Is Yakuza 1 obsolete/not worth playing anymore now that

I guess.

Japanese voices and better combat are a welcome improvement.

>>385842113
Only thing I heard sucking in Kiwami is that Majima can be annoying.

Pretty much. I mean instead of the game with most flawed combat and loading pretty much everywhere, you have a game with best combat and really short loading screens.

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I still played it since i have a soft spot for old games
In my opinion usually both originals and remakes of games deserve attention.

>>385842113
Dub is still worth a listen to at least.

Kiwami is the worst "new" yakuza game. It has the least amount of content and they turned every boss fight into required qtes.

If you are just playing for the story its fine but holy hell are the boss fights annoying and super tedious. The game is really just a cheap cash grab after the success of 0.

>>385842113
English dub is always a treat to listen to

Kiwami's soundtrack is worse. Too many wubs and electronic noises.

Not OP here, PS4 is my first Sony system. Should I start with Kiwami or 0?

>>385842760
0 because it's a prequel.

>>385842760
I would say 0, because Kiwami has new scenes added related to 0.
inb4 autist sperging around people starting with Y0 ruining the fanbase

>>385842760
Emulate the first two games and get a ps3 for some pocket change and play in release order.

Ive only played 0 and have Kiwami pre-ordered

Emulation is a fucking joke

>>385842518
in my experience, all remakes are worse than the original.

>>385843254
Y1 and 2 emulate great though.

Not until Kiwami gets an English dub.

>>385842921
>inb4 autist sperging around people starting with Y0 ruining the fanbase
This is the stupidest fucking shit.

I swear this fanbase wants the series to die.

>>385842520
DAMN THAT HURTS

>>385843921
Funny how there's a backslash against this one guy. Finds out he's the one ruining it the most.

worth it just for the dub
you literally cannot beat how retarded it is
play it before kiwami so you get the retarded dub and then get to play the good version

HEY YOU

EXCUSE YOU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb9CzqiKmYg

>>385844070
YOU WANNA DIE?

Reminder that Yakuza 5 is garbage

>>385844465
not as garbage as 6

>>385844465
The only egregiously bad part of Y5 was the Haruka chapter.

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>>385842429
>Loading...
>mfw PS2 HDD+OPL
And here I thought it was amazing that they pulled an open world game on the PS2. Coulda fooled me.

>>385842760
Obviously Kiwami because it's the first in the series. I dontt know what these >>385842810
>>385842921 are on about. You play prequels because you already know the characters.

>>385844584
Saejima's start is pretty tedious

>>385844584
Not him by I've only reach a chapter into Saejima's section and it's the worst part of any Yakuza game I've played. It is so fucking boring.

DOJIMA OYABOON
WILL SEE YOU IN HAAAEEEELL

>>385844714
They make prequels so more people can get into the game without needing to know other games.

>>385842113
HEY YOU!

>>385847652
WHATTAFUCK

>>385847760
There were so many annoying background voices in the game. Especially the whining female voice.

>>385844465
So is Yakuza 4

STUPID

>>385843254
Play them on the PS2 if you're going to make pathetic posts like that, remake cuck.

>>385844342
LAUGH YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER

>>385848090
OLD

no because kiwami doesnt have the english voice acting

YOU TAKE ME FOR A FUCKIN' FOOL

>>385842113

I like the dub but I think I'm the only one.

Honestly the biggest problem I have with Kiwami is I'm just sick of Yakuza games. I didn't even finish 0. Everywhere Majima seems cool though. 1 probably isn't worth playing anymore.

>>385849752
>I'm just sick of Yakuza games
IKTF, i miss the days when sega would pump out a new ip every other day during the dreamcast era

>>385850275

I mean I don't even need a new IP, I just wish they'd introduce a main character who wasn't an indestructible moral paragon. Kiryu surviving at the end of 2 should've been enough of a warning for me that they weren't ever going to do anything bold or new with the franchise I guess, but I held out hope...

I SUGGEST YOU BLOW ME

>>385842113
1 is kino and a must play especially if you're in an old school kind of mood, but yeah Kiwami is an improvement in every area.

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FEEL THE FORCE
Fuck, I'm so excited and I can't wait to cry like a bitch at the final fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTt6TrUJ3A

>>385849752
Sega's problem was pumping these games out as a yearly franchise. 2 was literally the only game that improved from the previous game, all the rest just degrade in quality with each successor.

