It's objectively the best OS right now. Why does /v/

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i hate everything, especially myself

muh botnet

Hello Pahjeet!

Muh Windows 7

>>385641147
Bloated botnet.

Best OS? It might be the best Windows, but even that's a stretch.

I still use Windows 7 because I like old games and I don't want the backwards compatibility to get even worse. As for new games, there are no good ones that actually require Windows 10, so I have no incentive to """upgrade""".

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>>385641354
>>385641384

without meming. name ONE thing bad about win10

protip:you literally can't

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>>385641578
Forza Horizon 3 is an amazing game senpai. I wish you could see it one day.

Windows 10 is faster but it has lots of things I don't like about it

One of which is the fact that MS for whatever reason got rid of a lot of search shortcuts, which makes my job in IT more annoying.

>>385641618
unusable without group policy or the messing with registry if you use a plebeian version.
ugly

>>385641578
Gears of War 4 is great and I have had no issues playing older games on W10.

>>385641618

I've heard a lot about disk usage problems.
I've also heard that Windows 10 has built-in ads.
I've also heard that it gives users less control over updates.

I won't willingly use Windows 10 unless these things are fixed.

>>385641147
Has anyone had weird things happen while playing older games on Windows 10.

I wanted to play FEAR 2 the other day and the game started freezing for half a second every time someone started talking over the radio.

>>385641618
>without meming. name ONE thing bad about win10

Video game incompatibilities.

>>385641972

Microsoft doesn't want you to play old games on Windows 10. They want you to buy the latest game from the Windows store for $60.

It blows my mind when people continue to reinstall 7 in 2017 thinking it's somehow more private than 10.
>b-b-but i didn't install any of the updates
It's still full of NSA backdoors you fucking idiot, install Linux already if you care about "privacy," we all know you don't though so you can stop using this excuse now and just admit you're retarded.

>>385641618
settings STILL split in different metro/classic menus.
"""material design"""" is an abomination that doesn't belong on the desktop

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>>385641618
>without meming
Raises valid criticism of breaches of privacy
>what a memer we got over here amirite

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>>385642061
all terrible excuses. use the enterprise edition you fucks. its like complaining of using windows 7 basic instead of ultimate

I for one, installed Windows 10 and never looked back. It really is the best operating system for all of your gaming needs."

Be sure to mention Microsoft Edge as well.

>>385642094
So it's well known issue that some games originally designed for XP have issues running on Windows 10?

>>385641735

Of all the examples, you pick a racing game that has barely changed beyond visuals.

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>>385642061
But anon both Fallout 4 and Skyrim work perfectly on Win10. You don't need other games.

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>>385641957
You can remove all ads with 5 seconds of tinkering with the start menu.

Other complaints are valid though. Only really upgraded to 10 because I got a key free from work and there are a few W10 exclusive games I enjoy playing.

>>385641972

One time they tried to get rid of Dx 9 in one update and replace it with Dx11 emulating it, if I remember correctly.

A lot (but not all) of games that used Dx9 became unplayable with issues like frames not going past 10 and the only fix was somehow trying to restore or reinstall Dx9, which for some reason didnt always work.

[Spoiler] This issue made me clean reinstall the whole OS just to play a game[/spoiler]

>>385642492
I don't know about last generation games, but older games from XP or older have worked better for me with Windows 10 than 7.

>>385642538

>Radeon

Oh, you poor thing...

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>>385642538
>not using the tomorrow style

>muh upgrade

>>385641147
microsoft spying on you.
microsoft turning you into a part of its botnet
>Muh you save a few megabytes of ram
>>muh few frame difference.
And the shitty UI is made to appeal to phone faggots
>defending microsoft products

>>385642729
What's wrong with AMD cards? Got an R9 390 for cheap a few years ago and it still runs everything I throw at it.

I have an R5 1600 too because I'm a giant AMD shill

>>385642864
>microsoft spying on you.
>microsoft turning you into a part of its botnet
And they always have been, you ARE using Linux right?

