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>open world >casualized the fuck out of the gameplay >so

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>open world
>casualized the fuck out of the gameplay
>so easy to the point where it gets boring
>control problems from the 1st game are in future as well
>more characters but they play nearly the same so theres no point
sooo how exactly is this game better than the original?
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its funner you dummy
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Better controls and responsiveness

Open world in this is good
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Who the fuck cares, it died along with its shitty platform.
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>>385752494
>casualized the fuck out of the gameplay
How?
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>>385752947
>nobody chases you after getting a certain amount of graffiti done
>the graffiti mini game is gone
>no timer
they basically removed what difficulty jsr had and did nothing to replace it
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>>385752494

Someone never owned an Xbox. Game is comfy as fuck. The controls were great. The visuals were great. I prefer it to the original. Just rending around and tagging to goid music on big open stages with no time limit. Fuck yea
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>>385752731

Found the faggot. Why do niggas have hate boner fir Xbox around here. Saying it was shit will never make it true yo people that actually played it.
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>>385752494

>control problems from the 1st game are in future as well
Blatantly false. Future plays like a dream compared to the original and the only thing that really could be improved is the camera. I miss the QTE tagging but really that's it. Future is faster and more smooth to control, and runs at 60fps.

Future is better because the level design is significantly improved over the original. Future's levels are bigger, better, and more interesting. It's easier but arguably more enjoyable because the controls and environments improved that much.
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>>385752494
Level designs are fun and comfy for the most part. Impeccable sense of style. Just plain fun to explore.
>>385753202
They made it a more pleasant streamlined experience. The whole graffiti mini-game would interrupt the tone in JSRF. JSRF is more about exploring and seamlessly skating through the environment.
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>>385754047
>It's ok to casualize a game as long as it's more fun
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>>385754168
>casualize
>remove rudimentary graffiti minigame and high scores that don't fit with the platform-y style of the sequel.
I'm okay with this.
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>>385754168

Well, yeah. Jet Set Radio isn't an RPG.
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>>385754095
>fun
>comfy
>streamlined
nice buzzwords
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>>385754168
You say that as if it's a bad thing, anon. Don't you like fun?
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>>385754409

>it's an xbox exclusive so it must be shit

It's okay. Real fans that had a Dreamcast and a job went on to snag an OG xbox.
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>>385754739
i actually love the original xbox and dreamcast, probably in my top 5 favorite consoles. i dont understand what you are trying to get at here.
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>>385754814
People who started with Future get defensive when you bring up that it was an objective downgrade from its predecessor.
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>>385752494

Having played it again recently with adjusted expectations I enjoyed it, but going in when it was new disappointed me since I expected a direct, similar sequel. Both games are products of their respective times. Future adopted traits from that generation (open world, easier/accessible) and traits from the previous title would not have fit in due to the different flow or style of game. The original might seem stiff now but it was focused on a more arcade style type gameplay, right in line with a lot of Sega's library on the Dreamcast.

I prefer the original but Future is a good game, just not what I wanted since I like arcade style games.
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>>385754168
it is, I don't see the problem. Casualization is only bad if it effects the quality and it doesn't in this case, it actually helps it
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Name a better song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mizSUxxuCiY
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>>385755050
Good points. That "arcade style" gameplay was very common on the DC. Both great games in their own ways.
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>>385754969

>owned a Dreamcast with over 100 games including jet set radio

Future is much better
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>>385755050

Just realized the way I stated this makes it seem like the Xbox and DC were different gens. My bad. I always mix that up.

>>385755424

Agreed. In some ways it kinda reminds me of Chrono Trigger/Cross. I went into CC expecting CT2 and was very thrown off by what we got. It took a bit but I eventually liked it for what it was.
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I don't know man, I like it either way.
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>>385756373
Do you like it like this?
Like that?
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I owned both (main reason for getting an og xbox was for JSRF and PSO) and played them all a lot, and I can honestly say while I remember so much about the first game I hardly remember anything about JSRF other than the music. I don't remember being underwhelmed at the time, but it lost a lot of the tension of the original and it's those tense moments (competing a big tag with the popo on your back, finding the last tag with 3 seconds remaining on the timer, etc) and the overwhelming urge to play just one more time that defined the original one, for me.