>>385849752
>majima everywhere seems cool
everyone says that at first until they find out it's over 50 fights

>>385852016
>2 was literally the only game that improved from the previous game, all the rest just degrade in quality with each successor.
What is Y0?
inb4 "hurr durr it doesn't have 3 low quality cities"

>>385852220
if they hadn't nerfed dragon of dojima it would have been literally perfect. It's missing a bunch of moves and heat actions

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Someone give me a quick rundown on kiwami. Is it a remake of the first Yakuza?

>>385852750
Yes.

>>385852750
No.

>>385852750
Yes

They added more cut scenes and expanded on the some parts of the story.

>>385852750
Maybe.

>>385852750
it's a full remake of yakuza 1 in japanese (while yakuza 1 had an english dub)
It includes 30 minutes of extra cutscenes
it uses yakuza 5/ishin/0's engine
Kiryu uses the same styles he had in yakuza 0
dragon of dojima (kiryu's default style for most of the series) gets nerfed early on and to level it up you have to keep fighting majima
the soundtrack was redone with remixes of the original music

>>385852750
I don't know

>>385852750
Eh

>>385852819
>>385852849
>>385852903
>>385852914
>>385852921

Thanks anons. I'll pick up it

>>385852750
no its a sequel to 0

>>385842564
this, holy hell. Boss' health regenerates when it reaches a treshold and he gives off an aura that concides with one of your styles. This is such a bad design choice. Also Majima Everywhere sounds good on paper but it'll get annoying and it kinda demerits his presence because Majima gets stabbed during the baseball room fight so he's off recovering. But because of the Majima Everywhere System they had to make it so he gets injured again making it useless and his baseball room injury less impactful. Also the OST sucks compared to the original, the only thing Kiwami has going for it is visuals but it's pretty much just Yakuza 0 retextured, not really a very bad thing and that you can switch styles on the fly. The fact that you can only level up your dragon of dojima style with doing just majima every shit is also annoying.

>>385853415
>>385842564
kiwami feels like it was made solely for the purpose of making money for 6's development, since 90% of the assets are from yakuza 0 and very little new was done.
the only problem with this statement is that yakuza 6 is a pretty weak game too

>>385853610
thank fuck it isn't full retail price.

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Kiwami will probably flop once reviews hit and 6 will end up getting delayed forever. Shame, really.

I DON'T WANT KIWAMI
I DON'T WANT YAKUZA FUCKING 6


WHAT I REALLY WANT IS FUCKING ISHIN AND KENZAN FFS JESUS FUCK.

>>385854062
its too late

learn japanese

>>385854062
I could see them reconsidering translating them with 0's success
let's hope kiwami doesn't change their minds again

>>385854110
I might just bite the bullet and import both and use the khh guides.

>>385854110
>lean japanese
no point, when google translate and other apps have features where you can take a picture and it will automatically translate it into english. eventually we will be able to take video of it and it will translate it to english on the fly

>>385851594
>wub wub wub wub
literally where and when did the soundtrack go so wrong?

>>385854663
google translate still shits out gibberish 90 percent of the time with japanese.

>>385854752
gonna start somewhere

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>>385854739
Well, if you're going to be like that then i'd say the soundtrack started sucking after 3.

>>385854739
4 and 5 were okay but not great, ishin was amazing, 0 was even better, kiwami is a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing and 6 is fantastic
they can't seem to nail this shit down

>>385844402
STUPID OLD FUCK

>>385854739
not everything is wub
there's still some decent stuff in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7caUZbM5rk

>>385856429
YOU WANA GET IN MY FACE

>>385856605
SOMEBODY GET THIS...MOTHER FUCKER!

>>385852220
Yakuza 0 is a disappointment because kiryu is still an invincible perfect badass even when he was younger. Why even have a prequel if he's just the same guy with shorter hair? I wanted to see him become a badass but instead the very first thing he does is decide to fight the whole tojo clan himself.

>>385856605
CMONFUCKER

>>385856714

hey you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUhXbJyz3o
post god tier OST

>>385848087
I agree

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ARE YOU RETARDED OR JUST DEAF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdVvgdVglOw&feature=youtu.be

>>385857663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONkmj4trhE

>>385853610
From what I heard Yakuza 6 just sounded like an excuse to show off their new engine that's going to be used in future games.

