Is there an actual reason as to why SJWs hate sexualized characters?

I read something about them being created by men and their ideas of what a woman should be. And that big tits cause self-image problems or something.

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Have you seen what the majority of SJWs look like?

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>>385637476
I came here to post this

>>385637335
>Ivy Valentine
She has a pretty good backstory

>>385637335
What is it with these faggots and making ugly shit compared to the originals

>>385637476
This. It's never a surprise.

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>posting haram redesgins

>>385637335
they don't really care they just want something to complain about so they can feel morally superior and like they've done something worthwhile for once in their lifes.

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>>385637653
Exactly, and all you hear about her being "hypersexualized".

>>385637476
/fucking thread

>>385637663
>I'm ugly so your fantasy must be about ugly
Self loathing and low self esteem m8.

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>>385637335
>Is there an actual reason as to why SJWs hate sexualized characters?

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Same with comics where they claim something about more realistic. Problem is they don't seem to take into account that the people they are fattening up exercise for fun.

>>385638349
>WHY CAN'T THEY LOOK LIKE ME? WHO IS THIS GAME TRYING TO APPEAL TO?? WELL, NOT ME, A REAL WOMAN

>>385637335
It's just not realistic. The figures those women have and the outfits they're in don't obey any sort of logic or rationality. A woman wouldn't want to fight in a bikini, especially a bikini which physically cannot stay attached to her body.

It's about a movement to make art and culture depict the world as it really is, even in fantasy. Without any grounding in our real, lived-in world, media has no purpose. It's just masturbation material. The reason why SJWs want more women, more people of color, women of different shapes and sizes, is because they want people to see the world for how it really is.

Their core belief is this: Western culture has been selling a lie of white male dominance. It has been lying to people for generations and actually convincing them that white people are better than others, and that men are better than women. The way you destroy a lie is with the truth, and a commitment to realism in all things.

>>385638352
She's a fighter.

A good one.

Said to be the best female fighter in the world.

You literally CAN'T be fat and have that title.

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>>385638594
I don't play games to be confronted with reality. Especially if it's a fucking rpg or fighting game.

>>385638594
Which is fucking retarded, because fiction is fiction and reality is reality.
There's no point of justifying it, because it will always scream "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE".
There's no point for corporations to change their products in ways, where they not only lose their regular costumers, but fail to attract people who were there just to complain and would never buy those products in the first place.

Do you actually want the reason or do you just want a few people to circlejerk with about how angry you are about people you disagree with?

>>385637335
Cause they cannot compare.

>>385637929
I love Ivy but her IV costume was fucking tacky. I was so glad they found a proper balance for her in V but too bad that game was total shit and looked to kill the series.

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Because they see it like how /v/ sees blacks in games. Instead of seeing it as just another vidya character they see it as a political/sexist/racist movement against them. Both /v and the sjws they hate act so similar I'm getting Pocahontas vibes

>>385638594
But I don't care about realism in Soul Calibur. To be honest, when I first played SC2 when I was 10, I picked Talim because she was cute. As I got older, I was interested in the story and found Ivy's life, he guilt for unknowingly aiding in the villains and wanted to destroy everything related to the evil sword Soul Edge, was interesting. She's not evil, but she isn't nice, either.
Plus I'm kinda gay and I'd look at Nightmare's butt in the character creation after stripping him naked, so Ivy didn't really affect me that way.

>>385638349
I just realized I never saw any of these "people" ever just smiling for the camera, like a normal person.

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>>385639293
All the lewd bara men you could make with Create-A-Soul

best thing ever, I wish the series would get revived ;_;

>/v/ with sexy characters
>"the game developers can make whatever they want because it's a video game."
>/v/ with non-whites in vidya
>"FUCKIN BLACKS IN MY VIDYA DON'T YOU KNOW THEY DO X?! WE CAN ONLY HAVE REALISTIC DEPICTIONS IN GAMES

just change /v/ to sjws and change blacks to men or some shit

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>>385638594
>It's just not realistic.

>game relies heavily on fanservice rather than actual gameplay or story qualities
>call it shit because of being too fanservice focused
>get called sjw by virgins

>>385637335
How does Felcia's glasses stay on when her ears are on top of her head?

>>385639161
>/v
>>>/plebbit/

>>385637335
As in legitimate? Not really. It's more of a power trip than anything else. The only argument they can actually present is inconsistency within a fictional world.

Otherwise they just want to feel better about themselves without putting any effort into anything. Why improve yourself when you can "change expectations" by typing into your phone?

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>>385639363
They couldn't smile normally even if they tried, is always irony or scorn or just a neutral kinda forced smile with sad eyes.

>>385638691
You also can't be thin. In order to be that good of a fighter she needs way more muscle mass which would make her look shorter and stockier. Her original character design has the proportions of a supermodel--a person who literally starves themselves to the point of fainting in order to maintain a waifishly thin figure. Tifa, by contrast, would need to eat a tremendous amount of calories to keep her body in fighting condition.

>>385638803
>>385638896
All you're saying is, "I enjoy masturbating". Congratulations. Everyone does. You're not special.

If you want something to be meaningful it must transcend beyond masturbation. It must depict something real and important to the world we live in. This is not a new idea--if anything it is an extension of the realism of Andre Bazin in the 50s and 60s. Bazin made films with minimal editing or direction, used natural lighting and hired non-actors and gave them scripts with only rough outlines of what their characters were supposed to do. Oftentimes, he would not even direct a scene, he'd merely find an interesting vista while walking around with a camera, set up his tripod, and film it. Bazin wanted nothing more than to capture the world, as it was, in a meaningful way.

>>385639498
>not knowing how to fire energy projectiles from your hands

>>385639490
That's literally the brain dead poltards. Only idiots don't allow themselves the pleasure of delicious brown.

>>385637335
Because they only see other women as sexual objects to degrade and shame.

>>385637335
>implying sjw-chan isn't cute.

>>385639619
She's NOT thin, she has muscle-tone, and lots of it. In order to be strong, like world class strong, you have to eat, and you have to grow strong. If she has ANY body fat, I'd be surprised, but that's often how most fighters look.

The left is infinitely more realistic than the right, and you're insane if you think otherwise.

>>385639510
there are plenty of games that have both fanservice and good gameplay m8.
One does not stop the other from being there.

See: the vast majority of fighting games.

