>Game is all about combat >combat is shit What did

>>385538864

>>385538864

>>385538864

I really hated awful magic system and the way game ties rolling to specific classes

>>385538864
Means you have shit taste and no perception of what's good and bad

>>385540240
and the retarded defence system.

>>385538864
I loved the magic archer desu

>>385540434
it's one of a few satisfying classes in the game

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>>385538864
Compared to what? Which action RPG would you say has better combat?

>>385540303
Here, take a redpill about Dragon's dogma shitty combat system.

https://youtu.be/T2BNxpYz9rk?t=470

7:50 -->

>fast class can dodge roll
>strong class can shield or damage reduction
>beta magic class can rely on others to cast fuckhuge spells
only entitled children complain about this. "i want it all" mentality only found in millennials it makes me fucking sick. Grow up it's an RPG you make a choice and you can switch at any time DUMBASS

>>385540551
The Witcher.

>>385540551
Skyrim

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>>385540551
Pretty much any action RPG? Dark souls for example.

>>385540687
>it's an RPG

it's not though.

>>385540793
This is like complaining about David Lynch because he makes unique movies and it makes your head hurt. Of course video game playing autists don't like things that are different.

>>385540240
>>385540320

But those things balance out the classes. Yellows dodge, Reds block/tank, Blues wield magic and need to stay the fuck out of melee/have other classes cover for them.

You could always go hybrid class and get the best of two worlds if that's what you need.

>>385540750
>>385540790
Neither of those games have better combat than DD. Bloodborne is the only answer.

>>385540897
>movie analogy

>>385540586
Most of this video is just complaining about the story telling which is plebs choice when it comes to game critic.

>>385540586
>here, this douchebag told me what to think
really sparks my cables

>>385541065
Can you do twirly sword slashes in DD? Fuck no you can't, Witcher's combat is better.

>>385540793
I cannot think of what those three headers could possibly be for. Damage is damage, the healing magic seemed fine to me, and I cant comprehend why you'd have a problem with dying when you get killed.

>>385540793
Slow, methodical combat isn't better, just slower and more methodical. And I like how the only thing you can list is/are Souls games even though you say any action RPG.

>>385541154
t. didn't watch the video

>>385541160
>being in denial

Everything he said is an objective fact.

>>385541209
I liked the healing system. In the beginning when you're learning the game you let your pawn auto heal you and later when you learn the game you switch your pawn to do DPS and you just manage healing items. It worked pretty well.

>>385540240
there's already enough invincible moves, not everyone needs a get out of jail free card available at anytime

I couldn't stand Dragon's Dogma because of all the fucking walking. You spend more time running to places than anything else in that fucking game.

>>385541420
There are short cuts and teleportation items. You fucking want fast travel? The map was tiny FFS

>>385541209
>the way damage is calculated

Means that if your weapon deals 50 damage and enemy has 50 defence, you deal 0-1 damage to it. If you gain a level up, now you deal 2 damage, doubling the damage with only one level.

>healing damage and resource management
You can pause the gameplay at ANY TIME to fully heal yourself with no drawbacks. Healing items are plentiful and you will never run out of them. Inventory management is cumbersome.

>wakestones
You have a billion wakestones and can instantly revive yourself if you happen to die, but again there's no penalties for this. Enemy doesn't refill its health, no nothing.

>>385541187
>caring about spinny slashes when you can be a DD Assassin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWf0Cf9YUJM

>>385540750
>>385540790

Prove it.

>>385541743
You can actually die in those games, unlike DD.

>>385541483
>You fucking want fast travel?
I'm confused why that even is a question. Why wouldn't you want that as an option? Do you enjoy running errands that much?

>>385538864
Finally, a good dragon's dildo thread

but the combat was the only good thing in that game

>>385538864
I only played Warrior and Mystic Knight. Had a lot of fun desu.

>>385541581
Weapons are important and when you advance the main quest you get access to a new tier of items. This isn't that bizarre. Also you level up damage based on your class so you build a character by switching classes as you level up. That's unique as hell and forces you to play different classes if you want a specific build. Although my autistic brother felt forced to play a class he didn't want to play but its his own fault for being retarded, no one is forcing you to minmax a character but yourself.

