Dante's Inferno, the match ups are endless.
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>>385897020
>A player may concede a game at any time, provided he or she has not been offered or has accepted anysort of compensation for doing so. Players who concede in exchange for cash, prizes, or other incentivesare guilty of Bribery and Collusion, which violate the Konami Penalty Guidelines.
Literally in the rules. Don't lie.
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>>385897195
why did they print these stupid cards if they dont even let their effect work literally ever?
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>>385897408
>>385897195
Shit, I could have sworn there was some arbitrary rule preventing you from doing that. Maybe it's just the DS not having a surrender option during your opponents turn (IIRC) and it just cemented it in my head that it was a thing but no-one cared enough to enforce it because it doesn't matter.
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>>385897497
because at a time they used to "work" konami just thought players wouldn't concede immediately after reading the card and knowing they lost, after they saw people did just concede they decided it was best to just make them prize cards.
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>>385897497
Victory Dragon is the only one widely available.
The other ones are prize cards. It works out because now you don't (or SHOULDN'T IN THE CASE OF MINERVA AND GIANT HAND) get exclusive chase cards that are good and needed for decks since they can just make a match winner a prize.
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It's not, MtG is better in every way.
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>>385890335
the art
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Thinking of doing TF4 on an emulator. Does PPSSPP have a built in gameshark?
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I miss him.
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because
check this 5
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>>385890335

For me it was that you felt really invested in each card you played and that playing aggressively or cautiously was always possible no matter your deck composition

That and even bad cards could keep up with good ones if you played carefully, shit tier traps like Reinforcements could still win you games

It has lost all of these elements, though
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The game is legit still fun, go download duel network, slap together a season one deck and face off against all the early season character decks/ai. You will have fun.
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>>385898220
I agree that it has changed a lot from what it once was
but there's a certain kind of fun in trying your hardest to make shit like Superheavy Samurais work in a tier-2 or higher environment
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YGO might actually be better now since MtG is fucking pandering to the SJWs with their shitty ass new set. Also, not that it has anything to do with race relations, but why the fuck is White consistently the worst color? Board wipe & Token creation don't seem to be the best combo, especially when other colors do the former pretty commonly now.
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Modern Yugioh has a problem and you faggots know it, the last two waves of cards have had to redesign the game from the ground up for fucks sakes.
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Pre synchro and XYZ era is definitely better, but I think those mechanics are actually pretty cool. I wish they had existed earlier so we could have seen non retarded versions of them.
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>>385891806

>Jace
>Marketed towards adults
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>>385898453
>white is the worst color
>has the best removal in eternal formats
> a tutor so strong it's banned in Modern and a staple of entire archetypes in legacy
>Has the face cards of Board Wipes
>Lingering Souls is one of the most value cards ever printed
Shut the fuck up you fucking dunce
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You kidding OP? Current pokemon is more fun than current YGO
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With Links, YuGiOh is a ded game until better, more flexible Links come around that can maybe repair decks that are literally unusable now.
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>>385898834
This, im gonna miss my quasar
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>>385898453
Mono-white sucks because it cares about
>Weenies
>Lifegain
>Boardwipes
>Exile
>Tax
Boardwipes will never be good in white again because we're never going to get another 4 mana wrath, just 5 mana ones with most of the times an "upside". Tax hasn't been supported in years because R&D seemingly hates interaction. Weenies gets outdone better by some combination involving Red half the time, and lifegain is largely irrelevant.
That being said, the exile removal has been very good recently.
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>>385890816
I read that as "50s era" and almost had to check and make sure ygo wasn't 60 years old.
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Folks I wanna get into Magic. Where do I begin?
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>>385893629
>second hand
I havent played the game in a decade but I was so dismayed to learn of the fourth and fifth hands and OTKs that have ruined online CCGs. Shit used to be fun.
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>>385898453
The whole game is weak as fuck now
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>>385898982
Get a high paying job to pay for cards
Acquire wealth
Realize getting into the game isn't worth your time now that you have money
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>>385898163
I think you dropped this.
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>>385891549
>we will never get prismatic rares in starter/structure decks like in OCG
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>>385898982
find out where you can play first of all. Then start watching tutorials and guides on how to get started. I'd recommend Drafting. It's a much more even playing field and costs like 15-20 dollars to do and you keep all the cards you draft.
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>>385898982
How experienced are you with TCGs? Do you expect to play at a kitchen table, mid range FNM, or high level?
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>vs Pokemon
It's already a game
>vs Magic
Is for fucking nerds from TCG origins

Konami made a killing making both an anime/tcg/games all at the same time
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>>385898786
>Lingering Souls is one of the most value cards ever printed
What does this mean?
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>>385898982
buy one of the games on Steam and make sure you actually want to get into it. The game will teach you the basic rules. I've seen some incredibly autistic shit come out of 30+ year old men at my local game shop over rules disputes.

Also it's expensive as fuck, and if you wanna play more than casually then it's arguably more expensive since you'll absolutely NEED the latest and greatest cards to boost your standard deck. You wanna make absolute certain that you wanna do this before you commit to it and decide you don't like it, and buying a ~$20 game and hating it is a lot better than building a ~$150 deck and hating it.
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>>385898982
Learn the rules
Figure out what format you want to play
Look up what the top 8 decks are in said format
Buy one of those decks
Show up at local nerd show
Realize you hate the smell of card game fags
Go home play video games
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>>385891863
EX are technically gone and the ones in rotation dont take top 8 stops like before, you seem outdated.
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>>385899236
It generates a ton of value when cast and flashed back. 4 1/1 flying tokens are no joke.
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>>385890335
>got into duel monsters when it first came out
>collected cards and played with friends for years
>one day decide to sell all my cards to buy vidya
>fast forward to current year
>feel nostalgic and decide to look for the classic decks
>only places that sell them charge hundreds of dollars for them
shit, I knew I should have kept them
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>>385899459
Solution.
Buy singles.
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>>385890606
didnt they change yugioh so you can only ss1 monster from the extra deck now?
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I drew a DaD from a pack back when they were expensive as hell traded it for a couple of cards to finish my monarchs and stopped playing the year after.
Whats the best YGO game on pc/emulation? GX on PSP was hella fun.
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>>385891840
for you
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>>385899801
Kinda, you either get one extra deck monster, or you gotta summon a special kind of extra deck monster that can allow you to summon more extra deck monsters depending on where it's pointing on the board
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Yugioh has been shit since after the GX era
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Because magic is, has and always will be the most boring card game. It's not even the vanilla of card games, it's more like white bread.

