>Kotaku is bad at a simple shooter >blames people for using

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>>385843361

>motion controls
>optimal

o i am laffin

Why?

>>385843423
Motion controls are the closest that come to mouse controls on console, and on top of that you have an analogue stick, so you have more precise movement than m+k.

What the fuck, motion controls are literally the best way to play this game.

Someone post GameJournalist_Doom.webm

>>385843604
>more precise than m+k
Do consoles turn people stupid nowadays?

>>385843604
Any precision is wasteed given that the game is only 12.5Hz tickrate and involves you spraying cum on the opponent instead of shooting them.

Why is he trying to get the other team to gimp themselves? Is he that bad?

>>385843768
No, there are just a lot of stupid people who play consoles.

Just looked up the article; it's written in jest. He's not actually buttblasted.

>>385843604
It's not more precise, but it's almost on par with m+k. Still way better than twin stick.

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Jesus cast down the man who wrote this article

>>385843802
Can you not get to level 10?
Or into the single player?
Or into Salmon Run?

>>385843802
>tickrate

The fuck is tickrate?

>>385843361
>can't understand satire
First Splatoon did have journalists unironically telling people to turn off motion controls. This faggot probably would be the same except it's Splatoon so he can play captain hindsight.

>>385843931
I checked with the archive. He's clearly so god damn terrible he wants at least a chance of not being Dunkey tier bad at videogames and maybe score over 500p for once in his life.

>>385843361
I thought Hulk Hogan took this site down? Why are these imbeciles still working?

>>385843768
>>385843802
I am pretty sure 360° movement is more precise than 8-directional wasd/esdf inputs.

Keep in mind, I did not say that motion controls are more precise than a mouse, I said that movement is better with an analogue stick in a three-dimensional environment.

>>385843361
>mostly play in handheld mode
>motion contols are fucking shit in handheld mode
feels bad

Dear faggy Kotaku writers: git gud

>>385843947
Dual joy is so outdated it is sad

>>385844037
>dunkey tier bad at videogames
are you just baiting or have you never seen a dunkey video

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>>385844006
How often the server updates

>>385844006
The new measuring stick PCfats brought out of the shed to try to rub their prickly dicks about how they're better, now that consoles can do 60FPS and 4k

>>385844159
I don't watch e-celeb shit. Neither should you.

>>385844336
>now that consoles can do 60FPS and 4k
Unlike consoles, PC can do both at once.

>>385844159
He sure sucks donkey balls at Splatoon.

>>385844415
Go measure your tickrates on Crysis, dude. No one that matters gives a fuck.

>play RL on console vs PC players with 120+ fps vs my nerfed to fuck feels-like-20 fps
>still win

>play smite with a controller vs faggots with k+m
>still win

This faggot needs to git gud.

>>385844336
>I'm so new I wasn't even here for the splatoon 1 launch

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>>385844508
You seem upset.

>>385844467
How so? Dunkey is pretty godly at vidya, or at least better than any haters here on /v/.

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>>385844336
>now that consoles can do 60FPS and 4k

Lying isn't going to win you any points.

>>385844006
How often the servers update the game simulation. CSGO is 64Hz, which means regardless of your framerate, the servers update the information internally 64 times a second. Splatoon only updates 12.5 times a second. This is what leads to people perceiving missing shots that should have hit, or shooting enemies around corners. What happens is you see something happen faster than the servers update. A hitscan shooter at 12.5Hz would be unplayable. Ironically Splatoon 1 was 25Hz, so Nintendo's multiplayer servers have gotten worse despite having paid online. People are paying Nintendo for worse online functionality than the WiiU.

>>385844159
Most of Dunkey's videos are him dying over and over again for the "humor," but he is unironically bad at FPS games and Mario Kart. Only games I've seen him do well in are platformers (inconsistently) and maybe Smash, if mediocre could be considered good.

>>385844587
Just go watch his Splatoon video. He sucks so hard it's not even funny.

>>385844560
>posting anime girls

You sure showed me, champ.

