"MUH CLASSIC SONIC IS BETTER THAN MODERN SONIC" >play

(You)

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git gud

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>>385560012
YOU FRICKIN FRICK

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN

>>385560172
But Mario is faster than Sonic in-game.

>>385560619
This, Sonic is not fast in 2D at all

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Checkmate

>>385560619
That's just a theory.

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>>385560781
>posts the only good 2D sonic game

>>385560012
>Run into a spike
>You hit the side of the spikes and take no damage because spikes don't damage you from the side, only the top
Firstly you're retarded, secondly the kind of situation you're describing is actually more Dimps-Sonic than Classic-Sonic. Sonic 1 had a few janky moments (not to mention spike glitch) but generally speaking classic Sonic was INCREDIBLY sparse with spikes, lava and death pits, and if you've got retard-slow reaction times like you seem to, you can just roll most of the time to bypass the danger of accidentally hitting an enemy.

In short, you're full of shit. Try again.

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>>385560501

How is this game even played? People always tell me the reason I don't like classic sonic is because I'm "playing it wrong" and I need to somehow autistically memorize each stage in order to go fast. Which is made doubly hard by the fact that there isn't a stage selection or ranking system.
It's the most unfair game I've ever played

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>>385560619
>goes the "speed of sound"
>a fat plumber runs 4x as fast and covers 2x as much ground
2D sonic is shit

>>385560970
sounds like you have the reaction speed of an elderly person

>>385560501
>>385560926
This kid is actually doing real good in life now. He deleted his instagram a bit back, but when it was up it had pictures of him on dates, him looking clean, him traveling. He's really matured.

>>385560012
Which one are you playing? Sonic 1 has next to no "outta nowhere!" moments. Start there if the baby games are giving you too much trouble.

>>385560970
>there isn't a stage select
How fucking young are you?

>>385561004
This, sonic is much faster in 3D. Also Mario is much faster in 2D.

>>385560012
>""""Classic Sonic""""
>Describes things that only happen in the Advance games
Why does this meme persist?

>>385560781
I've never even heard of this until this week. What is it even like?

>>385560619
Is there any actual proof of this?

>>385561370
There's only a theory...

>>385560920
>Classic Sonic
>Sparse with death pits

Kek.

>>385561128
>He's really matured.
You dumb retard, he was always playing a character, likely orchestrated by an older sibling for him to act out. just like that BumpityBoo kid.

Too hard for you?

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Seems like the best thread for it, so I just gotta say...does anyone else here feel that Classic Sonic in Forces is such an afterthought? He really doesn't seem to be much of anything in it from what we've seen so far.

>>385561652
no is real. my neighbor was his dad, he said he was a very bad boy

>>385561651
Sonic 1 only has them in very specific areas, with many zones having none (Labyrinth, Marble) or them being in incredibly specific areas (only being under trapdoors in Scrap Brain for instance). Sonic CD has ONE death pit in the entire game, in the final level. Sonic 2 arguably has the most death pits thanks to stages like Wing Fortress, but I'm pretty sure I could count the amount of bottomless pits in S3K on one hand.

So yeah, you're full of shit. Exaggerate all you like but spike traps and death pits really aren't a major issue in Classic Sonic.

>>385560012
Sonic is a game about rote memorization. That's why autistic children like it so much. That, and the colorful anthropomorphic characters.

>>385561771
He's clearly there primarily because Generations did well so they just did the same thing again.

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>>385560970
it's called developing "game playing skills".

it's the classical, more civilized version of the more modern "git gud" philosophy. Philistines and plebians with lower-level intellect are incapable of comprehending this feat often whine, complain shitpost or make weak bait threads on /v/ about this in order to compensate for their deficiency in understanding or personal performance issues.

All old games are like this. It's about remembering level layout. Yes, the first time you'll fly into a spike, but the second time you'll jump at the right time.

>>385561370
Of course not.

>>385562152
>All old games are like this
That's false though

>>385561651
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>>385561169
Do I need to walk you through every stage? Playing sonic 2, in emerald hill zone act two there's this real narrow area at the bottom with the waterfalls and spikes pop up out of nowhere right when your on a big run of momentum.
Then, in chemical plant zone when you fight egg man you're on these platforms but if you move even slightly left or right then out of nowhere the platforms flip over and you get instakilled.
Then on the next stage you can't even go underwater otherwise you're practically stuck with no way out when you reach a dead end, so you have to delicately platform onto the crumbling pillars but since the game is momentum based you can't precisely gauge your movements so you end up falling underwater anyway.
DKC tropical freeze and returns are better fast platforming games desu and it's really sad.