I'd love a JSR anthology on the switch!
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>>385756480
I like it, I like it!
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>>385756665
>I'd love a JSR anthology on the switch!
Reminder a third one was planned for Wii at one point.
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>>385756950
Not sure if that'd have been a good thing. The concept art is pretty though.
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>more characters but they play nearly the same so theres no point
This was the only thing on this list that I had a problem with
Do many diverse characters but most of them are just copies of each other and don't bring anything interesting movement wise
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>>385753202
>the graffiti mini game is gone
Good, the mini-game was fucking SHIT
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>>385756665
>PSO

I just recently found my Xbox copy with my Live password. It was a trip hooking that systen back up and playing.
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>>385757224
so rather than having them improve it they just completely remove it? seems lazy to me
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Why is Yappie Feet the only Deavid Soul song not in JSRHD?
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https://youtu.be/BJhHchB5ePo

Running pretty smooth now, just need to fix graphics glitches
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>>385756771
I don't like it.
Not at all.
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>>385755372

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkVOnU16BMY&

CLAP
CLAP
CLAP THE BASS
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Alright, who's the best gang and why is it the noise tanks?
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cube is best jsr grill and you can't prove me wrong

>>385757613
Take it easy!

>>385757928
Can't front with that.
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>>385757928

>Not Funk

Missed opportunity
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>>385755372

https://youtu.be/FlwEtrYCNwM
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>jet set radio is a difficult game
>wah the sequal is so ez
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Well i do like the original better but future is great too
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>>385752494
>He doesn't UNDERSTAND
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>>385752494

JSRF offered more tricks to do and you can also do multiple grind tricks on one grind. How can you not like that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfgFnW3WOAI
best song coming through
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>>385755372

They're all 10/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1rgaxsjfo&
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>control problems from the 1st game are in future as well
I agree with your point in general but this is completely false.
They fixed the problem with aerial movement and the collisions in half-pipes but they also got rid of the momentum. They simultaneously made the controls better and worse in different aspects.

I hate the move to the "open world" (another bullshit phrase considering most of the levels are just circuits and less open than JSRs levels which offered a large amount of ways to approach and play in the level) collectathon and wish they'd stuck with and refined the arcade gameplay of the first game.
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Extra sugar, extra salt, extra oil and MSG!
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>>385757347
Not at all. They improved on and added other things.
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>>385758982
SHUT UP AND LET ME EEEEEEAT
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>>385752574
pleb detected
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>>385759079
sure they did
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>>385758982

JSRF music was so good that they even made total ear rape catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLz3ia7TFqM
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>>385752494
Is possible to buy it on Xbox 360?
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is there something wrong with me if I only like upset attack and both versions of grace and glory
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>>385752574
>funner
this buzzword again
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>>385759236
Yeah, it's on sale now as well along with Jet Set Radio HD.
You should go onto the store and buy it.
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>>385759236
You can play it on a 360, but I heard there's framerate issues. At least on the combo disc.
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>>385759297
yeah, you fucking weirdo
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>>385759131
Glad we agree.
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>>385759390
yup :)
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>>385759113
>>385759131
>>385759352
>>385759374
>>385759430
go pester another thread ugly
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>>385759574
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>>385759574
I don't know why you responded to me, I was just calling that anon a fucking freak for only liking 3 songs in the entirety of both game's soundtracks.
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>>385759362
Just checked and Future is not in the marketplace, only the first game.
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>>385759796
sorry i am not good at read on computer
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>>385759814
You fell for my cunning trick.
You will never get those 45 seconds of your life back.
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Keke. You're a fucking loser. Hope that means something to you.
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>>385759814
Silly anon, JSRF hasn't and will never get ported to another system. NEVER EVER.
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>>385759905
But I learned there is a bonus disc that does play on 360, time to hit Amazon
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>>385759172
>>385758982
>>385759095

This god damn song. I couldn't stand it when I first heard it while playing. Why would they put some Japanese girl screaming into the mic on the soundtrack?