Gonna get this game again when it comes out on PS4, but I don't know what vocations to take and I haven't played in about three years. I did fighter and magic knight on my first playthrough and was getting around to being a mage before I had to sell a bunch of shit off, including the game. Now I'm thinking Magic Archer as the end goal since people seem to say it's the most fun, starting as a rogue maybe, but I've also never really utilized the crazy huge sorcerer spells. What do you recommend, /v/?

>>385541905
Exactly. So it's puzzling how they fucked up the combat system that badly.

>DUDE cyclops LMAO!

>>385541984
I recommend you play all the classes whenever you feel like it and don't worry about it because it doesn't matter.

>>385542081
I've been told that the magic classes end up just being 'wait around for big spell to finish before casting another' with no other real gameplay. Big spells like tornadoes and shit are cool, but Magic Archer intrigues me. What makes it so well lauded, exactly?

>>385541581
>GAME IS ONLY GOOD IF IT'S ANNOYINGLY DIFFICULT AND I READ OPTIMAL BUILD GUIDES MITIGATE AVOID THAT

lol no thanks man

>>385541807
It's plenty easy to die in DD. Go hard mode off the bat, go check out Bitter Black Island before you gather all the resources needed to effortlessly tank everything. If you're GUD though you won't need any of that.

>>385542972
Hard more in DD is the very definition of artificial difficulty.

>>385542568
The post game dungeon takes place in tight corridors and the Magic Archer's signature skill is ricochet shot

>>385542568
Yeah magic classes are pretty fucking cool for 5-10 hours but the more efficient big ass spells are basically you waiting around for a big explosion. There are smaller shorter spells that would be more fun to cast but you don't have a dagger or anything so you will mostly be just waiting for the giant tornado to finish and move on. It's still fun and cool as hell though but it will get old. Magic archer has some unique spells that make you play in a way that's different from a regular ranger or assassin. It's okay but you don't have to aim so you just hold down the mouse button for your regular attacks. If you're playing on a console magic archer would be better than the other archer classes. For me, climbing on monsters was the most fun way to play. Sword and shield warrior is also fun but you need a archer pawn to take down flying units. It's not a big game so don't expect hundreds of hours out of it. It's small and simple and it has charm to it.

>>385543307
Use a shield early game, quickly accumulate enough money to never worry about difficulty again
It isn't even artificially difficult, it straight up is not difficult

>>385542568
Magic Archer really shines during/after BBI content. Enemies in BBI 2.0 resist physical damage and require magic damage to damage them decently. The tight corridors make Ricochet Shot extremely powerful/useful. MA IMO only gets really good for the main game once you get BBI gear and stuff like the Explosive Rivet/9 Fold Bolt skill upgrades. That coupled with Immolation makes MA an excellent balance of physical and magical damage.

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I don't agree that Skyrim combat was better than anything. They actually coded enemy npc combat to curve their attacks so they will hit you, regardless of your attempts to dodge in actual combat. It was so annoying that they invented mods to strip that out.

>>385543307
>mode for making the game more difficult
>THAT'S ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY FUCKIN BULLSHIT

lmao

Also please read up on what happens in hard mode, it's actually a very fair system

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Hard_Mode

>>385541581
>Means that if your weapon deals 50 damage and enemy has 50 defence, you deal 0-1 damage to it. If you gain a level up, now you deal 2 damage, doubling the damage with only one level.

And why is that bad

>>385544234
Because every RPG system should be the same you shit lord

>>385544057
>Enemy damage is doubled.
>The Arisen's stamina usage is accelerated.
>Enemies drop proportionately more gold when killed.
>Experience Points are doubled.
>Discipline Points are doubled.
>Rift Crystal earnings by the Arisen's rented pawns are doubled.

Seems like it makes the game a tad easier after a while. I thought it restarted your whole character, not just the plot. Might try this.

>>385544234
If you can't figure it out with your own brain, you're beyond saving.

>>385544837
Come on man, tell me why its so bad. Surely you know why, you wouldnt just blindly follow a video game critic would you?

>>385544837
Really convinced me with that flawless logic

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>>385540882
>its not an RPG

>>385538864
Well hey, I enjoyed Dragons Dogma, cool opinion though

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>>385544962
>>385545000
Flat based reductions are just stupid, there's no way around it.

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When fighting a metal golem as a Sorcerer, you can use Maelstrom to reposition the talismans. So the ones that were previously out of reach can be brought to a place of your choosing.

