What games let me blow my brains out after spending 30K ($30,000)

If you really did spend that much that means you can afford a lawyer for a class action, at this point this is obviously a scam

>It's a "I've never played the game but I'm gonna shit on it anyway because I have nothing going on in my life worthwhile" episode

No thanks.

>>385734964
oh shit the cultists are here

>>385734821
>scam
Niggah the game's coming out. God fucking knows when but it's not a scam and if it is, it's the most expensive, overly complicated scam ever.

>>385734821
>spending 30K ($30,000)

Gonna need proofs, bucko.

>>385734964
Found the cultist.

>>385735036
It is perfectly reasonable they push back the dates beacuse they have already made them too aggressive in the first place. Games of this scale need lot of testing and it is understandable they are not able to work any faster if the deadline is 100 years from now or 1000 years. You see the difference? Just buy more ships to guarantee the development and everything will be fine. I'm sure there's going to be a ship sale soon as well.

>>385735076
With 10% of the planned content. Also, they've been purposely deceptive for years in order to keep the cash coming. It didn't start that way, but it's a scam.

>>385735160
It's hardly ever one person spending thousands. It's usually a group of players who want to form guild aka corporations in the game who buy the package to have every ship in game

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>>385735219
>Just buy more ships to guarantee the development and everything will be fine.

>>385735387
ah,like that eve corp

>>385734964
>>385735209
I spent $50 and have put in more hours than I have into half my steam library. Once 3.0 comes out next month, I'll put in more hours without paying any more money. When the next patch comes out, I'll put in more hours, without spending more money. I'm not going to drop a bunch of cash on imaginary ships. I'm just going to use the one I have and play when I'm in the mood, or new content is dropped. I'm never going to be the guy buying "concepts" or paying hard cash for virtual spaceships.

>>385735341
>10%
???

>>385735481
Joking aside. I think they are doing money laundering or something else with all the money. Why would there be Chris Robert's wife and brother in lead of the company otherwise? Smells really fishy.

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>>385735601
Literal fact.

>>385735494
Yeah. Groups of people pool their money together and spend it on ship packages for their future corp/guild

>>385735628
Are you 12?

>>385735387
At least two dudes spent 30K. They had to make two accounts to do so.

>>385735739
Are you?

>>385735710
You think 3.0 is the release version?

Star Shitizen
Shart Citizen

>>385735739
Oh look, it's the defense force again. You are running out of excuses. You should go to /reddit/ and devise some more cultist reasoning. Oh btw please by the new ship.jpg while you are at it.

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>>385735710
>using graphics straight from Derek Smart's forum
top nig

>>385735628
Because his brother has the credentials and his wife is in charge of the barely existing marketing?

>>385735790
Why'd they have to make 2 accounts to spend 30 grand each?

>>385735968
Oh look, it's the goon force again. You are running out of excuses. You should go to SA and devise some more cultist reasoning. Oh btw please by the new LOD while you are at it.

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Star Citizen isn't a sca-

>>385736020
>that whole post
So basically we will keep adding features to keep the money coming? At this point it's more profitable for them to stay forever in development than to release the game.

>>385736165
I'm disgusted that you're on my /v/.

>>385735571
>Imagining wasting this much of my life in a futile attempt to convince myself I didn't fall for an obvious scam

>>385736356
go back to your shitty forums

>>385736438
>playing a video game is wasting time
I suppose you're right.

>>385735816
Read what you wrote. It's like you've watched too much Breaking Bad and are out of touch with reality.

>>385736050
You're fucking retarded. What do you think those ship commercials are? Yeah, moron. Marketing.

>>385736546
Go back to >Reddit.

>>385735710

i hate to defenes force but with the scope of the game expanding as much as it is, it would simply be impossible to have hundreds of systems all on launch without rushing them or cutting corners. I'm fine with starting out with 5-10 solid, full systems instead of a bunch of empty shitty ones then adding more over time.

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>>385735219
>Just buy more ships to guarantee the development and everything will be fine. I'm sure there's going to be a ship sale soon as well


Low enegry bait, 4/10 for trying

They had big dreams and a big budget(?), but they underestimated how much work and how long it would take.

>>385736739
He was making a joke. How dumb are you?

>>385736751
It's almost like publishers exist for a reason, eh? Spooky.

>>385736823
what is a joke but not a bait on this forum also fuck off /v/irgin :^)

>>385736578
And did you see them on TV,billboards or as ads?No

>>385736937
I don't think your allowed to market something (a ham) that essentially doesn't exist. You wouldn't see any kick starter or crowd funding good being advertised like that

>>385736578
>What do you think those ship commercials are?

they are ingame lorebuilding. if you played the game you'd notice those videos get played on billboards ingame, almost like they're trying to make an immersive world or something.

>>385736937
Nobody is this stupid. Nice try.

Star Citizen shouldn't be called vapourware but glamourware. It is being constantly embellished and advertised but the developers don't seem to be able to release anything which resembles a playable game.

>>385737174
>Mental gymnastics.

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>yfw you thought to buy this, but your brain warned you about the possibility of a scam

>>385737252
3.0 was supposed to drop at the end of 2016.

>>385737143
>a ham
>>>/ck/

>>385737360
Item System 2.0 has taken all priority. Chris has been debugging the item system for 8 months straight now. Too bad there's not any game present where you could use it.

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>>385735219
I guess its too big to fail right?

>>385737298
>someone gives me an explaination when i have no desire to partake in an actual discussion, so i'll just say its mental gymnastics

>>385737509
So we created this ship asset library and item management system. We also have huge amount of trailers but not a single working environment which could be called as a game. Something is missing here. There is something really missing..

>>385737482
Ain't autocorrect a bitch?

>>385737654
Get a better keyboard app

>>385737742
I'm on ipad

>>385737512
Care to explain your cryptic post, /his/? We play video games, not books.

>>385737821
>He buys Apple products.

