Ehh? You should play some Guilty Gear anon! You'll have

I'm sorry Elph, fighting games are not my thing

You don't mean any of that.

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Robo when?

I don't like fighting games, but would you be willing to do this for me for other games? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

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Is 2k my go-to poke as Jack-O' to escape pressure?

GG is too offense oriented for my tastes, doesn't benefit defensive play at all

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Rate the Valentines based on the smell of their farts

>>385836042
Don't

>>385835271
All these threads are tempting me. I don't know if it's a repressed desire or I'm easily manipulated. Probably both

>>385836027
The game is fairly fast paced, but it's obvious from that post that you haven't played it. I don't think there's a fighting game out there with more defensive options than Xrd has.

>be bad at game
>main bedman
>win anyway because nobody knows how to fight bedman
I feel kinda bad about it but not really

>>385836486
Well that's basically how it went in the story too, so at least you're doing a good bedman rp.

Button mashing is not a sport.

>>385836042
you are a sick person, seek help.

>>385836021
Depends. You can avoid throws with 6K, if you expect a tick throw.

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I'm not playing fightan, just collecting the waifus, but what's with the antagonism between the GG and BB playerbase?
I don't think I've seen this phenomenon with such an intensity anywhere else

>>385837148
goobers are mad sniffblue is better

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>>385836557
>>385836810
>>385837010
You know we realize it's you samefagging, BBkun, considering the IP count isn't going up. Do you even have a job or go to school dude? You troll like every single one of these threads like 24/7.

>>385837148
There really isn't, it's just a samefag trying to start shit

Any psn eu players here?
Might make a room if anyones interested?

Any tips on picking a sub?
I'm having fun with Ky but he feels too well-rounded and lacks a specialty. At least give me pointers for a beginner who wants to explore more options.

>>385837148
there isn't any, really. but one autist is working really hard to shitpost GG and then pretend he's a Guilty Gear player who shitposts BB. It's pathetic, but kind of fascinating.
as a Blazblue fan, I really wish he'd stop trying to be some sort of white knight. he's the only one creating the problem, and plenty of BB players have asked him to stop

>>385836042
brown is the color of poo so Rammy is the stinkiest

>>385837694
If you're a beginner, I really would advice against picking a sub. Who's your main?

>>385837148
It actually only a thing on 4chan honestly.
If you go to any anime weekly, although people will tend to play one or the other (or frequently both), you will find no real animosity between someone who plays Guilty and someone who plays BB. There might be some light-hearted bantz, but that's about it

>>385837694
Well Ky has a lot of options because he's well rounded.

What aspect do you like best though? Rush down pressure? Poke? Air? Ground? Set up ? Charge or motion

How do I get a cute supportive gf who will encourage me to get good at fighting games?

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Report and ignore flamers

>>385837809
>I'm having fun with Ky

I'll spent some time in training mode to see if another clicks more than Ky.

>>385838115
My air game sucks so I spend most of my time grounded. I'd take motion inputs over charge inputs anytime.

>>385835271
I just don't think the time investment would be wort the amount of enjoyment I may eventually get out of the game.

>>385837948
you're right, but it's nothing more than typical /v/ stuff. but this guy has really got his panties in a twist about it. unfortunately, his style of shitposting will only encourage more in return. he makes the whole BB community look bad, and I worry he'll make all us Blaz players a joke.

>>385838397
That's fine man. Fighting games aren't for everyone and it does really take an ungodly amount of time to get good enough to compete at a high level, but if you just want to play casually or with friends it'll only take you maybe 20-30 hours of diligent practice with most characters to get the basics down.

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How do I play May? Literally can't find any high level play streams or tournament videos featuring her.

>>385838575
Here you go lad. Mdesilva has high level playlists for like every character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiSNdGEpz0&list=PLSq9hRF0zPpX3L-R2QsB_F6npX-PoAwCp

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where's the lobby

>>385835271
This was really embarrassing to read. But I can't say no to a guilty gear thread.

>>385839320
That's right, don't talk about videogames on the videogames board, we need more room for shitty waifu dump threads and ecelebs.

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>>385835271
There was a point that GG's character design became aesthetically indistinguishable from BB, and the new characters started revolving entirely around animu waifubait. Since that happened I haven't been able to get interested in the series, even though the new games are very technically impressive.

Sorry, Ms. Moeblob.

>>385837148
It's just some retards, ignore it and it'll be fine
Both are great fighting games in their own right

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>>385839583
as much as I love what they did with xrd, i miss the old style too

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>>385835271
i gave up on the game some weeks ago.

It is too much for me too handle and i have little time or privacy to do so.

Learning is fun but getting bodied a million times in a row without knowing what the fuck happened or what i could have done is not really that fun.

I also cancelled my dbz pre order because i'm sure the exactly same thing will happen. I might buy it years later when it is cheap just for the single player content though.

>>385838394
Yeah, I'm sorry I read that wrong, I thought you were thinking about subbing Ky. I'd say the most beginner friendly characters are Sol, Ky, Elph, Leo, Raven and Faust. Leo is the only one who has charge inputs, but they're really simple, nothing that you need to charge mid combo. Leo might be for you if you'd rather stay on the ground.

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Stop getting hit by 5Ds.

>>385840563
I can't. They're the most obvious overheads in the game and still I get hit by them 80% of the time. I don't get it.

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Stop mashing and getting counterhit.

I don't like any of the character designs in Guilty Gear

Milia, Baiken, and Potemkin are the only ones that look cool

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How much do you need to vary your midscreen oki as venom? I almost always go for the K ball jump in, but I can't just dash j.S > ball hit every time because if you become predictable with it you'll get blitzed. If I feel like I can get away with it I sometimes I do the ball set KH > dash 5P >ball hit>teleport crossup. Anyone else feel like sharing some good midscreen oki options for Venom?

Also, what should I do against Slayer after knocking him down. He can backdash cancel so much shit and just get out. I've seen some Venoms use the KP ball formation after knocking him down and dash 5K to send both balls his way. I think this is a way to catch him if he uses his invincibility to try to backdash or jump out, but I'm not really sure. Any knowledgeable venom players here who can elaborate?

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>>385841261
If you don't think Johnny is the tightest shit then I'm glad you're not playing.

>>385841394
I sometimes set the P ball and hit with 5D, so it'll bounce back from the edge of the screen. If you time it right, the ball will pass over them, then bounce back and hit from behind when they stand, while you dash in and smack them with whatever
but I'm a scrub, so I'm sure there are better options

>>385836486
That's good. You're teaching people the matchup. That's a lot more helpful than playing So, Sin, Johnny or Leo and doing the same thing as everyone else.

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>>385842361
I actually didn't even know 5D caused balls to bounce against the walls. Neat, but probably not very useful for the slayer matchup, which is what I'm having issues with.

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Do I learn Pot, Leo or Slayer for big dick damage

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Saved from the thread last night if anyone is interested.

>>385841882
Reverse search has no results... Source?

>>385841261
I'm always impressed by how much shit Baiken fits under that kimono. There's a katana, a grappling hook, a rifle, a cannon and a whole sleeve of fuckhuge blades.