And in yugioh's case, no resources means faster games and more leeway to do crazy shit.
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>>385899801
lmao no.
They changed it so if you want to spam you have to buy into Links.

In fact, those solitaire turns everyone bitches about will now be even longer because now because they have to first get out links to do anything.
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>>385899947
>yugioh has been shit since I stopped caring about it
Cool, fresh opinion, my dude
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Has anybody else discovered a fetish because of these cards?

This was the card that lead me down the dark path of degeneracy.
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>>385899931
how does the positioning thing work? this basically fu ks every single deck i have over (pure dragunity rip, quantals) i guess my monarchs sort of still work

>>385899997
so close,

im guessing theres only gonna be one good link that ends up coating $300 and is rarity bumped from common in japan to ultra sr or whatever in the tcg
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>>385899834
Forgot my pic
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>>385900151
neko gal, harpy girl. i have both uncensored
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Rank the anime series. For me it's:

1. Season 0
2. DM
3. 5D's
4. Arc V
5. Zexal
6. GX
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I like duel links, but a lot of the people I play have very samey decks. I have run into a machine deck or and Pegasus deck only once or twice so far in the dozens of pvp games I've done. Too much dragon and spellcaster support.
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I got three friends to play Twitter edition on duel network for a couple of nights, it's normal ban list + ban on all cards with active descriptions of more than 256 characters. It was fun for 24 hours until someone got a meta lead and we realized we'd have to put actual work in to keep up.
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>>385900245
>every plat or higher ranked deck has 3 econ, 3 sphere kuriboh, and 3 mirror wall
nah that game is fucking shit
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Is anyone else salty that all the online dueling sites like duelingnetwork were taken down for the nu/mobage?
>>385900151
I can't remember the name, but the pic of the equip card that was a pendent that gave 700 or so atk was pretty hot.
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>>385900228
>webm
Holy fuck
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>>385900228
pretty much, dont forget the new one.
0
dm
5d = gx
new one
zexal
V
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>>385900330
Malevolent nuzzler or something like that right?
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>>385900228

Zexal is unwatchable, Vrains is doing good except for the copy paste Reader wombo combo that starts every match.
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>>385900282
There should be a continuous spell thats just "ignore all effects from a monster's second sentence and on"
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>>385900228
1. 5D's
2. Season 0
3. DM
4. Vrains
5. GX
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>>385900047
"no"
It's "yugioh has been shit ever since every game started playing out exactly the same way"

>I can't believe I won this game by summoning all my monsters in one turn and then following my archetype's meta to the letter
>it's just like my last game where I summoned all my monsters in one turn and then followed my archetype's meta to the letter
>I wonder what I'll do in my next game
>maybe I'll summon all my monsters in one turn and then follow my archetype's meta to the letter
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>>385900152
When a Link monster's arrow points to a monster zone adjacent to the Link monster, you can summon Extra Deck monsters to that zone. So, if the card points down-left, down, and up, you can place extra deck monsters below and/or below and to the left of the card, and your opponent can place an extra deck monster in front of the Link monster.
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>>385900351
Mindbreak the Aki!
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>>385900047
I watched all of GX.

No one, absolutely no one deserves to go through that pain.
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>>385900352
if it wasn't for the shitty ending and the dragged out synchro arc I would say Arc V is the best series.
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>>385895990
In order for this to work, I had to split it amongst three cards.
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>>385900593
I'm never going to watch the new shows so spoil it for me anon
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Anyone else have any of the original Japanese structure decks? My decks were OP as fuck compared to the lame ass starter decks everyone had thanks to this bad boy.
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>>385900475
5Ds had production issues after 62 eps so no.
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>>385900475
>>385900228
>listing GX as the worst series
>>
Hearthstone is a lot of fun to watch but not to play. Even Duel Links is better and that's the Rpg version of a card game ( oddly fun despite just being a grind for higher attack power).
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>>385900591
I watched the entirety of GX yesterday and I know your pain my dude. I know anime has lower standards than real tv shows, but I honestly can't fathom how something that bad aired on television for 4 years. I'm not even a waifu-fag, but the only reason I kept watching was because of Asuka.
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>>385900717
GX is pretty bad anon. It's better than Zexal, but that's a low bar.
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>>385900717
GX is bad, but it's fun bad which puts its over Zexal and Arc-V for me. That's why I didn't even list those.
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>>385900554
into s/t? are there dual links? thats the only way i can think of using certain combos?

>>385900591
i like the gx ending (japanese version, not english dub which cut the ending)

>>385900649
the plot of v is so boring that its not even worth spoiling (nor can you really)
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>>385890335
>you can mind break waifus in the games
>>
Wizards of the coast has little interest in video game ventures, they want you to BUY RICHARD GARFIELDS CARDS instead
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>>385900959
what
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>>385900905
No, you place it in the special extra deck zone, which is above the 2nd to the right? monster zone. You can only summon into monster zones with a Link pointing at it, or the extra deck zone. You can also summon Links with left and right arrows to summon more than the Link monster in the extra deck zone is pointing to.
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>>385900759
Honestly the character design is pretty good. I love the destiny hero guy and even the edgy "damage in duel is real" guy.

But they were literally used to showcase the newer archetypes, so the only reason to watch the first 102+eps is just because of the duels.
The second half I guess they realize they haven't given Jaden any character depth or a partner so they fabricate a nonsensical story for that purpose.

