Do you become personally offended when someone says Ocarina of

>>385769824
Why would someone's shit taste be offensive?

>>385769824
No, I just think that this person hasn't played much vidya.

Do you become personally offended when OP makes a shit post?

no, because its top 3. tied with Mario 64 and majors mask

No, but it's incredibly dated. I never played Zelda and tried OoT two years agora on the 3DS. Unfortnately, it was disappointing.

I'm sure it was good back in the day, but even playing an updated version I felt that it aged horribly. I think the 2D Zeldas are much better.

>>385769998
Mario 64 and Quake came out withing one day of each other going by Japan's Mario 64 release date.

No, it just means they got most of their information and taste from Dorkly.

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>>385769824
No. I'm not Dobson.

>>385769824
Haven't ever played any of those, fuck off.

It's not the best game, that's Majora's Mask but it sure comes close.
Talking about the 3DS remakes of course. The originals are lower.

>>385769824
No, it's always people who grew up around the SNES and N64 and lost interest in games later on. They're the same nostalgia blind people who say SMB3 or Mario 64 is the best platformer

>>385769907
this

>>385769824
It's sad to say but most OoT babbies are now grown ups and don't come to /v/ anymore or don't feel as strongly anymore because they have become jaded husks of themselves, and the new kids didn't have a zelda to grow up with and will just blindly go along with the shitposting set as tradition for all these years

>>385770531
But SMB3 is one of the best platformers

And ALttP is the best Zelda.

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>>385770531
This.
>Play same game tons of times in childhood
>Grow up, realize adulthood is shitty, so rationalize everything that's around you after being a child is shitty.
>Play maybe 5 new games a year.
>"Let me tell you why my favorite childhood game will never be topped!"
It's been topped awhile ago buddy, it's time to fucking let go, especially when the defense for it is "W-well it was released X years ago" if it needs a fucking crutch to win a comparison between it and something else, you've already admitted it's inferior.

>>385769824
>personally offended
Fuck off back to tumblr.

>>385769824
No, I become amused at the silly statement they made.

>>385770906
>implying anything has ever topped Earthworm Jim or Zombies Ate My Neighbors

>>385770167

the pink hair was a code mistake or something, it was supposed to show yellow but they didn't bother to fix it. so he was wrong since at least the third console game.

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>>385769824
No, It was pretty much the best game ever at the time of its release, and there are still far worse games out there involved in Best Game Ever discussions

On the other hand, I will never not be butthurt when someone calls Super Marios Bros 3 the best game ever

>>385771385
It was done to keep Link from blending into the backgrounds

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>>385770531

and they say sonic has an autistic fanbase

>>385769824
They arent offeneded as much as compelled to become a contrarian twat. It's as if they believe doing the opposite of what many other people do makes them thoughtful or have taste.

It should be noted that being a contrarian is far easier than doing either of those.

inb4 "that doesn't mean I have to like it."
If that's the case you are right. But calling something overrated is the twat part of the insult because you haven't developed enough self knowledge to even begin to understand someone well enough to declare what they do or don't enjoy.

>>385771389
see this
>>385771495

Is what I was talking about

How can that fat fuck write crap like this after Mario World, 64, and Galaxy had already come out

>>385769907

/thread

If you get easily upset by normies with shit taste you'll have a fucking aneurysm

>>385772327
I agree people who say OoT isn't the best are pretentious and insecure, but everyone has the right to their opinion. No matter how wrong they are. It's like the argument between atheism and religion. You can't change someone not amenable to being changed. The best thing to do is meet on some common level. The thing is people who say OoT is the best are already standing up for something, whereas those who deny it typically don't have a solid counter-argument or have to stack various games against it to hold one.

Eg. see this thread. (Not a single video game has been mentioned other than OoT's brothers).

>>385769824
I get offended when they don't.

The three best video games of all time are as follows:
DOOM
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64

>>385769824
No, I merely make a mental note that they don't value gameplay in a video game. If they were to ask me at a later time if there's any cool games out (since I'm the guy into video games) I'll just recommend them a story based game or the hottest walk around and do useless shit game.

