>Remake is better than the original Any other examples

Metroid Zero Mission

Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver

Sonic 1/2 mobile (though the changes are very subtle)

64 DS is shit heres your (OP)

>>385702669
How? How about you fucking play the original Mario 64 again and see how awful it was, you meme-loving fuck.

>>385702669
muh nostalgia

>>385702580
>inb4 "it" gets posted again

pic unrelated?

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>>385702580
Here OP. Here's a remake that actually is better than the original, unlike what you posted.

>>385702669
>>385702896
Not OP, but what was wrong with Mario 64 DS?

>>385702896
Only massive flaw is the rolling animation

>>385702865
I agree, the only thing that's sucks about it was the retarded amount of Matrix slow-mo in the cutscenes

>>385702946
>D-pad
>run button
that just really leaves a lot to be desired anon

>>385702946
Controls, physics, unnecessary extra characters, some bad redesigns on graphics and the extra stars aren't even that fun.

>>385702946
>muh lochness monster
>muh spider
>muh derp bowser
Literally nothing.

>>385702946
shit controls, shit resolution, new stars are shit, new characters only make the game worse by forcing you to switch them for some stars

>>385702778
I played the ds version first and didnt play the original until years later

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op is a faggot posting this bait

>>385703331
Right is better. Sorry you're a faggot.

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>>385702896
This game doesn't really change anything significantly enough to warrant being called a "remake" and what little changes its made is more subjectively better or worse, and if you only really change minor things that don't make that big of a difference, are you really superior to the original, or are you just a cheap cashin?

>>385702669
>>385702896
>>385703065
>>385703184
>>385703331
Are 64 fanboys this butthurt over stupid shit?

>>385703525
>just

>>385703525
I never noticed how kawai that water thing is.

>>385703553
Why is Metal Mario fat in the DS version?

>>385703821
It's Wario.

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>>385703821
>>385703856

>>385702669
Play it on 3ds and its main problem outside of button to run is fixed. The 3 extra characters, extra courses, and extra stars does make it definitive.

>>385703331
Why are all the mario characters on the left deformed?

>>385702580
Ignoring 8 directions of movement and switching characters being annoying at times I agree

>>385703931
>The 3 extra characters, extra courses, and extra stars does make it awful.
Patched that up for you.

>>385703931
3DS doesn't magically make your movement analog, it simply maps digital input to that shit circle pad.

The extra courses are bad, by the way.

The DS remake should've turned it into a sidescroller. All 3D Mario games are inherently bad.

>>385703954
that's hardly a remake

>>385702580
If only the controls weren't shit.

>>385704134
>All 3D Mario games are inherently bad
Bait?

>>385704134
Confirmed for not playing Galaxy 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtHiVa5kg6E

>>385704134
You are inherently retarded and possibly lacking one eye.

That's what NSMB is, by the way. It's built upon the SM64 engine. Sure you loved those with that shit taste of yours.

>>385702627
>Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver
Nice joke, Sinnohfetus.

>>385704063
Nah. I bet you fucking compare the three characters on the same level like DK 64, fucktard.

>>385704202
There was nothing wrong with NSMB DS, anon

>>385704179
Did you play it? Mario 64 has worse controls and camera than the remake.

>>385704193

Possibly the one and only Mario game with worse level design than SM64. Don't get me wrong, all the 3D Marios are bad because of poor lazy level design, but Galaxy 2 absolutely takes the cake.

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>>385704462
>Mario 64 has worse controls and camera than the remake

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>>385704462
I did. Both the N64 and the DS version. You know what the difference is? The DS doesn't have a fucking analog stick, and Nintendo thought this was a good idea, instead of putting it on the 3ds instead, which HAS an analog stick.

>>385702580
Am I being meme'd by these SM64DS>SM64 posters?
There's simply no way a 3D game controlled with a D-pad is better than one with an analog stick. It's not even an argument

>>385702580
KH1.5 and 2.5
Fire Red and Leaf Green
Heart Gold and Soul Silver
Last of Us Remastered
FFX for PS4
DS2:SotFS

>>385704940
Remaster =/= remake

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>>385704926
its a meme.
they love nudorry so much because it reminds them of yoshi

>>385703423
Actually >>385703184 is a valid point and a conclusion I also reached only after replaying the game recently (within the last year or so.) The characters are actually a total nuisance.