>>385737742
>>385737821
>>385737654
Phoneposters and Chris, you both deserve each other.

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>>385734821
Post YFW Scam Citizen spends so much time in development that the largest backers die before they get to play the full version

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>>385737867
>>385737901

>>385737298
The only place those videos show up is on CIG's youtube page and in game. If you think that's advertising, you're an idiot.

>>385737143
>what are movie trailers made 2-3 years before the movie's release?

>>385737901
nothing wrong smartphones

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>>385737143

>>385738060
Not if you like shit like you seem to do. You are posting on forum from a fucking phone. Your literal output and effort in discussion is worth nothing. Goes well with your IQ though, you should probably just browse dailymail.co.uk on your phone and call it a day.

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>>385737832
There was this thing called the south sea trading company- people bought into the hype and bought lots of stocks for it, despite the fact that they never actually did any trading. Buying stocks increased the company's value creating a positive feedback loop where dividends could only be payed out if people were constantly buying the companies stocks since the company it didn't actually make money any other way. Even the monarchy invested in it heavily before the bubble burst.

>>385738271
i'm on pc you projecting faggot

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>>385738048
Do they get people to spend thousands on ships?

>>385736201
>Xenomorphs on wrecks

Game over man, game over...

>>385738437
Nice. I like that edit.

>>385734821
Russian roulette

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>>385737982
Fucking kek, I wouldn't doubt some of the backers could've died in accidents or something by now.

I hope a spaceship game comes out first than it and blow out the retards that keep believing in it

>>385738483
You might as well as be braindead. Low effort, low energy posting. You don't contribute anything valuable to this imageboard.

>>385738898
I contribute jizz to your daily caloric intake faggot

>>385738507
Not to my knowledge. That comes from things like Around the Verse, where you actually see footage of ships in progress, or blog posts.

>>385738437
I read about it some years ago but could only remember the name.
What happened to the con men in the end?

>>385739057
I don't understand your sentence. You fantasize cumming into other male's mouth and yet call others homosexual? I think you should go to bed as you have school to attend tomorrow. I'm pretty sure you need to be at least 18 years old in order to post here.

>>385739385
>i dont understand
Big surprise coming from a dumb ass that hasn't contributed anything but projection

>>385739381
Golden parachute for the people in government taking bribes to look the other way, along with political fallout. The owner of the company fled the country and left a letter detailing how much stress dealing with the finical collapse of Britian was causing him and to feel free to help themselves to what money was left in his study.

>>385739760
So, how much did he leave behind?
>inb4 it was three fiddy.

>>385739752
You were fantasizing about ejaculating into grown men's mouths. But I guess even that has more content than Star Citizen ever will.

>>385740095
You are such a fucking virgin. You don't have a phone 'cause you're a massive fucking loser. Having a smartphone doesn't change the quality of your posts. I'm living fucking proof of that. Kill yourself.

>>385740095
You fantasize about the daily consumption of underage male sperm,but that's just part of the life for a platform tribalist

>>385740043
Three POUNDS GOV'NAH

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>>385736868
Publishers do not exist as a quality control measure. They exist to fund and distribute games, and occasionally you get some semblance of quality control but it's still a roll of the dice.

I'm not saying you should back SC. I would say at the absolute earliest, don't give them money until they deliver episode 1 of Squadron 42. If you want a space game right now, play Elite Dangerous because it's a fine game and it's what I'd consider feature complete at this point.

The shitposting about SC on /v/ has gone pretty overboard though because of people who want the next TORtanic and don't know anything about game development. These are the same people who say shit like "Cities Skylines is bad because it runs on Unity Engine" and other stuff like that which only make sense for people who don't know anything about how games are made.

>>385734964
>It's a "I've never played the game" episode

So even backers are allowed to post?

>>385740651
It's not shitposting when the game's a fucking disaster. We still haven't seen Squadron 42 gameplay. Yet they sell more shit all the time. Delays happen, but they've been deceptive. Do your fucking research.

>>385740582
In that times money, was that much?
Like, could you get yourself a house with that money or was it about enough to get yourself lodged and fed for a month?

>>385740947
SC is one of the most transparent game development projects of all time. They put out video updates every week and you can go to there website to see which employees are working on what, who they've hired and let go, etc. Name me one other AAA developer that lets you see that level of detail on their game's development.

>>385738437
Sounds exactly like Bernie Madoff's fund. He says he had intention for it to be a real investment fund in the future once he could get enough capital, but he just never stopped the forgery scheme.

>>385741103
They hid the engine change for a long ass time, you stupid cuck.

>>385741030
It was a joke I doubt he had any money in his desk. He left the government high and dry. Its a pretty amazing story though, and probably the first 'bubble'. Worth looking into.

>>385740947
>We still haven't seen Squadron 42 gameplay

Probably because they're still making the tools to make S42. That shit ain't coming out for years.

>>385741259
>engine change

you do realize lumberyard is just cryengine, right?

>>385741431
So why hide that shit? It's almost like you have no argument.

>>385737867
>he

>>385740651
>The shitposting about SC on /v/ has gone pretty overboard though because of people who want the next TORtanic and don't know anything about game development

You dont need to know much about game development to know that what SC has promised in the beginning was already a very ambitious project. They met the goal and then they kept on going because of reasons and started adding a fuckton of things they never could have realistically achieved in a normal timeframe. So instead of stoping the madness machine, they kept on shilling money, adding more stuff, delaying more, and so on.

Seriously. Anyone with half a brain can tell that at this point the game cannot be what the people expected it to be. Elite at least released a half empty game that is being expanded and is in a somewhat playable state right now. SC will be in development hell for so long, the engine will be outdated by the time they will be ready to launch Squadron 42.

And yes, I backed the game on kickstarter. And yes I wish it would just die, I dont expect to see anything for my money at this point.

>>385742186
How much did you spend? You can get a refund. It just takes work. Also, the graphics are already starting to look dated.