It lacks authenticity and the genuineness of manga-based works. It reinforced the idea that the show is an advertisement for the game.
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>>385901092
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>>385901059
WOTC is completely retarded and if it not for them owning the rights to incredibly iconic IPs that literally print money, they would have gone bankrupt long ago.
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>>385900713
I always fell like the filler hell between 62 and WRGP is overblown. Yeah, most of them were bad but even so it had Crash Town and still had plot significant episodes like Crow getting his Dragon or introducing Sherry, Bruno/Antinomy, or that one little twit from Ylliaster who used Skiel. Is the bulk of it bad? Yes. Is it bad enough to deter 5DS as a whole? No.
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>>385900384
nice job
>>385900228
1.5d's
2.DM
3.GX
4.arc v
5. zexal
only saw the 1st episode of the new one and it's too early to say
is season 0 worth watching?
>>
>>385900759
Wait until you get to Zexal. I seriously sat there and watched 15 minutes of a Zexal episode before I saw or heard the mention of a Yugioh card. It was about soccer or some shit. Absolute fucking horseshit.

On the plus side though, Arc V has a pretty good reputation as far as the Yugioh anime goes. I hear a lot of people say it's the best since Battle City and/or at least tied with 5D's for second place.
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>>385901206
Season 0 starts where the manga starts basically.
The manga is a better read storywise after that.
But duelwise the (s1+) anime does things better.

>>385901218
Arc-V fell apart somewhere around NotCrow's intro. Latter episodes had extremely low ratings in Japan.
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>>385900325
It's true there should be more limited cards, with a deck size of 20 it's piss easy to draw that shit.
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>>385901218
thats the same reason i hate ffx, boccer or whatever
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>>385901218
I'm going in order so I'm at 5D's episode 8. Seems better than GX so far, but the whole motorcycle thing is silly.
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>>385901206
I'm surprised i got the card name right.
It's been almost 10 years since i played yu-gi-oh.
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>>385901218

It's pretty alright, but takes way to long to get into the 'real' plot, about 30-50 episodes. The early slice of life stuff doesn't have the filler aftertaste though.
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I wonder what the second half of 5ds would have looked like if one of the actors didn't end up getting wrapped up in a cult and they had to scrap the entire concept. I genuinely really like the first half.
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>>385901383
>Latter episodes had extremely low ratings in Japan.

Where did you check this? I'd like to know how GX did in ratings. I'm hoping the ratings were garbage because it would give me hope for humanity.
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>>385901475

Malevolent Nuzzler, Sword of the Deep Seated and Cursed Axe

All "I'm winning but I want to win more" cards
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>>385901387
get a load of this guy
probably an al bhed as well
aurochs and besaid not machina and al bhed ok
praise Zanarkand
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>>385901585

Axe of Despair
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>>385901383
I remember watching the first few episodes and dropping it.
Is it worth all the 5's
and other memes?
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>>385901470
You'll learn to like Riding Duels. They become the greatest shit later.
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>>385901149
Dafuq, this is no longer card games.
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>>385901470
damn thats some tasty armpits right there
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>>385901658
what the fuck are you saying? ff7 was straight to the action, x and xiii have you doing long winded mundane shit.
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>>385900228
5D's Dark Signers > Arc-V Pre-Synchro > DM Battle City > VRAINS > DM0 > ZEXAL II > GX Post-Spirit World > DM Pegasus and Millennium World > ZEXAL > GX Pre-Yubel > 5D's Post-Dark Signers > DM Virtual World and DOMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie: Pyramid of Light >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arc-V Post-MCS Tournament
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>>385901585
>>385901660
My brother ran all of those cards.
That mother fucker.
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>>385901748
say that to my face fucker not online see what happens
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>>385901764
WASTED
CHARACTER
DESIGNS
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>>385901764
What did you think of new yugioh movie, dark dimensions?
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>>385901792
>That mother fucker
Good. You know what you must do, card his ass.
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>>385901149
that strains my body physically to see
should i play the game?
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>>385901838
ill fight you irl, but know your messing with a furry so i have 16,000,000 back up armies
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>>385901917
Objectively it's a bad movie because even Kaz' new ruleset for it made absolutely no sense, but at the same time it's such a massive nostalgiaboner that you can't help but enjoy watching it. It's the ultimate guilty pleasure. I get shounen chills every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB6wUWHufII
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>>385901838
hey wakka did you know Lulu a slut and sucked the entire Al Bhed team while you were playing?
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>>385902005
so what your saying is, furries hunt in packs?
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>>385902013
I was meh about the movie even being a huge yugioh fan. But I enjoyed the credit scene with Kaiba and Atem. Dude is so in love with atem.
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>>385901470
Man, Anzu gets my dick hard but she goes to Murrica to study "dance" so she canon gets BLACKED. Which of the Tag Force has season 1 characters anyway?
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>>385901939
>Hey? You remember that game we used to play? Yugioh
>Yeah, I guess.
>You still have your cards by any chance? I found my old ones I'm feeling nostalgic
>Sure
>go over and whip out something like True Dracos.
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>>385902132
I know how you feel. It hurt that Kaiba couldn't win against Yugi just once.

