Is MGS:V the biggest peice of evidence that mainstream reviews

No it's the biggest piece of evidence that reviewers only play for a short period of time before reviewing the game. Phantom Pain is pretty darn spiffy for the first couple of hours.

>>385748924
Yeah. Deserved a 98 at the least. Fucking reviewers.

>>385748924
If a game has gone mainstream, it never lives up to the hype. This, The Witcher 3, Dark Souls, DOOM(2016), Bioshock Infinite, etc.

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Not the Scholar of the First Sin
Not the even with the post release patches
Vanilla DaS2
91%
Also was a game of the year

>>385748924
No. Look at sony exclusives besides tlou. Theyre all mediocre games that score near 90. Or are clones of other games done worse

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Nah they were wrong before.

>>385749638
Dark souls 2 isnt as good as the first, but its at least a good game. MGSV is just bad

>>385748924
Irony of the story is, all the shilling for MGS V happened 1 year after the inception of GamerGate which was supposed to question this to begin with.

MGSV is an excellent game that people only shit on because M-MUH STORY

story is what matters least in a game.

>>385749751
>Theyre all mediocre games that score near 90. Or are clones of other games done worse
both of these apply to The Last of Us

>>385749751

Games like TLoU get rave reviews because glorified bloggers wanted their masterpiece of the medium to champion, so they in turn become legitimate critics.

MGSV reviewed well become most pre-release reviews were put under absurdly strict sessions where they didn't even get to finish the first half of the first chapter, but they need dem clicks so the review goes out anyway.

>>385748924
I think Bioshock Infinite takes the cake. What a piece of shit.
>Citizen Kane of gaming!!!!!

>>385749101
Zelda also falls into this category.

>>385748924
>best gameplay in the series
>sexiest waifu in the series
Fuck off neo/v/ scum

>>385750154
MGSV is a far, far better game than Dark Souls 2. Lords of the Fallen is a better game than Dark Souls 2.

>>385749101
>>385749101
This.

Most reviewers only play the first chunk of the game before they start writing the review. If you confronted them on this their justification would probably be that they aren't able to complete games because they have so many to get through.

Also there's no guarantee that a person reviewing a game in a long running series is actually familiar with that series. So for a lot of them MGSV could easily be their first Metal Gear and their only knowledge of the franchise is from cultural osmosis. That limited knowledge of the franchise might tell them that it's "good" and has a "dedicated fanbase" so they should probably give the game a higher score.

I've gotten more skeptical of games which recieve 9s and 10s on average. Review scores used to have some credibility. but, in the advent of publishers realising this, and media outlets, some times, giving games higher scores as out of fear of getting blacklisted, due to potentially losing revenue, they don't hold the same weight as they used to.

Any game recieving straight 9/10s or 10/10s should make someone think twice.

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>>385748924
Not when BotW and GTAIV are around.

Now those are some real turds.

>>385748924
Persona 5 is.

>>385748924
Bioshock Infinite

>>385748924
Reviewers dont play the game until completion. And this game has a very good beginning.

>>385750154
lmao mgsv is way better than ds2

>>385750927
unironically kinda this, when Ys games keep getting comparatively low scores from gaming publications it is rather difficult to take them all that seirously

>>385748924
No, Gone Home is

>>385748924
The Witcher 3 too

I bet my left nut most of those reviewers didn't even finish the game and just wrote the review during the honey moon phase.

Also, Skyward Sword is shit but it got a 93/100 on Metacritic and the Nintenbros went apeshit when Gamespot rated the game with an 8 when it actually deserved even lower than that.

But it's WAS good

>>385752064
Skyward is the best 3D Zelda, unfairly hated by Twilight Princess babbys.

>>385750276
Gameplay is repetitive with no bosses.
Also MGS has ALWAYS been a story driven game, so the fact this story sucks ofcourse matters. You're not playing grey blobs in a grey world, this is a mixed medium you know.

>>385752193
I hate Twilight Princess but Skyward Sword is legitimately one of the worst games Nintendo has ever published, and if not for Phantom Hourglass would be the worst Zelda game period.

Maybe someday the teenagers of /v/ will understand taste is a subjective thing.

>>385749101
Everyone does that, just look on steam achievements. 10% of people didn't even bother to finish the prologue, 35% failed to finish eighth mission, and only about 20% of people got to the ending, or Quiet arc ending. Game is solid gameplay wise and all of its flaws were pointed out in even the most early of reviews. Because gameplay is most important it's still 9/10 or more for many people. However there are some fans that are disappointed they didn't get their le epic ruse.