>>385638352
The one on the right looks like an MMA fighter. It isn't unrealistic to redesign the body to those proportions, that's what a muscular woman looks like.

>>385639510
>call a fanservice game shit for being a fanservice game
>not being an sjw faggot

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>>385639750

>>385637734
So close, but music is haram.

>>385639769
The left is pencil-thin and too lanky. That's the body of a swimmer or maybe a long distance runner, not a fighter. If you want to fight you need bulk and you need power.

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>>385637476

And don't ever hold back with this truth.

>>385638352
Well she is way too lanklet. Her legs are too far apart to even mount properly to her hips and her arms are comically thin. That's the point though, all of the characters were caricatured.

>>385639750
There is no such thing.

>>385640212
>>385639832

>>385639619
>If you want something to be meaningful
It's video games.

>>385639832
Does she have a cold?

>>385639832
>tfw this is exactly my type
Wake me up

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>>385637335
Is there an actualy reasy as to why pissbabies make 100 threads a day about what SJWs hate?

>>385638352
There was no point in shortening her or reducing her breasts. The gut doesn't bother me too much as it isn't pronounced, but looks far too soft. The face was broadened too dramatically, it wouldn't be that size even with the new weight. The legs and arms are fine

3/10 nonsensical redesign.

>>385639619
>You're not special.
Point out where exactly any of us stated we felt we're special in regards to this?

>>385640275
Now do it in 3D faggot. Also, not the point.

Because they don't like it. I know a lot of obese women who think Bayonetta's great because she makes them feel strong, sexy and in control. Fantasy is fun. At the same time I understand that if youcreate a game with major emphasis on realism and then have a titty warrior it looks pretty dumb. However, if I want to play a game of total fantastical representations of things that are and are not real then I don't care, give me liberty or give me death. If i'm playing a game like The Witcher, which I mention due to its somewhat realistic portrayal of the peoples and locations of Poland and the encroaching states nearby then I would also like my weapons and armour to look somewhat realistic. In most cases they do, even for the few female knoghts/soldiers/warriors. The same could be said, relatively speaking, of armour in the base versions of FO3/NV/4, where I believe that for the most part aside from added titty space the armours are more or less appropriate for both genders, barring the stuff like raider gear which is very much meant to look like slapped together madman stuff. I don't blame them for not wanting bikinimail, but I also wish they wouldn't blame us for wanting a game where every character is a ____ of fantastical bullshit. Have you seen the Dwarf in Dragon's Crown? Or the Fighter? The fighter has never once done leg day.

>>385640591
Is "pissbabies" the new "shitlords"?

>>385638594
Reality is disgusting and i want my games to be idealized and perfect, so sjws should shut up

>>385640838
Nah, and honestly I don't mind. Gotta have some way to vent. I find it similar to saying nigger or jews, where eventually if you use it too often as a catch all of things you don't like it makes your arguments look a lot less valid. I still laugh when someone gets upset at the word nigger on the internet and if I were them i'd probably laugh at someone getting upset by the word shitlord, too.

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>>385640746
>Or the Fighter?
For all the complaints the Sorceress and Amazon got, no one complained about the Fighter despite him being probably the most deformed out of the entire cast.

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>>385638594
>It's just not realistic
>lying to people that men are better than women

I'd love to see women represented realistically in a fighting game. I'm sure that would go over very well with the SJW's when they see how well an actual woman takes an uppercut to the chin.

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>The only one redesigning your waifu into a worse design is the developers
Feels bad

>>385641102
I mean almost everyone in Dragon's Crown looks off, but the art is so lovingly done that I let it slide. Like the homeless dude looks like some sort of fucking hell spawn from the way he's curled up but whatever. Even wizard man has more wrinkles than my ballsack but he's still cool to look at. And people have every right to be offended by it. I just don't think you have a right to call the devs bad people or ask for it to be removed because you don't like it. I don't like that dad dating sim since it isn't my cup of tea by any means but fucking make as many as you can, if someone's willing to buy. Everyone has a right to an opinion.

>>385638594
>A woman wouldn't want to fight in a bikini, especially a bikini which physically cannot stay attached to her body.
Except Felcia's bikini is physically attached to her body what with it being made of fur.

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lol

>>385637335
They think that if girls see it and realize they're nowhere near as hot, it will make them have lower self esteem. The theory is that sexy characters hurt girls emotionally just by existing.

>>385639619
What a fart sniffer

>>385637335
There was a thread last week that posted gender difference gaming stuff which also said females have a significantly stronger need to be able to identify with the main character while men don't really care.

The people that complain about these characters do they actually buy the game or do they just complain because at the end of the day the fans are the real voice in this matter. People who aren't even interested come in and spew this shit when they can't even correct real life problems are kinda pathetic .

>>385641438
Darkstalkers is a bad talking point for both sides. Have you seen the fish man? He's fucking gorgeous. Fucking Queen B is also some horrific anglerfish of a bee that still makes me queasy. Like they're meant to be pretty. Basically everyone is. Talbain, fur aside, is buff and lean. The only one I can think of that's actually "ugly" is Raptor because he's a fucking skeleton with hair. Even Frankenstein is an attractive-ish character.

>>385637734
>the guitar
oh kek

>>385639657
>le delicious brown
Is it scary, calling them black?

>>385642093
top right girl looks like she's from a poorly rendered game

>>385637335
If there a man wearing full armour and the woman is wearing a bikini or something that barely passes for clothes it says something about the artists views of women. Now if both the men and women are impractivally sexualized beyond belief then no problemo.

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Why do we need to have a thread like this everyday? Do you people of /v/ suffer of alzheimer so you forget the exact same shit that people say in every ant-SJW thread?

>>385638594
Creating realism in fantasy destroys the entire point of fantasy. People know it isn't realistic and that's why they like fantasy.

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>>385642401
What if one of them was a midget?

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>>385637335
>Is there an actual reason as to why SJWs hate sexualized characters?

Yes, envy.

>>385642401
It says nothing of the artists view of women. They draw what they think looks cool and what they think will sell. Sex sells.

>>385642401
>If there a man wearing full armour and the woman is wearing a bikini or something that barely passes for clothes it says something about the artists views of women.

What, that he's sexually attracted to them and not men?

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By moses, jesus, muhammed, buddha and every single fucking thing that's holy
i seriously cannot understand you people

Will you not rest until every single vidya character is a sexualized moeblob?
will you not rest until every fucking game is senran kagura?