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>>385561771

pretty clear Sonic team can't work out how to give the boost mechanic gameplay any real substance and are relying on Classic as a crutch even though Mania is going to overshadow Classic Sonic to an unfathomable degree

>>385562385
It's not really sad at all.

>>385562385
MEMORIZATION. FUCK. WHAT DON'T YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND? IT'S ABOUT MEMORIZATION. FOR FUCKS SAKE, THAT WAS ALWAYS NAKA'S PLAN. MEMORIZATION. DIDN'T ANY OF YOU FUCKS READ >>385560172

>>385561979
>Sonic is a game about rote memorization. That's why autistic children like it so much.

Couldn't have said it any better. Classic Sonic is for people who play the games autistically and don't mind memorizing every enemy, death pit, and etc.

>>385562540
Just because it was his intention doesn't mean it was a good design philosophy to follow.

>>385562385
>Then, in chemical plant zone when you fight egg man you're on these platforms but if you move even slightly left or right then out of nowhere the platforms flip over and you get instakilled
>Out of nowhere
Those platforms look clearly distinct from the rest of the floor, and the flipping pipe platforms appear numerous times earlier in the level so you already know what they're about. "Out of nowhere" nothing. You literally need to git gud

>>385562540
Then I guess the game isn't for me.
I don't like thinking when I play platformers, imo their meant to be played using raw reflexes.
No wonder autists like this retarded game so much

What's the point of those springs that you just run into that bounce you backwards? All it does is waste your time, but I'd rather have those then death pits out the ass, fuck dimps they only got level design half decent with some of advance 1 and rush Adventure.

>>385562691
Yes, you're right, it's not a good design philosophy, but when people play the classic trilogy, especially Sonic 1, they need to understand how it was intended to be played. I hate seeing people complain about the classic games just because they don't understand this

>>385562696
But then he drops that blue jar right in the center and you have nowhere else to go.
Broken

>It's all about muh memorization
Nah you can react to these things in time if you're not shit. Sonic is more about memorizing how to make best use of the physics than it is about memorizing the levels themselves. Granted, you need memorization if you want to get gud at Sonic CD, or Metropolis/Wing Fortress Zone, thanks to a lot of cheaply placed level design in those particular instances, but apart from that you can do basically anything in classic Sonic with just a decent knowledge of the physics and decent reflexes.

>>385562915
If you're not retarded you can get 8 hits in before he even drops his goo. You just jump at him at such an angle that you get bounced back to the middle section, then keep doing that. It's piss easy

Y'know you can play Sonic like a normal platformer, I fucking did. Game has you go fast? Press down to curl into a ball. It's also why there's a ring system in place of a life meter or something like that. Take a hit because of an obstacle? No biggie, just get a ring and get back into it. It was fine to play through that way, then if you replayed it and remembered a few things about the level design, or learned the physics you could show off and get a better time, better score, or a shot at a bonus level for the chaos emeralds. Hell, Sonic 3 & Knuckles tied getting the chaos emeralds more into exploration than speeding everywhere like a madman, even if the game still accommodated that.

>>385560172
Like...any other game then?

>>385560012
Ya te vi osakachin

Play it while you commit suicide.

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>>385562114
>/thread
There's honestly no further excuse a new player
could possibly pull out of their ass beyond this
point.


>>385560012
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>>385561979
a stronger form of autism can be found in blind
defiance of a popular thing and pretending to be
two different people in hopes that your way of
thinking will catch on.

All of this REEEEEE that's on display is
starting to smell ripe for bullying. You were
trolled to hell and back once on /v/ for liking
modern fps games, weren't you?

like, "If I can't just point at the target and hold
the trigger enough until I win, the game sucks."
is your way of thinking about games, isn't it?

You know "That part" of the game? After having a blast with hydrocity marble garden is "that part"

>>385560012
>I have the reaction time of a snail

>>385563995
That's four different people. If anyone's pretending to be two different people it's you. The IP count for this thread didn't go up when you posted in it.