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Are there any alternative ways of doing Baiken's kirei tatami other than 236956K? I can't seem to do it consistently.

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>>385843279
I had a bit of reservation at first, but I honestly love the leather jacket over the kimono. The skull print on the shoulder of the side with the missing arm is a small detail that just adds so much to the design IMO.

>>385843262
Mama Tama

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>>385843279
that missing arm leaves a lot of spare room

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>>385835271
>This will never happen

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The goggle over the eyepatch is also great. It gives off a nomadic biker impression when combined with the leather jacket and the sandals/combat boots combo. It makes sense functionally too. If she was ever in a situation where she needed to be wary of dust or debris in her eye, she can just quickly move the goggle over to her eye.

>>385835271
Has there ever been a girl worse than Elphelt? She's so inferior to her little sister it's not even funny.

>>385843279
I think she must be summoning some of the stuff with Ki like May with dolphin and otter

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>>385843885
I ended up really liking El after story mode in Sign. Also Elphelt is the younger sister. Ram was made first.

>>385843885
I like Elphelt. She's like human version of Amy Rose and it's cute.

>>385844009
I thought it happened the other way around.

Also I just can't stand her. Her personality just doesn't work for me and her dumb ass hitboxes traumatized me.

>>385843093
Pot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWz4gAOVb1w&feature=youtu.be&t=490

>"You're still top 8 to me"

I SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE
FUCK YOU ELPHELT IM GONNA PLAY BAIKEN NOW

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>>385844196
I do think she was a bit underutilized in Revelator. But I can understand why some people can't stand her, even if its for no other reason than her hilariously OP buttons in Sign were before any patches.

Her story was tragic and I found myself genuinely caring for her well being by the time Sign's story was wrapping up. I'm a sucker for "love freak" characters, like Flonne from Disgaea, and Elphelt was a astonishingly human version of that IMO.

>>385836042
I recognize this artstyle! That's oro sumaikata

>>385843327
Thats the easiest way to do a super jump IAD imo. You're just gonna have to practice it, as it's pretty useful for other characters as well.

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>>385835271
How do I have fun with fightans? I've been doing combo tutorials in GG lately to improve my execution, but instead of feeling nice when I finally do a combo, I just thing "fucking finally". It's like school all over again, but this time I'm doing it to myself for some reason.

I just want to enjoy fighting games...

>>385845373
Gotta have someone to play with. I started playing fighting games because it was the best way to spend time while getting high with my m8s.

>>385845373
If you don't enjoy labwork you probably won't really enjoy fightans DESU.

Or you could play tekken or KI where combos are a bit more self explanatory.

>>385845373
Fuck combos, just work on a simple confirm into a knockdown, and then fight computers/people

>>385835271
Elphelt is a whore always looking to be married by any guy who looks her way. She along with Jam and I-no are for fugs only.
>>385845373
You don't even need to know that many combos to be good at GG. Many of the longer combos aren't worth the little extra damage unless you want to to squeeze the kill.

>>385843327

There's 4123696K if you feeling up for it. If you can't do it consistently, feel freee to find other uses for tatami that you can uses in lieu. Just because there is something that's optimal doesn't mean you can't use something sub-optimal.

>>385845373
Don't worry about combo mode tutorials. If you can do the basic ones that means your execution is good enough to start playing. Focus on a few bread and butter combos that you can do consistently under pressure. Once you've got it down hop into some matches and get your ass handed to you. At this point it just becomes learning what you did wrong and how you can improve, which is a lot more fun.

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>>385835825
>tfw Robo had the best scenes in story mode and he's not even playable yet

>>385845512
I have friends who are way better than me. Playing with them feels like i'm just wasting their time.

>>385845526
I like everything else though.

>>385845731
>>385845763
>>385845904
I'm not doing combos to learn them, I'm just trying to improve my overall execution, since it's really really bad.

>>385845373
Just get a simple bnbish combo down and go play with people. Learning when to move, block and strike will get you much further than memorizing a fucklong flashy combo that nets you 30 damage more.

>>385835271
This is so cute.

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>entire anime episode worth of Raven/That Fag homolust
>entire anime episode worth of doing the Grandpa Sol and Leo's got a lot of paperwork jokes over again
>entire anime episode worth of Venom shining shoes
>ZERO mention of how the fuck Ramlethal came back to life

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>>385836042
Best fanart coming through

I wish I could be good at fighting games but im too stupid to memorize combos.
Also, spending like 60 buckeroos (when on sale) for the complete version of Guilty Gear seems like too much.
That being said, Elphelt's game looks great.

>>385846498
Raven saved her life, she never died to begin with

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>>385836042

>>385846639
Then why does Leo talk about burying her remains?

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>>385846143
I had a similar situation where I had friends who were much better than me. They told me that they were having fun teaching me, which motivated me to improve. Don't let that stuff get to you. Don't be afraid to ask them for tips.

Execution comes with practice. Learn a few simple combos like your knock downs and your basic air combos. You need to learn how to use those way before you'll ever need the longer, execution heavy stuff. If you can't use high execution combos they don't mean anything, and you'll have a lot less fun early on.

>>385845893
>>385845052
I'm not a Baiken player. Just trying her out in training mode for a bit. Seems like something you just have to grind out. I can only get it right about 20% of the time. tk youzansen fucks me up even further. But I've found that the 6321473S input for it is easier to do with the analog stick on the pad so I imagine it's easier to do on stick as well. Thanks for the replies. I'll probably go back to Venom soon because this is just too much. I could swear I had an easier time doing both kirei tatami and tk youzansen in +R.

>>385846609
It's 40 dollars, unless you live in some 3rd world hell. You can buy rev 2, you don't have to upgrade through rev.

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Can you buffer the charge on charge moves like Leo's fireballs while doing other shit? I'm watching Tomo's videos and he gets that shit out so fast it looks like he isn't even charging it.

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>>385846078
At least that interview with Daisuke at EVO made it sound like robo is next in line to return, so hopefully we'll see him playable soon™

>>385846498
>implying the shoeshine episode with venom wasn't great

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Decided to get into GG after EVO and all these threads on /v/, maining this motherfucker right here and holy shit, this is the most fun I've had with a fighting game in a long time, Never played an anime fighter though, so I'm still pretty shit, hut fuck are these combos fun.

Also post mains

>>385847239
yes

>>385847239
Yes, that's exactly how he does it.

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>>385847409
This guy right here. I just need to get his kick loops down and I'll be tearing ass.

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>>385847409
a lot of people here are new, Rev 2 brought in a lot of people alongside the fact that capcom is fucking up with SFV (i transferred from SFV to rev 2 as my first GG myself)

>post mains

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>>385847409

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>>385847409
>>385847621
Haven't found my color yet though.