I hate SJWs more than you'll ever will, but that's not an SJW complaint that's a fucking common sense complaint
Games relying on cleavage, fapbait and moeshit are garbage games
When i play a videogame i expect myself to shoot, stab enemies and do generally epic shit. not stare at tits all day because i'm trying to fight my erectile dysfunction

If you want to jerk off so goddamned bad get a brazzers subscription, or better yet fuck off to gelbooru, it's free. stop shoving porn up my vidya and let devs decide what the fuck to do, i want good gameplay not oversized tits fapbait

>>385637335
I mean i wouldn't be bothered by clothed versions of sexy characters, but that's assuming the average tumblrite had actual drawing skills and their versions of characters didn't look like they were scribbled on a napkin

>>385642626
But 4chan is envious of ""chads"" and ""nornalfags"" too. Everyone's got insecurities.

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>>385638594
>It's about a movement to make art and culture depict the world as it really is, even in fantasy.
Does that mean we'll finally get JRPG protagonists that don't look like Gackt?

>>385638594
>The reason why SJWs

I know you are trying to pretend... lets say neutrality but drop the shit and just "we" instead of SJWs.

>>385642851
All male MCs will now look like Jack Black. He's a realistic looking man.

>>385642718
>Implying every single game in existence contains the stuff you said
Are you legitimately retarded? You got plenty of games already where you can avoid that stuff. Don't touch or ask to remove the stuff you don't like if it doesn't affect you.

>>385637476
Yep.

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>>385642969
I accept your proposal.

>>385637335
It's the internet, everyone complains.

>>385643007
name one japanese game that doesn't do this

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>>385638594
>Muh realism

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>why do ugly, fat feminist whales hate attractive women

>>385642969
Imagine if Noctis did look like Jack Black. Bunch of twink friends but you're rich, and a prince, so you can just do whatever the fuck you want. That would honestly have been a better setup

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>>385642851
>finally

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>>385642721
>nothing like
>looks very similar

>>385642850
I wonder which one started demanding changes to games (that they dont play), comics (that they dont read: tumblr fan), movies (that they don't watch) and every form of art (that they can't appreciate) to fix their agenda...

If you want to be schooled in fiction and fantasy just play Danganronpa V3. Fiction is wonderful. The story continues in your heart.

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>>385643107
Quoting your original post:
>When i play a videogame i expect myself to shoot, stab enemies and do generally epic shit. not stare at tits all day because i'm trying to fight my erectile dysfunction
Then play only western shooters and shut the fuck up.
While I would agree that it's probably trash for virginfaggots, I see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed.
The fact that I don't like or am not interested in something doesn't mean there's no place in the market for such products.

I don't know why nu/v is so fuckin conservative and moralist that any bullshit is a trigger

The only thing worse than weebs who fap to this shit are assholes like you who think the world should revolve around their personal taste.
Also, the most popular and relevant japanese videogames are made to appeal to western prudes like you, Dark Souls and Metal Gear for example.

>>385638594
Yes but sex is also part of reality. And there isn't anything wrong with sex. Having women or men represented sexually isn't bad or immoral, unless you subscribe to puritanical beliefs. At the end of the day, people are attracted to attractive people/characters -- and that's not bad. I don't have any problem with strong female characters personally, in fact I typically prefer them as long as they're done well. And of course I don't want every character sexualized, but if a woman can be both strong and sexual then that is an awesome representation of a character. Same with men, of course, but I just don't see men as attractive usually. But that's a personal thing.

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>>385638594
Years ago I would have said that this was bait. Now I know is just reality.

>>385637335
Judith is one of my favorite characters so I have no problem with skin or tiddys.
That said, if I see bikini armor and panty shots for no reason other than to make the player get a boner, it takes me out of what I'm playing.

I think everyone has a line where suspending disbelief becomes too much. And where that line is depends on what you've been exposed to throughout your life.

For SJWs, every game just looks like compile heart trash.

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>>385643357
>if you don't like forced porn in vidya, play another game
>but if i see a game's fanbase shitting on it's forced porn i won't switch games, i'll throw a shitfit on /v/
you're shit

>>385642718
>swearing on Muhammad
Baka kuffar, can't even shitpost properly

>>385643179
Both but they rightfully ignore the fuck on here

>>385643357
>shits on devs who make characters ugly and censor
>see no reason to shit on devs who make their games a proto-porn game without any real substance except moeshit waifus and titties
1.you're thinking with your dick
2.this is a case of doublethink

>>385643617
Yes, if you don't like any game is not call of fuckign duty, then stick to your LE EPIC STAB AND SHOOT while i stick to my LE VEERGEEN GAYM.

Satisfied of the dumbed down explanation or i need to simplify it even more?
Until i see a photo of someone pointing a gun to yout head forcing you to play those games that you don't like, everything you said or you will say belong in the shit and shouldn't be listened.

>>385644118
Where did i shit on western games, mongoloid?
Do you think /v/ is one person?

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>>385637476

>>385644118
Not him but
>shits on devs who make characters ugly and censor
What is wrong with that? Is there any logical reason to do or defend such thing?

>>385644119
> LE EPIC STAB AND SHOOT
violence exists in 99% of games, are you some VNtard?

>Until i see a photo of someone pointing a gun to yout head forcing you to play those games that you don't like, everything you said or you will say belong in the shit and shouldn't be listened.
then don't go apeshit if some dev decides to censor muh secksy characters and switch games like i'll do

>>385644118
This thread starts with Darkstalkers and KOF, neither of which are porn games.

>>385644226
Generalizing always leads to ignorant statements

>>385637476
REKT
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>>385644332
You have the freedom to shit on them all you want, it's preference but it's got not real connection to the gameplay

overemphasising on character design brings us to shites like senran kagura or nier automata. shallow games that only sold because muh dick

>>385644339
>99% of games
Not true, and i can see where such opinion comes from
>then don't go apeshit if some dev decides to censor muh secksy characters and switch games like i'll do
The "porn games" you are talking about are the small minority of the entire industry of videogames, keep playing your shooters and fuck off.

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>>385644521
More plz

>>385642721
lmao

>>385637335
i dont care but i do hate furries though

>>385644531
>MUH 2 GAMES NOW MEANS THAT EVERY GAME IS LIKE THAT
Do you ever hear yourself? How can you not laugh while typing such a mass of bullshit?