>Luigi breaks the game completely by having OP as fuck jumping height
>Wario is a chore to move around at all due to his fatness
>Yoshi is the only one who can equip a hat at the start of each stage, so the others have to run all the way back to the entrance to switch
>Metal and wing cap placements are fucked
>Fire breath yoshi and balloon mario are complete cancer

The other points are negligible to me, I liked the new maps (for the new bosses), but the characters definitely shit up the game's balance. After playing both I can easily say it's far more convenient having just Mario.

>>385705027
DS Dorry looks better

>>385703015
As if that were so out of place in the Metal Gear universe. Remember Ocelot in MGS3?

>>385705015
alright well I suppose the only ones on my list that are still valid are the Pokemon games then

>>385703015
Those cutscenes were cool, it emphasize Snake's skill against the bad guys. Everything else was shit unfortunately, that includes the voice acting and broken gameplay

>>385703415
Graphics, boss rush, and aimming with the gyroscope.

>>385704719
>instead of putting it on the 3ds instead, which HAS an analog stick.
It was DS launch title you fucking retard

>>385705058
>"have to run all the way to the entrance"
>ignoring the hat spawn points
Dumb retard lmao

>>385705173
Replacing textures isn't that big of an accomplishment, neither is adding a simple feature or adding a gimmick that's impossible to emulate. If it was a genuine remake, there would be plenty of new content and an attempt at improving the game, but there isn't.

>>385705269
>Adding a gimmick that's impossible to emulate.
The fuck is this supposed to mean? And you're bullshiting me that the boss rush, graphics and aimming with gyroscope as well as having boots be selectable for the quick switch aren't improvements.

>>385702580
All the extra content doesn't make up for digital controls. I'll stick with the 64 version.

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>>385704231
Gen 5 fag i bet

>>385705452
But the 64 version is fucking awful

>>385702865
adding first person ruins the game and make it too easy. MGS1 bosses like Ocelot weren't designed with that in mind.

>>385705514
It's much more playable.

>>385705353
The graphics changes aren't necessarily an improvement. Technically, it's the same "graphics," just swapped textures. It's an entirely subjective difference and honestly, it's weird that people would say that you should play a game with a texture-pack first over the original.

>What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
Do you think that 20 years from now, people are going to be playing Ocarina of Time on their 3DS? The point of a "best" version of a game is that it's something that you should play over the other versions. The Gyroscope is a gimmick that isn't going to be a significant feature when the game is inevitably emulated.

Having the boots be selectable is an improvement, but it's so minor that any minor hacker can add it in. Might as well just play the original at that point.

Oh, and the boss rush is just superfluous. It doesn't add anything to the game, really.

>>385705551
Nah.

>>385703331
right looks better. fuck the abomination that n64's hardware was

>>385705546
>adding controls which aren't shit ruins the game
Literally the Persona 3 argument.

They're both great. But DS has so many changes you could call it a different game.

>>385705561
>master quest included
>not the shitty gamecube version

juuuust sayin

>>385705207
Exactly.

>>385705659
Wow, an NG+ feature. That just seems like more of a reason to play the 3DS version after the original, with a complete save file already loaded in so you can go straight to master quest with new graphics after you played the real game and not a fan-made texture hack.

>>385705561
How could you say the N64 had better graphics than the 3DS?

>>385705763
The lighting in the N64 version was much moodier. Even if the 3DS is superior in a technical sense I can understand someone preferring the N64's aesthetics.
It's especially bad in Majora's Mask.
The framerate is the best part about the 3DS version's graphics, even if it's only 30fps.

>>385702580
>digital movement on 3d environment
Here's your (you).

>>385705763
The N64 and 3DS graphics are negligible, the native resolution is bigger by less than 100 pixels each, and the framerate is about 6 frames faster. In addition to that, the original has a unique art style that came to fruition due to the limitations of the console, while the 3DS version is a fan-made texture hack. By principle, the 3DS version makes so little an improvement yet so big a difference that it's really not worth playing first over the original.