>>385843361
I hate kotaku as much as you but this article was pretty clearly just "I'm gonna provide people with a lot of evidence as to why motion controls are better" written in a way that tried to be funny. Now while I didn't find it all that amusing you'd have to be literally autistic not to get the joke. or just a shitposter, so same thing really

>>385844607
>despite having paid online.
But there isn't any paid online. That starts in 2018.

>>385843361
Kotaku's retarded but so are people who try to discuss articles by only reading titles. The title is tounge in cheek.

>>385844848
Kotaku deserves nothing and anyone willingly reading their articles even less.

>>385843361
Here you go, you needn't give Kotaku traffic.

https://pastebin.com/45cyF5T7

I want to eat something with ketchup, holy shit.

>>385844806
>I'm not paying for it right now so that means its not paid online.

I bet you think your tendies and good boy clothes mommy gets for you are also not paid, right? Since you won't have to spend money until you're a grownup.

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>Don’t be fooled! Stick with your familiar, standard thumbstick controls. Especially if you’re not on my team.

>kotaku guy was the good guy all along

>>385843802
That was only the demo you moron.

>pcbros just mad again because even something shitty like the switch has a fun multiplayer game to play

>PC only has LoL or literallywho battlegrounds

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>>385844006
made up shit
never had tick rates in games till CS

used to play SOCOM 1&2 and never had to lead targets or flick snipe like faggots do now adays

leading targets in real life is meant for jets(fast shit) or bows(slow shit) due to the speed vs gravity

its because they are to lazy to actually code properly so they take shortcuts

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>>385844671
What's the splatoon meta?

Gyro on the pro controller is wonky but aiming with the joycon is like using a fucking laser pointer, it's amazing

>>385845036
No he means the system to pay isn't implemented yet. Switch online is still 100% free and will be until 2018.

>>385845348
Aerospray on Turf. Octobrush on anything else.

>>385844159
>Only used analog controls
>Only did Turf Wars
>Shitposted about the game
wtf I hate donsly now

>>385845348
Aerospray or anything with ink armor

>>385845036
It literally costs nothing to play online right now. What point are you trying to make, that it costs money to maintain servers? Obviously, but that's not the argument. Anon said that you're paying for worse online than the Wii U, while the reality is that you're not. You WILL be paying in a few months, but that's irrelevant until it happens.

>>385845348
Hasn't settled yet. Too many new weapons that not everybody has unlocked yet.

Casually though brushes and dualies are super popular with the scrubs, so if you want to get ahead of the curve just get a .96 gal because that's probably gonna be meta in 2 weeks to counter them.

>>385844006
This is how little people on /v/ know about videogames.

>>385845036
kek I miss the GBP meme, but yeah, as the other anon said, it's free until 2018 and that's when the whole Virtual Console Netflix shit happens too

I don't understand why they turned off Y-axis control on the stick with this game when you're using motion controls, but had it in BotW. Sticks for large turns and adjustments, motion controls for smaller ones.

Also, motion controls are good while playing docked, but while in handheld, they're cancer.

>>385843604
>Motion controls are the closest that come to mouse controls on console
Truth

>and on top of that you have an analogue stick, so you have more precise movement than m+k.
This is bullshit, though.

>>385846018
He said movement. An analog stick is more precise for movement than a digital keyboard.

>>385845759
Gal is usually fucking me up and I'm in S Rank right now
it's the only thing that I can respect, because it's difficult to use, despite its power, due to the low fire rate
honestly whenever I die by a Gal I always fucking know it was a Gal because you die in what seems like 2 hits, virtually instantly

>>385845819
I found that it's easier without Y-axis stick, because you'll rarely need to make sweeping motions up and down outside of small circumstances, which makes it easier to aim by sweeping the analog stick left/right, and just tilting the controller for minute adjustments in any direction.

>>385845342

I'm trying to make sense of this post but I really don't understand how anyone could reach the notion that you can have online multiplayer without the server updating the game state.