>>385844714
Yakuza 0 was my first Yakuza game and I fell in love with it. I'm going to play Kiwami and play in numerical order once I'm finished and hope they bring the PS3 games up to PS4 because I'm not going to buy a PS3 just to play them.
there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>385854062
Kenzan is never ever since PS3 unless they remaster it for PS4, and even then who knows if it would be localized. Let's see if they care about Ishin after 6 comes out since apparently they don't want to oversaturate us with Yakuza games.

>>385852921
>Kiryu uses the same styles he had in yakuza 0
Most of the mingames are the same too, even has pocket racing. Bit worrying.

>>385849752
>Honestly the biggest problem I have with Kiwami is I'm just sick of Yakuza games
Doesn't help that Sega keeps all the spinoffs that actually try new concepts in Japan only aside from Dead Souls which damn near killed the franchise in the west.

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>>385859120
it pretty much is. It's almost disrespectful how weak the story is given it's supposed to be his swan song.
it's pretty to look at until the shit resolution and framerate start coming into play

>>385843260
I'm trying to contradict you but can only think of HD re-releases like Okami.

Oh, oh. Tales of Destiny on PS2 although it's nipland only.

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i wonder if there's any chance of them making an HD pack including 3, 4, 5, Dead Souls and Kenzan to japan and then localize kenzan and release it here

>>385859305
Yeah it's a shame too. I really liked dead souls even outside of its insanely hard qtes.

>>385843260
Wild Guns Reloaded is a genuine improvement on an already fantastic game.

>>385842113
The replace Yakuza's battle theme with an awful dubstep, electronic garbage remix.
What the fuck? How am I supposed to smash faces with out my funky jams?

Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1uNUhIgC2g
Remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7FLlQGXErY

>>385859687
release the pack including kenzan here*
in case i wasn't clear enough

>>385859328
It's kinda sad seeing them go from smooth Yakuza 0 and Kiwami to a stutterfest that doesn't even look THAT much better. In some cases I feel like it looks a bit more stiff even like when characters are having a conversation.

>>385842113
Feels bad knowing I started Yakuza at 0 and it's only downhill from here. Atleast 0 was one of the few (if not the only) objective 10/10's in the last 5 years or so.

>>385860043
maybe these guys have shit taste and the games are actually great, who knows?

>>385859813
That remix isn't awful but it really pales in comparison to the original. It sounds like something that'd fit better in a crossover game for Kiryu's stage.

>>385860043
Kiwami is great tho, also Yakuza 2 is great, Yakuza 3 is mostly pretty disappointing but has some cool bits, Yakuza 4 is great and 5 is great except for the ending of the main story which feels kinda whatever and the fourth character seems pretty pointless.

>>385858490
I long for the day where I can use this quote.

>>385860043
It's not downhill. Yakuza 1 and 2 are leaps and bounds ahead of 0 in terms of story and actually managing kiryu as a character. 3 and up though are kind of a mixed bag.

3 had way too much slice office life stuff for most people, 4s story is too overdone for most people, and 5 is just all over the place.

>>385860534
just say a bunch of complete nonsense to someone and then when they ask what you said yell it out

>>385860348
Even though 3 is one of the weaker games it's totally worth playing just for the insane plot. I've never seen a something start out so low key and then crank it into a retard overdrive like Yakuza 3 did.

>>385860546
yakuza 1 & 2 kiryu feel better written because they were actually written by a crime novelist who focuses on yakuza stories.
I always felt like they regretted making kiryu a huge moralfag in 3 and beyond and now that they've retired him (hopefully they won't go back on it) they can bring in a new moral grey protagonist
remember that time kiryu used a guy as a bullet shield in yakuza 1?

>>385860748
Yeah Yakuza 3 is a constant slow ramp-up and has a really strong finish but it doesn't excuse a big chunk of the game feeling too mundane. Good game but just not as good as most of the others.

>>385860781
In my perfect world kiryu would've died at the end of 2 and the rest of the games would've been some young punk trying to fill the power vacuum left by both the dragons dying.

why is yakuza 4 and 5 mixed bags?

As someone who beat Yakuza 1 when it came out it was absolutely flawed as shit. Constant loading, bad camera, and the combat is extremely simple.

Kiwami has to be better simply because you have multiple fighting styles.

>>385861175
Multiple characters sounds like fun at first but imagine the game you're playing suddenly feel like you just started all over again every twelve or so hours at least four times.

>>385861175
At least with 4 you have a lot of characters to follow, the payoff in the end isn't that great, you're not really given much to explore with said characters' personalities and motivations outside of Akiyama and I guess Kiryu, and their teamups are literally in the final chapters of Kiryu's chapter since they start reeling everything together. 4 also has an absurd amount of twists in the last handful of hours to the point it's laughable.

