>that guy who does all of the side content and grinds to level

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>>385738649
To reach the apex of power within the confines of the digital prison of an rpg is a pleasure only few men can grasp, or even have a taste of, let alone understand.

>>385738649

The game doesn't let you go back to the world after beating the final boss and the way the game ends invites you to just "close the book" after it. The game isn't hard in the first place, so it doesn't matter if you're lv 99 anyway

>>385738649
If you're talking specifically about FF7, once you beat the game you can only resume from your last save.

In FFVII, Sephiroth actually becomes stronger the more characters you have at level 99.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Safer%E2%88%99Sephiroth#Battle

autism, obviously

>>385739295
It's still easier than if you go to him straight away

>>385739257
And if you saved past the point of no return, you're fucked

>>385739158
this

you can fucking beat it under level 50 man

>>385739365
You can't use the save crystal past the point of no return, can you?

>>385739158
>>385739367
most of the game is a cakewalk, but ruby and emerald can still fuck you up no matter what level you're at or what strategy you're using.

>>385739803
>or what strategy you're using
wrong

>>385739803
>or what strategy you're using
Wrong. Both are cakewalks with ATB and or materia combination abuse.

>>385738649
>Pierre

>>385738649
>"final" boss
>optional bosses are harder
This always seems kind of retarded to me. There's some big world ending threat and it can be stomped by a random monster that's just chilling around in a dungeon.

>>385738649
>Pierre

>>385740010

Usually the final boss has a grand ambition, while the optional bosses are 'forces of nature' or more interested in being left alone.

>>385738649

>Youfie

> Pierre

Because the ending of the game is called the ending for a reason, so unless there's' post-game content then that feels like a natural ending point.

>>385738649
>Aeris

>>385738649
Because unless there's post game content, the final boss means the end of the game for me.

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>>385738649
>that guy that streamed himself grinding to lvl 99 at the reactor

>>385738649
Because I have never cared about story in any video game.

When all that beating a game does is end it, then why bother when you can go off and do other things to continue playing.

>>385740836

for...what purpose??

>>385740810
Pretty much this. The victory lap in EarthBound is a real nice way to send off a game.

>>385740010
That's actually the part of the charm I liked about Final Fantasy 7.

The entire plot of the story was 100% irrelevant to the outcome of the world, and the progress of their humanity.

It all came down to the planet's lifestream.

Mako energy, materia, weapons, that's all that mattered.

If Meteor did happen like Sephiroth wanted to, the world would defend itself. It would send weapons to defend it (Just like it already did if Cloud didn't intervene) , and the weapons would cleanse the world, and rebuild it.

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>>385740836
I would probably kill myself first.

Is VII or VI the most casual FF ever? They are both ridiculously easy; VI doesn't even have a challenging side-boss. Literally the hardest fight is that fucking thing you fight right before landing on the Floating Continent.

>>385738649
>skip all side content
>main story gets too hard because of lack of level and gear
>full stop on progress to farm random monsters for gold and xp
>complain that game is too grindy

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>side bosses on shin megami tensei games

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>doing every sidequest unlocks the true final boss and true ending

>>385739147
fpbp

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>>385738649

I did this with Gravity Rush 2, and I ended up by chance doing the side quest where you take the old man around town and Kat sings last, which gave a nice bittersweet feel and made the ending even better.

>>385741101
Weren't FF and DQ always pretty casual RPGs?

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>>385741328
>misseable side quests you can't do later

>>385741380
Well, GR2 isn't a RPG where you can overlevel

>>385739365
point of no return isnt until you start going down the floating platforms towards jenova

>>385738649
This is why VIII is the best.

>>385741070
You're wrong though. WEAPON wasn't intelligent enough to recognize Sephirith as the issue, they just roamed around and attacked large enough reactors. His entire plan was to trick Planet into healing itself, and then to steal the Lifeforce it tried to use by sticking himself in the wound. He would then drain the Planet dry with it never realizing what was wrong, gaining godlike powers. If you hadn't stopped him, the Planet was absolutely fucked.

>>385740069
>>385740389
>>385740531
>>385740738

Must be a french version and in the french ff7 Cloud is by default named "Clad"

>>385741994
The text gives that away, no need to know the french default names. But thanks for the trivia

>>385741101
The original VI is also bugged as hell in your favor, even if you don't go out of your way to abuse it.
I'm considering BNW but I keep putting it off for later.

>>385740836
lol how long did that take?

>>385740010
What, you've never heard of Super Bosses?

Not everything is created to make the world end.

>>385741420
>Game keeps track of uncompleteable quests

FFIV DS was the last hard FF

>>385739147
My friend.

>>385743719
Hard FFs are the minority

>>385738649
Because I like to shitstomp my enemies.

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>>385739803
>mfw the second time I fought emeral I got 7777, Cloud went into a berserker fury and raped the boss

>>385738649
i like to min max

>>385740836
Jesus Christ is there a link to that? I want to see how long it took.

>>385738649
Because beating the final boss, as the word implies, should be the very final thing to do.

>>385738649
>Pierre
>(You)fie

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Is there even a single JRPG that doesn't force you to grind to progress through the game?

>>385742893
>>385744567
2452814 exp / 62p per battle = 39562 battles

39562 battles * avg. of 120s per battle, counting loading times and times until next encounter = 4747440 secs

Or, 1318 hours, playing at 8h per day, equals nearly 6 months.

>>385741380
Too bad the ending SUUUUUUUUX

>>385746025
Mario RPGs

>>385746025
Every single one if you aren't a shitter.