>>385705830
I think something about lowpoly made shading much easier to pull, because OoT went to town with it. That and OoT3D had those disgustingly saturated colors for 3D's sake. Grezzo could have done a much better job.

>>385704231
Please explain why the original GS are better, I litterally cannot think of a single way they are

>>385703931
>>385704127
>>385702669
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>>385703065
>>385703184
if you emulate it can you just map an analog stick on a controller to touch screen input to have normal analog controls?

>>385705908
>texture hack
So you're retarded then.

>>385705725
What the fuck. You just made that needlessly complicated.

Get OoT for 3DS. Play the main game. Have the master quest right there in the same place.

>hurr durr play two compiessss for the furr expureience
>but oh yeahd you gottab find a save file for thea 3ds bersion so youds can akscully play tah mastuer quest
>i ams a freucking gENIOUS

>>385705964
Aside from a few minor model differences, it's really a simple texture hack. It looks no different from fan-made ones.

>>385705995
Did you have a stroke? I don't understand what you're saying, assuming you had a point to begin with (which it doesn't seem so.)

>>385706028
>minor model differences
kek

>>385705908
>the original has a unique art style that came to fruition due to the limitations of the console

Nigger, what? I'm an autist for visual design and direction but super mario 64 doesn't even have a specific art style

>>385705561
this is next level sperging
good work

>>385705725
>the "remake" adds nothing new
>lists all the things that it adds that are new
>b-but those arent m-meaningful enough!!

kys anon

>>385704926
>There's simply no way a 3D game controlled with a D-pad controls better than one with an analog stick.
ftfy

>>385706103
Nigger, they're talking OoT. And SM64DS looks drab as fuck, who stole the colors?

>>385706028
Nah but I think you did if you don't seem to understand the simplicity of having all the available content in one place, for example, OoT 3DS having the main game, master quest, boss rush, other added features, better fidelity, and a smoother framerate, all in one place, with no need for mods, or hacked save files, or overclocking, or emulation. And yet you seem to argue that N64 is the definitive version? Why not the Gamecube version, then? Or did you not know that existed?

I think you think you're clever, but this is your last (you) from me.

>>385705269
>textures
they redid the models altogether so they don't look like blocky garbage.
While we're talking about graphics, the two 64 zelda remakes are some of the only games that use the 3D effect properly and to its full potential.
inb4 3d sucks
it's fucking progress and for those of us who don't have genetically inferior eyes it's a neat feature.
It also includes Master Quest. Not new, but definitely something the original doesn't have.

and it has a good feature for completionists. Maybe there's people who 100% OoT or MM without any help, but they are definitely a minority. Back when those games came out no one looked down on using guides to look up every secret. Now instead of having to go to a guide, those people can get a hint in-game instead of going to some shitty website or getting spoiled on other secrets they wanted to figure out on their own..

>>385706720
how similar is this to the gba games? Those were the last FE games I enjoyed, really couldnt get into Awakening.

This post kills the thread.

>>385706407
it sounds like he doesn't even have a 3DS

>>385706842
Absolutely shit tier maps. Just like the original Gaiden.

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>>385702646
>>385702865
>>385702896
>>385703954
I absolutely agree though The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening DX is not a remake

The new Shadow of the Colossus Remake will be better than the PS2 and PISS3 Remaster version

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>>385706842
It's pretty different from the rest of the series, though Sacred Stones tried to be sort of its reincarnation in the GBA games' style. What kinds of things about the games do you have in mind that you like and dislike?

>>385707008
I guess videogames are too immature of a medium for people to understand this, but you do realize that all this remake of SotC1 would do is be the equivalent of, say, if they remade "Little Shop of Horrors" but instead of using the puppet, they used CGI? It's not half as impressive nor soulful. It's just stupid, and the game doesn't even add the 8 cut colossi to begin with.

>>385707080
I loved the animations of the gba games, the art-style/design of the characters as well. It was really hard to get into awakening with how boring the combat animations were, they never got me hyped to be in battle. I also have 0 interest in the relationship/waifu stuff.

Every FF and DQ remake.