>>385845807
I only heard about tickrate when people were using it against Overwatch, but never heard it explained. What is it?

>>385845819
I didn't notice this, because I've always just used Motion Controls for Y Axis and for precise movements, but when I did notice it in the Plaza I thought it was a weird action, it's not like it's hurting anybody by leaving the Right stick to be functional with Y Axis movements, so it makes no sense to remove it

>>385845348
pick something with range and you'll be fine

>>385843802
Demo =/= the final game

>>385845819
Because it'd conflict with the gyro controls since moving the reticle also moves the camera. In BotW the stick is used to move the camera and the gyro is only used to aim the bow, which locks your camera movement.

>>385843361
seems like he's jokingly saying motion controls are good. stop being triggered by nothing, you child

>>385846275

Server update rate.

Is he one of those people who kept getting 0p when I was playing Turf Wars and delaying me from getting to Ranked?

>>385846275
Stupid shit to explain away your shitty skill and McDonalds ping.

Only relevant in skilled (competitive) shooters and racing games, where playable objects need to actually be where they say they are.

>>385844006
>>385846275
>>385846731
out, redditor

>>385843604
there's no reason you shouldn't be able to connect a keyboard and mouse to your game console.

>>385846275
it's essentially the server framerate for how it sees the game occurring.

it's also made up nonsensical bullshit that only LITERAL retards care about.

>>385846778
>XD PEOPLE ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO LEARN ANYTHING, BECAUSE I WAS BORN KNOWING ABOUT TICK RATES

kill yourself lad

>>385843802
I don´t notice any lag thou.
Nintendo magic?

>>385846838
The reason is comfort. Not everybody wants to game on a fucking desk 24/7.

>>385846838
Players using regular controllers would get rekt though.

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>>385846778
>redditors are right
wow colour me surprised

>>385846778
>It's another "anything I don't like is Reddit" post
Please kill yourself.

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>>385846248
by not having some fake delay between the "updates"

that would be like watching a stream then it buffers before continuing for a couple more minutes then buffering again

>>385845348
being gud

>>385846778
(you)

>>385847053
Thx 4 teh inpho

>got me to check the actual article to see what it said
Sasuga, Kotaku.

>>385847049
Are you retarded? A server has to have some sort of update rate, just like a monitor has a refresh rate. You can't update the servers faster than the server CPU can simulate the game, and the faster a server is the more expensive it is. A tickrate has to be balanced, but while most esports titles have settled around 60Hz, Nintendo opted for sub-30Hz. There's no such thing as a fake delay, are you high?

>>385847049
servers delay because of server costs lmao

>>385846491
You still use the stick to move the camera on the X axis though in Splatoon.

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I thought kotaku was getting shut down by hulk hogan from the million dollar lawsuit? Why the fuck are they still around?

>>385845759
>Casually though brushes and dualies are super popular with the scrubs

Damn it, I just like how the dualies play!

>>385847049

So you seriously think games used to have infinitely fast server-side calculations? Do you not see the problem here? It isn't even a question of programming, it's a question of basic physics.

>>385843802
>involves you spraying cum on the opponent instead of shooting them.
Then why is the lower tickrate a problem?

>>385847393
>he fell for the refresh rate meme
Good goy, you have to buy the biggest number because that means it's the best.

>>385847483
They're not bad weapons, but they are popular with bad players.

>>385843692
That's the point. They're getting shit stomped so hard that they want their opponents to be handicapped.

>>385847505
but he isn't wrong

>>385847591
I'm just tired of people trying to put asterisks over everyone because they think every weapon is a crutch.
Guess what, if that's the case, then the game is completely balanced.

>>385847505
I legitimately don't think you have any idea how games or even computers work.

>>385847485
>internet speed
>physics

lol

>>385847739
It's all marketing jargon that means nothing.

>>385843423

Try getting to S without them m8

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>>385847979
Speed of light, bitch.

>>385847979

The internet speed isn't the issue I mentioned, and I fail to see your point anyway.