CIG has shown a hell of a lot more than other kikestarter trash desu

Odds are it will come out, be a hit for a couple months, and then slowly fade when new players realize they can't compete in a universe filled with freely replaceable capital ships.

>>385742403
There'll be a crazy amount of disappointment and drama.

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>>385742386
The bare minimum to get the digital game and access to Alpha/Beta. Estimated delivery makes me smile every time.

>tfw you didn't by into the scam
>tfw you haven't been indoctrinated into the cult
>tfw you are actually playing games while star shitter will forever wait for their """game""" to arrive (never)

>>385734821
Why is /v/ so salty and butthurt about this game? Did you retards blew all your savings on it?

>>385742748
Nice. At least you didn't go balls deep.

>>385734821
I don't care who you are, spending any sort of money on a game that takes 10 years to make is an idiot

>>385742905
>He doesn't like watching shit crash and burn.

I pity you, nigger.

I don't understand how people can call this a scam. With how much money they have blown over the years on the project it can't be profitable. What could they possibly pocket? What is there to gain out of such a failure if a project? Can it even be considered a scam if zero people benefit from it?

You can call them retarded devs who can't make a game for shit but a scam? No

>>385740480
Look at here, IQ 65 at max. Do you want fries with that?

>>385740562
Your post doesn't make any sense.

>>385743061
When you buy a 15,000$ coffee maker it feels like a scam.

>>385742960
>crash and burn.

but it not fag

>>385742186
The three major changes that happened were changing the nature of how multiplayer works (it was originally going to be instance based but now it is more like an MMO due to changes made to the engine) and also planets are now rendered full-scale in realtime due to another major breakthrough with the engine. The third major change was that the ship fuselages are now modular, which means a lot more variety. All of these changes meant major delays because they are fairly fundamental to the game's workflow, but it was better to push the game back rather than trying to introduce the changes after a feature-complete version was already out and even more content had to be retrofitted into these new systems.

MMOs are big projects. WoW took almost 10 years to develop and SC is still far away from that. I am optimistic that we might see public beta for the Persistent Universe start in 2019 but I understand that the game is much bigger now than it was when the Kickstarter ended.

Years ago they polled the fans if they should stop soliciting funds and finish the game as pitched in the kickstarter, or keep accepting more and make the game bigger, even if it meant pushing it back. The fans voted for the latter by an overwhelming majority. They knew what they were getting into and were willing to accept the delays that came with it. If you were in the section of the fandom that just wanted the game in its original form that kind of sucks, but it's still going to be a fascinating experiment to see if a AAA game can be crowd funded or not.

>>385743364
Just wait for the lawsuits. Especially if they come from EU. EU would definitely be on the side of the consumers.

>>385742403
big corporations will ruin the fun by hogging all 'limited' the capital ships to themselves. I just want to be a space pirate and one day save enough to buy a javelin, i just want to pilot one

>>385743587
>10 years
Consider it version 1.0 by 2024. Some backers will be dead by then.

>>385743664
Lolno.
Enjoy being a NPC to entertain the whales

>>385743664
You will get shit on by space whales and you will like it.

>>385742960
When did Star Citizen crash and burn? Development is slow but that's not unusual for a game of this scale. Updates are periodically released. Since they don't have jew execs breathing down their neck and rushing them to deadlines, they're taking their sweet time with developing this game. Don't know about you, but I'd rather wait longer to play a good game than wait less to play a rushed turd.

I get wanting to see someone you dislike "crash and burn", but don't understand why mustards would want to see the most ambitious and interesting PC game project on horizon to fail. These threads just seem like circlejerks of salty console shitters.

>>385743350
I'm pretty sure hiring and sustaining all the business cost with around 400 employees is really helping this scam out. They're pocketing every bit of it and the game isn't even being worked on. Don't get me wrong, they've missed all their time frames and have been doing a poor job when it comes to making content at a decent pace but that doesn't make it a scam, they're just a shitty studio.

As for the coffee maker I agree the cost is really excessive but most business class shit like that tend to be a bit on the expensive side anyways. Durable, made to last, made to serve hundreds of employees. I still don't understand why it's not sub 5 grand though, shit is pretty ridiculous. You'd be fucking crazy to try and outfit your employee break room with a 5 dollar coffee maker.

>>385743919
>Durable, made to last
I have a old Moka that i bought for the equivalent of 40€ back in 1992, i have been using it every single day since then for my morning coffee (ACTUAL cofee, not stained water) and it's still working perfectly.
You don't need to blow 15k for a fucking american shitwater maker

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>>385743727
I am not saying SC will be in development for 10 years. I think that realistically, the 1.0 "retail" release will be out by 2020, but I think the beta will probably be in 2019.

My more optimistic hope is that the game will go gold in 2019 with both Squadron 42 and the public beta premiering in 2018, but the more realist part of me thinks we will only get Squadron 42 in 2018.

SC is such a weird project because money is clearly not a problem. Time is a problem, because the delays are causing PR problems. They need a finished game so that the people who are on the fence can buy it with the full confidence that when they start it up they'll be playing a feature-complete product, and not an early access title.

I think the real hate for SC comes from the fact that even though it didn't start the early-access fad, it was one of the key contributors. Minecraft really started early access, but Minecraft was an immediately enjoyable experience when it was still in alpha. SC was a kickstarter game but has morphed into an early access game over time, and it inspired the early access system on Steam which lead to a bunch of disasters like the Day Z standalone game.

>>385734821
No More Room in Hell

There is even an achievement for suicide

>>385743909
It seems like a joke to me. Selling a fleet of digital ships for 15K with lifetime insurance is not cool. Not if you're claiming your game isn't P2W. The fans are also fucking retarded. They want to protect their investment by making it extremely difficult for fresh players to get even one of those ships. Also, the game looks and runs like shit. Infinite Warfare looks better and runs at more than thirty frames.