>>385841394
Landing 2D to S-carcass, c.S pickup.
Also add a tiny more dash to overshoot your j.K on your K-ball setup for a crossup (if the ball is meaty, use a 2K on crossup).
YRC a 5P on a set P-ball and run in behind it for TK-Struggle, TK-Struggle feint into 2K or 2D.
With those and a H-ball teleport setup, you should be fine.
Also, if you find people are blitzing a particular setup, counter blitz, grab, or backdash and start charging a QV. They will think again about blitzing

>>385846851
Hey stop talking about that

>>385847621
Jack-O
It's weird because I hate using her minions

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>>385847409
faust players are the best. one of my favorite characters to fight against. good choice, anon!

>>385847356
I know, I was being facetious. I loved all of that stuff, it just irks me that they glossed over Ramlethal when they had made such a big deal over her "dying".

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>>385835271
>Elphelt will never force you into marriage with her

>>385845373
Learning combos sucks, the best way is to learn a handful, and when you start having trouble picking up advanced ones, use what you've got against bots and players until you've got them down and slowly start cultivating better stuff.

>>385846143
>Playing with friends feels like wasting their time.
Never ever, anon.
Especially GG players, the game is so dead they will do anything to gain a potential player.

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>>385847967
Didn't Ishiwatari say that they are working on a side story C for Rev 2? There's always the chance that one will focus a bit more on Ramlethal and Elphelt. Though I doubt it since they already appeared in side story A

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zzZZzz...

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Keyboard or stick? I had a stick already laying around for shmups. Keyboard seems significantly more difficult overall, but stuff like this fucks my shit up on stick.

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I gave this game a try for a couple of months and had to quit. It's an okay fighter but just really really overwhelming with mechanics and character gimmicks.

Got into it because my buddy said it was fun and I guess it was fun for him. He just destroyed me over and over. Sessions of 20+ games without a single win. Got to a point where if he got a certain positioning on me I just put my controller down and let him finish out the match while I read news on my phone. That was a much better use of my time.

Shame because it's such a cool-looking game but really is some of the least fun I've ever had playing a fighter. I hope they streamline future iterations and remove the extra shit like danger time and re-purpose blitz-shield to be a bit more intuitive.

Sticking to KOF and Mahvel for now. Looking forward to DBFZ.

>>385845373

GG is just not fun to practice. Would recommend games with easier pay-offs/more stuff to practice like marvel or kof or even street fighter (thought i wouldn't recommend 5).

GG is a terrible fighter to start with. All the vets act like it's the easiest shit in the world will pick up they'll pat you on the back and say "you'll get better" but you probably won't unless you put some broke-brained levels of practice into it. I hope GG doesn't ruin fightans for you.

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>>385846851
First off, it was Convict Hammer that said "some remains are still recognizable". Second, notice how Ram's right arm and left leg is covered in bandages? They're prosthetic limbs that Raven made.

Should I get this on PS4 or PC?

>>385851162
But nobody plays SFs other than 5, and even though GG has pretty few players it's still a whole lot more than most fighting games.

>>385845373
As someone who recently started, I can say labbing isn't fun at the start. Do some combo trials as a warm-up, before going online, preferrably every time you turn the game on.

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>>385850141
Wake up.

>>385850612
>wahh I want instant gratification
People like you are why SFV is the way it is.

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>>385851427

But I hate SFV. You'll see I never even brought up SF. You did.

It's a cute attempt at an argument though. I think SFV is boring and braindead. On the other side of the spectrum, GG is too niche and obtuse to be picked up by people who want a clean fighter without a bunch of extra bullshit tacked onto it.

It IS beautiful though. I have to give the game that.

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>>385851356

If you look you can find people to play in any game. Unless you want IRL matches in which case that just depends on where you are. Still, your nose is better off probably not playing next to your average anime player. They tend to have a certain aroma to them.

>>385851638
I never said you play it but, expecting to get better in only about 20 games is expecting much.

>>385851870

You can't read. I clearly CLEARLY said "multiple sessions of 20+ games with no wins". That means I played a lot of games- a lot of them. I've been doing it for over two months and I'm not new to fighters.

I think I'm just getting old though because all I want is a fun fighter with diverse characters and not too much bullshit. SF lacks the diversity but GG just has too much bullshit. It's cool if people want to play it but I figure giving an honest opinion on the game is good for people trying to decide whether or not to buy it. also gives this thread a bit more purpose than "WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE WAIFU".

>>385850612
>overwhelming with mechanics
Instant block, faultless defense, RC, alpha counters and burst total up to 5 things. How the hell were you 'overwhelmed' by that?

>Got to a point where if he got a certain positioning on me I just put my controller down and let him finish out the match while I read news on my phone.
Oh, you're just one of those people. Enjoy being bad at everything you do because you think you should be immediately good at it.

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>>385843093

>>385850612
It's fine, the game isn't for everyone. I don't really agree with most of what you said, except danger time, but I can definately see where you're coming from.
We're all looking forward to DBFZ, it seems to be pretty easy to get into, I hope we all like it.

>>385852201
I fucking love Slayer's design

ya but i always get a 30+ lose streak. really demoralizing

>>385851162
SFIV is much more frustrating execution wise with tight links and a bunch of hidden OS

>>385850612
>Wanting them to change a game to suit you because you didn't bother learning it properly
Fuck off. People like you are the worst. Its fine if you can't handle having to keep all of these mechanics in mind during a fight, but that doesn't mean the game needs to be changed to accommodate you.

>>385852257
We just had a lobby on PS4 yesterday that was pretty newbie friendly. I'm sure PC has the same.

>>385851817
The point is that GG takes far less practice to start seeing results because it has more new players than any game other than SFV, Tekken 7, or Netherrealms shit. A lot more.

>>385850612
Your friend sounds like a dick

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lobby where

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>>385852251
Dandy af

>>385852386
You generally don't need tight links for good damage. But in Guilty Gear anyone that isn't Potemkin, Slayer, or Sin demands a clusterfuck of buttons to do more than a scratch.

>>385852128
>over two months
>friend been playing the game much longer
>gets bodied
Sounds like your just mad your friend was better than you cause he actually put in the time.
>>385852767
Stop talking about games you know nothing about.

>>385851162
>GG is just not fun to practice.
Man, just moving around in this game is fun. Maybe anime fighters aren't for everyone.

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>tfw no one in my country plays GG
Yeah, I didn't want a local scene or anything. It's not like I'd like to play with someone in person.
I'm so jealous of you americans.

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>>385852180

>2 types of blocking

Why? Just have one that defends against everything or doesn't. Why do I need two types of blocking? Add in push-block on guard like marvel if you need but two types of blocking is just dumb.

Also you have to be ready to to FD to keep your character from sliding. Why does your character slide? It seems pointless like tripping in Brawl was. Little things like this don't add to the fun of the game, just make it more tedious.

>RC

There's 3 types of RC's. Be sure to learn the timings and position for every move for every character or you will either flub your RC or get caught by an opponent's wily RC you didn't even think was possible. What a fun mechanic.

You also forgot Blitz-shield, which has got to be one of the worst-explained mechanics I've ever seen.

There's also super jumps and air dashing AND instant air dashing.

It's a needlessly complex game. If a bit of the fat was trimmed it would be much more accessible without compromising what makes it fun in the first place.