No because I was in the camp. It was definitely the best game of its time but it has NOT aged well. It was great because of what it accomplished at the time it did. Still a sold game with cool dungeons but not the GOAT like many claim.

>>385772861
>this game is the best
>no this one is better
>LOL YOU HAVE TO USE A DIFFERENT GAME TO DISPROVE THAT MINE IS THE BEST? HA, GOTTEM!

>>385773075
Read it again. This question is if someone says Ocarina of Time IS the best game of all time.

>>385773206
I'm saying that non-OoT proponents are wishy-washy. How can you come to common ground when the opposing party doesn't have one? Granted, part of it is the fact there's few games on the level of OoT, but the other thing is an unwillingness by those who hate it to come to terms with its greatness and influential legacy.

I think a better example would be Breath of the Wild.

>>385772861
I don't get what you're even trying to say that someone can't use the argument that Ocarina of Time isn't the best because there is something better?
That doesn't make any sense.

>>385769824
Not in itself. I feel compelled to countershitpost when it's posted on /v/ by the same guy for the 27th time each day though.

The only way playing OoT makes anything feel disappointing, is in carrying the constant regret with you for the rest of your life that you ever played such a piece of shit to begin with, and lost that slice of time forever.

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no, because it just means they never played the greatest game

>>385773414
And by unwillingness, I just mean anyone who denies OoT and Mario 64 shaped this industry into what it is are only fooling themselves. Every game takes at least something from one or the either. Even if its something mundane like riding a vehicle in real-time without shifting to some different POV.

>>385773414
>have to stack various games against it to hold one.
Yes, in order to prove that a game isn't the best game ever, often people will list better games.

See:
>>385773007
>>385770893
>>385770401 (lol)

>>385770531
Mario 64 is the best game ever made. I didn't play it until I b was 15 and got it on the ds

>>385773556
mah nigga

>>385769824
I just tell them Majora's Mask is better
They usually don't even have a response

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>_____ is the greatest game ever created
100% of the people who say this are irredeemably retarded

>>385773941
>botw isn't the greatest game ever created
100% of people who say this are irredeemably retarded

>>385773820
ALttP>LoZ>LA>Oracle>ALBW>OoT>WW>TP>Z2:Link>MM>SS

Still don't know where to throw BotW

>>385774059
Shh you'll summon ACFag, you're clearly talking about games journos somehow.

>>385769824
I tried to play it but my eyes hurt. I can't stand the fps rate.
Is the gamecube version better?

>>385773820
Why would I diginify that with a response.

Unlike you I was old enough to see how thee game was received when it came out

>>385769824
OoT is an insufferable back tracking piece of shit, and some of the worst game designs in history.

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>>385774095
Normally I'd shit on you for being a 2D purist, but your ordering of the games within their respective dimensions is so fucking spot on I can't help but like you

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>>385773598
Even altogether those games don't take away from the tightness of OoT's design. It's like me saying Rurouni Kenshin is the best anime, and someone going "B-B-BUT SAMURAI CHAMPLOO, AFRO SAMURAI, AND BERSERK EXIST!" I don't care. Those are all separate series and have their own host of flaws and shortcomings. And they came after Kenshin but fail to be as good.

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>>385774095
>LoZ, LA, and Oracle that high

it's dated, but don't let nintenbros catch you saying that

>>385769824
I tried to play it as an adult and thought it was really fucking boring, the combat is just "lock on and wait for boss to show weak spot", dungeon design was meh, and Hyrule field is just a big empty room. Windwaker was way more engaging but people threw an absolute shitfit about the artstyle at the time.

>>385769824
I'm sorry but Ocarina of Time is only that good for people who have nostalgia for it. anyone playing it for the first time now will have a good time, but it won't be the end-all be-all of games for them.

>>385774609
3DS remake helps a lot. Ignore the nostalgiafags. It's the definitive version

>>385769824
I don't really get the hype for this game. I played it. I beat it. It was ok. I moved on. I've never once thought this was even a top 50 game.

>>385774613
>the combat is just "lock on and wait for boss to show weak spot"

Fuck off Arin, no one cares.