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>play devil may cry
>encounter a bunch of enemies and mash buttons to do combos
>get always interrupted by another enemy attacking me while I'm trying to combo
>the enemy I was attacking is now attacking me too
>game over

Davil May Cry was never good.
Can somebody please tell me the proper way to play this piece of trash? I feel like I wasted my money

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>>385564781
anon, did you read that out loud before you posted it?

>>385565748
>Comparing a Hack 'n Slash game to a Platformer
>This analogy

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>>385564781
>citing post count where an innocent person would never have logically thought of paying attention to it in order to sidestep an accusation.

As of this post, there are 25 unique posters, so...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP5ywbD9sgo

>>385566000
You literally missed the point.

>>385566005
If you were smart you would pay attention to the pay count regardless due to faggots who always fall back on the false flagging meme to try and "win the argument" and "one up" the other person such as yourself. With retards like you and others in this thread it's no wonder Sonic is seen as one of the worst video game fan bases.

>>385560501
>voted for trump
is he /ourguy/?

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>>385566551
>tfw shillarycucks fantasies will NEVER be quenched

>>385560012
>spike knocks me back 8 inches
>causing me to land on a spring which springs me into said spike again

There's not a single section that's even remotely like that in any of the Classic Sonic games.

But good job at getting (You)s anyway.

>>385561771
He was the worst part of Generations, Sega can't do 2D Sonic

Protip: Good Sonic games aren't about "gotta go fast", they're obstacle courses where you're just working on maintaining momentum. Sonic 1 didn't even have, nor need, spindash.

>>385567053
Sonic 1 wasn't good.

>>385567260
You're right, it was amazing and the best Sonic game to date other than Spinball.

>>385567260
I bet you're one of those guys that thinks Sonic is all about speed and gets mad when you have to do real platforming

>>385567260
I'd play Sonic 1 before 2 and CD.

>>385565748
>dmc1
>combos

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>>385560012
>play modern sonic
>go forward real fast
>clip into ocean
>clip into ocean again
>clip through loop into ocean again
>loop throws me into the ocean again

>>385567319
Bruh, no just no

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>>385560012
Not my fault you have such shitty reaction time. You don't give up on your first try, anon

>>385560619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pTISCLHS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0gnT74Y4kY

You're actually full of shit. The only thing slower about Sonic is that he actually has to stop and do things that aren't holding down right every so often.

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>>385560012
>>385566237
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>>385561979
>>385564781
>>385566237
Somebody screencap this for me.
First time I've ever witnessed a live calling out and meltdown on /v/ and I'm on a fucking phone.

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>>385566237
None of what you said in this post clears you of the possibility. the owe is still on you and the 3 counts of "autism/autistic" with the implication of willingness to side/agree with op.

It's easier to sniff out rookie anons who have shitty writing habits than you think it is. Also, unique user count doesn't mean jack shit in a thread where post count is twice the amount of unique posters, especially if the unique user count starts going over 15 where getting any kind of good bead becomes impossible.

falling back on that at this late in the game is telling of you more than anybody and the fact that you were so eager to rely to it specifically note "four different people" reeks of damage control.... you know, since it's common sense that it would be impossible for anybody to know it was that many people (unless the post count didn't exceed 6 and the user count was 5, which is literally the only circumstance you would be right.)

In other words, you're a start screen demo. You just played yourself.

>>385560012
>>385560970

There are two ways to play Sonic games and not suck at it

1: Memorize the levels. This is the autist option, and it exists so that people who are too stupid and slow for option 2 can still enjoy the games.

2: Be not fucking retarded and have actual decent reaction times. You have half a second to press the jump button every time a spike or spring shows up in your path. If you're too slow to handle that, either see option 1 or be a casual and play an easier game.

Either way, the games aren't bad. You are bad.

>>385569220
To add a third point, if you're not playing on original hardware with CRT (best way to get good reaction times as there's no/less input lag), there's no excuse not to be playing the superior Taxman versions of 1/2/CD, so even if you are too retarded to react on time and too lazy to memorize anything, these problems are offset by the added reaction time afforded to you by the 16:9 widescreen camera.

Man and I thought people were joking about the Sonic fan base being terrible. Now I see the light. This fan base deserves every single one of the shit games Sega has shit out.

