>Great singleplayer >Fun multiplayer >Tons of secrets

>>385690823
Bethesda magic

Rip and tear is an emotion.

I got tired of looking for keycards and switches

Not enough killing

is it worth $10?
I played wolfenstein and it was kinda okay, nothing special.

>>385690823
They focused on, imagine this, it being a fun game instead of a "cinematic experience"

>>385690823
They spent a decade of their time fucking up and realizing they were making a generic FPS. So, they made it good at the last minute by trying not to copy other FPS on the market as much.

>>385690823
The MP's ass, man.

I legitimately enjoyed Doom 3 and having to switch between flashlight and gun.

Was the first time I beat a game that spooped me

>>385690823
> nuDoom
> fast

>>385691252
if you liked the gunplay but didnt like the stealth and story elements id say youre in for a good time, otherwise id say you probably wont like it if you didnt enjoy the gameplay of nu wolfenstein

>>385691252
Gunplay is great, the game works by having each level be a fairly open and large sized map that loops and connects and has a few easter eggs and objectives on it so it's kinda linear but not as much as Wolfenstein

>>385691252
Wolfenstein may as well be a cover shooter. DOOM is as close to classic gameplay as you're going to get in the modern day.

>Fun multiplayer

Nah, just say the single player is good and call it a day

>>385691892
Relatively

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>>385690823
>"nudoom is great"
get the fuck out

>>385691252
>is it worth $10?

Are you seriously planning on buying the original doom on steam?

DOOM (2016) is fucking great. The multiplayer might of been a let down but everything else was pretty damn amazing.

>>385690823
I cannot stop playing the multiplayer since they did the redesign a week or so ago.

I have like 35 hours logged in the past two weeks.
It's the most fun i've had with a multiplayer since TF2 10 years ago and quake3 and UT99 before that.

I like it alot more than quake champions.

>multiplayer
let's talk about how low weapon switch time and weapon combos ruined the game a long time ago and made most modes more mechanically based than they should be. seriously, an SSG user is not punished for a bad shot and can just switch weapons to avoid the reload downtime. also why is the static rifle so easy to get a shot with and why does it award a bodyshot with 60 damage with no laser warning for opponents like the vortex rifle has? that's OP and is especially OP when paired with combat shotgun, and everyone knows it because it's the most popular noob weapon combo. why is this MP so retarded and why did the retard devs listen to the casual playerbase by reverting the few good changes they did in some patches months ago? 6.66 also made things even less competitive than before with powerup callouts and always-on hack modules. i'm confused that a multiplayer game that started out pretty bad and mostly anti-competitive back at launch got even worse over time and literally is still getting worse even to this day after a patch that no one expected or wanted

>>385690823
My only problem though
>those scenes where you have to wait for an NPC to finish a dialogue before you can proceed

>>385694381
>posts on a controlled opposition board about how he's so anti establishment

>>385690823
I didn't like the MP but the single player was a very fresh breath of air in the landscape of FPS SP campaigns.
Followed by Titanfall 2's single player I'm convinced some devs still care about a goos single player FPS experience.

>>385690823
Bethesda thought the multiplayer would be the main draw, so they let Id do whatever with the main campaign while they prepared like 4 dlc packs for the outsourced multi

Id didn't give a shit about the story, and designed the game before shoehorning in the story at the last minute. It why the game is all about Arena combat with some light exploration and platforming placed between encounters and only one story segment in the entire game

>>385695173
I mostly just hate it for the poorly thought out loadout system, the abysmal netcode, and the lack of feeling you get from shooting or being shot by anything. It just feels poor.

>>385698436
>poorly thought out loadout system
maybe they should've classified weapons into primary and secondary categories and forced players to pick one primary and one secondary to form the loadout. that could've allowed for better balancing. equipment was always gay and shouldn't exist

>and the lack of feeling you get from shooting or being shot by anything
yeah I don't know why id refused to include any pain sounds. doomguy shouldn't have been silent and after playing classic doom MP and quake MP a lot i expect to hear pain sounds when i'm getting hit in MP.

Seems no one here played the MP after the 6.66 patch.

>>385699917
at least two people did

>>385695173
>>385694873

Press X to kill enemy in a cinematic

Doom is so great!!

>>385697945
Explain how the singleplayer was in any way, shape, or form, refreshing. It's the most dull and repetitive shit since...idk, doom.

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>>385701367
DOOM was great, but there was a distinct lack of Arachnotrons.

>>385694381
>buys game
>enjoys said game and thinks game is good
fucking capitalist pigs, amirite?

Doom 3>>>>>>>>>>>Doom 2>Doom 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>power gap>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nuDoom

You can't prove me wrong

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>>385690823
It gave me motion sickness

>>385701367
>Press X to kill enemy in a cinematic

More like "Press Melee as one way to finish off an enemy for a reward". Glory kills are NOT mandatory except for 5 times... and those are finishers to bosses.