>>385739803
ruby, paralyze kotr2x mimic, repeat, dead ruby.
Emerald is even easier.

>>385746025
Bravely Default does an excellent job of it

>>385746798
this

it was harder back in the day when no one knew anything and just tried to fight them legit

now you can do so much BS death combos its not worth your time to ask questions

>>385740836

PLAY TO WIN

>>385739803
>clicking knights of the round is hard
Okay then

>>385748263
getting knights of the round is hard.

>>385739147
this

I always remember the Sephiroth final battle where I whooped his ass with the Knights of the Round Table materia

>>385738649
You are likely not be able to experience Aeris ultimate if you just do it the normal way.

>>385746025
Chrono Trigger

>>385738649
>The optional stuff will still be there later.
But what if it isn't?

>>385746025
You can beat action RPGs like Kingdom Hearts and Tales of on level 1 since you're never forced to take damage.

>>385741994
>in the french ff7 Cloud is by default named "Clad"
What the fuck are you talking about? The PAL version still names him Cloud and last time I checked, France was a PAL country.

>>385738649
nigga have you tried fighting sephiroth w/o 3 ribbons, and with crystal weps and no maxed materia?

>>385746025
Pretty much all of them if you're good at videogames.

>>385746025
I can't think of a JRPG that actually forces you to grind to progress, unless by "grind" you mean "not run away from every battle." Maybe some DQs?

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>>385749429
>8 years old
>Playing PC release which crashed a lot
>Fighting Safer∙Sephiroth and ran from a lot of fights
>Uses super nova, barely survive and gimped with status effects
>Cast Cure3 + All on my party
>They all had reflect on them at the time

>>385746025
Final Fantasy 8
It actually, kinda, punishes you for grinding.

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>>385738649
Reminds me of when I played through Borderlands 2. I spent extra money to buy all the million goddamn DLC packs. During the campaign, whenever I'd see a DLC area, I kept saying to myself, "I'll do that at the end of the game." By the end of the campaign, I had reached level 30, and because everything is capped at level 30, it was pointless to play any of the DLC. I wouldn't have fought any tougher monsters or gotten better weapons. I would have had to start NG+ and play through the whole campaign again to properly play the DLC.
It really pissed me off. Why couldn't they just have a higher level cap so I could have the DLC areas scale to my level?

>>385746279
I'm not sure if you're thinking of the same guy but there was somebody I saw on youtube who did it and he said it took about a year

>>385751168
Oh no that was just a rough estimation, I don't know who did it or how much time that took him.

>>385751168
A year? I'm not surprised. With the Steam version you could probably do it a shit-load quicker if you at least sped up the game. But yeah, fuck that.

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>>385744567
>>385746279
>>385742893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqQo8r-_UQ

>>385752212
And this, /v/, is actually what autism is, let's use the word properly from now on..

The final boss is trivial at level 30 something.

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I did it for Crisis Core because i wanted the last battle to be as long as possible.

>>385752212
>i would start again tomorrow

>>385752212
Jesus. I thought he was gonna burst into tears when he hit circle, his voice was quaking so much

>>385752513
>dedication
>autism
No its not

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>>385752212
Why?

For what purpose?

Why would anyone waste such a long time of their lives doing it just to prove a point? Everyone knows it can be done, and everyone except these two also know it really shouldn't be done.

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>start grinding for the sidequests and optional bosses
>realize that im playing on an emulator and there arent any achievements to get so whats the point
>never do any optional content again and just finish the main story
Steam ruined me.

>>385746025
Most of the good ones starting from SNES generation. They are generally paced well enough that if you finish majority of the fights rather than running away, you'll be at intended level for each section.

>>385753252
>Everyone knows it can be done
>people run 10000 of miles
>who cares
>someone spends time with a game
>LMAO WHY THGOUUUGHHH
Stop being retarded.

>>385754173
Running "10000" miles would mean you got yourself into great shape just to do it.

Spending all that time grinding in an MMO would mean you got great gear from it, probably got pretty good at the game, and gained some recognition from the people on your server.

Grinding to level 99 in the first reactor of FF7 just means you spent +500 hours doing something you don't enjoy doing just to prove a retarded point. There was no skill involved. You learned nothing. You gained nothing.

>>385754559
>its only worth anything when you get fit
Fuck off.
>Grinding to level 99 in the first reactor of FF7 just means you spent +500 hours doing something you don't enjoy doing just to prove a retarded point.
He did enjoy it. You fucktard.

>>385738649
Because completing the final boss usually kills my interest in the game. I know that it really shouldn't matter, but once the main story is done, games just usually feel "finished" and it's hard to find any motivation to complete any sidequest and other stuff, it feels like it doesn't matter anymore. Obviously, games with actual postgame content are exempt from this.

>>385754782
Yeah I bet literally sitting there for hundreds of hours, drool dripping out from the corner of your mouth as you stare into nothingness, your finger rhythmically tapping circle, is a fuckton of fun.

>>385740010
It's game design. If you make your final boss into some extreme near insurmountable challenge, then you will alienate or piss off people who are playing the game casually.

With optional bosses you can make them as ball bustingly bullshit as you want. For lore purposes, you can just make them some kind of some kind of ancient creature o yore.
The final boss of an RPG doesn't have to literally be the strongest thing to ever exist.

>>385754782
>He did enjoy it. You fucktard.
Doubt it.

>>385756198
>Doubt it

Kek

>>385756390
>>385756198
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>>385756561
Kek

>>385741068
>victory lap
>Grandia 2
>Beat the final boss
>final sequence of the game is Roan going around the world visiting all the places you saved and checking in on your party members and what they're doing with their lives now