>>385644118
No, since the other anon thinks that fancervice is merely a distraction and shouldn't be included in a game in the first place, that anon suggested that he plays video games that doesn't have fanservice instead, like most western shooters for example. It's a perfectly reasonable and obvious response.

>>385644531
>best story this generation
>shallow

SJWs are literally crying

>>385639832
>not ugly
>not fat
ye sure...

>>385644118
>If a game has a thing I dislike, it has no substance
That's not how it work, tranny scum.

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They won last time...

>>385644615
>Not true, and i can see where such opinion comes from

>FPS game
>shoots niggers to death
>RPG game
>stab niggers to death, shoot them with bows or destroy them with magic
>hack and slash game
>do i need to describe it?
>platformer games (or at least the ones that matter)
>jump on niggers and stomp them
>stealth games
>sneak up on niggers and stab them/shoot them
>fighting games
>no description needed
>survival game
>shoot/bludgeon niggers with scavenged weapons

these are the 99% of games that include violence, the rest 1% are racing games and VNs (VNs aren't real games though)

>>385637335
MUH AGENCY
MUH STANDARDS

>>385645120
Arguably, even racing games and VNs can have violence in them, depending on your definition of violence.

>>385645120
The hell are you on about?
Violence and videogames go hand in hand

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>>385644293
This genuinely makes me miss this, because in comparison, pic related actually feels like they have some hygiene and grooming standards.

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Murricunt's cult of ugliness is getting out of hand.

>>385637335
Does Felicia use normal toilets or do she just shits where ever she wants?

>>385645120
There is merely any trace of gore or blood in Jrpgs and fighting games.
>jump on niggers and stomp them
>Stomping with comicsl sound right after is now violence
So by the same logic animal crossing is violent because you can cut down trees...

>>385640520
No, it's just a case of tumblr nose.

>>385639543
how do you answer emails with boxing gloves on?

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So guys, lets recap.

1930+: National Legion of Decency against movies
1950+: CCA against comics
1980+: Gore's wife PMRC against Metal.
2000+: Jack Thompson against videogames
2010+: Anita and troop against videogames (The Revenge) and everything else

What will be the target in the next decade?

>>385645380
Shes a nun aswell dud

>>385645369
>Those fucking pants
For what purpouse?

>>385637335
fucking atrocious Felicia, goddamn

i mean, she looks like she goes to college or some shit

>>385645045
>>385644901
>>385644760
>>385644615
>>385644119
Look at all these weebs coming out of the woodwork
i'm going to make a clear point.

"muh secksy character design" should be ignored by devs altogether

First, just like the story it distracts them from making decent gameplay or content (Content and decent gameplay negatively correlates with how much moe a game has)

Second, it only brought the miserable thinly veiled rule34 threads, fuck that shit.

Third,it the more weebs buy into that shit the more it breeds moeshit "games" and makes real decent japanese games go extinct (remember when MGS was decent and not just entirely focused on joosten's fucking feet?)

My points are irrefutable.

>>385645610
>Being this mad on a chinese carton website

>>385645317
>>385645298
Exactly my point but the weeb i'm replying to thinks otherwise

>>385637335
Considering how shallow and annoying are their heroines (Aloy, the two teenager from Life is Strange and so on) I really don't know. I mean, Bayonetta personality, just to say one random character, is way better.

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>>385641052
>mfw SJWs say "piss your pants" because "kill yourself" is too triggering

>>385645504
2020+ People for the ethical treatment of fuckable robots.

>>385645504
Books, although that isn't new.

>>385645545
Aerodynamics.

>>385645610
>First, just like the story it distracts them from making decent gameplay or content (Content and decent gameplay negatively correlates with how much moe a game has)

It's like for you artist (the ones that design the characters) are the same people that writers and programmers...

>My points are irrefutable.
Like a true SJW.

Because SJWs want everything to pander to them. Doesn't matter what it is, it has to pander to their little group. Look at what happened to Marvel when they pandered to their group, they ended up losing money and their loyal fans because they listened. Never listen to a SJW, ever. Nothing makes them happy.

>>385645695
i just wrote this post in less than a minute in my bathroom, it does not require me to be angry or to be a genius to quickly trash your weeb dreams

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>>385645610
Yes, remember when MGS was anime and not /tv/ degeneracy.
Your cherry picking is typical.
Also this is a weeb neighborhood, scum.

>>385645610
How can someone be so autistic to think that having attractive female characters cuases these insignificant issues

>>385645834
>expecting SJWs to know anything about game development at all

>>385645852
>in my bathroom

Still filling your head with you own organic waste?

>>385645610
>>385645709
>Replying to an irrational shitposter who is most probably baiting ,makes you a weeb
Could you just fuck off? Like, for real, you can kick and scream like a child all you want for 200 posts but when the thread will be archived everyone will just go back to jack off to cartoon characters.
You are literally wasting your time.

>>385645369
Late 90s and early 00s you were cringy, but we never knew how bad things would actually get.

>>385645545
Baggy was the style, back when nobody wanted to wear pants tight enough to compress their balls.

>>385645834
>It's like for you artist (the ones that design the characters) are the same people that writers and programmers...

>implying artists decide to draw tits on their own
>implying it's not the designers that come up with this, distracting them from thinking more about the game mechanics
>implying a game doesn't have a specific budget that the designers throw entirely on artists to draw their knockers instead of spending it on more content

>i know nothing about game design and i must shitpost: the post

>>385645852
>In my bathroom
Making this website accessible to cancerous teenagers was a fucking mistake. I hope that summer ends quickly so that you'll have to fuck off back to school.

>>385645610
>Content and decent gameplay negatively correlates with how much moe a game has
Aesthetics are important. "Content and gameplay" are nothing without decent aesthetics (for non-autists at least). Sexy characters make games better.

>>385646167
>i know nothing about game design and i must shitpost: the post

Are you talking in front of a mirror or something?

>>385637476
This.

It's creepy that a few ugly shitheads want to completely control what everyone watches.

I don't believe I've ever seen someone explain how sexy = sexist, they always just claim it does.

>>385638352
I don't take issue with these redesigns. As you can see at the bottom these are designed to help people with actual eating disorders

>>385645860
I always thought this dude was a third worlder

>>385639805
She looks like a chubby who's had a bit too many cookies and soft drinks.