>>385902163
Tag Force Special has DM characters, but Anzu isn't one of the characters with a storyline, not to mention that TFS is a half-coded piece of trash that was unironically made to prove that Tag Force games are dead and Konami needs to focus on Duel Links.
>tfw waifus are dead forever
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>>385901582
The Top 10 most disliked anime episodes on NicoNico were all taken up by latter episodes of Arc-V. It was hilarious.
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>>385902095
and we yiff in numbers beyond compression
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>>385901582
You can look it up on Nico Nico. Japan has awful taste because they have a hard-on for the most basic shounen tropes, so their ratings are DM > ZEXAL > GX > 5D's > Arc-V. Arc-V's rating is justified, and 5D's is semi-justified because it turned into garbage after episode 64, but they were already rating it low when the first GREAT episodes were coming out.
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>>385902226
now we're talking.
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>>385901764
>Millenium World that low
>Orichalcos THAT low

Ye of little faith, when I am done with you I'll make a believer out of you.
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>>385902441
Millennium World Arc is bad by design because Kaz was LITERALLY dying and didn't know heads from tails -- or rather, heads from penises. Zorc Dragon Dick is a thing. No only that, DOMA Arc is bad because not only is it filler, it's entirely forgettable except for MONSTAH CAHDO and AIBOUUUUUUUUUUU.
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>>385901693
I don't like Yuya as an MC he's kinda lame. Side characters are okay. Honestly I only really like DM and 5Ds before production issues. I'll wait a bit before watching VRAINS.
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God dammit I need new yugioh video games
I hope those rumors about that new sony handheld are true.
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>>385900698
>that tiny fucking face on kaiba
it looks almost shopped
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>>385902561
Watch it for Aoi.
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>>385890335
I never got the appeal. I only played Yugioh for like a minute. Seriously to it was about a minute of playtime. I sat in for a buddy at school one time and made some plays or whatever you would call it.

Besides that I did like the show a bit. However I just was never that into it and eventually stopped caring at all. I loved the Pokemon trading card game for GBC.
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>watched 3 episodes of VRAINS
>setting is Digimon Cyber Sleuth with CARD GAMES ON HOVERBOARDS
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>>385901764
Arv-V should have stayed on top or at least not fall as far as it did. Why did it end up that way?
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Have the link rules and restrictions been forced into tournaments yet?
Did monarchs, nekroz or dare I say....noids make a comeback yet?
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>>385902647
into the vrains
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>>385902836
Yes
No
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>>385902825
setting is actually MegaMan EXE, nigga.
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>>385902521
>not only is it filler

People cared more about it than YugiOh R, and that one was canon.

> it's entirely forgettable except for MONSTAH CAHDO and AIBOUUUUUUUUUUU.

So you're in it for the memes?

The condition that you die if you play "the" card is a bit over the top, but besides that the story was great. Atem got some real character development and so did Mai and Joey. Kaiba faced the truth of his father's wrongdoings and actually felt sympathy for someone that's not called Mokuba.
Millenium World is spectacular and would work perfect as a movie set in Egypt (or at least a virtual one). The potential for choreographies in Monster fights is great.
The story is the best of them all and Zorc having a dick doesn't really take away from it, there's been far more weirder stuff in YGO anyway.
The downside is the anime included the Kaiba/Kisara backstory but Kaz did not have the luxury to do so.
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>>385903012
>The power of kindness
Oh yes, that's so much better than the ancient Egyptian magic of "draw whatever card you want and win millions of dollars in prize money."
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>>385902828
Arc-V suffered from having:
A) A reduced animation budget since ZEXAL took it all;
B) Hiring so many high-cost seiyuus that eventually the main characters had to stop talking;
C) Public relations actively spoiling the show in an attempt to garner attention instead of letting the show explode by word of mouth HOW FUCKING RETARDED DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO SAY THAT JACK ATLAS IS COMING BACK IF YOU HAD JUST LEFT HIS SILHOUETTE IN THE THIRD OPENING THE INTERNET WOULD HAVE ERUPTED INTO BEGGING FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN ARC-V LIKE GODDAMN HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT BADLY
4) Unnecessary script changes that caused the story to pivot completely;
5) A third of the show unironically being filler, with the two best villains, Sergei and Roger, being written out (and Sergei's BDSM archetype being replaced with nostalgiafagging);
6) An unlikable MC who never properly developed; unlike Yuma who converted people with the power of KATTUBINGU, Yuya would just brute-force people to accept his opinion, and the writers let it happen;
7) A complete bastardization of once-beloved characters, as well as the unsanctimonious misuse of Super Poly;
8) A fucking Performapal for everything
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>>385902886
>No
Well I guess links sure accomplished their job of "slowing down the game".
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>>385902561
I meant og toei animation 1999 yugioh.
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>>385903093
His kindness spared Kaiba's life.

Yugi would've lost against Marik if Kaiba wasn't around and thus his entire life purpose destroyed because of his own ruthlessness.
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>>385902647

Into the Vrains

No filler plox
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>>385903095
>An unlikable MC
>>385902561
>I don't like Yuya as an MC
Whats not to like?
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>>385902647
INTO THE VRAINS

>>385903312
Let me list my reasons.
>egao
>YUZU
>egao
>YAMERO
>egao
>TOU-SAN
>egao
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>>385903096
The new Master Rules were never going to slow down the game. Anyone who actually thought that needs to play more Yugioh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tscfwwLImg4
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>>385892312
You never played YGO before? In the cartoon they spend half the episode explaining every card effect, 1 quarter showing attack animations and another quarter on people explaining the plot, so of course the actual game is much quicker.
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>>385903095
>A, B, C, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
>Arc-V was so bad, it messed up anon's sequential ordering
Holy shit. The ride doesn't end.
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>my first older sister-figure fantasy
>was never an anime watcher, but shipped them hardcore
>They never get together

Why Kazuki? Just why? ;_;

I was hoping I'd get to see them interact in the new yugioh movie, but the only thing worth watching in that movie was anzu because they made her so hot for some reason and the ending with atem and kaiba.
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>>385902271
I forget, did Arc-v also manage to overtake "the black screen"s spot as well?
I had tapped out at the point when it was the only non arc-v episode still on the list.
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>>385903312
>SMILE DUEL
>SMILE DUEL
>SMILE DUEL
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>>385903372
>Synchro spam is still a thing
brb getting back into Yugioh
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>>385903363
So explain this blue girl to me.
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>>385893335
what a horrible layout
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>>385903530
top kek
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>>385901764
>ZEXAL 1>anything but Arc V
>ZEXAL > GX Pre-Yubel
>Arc V that high (the early episodes has only a few good episodes and nowhere near Dark Signers arc levels )
>5D's Post-Dark Signers that low

correct top 5 is
5D's Dark Signers > DM Battle City > 5D's Post-Dark Signers > Zexal II > GX Pre-Yubel

also people should seriously stop lumping DM0 when talking about YGO, DM0 is like the tetris of plebeian video game top 10 lists.
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>>385903372

How do current fans defend the solitaire bullshit? Guy played by himself for 3 minutes real time and then ate Mirror Force and Dark Hole, the dedicated counters for this bullshit, and won on turn 2.