Bolide is highly effective against both types of golem.

Maneaters are dark element sensitive. Casting Necromancy on yourself before opening a chest will result in the immediate destruction of any lurking worms.

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>>385546154
The very light-light character 35-40kg and under can grab onto harpies and break border boundaries flying over them.

>>385546019
it's not a multiplayer game. this defense system prevents a level 10 from fighting a level 50 mob and going to where he isn't supposed to go. its an RPG

>>385540793
>Pretty much any action RPG? Dark souls for example.

What? No. The combat in the souls games are bad.
It's only the sense of intimacy that prevents it from being shit. As in the damage the enemies deal to you and you to them.
Mechanically they're not good at all.

>>385546019
That's probably why there are debilitations

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Debilitation

>>385538864
magic is shit and the stamina system is infuriating, but it's now a bad combat system on its own

>>385538864
What's up with recent shitposting on DD? Is it salty Nincucks mad after the remaster announcements?

>>385546687
Probably tards that feel "tricked" by /v/ because they didn't enjoy playing DD and are now reminded of DD again with the release on PS4.

>>385546845
>going against the /v/ hivemind
>shitposting

Checks out.

>>385547013
meant to quote >>385546687

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>>385546687
>>385546845
A small part of it is /v/ contrarianism as well. It happens to any game that manages to have a maintained presence.

>>385546530
What game do you consider to have actual good combat?
Not even trying to argue, just curious.

>>385547416
What do you mean? Any game or a game similar to DD and Dark Souls? If that's the case then Nioh.

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>>385546687
Brainlets are mad that they know DD is one of the best games ever made but they can't get into it because they are to dumb.

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>>385546154
>When fighting a metal golem as a Sorcerer, you can use Maelstrom to reposition the talismans. So the ones that were previously out of reach can be brought to a place of your choosing.
WHAT

>>385541154
1/3 was about the gameplay

>>385548618
Same with Mystic Knight's Vortex Sigil and Magick Archer's Vortex Trail. I'm still mad that people never realized how useful Grapnel is. Go Mage Arisen and Mage Pawn, constantly use Grapnel on shit and when your pawn is using it with enough frequency, just switch to Sorceror or whatever class you're doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeAMveNgESc

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>tfw can't play DD til October

>>385540586
Fuck off Joseph. We alredy know your taste is absolute shit so stop sholling yourself.

>>385546019
>babby's first encounter with the concept of damage treshold

If we got a sequel, you reckon Capcom would let you make lolis again?

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>>385550309
>tfw the first time you took on final boss in dark arisen it took nearly 2 hours because your spell score was just barely above the minimum needed to damage him

>>385550183
He's correct literally about every game he talks about tho.

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>>385540750
>>385540790
>The Witcher
>Skyrim
Top kekkles

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Reminder that Not!Casca is best girl, followed by the jew, then Aelinore, then Selene, then a pile of shit, then Quinna

>>385541420
Port crystals and ferry stones are your best friend in this game. I cannot even imagine how fucking awful that would've been before Dark Arisen came out.

>>385550576
>correct
>story is important to a game, everything should be level scaled, dark souls 3 is best souls game and dragon's dogma is shit
Pick one. This guy is a retarded normalfag with a stick up his ass. While Dragon's Dogma is flawed and could have used a lot of polish, as it stands it's still a great game and one of the most memorable pieces of media I've ever consumed.

>>385550797
I would play again if I could find the casca avatar guide

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>>385551089
I've got this

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>>385538864
>combat is shit
You know, you could at least TRY to make your shitposting believable.

>>385550797
Casca is weebspeak for mercedes isn't it?

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>>385550797
>A goat
>Above anything when you have Maddie and your pawn.

In before said goat reacts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcKtBqxcTK4

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>>385540750

>>385551274
It's a Berserk reference. There are almost as many references in DD as there are in Dark Souls
But whereas Artorias or Gael are basically Guts in combat style, Mercedes is Casca in all but name and getting raped into insanity

>>385541828
it removes the journey. what is the point in creating a world map when you're just going to fast travel to the destinations anyway? if you're tired of doing side quests, don't do them. or manage them to where you can wipe out multiple ones in the same area. It also removes immersion if you care about that. no point in stocking on items and preemptively upgrading equipment when you can just fast travel back to the smith when things get too hard.

