It's time to discuss the best first person shooter ever

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>He hasn't finished Doom 1-Final with KB-only controls
what's your excuse?

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8>4

>He hasn't beaten Doom on UV pistol challenge with kb only controls while blindfolded
Are you even trying?

why do people hate slaughter wads

>>385819225
repetitive in nature, big open flat lands to compensate for the amount of enemies, some feel baited from the visuals of the maps in screenshots.

I don't mind them too much, but I can get why some people can despise them.

I hate how people say d44m is just like this game

>>385816698
Fuck you I play the game in my own terms, bitch. I use mostly the shotgun/double shotgun for everything. What can u do about that huh little bitch? You cant do shit. I am enjoying it and fuck you.

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>>385816698
>It's time to discuss the best first person shooter ever made.

Alright - What's your favorite Quake episode? I personally think E4 is underrated. Spawns don't ruin the game at all, and the Vore actually gets used with frequency for once. A lot of LG ammo, too

>>385820104
>not a CoD clone so it's "retro" by default
I like both games but doom 4 has totally different gameplay philosophy.
also I hope they remove those retarded fucking rpg upgrades that every modern game has.

>>385820243
pistol spawn/start is literaly that, you start every level with just the pistol, not what weapon you use.

I think uv + fast monster + pistol start is the ultimate doom experience

>>385816698
it's not that hard desu

>D44M shotgun
>Attach a thing to it, for it to shoot grenades, even though there's still one barrel
>There's still one trigger, which is for the main fire mod

The guns make no sense in this game and the mod MetaDoom literally makes it weirder for the fact that its shotty is the D64 one, which wasn't meant to have reloading animations.

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I can't even beat it in hurt me plenty

>>385825193

I don't believe you.

>>385816698
There is literally nothing wrong with save scumming.