Danger time is of course the most egregious. But even little shit like sliding from a run could be removed. That shit is pointless.


>>385852461

I saw results waaaaay faster in SF, KOF, and Marvel and Marvel is broken as fuck. That is a piece of shit broken game. But at least unlike GG it was fun to learn and so I was able to get better.

>>385852893

I mean yeah it's pretty annoying to get spanked over and over and never improve. I don't get what you felt you communicated with this post?

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>>385835271
I'm glad I main you, Elphelt!

>>385852917

Movement is great except for a few key things that irk me.

>sliding

Why do I slide? All it does is get my ankles caught because I misjudged my run. Why can't my character just stop? Oh they can? But I need to hit two buttons just to stop quickly? Why?

>airdash momentum

I've played some airdash games but GG's airdashes are just fucking weird. The momentum never feels consistent and IAD-ing makes this feel even worse. I don't feel like i'm gliding throught air. I feel like a cat with no claws sliding on a linoleum floor. Sometimes I airdash straight through an opponent too. Where's the consistency?

Other than that movement feels great in GG. KOF and GG are pretty good when it comes to movement.

>>385853106
eh, to each his own.
i enjoy all the options. Whenever I'm in a fight and I think "Damn, I wish I could do [some movement or defense thing], I realize there's mechanic for it in GG that I just need to incorporate better. This is one of my favorite things about getting better at fighting games. But it's not for everyone

>>385853106
>You also forgot Blitz-shield, which has got to be one of the worst-explained mechanics I've ever seen.
What's wrong with Blitzes?

>>385839320
>>385839354
>/fgg/
>/blaz/
/vg/ is a containment board for cancer, not video game discussion.

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>>385847409

>>385852996
>My nearest local to play is 500+ KM away of my home.
But hey, at least I can play online.

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>>385835271
Anyone on ps4 want some free wins? I'm garbage and I hate it and want to get better.

>>385853106
As a new player KOF seems like the most daunting fighting game by far, at least among 2D games. Am I wrong?

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>>385853550

Why isn't it just a straight parry? Why do I have to hold it? Why can the opponent knock it back to me? Why two buttons to do it? Why am I suddenly battling for priority in this dumb volley-ball-like back and forth trade of blitzes even though I READ my opponent's move with the first blitz-shield? Is this supposed to be fun?

Feels cheap and tacked on.

>>385850612
Don't respond to this, it's pasta.

>>385835271
Can't stand fighting games. Anyway, I'm so consumed by depression and self-loathing that I don't even play video games anymore. I just sit on my bed and go on 4chan.

>>385853774
Maybe because other characters have regular parries that you can choose to play if you want that shit.

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>>385853707

Shouldn't be. It's very easy to get into. There's 4 buttons. A + B rolls you, and C + D knocks the enemy away . you can do both of these while blocking to escape the enemy's offense.

After you learn combos and max-cancels the game isn't very hard to get into. The movement is very fun though with the addition of rolls to running, jumping, hopping, and hyper-hopping.

>>385853774
because a 1f reversal parry that you can charge would be too strong in a game like GG if you couldn't reject it back. also the risk and reward change based on whether or not your opponent has meter or if you are in the corner.

>>385853774
What do you mean by a regular parry? 3s style?
I like the fact that it creates this little mindgame situation, but I think I understand why you dislike it.

where's the pc lobby

>>385853774
>Knock it back at you
Cancel the canned attack and come in with your own actual character offense or throw him

Going back and forth with Blitzes is not only wrong but it shows that both players don't actually know how to do anything with it

Yes it's tacked on

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>>385840812
You are slow and weak and a failure.

Call your mother NOW and apologize!

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>>385853921

Mmm.. so you can't answer all these other obvious problems with the mechanic but you can tell me to switch characters.

Anime players everybody.

>>385853829

Nah it's not. I just give my opinion to people looking into the game so they know what they're getting into. Don't try to get these poor saps to fund rev 3 with their money if they aren't gonna play it more than a week after they figure out how much fucking time it takes to get good at it. That's not very fair at all.

Is Blazblue easier to get into than GG?

>>385853106
>Why? Just have one that defends against everything or doesn't. Why do I need two types of blocking? Add in push-block on guard like marvel if you need but two types of blocking is just dumb.
Because they do entirely different things. Keep up. Pushblocking is already in the game had you actually paid attention.

>There's 3 types of RC's.
Not a required piece of knowledge and easily learned anyway. Do an RC late you get a shit one, do it while the enemy or you are not in a neutral state you get the red one, do it while the enemy is in neutral you get yellow.

>Be sure to learn the timings and position for every move for every character
There is no special timing for RCing in Xrd. Have you even played this game?

>You also forgot Blitz-shield, which has got to be one of the worst-explained mechanics I've ever seen.
You press two buttons to parry an attack. You hold it to charge it and turn it into an attack. You are braindead if this doesn't make sense to you.

>There's also super jumps and air dashing AND instant air dashing.
Instant air dashing is not a mechanic, it's a term used to describe air dashing ASAP. Super jumps are nary required to play the game nor are they significant enough to warrant an additional explanation, because everyone that paid attention to the tutorial or has the ability to infer simple things would have seen that you go much higher but lose your double jump.

>>385854326
>Super jumps not required
It's literally one of the best options to escape the corner

>>385853668
Make a lobby

>>385853519
>But I need to hit two buttons just to stop quickly? Why?
Because the game wants you to have to use meter to control you movement with precision, they also want stopping to affect the tension pulse. Meter gain is heavily based around movement in GG so having to use FD for instant stopping makes sense.

>>385854437
i haven't done a super jump to escape the corner since acr

>>385854264
not really, but they're both good. if you like GG but want longer combos or more craziness, try out BB

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>>385854202
But it's past midnight already, I don't want to wake her up.
I swear I'll get better and learn to see them coming.

>non beginners joining beginners room
come on ino guy... what is the point

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>>385854179

Just a single button or a direction + a button would be fine. I don't need a 3s parry even though I love 3s (despite what babby westerners think, COOP has shown that 3s is alive and well and parry ruins nothing unless you just suck at being creative with your mix-ups).

>>385854326

So all your arguments are the game needs these mechanics. Why does it need them so badly? Well because they can't balance the characters so they stick in more dumb universal bullshit for you to have to remember because they are lazy.

It's okay to point this out in a game you like, you know? I like plenty of games that are busted garbage in one way or another. This garbage just smells a little too different for me, I guess.

pic related: the only good thing to come out of XRD. What cute ears.

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I can't play anyone besides Sol and I only have Sign because I am too poor for Rev 2. Hold me.

>>385854616
>Well because they can't balance the characters so they stick in more dumb universal bullshit for you to have to remember because they are lazy.
Ad sequitur. Explain yourself or stop talking, scrub.

>>385854480

That's a shame because it adds nothing to the game other than frustration. You can run in KOF and there's no sliding. GG doesn't need it either.

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>>385835271
There was A Guilty Gear collaboration in this shitty mobage Brave Frontier a month or two back.

The best part was Elphelt trying to force the player into marriage. She's pretty cute.