>>385847393
>the faster a server is the more expensive it is

so devs are cheaper now then devs 15 years ago?

thanks for proving my point

>>385843423
They actually are for Splatoon.

>>385847979
Internet speed has nothing to do with server side physics simulations. Again, you can't run a game faster than the CPU allows.

>>385848316
What? Do you have an actual learning disability?

>>385848048
whatever makes you feel better

>>385848316
What?

>>385848769
faster servers have faster "updates"

so now that we actually have tickrates means we have slower servers now

what's hard to understand?

>>385847471
They got bailed out by Univision (Fusion Media Group). Only the main Gawker blog bit the bullet, the rest of their brands survived.

>>385848316
Where? You haven't made a single coherent point.

>>385843768
>>385843947
>>385846018
he said movement, not aim you complete retards

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>>385849000
>so now that we actually have tickrates
>now

>>385849097
your a bit slow, read the thread

>>385849179
The irony. You're slow in the head m8.

>>385845747
>You WILL be paying in a few months, but that's irrelevant until it happens.
So in a few months, they will be paying for worst servers. That sounds pretty relevant to me famalam.

It's like going to subway and the sandwich artist tells me he's gonna spit in my sub in 10 seconds. Am I not supposed to be irritated until he actually does it?

>>385849000
>so now that we actually have tickrates
We've always had tickrates you fucking moron. Tickrate is just another word for how fast the CPU updates the game, it's the same thing whether it's a private server or a server run by the game.

>>385849052
Movement isn't any more preciese using a gamepad in shooters. If you think otherwise show me a player clearing a surf map using just a gamepad.

>>385846401
Cool. Then what tickrate does the final game have?

Don't forget source.

Anything under 30 is absolutely ridiculous today. Even 30 but I keep my expectations low with Nintendo.

So pathetic.

>>385849243
You're not even paying for servers. Splat 2 is peer to peer.

>>385846940
>making this thing optional goes against my comfort
you fucking dunce

>>385844042

Because God's light is extinguished and all that lights our paths now are the flames of Hell.

>>385849342
Roughly 16.
https://octo.im/2017/07/31/splatoon-2-online-multiplayer-analysis/

>>385843423
Yeah you're right they suck. All the top players are using motion controls as a joke.

>>385843361
>Blames people for actually being good at a children's Nintendo game
fixed

>>385844607
Well, it's not QUITE as awful, but still bad:

https://octo.im/2017/07/31/splatoon-2-online-multiplayer-analysis/

>Splatoon 2 runs at an update rate of 16Hz. So that means that the game is running at exactly 30% slower than the original game

Sadly it's a factor of it being on a console like Switch. Nintendo had to worry about people using free McDonald's wifi with their Switch. They didn't want as many connection errors so they settled on a low tickrate instead of a higher one.

This isn't to say it cant change. Overwatch launched with a lower tickrate than what it currently has. But Splatoon 2 sacrificed responsiveness for stability. Hopefully when people pay actual money for Nintendo's online, it brings dedicated servers.

>>385845747
>that it costs money to maintain servers
Splatoon online matches are peer to peer. Also it costs fuckall to run console servers, the paid online fee is almost pure profit for these companies

>You WILL be paying in a few months
Not likely unless the Switch has more than just Splatoon and Mario Kart to play online.

>>385849354
I'm not, nintenbros are, and I'm trying to defend them.

If platoon 2 is peer-to-peer, that's even sadder. You're merely using a centralized server to find p2p lobbies, where you exchange requests and responses with the session's host at a pathetic 12.5hz frequency. A cheaper architecture at the cost of a fair Model representation.

Seriously, what is in intrinsic value behind the soon-to-exist subscription?

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>>385849851
>Hopefully when people pay actual money for Nintendo's online, it brings dedicated servers.

>>385849567
Holy shit. And I was thinking about getting this game.

Guess my Switch really will be just a Xenoblade/Metroid machine.

>>385844159
He said himself that he's really terrible at Mario Kart online, like who the fuck can't constantly stay in the top 3 in those games?

>>385849994
No you weren't.

