Why does DOOM feels like such a chore? It's pretty and all

literally no reason to get upgrades outside of like 2 or 3.

>>385555092
>Guns are unsatisfying
>Game is too long
>The last couple levels seem to go on forever
>Chainsaw kills mandatory to stay alive because of how little health pickups there are
>Upgrades are useless
>Movement speed is too slow
>Graphics are bland
Why do people call this a good game again?

Try playing on hard. It's a well made hard mode, and you'll often feel like you barely made it through encounters.

That's not to say that it didn't start to feel like a chore during the late game. It stops surprising you after a while. The boss fights only mildly alleviate that.

>>385555092
I liked it a lot.
But who tells you to do things? Are you talking about the "story" and the robot? I've didn't even listen to the dialogues, and I don't even remember if the game has "objectives" on the top right corner. I don't know who the robot or the woman were and what they wanted. I jsut know I'm some hardcore fucker that shoots demon in hell.

Let's be honest, you're not doing things because the literally who robot told you to, you do them because, what else is there to do? You kill stuff, progress in the level, find the exit and go to the next level. At some point you have to climb a tower with platform, you would have done it even without a robot telling you to climb it. Absolutely nothing will change without the story, it's obvious they first designed the game without it and without a map and upgrades, then added then to secure some sales on normies and casuals.

Only problem I had with it was the fact that the game showed up all it had to show a bit too early. I mean, the last quarter of the game had practically nothing new in it besides those (admittably good) boss fights. They really should have had one more weapon and couple more of enemy types there, could really have made a difference for the better.

Also I was kind of disappointed that the last "new" enemy type in the game was just a cybered up version of Mancubus. Really wanted to see some arch-viles or something equally nasty.

>>385556657
>without a map and upgrades
>without a map
you do know the original doom had a button to show the map right?

>>385556103
>Guns are unsatisfying
Guns are fantastic wtf. MAYBE, just MAYBE the plasma gun is meh-ish, everything else is pure porn. That sawed shotgun my god
>Game is too long
Then why is every thread on /v/ full of people saying it's too short?
>The last couple levels seem to go on forever
Uh, ok I guess, i didn't get that impression
>Chainsaw kills mandatory to stay alive because of how little health pickups there are
You don't know what mandatory is. I've used the chainsaw something like 5 times in 3 playthroughs, 2 of which on ultra violence, and it was just because I wanted to see the animation. If nothing changes with or without it, then it's not mandatory
>Upgrades are useless
True, therefore complaining about them is useless. They have no impact on the game, so use them only if you think they look cool. I didn't even bother to talk to the robot or pick up a lot of upgrade chips.
>Movement speed is too slow
Slower than Doom, faster than every modern game, and as fast as Doom with the sprint rune. But this just makes sense, you couldn't jump in Doom, didn't have free aim, and enemies didn't behave the same way. So the only way of avoiding death was going fast. I'll take free movement, double jumps and free aim over speed every day of the weak.
>Graphics are bland
Raw graphics are superb, it runs great, as for art design, people either love it or hate it, subjective. Like the soundtrack, most people think it's phenomenal, a few say it's shit.

They call it a good game because it is a good game.

>>385558197
The machinegun especially feels great to use. As for the chainsaw, I do not believe that is mandatory either but it does serve as a way to escape immediate danger. I've used it against one of the hell knights that you have to fight at the end of the foundry level and with other hell knights but that really is it. Everything else is dependant on your skill, I also agree on the tradeoff of better movement and aim than doom but slower raw speed.

>>385559675
>>385558197

I used the chainsaw exclusively on the shield grunts

Fuck those guys and their ten million damage shotties

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>>385559838
Learn to flank and they're not so bad. The trouble comes in when they've got a whole bunch of buddies that make this fuckin impossible

>>385555092
Because it's a soulless console AAA shootet that tried to appeal to the CoD kids, totally misunderstanding and ignoring the OG game's meta and possibility space. D4 is repetitive and shallow as fuck.

>>385559838
I use the rocket launcher on them, shot not at the shield but directly at the floor below them. They are weak against splash damage

>>385555092
Why can't you into English, you retarded ESLfaggot?

>>385561104
>apeal to CoD kids

May I ask... how? It would make a little bit more sense if you said say... Halo kids but eh.

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>>385561564
Do you really think that post is worth a reply? How serious do you think he's being?

>>385561946
Poe's law.

I have met these people in real life.

>>385561104
Dude memes lmao

>>385562071
Ugh.

Well, either way, it's alost cause. He won't argue. He'll spout buzzwords at worst and meaningless qualitative nothings at best. People like that don't argue. They scream and pout and have no friends. You know the guy who screamed at your normie friend for using edge? Yes, it's shit, but that's not the point we're making. That's what you'll find here day in and day out.

>>385561564
>press key to do cool little animation "game play "
The upgrade tree shit makes akin to the modern FC games tho.

>>385562687
CoD has that at specific moments where you need to do it to progress while D44M has it that you can activate it during normal gameplay or you can choose not to do it with the only exceptions being the bosses, which is a total of 5 forced glory kills.

>>385562267
>Zenimax shill trying to sound smart
D4 was terrible game, literally nothing like the originals, and managed to be a total downgrade compared to the 20 years old titles it thinks it is mimicking. Only literal FPS-hungry Xbots would think that this lukewarm, reskinned Hard Reset would be enjoyable in any way.

>>385563194
Did you miss the few dozen demon gate ripping and item pickup / door opening cutscenes? At times it felt like I was playing a first person scifi TLOU.

>>385563221
I thought it was a reskinned Painkiller which was a good game in it's own right.

>>385563472
PK had much more scale and speed than both HR and D4. That 12 enemy limit and constant lockdown room spam are ridiculous.

>>385563663
First of all, the 12 enemy limit is Snapmap. Campaign can have 24 enemies in a single arena and uses that number in the last few arenas.

Second of all, it's a shame we don't get high numbers but at the same time, I don't want 20 Nu-pinkies running around screaming their heads off while 30 Nu-Imps run around being bastards while Knights and Barons come from every imaginable crack in the level. The point I am trying to make is that the AI is already frustrating sometimes with low numbers, let alone slaughterwad numbers.