>>385840296

play people at your level.

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So I've been wanting to learn Zato for awhile since puppet type characters seem interesting once mattered. Execution isn't really a problem for me, I'm an elph main but I used to play viper in sf4 so my execution is pretty up to par, though Zato's execution difficult in a different way.

How should I go about learning to control Zato and Eddie at two different rhythms? It feels like trying to play these guys is much like trying to separate your left hand and right hand rhythms from each other on a piano.

>>385854264
No because it's a dead game.

>>385854825
Its like you completely ignored his actual explanation about how it alters tension. Let's try again.

You gain tension while running.

You use tension while using faultless defense.

So first you gain tension ,and then to dash back you have to use a tiny amount.

Of course it isn't necessary. Neither is the entire Faultless Defense system, or Roman Cancels. But they are in the game as part of the system.

>>385854616
>Just a single button or a direction + a button would be fine.
I think it's the fact that GG has always been a 5 button game, so they put the extra mechanics on button combinations. I don't really disagree with you, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
I hope we get to play as That Cat soon.

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>>385854769

The stronger character balance is, the less you need to patch it up with universal mechanics. The character balance is insanely weak in GG without your five to seven extra mechanics added in there would be no chance for say an Answer to fight a Zato. The devs know how broken these match-ups can be and so they add in a bunch of universal mechanics for you to remember so it doesn't quite feel so broken.

What non-anime game has a mechanic where you get out of a combo just by hitting two buttons? None. There's plenty of alpha counters etc. But no other style of fighting game is so potentially broken that it needs a Burst style system.

Makes the game look cool but playing it feels like I dunno.. playing nothing at all. I can't even get into the action in GG because I feel so bogged down with so many caveats and (necessary) situational knowledge. you can't look at a character in GG and know what they are going to do. Makes the game exhausting to learn and a chore to play.

>>385854857
Do you have more pics?

>>385835271
I can't even stay mad after losing to an Elphelt player and she squeals some goofy romantic nonsense.

>>385855348
>What non-anime game has a mechanic where you get out of a combo just by hitting two buttons? None
MvC:I
Tekken Tag Tournament 2

>>385855241

Actually FD and RC are very necessary or else the game would be grossly unbalanced (more than it is now anyway).

>>385855348
>>385855503
Killer Instinct

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>>385854508
You must practice everyday anon.

>>385855084
there is no one at my level mate.

at least not in my region

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Bring back slashabcks.

>>385855348
What's wrong with the Burst system? I think it's one of the best mechanics of the game, it allows for a mindgame while you're getting comboed. You can even use it offensively, if you feel like you won't need it.

>>385855891
Muh reward for hitting you

>>385854825
But microdash footsies are fun.

>>385855672
I will, don't worry.
Chipp's 5D is still bullshit.

>>385855891
You can even bait them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9juEot2dJ0

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Practice is not fun but I have to practice because matches are pure frustration where I no idea what to do in most situations and I drop every combo that's more than two buttons or in/from the air. I don't know what improvement looks like.

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>>385855460
Not of scenes like that, unfortunately. They got me good with the collab, though. In still playing this stupid shit.

>>385855521
Fair enough, but someone complaining about how FC as dash break is "unnecessary" probably doesn't know or care about that.

>>385855348
There are universal mechanics, but there are a lot of varied and interesting characters to play as. Why is this a bad thing to add fundamental game play mechanics instead of turning it into a gimmick fest?

Also, stop acting like bursts are a get out of jail free. They are completely reactable to punish, and if the opponent does it at a proper time in a combo, you can just spend 50 meter to RRC it and get another full combo on them.

Post more elphelt you faggots

>>385855769
Can someone explain what I'm looking at to someone who has never played non-xrd GG?

>>385855348
>What non-anime game has a mechanic where you get out of a combo just by hitting two buttons?
I'd say MK9 and X, but they only need one button.

>>385856062
>Practice is not fun
Then why are you playing fighting games?

>>385852996
>Why did you emigrate to america? was it for better opportunity
>Naw man, to play GG

So how hard is this game for real?

I've never played it and know no one with a copy to give it a try, but it looks fucking complicated to me. I'm decent at SF and KOF games and when I see most fighting games I can tell what's going on, but I have no idea in GG. All the characters seem to have a certain gimmick to them which might be making that hard to me, but I do find that cool.

Is it really as hard as some people make it out to be, or if I'm used to other fighting games (without airdash) will I be able to get to ropes quickly?

>>385856241
dude playing jam is somewhat parrying all chips moves.

>>385856275
i think it is more the lack of progress that frustrates him. i went to a similar process and it takes all the fun from the games.

>>385856070
Damn
>>385856054
Yeah, it's so rewarding when you bait a burst and reset the combo.

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>>385856241
It's tool assisted and although it's technically possible it's pretty much humanly impossible to perform.

It starts with Jam using her character specific parry, then switching to slashbacking which is the yellow explosions. Slashback uses 2% meter and acts like a parry. It must be inputted just before an attack hits but if it misses, you cannot block for a significant number of frames (30 or something)

Landing them also ramps up your meter and meter gain. You can see the rate of meter gain in the flashing of the tension bar. In this one the meter gain ramps up so high she gains more meter than she spends when landing puffballs.

Even at high level they were not used very often.

>>385856275
Matches are pretty fun in spite of the frustration, and I hear that if you invest enough time the frustration starts to abate and you can focus on more interesting things than not fucking everything up.

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>>385855348
>no other style of fighting game is so broken it needs a burst style system

Uh, what? Nethrealm has combo breaking mechanics, except that if I understand them correctly (I may not, I don't play Nethrealm games) they use super meter and aren't baitable like bursts are.

>>385856250
He makes a much broader claim immediately after. The difference between one or two buttons is moot, he claims it's an anime games only mechanic.

>>385856275
I'm sure the majority of people who purchase fighting games don't practice. It isn't surprising someone might not enjoy it. I used to, now I don't because I've got other shit to do so I can't devote the time anymore.

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>>385856212
Here you go.

Thinking of playing Chipp. Even if I'm not good I still get to play the fastest character in the game so that's fun in itself.

>>385856706
Cute klutz (I still can't dig her recolor in revelator)

>>385856548
>So how hard is this game for real?

Making combos is usually pretty easy with most characters.

All the movement, tension bar management, mechanics and character specific traits are the real complicated stuff. IF you don't play it a lot you are probably never getting good at it. SO i recommend getting into the game only if you have a lot of time in your hands.

>>385852767
Sin button is actually hard for beginner due to doing multiple motion to cancel from one cancel to another

Many combos are just basic gattling into special cancel or sweep. Gattling is a lot easier than links to do consistently. Ggxrd also have generous buffer for input. A lot of characters also don't rely on big damage combo but many small short one and use set up to keep them going. The damage also depend a lot on which hit you confirm with to determine the scaling. If you are playing with other beginners, everyone will do unoptimized combos. You can always RC to easily extend the hit confirm to your more comfortable combo and have plenty of time to do so with the time slow down

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>>385856548
If you are good at SF and KoF you can pick it up if you put a little time in.