A fighter would have a similar amount of fat, but their body would be more well toned.

>>385646081
>nobody wanted to wear pants tight enough to compress their balls.
I understand that preference and I even don't wear that shit myself, but when I think of baggy pants I didn't picture them so loose that you could share them with another guy at the same time.

It's not, strictly speaking, the presense of sexualized women.

It's the overuse of them in each game to the point of near every single female character being sexualized.

Lets take ARMs for an example. Twintelle is a very sexualized character. But shes not complained about really (in b4 somebody posts 1 or two of a minority of tumblr posts). Because none of the other female characters in ARMS are sexualized.

>>385646167
Jesus, I did't know artists made so much money in games.

>>385638594

>big tits aren't realistic

well that's fucking funny. I can't think of a single sjw with anything above a mild C cup that isn't a landwhale. Sounds like some major boob envy to me.

>>385639490

>MUH COMPARITIVE REALITY

Stop imposing your delusions onto unrelated things faggot.

>>385646358
But that's been going on for ages in LA, anon.

>>385646532
List games that have every female character sexualized please. Fighting games don't count.

>>385638594
>realistic
>fantasy

I know they have no actual, real logic to their ideals but god damn. I'd ask if you could get any more retarded but it's still very possible, I'm sure of it.

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>>385646260
>"Content and gameplay" are nothing without decent aesthetics
not that guy but holy shit, this is the mentality of a weeb

>>385638594
These are the protagonist of fantasy settings where magic and shit is real. They're SUPPOSED to be larger than life, paragons of masculinity or
You're too self-absorbed and insecure to notice the intent of the art, but that doesn't make it bad art.

>>385641823

>females have a significantly stronger need to be able to mary sue themselves so they pretend they are better than they actually are while men just want to play the fucking game

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>>385637335
Physical appearance is a huge part of a character's design. So if a character is heavily sexualized in their design, sex is a big part of their character (even if it doesn't match their personality or actions).

The theory goes that the media we consume influences what we consider acceptable. If all of our media presents female characters as hypersexualized pieces of eye candy, then it becomes the norm for women to appear sexual and be eye candy.

The SJW extrapolates two ideas from this. 1) they believe that this will lead men to treat women purely as sexual objects. 2) they believe women will accept that and be reduced to nothing more than sexualized objects.

It's the same general thought process of Christian fundamentalists who believe that Satanic imagery will cause you to become a satanist, causing them to ban Harry Potter and Pokemon.

>>385646926
Your old games haven't disappeared anon, if you hate modern JRPGs go play older ones. I'm sure that there are some old JRPGs you haven't played yet.

>>385639619
You're attempting to change videogames from entertainment born in mostly fictitious settings into realism-appropriate media.

It won't work. Ever. The free market dictates what survives and SJWs don't buy videogames. And they certainly don't have to, and devs can continue to attempt to appeal to this nonexistent market, but they won't find success.

Trying to turn videogames into ideological propaganda will always be met with opposition.

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>>385645834
>>385645860
>>385645931
>>385646061
>>385646260
>2 of these posts were ad hominems
>the rest cherrypick the point they want to refute, ignoring the rest

The only reason I got is they're jealous of pixels

I mean, where's the line between an "empowered" female who likes to dress scantily and muh male gaze? It's all arbitrary bullshit.

>>385639619
Someone literally forgot what the fuck is escapism.

Realism is like salt and fantasy is sugar.
They should be spice/flavoring/sauce you use to give a flavor to your work, not be the main purpose of it.
As an weeaboo i see the western work too salty for me but it's getting worse. It is becoming just a big block of SJW salt.

We are not playing vidya for preaching, we are playing to enjoy.
I read a book for that and your book I will not read.

>>385646926
The person who made tha pic clearly doesn't know that weaboo is term used to refer to literally ANYTHING from japan, it doesn't matter how much " moe" it is.

>>385642401

>it says something about the artists views of women

no it doesn't you fucking idiot. If I draw porn for a living that doesn't mean I'm super perverted that just I understand how human anatomy works or pander to a certain demo. Notice how most people that are commissioned ponyshit aren't bronies themselves.

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>>385639490
>/v/ with sexy characters
>"the game developers can make whatever they want because it's a video game."
>dev: I like sexy girls

>/v/ with non-whites in vidya
>"FUCKIN BLACKS IN MY VIDYA DON'T YOU KNOW THEY DO X?! WE CAN ONLY HAVE REALISTIC DEPICTIONS IN GAMES
>dev: It's important for us to deliver a message, MULTI ETHNIC MULTI CULTURAL SOCIETY, girls needs good roles models, I think it's unrealistic when characters are attracted to people of the other sex, black were a central part in WWII since they were the one that stopped Hitler, this is the first FULLY GAY charactert, Greeks were in reality blacks.

>>385647254
>The person who made tha pic clearly doesn't know that weaboo is term used to refer to literally ANYTHING from japan
toppest of keks

>>385647108
>want to refute

Didnt you say your point were irrefutable? Are you... doubting now?

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>>385647336
>>385639490
>Le /v/ is one person meme
Could you please just die?

>>385647254
kys newfag

>>385647336
Idiots exist everywhere anon, but not all people are necessarily idiots.

>>385637335
Why the fuck do they even care
1. They don't play videogames
2. If I want to play escapism with girls with big titties, let me

>>385638594
>>385639293
Also notice how Talim is not white and not a men. Just to say to that SJW retard "play the game before talk".

>>385643389

>someone asks if she believes her own bullshit
>FUCK OFF UGH
>she literally admits she never gave a fuck about vidya prior and was just using it as a vehicle

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>>385639832
I don't like this kind of hair.
Looks like something from fist of north star enemies. Just longer.

>>385647254
Using the term weeb or weeaboo has completely lost its original meaning. It didn't mean that at all.

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>>385647384
Please, tell me what "weeaboo" means for you, because i know for sure that you are 15 and you first heard it by Filthy Frank.

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>Sociology class
>My big project for the semester is a video response to video done by another student about "sexism in video games"
>Blow them out so fucking hard that we just so happened to "not have enough time this semester" to show my video in class like everyone else

best feeling desu

>>385647497
Are you using drugs again?

>>385647564
>Le kys
Oh right, you are physically incapable of typing "kill yourself" from you phone, underage cancer.