>>385861175
4 wasn't mixed for me, the story was coherent enough and nothing much feels too out of place. Also I liked playing as everyone.

5 feels a bit like a mixed bag because the story this time is all over the place and doesn't always tie together in a way that feels satisfying. Ending also feels mild, not spicy. Also I'm upset they replaced one of the guys I really liked to play as in 4 with a new guy who kinda sucks; fewest moves and has weak attack power. In terms of content 5 is great though with 5 different cities and a ton of different types of side stuff to do.

Am I crazy for thinking 0 was pretty bad?

I mean in terms of combat and content it's really cool but I didn't really like any of the characters from the story all that much. Makoto is one the game is definitely trying to present as likable but they went overboard with it. By the end I was sick of her like eating too much candy. Lee was cool but got killed too fast. I don't feel like it was a good origin story for Majima either. Basically he was the same throughout the whole game and then at the end was like hmm I guess I'm gonna be crazy from now on because mah lost love and stuff.

Final boss fight was cool but Nishikiyama had to come in and ruin the finisher with "nuu don't kill that's not nice :c".

>>385854062
Kenzan has something about child prositution.

Unless you want to neo-feminist SJWs getting their panties in a bunch and demanding censorship 'cause HERPADERP THE KIDS, it's not happening.

>>385863198
Majima was inspired to live crazy by the dude in the red suit

>>385863663
That's what would have made sense but Majima didn't really have a strong enough reaction to him in the game. I feel like he should have at least picked up that guy's knife or something and promise to carry on his crazy ways.

I mean that guy was more like Majima than Yakuza 0's Majima is himself. Same attitude and fights with a knife.

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I'm playing 5, maybe I'm just burning out but Saejima's part is just a slog, I'm at the part where I gotta get to some hidden casino in a bar now

However, I have to say I liked some of the side characters, the cellmates and the warden were pretty legit

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>>385863485
You think they're okay with this one?
Besides it's not like jap devs care

>>385864095
Saejima's part is definitely a slog, in 4 and 5.

>>385863941
Even by Yakuza standards that would've been ridiculously cheesy.

>>385864149
Alex Navarro, a notorious SJW, was way okay with this segment. I mean the women are basically making dosh off men and it's their own idea so I guess nothing is wrong.

>>385864290
That's such a weird opinion to have of his part in 4 since it's basically saejimas game. Who else would you care about?

>>385864557
>"Alright, I'm going to go do something"
>"Better make sure the cops don't spot me"
>forced to take ridiculous roundabout path across the entire map, through sewers and rooftops, just to go down the street

I do not like 4 very much

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>>385864451
I'm not even surprised at this point. Wonder when these people will finally fuck off of games they're not even playing.

>>385864781
Yeah I guess my mind just deleted all that crap. Forgot he had to duck the cops.

All I'll ever remember from 4 is his woodcarving and the fuckin bell-ringer. That's still the nastiest move in any of those games for me.

>tfw they butchered the god-tier ost in favor of WUBWUBBBBBWUBB
i don't know how to feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7FLlQGXErY&t=3s

>>385860043
I've just been playing through the series recently, and while I do think 0 us the best, the others are all good too. I do think they get better as they go on though, though I also understand why 2 is a lot of people's favorite.

>>385866389
How is "Receive you" sounds in it?

>>385864290
It's a shame too, because I think Saejima is really fun to play as, but they had to make everything around him tedious as shit in both games, whether it was in the form of the cops or in the form of not even getting to the city until the last chapter of his part.

>>385867049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ZRsSposHA

I'm mad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVKh7lcAio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWoYxtw8490

>>385867392
>>385867049
there's also this version which I believe is the version that plays when you fight majima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2E9JYfcfWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDkO4qt6UQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0262_uR7ha8
it's different but I don't think this one is terrible

>>385866389
>>385867425
>>385867684
Turning Point is great here, best music in the whole game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc0Q9sfbhwg

>>385867392
>>385867502
Yep, i'd prefer original anytime.
Vocal version is pretty good though.

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>Being able to turn around with your attacks is an unlock you get half way through the game
Anyone who recommends "playing from the first game" is an idiot

>>385868895
>Anyone who recommends "playing from the first game" is an idiot
wrong!
people recommend it so people can appreciate the refinements each installment makes.