>>385772558
>How can that fat fuck write crap like this after Mario World, 64, and Galaxy had already come out
Because SMB3 is easily better than all of those games.

Movieblob is still a hack though.

>>385774703
You were too spoiled by bad game designs before it to really appreciate it.

>>385774719
>Because SMB3 is easily better than all of those games.

It's bland and recycled as fuck. There are several other Mario games I can play to recreate the general experience of 3. Those games still feel like they have their own unique identities.

>>385774552
The games don't detract from each other, the point is that the listed games are individually better than OoT. Just because something did something "first", doesn't mean they did it best. Your entire argument seems to be "They based x off of OoT so OoT must be better". Well, OoT based the entire item and dungeon system off of ALttP, does that make OoT objectively worse than ALttP (I mean it is, subjectively, but still). That's not saying OoT isn't a great game, it's just not even the best within the Zelda franchise, nevermind all of gaming.

>>385769824
Nothing offends me because I'm not a little pussy bitch boy who gets his feelings hurt by words. If people's opinions bother you it's because you're a sub human pathetic piece of trash. The universe shouldn't waste energy holding your atoms together. Stop being weak.

Fable > OoT

OoT is a shit game that's been retroactively overrated so Sonygros can use it to shit on BoTW. True Nintendo fans realize that Zelda was a shitty, overrated meme game until BoTW came out and saved the series with a beautiful open world, intricate and challenging shrines, full voice acting, story and characters that actually matter and modern Souls-like combat design to make the game the best game of all time and one of the hardest games of all time too.

Remember, emulation is widespread so Sony shills don't have to buy Nintendo products in order to play old Nintendo games to make fake comparisons with, don't trust anyone who shuts on a new Nintendo release by comparing it to an old one. Old Nintendo games may as well not be Nintendo games anymore.

>>385774865
wut

At any rate, I think the 2D zeldas are infinitely better. LTTP > all of them.

>>385774897
>It's bland and recycled as fuck.
World is far more bland and recycled. SMB3 is packed full of content and is concise about it.

No, because it's an amazing, revolutionary game and I'm not some contrarian piece of shit that can't acknowledge its importance.

>>385774963
SMB3 is also ridiculously well designed. Levels are fun and engaging when played normally, while being simultaneously designed to be completed without losing P-Speed.

>>385774902
None of those games touch Ocarina of Time and I get the distinct impression you never played any of them but Doom, and are just using the others as a patsy. You don't know jack about Zelda if you think ALttP > OoT.

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>>385774932

>>385769824
the game was really average when I played it.
majora's mask is a bit better.

>>385774410
What's your point?
Lemme guess the reception was "Waah it reuses assets wahh."
I like sequels that build upon established foundations.

>>385775032
>>385775103
It helps when you actually played the later games first, so the step down in quality is more obvious you you go to 3

It's still a great game, but there's nothing about it later Mario games haven't been able to duplicate and surpass

>>385774964
>not caring for OoT means you're a contrarian

>>385773610
My first time playing Mario 64 and OoT were on the ds/3ds and there both shit. I dont even think OoT was good for its time.

>>385769824
No because everyone else has their own tastes and I have my own.

>>385775103
Resorting to fallacies in order to prove your point when its been otherwise destroyed? Thank you for conceding.

>>385775218
People were generally weirded out by its time mechanic and missed having Adult Link around to turn into.

It was well-received but the notion of it being in the same league as OoT was never seriously entertained before 2008.

Link to the Past holds up more

>>385769824
kinda because Link's Awakening is obviously the best LoZ

>>385769824
only sapes do

>>385775390
Well I prefer it so what?
Yes, OoT was very innovative and shiny and new. That's not the case anymore.
Looking at what I strictly enjoyed more, MM wins. Subjectivity blah blah blah. And I was a playstation kid, so yeah, I didn't play these games until the mid-2000s

>>385769824
Only if that person goes out of their way to shoehorn that "fact" into the conversation

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>>385775772
I'm not saying that you can't enjoy it. I'm just irritated by the constant whitewashing of history by those who say that the games were always seen as equals when it was not remotely the case

People were actually turned off by how different it was from OoT/LttP much in the way Wind Waker was. It was only when TP came out and people realized that rehashing OoT was not able to capture the same magic of the original that MM and WW finally saw their overdue appreciation from the community

>>385774964
you can respect a game's legacy but still recognize it's not so great today
Doom was a great game and did a lot of games after it
but is it great now?
same with Street Fighter II (not counting all it's remakes)
the list goes on

>>385775778
What if I just slide it in casually like "BotW was a really good Zelda but it doesn't come close to licking the boots of Ocarina of Time, the best game of all time."