Some characters are more different from each other than in many other fighting games, but they aren't impossible to grasp. And a bunch are fairly normal, so if you start with Sol or Ky you'd be fine anyway.

>>385856548
Well, I'd be lying if I said it's not complicated, but once you actually start playing everything makes sense pretty fast.

>>385856548
Xrd was my first fighting game, it's not as tough as some people say, as long as you want to learn. Something that might feel weird to a SF player, is the movement, but you'll get used to it in no time.

>>385855348
Different games are different, that's what makes them appeal to different people. GG has always been universal mechanic heavy while games like SF have usually been mechanic light. You seem to think that a game has to come from one school to be good.

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>>385854508
You think Kurisu would let you just mope about 5Ds? How are you ever going to reach your EVO timeline?

>>385856054
So how do you bait someone who bursts the second they are hit?

Just 2P?

>>385856632
Was that a Jam specific technique, or could anyone in the cast use it?

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>>385856130

My argument is there's too many universal mechanics for anyone new to GG that wants to get serious in it. You can act like i'm an entitled baby or w/e but the fact is that GG is not accessible for a few very good reasons despite being an okay game. It could be a GREAT game if they just tried not to make it so niche. All the knowledge you need vastly outweighs the benefit of playing for MOST people.

I am merely listing my problems with the games for people like >>385856548 who don't know what GG (or anime in general) is like. I play a lot of fighters and have done so for over 10 years. I remember spending my money on garbage fighters I wasn't going to really get into and being disappointed. It's at least fair to tell someone like that what they are getting into so they don't waste money for a bunch of autistic assholes to get Rev 3. At least be honest with him about how soul crushing it will be to lose over 400 matches in a row without knowing what even killed him.

>>385857325
Basically. Any fast recovering move works since you can block the burst and punish.

sorry but i play kof instead
too bad it's mostly by myself as noone on /v/ plays xiv on ps4

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>>385856706
I wish I could learn Elphelt but the amount of character specific stuff she has is just scary, so i've been too wary to try her. Is she actually as hard as i'm thinking?

>>385835271
GG peaked at +R, why would I want to play a watered down casualized version of it?

>>385857456
Now what if it's a pain in the ass to even land the 2P?

Do I have to give up all concept of pressure until he bursts? What if he decides not to burst when touched by 2P? Then I just kind of eat shit and do no damage, right?

>>385857546

KOF is the best fighting game this generation and it's a shame more people don't play it.

>>385857393
at least be honest that the problem is with you and not the game.

>>385857325
They are 19 frame start up. Learn a decent punish for it and either block it, or if you are using a big HS move or whatever, roman cancel if you see it and punish. You have to be sorta looking for it and be a little cleaner
than auto mash with your combos, but it feels so fucking good to rip that burst from them.

You can also air grab, but I still need to practice those in general.

>>385857376
The first part is Jams parry, but the yellow flashes are universal.

FAB was especially known for making good use of them: https://youtu.be/qL6lxb69EpQ?t=168

>>385857553
No

>>385856891
I think it suits her, I like the white hair a lot more. I also think that the white/black colorscheme looks better than the white/pink one. Only thing I don't like is the weird spiked collar she has.
But hey, to each their own, at least they still have the sign costume in game.

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>>385857636

Of course it's partially me. I'm not an autistic jap with 7 fingers negative-edging eddies all day.

I mean, is that what you wanted to hear?

>>385835271
Is that a Slyveon?

>>385857839
This isn't what autistic means. I'm autistic and this offends me. I demand you delete this post immediately.

>>385857839
yeah but with less retarded snark

>>385847250
They've done way too much with that model for the next character to be anyone other than him.

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where's the lobby?

pic unrelated, old tier list

>>385857574
Because you don't pay +r, shitposter

>>385847923
That was a fucking beautiful combo and the perfect way to end that set.

>>385857582
You don't just hit 2P and stop. There are burst safe combos, they are usually less damaging but in return bait out bursts well. I play Johnny so half the stuff is already burst safe and I just mist cancel to bait things. Or you can eat the burst and then they have no burst for a short amount of time. Bursting is an interaction between both players, baiting and predicting bait.

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>>385857553
Time wasted being worried could be time used to practice.
>>385857902
Yes.

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>>385857246
I'll get there, don't worry.

>>385858062
make one

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>>385857987

I'm sorry I don't praise GG as the second coming of fighters (other than graphics maybe). It really just is an okay game overall with a stupid high learning curve that will see pitiful reception outside Japan- just like every other anime fighter.

I don't think it's bad. But it's certainly nowhere near as good as people fellating themselves in unofficial /v/ generals would love to have you think.

>>385857839
I sincerely doubt you've been playing fighters for ten years as you've said at any level above playing the single player and maybe 3 casual matches before shelving it, because you wouldn't be nearly this bad and whiny at the game if you had. The execution in the game is loose as fuck compared to a game like KoF and SF and the gatling system makes getting simple high damage combos off easy as fuck. If you had the fundamentals down you wouldn't be getting stomped nearly as bad as you claimed you did.

>>385857675
So does it just work like a better version of just blocking?
Thanks anon this is cool stuff.

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>Playing Guilty Gays when BlazBlue exists

LMAO

>>385853519
Slide is extremely useful for pressure, particularly tick throw. Tick throw is really easy when you can get that extra boost and reduce the distance you have to micro walk after the jab. Also, if you have a meaty normal, you can have a small moving active hitbox when throwing out your normal and slide a bit during active frame

>>385857675
damn

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>>385858374

Execution in KOF XIV is pretty loose compared to previous entries. Most combos are Normal > Command Normal > Max Cancel > EX > EX > special > super. Inputs overlap very nicely for satisfying inputs like 236A63214A for a fireball to a super fireball. I've never complained about the combo'ing in GG. It's lack-luster really and gatling combos are fine (I like Marvel) but it's nothing to write home about.

Also yeah sorry man turns out I have been playing FG for over a decade and just have a different opinion than you. Difficult to imagine, huh?

>>385858149
Ky has no burst safe combos

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>>385858523
It even gets best girl.

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>>385858574

I would be fine with removing slide to make tic-throwing a bit more difficult. I can never react to tic throws in GG because of how fast they are. I can react to them online sometimes.

BlazBlue:
>Better modern character design
>Good variety of music
>Faster-paced combat
>Hardcore, actually takes skill

Guilty Gear:
>Archaic ugly macho men character designs
>Only heavy metal and nothing else
>Slow as shit
>Casual, actually easier than BlazBlue

There's literally no reason to bring back Guilty Gear when BB is just the superior version of it.

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>>385858724
Why don't you just go play KOF then instead of complaining that GG needs to be changed? Not every fighting game needs to be the exact same.

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>>385858284
so your issue with the game is that it isn't popular, and you don't want to learn the mechanics because of that. guilty gear is by far my favorite fighting game, and while it does have a lot of flaws and valid criticisms, your issue is that there are too many mechanics, which is a pretty uninformed opinion. the game is difficult to learn for sure, but not because you have to learn what a blitz does or what a burst does. that's an insultingly simplistic way of looking at things.