Next thing I know, I'm fucking singing along. SIRTIETH BIRTHDAY!
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>>385752494
More tricks
More Tracks
More Style
Better Blacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR37_gK0F3w
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>>385760075
YOU KNOW MY LOVE IS SWEET
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>>385760008
JSRF on the 360 has really bad framerate, especially towards the later levels, some parts making it borderline unplayable.
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>>385760008
Eh, you're better of buying a used Xbox Hueg for cheap, grabbing some component cables and just playing on that.
The glitches and slowdowns really hamper the experience.
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>control problems from the 1st game are in future as well

that's where I have to stop you; JSRF controls infinitely better than the original, even if there are some quirks leftover.
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>>385760136
>better blacks
OHHH YEEEAHHH
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>>385754168
I know that you're joking but some people on /v/ actually think that absolutely no game should become more accessible to a more general audience.
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>>385760136
>better blacks
Reminder this fucking nigger managed to push a giant ass metal girder with his bare hands in a matter of seconds.
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>>385760460
>>385760331
WHAT UP KID?
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>>385760425
When this "accessibility" comes at the cost of removing everything unique and enjoyable about the gameplay like Jet Set Radio Future did, it's a bad thing.
Well-designed arcade experience with a high-skill ceiling and excellent level design >>>>>>> "Open world" collectathon no-challenge bullshit.
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>>385760460
Pic related: Garam circa 2051
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>>385753202
The minigame stops a lot of the momentum and flow.
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>>385760670
JSR was never a hardcore series to begin with; expecting them to not try to expand their audience is actually really funny to me.
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>>385752494

The qte's of the first game sucked, JSRF will always be superior because of it.
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>>385752494
sounds like you got add, bro
us patricians will enjoy our exploran games
thx
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>>385752494
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII LOVE LOVE LOVE YOUUUUUUU
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>>385752494
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>385754168

It totally is OK.
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DAYUM
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>>385752494
I never thought I'd see the day where JSRF would be used for shitposting on this godforsaken board. I thought the fucking up of DQ threads was the peak of faggotry, but no. It is this.
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>>385761164
Explain how it's bad.
It adds another layer of strategy by making the player have to consider if they have enough time to do the inputs before the police attack.
On subsequent replays, a skilled player will know which tags to prioritise in order to avoid the police.
Did you know that the amount of QTE tags that are accessible by police in each mission is the same amount of tags that need to be sprayed before reinforcements arrive? A good player can take his time with the QTE tags by planning his route and hitting the M/L tags first and then be able to speed through the level once the police arrive, only needing to hit the S tags.
The developers designed the game so that players could keep coming back to the game with faster clear times and higher scores through developing their skills.
But of course, you wouldn't know that because you're an ignorant casual fuckstain who gets confused at anything more complicated than "Press R to Graffiti and B to go fast".

You Futurebabies are pathetic.
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>>385752494

>casulaized gameplay
>new trick systems and better graffiti with better platforming
Ayyy another thread another retarded OP
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>>385761629

Yeah, I saw someone shit post the other day with the twin sisters from DQ4 and fooled an entire thread into thinking the one whos the seer was the "western censored" version of the dancer chick. It was pretty shit. I think I'm done here. JSR was always a short lived but fun series that no one really felt a need to talk shit on. I can't anymore.