How is this fun?

Shit, Vrains literally has a copy paste combo at the beginning of every game and they only last 3 turns, points for realism I suppose.

If they wanted to make it easy to use your cool cards whenever why didn't they just get rid of tributing? Turn 1 double Twin headed thunder dragon is more fun than this.
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>>385903547
Because Jou was 16 and Mai was 24. It wouldn't be appropriate.

>>385903610
>be Aoi Zaizen
>have your parents die in a car crash
>become extremely attached to your older brother
>scratch that, become a full-blown brocon for him
>like you'd wear a dog collar and lick his shoes if he asked you to because it would make him happy brocon
>have autism, be flat, and look like a boy so older brother doesn't love you back
>get super-depressed about it
>go into the VRAINS and become a pop-idol with a pretty face, a hot body, and huge tits
>whole world loves you
>finally get self-confidence because now you're a whore
>want to tell older brother that you're the whore he watches duel all the time so maybe he'll finally love the IRL you
>turns out he KNOWS you're the whore he watches all the time and he still hates the IRL you
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>>385903095
>as well as the unsanctimonious misuse of Super Poly;

Arc V is the first YGO show that I dropped, what happened?
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>>385891549
i'm pretty fond of that parallel rare that came out in the duelist saga. The mirror forces look pretty cool n it.
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>>385903610
Pretty bland main heroine design.
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>>385903012
R wasn't canon, it was a spinoff
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>>385903869
>doesn't like "plain" designs

manwithnotaste.jpg
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>>385903949
I like her real world look, it's the Miku avatar that doesn't do it for me.
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>>385903859
Yuri, Yuya's Fusion counterpart, owns a Predator Plant deck. However, he chose not to use it when dueling against Asuka (Alexis from GX), and instead used the Ancient Gear Structure Deck that was being sold in Japan at the time. He won the duel by using Super Polymerization to bring out an Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem, and then immediately turned Asuka into a card. It was Asuka's first real duel in the show. She was brought back to job. Not only that, it was used to shill the structure deck, when Rank-Up-Magic cards and Double Tuning were treated with the utmost respect. Everyone got extremely angry at Director Ono because he continually shat on Fusion the entire run of the show.
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>>385903856
>turns out he KNOWS you're the whore he watches all the time and he still hates the IRL you
Fucking what.
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>>385903856
>Because Jou was 16 and Mai was 24. It wouldn't be appropriate

Since when the fuck does Japan care about age of consent? 90% of the anime they put out actively encourage loli shit and incest. The word "appropriate" doesn't exist in the Japan language. Literally pioneered loli/pedophilia fetish and created millions of degenerates world-wide.
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>>385904008
I was like you once but then the pits and increased cup size changed my mind, but I still prefer her real world look.
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>>385903012
>The downside is the anime included the Kaiba/Kisara backstory but Kaz did not have the luxury to do so.

Milenium Arc was the lowest in quality animation im surprised they manage to end it in a decent one. But adding the "not duel disk" was dumb. Also the good thing is that Bakura proven that he was the real villain from the series
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>>385903856
>>turns out he KNOWS you're the whore he watches all the time and he still hates the IRL you
this is my fetish
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>>385903856
Mai was not 24, she was the same age as Jou, maybe a year older. I don't know why Kaz didn't develop their relationship, even the Orichalcos saga teased us to no end
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>You will never win a game of Yu-Gi-Oh! and subsequently get stalked by a a qt grill, causing a power failure in your neighborhood as a creepy bystander looks on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaqH3Zmn4BM
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>>385903312
He started out fine, but never became his own character. People kept telling Yuya to be himself, but he never did. He showed a change of resolution maybe one time, but fell back on his old habits again. He also didn't place his priorities in order. He treated playtime and a crisis as one in the same.
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>>385904070
>He won the duel by using Super Polymerization to bring out an Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem

thanks for the rundown.
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>>385904206
Mai's profile in the Japanese Gospel of Truth states she's 24 years old. She's also 175cm tall, 52kg in weight, blood-type O, loves penne arrabiata, and hates durians.
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>>385904207

>That animation

Zone?
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>>385891069
>Cyberdark Impact
God what an absolute shitty pack that was
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>>385904306
>Hates durians
Is that really a character trait? I mean any normal human hates those fucking things
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Arc-V was horrible but the threads were the most fun in /a/ specially the entire Yuya and Yuzu thirst for each other
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>>385904592
Have this. I might start posting Japan's Arc-V memes if enough people are interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrvYMlyW_PM
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>>385904306
>24
>checked the wikia and is true
Now i see why he didn't want them to be paired. I used to believed she was 16, too.
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>>385891549
Ultra, gold for extra deck
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But guys what about DUEL Masters
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>>385904592
So why the fuck did the love interest go evil again?
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>>385904592
the best.
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>>385890498
>yugioh has a good card design
The fact that pot of greed is a thing that ever existed proves you wrong
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>>385892495
>>385890606
And that's why modern yugioh is bad while classic yugioh is best.
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>>385904803
Could you give me a refresher on that particular cards effect?
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>>385904207
>Atem
>losing to Mai
fucking gurl power porpaganda

>>385904671
are they translated? post them anyways

>>385904789
I hope VRAINS can provide better materials for edits and crazy fanarts
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>>385904873
Nice meme.
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>>385904780
Yuzu didn't go evil, she got fucking bodied by a BDSM enthusiast and got thrown off the track while going about 200KMH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6-wKtF9AE
>>385904752
GET IN THE BAH-TULL ZONE
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>>385904780