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>>385637476
Fucking this

>>385647091
>The free market dictates what survives and SJWs don't buy videogames.

Except that this is the exact opposite of reality?

The "SJWs" are winning this argument over video games and other media. The entertainment companies are going along with them, *and making money off it.*

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>>385647627
>urbandictionnary
fuck out of here

>>385647749
>Not answering question but leashign out your frustration
Way to admit that you don't know it, newfag.

>>385647336
>literally announces their hypocrisy
>thinks they are defending their position

It always makes me smile to see these people betray themselves and their "agenda" the moment they open their mouths.

>>385647729
Honestly I kinda wish these new buzzwords would get filtered or are considered to be spam by the site, would make millenials pretty mad.

>>385637335
>Is there an actual reason as to why SJWs hate sexualized characters?
Bigotry. Plain and simple.
50 years ago it was justified because "muh morals", but since now "muh morals" is too dated, they switched to something more modern like "muh objectification".

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>>385647749
This image is probaly older then you.

>>385647749
Although urbandictionary is cancer, the definition is correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>385646167
Jesus, your ignorance of how artists and development crews do business is fucking astounding.

Do yourself a favor and don't just assume shit, do some actual research to make your points, you look like a fucking retard and it's embarrassing.

In all seriousness, a lot of them are Sex Negative Feminists. They hate human sexuality.

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>>385638594
If these games were realistic there wouldn't be any female fighters.

>>385645042
>not ugly
Holy shit how low is your standards??

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>>385647749
>fuck out of here
Hmmm I remember a place were people post like that.

>>385647627

weeaboo is a nonsense term. it means nothing. but since you asked it was used for complete japanophiles, you know the GRORIOUS NIPPON type who don't understand thing one about it's history or culture outside of what they hear in rheir JAPANESE ANIMES, can't understand a character of the language other than common catchphrases and memes while awkwardly trying to insert it into english. You know that type.

>>385647461
Mental gymnastics are not refuting

The first guy says artists are not programmers, implying that game designers do not exist and that artists draw whatever the hell they want, wrong, it's because if the designer fills the game with tits and ass then that's 100% it's main appeal, see senran kagura or skullgirls, and implies he gives no real shit about gameplay, both of those games are just watered down fighting games with no substance other than yay tiddies

Second anon gets that i think having attractive characters is mutually exclusive with, not having any weeb issues, entirely missing the point

Last guy says muh aesthetics (doesn't know shit about aesthetics, he thinks aesthetics exist solely as moeshit, despite that Dark souls 2, AC2 and lots of other games look awesome and unique without midget girls with oversized eyes)

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>>385648126
I can't even begin to imagine the issues you need to have to hate sex.
Then again I unironically gave up actual women for cartoons so I probably shouldn't talk

>>385648228
>fighting games now force players to pick character who are within the same weight class

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Help me guys since I can't decide. Cute girls or sexy girls?

>>385639805
>SJWs actually believe this

MMA fighters are /fit/ not skinny-fat, you utter tool.

>>385637335
Because third wave feminists are not for equality but emasculating men since they hate anything that reminds them of men including big tits which in turn reminds of no man wanting them because of their shitty personality.

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>>385639619
That is "too thin"? Look, actual stronger female fighter and Tifa.
Then look at the right of this >>385638352 and tell me how Ronda looks more alike.

>>385648325

>lots of other games look awesome and unique without midget girls with oversized eyes

gonna need a bigger lens for that PROJECTION SON! Fuck off entryfag.

Op if you honestly want answers to these questions then the reactionary cesspool that is /v/ is the worst place to get them.

Try actually asking an actual feminist. Or reading some books and/or articles about it.

>>385648338
It's not that they hate sex, they hate sexuality.

>>385647384
>>The person who made tha pic clearly doesn't know that weaboo is term used to refer to literally ANYTHING from japan

>proceeds to refute his point in here>>385647627

/v/, the home of retardation

>>385643083
Jack Black looks like a fat faggot, not like that beast.

>>385648425

>third wave feminists want even more free shit despite already playing the game of life on easy mode

fixed

>>385642721
>cartoon caricature of an ugly person caricatures their ugliness
>it's transphobic because they're trans

IIRC the cartoon didn't make any trans jokes at all, they just made her stupid and funny looking like they do with all celebrities.

Do these people realize that by demanding special treatment like this it just makes people hate them more?

>>385648559
No they don't.

They criticize the excessive focus on heterosexual male sexuality while ignoring and/or outright attacking other forms of sexuality.

>>385648606
>suggesting that fat faggots can't also be beasts
Don't make me break out the Morenatsu on your ass.

>>385648546
The weeb implied that games can't look good without moeshit, which is wrong
there's no projection here

>>385647748
>The "SJWs" are winning this argument over video games and other media.
They aren't though, you're just only paying attention to the west.

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>>385648338
But not even people you hate sex, right? ,you just hate the shallow bitches irl I pressume.

>>385648427

>using Ronda unironically as an example of a realistic strong female

you fell for the Dana Ruse Cruise.

>>385648735
>sexy costume
>excessive focus

It's like words meaning are changing everyday.

>>385637335
Felicia doesn't make much sense to begin with, but now her claws are part of a turtleneck?

How is that an improvement in any way? My benis is miserable and I'm more confused than ever

>>385639619
I don't know if this is bait or you're just retarded, but you really need to educate yourself about muscle biology and human physiology.

>>385639363
>>385639615
Its a sign of very slow self esteem, they probably can't stand looking in the mirror. Unsurprisingly a lot of these people have underlying mental health issues and are probably victims of bullying at school.

Which is why they now bully others under the guise of social justice.

>>385648786
No they're winning in the east too.

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>listening to SJWs, ever

>>385645610
How are they irrefutable when Automata had the best gameplay of any game released in the year?

>>385641163
But men ARE better than women.

>But women are cute
No, you just happen to be ugly.

>>385637335
Women have an instinctual reaction to perceived competition.
Men will say anything to sleep with women.
/thread.

>>385638594
A woman wouldn't want to fight in a turtleneck either. Your argument is invalid

>>385648735
lel who gives a fuck about faggots or whatever your adrogynousgenderqueerattackhelicopterfaggolia sexuality is, they're less than 1% of the population

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>>385648903
>winning in the east
>there are popular commercial games where you can actively rape

>>385638594
>selling a lie of white male dominance.