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>>385642538
>not browsing 4chan on your phone

>>385642864
>microsoft spying on you.

same with facebook and google. and yet you use those everyday

>>385642935
nope.
I use win 7 ultimate.
Too dumb to use linux

>>385641618
Their """(((Update)))""" processes use 100% of the CPU and hard drive at times which makes my laptop turn into a radiator

>>385643031
You can stop complaining about privacy then because you are literally not more secure using 7 than 10.

>>385642610
That's strange to hear.
I've been having this issue ever since I installed Windows 10 when it was free and I've tried every hardware test I can think of so I don't think it's a hardware issue.

I guess I'm just gonna have to keep living with the fact that some games are gonna be a little wonky.

>>385643012
There's a difference between an OS and a search engine or facebook. Having to be mindful of what you enter into a search engine or post on facebook isn't that inconvenient, but having to watch out for everything on your entire computer is very limiting.

>>385643137
Did you do a clean install or did you "upgrade" a previous Windows install?

>>385641618
on my computers:
disk usage problems slowing down my computer that werent there on windows 7 or 8
unable to turn off cortana or windows defender easily
lots of suspicious shit
forced updates
boring awful design

>>385641147
for gaming you mean

>>385643012
>>385643012
no I dont.
I use duck duck go
>faceberg
fag
and since its the OS microsoft knows everything since they have the right to monitor everything you do

>>385643097
yes it is.
Quite a few videos proving that

I'm getting a new laptop soon with win10 on it (my desktop is still on 7)

Does anyone know of any good guides for uninstalling the bot/spyware shit that comes with Win10?

>>385641957
horrible disk usage problems, an ssd is mandatory because 45% of the time w10 is checking for updates or some shit taking up 99% of a 7200 rpm disc

same with cpu, hope you enjoy 35% of your cpu completely unusable for anything but the OS whenever there's an update around the corner

oh hey we're making this software unusable in the next update
HEY YOU HAVE NO CHOICE HERE, UPDATE
KK WE'RE UPDATING SAY GOODBYE TO SHIT YOU'VE USED SINCE THE 90S

same fucking stuck UAC screen problems as Vista

I hated Vista at its worst in sp1 less than W10

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post tfw you installed for scalebound

>>385643286
Upgrade

>>385642556
It could've been fixed by just installing the OG DX9.0c redist, not the web installer, not the new redist, the OG one that unzips into shitload of files in your C:\ if you forgot to make a folder for it, you know which one I mean.

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>>385642556
Nine out of ten OS mascots use Ctrl-S to spoiler, anon.

>>385642469

How the fuck would using Enterprise edition fix video game incompatibilities?

You're not a very good shill.

>>385643572
The upgrade is fucky and made things work worse than they should, Microsoft shouldn't have made it an option.

>>385643097
you did not hear a public outrage from anyone when win 7 was released.
But you hear one when 10 was.
Not very coincidental.

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>>385643613
> the OG one that unzips into shitload of files in your C:\ if you forgot to make a folder for it, you know which one I mean

I know exactly which one you mean, I know it far too well.

>>385644113
You did hear a public outrage when Vista came out. Win7 is literally just SP2 for Vista, combined with the fact that hardware caught up with the new HW requirements.

>>385643973
Well that sucks.

I have run SFC to check it for "violations" or whatever and cleaned my registry out and all that jazz.

Honestly it's only really an issue because I've become that guy that can instantly tell when the framerate and it nags the shit out of me. Games made in the past couple years have been totally fine except for the odd shitty PC port but that's not really MS's fault.

>>385641147
>free to play operating systems
>what could possibly go wrong?

lol no.

>>385644407
You did hear a public outrage when Vista came out.
But not windows 7
Win7 is literally just SP2 for Vista.
No.

>>385641147
Malware.

>>385641147
Inability to play old games

LTSB ! google it! all of you and never look back!