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>>385540790
>skyrim
Cmon, you've got to stop pulling your punches like that. Skyrim has one of the worst FPS melee system in existence. It does almost everything wrong.
Here's an idea for your next attempt.

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>Silk lingerie

>>385540240
>he doesnt like blasting 4 bars of health off some cunt with one spell

>>385540793
The DEF/DMG system is not the best, but it does drive home the fact that your puny level 5 Fighter shouldn't be trying to kill that goddamn drake. Come back later.
Resource management is indeed shit. Having two item menus is kind of a chore and gets used to. Healing damage is fine-ish, ff you're talking about the grey-health and stuff. Having to use items to get back fully lost health is okay, but not the way you can instantly eat ten pounds of grass to do it. This indeed ties with resource management issues.
Wakestones and the death system are fine. Git gud.

>>385551207
>fat chin and jaw
>red lipstick

reeeee

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>>385551282
>Not loving a goat
>Loving a money grubbing jew

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>>385551974
Then adjust it to your liking, i'm not holding your hand

>>385551735
>glorified 30 second long awesome button
meh

>>385552126
>not rolling all mage party
>not synch casting spells for super fast casting

>>385552126
>set self on fire then bullride till its dead

yeeeeeeeeeehawwww~

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>>385550797
>Aelinore
Fuckn' bitch, she is!

>>385552126
Other than drawing runes with your mouse, magic in videogames is usually just that, yeah.

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>>385552341
>The Duke would probably have put her to death
>They never loved each other anyway
On a side note, I never feel bad about cucking the duke, he's such a piece of shit

>>385552275
Who would have thought that the most fun spell in the game would just be setting yourself on fire?

>>385552341
a good casting system allows you to influence surroundings in a way larger amounts of ways than simple direct attacking shit
magic system of DD is absolutely barebones, it has neither depths nor variety, just a bunch of damage dealing awesome buttons
you know you fucked up when the most effective spell in a game is al ight-charged focused bolt simply because it allows you to skip mandatory spell charges
not talking about blue class hybrids though, they are a bit better but still lackluster

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Julien is the fucking best
>Jew stuffs a note between her titties
>He just rips it out
>She places a hand on his shoulder, pretty much ready to fuck right there
>Julien channels his inner Leon S Kennedy
>He BTFO the Casca wannabe

>>385552631
Name five video games where the magic lets you influence your surroundings like you say.

>>385546154
HOLY SHIT

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>>385552512
Duke is crazy and she did only do the only thing that could save anyone in that room.
She's still used goods and a slut at that.

>>385552631
>just a bunch of damage dealing awesome buttons
Try to be less wrong next time.
Debilitations and buffs. Movement restrictive stuff too.

Fulmination and Lightning Whip (whatever it's called). Comestion. Pawn-killing magic arrows. Flare and such. Any of the magic shield stuff. It's been years and I still remember that much.

>>385552792
divinity: original sin
divinity: original sin 2
ok that may be it

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>>385546313
Any character can grab onto harpies.
You can even reverse-snag them while in midair.

>>385553032
they do grow tired if you are fat or heavy though. If you wanna get someplace far or high you need to be light

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>>385552873
>Even after the exchange of their marriage vows Aelinore remained as pure and untouched as she was the day that she was delivered to Edmun.
>Used goods
I'll give you that she's at the least a little desperate, giving how fast she hops on your dick, but she isn't used goods

>>385552873
Is it ever explained why the duke goes full retard under the full moon?

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>>385553112
Tired fast, but it still works.
My Nugget got pretty much everywhere. It's interesting to see how many potions are left in high places. Anywhere there are harpies-type monsters there's hidden shit.
>>385553195
This is NOT the first time the Duke entered into her bedchambers. You can bet your ass you slammed the tighty cunny.
>>385553260
Probably somewhat drunk and has an episode or some thing. He's just old and kind of unstable all around.

>>385552873
I love the lightning whip spell and I'm glad the higher level spells arent just shit like fireball 2.