The basic idea of these guilt movements is undermined by the basic hypocrisy of their message. Yet they never see it.

>>385647336
>>385639490
more like
>/pol/ with black characters
>"FUCKIN BLACKS IN MY VIDYA DON'T YOU KNOW THEY DO X?! WE CAN ONLY HAVE REALISTIC DEPICTIONS IN GAMES
>/pol/ with female characters, sexy or not
>FUCKIN WOMYN IN MY VIDYA DON'T YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T DO X?! WE CAN ONLY HAVE REALISTIC DEPICTIONS IN GAMES

stop confusing /v/ with /pol/, you mong

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>>385642576
Get your male power fantasies out of here!

>>385648920
>How are they irrefutable when Automata had the best gameplay of any game released in the year?
reskinned MGRR is not the "best" gameplay

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I honestly hate sexualized women, but for a completely different reason. It has absolutely nothing to do with MUH MALE GAZE, or MUH PATRIARCHY. I just hate when game devs use sex to hide bad gameplay, or they sell their game on that premise, or they waste my precious time and money making a masturbatory porn novel and then sell it as a full priced game. It gets worse if the cancer infects what was once a good game, or they ruin a series that did have a decent looking woman by turning her into fap fuel and gutting the gameplay for their own sexual drive.

It's why I, to this day, refuse to consider game with over-sexual women to be good. Let's just say they ruined one series too many for me.

>>385648903
If japan can't survice the infection until 2020 the subsequent reaction will reestablish the order.

>>385648770

he infered that they couldn't if they were moeshit. Fine. You implied the possibility of the complete opposite. Just as bad.

>>385648920
yoko taro is a fucking hack

>>385649076
I'm with you. And its like impossible to tell that to people because they will just start calling you a beta, SJW or anything between that.

Can someone tell me why the only time these sjw articles bitching about over sexualized characters in video games are brought up is when /v/ brings them up? Every other day of the week they're irrelevant

>>385637734
Poison would be stoned to death for being a degenerate.

>>385649145
>"sexy characters make games better"
i don't know about you anon but something about this quote reeks of the fact that he wants more of "muh loli with cowtits wearing bikinis" type of shit in vidya or else it won't look good.

>>385649076
Now replace sexualized women with diversity and you'll have the current state of the art in the western videogame industry.

>>385642809
...I can't be the only dude who wants to wrap my sexy girls up in big warm fluffy coats and sweaters right?

...right?

>>385649076

>being this prudish
>implying you can't have both tits and good gameplay

shit taste anon.

>>385648841
>talks about broad trends
>narrows it down to a single point or example

Do you try to have discussions in bad faith or is it natrual?

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>>385648813
Ok, do you want to use the actual female champion? Is actually more similar to Tifa(well, the body)maybe even "smaller"

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This is why I make games with anthros.
Feminists can't criticize them without it coming off as misunderstanding a community, and I get to play the bigotry card. It's fucken awesome.

>>385639861
Is this true? I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

>>385649076
The thing is, there are games with sexualized character AND good gameplay and people bitch anyway. At that point the screeching doesn't make any sense.

>>385637335
SJWs are not a thing.

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Felicia is best Darkstalkers Girl.

>>385648606
why would you make yourself fat in your own game?

>>385648970
Pretty sure that Heterosexual Men don't make up 99% of the population anon.

>>385649387
______yiff_____
__________in______
my bedroom with me

At the end of the day it's just about censorship of art. I don't want anything to be censored, no matter how much I disagree with its message. I think Hatred is disgusting but it has the right to be sold.

>>385648842
dumb shit, like making a character look like a modern design or some shit

it looks horrible anyway, i could probably make a better design and im gonna try

>>385649385
I want her to fight off my dick like a chestburster xenomorph was coming at her

>>385649469
name five (5) games that do this

>>385649537
Yes we do, every woman is a man inside

>>385649469
>>385649376
Name me even one single game with an over-sexualized main character and I'll just as easily show you a piece of crap churned out over the course of a week just to make a quick buck. I'm not talking about a game with a woman character who just so happens to be attractive, I'm talking about the blatant "needs to shove her ass in your face every 5 seconds" kind of sexualization.

>>385649308

I understand not liking something because it hides medicrity behind cheesecake and hoping the player doesn't notice or care but the idea of not having your cake and eating it too is not only dishonest but incorrect. There are plenty of quality titles with fanservice. I see it more as a catalyst than a crutch. If something is good it only adds more. If it sucks then it is transparent and bullshit.

>>385648735
As a man am I supposed to be more offended by the depictions of oversized bara bodybuilders or the undersized ottermode yaoi twinks?

Both are overtly sexualised, but both seem diametrically opposed to each other.

>>385638352
The key here is to give her more boob, more gut, and more thighs, then let god sort out how it all works.

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>>385638594
Good thing that man love to fight in a teletubbies costume.

>>385637335
They hate them because they're a reminder of what they are not. They are not fit. They are not attractive. Nobody wants to see them wearing skimpy clothing. So instead of trying to better themselves, they try to change how other people view them. They do this by saying that idealized figures are not representative of reality, so artists shouldn't depict them. When in reality, there actually are women that look like those figures. That's why cosplay exists. But that doesn't make SJWs feel better, so instead they try to get artists to draw plain or ugly characters that look more like they do.

>>385637335
Ugly women realize they won't ever look good so they are jealous.

Beta males think they do women a favor with virtue signaling.

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>>385649626
>inb4 DOESNT COUNT

>>385649632
But that's the thing: you CAN'T have your cake and eat it too. Every moment you dedicate to rendering jiggle physics, or every cutscene you dedicate to showing the main character fellating a pole or a banana, that's time and money you could've given to someone else to actually make the game better, instead of giving it to the writer so he can make more porn scenes, or the graphic artist who makes jiggling tits for a living. Tell the latter two to go jump off a cliff, they've infested this industry long enough.

>>385639615
>that ayy lmao in front

>>385649383
>Do you try to have discussions in bad faith or is it natrual?

But, isn't your kind the ones that do that? Using an example to bash every other game?

>>385649626
>muh sexualization

women exist to be sexualized. grow up underage

>>385649626

sturgen's law is not a fucking argument.

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>>385649626
Hi.

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You guys are saying male power fantasies are huge buff bara guys are missing the point. You can become huge and muscular, you're not genetically prevented from doing so.