>>385849954
>Seriously, what is in intrinsic value behind the soon-to-exist subscription?
You're paying for the privilege of renting NES ROM's from Nintendo.

>>385850056
Yes, I was. Not everyone here is a console warrior.

fuck you

>>385845348
Anything with better range that Aerospray will net you a retarded amount of kills, but you'll still probably lose.

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>>385849243
>bad food analogy

>>385849851
>Nintendo had to worry about people using free McDonald's wifi with their Switch.

desu they should've disabled multiplayer when not docked. Mobile online multiplayer is a mistake.

>>385849335
LQ bait
Keyboard can go eight directions
Analogue stick can go any direction with any degree if movement

test

>>385850493
keyboard is objectively awful. Mouse is the only redeeming factor of M+KB.

>>385850446
Wouldn't Japan literally burn down their headquarters in that situation?

>>385849994
Nice false flag. Tickrate doesn't mean shit in Splatoon and has never fucked over you dumb faggot.

>>385843361
Kotaku is good at clickbait and hooks anon. Why the fuck are you even following Kotaku?

>>385845759
as a brush user Im not having too much problems dealing with .96 gal

in splatoon 1 I only had trouble with them because the deco had both the wall and get out of jail free card

now they dont have them

>>385849954
Other companies do it and charge more for it so it's ok when Nintendo does it too. Also you get to borrow ROMs from Nintendo for a month

Those are really the only arguments I've heard defending the value of Nintendo's online subscription. Honestly I doubt most Switch users will pay to play Mario Kart and Splatoon online. The only game I could feasibly see justifying paid online is Smash Bros.

>>385843361
>expecing any "game journo" to be any good at games
99% of those people do not even want this job, they all would like to write for WSJ like their "friends" but are stuck at job they hate so they shove in their agenda to make it the most comfortable environment for them

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>>385850793
>it's no hitscan so it doesn matter
That's just wrong. You can clearly see how laggy everything his, even just movements with a tickrate this low. Going from a 20 tickrate to a 60 tickrate in CS was like day and night.

But I won't spoonfeed you and I won't waste my time on you Nintendo baby.

Have some OC.

>>385850713
It's fine in Japan because they're packed in like sardines and have WiFi better than most home internet in the US.

I mostly meant for the US release.

>>385850493
>>385850648
I defy you to perform this well in an action game with an analog stick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAjXCWHVJh8
You cannot do it.

It is literally impossible to achieve this level of skill with console analog sticks. Keyboard objectively trumph controllers in shooter games. You are wrong.

>>385851164
your an fucking faggot

>>385851164
Nice try once again, sonyfriend. If there's ever any lag it's because your shit internet or the guy you're playing with (most likely the former). Tickrate doesn't effect shit in Splatoon and the gameplay is still fast as hell at top level play.

Just admit that you're a fucking moron who already admitted to not having the game and now you're shit posting.

>>385850946
I expect trade ins for splat2 to skyrocket when nintendo flips the switch for paid online, unless they release a huge expansion pack or something to sweeten the deal

>>385844336
There is no excuse for low tickrate servers on any platform in any multiplayer game that has anything resembling fast-paced gameplay. It has literally nothing to do with the fantasy league system wars baiting competition playing out in your head.

>>385851326
99% of the versatility in that movement is mouse controls.

Are you a retard or did you just not read what I said? Mouse is so incredibly far above god tier for movement that it combined with keyboard, even with keyboard being shit tier, is still better than dual analogs.

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>>385851473
>Netcode doesn't exist

>>385851593
A gamepad allows for analog movement in the sense of being able to carefully adjust your movement speed, but in literally every game you only want two speeds ever: as fast as possible and as fast as silently possible, which is easily achieved by holding down a walk-key.

Also, the idea that you'd need more than four directions is wrong, since you can rotate your coordinate system with the mouse and move in any direction easily. For actual combat it's unnecessary to be able to move diagonally too, since all you'll ever want is get as fast as possible fowards or back, or get as fast as possible to the side to evade an attack. You can do all that with WASD.