>>385858840
>React
I think you're just gonna have to anticipate tick throws according to their habits. Then again, if the opponent just uses it to deliver the last damage then there's really nothing you can do except not get into the situation. I just watch out for wakeup 2P or 2K that usually means theyre ready for a tick throw. Also, FD beats Tick throws since it pushes them away after a 2P/2K

>>385857553
I've been playing Elph for six months, and I'm doing fine even without the character specific stuff. Go for it anon, she has really good normals and gatlings. You can do it.

Speaking of which what even are the character specific stuff everyone always tells elph has? I know on some characters 2D can lead to an air combo, but that's about it.

>>385835271
Anyone else want to lick Elphelts eyes? they look like candy to me.

>>385857553
Elphelt is pretty easy to pick up

>>385859131
I'll play for like 20 minutes with you, assuming no connection issues.

>>385859057

You're fighting arguments that aren't even being made. I didn't say make it more like KOF. I just said KOF felt better than even previous iterations.

Is you posting as Shake some sort of meta joke because you seem pretty god damned retarded.

Is it just me or do you have less time to input special moves in the air versus on the ground? On the ground I can roll inputs somewhat leisurely and get a Vapor Thrust, but in air I get a normal, nothing, or Stun Edge.

>>385859159
Some characters are easier than others to do unblockables on, though it seems like no one cares about El's UBs now

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>>385859051
>Only heavy metal and nothing else
You are saying that as if it was a bad thing.

>>385857553
>throw grenade
>have it explode on enemy
>combo them into the corner
>shotgun shot and reload
>repeat until dead
Give her a shot, anon.

>>385859276
Is this air combo ender stun edge? For some reason my friends had trouble with that as well since theirs cancel into air stun edge instead

>>385859457
No, it's vapor thrust.

>>385855348
>no chance for an Answer to fight a Zato
Answer has one of the easiest times killing Eddie though. YRC card is a bitch.

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>>385859507
Pic related.

>>385858840
I kinda have to semi-guess tick throw and that goes for every game. You sense a pause after a jab, suspect a throw attempt, and push button and hope you didn't just get frame trap. The same goes for tick throw in SF. Though you also have the option of fuzzy jump with FD and you don't have that option in sf

I need to remind myself to FD more when jumping to escape to stop getting hit by shit like sol's fafnir or revolver

>>385853774
It's not a straight parry because spending 25 meter to parry one move is stupid. Jam has an actual parry for highs and mids so just try her and never blitz if you're not interested in ever blitzing.
You have to hold it if you want to do blitz attack, or reject another projectile attack. It's to give you the option to make it safer.
Blitz wars help balance out blitz so blitz as an option is very strong already. As long as one player have 25 percent meter you have to respect that your opponent can blitz you back.
Why does sf have two buttons to throw? It's the command for it. Two buttons held are required for faultless defense so blitz is a similar input to make it easier to use.
Just because you parried something in 3S, or absorbed an attack with focus attack in 4 meant it was your turn to play. Some options cover these defensive options.

>>385859457
>>385859507
Combo ender vapor thrust*
Yeah made a mistake. Anyway my friends did have a problem with that. Its something to do with cabcelling from j.H. Try practicing it from a j.S

>>385859134

Nah man I listed my issues and why it's exceedingly difficult and inaccessible and chock full of pointless garbage no one will want to learn unless they have a mental problem. It's great that it's your favorite fighter. My favorite fighter is 3s and that game gets shit on all day. I don't go crying about it and defending the game like it's my girlfriend though.

>>385859141

Removing slide would make it reactable. Having to go back to using FD is just annoying and one of the reasons I dropped the game outside being too drunk to give a shit. I can react to tick throws in lots of games. But never GG.

>>385859629
Oh, that's weird. Is it a bug or a feature?

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>>385859203
I'm not the only one that thinks about this right?

>>385859374
Heavy metal is for plebs. Fitting for the people who like GG, though.

>>385859306
Yeah, I can't do perfect reloads in her sniper stance, so I usually don't even go for unblockables, unless the opponent has a pixel of health.

>>385859269
The crux of your arguments in this thread seem to be that the game is overly complex and needs to be simplified for newer players. I disagree. GG's wide range of defensive options make it very unique, and it's not nearly as difficult to learn what all these do and how to implement them as you're making it out to be, although it does require practice to implement. But the great thing about fighting games is that there are like a billion of them out right now and a decent amount of people playing them. So you can play KOF or something else that interests you if you don't really want to put the time in to learn GG's mechanics, and I can just play GG since most other fighters don't really interest me, except maybe KI in a few months.

>>385859705
Letting yourself get trolled is never okay

>>385859051
>Hardcore, actually takes skill
heh
oh man part of me wants to pick up the new game and take only a week to catch up to most players like i did the past other iterations

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>>385859705
Here you go buddy

>>385859374
Don't even reply, it's some shitter who is here 24/7 to shitpost about games he doesn't even play.

>>385844009
I am just sad she lost the Solbowl when she worked so hard for it.

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>>385859261
>>385859131
Or not. my old HHD probably needs to be replaced. Got a boot error and need to verify my files.

>>385837148
It's literally one person who posts the same thing over and over again in every thread

>>385859613

Yeah all you did was just list out the things that make me hate the mechanic. It's a read so I should benefit from it. Why can he potentially benefit from my read? That is neither fun to play or play against.

It should neither cost nor build meter and be a straight parry on one button or a button + direction with extra taps needed to parry extra hits. This would make it a pure survival mechanic that allows you to conserve meter without getting an OP tension boost from doing it.

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>>385859705
Glad to see you've woken up.
Here, have a cute picture of my wife!

>>385847607
How do you play this guy?

>>385859832
It's not a bug. I think its either you just have a shorter period to input from j.H or the input was not inputted cleanly. Its a common problem among people who start with Ky and do the air combo ender VT from j.H. Hell, imagine doing an air combo ender Ride the Lightning its even worse

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>>385860230
Cute wife.

>>385860027
>shitpost about games he doesn't even play
Sounds like GG niggers who always shitpost about BB when they don't even play it.

>>385859932
>only a week
Meanwhile in GG, you would only need a day. Yes, it's that casual.

>>385859924
How come the trolls are always only "GG is better, BB is trash lolol" but never the other way around? That's because GG faggots are not trolling and they actually believe the ignorant shit that they say.

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>>385844945
thanks for this, friend

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how do we fix dragon install?

>>385860325
No, you can do the input slowly but cleanly and just get nothing after the j.H. Why does only j.H have a smaller special buffer?

If anyone was in the eu w beginner lobby, bless ya friends. actually got to play against someone who was as new as i was

>>385860439
Bring back Order Sol

Would anyone like to play on PSN? I'm US Midwest

>>385860349
Thanks dude, yours is cute too.

>>385859880

You can "disagree" all you want but the fact that the game is less accessible = less sales = less money for future iterations. The game doesn't pull shit for player-count outside of Japan. This is great if it keeps ArcSys afloat but also makes the stigma (that Anime games have as being too niche and inaccessible) very appropriate for them to have and keeps them from moving forward. I would like to see them make something that feels a bit more fine-tuned.