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>there are people who spent money on this non-game meme scam in hopes of flying a shitty shape in space
Post yfw you never shilled or paid money for star scamizen

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>>385734821
POST YFW YOU DIDN'T FALL FOR THE SCAM CITIZEN MEME

>>385744209
Like I said I do think it's super excessive. You can have really good luck with cheaper products and I'm glad it's working out for you but you do also run into shitty products more often than not on the cheaper end. Perhaps durability isn't the best point to bring up though, I'm sure an expensive machine may not break down as often but probably have pretty expensive maintenance. You still run into the problem of having a machine that can service hundreds of people per day quickly.

Honestly I think they would have been pretty good with two or three high end Kuerigs it'd be under 1-2 grand easy and k-cups are quick.

>>385743587
>The three major changes that happened
And I can almost guarantee that almost all of these changes were made ad-hoc without much background knowledge in regards of how realistically achievable they are. Yes. Those changes are cool, but the fact that they made the changes and still missed every single deadline means that they had no idea what they themselves are getting into.

>MMOs are big projects
Sure, I get it. But that is exactly why I think they should have focused on Squadron 42 to get the backbone of the game in place, make sure everything is working in a small, linear experience, and then expand it to the fuckhuge open world MMO they want it to be.

>Years ago they polled the fans
And years ago it was already years ago behind schedule. Yes I am in the second category, but at this point I dont really care. It just makes me sad that they got over 155 million dollars and they are still having the same issues delays, shrinking the game from what was promised even though they have more money, etc.

>>385744473
Red pill me?

>>385744759
Dude, stop. These posts kill discussion. It's just spam.

>>385743919
Why not just buy 50 coffee makers? Your doing some mental gymnastics to justify buying that much of an expensive coffee maker. Even more so since 50 x 50 is only 2,500USD. Stuff like that and what they're doing with their money makes it feel like a scam, and I backed it.

>>385744818
The fact that they picked CRYENGINE instead of building their own proves that they have no fucking clue what they're doing.

>>385744897
Because cultposting is soo much better, right?

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>anon's using the "post yfw scamcitizen"every thread to farm (you)s

>>385745115
Yeah

>>385745115
I'd rather discuss how dumb the developer is. That shit's just annoying.

>>385745115
It is, but so is legitimate criticism. Setting up a (you) farm isn't contributing anything. You're simply stroking your own dick and you have a pretty nice dick.

>>385734964
Chris pls

>>385745376
How do you know my name...?

>>385744848
if you are infected, do your team a favor and blow your brains out.
Basic zombie apocalypse logic

>>385744818
>Sure, I get it. But that is exactly why I think they should have focused on Squadron 42 to get the backbone of the game in place, make sure everything is working in a small, linear experience, and then expand it to the fuckhuge open world MMO they want it to be.

This is one of those things that only people who don't know much about game development would say. Squadron 42 is a very linear experience and the only online infrastructure required will be for the 4 player drop-in-drop-out co-op. It's easy to make a game like that when your massive MMO-universe with solar-system-sized play areas are already mapped out, but if you were trying to build an MMO on top of the framework of a linear mission based game, it would end up stretching the development even further.

Instead of a development cycle that takes 6-8 years with people of people asking "where's Squadron 42 and the PU?", with S42 being released in the final years and the PU a year afterwards, you'd have gotten Squadron 42 released maybe 2 years ago but the PU would be no-where to be seen. As someone who is in many ways more interested in S42 than the PU I probably would have been satisfied, but a massive portion of the playerbase wanted the game for the MMO component. If they just rushed out S42 to get it out in 2014 but had absolutely nothing to show for the open universe part of the game (which would be much further behind in development right now), then they would have an even bigger PR mess on their hands than they currently do.

The situation SC is in right now isn't ideal-- the ideal situation would be to just have a fat stack of cash with no announcement, work on the game for several years behind the scenes, and then announce it when it's only a year away from being feature-complete. That's not the hand they've been dealt, but they are still beholden to the creative process it takes to produce a game which is rarely a straight path.

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>>385734964
>game
what game?

>>385745927
my butthole lol!

>>385745661
Explain to me why they chose CRYENGINE instead of building their own. Is Chris Roberts lazy or fucking retarded?

>>385746141
It's a scam. Using a existent engine allows to more quickly produce .jpg images and "in engine" """""gameplay""""" videos to reel in more idiots into the cult.

>>385746561
That's my big grudge. Why the fuck would they chose CRYENGINE? That makes no fucking sense.

>>385746141
You need to consider the circumstances under which SC started. Chris Roberts was tinkering with Cry Engine on his own time and was able to create a 6DOF flight model using by-wire controls and accurate thrust and weight physics, which is where the project really began. After that he got in touch with investors who agreed to pledge $10 million if he could raise $2 million in crowd funding. None of that would have happened if it was not for middleware, and the project wouldn't exist. It's not like Chris Roberts was sitting on $150 million, or even the original $12-14 million right at the start, and had to choose whether to make his own engine or use middleware.

It doesn't really make sense to make your own game engine in the modern market either. That was the death of Metal Gear Solid 4. Hideo Kojima spent 5 years designing the Fox engine and didn't have any time to make the actual game he was supposed to create, which is why Konami became so infuriated with him.

There are entire companies whose main focus is making middleware software, like Crytek, Epic, and Unity (who are so focused on engine support that they don't make games). CIG has an arrangement where they've been able to work with Crytek directly to make changes they needed to the engine.

Even in the case of Elite Dangerous they didn't make a new engine for it. Frontier used the same engine as Zoo Tycoon and made modifications to it. Unlike Frontier though, Cloud Imperium is a new studio and didn't have any in-house software when they started up.

>>385746954
Makes pretty graffix
Pretty graffix makes pretty .jpeg ships
Pretty .jpeg ships make lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>385747037
Pretty graffix convinces investors

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>>385746561
A real scam would be to go to Kickstarter with mockup screenshots with the promise of "if you give me several million dollars I will figure out how to make this work."