>>385690823
>Fun multiplayer
No

>>385694381
Reminder that any differing options to capitalism is reverting back to the dark ages

Shit at least people back then knew how to do shits. All these "anarchists" and "socialists only know how to get handouts

>>385701739
Glory kills exist.

I don't want fucking hand holding in a M rated game. This isn't resident evil 7.

>>385701650
>Doom 3 over the originals
>Doom 2 over Doom 1
>No mention of Doom 64
>D44M that low

Shit list

>>385701770
I've always wondered what anarchists would do after they overthrow society, assume they do.

>>385701832
They exist as a crutch to shit players.

There is enough health and ammo in the levels to go through the entire game since every enemy uses melee or projectile weaponry.

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>>385690823
>5-hour single player
>trash multi
>barely any secrets with barebones lore that doesn't explain shit


fast, solid gameplay yes

>>385701905
Crutches to shitty players is what's ruining the gaming industry.

Or, already ruined

>>385701918
>Barebones lore

Explain. The story of the UAC in this universe is well explained and goes into a lot of depth, explaining why there even is a demonic cult on Mars.

>>385691778
>>385692886
>>385694725
>>385698436
>>385701759
t. "i played the open beta for 30 minutes in april 2016 and joined the steam/reddit neckbeard hivemind because i got owned"

>>385695173
and you're just a freak, lmao

>>385702031
The game can still be pretty difficult in harder difficulties even with Glory Kills.

In some cases it is better not go for a glory kill.

>Great singleplayer
Consisting in locked arenas which you need to kill everything in the room to progress, the complete opposite to Doom
>Fun Multiplayer
What? Even the staunch defenders of Doom 4 admit the multiplayer is garbage.
>Tons of secrets
Majority of which amount to rehashed levels from the previous games made by people with substantially more talent.
>Fast, solid gameplay
All depends on what your frame of reference is. Is it faster than your standard modern day shooter? Yeah, sure. Taking the whole genre over the last 20+ years though, it's still quite slow. Also, given the fact it's a part of the Doom series, it is still substantially slower than the original 2 games.

>How did they do it?
Do what? Successfully convince you that this was something more than a shameless cash grab by invoking feelings of nostalgia by invoking the name of a universally beloved series? I don't know. I'd expect you are not too bright.

>>385702425
>complete opposite of Doom

Doom 3 still holds that title

>>385702060
>t. "i played the open beta for 30 minutes in april 2016 and joined the steam/reddit neckbeard hivemind because i got owned"
to be fair the tdm is garbage in this game and tdm is like a benchmark mode so of course it drew everyone's attention and left warpath in the dust when the beta was happening, so everyone based their judgement on the tdm

>and you're just a freak, lmao
i admit i'm one of the few people who took this game's MP seriously, but since id software defined the competitive FPS with doom 1 and 2 and continued to be a big player in the scene with the quake games, I hold id software games to a high standard in the realm of competitive play, and doom 2016 completely blew it

>>385702592
Fuck anon, now I feel bad. Sorry. I do agree that the new patch is pretty shitty and when I heard the rumors about a MP overhaul I thought they'd remove loadouts and shit. With the free weekend and this new update with flashy cod-style progression (you have to admit, pre-patch it wasn't that annoying and in-your-face as it is now) they're clearly just trying to get as many sales as they can as a last ditch effort. With the weapon balance, well, they have done a few patches for that in the past so let's hope they'll make some changes before they're properly done with the game.
Ahh, I just wonder what it would have been like if it was only id who worked on the MP. I suppose their zenimax overlords would have still commanded them to make something that fits in with the whole progression meme in modern fps though.

>>385702868
If it was just different skins that you progressed to get, I think that would make for a good compromise.

Speaking of MP, is Quake Champions actually good?

>>385690823
Lacks singleplayer Co-op

>>385702927
it is mostly cosmetic stuff. you unlock all the weapons in like an hour or two.

i'm convinced that the very extreme majority of people shitting on the multiplayer have not even given it a chance. no, playing one single match match where you ran around confused as to what the objective was while you went 1 - 12 a year ago before the overhaul does not qualify as experience.

I think it's alot of fun, and it's one thing to disagree with me, but based on the complaints i'm reading in this thread nobody really seems to know what they are talking about. just go play PUBG, this isn't for you.

>>385690823
Why did so many people want this to just be the original doom games but in HD?
Yeah the original ones are still easily the best but at that point just go fucking download some wads if you want more of the originals. I didn't mind the change in gameplay and design

>>385702060
I beat the single player campaign awhile ago, and never bothered with the MP because I assumed it was hastily tacked on garbage. I ended up playing the multiplayer after hearing about the new update, and I've been enjoying it a lot. How bad was the original multiplayer mode compared to the updated multiplayer?

>>385695173
Why is the lightning gun so shit? SHIIIIIIIT?!

>>385694302
anything is (((fast))) when you compare to AAA fecal stream of games for disabled children that move at the speed lame dead giraffe and are RPGs to boot

it's still slow