>>385851687
>anime posting
One of the best ways to out yourself as not only a shitposting moron, but a colossal faggot as well. Fuck off, cunt.

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>>385851473
Of course I don#t own a 15 hz tickrate arena shooter, I'm not retarded. Keep sugarcoating it, though. Literally not better than SJWs.

Shove your cognitive dissonance up your ass, retard.

>>385851880
dumb phoneposter

>>385851772
If the only thing you play is arena shooters with straight corridors, sure.

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>>385851880
>no argument
>b-but you posted an anime image on a chan site! That means you're a shitposter!

>>385844336
>tickrate is exclusive to PC
The sad part is how obvious your falseflag is

>>385849451
adding keyboard and mouse stops it from being optimal because then everybody will feel the need to use it.

thats exactly the reason why its not a thing.

>>385851917
Then stop talking shit you absolute dimwit. Until you grow the fucking balls to stop making bullshit excuses about tickrate and play the game, then everything you say is invalid.

>>385843604
>you have more precise movement than m+k
Thanks, I needed that laugh.

>>385852237
But I know the difference between a low tickrate and a high tickrate already, I don't have to play this game?

I couldn't even cope with the fact that it has a lower tickrate than the fucking first game. That would frustrate me to no end the whole time.

No thanks.

>>385851958
>>385852098
>mad weebs
I fucking love this shit. Keep crying you fucking retards.

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>>385852338
Splatoon pedos don't represent Nintendo fans, though. Please don't bully all of us.

>>385852215
>because then everybody will feel the need to use it.
But nobody is forcing you to use it. Having more options doesn't have any negative impact on your own personal comfort, you can continue to not use it if you wish.

Also I thought console players believe controller is superior because it takes more skill to use. What happened?

>>385849567
Surprisingly a good read. Been wondering though, does lower tick rate make things easier to hit or harder. Since you can get nonsense around the corner shots, but it would also mean you can miss people you hit dead on? In the case of peer to peer, who does the low tick rate favor?

>>385845342
You don't have to lead your targets because of bad tickrate you fucking retard.

>>385852338
How is wasd more precise than an analogue stick for movement in a 3d space? I did not talk about aiming, I was talking about movement there.

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>>385852456
>I fucking love getting BTFO. Keep crying you fucking retards.

>>385852517
Nobody is forcing people to use keyboard and mouse on PC either yet everybody feels the need to.

You can also shove your strawman up your ass.

>>385852381
You're repeating yourself. You already said that you don't have the game, so why are you here? Oh that's right, to shitpost. Here's your last (You)

>>385852237
>Until you grow the fucking balls to stop making bullshit excuses about tickrate
>If there's ever any lag it's because your shit internet

How ironic.

>>385852760
To find out the tickrate of this game and decide whether I should buy it or not.

Now I can leave, true.

>>385852456
dumb phoneposter

>>385852658
>weebs
>BTFO'ing anyone
HAHA off yourself, my dude.

>>385853073
>>385853115
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>>385849567
This was obviously written by a PCfat making bullshit excuses about tickrate shit to explain away their shitty skill and McDonalds ping. If there's ever any lag it's because your shit internet or the guy you're playing with (most likely the former). Tickrate doesn't effect shit in Splatoon.

Delete this right now.

>>385853307
>>385853158

>>385852658

>>385853158
>getting this triggered by anime pictures on a chan site
>i was never btfo fucknig kill yourself weeb!!!!

>>385853527
See >>385853307

>>385852718
>Nobody is forcing people to use keyboard and mouse on PC
And nobody cares if you choose not to. That's the difference. Nobody on PC is complaining about their comfort being affected by you having the option to use controllers to play games on PC, it's an acceptable option just like every other peripheral. Only on console are you restricted to controller only because of some lame excuse about comfort.

You don't know what a strawman is. Don't pretend for a second that consolefags haven't repeatedly argued that controller is superior and takes more skill to use.