It was either use middle-ware and build an in-engine prototype, or go to Kickstarter with nothing but concept art and empty promises. Of these two approaches, which has a better track record?

>>385747271
The latter.
Chris Roberts is just a idiot that can't even scam correctly for maximum sheckels

>>385746141
- A number of engines were prototyped including Unreal, CryEngine came out with the fastest prototypes
- CryEngine has little to no middleware
- Because of this, and them licensing the entire thing, they can change anything they want
- They liked the rendering aspect
- At this point most of the engine has changed save for the rendering part, which they simply built upon
- They have most of the CryEngine developers in Frankfurt because Crytek doesn't pay their customers

Incidentally, one big reason why CryEngine was initially picked was because it was pitched by someone who knew how to work it very well, Sean Tracy and a bunch of others made the original prototype. He and his brother made Mechwarrior Living Legends which does many, many things Star Citizen was also supposed to do such as localised damaged, modular vehicles, space flight, low gravity, whatever the fuck.

>>385746670
You're so full of shit. The SC-branded peripherals weren't announced until years after the kickstarter ended.

>>385747354
>customers
Fuck, I meant employees.

>>385735571
>Once 3.0 comes out next month
>He doesn't know about the delay
lmao

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>>385747347
>The latter.

You have any evidence to back that up?

>>385747373
Yeah, I just remember it, I guess is time to get to sleep.

>>385746972
It's almost always better to use existing engine than to create everything from scratch unless you are John Carmack. Big projects need so much tools and support that they could literally spend 5-10 years building the environment and other shit just like Kojimbo did with Phantom Pain. I'm not sure if Cryengine is good for this kind of game though but anyway.

But for now it's obvious Chris doesn't have clue how to run big projects. Running big show is like running a military operation. It should be concise and precise especially now after they have reached certain critical points. There is always research and dev phase where you think about different options and do tests and all this but now when the big project is supposed to be in production it means they should be steadily make progress and not lie about deadlines and most certainly not push them back. This keeps happening all the time, there is something very deeply fucked up behind the scenes. There is no other way explaining what they are doing.

>>385738581

I wanted to post that :'(

>>385735571
Is that the joke? 3.0 has been comming soon for months.

Im still mad i bought that steaming pile of piss called elite dangerous. Ive just given up hope that any good space gamea are comming in my lifetime.

>>385734964
no one has played the game that is why everyone is mad at star citizen cultist

>>385737252
Glamourware. I like it.

>>385740651
Elite dangerous korean grindfest is a shitty game and youre a shitty person for even suggesting it.

>>385734821
I spent my kid's college fund on this game. I fucked up their future.

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>>385734821
>Have a friend who bought a few hundred dollars worth of ships
>Shills this game almost daily on his facebook
>Gets mad every time I point out it's never going to be finished

>This fucking idiot also hyped up NMS and pretended it didn't exist after it came out

His posts make my blood boil, but I can't defriend him since I want to see his reaction once Star Citizen bombs.

>>385736221
this is why you don't support a game unless it is officially released.

>>385747475
>not being part of the PTU
o I'm laffin

>>385745927
>>385748890
Except there is plenty of gameplay, between Arena Commander, Star Marine, and the current version of the PU.

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Post your face when you never fell for a kickscammer

>>385749516
You shitpost but there probably is at least one person out there who spent the life savings/college funds to get the top tier stuff.

>>385736020
>SAF is Derek's forum
lol

>>385749935
>arena commander
terrible space combat
>star marine
shitty cod/battlefield fps
>persistent universe
they should be reported for even using the word universe. they don't even have a full space system in their game kek

Why would you spend 30,000 dollars on virtual space ships and then complain that it's a scam?

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>>385750360
>I don't like it so it doesn't exist

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I bought the game a while ago.

>i5-6400 Skylake
>8GB DDR4
>GTX 950
>couldn't get more than 10 FPS while flying

I know my rig is average at best but wtf
I got a refund the same day

>>385749745
>some guy who would come into our teamspeak to play games with us fell for the star citizen scientology schtick
>basically shilled it to the guys on our teamspeak for weeks
>every time i would call him out on shit and how unplausible everything sounded
>eventually he stopped coming on to our ts
maybe he sold his house and computer to buy ships in star citizen.

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>>385750692
even the devs on their state of the art dev rigs barely scrape 30 fps dude. a fraps framerate watermark made it into one of their trailers and it was like 27fps.

kind of embarrassing really. who is this game for? whose computer is this game for? it's like they are making a game for a rig that doesn't even exist yet, unless IBM owns it.

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lol you guys are all gonna eat it when it launches and gets only 10/10
I'm not just buying ships, I'm a part of gaming history

>>385750692
It's not your PC, or the game, it's their servers. It's easy to get 60fps in AC or SM, but the PU has shit servers that fluctuate based on the number of people online.

>>385750913
That wasn't one of their trailers. It was made by PC Gamer, and it's THEIR fps you're seeing.

>>385751234
I'll participate in 2024 when it comes out. Till then I'm gonna keep mocking you.

>>385751461
ah yes pc gamer. famous for their shit tier reviewing rigs, right?

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Sometimes I think, yeah it'd be cool if I bought this big ass mining ship for 100's of dollars. Then I start imaging mining with a crew and hiring fighter pilots to help protect my ship against pirates. Maybe I could even get my girlfriend to play the game with me and she'd help navigate the ship. Then I remember this game doesn't exist and neither does this ship.

>>385751549
What do you want me to say? There are no FRAPS fps counters in any footage from official star citizen accounts, but it's in the PC Gamer trailer.

>>385751461
Nah it's all AtV clips so it's CIG footage. But that's besides the point because you don't optimise until you're done with the graphics pipeline.

CIG has pretty strict budgeting in place for assets though, and they do some easy optimisations where Frankfurt finds them which is enough to get it running for alpha status. I personally don't dip below 60 in AC.