>>385553260
the dragon made him the duke and also gave him the ancient curse of gay

>>385552792
two worlds 2 (can do virtually everything with magic, from creating a bouncing fireball that spawns an undead each time it hits something and up to making anvil rains or walking on water)
underrail (psi walls, immolation that allows you to burn the entire fucking area to cinders, psi traps, etc.)
divinity original sin (a whole shitload of magical shenanigans from simply teleporting foes into damage zone and up to exploiting elemental combinations with hilarious effects)
virtually any dnd-based crpg starting with baldur's gate games and its insane magical arsenal and cleric/mage spell shenanigans
magicka
dragon's dogma magic is abhorrent even by ARPG standards and i will never get tired of laughing at fanboys who thing that awesome buttons are a good magic system

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Okay how do I avoid getting raped by Aelinore after doing Duchess in Distress and romance Mercedes at the same time?

>>385553410
Startle her a bunch to lower her affinity, or give Mercedes the Arisen's bond and don't talk to anyone you have a high affinity with before she gets jacked by Grigori

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>>385553367
>Pure and untouched
You popped her cherry in the manse

>>385553367
0:007 sheeeeit what is dis wack ass nigga doin

>>385553389
>two worlds 2
I only played the first one but I remember it being shit
>underrail (psi walls, immolation that allows you to burn the entire fucking area to cinders, psi traps, etc.)
You can do all of those things in DD
>magicka
Wow, ten variations of laser beam/damage wave/explosion

>>385540790
Skyrim has quite possibly the worst combat of any videogame in existence, let alone action RPGs.

>>385553543
Holy fuck thank you

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>>385553389
>who thing that awesome buttons are a good magic system
Yet, you keep saying that much without realizing your wrong? Most spells are damage or defense oriented but there is still a lot of other spells and you damn well know it.
If you want to tell us other games does it better... yeah, we know.
>>385553647
SHE
IS
A
SLUT

>shegoat
>jewtits
>gothloli

soo... which one?

>>385553767
The affinity system sucks, you can have so many people with max affinity, meaning if you aren't careful, Grigori might kidnap fucking Fournival or Symone instead of your waifu/husbando

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>>385553690
>You can do all of those things in DD
yeah show me a way to create magical walls that lock enemies inside the room or physically burn the entire location just by walking around
you have no fucking idea about what you're trying to talk about
>Wow, ten variations of laser beam/damage wave/explosion
beats the shit out of awesome buttons and actually makes you feel like a wizard

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>>385553882
>Didn't include Aelinore
Fag
>Didn't include Quinna
Good boy

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>>385553882
You forgot
>Cousin
I'll go with that one. Nothing better than slamming hot nun buns.

>>385553875
>there is still a lot of other spells
all of them are just generic direct buffs/debuffs, another staple of a shitty magic systems

>>385553890
Yeah they should've made it so that Grigori kidnaps the person with the Arisens Bond no matter what.

>>385553875
She is the purest of the main females, followed closely by Selene and Mercedes

>>385553934
>yeah show me a way to create magical walls
Comestion
>or physically burn the entire location just by walking around
Immolation

>>385542972
>Fighting basic enemies with nigh endlessly hp.
>After a few kills quickly start gathering resources insanely fast.
>Better off than starting in normal mode by jumpstarting leveling and equipment.
>Game easy as fuck again after a few hours.

>>385540551
Shadow of the colossus, and it didn't even need grinding.

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>BBI as a warrior

>>385540551
Nioh, Bloodborne.
That's literally it.
Retards might try to say something retarded like M&B, Gothic, or Dark Messiah, but that's shit taste kings.

>>385543307
Hard Mode becomes Easy Mode after a couple of levels and the amount of gold you get

Its meant for a new game+ run

>>385549796
Get the PC version, don't unironically cuck yourself.

>>385554569
Will the peepee version get the remake

>>385544057
>AI of the enemies is unchange
>Stamina drain is increase which decreases your damage output (effectively increasing enemy HP)
Yeahno.

>>385554569
You can't dress up like Guts and Griffith on the PC version so choose wisely.

>>385554752
Poopoo stats

>>385554659
It already did.

>>385554752
You can't on PS4 either.

>>385538864
>Game is all about combat
So the character/pawn customization, crafting, occasional decision making in quests, and Beloved system are about combat?