>>385853527
see
>>385852658

>>385853898
>And nobody cares if you choose not to.
lmao go and tell your teammates that you're on pad in CS:GO and see how much they like it you shitposting fucktard

>>385853975
y u mad though

>>385854020
>not just playing on controller-only servers
>implying you won't get yelled at in CS:GO regardless of whether you're using KB+M
Also CSGO is literally one out of two games on modern consoles with mouse and keyboard support you fucking retarded shitposter

>>385853424
>ywn be asshurt enough to copy someone's post and use it again after it's been said and done

At least I know that it stuck with you, after all, the truth always sticks. You also decided to show your true colors as the pathetic, shitposting sonyfag you were all along. I mean, it was already fucking obvious you faggot, try harder next time.

>>385851593
The chain of replies talks about movement.

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>>385854362
>tfw you're so anally anhiliated you can't tell who's who and think everyone mocking you is a samefag

SEETHING

>>385854348
>Also CSGO is literally one out of two games on modern consoles with mouse and keyboard support
and what does that change? try to make a point next time.

>>385849227
If you were following along, you'd know they were saying we KNOW what the tickrates were, before and after. They reduced the amount.

>>385851994
Try using a control stick for movement in arena shooters or any FPS, against a Keyboard mouse player and come back to us.

>>385854643
>you'd know they were saying we KNOW what the tickrates were
I've been following along and it's obvious you don't because you think it's somehow new.

>>385854680
No shit the player with the mouse will do better. The discussion is about the keyboard though. Let me spell it out for you.
Mouse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>analog stick
Analog stick>>>keyboard

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>>385854568
>i-i swear i'm not samefagging! It's everyone! Everyone is mad at you!
AHAHAHA, it's fucking over my dude.

>>385843423
t. autoaim shitter

>>385843361
They are used on auto aim.

>>385854590
My point has already been made you illiterate slob. On PC you have options to play with KB+M or Controller and nobody is forcing you to use either over the other against your comfort. Only console faggots are retarded enough to argue controllers are superior while saying the feel the need to use KB+M if it becomes an option. How about you take your own advice instead of thrashing about like a shitstained toddler crying about strawman while making half assed tautologies like "Nobody is forcing people to use keyboard and mouse on PC either yet everybody feels the need to!"

>>385855015
My example gives both players a mouse, only difference is the keyboard vs analog stick. There's a reason why no pro player uses analog stick combined with a mouse in competitive play.

>>385855415
literally too stupid to understand how people will feel forced to use the best input method for their competitive games.

and you absolutely do not understand what a strawman is.

last response you're getting for me, your shitposting is too lazy.

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>>385855218
>multiple people calling out my retardation must all be the same person!

It was over the moment you claimed Splatoon isn't affected by netcode and got triggered by an anime image.

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>>385855725
When is he coming back? i miss him...

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>>385855925
But Trump is the republican Obama.

>>385855661
Thanks for conceding. Next time come up with something more original than what amounts to "no u" before you call someone else lazy.

>people will feel forced to use the best input method
Like controller? Oh right.

Also you disprove your own argument because people playing Splatoon insist on using analog sticks despite the motion control option being the superior input method for aim.

Congratulations, you played yourself.

>>385855725
And what I said still stands. Tickrates don't mean shit and don't effect the gameplay in any way, and weebs are cancerous shitposter.

You should've left with the little dignity you had after this post >>385853095
But the truth kept echoing in your head.

>>385850835
It's not like it's a hard counter in a moba or anything. Good players will almost always have an advantage against a worse player in this game. Just saying that it's effective against the hordes of scrubby brushes out there who just know how to run forward.

>>385844415
Just like your mom

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>>385857061
>Tickrates don't mean shit and don't affect the gameplay in any way

>>385852462
Is this show worth picking up? This season doesn't seem terribly interesting.

>>385857436
Reaction image because you don't have the game and can't refute.

its over, go home

>>385857061
completely new anon, tick the difference between 20 and 60 tick rate is colossal in real time, like two seconds of difference between players.