Is this the final definitive version or what? I've been

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>>385512531
>any arcsys game
>definitive version

No, there's definitely going to be another version. However, whether it's going to be a standalone release or a DLC over Revelator is unknown. It was safe to buy Revelator considering Rev2 was a cheaper add on DLC over it.

Because making characters for FG takes some effort, contrary to other games where you can pretty much reuse assets and call it a "new area."

The story isn't finished, there will probably be Rev3 too.

Also people still want some characters in this game. Some of Zappa, Robo-Ky, Anji and Testament are basically a given, probably all of them by the end of this. Bridget MAYBE for Rev3. Between that you'll still have to stick the fedoramask guy in since he's been pretty strongly lampshaded as playable in his character art, and then maybe Asuka/NewJustice/The Original as a final boss. It's going to take forever yet, my man.

>>385512531
For people who complain about the constant versions of Capcom games, Arcsys is infinitely worse. I wouldn't be surprised if even DragonBall had constant versions/updates, but due to licensing, that one might actually be safe to buy.

Well no it's not the final version, but they are all going to be DLC expansions from now on.

>>385513117
At least they're doing DLC expansions now, rather than purely standalone releases.

>>385513117
It's funny how things have changed. Capcom used to be the bad guys with multiple revisions and day 1 on-disc DLC characters. Now Arcsys has dethroned them in that regard.

>>385512531
Why are you actually waiting for the final version to finally learn the game though?

>>385513443
>day 1 on-disc DLC characters.
When did ArcSys do this?

>>385513546
Every game since Xrd Sign, or was it BBCP? I've forgotten.

>>385512531
Buy it. It's only 2 months old, price is decent and you're probably set for a year or so. I've jumped the wagon last week after few years since I played Reload and I'm not regretting it. Already have RAP4 shipped.

>>385513019
>>385512531

Bridget pls, it's not guilty gear if bridget isn't there to yoyo anons into submission.

>>385513546
Haehyun and raven were revelator dlc on release. However, haehyun was free for a little while starting day one and raven was obtainable via ingame means for free. Dizzy was later introduced as dlc and was also made free for a short period upon her release.

>>385513117
Well, Persona 4 Arena didn't have an updated version if you count Ultimax as an actual sequel.

>>385513751
Were they even free on PC?

>>385512531
That's why you buy SFV, one relevant definitive version forever

>>385513841
No. I'm pretty sure they weren't.

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>>385513443
Don't forget scamco. I will defend Rev2 just because right now complete package is for less than 30 GoodBoyPoints.

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>>385512531
yes, Guilty Gear Rev 2 is what everyone plays. have fun, anon!

The last fighting game I bought on release was DoA5 since I was hyped for it to return to PS systems.
What a fucking mistake that was.

>>385513117
>>385513443

>Street Fighter 4
>Super Street Fighter 4
>Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition
>Ultimate Street Fighter 4


>Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign
>Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator

There is 2 dlc characters for revelator and a dlc addon called Rev 2 which brings lots new stuff for single player etc. and 2 new characters.


Not too shabby so far.

>>385513841

Raven is free(Unlockable) on PC.

>>385512531
only ASW jew you like that these days.
everybody else stopped with that.

>>385512531
>jew sys
>definitive version

>>385513443
Capcom did it just as much as ASW, its just that Capcom stopped with it.
So ASW never truly overtook them, they simply kept on doing what they always did while others in the genre moved onto other (better) models.

>>385514104
insincere shitpost.
AE and USF4 were both DLC addons that both added more characters actually.
SSF4 also wasnt 60 at launch, it was 40.

and most of all capcom stopped while ASW still seem to pull their old tricks. only now they have started selling their balance patches as upgrade DLC rather than a whole 60$ game.

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EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST MAINS

>>385514342
Not the right thread to do that. The regulars are asleep

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>>385514342
UNGA

let me get this straight...............................................
I have to do the "chapter" thing with every character, then sit my ass on my chair and watch the "story mode"?

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>>385514342
hey anon, want to hang out with me in the corner for a while?

>>385514475
I mean if you just wanna see what each characters are up to. Generally.you just want to see Sol, Jack-O, Sin, Ram and Ky

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>>385514475
nope. if you want, watch story mode, nobody is making you. then if you want more sidestories, check out character chapters. or just, you know, play the game

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>>385514342
Been playing Ram since 1.0.And I'm glad I can utilize her potential correctly today.

>>385514475
You really don't have to do arcade/story modes. Other than the points and alternate colors you get, there's no reason to unless you like the story.

>>385514581
>>385514601
I like beating the game with every character
but I thought those were pre-story endings and there was another story mode where you beat the game and get more stuff to see
I'm not used to have animu on my games, how long is story mode?

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>>385514395
It's a Guilty Gear thread. It's the perfect time to post that.

Fuck it, I'm derailing this thread with actual GG discussion.

>>385514601
I want to main Violent Ky

>>385514342
I've been playing for a few days and still have no clue who to main.
In the combo trials I liked slayer and baiken, but after playing them in matches I'm not good enough to use them proper.

>>385514614
The idea of a kimono-liek clothing for her is really cool.

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>>385514942
you won't be good enough to use any characters yet. stick with whoever you're drawn to, and watch vids of pros with those characters

>>385514942
>slayer
Just bait out whiffs with le backstep meme and convert the resulting counterhit. Build up meter playing neutral back and forth and then you can start doing the really usafe shit and RC it on block once you have meter.