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The problem is that you're reviewing several games at a time and you're not looking at the games from a completionist's point of view, you're looking from the perspective of I'd say 70% of the gaming audience; the type who simply plays through the main story, maybe a few side ops, and one or two minigames. I'm pretty sure if I stopped playing MGSV after I beat Sahelanthropus I would've said it's around a 93. It's only when I played deeper that I realized how rushed the game was. I unlocked all weapons/gear, got all animals, completed all mission objectives, got Foxhound on every mission and stayed undetected for every Side Op (which is in no way necessary). When you get a hold of a game and want to do every little thing inside of it then the flaws start to show up.

It's why I like the idea of The Completionist, even though I've never watched a single one of the videos he's created; complete a game 100% and THEN give a review of it.

>>385752223
>Also MGS has ALWAYS been a story driven game, so the fact this story sucks ofcourse matters. You're not playing grey blobs in a grey world, this is a mixed medium you know.

MGS has always been a movie with minigames in between the cutsenes.

MGSV dared to take a different approach to the same tired formula.

>>385752303
That's just a statement of how shit of a taste you have.

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>>385749101
fpbp

>>385751719
Wrong. Get good.

>>385752223
>no bosses
Quiet (one of the best in the series)
Skull unit snipers
the crazy armored psychic skulls
Man On Fire
Sahelanthropus

Also yes, the games are driven by story, MGSV does have one though it's poor and barely in most of the game, but the core gameplay is what really matters. This is why MGS2 is better than 1 and 3 despite having shit like Rose in it.

>>385752393
Fuck off casual. Bet you read comics instead of books.

>>385752397
good to see you enjoy hours of tutorials, bland forgettable music, way too much fucking story and talking, crappy controls (aside from swordfighting which is great), ZERO ENEMY VARIETY, the worst boss in the series 3 times, shitty Mario painting levels, tons of crappy filler content, shit exploration, there is literally nothing aside from the art direction that Skyward Sword does correctly.

>>385752579
>(one of the best in the series)

apex kek

>>385749101
Still remember the bootcamps

>>385748924
I loved MGSV and liked it more than IV.

It was FUN

Yeah it had a shitton of problems, yeah the story was fucking stupid and Venom's twist is fucking retarded. But the first half of the game's story was still intriguing despite the memes, and it had one of the best gameplay loops with the most options that I've ever played. I enjoyed it a lot.

Do I wish the story was different, more impactful, more relevant, and just overall better? Yes. But I would still give the game a 9/10.

Do you see that word? Game.

That's why I have an issue with IV and think V is better. IV was a piss poor climax, albeit still satisfying in many ways, but I absolutely find it a chore to play in my retreads of the series. V is fun and I enjoy going back and messing with it.

No wonder Konami left the game business when every big game, ones 80 million dollar budgets even, are treated like absolute shit simply because they aren't what you want.

>>385750656
Yeah fucking right. Dark Souls 2 is far better than Lords of the Fallen and you saying otherwise just shows how much of a cancer meme the whole DS2 hater bandwagon is. Fuck off with that shit, you overexaggerating twat...

>>385748924
>amazing game with a shity story
>story is only worth 7 points

Feels like a great score to me

>>385752925
anon for fuck sake its not "what you want"
i gave this game a week ~ and in that time every single fucking mission was going to one of the 4 or 5 bases around the map and extracting some random guy or blowing up a tank
one of the few times i havent even bothered coming back to a game out of boredom
venom would barely say a word and every 2 seconds i had either ocelot or miller barking in my ear about the most menial shit

>>385748924
It's a good game.

/v/ memes aren't inherent truth anon.

>>385753264
>anon for fuck sake its not "what you want"

Right back at you.

MGSV is one of the best stealth games ever made from a pure gameplay standpoint, and also one of the best open world games.

HURR THE STORY SUCKED IT 1/10 KUSOGE NOW
fuck off and watch a movie

>>385750656
Nice b8

daily remind that only reddit faggots hate this game because they only play games for the story

>>385753470
For a stealth game MGSV sorely lacks good level designs. There are a few areas that are good and I loved those moments but 90% of it is just bland.

>>385750864
Another reason is that in some cases reviewers will literally not even receive a game until the day before, specifically so that they're forced to rush through it and give a hasty impression.

That's also not including the fact that there's always a rush to be the first guy who has a review out in order to grab the most traffic

V was unfinished

I don't know how people are forgetting this. But it was strangely appropriate for a series that started to ware out its welcome

also all the initial reviews were done at an MGSV ''reviewer's bootcamp event'' and all the faggot journalists who attended were basically huge toolbags who were sucking Konami's dick and forewent all objectivity

>>385753663
They really should have had the prison from Ground Zeroes in it, as that's pretty much the top of the line for stealth gameplay in any game aside from maybe the new Hitman.