Later nerds
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>>385752494
>Halo: CE
>Halo 2
>JSRF
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Jade Empire
>Psychonauts
>Fable
Remember when Microsoft tried?
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>>385752494
Only retards want games to go beyond what they set out to do.
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>>385762049
i remember.
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>>385762317
What's the loli game to the right of Blue Dragon? Seems out of place on a Microsoft console.
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>>385761887

See you tomorrow.

>>385762049

I do.

>tfw the tray of my my classic Xbox it's stuck
>the clip trick to open it doesn't work anymore, no matter how hard i try
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>>385761701
The qte's were bad because they broke up the flow of gameplay, and were basic bitch boring qte's. God forbid someone just wanted to skate and do cool tricks but had to stop doing something fun to hold still for 15 seconds and spin the analog stick in a circle.
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>>385762317
Blue dragon was unabated garbage get that shit outta here.
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>>385762391
I think it's the reason berserks on hiatus. Either that or love live
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>>385762391
the idolmaster which is a simulation/rhythm game.
>>385762564
doesnt matter, the majority of people liked that game
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>>385762591
>He doesn't know Guts one true weakness.
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>>385758982
Heard this playing on the radio the other day. Had me doing a double take.
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I WANNA SEE SOMETHING I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
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HELLO, ALLISON
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>TFW Jet Set Radio thread can barely get past 100 posts before dying
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>>385754095
>streamlined
New age pleb detected
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>>385757224
Fucking idiot
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>>385755372
Miller Ball Breakers >>>>>>>>>>>
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>>385759172
They should have use the superior original EP/Vinyl single version of the song instead of the crappy album version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI5j22h6OdA
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>>385759172
>People who don't like Cibo Matto
Fucking tasteless philistines I swear
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>>385761164
You fucking idiot, those QTE's are what separated JSR from another shitty Tony Hawk clone.

To this day those QTE's are the only QTE's that are decent from a gameplay perspective.
Kill yourself
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>>385762478
They didn't break up shit you retard
It was supposed to be an arcade game not a shitty Tony Hawk clone you nigger.
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>>385765847
The first game is more of a Tony Hawk clone than Future lmao
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>>385765662
>To this day those QTE's are the only QTE's that are decent from a gameplay perspective.
Want to know how I know you've never played God Hand?
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>>385765967
No it isn't.
Future is far more of a game for trickbabbies.
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>>385764485
literally everything sega related that isnt sonic, yakuza, and to a lesser extent miku is like that. thank god /vr/ exists.
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>>385766656
I thought /v/ liked Sega, what went wrong?
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>>385752494
Future is one of the simplest kinds of sequels. It just does the same thing again, but bigger. Same fucking cities, same street punks, same goddamn boss...BUT in the future! The levels huge, everything is flashy or shiney, you got sorta nitro boost, you can tag on the move now. I want every sequel to be like this. I miss this fucking game.

That rollercoaster level = best level
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The original JSR was unironically garbage outside of the art style and soundtrack, so it's all good.
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>>385767001
most of /v/ is in their early 20s so they were babies when sega went third party. they just see them as the company that makes shitty sonic games. its a shame, really.
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>>385758029
Cant argue with someone if they aint wrong
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I wish they'd make more just so we could get more soundtracks.
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>>385768249
http://jetsetradio.live/
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This is probably my favorite game of all time. I fucking love JSRF>].
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>>385760292
I disagree. While Future is much easier to control outright I find the level of control you can get in JSR much better once you get the hang of things. Future just feels like you're on auto pilot half the time but both games feel really great to play I'm gay.
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>>385765604
>Play JSRF some time ago
>Love that song
>Years later listen to all their albums, like them a lot as well
>Go see them live
>Worst fucking job by the audio team
>They still give a great performance

I still thank the mad man who had the vision to include them in the soundtrack
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Speaking of controls, what the fuck was the point to the 180 in the original JSR? As far as I could tell, the sole reason of its existence is annoying the fuck out of anyone who attempts to finish the tutorial.
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