A "Male Power Fantasy" to me is a 35+ year-old character with a 18-year-old's hairline and no hair loss. Now that's some ludicrously fantastic bullshit.

>>385649879
nah dude just give them more money to work with and now she can eat the cake and have it all go to her tits

>>385638594
I know it's bait, but fuck it, it's fun
>It's just not realistic.
Tough shit
>The figures those women have and the outfits they're in don't obey any sort of logic or rationality.
They don't need to
>A woman wouldn't want to fight in a bikini, especially a bikini which physically cannot stay attached to her body.
A woman wouldn't be a competent Fighter against men either, an ugly woman wouldn't be a love interest either. Yet that's what you want.
>It's about a movement to make art and culture depict the world as it really is, even in fantasy.
I don't believe what your people want is reality.
>Without any grounding in our real, lived-in world, media has no purpose.
This is entertainment, it doesn't has to be anything else other than something that sells.
>It's just masturbation material.
Thats fine.
>The reason why SJWs want more women, more people of color, women of different shapes and sizes, is because they want people to see the world for how it really is.
SJW do not see the world for what it really is.
>Their core belief is this: Western culture has been selling a lie of white male dominance.
What does race has anything to do with this?
>It has been lying to people for generations and actually convincing them that white people are better than others, and that men are better than women.
Reality isn't all that better. Blacks commit more crimes than whites, europe conquered the world, women are weaker physically than men and women can't even cook or raise children well these days.
>The way you destroy a lie is with the truth, and a commitment to realism in all things.
Make your own games and see if they sell.

>>385644531
>nier automata. shallow games that only sold because muh dick

Except it was also praised by fucking western journalists. The very same ones that usually shit on anything japanese with lots of sexualization. How the fuck can you people still think its only popular based on tits?
Shit on the game all you want, but don't fucking twist the facts.

>>385649597
Devil May Cry series
Mortal Kombat series
Soul Calibur series
Tomb Raider series (discounting TReboot for the sake of this post)
Dragons Crown

>>385649948
sup baldy

>>385649043
>white males are in power
>but white male dominance is a lie, the only reason they're in power is because of some cheap bullshit tricks!

>>385649948
Shut up, baldy.

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>>385649879
But I was told that the Tomb Raider reboot was progressive.
Are you telling me that them spending all that time on realistic hair physics....was offensive to women?

>>385649879

>I don't understand how game development works: The Post

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>>385649597
Not him but

Rance 3
Rance 4
Rance 6
Sengoku Rance
Rance IX

I didn't include 5D or Rance Quest because I don't think they have particularly good gameplay.

>>385649626
See above, these games take years to make each. Now you can arguly that it doesn't count because the MC is a man, but he is totally sexualized, the guy has the body of a porn star. And every girl is very attractive because he wants to fuck them. Except Silbarrel, she's intentionally hideous, so hideous that he becomes actively weaker in her presence, mainly as a point of comedy. But these games regardless are all solids RPGs, with the exception of Sengoku which is a strategy game.

>>385649626
And every game with good gameplay and sexualized character is shit because of this,right?
I bet you go to Automata threads to bitch about how sexy 2B is when you didn't even play the game,fucking faggot

>>385650060
>The very same ones that usually shit on anything japanese with lots of sexualization.
Serious question: Why do you think that is?

>>385649632
>There are plenty of quality titles with fanservice
Name some

>>385638985
>This gets no replies because it isn't a butthurt permavirgin echo chamber response.
Fuck this board.

>>385649917
>"needs to shove her ass in your face every 5 seconds" kind of sexualization.

Sorry but I actually play the game, and to be honest you don't actually saw anything if you don't pay attention specifically to the fact that she is half naked, cause the game is not so easy and super fast paced. Well, the 2nd have more "sexy cutscene" but are 10 minutes in the entire game, not every 5 seconds.

>>385650181

Because it's a culture they can't control. And anything they can't control, they try to defame.

>>385649948
>losing hair
>officeannoyed[1].gif
>annoyed
Found the problem, you're GaFing too frequently, chill, cause...
We're here forever

>>385639832
>Pink, FLUTTERy hair swept to the side
>Blue eyes
>Stuttering like a SHY person would

>>385649879

Serious question when the fuck was the last time you saw a game that in game implied fellacio that was just used as a tease? I know there is plenty of promotional material or concept art but i am talking IN GAME GRAPHICS.

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Anyone who doesn't like waifu aesthetics is an actual homo.

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Why is she so perfect?

>>385637734
but Poison is a dude

>>385650198
Mortal Kombat
Metal Gear
Final Fantasy
Smash Brothers

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>>385650271
So it only counts if theres nudity?

>>385649063
of the year? yes. What else is there? pubtg?

(that also has japanese schoolgirls costumes in loot boxes so it's weeb too)

>>385650060

the game outright warns you not to self destruction. you know the way you get 2B to blow off her skirt revealing THOSE GRAPHICS? Westerners just are dumb.

>>385637335
didnt bother to check the thread but someone posted the copypasta of "women dont like others being prettier so they make themselves the new image of beauty and demonize anyone/thing prettier than them" right?

>>385649626
all fighting games
a girl thrusting her butt at the opponent is a common attack in various series.

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>>385650198

>>385637335

Characterization doesn't matter to them. All that matters is self-image problems and how pretty girls hurt their feelings.

>>385637335
Correction:
Sexualized female characters.
Look at how they fawn over hot guys and you'll see.

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>>385650337
Catholic girls are the best.

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>>385649865
>>385649917
>button mashing cinematic trash designed for the filthy casuals

Man, I called that a mile away.

>>385650181
Because most of western videogame media is dominated by SJW ideology-driven bloggers who've colluded the setting to only include themselves.

And also because they desperately want to force games to adhere to SJW standards but the actual audience for games refuses their rhetoric, so they get bitter and meekly continue to write nonsense.

>>385650164
But Quest is just a reverse of VI, where instead of having first-person dungeon crawling with third-person battles where you have unlimited move usage but characters can only be used in X number of battles, you have third-person dungeon crawling with first-person battles where you have X number of move usage but characters can be used in unlimited battles providing they can still arrack.

>>385650575
The idea that a character can be fanservicey and well-characterized never occurs to them. I wonder why?

>>385650271
>she's not sexualized if you don't pay attention to the fact that she's half naked.

Guys tend to pay attention to that stuff.