>>385753705
>V was unfinished
Not an argument. There are lots of games that are cut on release.

To be fair. The only way to get a review out at release date was signing up for a konami boot camp where you only were allowed to play MGS V for 30 hours (so, you were not able to finish the game) while being supervised by a konami employee who would give you tips and shill the game all the time. No wonder the reviewers were not able to fully judge the game in its entirety. The game was pretty good, until they made you replay all the old missions again with some stipulations, just to get 2 additional missions and kill the MGS story forever.

>>385753915
>Not an argument.

abject faggotry

>>385748924
I refuse to believe /v/ hates this game now because when it came out the board was literally wall to wall threads about it for a fucking month. Fuck off.

>>385748924
Nah, that title goes to pretty much any Bethesda game.

>>385754016
come at me, cocksucker.

MGSV is the only MGS i've ever played and I thought it was amazing desu

>>385754186
good for you, dont even play the other ones, you are not missing anything.

MGSV is one of the best games of this generation.

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>>385749638
>hiding the user's score
Nice try there.

>>385754287
It's one of the worst games in over a decade, only matched by Fallout 4.

>>385754420
try actually playing it instead of bitching about the story

>>385748924
MGS:V is a great game.

>provides lots of freedom for the player to tackle problems
>highly systems-driven with a sandbox of mechanics and rules that give player a lot of room for creativity
>tight handling and controls
>no pesky plot jammed down your throat and interrupt the flow of gameplay
i swear to god you plotfags are the worst thing to happen to videogames since the internet went mainstream.

>>385754573
The gameplay systems are great. The problem is the bland and simplistic base design that is so easy that the creative things you can do feel like a waste of time. The other thing is that there isn't enough variety in the level design. At the very least they could've made more of the shitty outposts you sneak into. At best, they could've had more detailed bases like GZ.

>>385749638
Shitting on ds2 is a bad meme. It wasn't the best but it was a fucking diamond compared to 90% of the rest of the shit on the market.

>>385754876
why didnt nobody moded GZ map into PP yet anyway?

imagine that map with the extra options from PP

>>385754420
>It's one of the worst games in over a decade
Then there's this fucking retard right here.

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you french fuck, stop forcing that MGSV is a bad game

Will they be porting the MGS collection to PS4?

>>385755350
At this point, maybe pachinko if you are lucky.

I just miss when ratings meant something. I remember reading game magazines and if a game got 70% its worth checking out. Hell, if it got 60 it might even be worth renting. Nowadays its like if a game gets less than 85% its shit. Those numbers mean fuck all nowadays because reviewers are genuinely scared of giving bad reviews to shit games.

>>385752579
>Quiet
>Best in the series
Yeah no.

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>>385748924
I thought mass effect 3 was much more revealing to be quite honest. at least there's good things about MGS5

>>385749101
This is the truth. Some of them flat-out admit this.

>>385755686
you mean Mass Effect 2

>>385749101
>No it's the biggest piece of evidence that reviewers only play for a short period of time before reviewing the game.
They only play for a short period of time because that's all they have time for. People expect game reviews to come out in a timely fashion, which means that the time a reviewer has to give to a game is limited by the release date and how long before the release date they get the game. Add to that the fact that there are games coming out constantly, so those are even more games to review.

It wouldn't be a problem if modern games weren't so bloated with unnecessary bullshit filler.

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>>385748924
No. BotW is.
Biggest scum, already forgotten by everyone.

Trash Zelda game in general.

The problem is that they allow anyone to add to the metascore.

Sometimes there are paid reviews by newspapers or magazines that dont know shit about video games. Then you have contrarian blogs who give low scores for the click bait.

The best thing to do is to experience the game for yourself if possible and ignore all reviews.

>>385755979

>thatimage,youknowtheone.jpg

>>385756079
Which one?

>>385751719
I didn't think this until you get later on in the game and what started off as a 10/10 just repeated and dragged and then pulled the exact same mistake as P4 by pulling some bullshit God out of nowhere and making it all his fault.

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Reviewers were never trustworthy.

>>385748924
DmC

The important thing isn't to look at aggregates, but rather look at some gameplay, the best and the worst reviews, and think about the parts that they say are good and bad and whether you will care about them.

>all these faggots talking about MGSV years after release

kojima truly ascended the medium to a art form.

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It was less the score they gave it and more of the shit the reviewers were saying sounded like they were going off on a checklist.

and some were not even subtle like "The New Dante is good, get over the hair"

>>385750656
as someone who has beaten all 3 the ranking is:
MGS5 >> DaS2 (only beat the base game) >>>>> LotF

>>385755571

This.