>Atem was married, an adult, and loved his wife
>Yugi tries to force him on a date with a school girl so he can lose his virginity by proxy

Most fucked up part of the show
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>>385904780
>>385904592
What could have been
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>>385904873
le funny meme

Pot of greed really has to be one of the most ridiculous cards ever created
There is no situation where you wouldn't want to have pot of greed in your deck

not only draws 2 (so basically +1 card) it also cycles trough your deck so it has more value than just 2 additional cards.
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I wil never fporgive Ono for this. This scene was the solid 10 scene between the two only to get sucked to the other dimension and be separated one more time, again
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God, I hope vrains doesn't suck.
It's already looking bad because speed duels
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>>385904880
>I hope VRAINS can provide better materials for edits and crazy fanarts
we can only hope.
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>>385905091
>>385905147

if anything i learned from /a/ is if the show gets bad the memes become good
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>>385905147
>Shinji
good times
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>>385905062

Spell per turn limit fag

PoG balanced
>>
What is the best console yugioh game?
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Shh... City police are sleeping
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So I just got Tag Force 4 from emuparadise, but it's not an iso but instead a folder full of odd files with no extensions. How do I load this?
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>>385904880
Turns out I can't fucking post any goddamn Arc-V memes because of a shit-ton of strikes on YouTube. I'll keep trying, though.
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>>385905291
I always loved that wannabe MC vibe he gave off, you just new he was cannon fodder waiting to happen.
He will be missed.
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>>385905186
I learned that lesson with /v/ and Zero Time Dilemma.
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>>385904880
Here's a starter pack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XcN3gHsLxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2t6DM7eHXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZjrkD4jRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzwyLcDk_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTi9fMHKX0
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>>385905389
Quit slacking and get back work!
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>>385904671
>>385905428
Remember Durbe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leiduBL0tL4

>>385905485
I hate-love Arc-V because despite the awful direction, it brought a lot of EGAO in my life with the posting every weekend
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>Arc /v/ posting
ah, memories...
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>>385905710
If we're expanding...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRqG_DaBqos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFUt14-0LM
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>>385905797
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFUt14-0LM
fuck, this was one of the first MAD yugioh vids I've seen. Still love it to this day. I also remember this other opening they used scenes from that episode Atem and Anzu "dating", it was a good but can't remember the name of the opening nor the anime
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>>385905785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFUt14-0LM
The single best moment in the entire show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oe2RlnV98k
The single best moment from the entire general.
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>>385905785
>>385905901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fapq1BU6z28
Fucked up that first hyperlink.
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>>385905785
same, I hope rains delivers the same kind of threads
>>385905710
I always loved the Jaden worship pics.
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>>385905901
>you will never experience Arc-V threads ever again
A-at least my voice and image macro has made it into history...
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>>385906008
I love Yuki worship pics, because in all honestly he wasn't a bad character. I also hope VRAINS delivers this warm feeling again.

>>385906069
Let's hope /v/rains gets equal or above arc /v/ posting.
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>>385890417
LP
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>>385905710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPNNSiGQbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNU5tBN72g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcE4z76brcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOhseuh2Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXg0komAlMc
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>>385900228
1. 5D's
2. DM
3. Season 0
4. GX
5. Zexal
6. Arc V

I mean Zexal was pretty cringe worthy but Arc V annoyed me more then anything. There's quite a few reasons but I liked some of the duels in late zexal over most of the Arc V duels. Oh and thanks for bringing Asuka back for nothing only to lose at every fucking duel.
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DM is the must watch
GX is the comfy one
5D is the cool one
ZEXAL is the slow one
Arc-/v/ is the fun one for the wrong reasons
let's see what /v/rains becomes when is done.
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>>385905371
From what I played,
>dark duelist souls
One of my favorites but in a nostalgia way (it's old and doesn't use conventional rules but it's comfy to play)
>stairway to duels, duel academy GX
also good. follows more the rules. this is when it starts asking too many questions on every single phase which is annoying
>sacred cards
this one is a rpg which is nice, felt somewhat short when I played but good
>world championship 2006
just started playing and wow, it is comfy. it is set in a nice stage of the tcg where things are more advanced compared to the games I mentioned but not that powercrept. >enemy uses gravity bind >win with ebon magician burn.
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>>385906360
V-Rains has been pretty decent so far to say the least. Now give me 3 reasons why you like or dislike V-Rains
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>>385905423
get tag force special instead i dunno.
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I still can't believe they forgot to add the back cover design, then again im not sure why they change it, this one was ok
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What's the Fireball/Channel combo of YGO?
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AKI MAKES ME HARD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJbiH7dEhE
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>>385906521
I personally don't like Yusakus design, I feel like arcv ate into too many good yu- designs (and even names).
Although I do like Aoi.
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>>385906630
Trickstars.

>>385906674
This image will never NOT be erotic.
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>>385906521
1.- Yusaku is autistic
2.- Ignis (Ai) and Yusaku interaction is reversed Yuma and Astral
3.-I like how Yusaku and Aoi are two autistic students made for each other
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>>385906630
so you just lifegain and try not to take damage until turn 3?
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>>385906630
Wouldn't it just be Winged Dragon of Ra?
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>>385906630
Ignore this attentionwhore
>>385906707
The real combo deck you're thinking of is called Life Equalizer OTK.
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>>385906783
>3.-I like how Yusaku and Aoi are two autistic students made for each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVye5G673xY
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>>385906783
>ping pong match
>movie budget
>long boring arc

Arc /v/ suffered the most between all YGO seasons
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>>385906783
2nd reason is pretty accurate. Not really digging the chemistry between Ignis and Yusaku. Feels kinda meh.
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>>385906674
>those girl backs
Nice.
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>>385906630
This and Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon + Megamorph.
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>>385906859
something i don't get is that yusaku's body gets digitalize? Because is too risky to leave his body at the hall