>>385751553
That's the danger of an unfinished game. It fills your mind with possibilities.
I bet they don't even know how they'll do mining yet, especially make it __fun__.

>>385734821
No you didn't you lying faggot.

>>385751793
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14522-Design-Notes-Mining

>>385751861
He's asking what games let him.

The Joke
(You)

I'll enjoy the game when it's out. Meanwhile I just watch. Does that make me a bad person?

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>>385751876
mind linking to the design notes for this? just curious

>>385752184
Those were posted here >>385736020

>>385734964
take a pic of your hand holding "the game" and post it
ill wait

>>385751876
>Beam Operator
Possibly the most fun of all the mining jobs and still looks like crap. Where is the f u n?

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>There are people who have spent more money on digital fucking ships than I will ever earn in my entire working life

>>385752352
take a picture of you holding your steam library

>>385752370
Name some games that extend beyond holding/toggling a button to mine.

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>>385734821
Reminder that the original date for the FULL RELEASE was q4 2015

>tfw you got jewed hard

>>385752525
I don't even have to mention a console game, Galaxy on Fire 2 on Iphone/Android

>>385752525
Digging for your mom's pussy beneath all that fat

>>385752503
This

>>385752735
This is how you can tell most here are just looking for anything to discredit the game with the pretence of discussing it. I mean I already knew that, but pretty pathetic nonetheless.

I can understand people being skeptical about this game being made and released as promised.
What I don't get is why people look for every tiny thing that didn't happen as promised, sometimes even make up blatant lies and shit on everyone who is looking forward to it.

>>385752881
my post came first, and I gave you a genuine example.

Sc cultists are really huge idiots. Let me explain why this is a scam.

This is not a direct scam you stupid idiots. Have you seen the movie The Producers? It's kinda like that. Only the top brass knows it is a scam and the low totem poles think they are doing a job and not questioning anything(except some are) BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING PAID WELL and have good working environment when CHRIS ROBBERS GIVES YOU $10k COFFEE MACHINES just to name one.

This is a LONG CON. Chris ROBBERS IS THE CEO, PAID AS THE CEO, WIFE IS PAID SOME SHIT AND SOME OF HIS FRIENDS ARE ALSO GETTING PAID FOR SOME TOKEN POSITION and on top of it all, THEY ARE GETTING DIVIDENDS BECAUSE THEY ARE FREAKING SHAREHOLDERS OF A COMPANY WITH NO PRODUCT. ITS THE REASON WHY IT IS TAKING TOO LONG AND WHY THE FEATURE CREEP. MAKE THE PRODUCTION TIME LONGER, MORE MONEY FOR CHRIS ROBBERS.

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>>385752941
>What I don't get is why people look for every tiny thing that didn't happen as promised, sometimes even make up blatant lies and shit on everyone who is looking forward to it.
where do you think you are?

if you're looking for a hugbox echo chamber piss off back to the sc forums

>>385753016
I looked at it and it's literally holding a button but you're forced to also wiggle movement keys for no particular reason. If that somehow constitutes more fun than needing to carefully mine around hazardous materials that might blow up in your face then I can safely disregard your opinion.

>>385752589
Thank goodness the jew only took 40$.

>>385752670
>Galaxy on Fire 2
But the only thing you do there is keep a cursor from moving outside a circle, how is that any better?

>>385752881
as pathetic as your mom's vagina AMIRITE GUYS

>>385752941
>What I don't get is why people look for every tiny thing that didn't happen as promised
do you know who roberts is? he previously worked on a space game that he hyped up to be this amazing revolutionary masterpiece that was so deep and amazing it would blow everyone away. then after it kept going overtime and over budget they ran out of resources and got bailed out by another company and it turns out they had very little actually done for all that time and money, so they just released it as it was not wanting to waste any more time and money.

>>385753424
>space game that he hyped up to be this amazing revolutionary masterpiece
which one?

>>385753279
you can't just judge it by looking at it, all the youtube videos don't show good miners, so they don't show the entire process. The game pushes cursor outside the circle, so you have to push against it. In the mean time the circles slowly collapse and get smaller as you continue mining. You also have to be mindful of what drill your using because you could mess up like a lot of the people are doing in the youtube videos.

>>385753382
he wanted an example that's not press X to mine and I gave him one. I'm just saying, the whole "Give me an example to prove my point" thing pisses me off, because once you do give an example the goal post changes.

>>385753496
freelancer

which microsoft had to step in to actually finish and release

>>385753758
I guess you could say he wanted to do more but couldn't because of money problems.

Call me naive but I'm optimistic that this game will come out at some point and it'll be great.
Actually, what would be happening in /v/ if/when that happens?

>Kickstarted in 2012
Jesus Christ it's been that long, nearly 5 goddamned years. A textbook example of feature creep

>>385734964
not him but its more like
>ive never played it because its never going to be released

>>385754334
Tell that Squareenix

>>385754334
5 years isn't that much for a game though

>>385738437
so a ponzi scheme

>>385754529
It sort of is, but less so if you also need to build a company and hire people first. They started with just a handful.

>>385744759
reddit pls go

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there are "AAA" console games that are more barebones and broken than star citizen, yet still sell by the millions for $60, and they dont even promise to become anything more

and then these kids see star citizen and shit their pants and realize they've wasted all their money on consoleshit and make these threads

>>385754529
it is when the dev promised it was already in development and it would be playable in less than 2 years after the kickstarter

>>385754691
>they dont even promise to become anything more
i can promise i'll give you a million dollars tomorrow

will you fund my game now?

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>>385734821
Provide your source.

>>385754843
>ignoring the point

literally worse games sell more

for honor, shadow of mordor

its no wonder people threw hundreds of millions of dollars at a fucking idea if such absolute trash sells so well

why are you faggots surprised?

oh right because you actually enjoy that trash, and ignore that star citizen has any gameplay

>>385734964
Hi shill, i hope you enjoy "donating" at least $10K a month to that "game".