>>385569532
Man I really wish 3&K would get that treatment along with the features Sonic 3 complete has, would be god tier

>>385560619
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>>385561370
>there are people in this world who use the Sans is Ness guy to prove that Sonic is mechanically slower than Mario

>>385561325
A Metroidvania.

>>385570108
Was the Game Theorist ever serious? I tried to watch some of his older videos but they're just as fucking absurd. I feel like this guy is just pulling one big ruse

>>385560012
>play new shooter
>cime around corner and see enemy i had no idea was there
>fall back and get flank by another enemy that just appeared
Fps was never good

>>385569532
>there's no excuse not to be playing the superior Taxman versions of 1/2
I've got the M2 versions.

>>385569220
>>385569532
calm down, Cybershell

>>385570530
Same. They're good versions on the go, not as good as the Taxman phone phone ports, but I can't into touch controls for a platformer.

>>385570680
Cybershell uses a trip here.

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>It's a falseflagging Classicuck episode

Why are you fuckers always so salty about modern Sonic? There's a classic Sonic game coming out next month, just fucking play it and stop bitching.

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>>385570869
>It's a falseflagging adventurecuck falseflagging as a classiccuck falseflagging as a boostcuck falseflagging as an adventurecuck falseflagging as a classiccuck falseflagging as a game journalist episode

>>385570869
>classic fans
>falseflagging
Pick one.

(Not only that, but nobody in the thread insisted in sparking an argument between the two sides yet until you implied it.)

>>385560012
>>run into a spike that I had no way of knowing it would pop up
If you aren't playing Sonic Genesis for the GBA and have that problem, you probably just suck.

>>385560012
Sonic was never good

>>385560012

>go forward real fast

Not even that, at least from my experience from the first Sonic the Hedgehog, he's never that fast as his fans make him to be.

>>385560012
>sonic 1 was a marketing meme that all the kids fell into
>sonic 2 was mildly better and had 2 player but was still pretty bad
>sonic 3 The Hedgehog And Knuckles is a literal meme
nah, Sonic really was always bad

I really hate how people can play video games all their lives and never understand or appreciate good level design.

All five of the 16-bit Sonic games had damn fine level design. 2 was probably the weakest in level design despite being the most fun (because they didn't account for how thoroughly the spindash breaks the game) and it's STILL an incredibly tightly designed game.

You want shit level design? Go pop in one of the OTHER Genesis platformers, like Kid Chameleon.

>>385570869
Nobody was even doing the classicfag versus modernfag angle until you came and made this terrible shitpost. 0/10 you really should apply yourself more

>>385560619
Theory =/= Fact

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>>385572615
It's literally the first line in OP's post.

>"MUH CLASSIC SONIC IS BETTER THAN MODERN SONIC"

Whether or not people responded is irrelevant; he's still a falseflagging Romhac Maniautist trying to bait people.

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>>385572534
Kid Charmeleon literally had nothing going for it besides being a horribly executed mario clone that tried to be different but failed. What an exhausting game to play, it's slippery shit and for no good reason either and a bunch of levels full of nothing. Dull and lame game through and through

>>385572934
Yeah you could spin your conspiracies about how it's a classic Sonic fan or we could just go with the simplest explanation - that OP doesn't like Sonic, period

>>385573247
It's novel, which is what a lot of Sega exclusives have going for them. KC certainly isn't fun to replay, but it's a worthwhile experience.

But yeah, the Sonic games are some of the only Genesis games with strong level design. People who try to pretend they're shit have never played a bad platformer.

>>385572298
Can you explain what you dislike about each and every one of those?

>>385574343
>But yeah, the Sonic games are some of the only Genesis games with strong level design. People who try to pretend they're shit have never played a bad platformer.

>Bad level design is the only thing that could possibly make a platformer bad

(You)

>>385574747
>Bad level design is the only thing that could possibly make a platformer bad
Considering that it's pretty universally agreed upon that the graphics, music and physics of Sonic are top-notch (for the era at least), what else but the level design could possibly make it bad?

>>385574747
>Shoving words into people's mouths: the post.
All I'm saying is you don't know a goddamn thing about level design if you think Sonic's is bad. You could argue it's some other element that makes the games bad if you like, but the design is strong.

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>sonic

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>>385575525
>Sonic

>>385560172
/Thread

>>385575525
Stupid 3D loli

>>385562915
You know you can duck and the blue goo won't damage you, right?