>>385906913
oh, my 3 reasons are things that I like. Yusaku is too cold so having someone cheerful breaks the ice, Kinda the same when yusei had to be with someone cheerful so his seriousness doesn't kill the mood
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>>385906909
>long boring arc
Could not fucking agree more. Shingo and Sora were the only characters I liked that show, anything else I probably forgot or did not care for much. And fuck that shivers boy to hell, he can go eat a dick. Also question about your picture. Why is Shingo's face on with bunch of gen 1 cards? They might have as well have went with Yugi's picture instead but oh well.
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>>385906859
damn he sounds old as hell.
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>>385906598

That card is so tiny

Baby card meta when?
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>>385907193
I don't know enough about VRAINS to answer that, the only things I do know are that everyone else has their corporeal body left behind while their mind links up to VRAINS, that everyone is 90% sure that Revolver is Hot Dog Man's lost brother, and Yusaku is missing a lot of his memories. He might be an AI, but who knows?

>>385907287
It's a meme image because one of Shingo's most memorable lines is "THEY'RE TRASH CARDS FOR A TRASH DUELIST LIKE YOU!" The back of the box lists more absolutely useless DM-era cards.
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>>385907354
Oh right I forgot he said that early on in the show before he became friends with Yuya. That makes sense then
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I like Pendulum summoning. Especially if I spam dragon dicks from a!l the summoning methods. Come at me
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Are you guys interested in a tag OG duel? Only cards from DM.

Room is /v/, password is vidya
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>>385907415
also Morinphen is kinda a joke card in Japan for how useless it is, same goes for shapesnatch
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>>385907494
speaking of pendulum, how many fucking luster,solder, true king, pendulum turkey birdman knight cards are we gonna get. Shit is ridiculous.
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>>385907494
I like it too. Especially if I'm spamming fusion monsters and destroying my own shit.
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>>385891549
Parallel rare was always my favorite because I read somewhere that just touching the card degrades it's shine. Ghost is a close 2nd though because it's hilarious that making the art harder to see makes the card insanely more valuable.
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vrains starter deck worth buying?
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>>385910114
the new pack may help support it, but for now it's not worth it.
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>>385907734
I mean, you say that, but look at all the incarnations we've gotten of Gaia the Fierce Knight.
Like, they have a raging boner for making Gaia a part of every card type. I believe the only type(s?) we don't have of Gaia is a Ritual version and a Pendulum version.
We have the vanilla OG Gaia, any one of the like, 5 effect Gaias, about 3 Fusions, Gaia the Thunder Charger (Rank 6 XYZ), the vanilla Synchro Gaia, and now the Link version of him too.
Like, holy crap. It's almost as bad as Dark Magician / Blue Eyes, except he's spread across everything.
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I'm currently on episode 14 of yugioh 5d's. Why is this child so adorable? Maybe it's the VA.
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>>385904752
This, duel masters is fucking great and is underrated as fuck

it's bascially just magic with a more eastern art style tho
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>>385890335
The early duels of the planeswalkers games were pretty dank.

Really the only answer is that it's the only one that's got a lot of videogames. It's really just a shit game.
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>>385910893
I wanna hold hands with and rape him(female)
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>Ban a card effect
>Make more cards with the same effect
>They're immediately banned too
What's the point?
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>>385903703
What's wrong with the layout besides having the monster stats on the side?
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>>385915225
money
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What the fuck is up with Zexal's character designs? How do you manage to make a catgirl this unappealing?
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>>385890335
yu fag oh
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You're hanging out at the club with your Mystical Elf when this guy shows up and slaps her ass. What do you do?
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>>385892312
There are certain matches that can take forever if you use the story decks and play by the old rules. In that one Joey vs. Weevil match, he ended up getting me with the Insect Net and I couldn't do anything to attack him since Joey's never heard of Mystical Space Typhoon, and I just had to put up a monster too strong for him to destroy (his own Insect Queen), and wait for him to deck himself out. Playing with Pendulums, duels rarely go beyond ten rounds.
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Looking for a phone that can run PPSSPP and the English translation of this

>over 7000 cards
Has any game had more?
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>>385895339
Wait, how do you set it as a Pendulum if it's a Synchro monster? Do you have to set a Tuner as a Pendulum first or something?
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Who Wins?
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>>385916301
There are effects that let you move it to the pendulum zone. Before that you just regularly synchro summon it
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>>385896049
>Fusion monsters were such shit that they had to devote an entire anime era to making them less shit
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>>385916301
last line of his monster effect. also if i remember there was a card a couple packs ago that just let you special summon from your scale or just put a monster in there.
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DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T SAY IF I WERE YOU
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>>385916893
>special summon from your scale
i got you

>>385915885
i really love special for having tag force gameplay but with a much larger card pool and having the actual ocg card packs, but i hate how the english patch is meme overload
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I played Legacy of the Duelist lately out of curiosity. I built a Qli deck, and at least in this game where Pendulums were still new, this deck is absolute fucking cancer that I've been able to completely destroy the CPU with. Was it ever a good archetype in tournaments, or does this game just not have appropriate counters for it?
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>>385917442
nah this was what i was trying to remember, but i never really liked meteorburst dragon dispite him being one of the few cards i've kept in my extra deck since making my pendulum deck.
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>>385904873
During one of your Main Phases, you may choose to Excavate the top two cards in your Deck; and if you do, add them to your hand; and if you do, destroy this card. You must have an open space in the back row of your field in order to activate and to resolve this card. If this card is destroyed by the effect of a Trap, Spell, or Effect, then place it in the Graveyard. If this card is banished by the effect of a Trap, Spell, or Effect, then remove it from play.
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>>385917706
Yeah, Qlis were really strong for their time. They helped me carry Chazz's shitty partner deck in Tag Force Special.
There were two ways to play it, which are either to summon Towers on turn 1, or to play it with a ton of traps/stunshit like Lose 1 Turn.
The former is countered by beating it in battle with things like Honest, and the latter is countered by Duster and Denko Sekka.
Of course, you can't really expect AI to counter-play that well.
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>>385896049
What a waste of paper
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>>385906790
I normally see it play out more that they get mana granting cards, self burn for most damage, and chip for victory.
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The YuGiOh anime, for how silly and bad and edgy it was, was extremely fun to watch. GX had more cringe and more edge, but was still fun. Card Games On Motorcycles was a blast, almost as good if not better than the original. Zexal, Arc V and anything else they make is absolute garbage for whatever reason. Plus the card game itself got really stupid around GX where you had card specific cards. (for example Jaden having spell cards relating to one monster card and nothing else)