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>>385554031
Fuck you for having me have to look them up again.
Blearing
Grapnel
Lassitude
Necromancy
Silentium
Voidspell
Exequy
Petrification
Fulmination
Scension
Shadowpin
Rebuffer
Shadowshackle
Immolation
Vortex Trail
Magical Radiance
Perdition
Ruinous Sigil
Magic Cannon
Sky Rapture
Maelstrom Sigil
Sopor
Pretty much all of the Magic Shield skills.

Fuck off. I hope an Elder Ogre finds your ass.

>>385554508
Tw3 is better than both of those

>>385554828
If they're too bad, don't change to better gear.
Change your skills, to better skills!

>>385554508
>Retards might try to say something retarded like M&B, Gothic, or Dark Messiah, but that's shit taste kings.
But they're literally right in combat systems that incorporate the mouse. JK2 and several other games come to mind as well. Nioh and Souls games do combat very poorly.

>>385554828
>>385555000
Gold Dragonforged they are somewhat nice in stats. Only the weapon lacks any real punch.

>>385554897
You're entitled to your shit opinion but no one else will agree with it, which makes it pretty worthless.

>>385546453
>its an RPG

lol

>>385554508
>Bloodborne
Fuck outta here soulsbaby

>>385555223
He's not wrong.

>>385554883
Really? I thought it was just a port

>>385554884
Crafting?

>>385546453
It's a RPG, but not for those reasons.
>>385555247
Stats. Levels. Gear. Upping gear. Material/loot collection. Some crafting. Branching quests. Exploration.
It's a RPG.

>>385555516
>Call of Duty is an RPG

>>385553367
>Probably somewhat drunk and has an episode or some thing. He's just old and kind of unstable all around.
Almost right, He feels incredibly guilty after taking the Dragons deal and takes out his grief onto Aelinore.

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>assassin
>just spam threefold arrow with blast arrows

>strider
>just spam threefold arrow with blast arrows

>ranger
>just spam tenfold flurry with blast arrows

>warrior
>just spam jumping light attack

>fighter
>just spam dragons maw

>sorcerer/mage
>just spam holy focused bolt

what's the point of tons of classes skills gear etc if you end up using the same thing during you entire playthrough

>>385555223
I agree with him, cumstain.

>>385555567
Technically, yeah.
Any game where you can customize the outcome of a character you control is a RPG by definition.

A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game and abbreviated to RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making or character development. Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.

>>385555648
>end up using the same thing during you entire playthrough
>threefold
Faggot.

>>385555469
Combining, whatever. Though I guess most of it is for making items used in combat.

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>>385540882
Dragon's Dogma is about as RPG an Action RPG can get, what the fuck are you talking about

>>385555648
>spamming arrow skills as assassin or strider
>spamming bolt as a mage
Absolutely plebeian.

>>385556032

>not spamming threefold arrow with blast arrows while chugging mushroom pots and conqueror periapts

enjoy your 30min daimon fag

>>385556030
Deus Ex is more RPG but I agree with you otherwise.

>>385555457
No, the PS4 version is a port of the PC one.

>>385555085
When someone recommends a game where you freely move while swinging a melee weapon, you know it's a 100% shit FPS-derived PC melee game. It will have that inexplicably floaty feeling, terrible animations, inexplicably weak hits, it will be slow, etc.
>No hitstop.
>No/mininal hitstun.
>Lack of attack vatiety.
>No/minimal cancelling/chaining systems; reward systems are basic and typically involve few playstyles.
>Floaty as fuck thanks to the attack-while-moving feature.
>Lack of moves, moves are plain, leading to an overall lack of variety.
>Spacing, timing, punishing, and move selection fundamentals replaced with shitty back and forth shimmying.
Fighting games are literally the only games with good combat, but it least Souls/Nioh/DMC emulate some of what makes fighting games good.

>>385556176
Why dont you just finger of god him if you are just going to bitch out?

>>385556258
RPG is not a fucking spectrum your blue-haired agendered whale.
It either is or it isn't.

>>385555726
>>385555439
>>385555264
kek. you can all have shit taste together.

>>385538864
Why is this game getting so much praise then?

Why do you all hate Quinna?

>>385556295
>souls has good combat
Even Bloodborne wich is the one with most effort put into the combat has mediocre, shallow movesets and gives you little freedom. The only good thing I have to say about it is that the weapons look nice.

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>>385540750

>>385556352
So one game having a stronger focus on its RP elements than another is unimportant? They are both just RPGs?