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Turned a mediocre game into a great one

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>>385707372
If that's the case, you might enjoy this one more to some extent. The art direction is often agreed to be the best the series has seen for some time, and the characters are a bit more grounded with romance only ever being a thing between specific characters that happens to be there rather than be a mechanic to concern with. Supports are more like how they used to be but without the 5 conversation limit.

Gameplay wise, it does kind of fall flat a bit as the core design still tries to stay faithful to the original game which is very dated. The remake does a lot of good with the sheer amount of quality of life updates like not being slow. The maps can be considered pretty flat with only a few actually interesting ones and a lot of them can feel like a slog. If you're in more for setting and cast though, you're in for a relatively comfy ride that doesn't try to be too crazy with its plot and everybody's a little bit more grounded in personalities.

>>385707372
>>385707871
Don't listen to him, the maps are so shit, it's not worth it. Although considering you didn't mention anything concerning gameplay, you'd probably eat that shit up.

>>385707857
still too repetitive.

>>385707857
does it make the three wise men bosses playable?

fuck those niggers

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>>385707008
>Shadow of Colossus remake will be better than the original.

Like the Crash Bandicoot remake?

>>385705943
>In previous generations, physical and special attacks were separated by type, but starting in the Generation IV games Diamond and Pearl, they were split into more logical categories. This brought great change to the metagame.
Best change to happen since the first game was released.

>>385707871
Thanks, I appreciate the help!

>>385706842
It's the black sheep of the series and has alot of unique things about it, for better and worse. Definitely worth checking out at the very least.

>>385707871
I forgot to ask, what is the unit selection like? I heard something about there only being swords, magic and lances or something weird like that?

>>385703525
>Redesign character to look more in line with the rest of the mario games' designs.

Come on guy.

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>>385708863
Yeah there were no axe classes at all in the game besides bandits which were only enemies, since the weapon triangle wasn't a thing yet for the original and as the second game in the series, they were still experimenting with a lot of shit. I don't feel like that hurts the game as much as I expected it to though. It kind of makes classes stand out a little bit more with their stats rather than a specifically given weapon role. The variety does still feel a bit smaller than most games though, which is especially noticeable by the fact that each of the two sides has an abundance in certain recruitable classes compared to the other. (Alm gets more cavaliers and knights and Celica gets more mercenaries and mages for example)

>>385702807
>>385703525

>>385707273
I don't care because i never playes the 10fps PS2 version and i couldn't care less. All i want is a good looking game with great gameplay that runs smoothly

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>>385709523
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum k

>>385709523
So play the PS3 version.

>>385709287
Not him, but it's also worth noting that you also have villagers which can pick from like 4 different classes but out side of them there is little unit customisation outside of dlc

>>385709670
are there thieves?

>>385702767
Removing full analogue control and restricting it to 8 directions ruins the game. But you've played neither in years so you don't remember that.

>>385705597
no, adding controls that it wasn't built with in mind can fuck up or even make a game piss easy

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>>385705269
>Replacing textures isn't that big of an accomplishment
>>385705561
>it's the same "graphics," just swapped textures.

What the fuck? Why are you shitposting about a game you know nothing about as if it were fact, that even a quick google search would prove you wrong?

>>385710367
If the game is only difficult because the controls are shit, then the game is shit.

>>385710454
ive never played zelda but left looks better imo right looks too much like indie games

>>385710454
That looks gay

>>385710550
>looks too much like indie games
What the fuck? Please show me an indie game that looks like the right. If anything, indie games look like the left, because low poly is all the rage.

>>385709939
Nope, intact treasure is only found in dungeons which you just open yourself

>>385710610
You show me a 3D indie game with proper shading and anything resembling industry grade art design.

>>385711063
I asked you first, asshole. The burden of proof is on you to show that indie games look like OoT3D.

>>385709637
Why would i buy a PISS3 for one remaster that gets a remake for the PS4?

>>385712198
PS3 has more games than PS4.

Reaper of Souls
Realm Reborn

Turns out garbage can be salvaged

Pokemon except oras, resident evil

>>385712338
The PISS3 has not even one good game thats not a remaster