Sometimes I want to make a deck but I realize my autism and the rules around competitive YuGiOh would make me spend a lot of time and money on something that I ultimately wouldn't be very good at because unlike when I was a kid people don't play for fun. They play to win.
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>>385895706
Magic duels was pretty decent until they discontinued support for it and it kinda died.
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>>385918382
but Zexal was fun as fuck and ARC-V was good up until Synchro
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>>385892723
I inironically thought this was one of the best Yu Gi Oh games
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I still buy yugioh cards in 2017
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>>385891917
If you keep losing to Storm try running some hate for it.
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>>385919339
i do to. I just really like to see what i can get.
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>>385919339
havent bought any trading cards since Zatch Bell had some
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>>385890335
well pokemon is kiddy trash and magic has ugly art

yugioh has a good balance of gameplay and looks (or had atleast, the pendulum shit is retarded)
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>>385890816
nah. since GX.
Cyber dragon OTK and Harpies NO FUN ALLOWED just from the top of my head.
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>it's a back at MY time watching the cartoons, YGO was good thread

Post your favorite card
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>>385919745
>yugioh has a good balance
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
ZOODIACS
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What's the best pre-GX Yu-Gi-Oh game?
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>>385892723
I bought the english version at a german gamestop, played it for like an hour and got my money back, why the fuck wasnt it german
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>>385919745
Yugioh is nowhere near balanced.
If you fall in love with an archetype that doesn't get enough support or isn't strong enough, or your extra deck isn't filled out with some sick shit, you are shit out of luck against decks that actually have those things 90% of the time.

You will get shut down, fucked up and shit on even with amazing draws.
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>>385917706
Is there any way to play Legacy of the Duelist in native 2560x1440 resolution? The cards' texts looks pretty fucked up
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>>385920552
World Championship Tournament 2004
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>>385921034
just fall in love with meta bro
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>>385921817
Meta makes me wanna projectile vomit violently across the walls.
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>>385921862
sucks to be you then

you would probably drop your fav deck if it becomes meta
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>>385921817
That's the solution to every broken game ever.

It's a solution in the same way signing your soul over to the devil is a solution.
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>>385890335
Because there's this qt
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YuGiOh went to shit because it became more complicated and kids hate math
Eveytime I tried playing a match everything would become a cluster fuck
Some of the effects of the cards were just poorly explained or had to be actived on a blood moon
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>>385903312
When you manage to be the biggest Mary sue in the same franchise as Jesus Fudo you know you've fucked up
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>>385922176
who gave you permission to post literally my picture
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>>385922086
It still a solution. It's great when you and your opponent are playing top tier shit, handtrapping each other and stopping their plays and who wins comes down to clutch moments. Plus you're getting good too.

You either play at the same level as your opponent or you'll never enjoy playing. Might as well stop doing.
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>>385894769
Slifer and Obelisk are both shit.

Ra is were it's at. Vanilla Ra + Spehere + Phoenix ad infinitum.
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>>385919956
>true king dino player
<spoiler> partician taste my man. Decks fun as fuck. Not as good as true draco desu, but a million times more fun </spoiler>
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>>385901470
Aki is so fucking hot holy fuck. Who came with his design?
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>>385922438
We're getting close tho. Let's hope Konami don't hit Oviraptor too hard.

I'm still going to play after banlist.
7 years playing YGO and it's my favorite deck.
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tfw like some zoo cards but they going to get obliterated by the banlist
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>>385902334
Khimari, pls.
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>>385891917
>He doesn't run time stop or split second cards to negate storm
Hahahaha!
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>>385916368
>pokemon card with most text still more readable than average YGO meta
How konami will ever recover
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>>385918382
You can still build your own decks and test them in the games, anon. I recommend Tagforce!
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inb4 some mod deletes the thread
>>385890335
resource management and ygo has a banlist while pokemon and MTG force you to play new shit
unrelated note:
tfw wageslaving yesterday and a cute little girl and her grandmother come up to me and ask for "a card game with a guy with spikey hair" and then goes on to mispronounce Weiss Scharz.
A little girl just the other day was informing her grandparents the difference between GX and EX pokemon cards
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who here is RISE CHICKEN ARISE
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>>385923850
For a second i assumed she was going to say Vanguard.
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>>385924042
"and make sure you say final turn when you're about to win"
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Remember when this was considered a good card?
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>>385924484
what kind of dumbass playground did you play yugioh in? that card was trash even by og standards


I
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>>385924484
Remember when this card was banned?
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>>385892723
I still regularly pop this game in. Seriously, has any game ever bent the rules like this and done it well? I was surprised they had a pretty unique animation for every card attack.
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>>385919238
Because it is
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>>385924606
pulled thise and laval chain in the same gold series pack.
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>>385898982
basically this >>385899063
and also realize that the game has also been infected by the social justice plague refer to that one event 10 months back
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>>385923971
Rank-up searcher fucking when?
The deck is shitty enough as it is, why couldn't Konami give it more consistency?
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>>385922686
I hope oviraptor doesnt get hit. Though it is slightly broken. I played tellars and mermails before, but none were as fun and silly as dinos.
our time will be when diagram is hit to 1 and we will still have 2 lost worlds, which isnt a bad card just not as good as diagram
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