I remember when a 10 from EDGE actually held some weight. Ever since the previous era they've been handing them more frequently.

Review scores have become a business in itself, and publishers who set up reviews under specific conditions, such as this>>385753998, should be alarming.

>>385748924
No, that's Bioshock Infinite

>>385748924

No, that'd be The Last of Us and I didn't even dislike that game. But holy fucking shit, the critical dicksucking on it was disgusting.

>>385759221
>implying TLOU is ANYWHERE NEAR the worst example of critics going full retard
We get it, you hate Sony

>>385759221
The ladder physics were amazing though

>>385752579
>Quite (one of the best in the series)
That's just flat out wrong. Quite is a simplistic boss in comparison to the rest of the series, and comes out of fucking nowhere.
>skull unit snipers
That was a boss?
>the crazy armored psychic skulls
That was a boss?
>Man On Fire
Bullet sponge
>Sahelanthropus
Would be mediocre if Sahelanthropus had a reason to exist

>>385759459
I've been a rich idort all my life, no bias against any company.

TLoU is a completely forgettable, shallow, mediocre game that is propped up as the single best game on its system, one of the best of the generation, even one of the best of all time. Normies everywhere claim it's their favorite game, but it's such a bland pile of garbage.

>>385759882
>TLoU is a completely forgettable, shallow, mediocre game
I'm sorry you're such a tasteless pleb.

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>>385748924

>>385760149
didn't he give Automata a low score because:
1. He was forced to review it
2. It was taking away his time from FFXV
3. He only got ending A

>>385759971
mediocre predictable story
mediocre bland shooting
mediocre bland stealth
really good multiplayer
great visuals
great sound design and music

There's nothing in the game that wasn't done orders better by other games in the same generation, and nothing in the game that is some revolutionary eye-opening jaw-dropping experience that paints video games in a new light like people worship it for.
They literally just took every popular gameplay and plot conceit from the 2010s and threw it in one game to make the most money possible, it's a soulless cashgrab through and through.

>>385760365
>mediocre predictable story
>mediocre bland shooting
Both wrong.

No, because MGSV is literally a good game.

>>385752925
>It was FUN
For a few minutes, but the actual game is just Peace Walker with more micromanaging and useless shit. And Peace Walker was designed to be played in short bursts. It also wasn't open world, MGS was never meant to be open world, and TPP executed the idea poorly, by having its open world filled with most nothing and actual bases being few and far between.
The gameplay itself is also a downgraded version of 4's gameplay.
You have to actually be autistic to enjoy open world Peace Walker

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No way, this is probably the biggest one.

>>385748924
This is why we need alternative reviewers like DSP who give games accurate scores.

>>385760479
>Zombies
>in 2013
>with an old dad type helping a young girl
>not the most predictable and safe fucking thing you can possibly do
B-BUT THEY'RE FUNGI
B-BUT THE ENDING
if you didn't see the ending coming a mile away you're retarded. Zombies have been old and boring since the pilot of Walking Dead aired, we need to move on from them.

And the shooting is no less a regular normal cover shooter because the game adds fake weapon swaying.
Even if it did make it that much different, it's clearly not the best of the generation or anything like that, and doesn't make up for the crap stealth and boring walking and talking segments.

There's nothing in this game to me that wasn't specifically picked out by a board of directors to maximize profits, I don't see a 'director' behind this game who had a vision, who wanted to make a work of art. It's just a cash-in on the zombie craze with elements handpicked from popular games of the time.

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>>385760365
>really good multiplayer

>>385748924

Dragon Age 2 reviews already were all the evidence I needed.

>>385760818
>I don't see a 'director' behind this game who had a vision, who wanted to make a work of art. It's just a cash-in on the zombie craze with elements handpicked from popular games of the time.
You carried way too much cynicism in with you when you played the game. Part of having good taste and worthwhile opinions is learning how to not do that.

>>385760818
Plus they made the girl look like Ellen Page

>>385749101

It's this. Let's not forget that Konami didn't send early copies of the game for reviews, they had one of those review events where they pay for reviewers to spend one week playing the game in a hotel. No one actually finished the game there, so they only had good things to say.

>>385761051
I shouldn't have to turn the critical part of my brain off to enjoy a game.

Even if I did, the game is just nothing special, I just see this soulless vacuum. I'd rather play a more fun cover shooter or more fun stealth game or more fun zombie game.

>>385760349
>>385760149
nier is a shit game tho, only waifufag weeb degenerates like it

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>>385758740

A year before the first look at gameplay, people already were writing off the game because of Dante's hair, though. This pic is from a day after the reveal tease.

>>385758740
If DMC had been a new Franchise it would have gotten 9s