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The one quintessential truth.

>>385641618
Terrible design
Terrible search function
Terrible spybot

Everything it and 8 changed from 7 was for the worse

>Overwatch ran smooth 70fps before update
>now stutters like shit and downright unplayable
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>385644905
>Overwatch
>70fps

How old is your GPU?

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>>385644905
>70FPS
>smooth

>>385644905
Nvidia?

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>>385643031
No need to be smart to use it if even I can use get good at it. The thing to start learning is start using it. You know, like you did with windows when you were young.

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>>385645318
I'm playing on 900p it's not like I'm gonna see much difference. It's a 2gb gtx 960.

>tfw posting from NSA while using windows 10

I feel like a god, and you're all stupid for "muh privacy"

>>385645609
Am I still being monitored even if I'm not on burgerland?

>>385645562
Yeah. MS keeps changing some important things with updates and NVIDIA can't keep up with those changes. Their support forums is littered with similar complaints.

Hello Pahjeet!

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>>385641147
I've been using a pirated win10 on my new laptop since it doesn't support anything else. After a week of using it it honestly doesn't feel that different from 7. I've turned off updates and most of the privacy settings and I've had no issues so far.

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It works quite well desu, also I like the flat interface.

>>385645726
Depends on a whole bunch of factors, had to read the 300 page document about it and it was very enlightening.

>>385645956
Is it even worth fucking around with pirating windows?
Isn't the only thing you miss out on pirated vs non-pirated just some minor cosmetic settings?

>>385645828
The thread that started when the CU was implemented about how shit's fucked on the Geforce forums is still one of the most popular threads on the board.

Game mode was a mistake.

>>385641147
>"update to this thing"
>why
>"it's new"
>but I have to work to make it close to what I have now
>"but it's new"
neophillia is a mental disorder

>>385641618
-Bad UI design made with ascetics in mind but not productivity
-Lack of transparency on what information Windows actually mine (because disabling everything doesn't mean don't call home in windows lingo).
-Forced updates even when they don't fix security issues
-Major updates always break things/introduce bugs
-Bloated

i'm thinking of building a win10 PC only for gaming and another linux one just for everything else because i don't trust the botnet

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>>385641147

>>385646581
just do the gpu passover thing

>>385644532
>No
Yes
>inb4 but-
No

>>385646652
i don't even want them on the same machine, that's how little i trust it

>>385646726
Then why are you installing it at all?

>>385646680
Pretty sure vista was an attempt to switch to a new codebase but they fucked it up then switched to an older one with sp2

>>385646523
1) Still way better than Windows 7
2) They actually have a privacy policy, and you can see what kind of data Microsoft takes from telemetry. Guess what? Everything is non-personal data.
3)The only forced updates are security ones. You can easily avoid any feature updates on the Settings window.
4)Yeah dude, always
5)Way better than Windows 7

>>385646791
so i can play video games

>>385646821

"Guess what" isn't a question.

>>385641618
mobile UI
forced updates
forced telemetry
uwp "apps"
bloated

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Surveillance of any kind when it comes to my use on a computer is something I'm dead against.
Is it really mine, if I have to have someone watch what I'm doing, what I'm browsing, what I'm playing, what programs I'm using etc?

There's no point in even using a VPN that supports your freedom by deleting logs etc, if your OS already saves what you do and your internet activity.

>b-but I have nothing to hide, or I don't care what people see I'm doing
Then why even use an anonymous imageboard.

>>385646821
>5) way better than win7
win10 is win8.1 with more bloat stapled on to it and win8.1 is win8 with more bloat stapled on to it and win8 is win7 with more bloat stapled on to it

You aren't fooling anyone, everyone knows how microsoft works.
Idiocy, backstabbing, lack of communication, and other retardation is rampant in the management.

>>385641147
Haha

please die

Two control panels. The Settings section is terrible. Everything is fragmented interested different places that don't make sense. It's clear that there was no cohesive design. 8, 8.1, and 10 are just slapping slightly different interfaces over what is still mostly Vista/7 and it doesn't mesh well.