>>385859720
I fundamentally do not understand why you think the game is just so exceedingly difficult, since I learned the game just fine with minor FG experience beforehand. I also got some of my friends who don't play fighting games into it and they play regularly now.

if you're going to critique system mechanics that you don't have an understanding of, i wouldn't be surprised if people "defend the game like it's their girlfriend".

>>385860490
That Im not sure. My friends did get over the problem down the line though. Its just something you need to grind. Have you tried inputting VT fast after j.H? Check your command history

>>385860439
Extend the song to the next round if Sol wins.

Let him charge his specials for like 25-30 frames or whatever in dragon install to make them unblockable unless they blitz for more pressure than just turtling until he has to recover. Might be a dumb idea, I don't even play Sol, just throwing out ideas cuz dragon install is cool.

>>385860784
Yeah, I've done the trial, it's just weird having to pause and then quickly roll the vapor thrust motion.

>>385860620
>You can "disagree" all you want but the fact that the game is less accessible = less sales = less money for future iterations. The game doesn't pull shit for player-count outside of Japan. This is great if it keeps ArcSys afloat but also makes the stigma (that Anime games have as being too niche and inaccessible) very appropriate for them to have and keeps them from moving forward. I would like to see them make something that feels a bit more fine-tuned.
Why does it need to be popular? You obviously don't like the game as it is, so why should the game cater to you rather than its current fanbase? Yeah it doesn't make Street Fighter bucks, but look at its entrant numbers at Evo. It's basically the most popular anime fighter outside of maybe Japan. Not everything needs to appeal to everyone, because that's how you get something generic and safe rather than "fine-tuned."

>>385860280
I've just been doing combos I found on dustloop forums and pressuring with his 214k and 236HS. Oh and watching tournament videos and stuff.

>>385860230
What an ugly bitch. I'd rather a BlazBlue girl.

>>385860640

I just have played too many FG to deal with games that I feel are promising wrt to gameplay but bloated wrt mechanics. It just feels like too much to learn for such little pay-off.

>>385860891
Whenever I try Ky I do pause a lot after j.H. That normal just looks and feels hard-hitting after it connects

>>385860439
DOUBLE THE DURATION
DOUBLE THE HITS ON DP
DOUBLE THE HITS ON GRAND VIPER
RIOT STOMP +100

Seriously, why is BlazBlue so much superior than this shitty Guilty Gear? How can you guys deal with playing a kusoge?

>>385860582
Just throw up a room then wait and see if people join.

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>Guilty Gear in the age of BlazBlue

>>385861140
I'm on keyboard, and I think I'll just double quarter circle instead of vapor thrust just to have the inputs I need, fast.

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I legitimately see literally no reason to keep playing Guilty Gear when BlazBlue is superior in core gameplay and everything else.

Man, you guys are so weird. Why that much shit taste?

I hope we get Classic Ky as a costume for Ky like how we got Classic Elphelt. Seeing his old uniform in the digital figure mode made me remember how much I liked it.

>>385861065
Please don't say mean things about my wife.

>>385861132
Its ok senpai. I do have the same problem wiith Tekken. I live in a country where SF and all the other fighting games virtually have <100 players and Tekken reigns supreme. Whenever people say fighting game first thing that comes to their heads is Tekken. I never really got into it because my first fighting game was Marvel Super Heroes so I got accustomed to flashy lights and fast aerial movement. I tried picking up Tekken 7 and it just feels alien to me; how you have to block high by default and react to the low instead of the other way around, how you have rising animation normals as DP, how sidestepping is a valid way to avoid moves, its just too much for me to take in. Even when they put in Akuma it still doesnt feel right.

>>385860912

I would just like all FG's to get the coverage SF gets. SF doesn't even deserve the attention it gets right now. I'd actually PREFER GG be the main event at EVO compared to SF. It's just I can clearly see why it isn't. A few fixes to make it more accessible (not fucking braindead like SFV) and GG could be the golden boy.

How often should we expect patches for rev 2?

>>385860325
>>385860490
>>385860784
I do accidently stun edge instead of vapor thrust sometimes. However I am getting cleaner with it.

The trick is to spam input forward while inputing in j.H and then finish the motion with 23H as soon as j.H connects and hitstun. This is also useful when trying to ride the lightning off your aircombo

>>385861494
Buy Hitbox. It feels like a decent investment at this point.

>>385861738
Interesting. Then again I use that "mental trick" for DPs for TK DP notations as well, like Baiken's instant overhead TK Yozansen. Since the notation is 62369S, its very hard and cumbersome to input it, so what I do is to hit 6 then do a normal TK (2369) and it comes out.

>>385861718
Not that often, maybe one will be coming soon, with Robo-Ky and Ariels.

>>385861661
If SFV's hilariously retarded launch and problems couldn't knock it off the top, nothing will. Anime fighters won't really ever be top even if they had the most normie friendly mechanics ever. It's just the brand name and legacy by now, and people still view most anime/anime styled shit that isn't DBZ or the FotW as autistic.

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>>385861752
>$200 for a 10 button keyboard

>>385860225
>it's a read so I should benefit from it.
You play 3s though right? Some characters shit all over the read parry. Parry Makoto or Alex? Eat a throw OS. Oro and Urien? Have fun with this unblockable. Just because you can read something doesn't automatically mean you can punish it.

>Why can he potentially benefit from my read?
Again, not sure how you tolerate 3S if you hate having your reads covered by OSes. If you want an answer specifically for GG though the answer is easy. 1 is blitzing back cost meter, 2 is hitting them out of blitz give you a counterhit state which is super big for a lot of characters and finally it loses to max charge blitz and throws. There's a lot of ways to challenge it so in that regard it's much better balanced than you're making it out to be.

>It should neither cost nor build meter and be a straight parry on one button or a button + direction with extra taps needed to parry extra hits

Why though? You can hold the two buttons if you reject multiple things. You're complaining about the game being too complex and your solution is to make it even more complex????

>>385861661
SF will never get dethroned in the Western FGC. The community and scene are just so deeply rooted to the brand since its the fighting games the TOs and pillars grew up with. Financially, its the Capcom protour money that makes the scene even function these days. As much as anyone would want a GG GF or even a BB GF in Evo, it will never happen

>>385861661
>PREFER GG be the main event at EVO
Don't be delusional. You're sounding like a Meleetard.

If even GG lost to BB for Sunday spot even for a year, don't even dream of getting it to at least 2nd to last event.

>>385837148
>I don't think I've seen this phenomenon with such an intensity anywhere else
You've seen it if you've seen Smash and >not a real fighting game

Only /v/ cares about completely old and outdated arguments

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>>385861608
I think Team Red was using Elphelt's costume change to enter the costume market, because after the story mode, many people changed.

>Ram got her new leg and arm
>Venom changed his appereance
>Jack-o is now Aria
>Dizzy and Ky's old costume are in the arcade.

Or I least I want to happen in the future.