>>385734821
Mighty Number 9
Tropes vs Women in gaming.

>>385755241
star citizen is currently a shitty fps, a shitty arena fighter game, and a shitty lobby. maybe 3.0 will actually make sc a 'game' but currently it's a mess and even space engine delivers a better experience

>>385734821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmj5BV16Toc

>>385735219
For God's sake, the delta patcher has been in development for more than one and a half years.
Every time you download a patch you have to re-download the game.

>>385755529
>a shitty fps, a shitty arena fighter game

What's wrong with them?

>>385756626
He won't respond because he's never played them. Hell, someone called Star Marine "shitty cod/battlefield fps" earlier, when cod and battlefield aren't remotely similar in gameplay. The majority of people shitting on Star Citizen have never played it and will most likely never play it. They just want to talk shit about it. I've never understood it.

>>385755529
lmao yeah its more than what even some "finished" "AAA" games released today are

>>385757259
It's hard to play something that will never be finished or properly released.

>>385757441
Except that Star Marine IS released.

>>385757634
Renaming an early access build to Release doesn't really count as finishing the game.

HAHA, I was gunna pirate it. Then do somethin REAALLY evil.

Buy it if it was COMPLETE and GOOD!

>>385758535
Don't ever reply to my post again.

>>385758685
or wut

>>385758535
The point is you can play it. Arena Commander and Star Marine are playable right now. You can do ship racing, team death match, horde mode, ffa, etc. Right now.

>>385754691
name 5 (six)

>>385734964
>It's a "I've never played the game
Neither has anyone else, ha-cha-cha-cha

>>385736718
> believing creating random planets takes time
tip top kek, always the same noobsthat believe the marketing bullshit

>>385736020
> 0 counter arguments
> niggeerrsss
you have to go back

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>>385759640

> game development takes time
> developing the most complex game ever takes even more time
the more you know.jpg

>>385759640
>can't read the post two before his
Maybe Gaia would be more your speed, chief.

>>385758968
stop!

>>385738738
>already in orbit
>can't nuke it

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>those fags arguing "muh ship is better than yours!" and theorycrafting
>neither ship has gone beyond initial concept phase yet

>>385760035
fite me

>>385759979
Why are you in such denial?

Hopefully you aren't eating out of a box because of this, you can cut your loses. Your anonymous.

wait 3.0 still isnt out? lol

>>385760463
I've only spent $50. I would say the majority of backers have spent around that much.

>>385760463
>Hopefully you aren't eating out of a box because of this
I haven't backed Star Citizen but I eat cereal out of the box all the time.

>>385760393
please stop im scared

>>385762156
I eat cereal out of a bowl.

>>385742803
TFW you didn't buy into the scam
TFW you can spell also spell "buy"

>>385762515
>tfw you didn't buy into the scam
>ftw you can also spell "buy"
>tfw you don't make grammatical errors within your post which would make you look just as moronic as the guy you were criticizing
Feels good man.

>>385754529
Yes it is. Most AAA games made by studios with actual oversight go from pitch approval to finished product in 2-4 years.

>>385760663
It's over eight months behind schedule. Certain promised features/content are no longer in and calling any of the builds made to date 'Alphas' is both a lie by CIG and a blatant display of how contemptuous and predatory they are. An Alpha is, by most industry standards, feature complete. It has to have all the systems working, even if only a small shred of content is ready.

>>385740740
severely underrated

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Chris Roberts needs more money for his next vacation. Please buy more ships

>>385734964
This business model works the same like uber and buttcoin. Once the chinese moves out all their money buttcoin gonna crash and miners gonna soggy bottoms then you have the uber drivers facing the old taxi problem and then going broke etc.

>>385735628
Is his wife the one with short bangs giving cringy nerd comfort talk ? Cuz if it is then she's fucking hot ! I would kikestart 200mil to fuck her and explode in her womb.

>>385734821
Squadron 42 out any day now, bros! We just gotta believe! I bet if we keep giving more money to Chris Roberts (pbuh) it'll come out even faster!!!!!!!!

>>385765434
At this rate my wallet is powered by dreams.

Remember one thing: /v/ is always wrong about everything. If /v/ is shitting on this game, it's going to be amazing.

>>385765725
nigger

>>385765725
Examples?

>>385765545
Heh, every time a hater posts nonsense about this being a scam, I buy another ship. I'm up to dozens of ships now. Can't wait to fly 'em all!

>The subject of Star Citizen refunds gained some attention in June due to a change to the company's terms of service. As reported by Kotaku, a clause that had previous said "unearned portion[s]" of pledges "shall not be refundable until and unless RSI has failed to deliver the relevant pledge items and/or the game to you within eighteen (18) months after the estimated delivery date." This language was then adjusted to say these portions aren't refundable "until and unless RSI has ceased development and failed to deliver the relevant pledge items and/or the game to you."

Nope, this doesn't worry me in the slightest. Just gotta buy more ships!

>>385766167
Its a scam.

Waste money on one more ship.

>>385738048
>>what are movie trailers made 2-3 years before the movie's release?
?

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>>385766159
>Examples?
PUBG - for obvious reasons.
Tekken 7 - hyped to hell by /v/tards, deader than SF5 now.
Constant meme spouting about the "superiority" of Japanese games when picrelated is the actual situation on the market.

Pretty much anything /v/ says is wrong, this will be no exception.

>Its still not finished

lol

"space sims" or "space combat games" in general kind of underwhelm me.

they lack too much in the "sim" area, they don't bother coming up with interesting (if boring/frusterating) problems or challenges, instead having to introduce artificial ones in the form of "raiders" or pirates, landing is always either silly or without much of a challenge, and combat is typically either WW1/WW2 dogfights in space but without any of the extra bits that made ww1/ww2 dogfights interesting or tactical. (such as altitude, engine management, ammo management, do-not-exceed-speed, etc).