>>385868895
I started with yakuza 1 just this year. if you haven't played any of the other games and don't really know how the series will evolve fully you'll be just find starting with 1.

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>>385868895
>if you play games in order they were released you're an idiot

>>385869416
>>385869552
>>385869768
Have fun having people you recommend Yakuza to drop the entire series because 1 aged like hogshit

Until they remake 2-5 I would probably still recommend that anyone who wants to play through the whole series start with 1 on the ps2. Otherwise you're starting with the apex of the series gameplay and then regressing massively for the rest of the games. Yakuza 1 is pretty shit, but that just makes the subsequent games that much more enjoyable seeing how they all improve on each other.

If someone started with Kiwami I wonder if they could even enjoy 2-4.

>>385869882
I just tell them that playing the first one is pretty necessary for playing other ones just to see how much the series improves
then I tell them that 2 is the best game in the series and the combat is infinitely better
works every time

>>385869882
This is definitely a potential problem. The HD collection version of Yakuza 1 is a lot more playable, but unless the person you're recommending the game to speaks Japanese then it's probably not an option.

>>385869882
If they don't have the patience for 1 they'd never finish any of the other games anyway. The combat gets more refined but it never gets good enough to carry the games. Yakuza is a story heavy series so why would you skip the games with the best stories?

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>>385842113
Why this game needed 5 more sequels? First game had a perfect ending, they could've continue it with a different protagonist

>>385870050
So basically you lie to them? Every single game after 2 is better than 2. People literally only like that turd because of nostalgia goggles. It has the most convoluted story in the entire franchise (which is an achievement) and the gameplay was improved by every subsequent entry.

Also I'm a huge proponent for playing games in release order for the story, but let's not pretend it's really important in Yakuza. You could pick up the series from pretty much any game and jump right in since each story is self contained. Most they would lose out on is not recognising returning characters.

>>385870256
I disagree completely. 1 is MILES worse than the rest in terms of gameplay. I had to really push myself to finish 1 whereas I loved the rest of the series and even 100%'d a couple of them.

>>385870463
>5
Try like 10. Anyway I've enjoyed every game that I played (1-4), so I'm not complaining, but I really think that the series is suffering from sequel fatigue. I kinda wish they'd let it rest for a while rather than drive it into the ground like CoD, Guitar Hero or Ass Creed.

>>385870510
How is 2 the most convoluted you stupid old fuck

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Yo so if i upgrade this do i break the game?

>>385842564
Hey pleb guess what kiwami was on ps3 then wii u so fuck off with your shit

>>385870463

>why would anyone want more of a game they like? More content and improvements to the systems? Ech

>>385870936
it'll take a little bit to upgrade it to game breaking but it does become overpowered pretty fast
make two saves, one with it at base stats and one where you upgrade it

>>385870883
Every single character is coincidentaly related to every single other character and also secretly Korean unbeknownst to them. The ending sequence alone contains something like 5 betrayals in a row where they reveal the REAL mastermind behind the plans.

I guess I should have known that /v/ would like Yakuza 2 the most given that the general consensus here is that the most convoluted ace attorney (3) is the best one. You fags just love those shayamalan tier twists.

>>385871050
all the games ended up shit other than 0 though.

>>385871379
Said literally nobody ever

>>385869882
All the issues 1 had were prevalent when it first released there is no aging.

>>385870638
The only moments that I felt like I was rushing were when I was required to run from one end of the map to the other because at the end of every street is a split second load screen and when you gotta go through like ten of them along with the loading for any random encounters that shit starts to really add up. Otherwise I still found 1 very enjoyable when I first played it in 2011.

I've just been playing through the series recently, and I was wondering, does anyone like Yuya and Kazuki? Something about them and Stardust pisses me off.

>>385869882
I don't think Yakuza 1 is nearly as bad/clunky/aged as some people make it out to be. I played it first 2-3 years ago and immediately fell in love with the series.

>>385873586
they're just a bunch of useless idiots who end up way too involved in everything

>>385871379
God is this how persona 1 and 2 fans feel.

As long as people are buying the games it's fine I guess...

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>>385871353
>The ending sequence alone contains something like 5 betrayals in a row where they reveal the REAL mastermind behind the plans.
>That moment when Terada appears

>>385873586
I don't mind them, and it's nice helping Yuya get out of his shenanigans every game since you get to catch up with them. Date will always be the best Kamurocho friend though, they can't top him.