Is that Ok?

>>385772861
>everyone has the right to their opinion.

Of course they do, but that means they have to deal with the concequences of sharing it. Namely, having somene disagree with them. What they should never be entitled to is a safe space.

When did the hate for ocarina start? was it because botw fags felt their game was shit like SS and will never be as good as OoT so they decided to start shit talking it as if it wasn't good? Fuck off.

>>385775231
The thing is, no later Mario game has been able to surpass it. World was a sharp step down in multiple categories and the 3D games are entirely different kinds of beasts. The two 3D games that attempt to be like 2D Mario (3D Land and 3D World) are complete trash and copy much from SMB3. If SMB3 weren't so immensely good or popular, why is Nintendo seemingly incapable of escaping from its shadow?

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>>385769824
>best game ever
Who is that statement for?
It isn't the average consumer.
The average consumer has changed.
He changed roughly a decade ago.
You have people who don't like old videogames.
People who don't like exploration.
Who don't like puzzles.
Don't like reading.
There is no appeal in it for people like that.
They are now the bulk of videogame consumers.
A shit-sucking class-based arena shooter won GOTY last year.
That is the state of the industry.

>>385777219
It would be for the game "critic" but gaming is struggling to gain a credible, critical community like the ones that exist for movies, books and music for reasons I don't fully understand yet.

>>385777219
Oh fuck off you nihilistic old bitch. No one ever treated those awards as something that was worthy of praise. The industry isn't nearly as bad as you people make it out to be.

>>385769824
No, when i saw people claiming the same about stuff like Deus Ex it made me realize some people will always be beyond saving, so why bother?

>>385777471
Yeah, those Deus Ex bros didn't know what they were missing out on when OoT and MM were reigning '98 - '00.

Nope, it's a respectable opinion. Not that i completely agree.

>>385777406
>nearly as bad as you people make it out to be.

yeah its worse. not only do the low bred actually have bad taste, they have the gall to believe their taste is something better. that they deserve anything less than a brand on both eyes and removal of their hands.

surely you wouldn't let one go and keep on they way they have been if you met one would you?

It's obviously one of the original 3D games that set the tone.

After having just replayed the remake on 3DS, I still agree

Now if only they could take perfect dark and give it c-stick auto aim, it might work

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>>385774932

>>385775390
so it was different? That doesn't mean it was worse by anymeans.

My favorite game is Ar Tonelico 2.

>>385769824

No, I throw his shit opinion into the metaphorical trash can where all nostalgiafags' opinions belong.

No because it was a fucking amazing game, if you didn't play it when it first come out and got blown away by such an open world game for its time, then you won't get it.

>>385769824

Actually kind of pity people who openly admit that any Zelda is as good as it gets for them.

>>385770906
>This Renaissance painting is foundational to our understanding of art and what makes a good art piece, it's one of the best paintings of all time
>YEAH BUT THIS PAINTING LOOKS MORE REALISTIC SO IT'S BETTER
Your points are not how things work, just because something plays better or feels newer does not mean OoT was not one of the most impactful games of all time, and yes, that means it's one of the best games of all time

>>385779507
Funny, I pity you for the same reason.

>>385769824
no. its just their opinion.
sure, i disagree, but their opinion isn't really that offensive.

>>385779697
Videogames aren't as deep as art so your statement is misleading and gay.

>>385769824
So if OoT isn't the best game ever, what is?

I'm not saying I think OoT is the best game ever, but I am curious as to what other games could be serious contenders.

>>385769824
No. I'm not that insecure.

>>385777219

>Cropped porn reaction image

Into the trash you go

>>385777141
Ha funny that no one replied to this. Its because youre right.