>>385643412
Not even true, I used Win 10 on a 80GB Hitachi with 50mb read speed max, It also makes coffee grinding noises whenever used.
So I can safely say it runs better than previous versions in therms of disk usage.

>>385642741
This. 4chan is a blight on the eyes unless you're using tomorrow.

>>385641147
Why doesn't anyone use Win10 LTSB ??
You get windows 10 without the spying or the bloatware (windows store, cortana, ads, etc...). I mean I would probably just use win 7 if I didn't have to use win 10 but if you need to use win 10 get the LTSB version, it's the way to go.

>>385642538
That start menu is terrible. You used to fit 30 programs in that same space you fit 8.

>>385641618
Forced updates
Forced updates that decide what is better for you (they're usually wrong)
User's configuration gets overridden by microsoft choices at random updates
Software incompatibility
Worse performance than its predecessor
Built-in ads
Screenshots taken at random intervals sent to microsoft
Microsoft discloses they can record voice clips at will and take random photos from yout webcam
Mistery 25mb packages uploaded at random intervals
Everything telemetry
Telemetry settings reenabling themselves due to the previous point
"Simplified" settings that remove user's control over certain aspects, excessive even for windows standards
Periodical microsoft "we have the resources so a lil bloat is acceptable" treatening to make now modern computers unusable further in time

"I cannot let you do that, Dave" is little by little becoming a reality

Imagine being so stupid you actually fell for the windows 10 meme

>>385643305
I haven't noticed any problems with disk usage on an SSD. Cortana and windows defender take 10 minutes tops to turn off. Forced updates can be turned off if you set it to a metered connection. Boring and awful design I can give you I guess but I kinda like the simplicity. Lot's of suspicious shit... yeah I guess.

It's not great but not half as bad as people make out.

>>385647718
>Screenshots taken at random intervals sent to microsoft

?

>>385641618
No AppLocale, have to use Locale Emulator instead.

It takes 30 fucking seconds to open folders for no reason with no other programs running
No its not my PC, i "upgraded" from windows 7

>>385647558
>subscription os

What's the best Tiny7 install?

>>385642538
>google chrome
lol

>>385647948
Puppy Linux

>>385641957
>I've heard a lot about disk usage problems.
Turn of all of the "diagnosis" stuff, usually fixes it
>I've also heard that Windows 10 has built-in ads.
Yes, but can be disabled
>I've also heard that it gives users less control over updates.
Forced updates

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>>385647102
>8.1
>More bloat than 7
You do realize that in benchmarks 8.1 performs better than 7 across the board, right?

8.1 is objectively the best version of windows right now

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>>385642878
>What's wrong with AMD cards?
Nothing

>>385647806
Microsoft Feedback
Which sometimes boots up even if you disabled it because microsoft magic

>>385641147
My Windows 10 gaming desktop completely freezes for no reason, almost always when it's idle and has to be hard rested at least once a day or two. Meanwhile my Linux Arch laptop has been on for 6 months straight with no reboot.

>>385641618
Latest update made it unable to list my printed when it worked during install.
Random hiccups
Suddenly games that worked just fine before are having issues that appeared years ago but got fixed eventually and workarounds that worked than don't work anymore.

I moved back to 7 where things are functional and stable even after all the updates. Wake me up when MS goes back to testing their shit before releasing to public.

>>385646821
>1) Still way better than Windows 7
Not by a far, and i do acknowledge that win7 made mistakes with the UI, especially in windows explorer.
Everything in Win10 has a ludicrous amount of padding for no fucking reason.

Starting with a fresh install of 7, should I leave as is or update until SP1 and then stop?

>>385649030
Update all the way through. The spying parts don't do anything unless you opt-in

>>385649240
update and make sure to disable the telemetry updates, there should be a list of these on /g/