There will be no catharsis when this thing completely implodes. No "I told you so". Star Citizen cultists will never admit they were wrong. They're already claiming they've got their money's worth out f the game, just from the shitty dogfighting and FPS modules.

>>385766494
>PUBG
Crap

>Tekken
Crap. Who the fuck said that was gonna be good? All I've seen is everyone shitting on it. Fighting games in general have always been trash.

Thats all you can come up with?

>>385760663
>wait 3.0 still isnt out? lol
nope. in fact it was just announced that it's being delayed. again. again. again.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-31-star-citizens-big-alpha-3-0-release-slips-again

>>385767306
You're either delusional or a massive newfag, not even a couple of months old.

>>385766494
/v/ was also right about many things too, like SimCity, TorTanic, NuDragon Age, Andromeda, and No Mans Sky. Your example of PUBG is also null because I'd say about half of /v/ said it was going to be a success.

It doesn't take much of a brain to figure out this is going to end in a subpar, unsatisfactory manner.

>>385767324
Rev up them class action lawsuits

>>385766494
>PUBG
\VEEH\ was right though: it's the modern quintessential streamer/yt-bait game

>>385767449
>TorTanic
>EA swimming in profit because of it
yeah haha we did it /v/ros!

>>385767437
>delusional
>newfag
Man, youre going all out, arent you? You could, you know, prove me wrong. But nah, youre just gonna name call and avoid.

>>385767731
>the paid game was a gigantic failure
>/v/ states that the only way for it to make any money back is to go f2p
This is me being smug. :^)

>>385767476
>Rev up them class action lawsuits
Luckily our Lord and Savior Christ Roberts thought ahead, and changed their ToS to state that they can blow their release dates as much as they like and nobody's entitled to anything.

>>385767958
I remember the announcement of tor going fp2 was the confirmation of "failure" in the eyes of the average vee user

>>385768029
Mm, this only applies to those who have accepted the new TOS. Anyone who didn't accept the new TOS/EULA can easily form a class action lawsuit. And even further, those in Europe can have a ridiculously easy time forming a civil suit against them because the law is much more preferential of the consumer in the EU than in America. Not saying a class action lawsuit will happen, just that it can easily be done.

>>385768029
But they have to eventually come out with something. They can't just keep pushing it back for eternity. There comes a time where theyre just not gonna release and action has to be taken.

>>385768176
It was really just confirmation that /v/ was right. The majority thought process was that it would probably make its money back, but what mattered was that /v/ was right on the money when they said it would be a failure as a paid product. That's all the average autist needed to know.

>>385768216
Star Citizen fans went apeshit when people started requesting refunds and someone wrote a guide on how to get one, if there's a lawsuit they'll have a meltdown.

I was tempted to buy one of the $160 ships when they showed that mission preview. I was convinced that it was coming out within the year like they said it was, but here we are 2 years later and they haven't even shown progress since.

And recently they said that 90% of the number of planned planets and star systems won't be in the game. I'm so glad I didn't do it.

Could be worse.

Could be elite dangerous

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>>385760039
How do you kill it then?

>>385740480
This is a pretty poor post dude, you may want to try again after more practice.

>>385768029
TOS doesn't hold up in courts.

>>385768416
>spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars funding your dream project
>wrecking relationships, job statuses, and friendships because you decided to spend such ludicrous amounts of money
Admittedly some of these people are very rich, but I remember reading that somebody sold his house or mortgaged it to buy the big packages. It doesn't surprise me that they'd be angry if somebody could potentially hurt their dream game. Not that I'm defending these autists.

>>385768364
I don't know mang, feels like you're giving way too much credit to the average user, even though you still have plenty of fags in this shithole who unironically believe tor is still a blunder in this day and age of whales pouring money at blatant shit

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Spent $15 on it. If it actually comes out, great, if not then it's not that big of a loss.

>>385768686
I remember the /tor/ threads a few months before it went f2p, and the consensus was pretty much
>it's a failure so much that they'll have to get brs to play it
And so on and so on. I'm sure some people truly believe it's a failure still, but /v/ was right about two things: Tor the paid game was a failure, and Tor would go f2p. Whether or not Tor is considered a financial success by /v/ is null, as /v/ was for the most part, right about TorTanic. Now they've been utterly btfo'd in other cases, like Tekken, but not on Tor.

>>385768753
Doesn't $15 just get you access to the alpha shit they currently have, and not the full game when it finally comes out?

>>385768961
the tortanic sank at it's dock and was then turned into a luxury restaurant/hotel/casino instead of properly refloated.

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>>385769268
They had a bundle a while back that gave you the full single-player and Star Citizen online for $15. The only downside was you get a tiny ship that can't really do much combat wise.

>>385769296
>saying something I already agreed on
You're retarded. This entire argument was about someone pretending /v/ was wrong, when they were in actuality, right about what they said: TorTanic the paid game would be a failure, and that it'd have to go f2p to make its money back. Both came true, and /v/ was right. You saying it was a success is a non sequitur and I already stated that it was a success up above. The Tortanic only became successful much later after it went f2p, which is what we're not talking about. We're talking about /v/s predictions of Tortanic and how they were correct on both predictions.

Stop shitposting.

>>385764776
Can't believe it took this long for someone to post it. Also didn't they spend $10k on putting Star Trek doors in their office?

Shit's a scam, specially considering there are already a good half dozen games that do what SC does.

I mean shit, just play Star Conflict if you want ship grinding customization open world exploration.

>>385734821
i spent 60 bucks on this for sq42 and some ship only for sq42 to get delayed like a week later. i wanna sell my account, but i just know sq42 will come out once i do. such shit. dont get me started on how you can randomly get flug out of your ship sometimes, or how you can somehow push ships by bumping into them, or the awful optimization.

So how much did they get for this game? Counting all the money from the ships and whatnot?

>>385772257
$155M or so, not counting anything they got from sources other than the backers

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