>>385556560
Nobody is going to take anything you say seriously if you claim any Souls game has bad combat. That's wrong. That's not even an opinion, it's factually incorrect.

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>>385556539
She's so BORING. Plus I hate the "childhood friend" trope

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Is final battle quest actual final battle? Because if it is, it's very disappointing. If you cut all filler game is extremely short. Where is humanoid dragon then? I tried visiting bitterblack isle just to figure that shit is for ng+ or higher levels. So that's it?

>>385554241
>then you run into the drake at devilfire grove who'll rekt your shit until level 25 or so
>then you smash everything till post game and get rekt by upgraded enemies until level 35 or so
>then you go to BBI and get rekt by everything even at level 200 unless you git gud and/or get BBI gear

Sounds like you never really played the game.

>>385554569
I have a literal proto-toaster, aint happening.

>>385556696
>Is final battle quest actual final battle?

No.

>>385556665
That's reasonable, she is definitely the most boring.

>>385554727
>I CAN'T HANDLE HARD MODE EVEN THOUGH THIS GAME IS SO EZ

I don't know what to tell you bruh lol

>>385556560
I don't disagree with Souls being shallow, but so are all the Chivalrys/M&Bs/etc. The only difference between the two is one feels good, and the other is floaty/ugly garbage. If you want good melee combat, play fighting games.

My only real issue with dogma is the damage calculation formula. The combat itself is fun as fuck.

>>385556631
>They are both just RPGs?
Yes. Yes they are.

>>385556696
>Is final battle quest actual final battle?
Have you never played a game with a plot twist before?

>>385556727
What the fuck? I went into post game at level 40 something and I still got my shit wrecked.
On the contrary, I managed to rip and tear my way through BBI only to get stomped by Daimon at level 55.

>>385556950
>If you want good melee combat, play fighting games.

lol

>>385556727
I did though, and I went BBI hm challenge.
Are you saying you couldn't do it?
>Getting rekt in bbi at 200.
Christ.

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>>385556915
>>385557036
So there is more?
>Have you never played a game with a plot twist before?
I paniced for a moment because it really looked like last quest. Last main quest at least.

>>385556651
Where did I say it's bad, you retarded soulsfag? I said it's mediocre, wich it is. It does it's job on it's own it's simply not fun. Everything is solved by mashing R1 and dodging left.

>>385556950
I've never played those games

>>385541283
>>385557360
there isnt really much after that though, just a bunch of dungeons with the same general layout

>>385557383
>Even Bloodborne wich is the one with most effort put into the combat has mediocre, shallow movesets
Read your own post.

>>385557180
Please tell me how garbage like Chiv/M&B is better than something like GG.
Floatgames are slower, have less depth, less variety (practically zero compared to GG), less execution, have zero growth, less spacing, less moves and movesets, etc.

Go on, I want to see this.

>>385557515
he's right you know

>>385556492
It is? Where?

>>385555648
>>385556176
lol do people really run around abusing curatives and items throughout the main game instead of getting good/strong enough to not have to use those things as a crutch? I guess it would explain why so many people complain about DD.

Most people AFAIK only ever use blast arrow spam against Daimon during farm runs. It's pretty much a waste of resources in any other case.

>>385557650
If so, I'd like some examples that do it better.

>not playing a warrior male with a ranger female pawn
>not choosing Aelinore
Sad!

>>385556539
I like Quina, but jewtits is my DD waifu. It doesn't help her that one of the first quests in the game can easily be missed and that locks you out of her affinity quests, not to mention she goes to the monastery which is easily missable as well.

>>385558326
I always assume she dies in the forest if you don't help her.

>>385558319
Whenever I go warrior I go with a bunch of sorcerers because of the BBI shenanigans.
I don't like how Aelinore is pretty much forced on you.

>>385557257
I've done BBI right off the bat in a new game but I've never done it blind. I seriously doubt anyone has completed a straight to BBI run absolutely blind.

>Getting rekt in bbi at 200.
>Christ
Have you gone from vanilla DD to Dark Arisen blind? Have you ever tried to clear the room in BBI with the Elder Gore Cyclopses and maelstorm spamming sorcs without knowing about them before hand?

>>385559187
The maelstrom spamming sorcs were fucking retarded. I have no idea how fighters and warriors are supposed to deal with that shit