>baiken
Just do anything into tatami j.s j.d, you literally don't need anything else at the start, this does more damage than most bnbs, then work on doing a full groundstring before the tatami, then work on doing a full groundstring into H suzuran and the stuff you can down from the knockdown there.

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just play the game people

>>385515370

That would be great, but there's so many versions out there that it's hard to know which one to buy. It's also a bit frustrating knowing that the game you're buying isn't complete, and will later get a new version that may or may not be DLC for the current version.

>>385512531
if you learn an ASW games, you learn the lot

>>385514714
>Being upset that people are calling out [Insert YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME] on its shitty consumer practices.
It's annoying, isn't it? When people just non-stop never stop bringing up negative things instead of just talking about the game.

>>385515461
>That would be great, but there's so many versions out there that it's hard to know which one to buy.
Newest one, duh.

>>385515696

Now refer to my second point. I'll buy when I know the product is complete. As shit as western made fighters tend to be, you know that what you're buying is a complete package and any changes will be made through patches to the game, not an entirely new game.

whats a good fightstick for big guys with large hands

>>385515942
my dick

>>385515783
Fighting games are never complete unless dropped by their creators. Just pick it up now that the latest update is out, it's better to be hit by next update in a year thain in a month.

>>385515942
What size of ham hands are we talking about here? I've never heard of anyone with hands so big they had trouble using a stick.

>>385516027

>fighting games are never complete

This is why I don't buy.

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Paradigm and his tribe when?

>>385516083
large black man hands.

>>385516281

Nigger, do you even realize how many niggers are in the FGC? You'll be fine with any fightstick, you should be asking what is the best fightstick for new owners.

>>385514312
capcom releases new characters every few months you have to buy though, like a mobage

>>385515489
I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I did not read the OP. I saw an image of GG Rev2 and I came to post Guilty Gear.

That being said, Arcsys have the shittiest business practice regarding DLC characters. This has me very worried about DBZ since so many people are going to find out the hard way just how much they'll be paying for DLC characters.

>>385514312
>>385516464
Not to mention all their esports 15$ DLC packs, do you capcbros really think capcom is a saviour when it comes to DLC?

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>>385514312
>>385515489
>>385514170
>>385514126


Not that anon but in ASW's defence they are poorfag as fuck. Guilty Gear Xrd was made by a 24 man team with daisuke once again co-doing everything from directing, writing, composing to designing and even voicing the game.

Comparing Capcom, Warner brothers(NRS) and BandaiNamco to ASW is an injustice. I doubt any of their fighting games were made by 24 people.

I hope DB fighterz goes very well for them because they have the talent.

>>385516363
well, what is the best fightstick for new owners?
i want to mod whatever stick I get for the art and the buttons/joystick.

>>385516558

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=275142463

Good place to start. If you want a good moddable fightstick expect to drop at least $100.

>>385516495
Collaborative games that involve ASW only get 1 expansion at best if we use Persona 4 Arena as reference.

>>385512531
if it takes you years to decide to play a game you were never going to play it in the first place

>>385512531
>"Is this the final definitive version"

Ahahahahahahahaha

>Get KI
>Only spend money on the characters I want to play
>game lets me play against computer characters I don't own in training and versus modes
>this is a big fucking deal because I don't have to buy the character to learn the matchup
>on PC I can set it to Human and try the characters out in training mode
>has bundles unlike SFV
>said bundles have gone on sale or even free at one point

It's not a perfect system, but it works out really well. That and the only physical release of the game happens to come with seasons 1-3 and KI 1+2. I really wish more fighters would let you play against characters you don't own.

>>385516737
Yes, I am.
I've been doing it for years now. I only got Gravity Rush 2 yesterday and Pokémon Moon last week.

>>385516649
>Updated 13 May, 2016 @ 4:55am
Where is RAP4 and Razer?

>>385515942
I'm also interested in a fight stick, but I have no idea which one to buy. Any suggestions would be great.

>>385516649
This guide is outdated by at least a year, prices have changed a lot and some of these sticks are just straight up no longer available.

>>385517017

It was the first result I pulled up on google. Either way, it's a good way to get an idea of what kind of stick you want.

>>385517085
It's really not. The landscape of fight sticks has changed a lot since this guide was made and is missing a number of high quality sticks like the Razer Panthera, HORI RAP4/V, Qanba Obsidian, even the MadCatz TE2/TES+ are missing.

>>385517001
Then don't complain when a game gets an update to support the people actually playing it.

>>385516464
which is ultimately still cheaper?
hell you can unlock them for free.

and you dont have to buy shit.
with GG you HAVE to buy whatever garbage they throw at you, even if you're not interested in the characters at all.

>>385516953
>I really wish more fighters would let you play against characters you don't own.

I can't think of a single one that doesn't. But yes, KI is a great game.

>>385517225
I'll complain all I want, faggot.

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>>385516558
Let me answer a question with another question. Do you plan on maining Zato-1 or playing USF4?

If no to both of those, don't really need a fight stick to perform well and it'll save you a shitload of money. But if you're that guy that has money to burn and you really want a stick, go right ahead. Just remember that these aren't the days of Xbox 360 D-Pads, Dualshock 3s, or 3rd Party Mad Katz controllers everywhere. Both the Xbox One controller and the Dualshock 4 are great pads to begin with.

>>385516953
>>on PC I can set it to Human and try the characters out in training mode
You can't do this in KI. Don't lie to people.

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>>385516087
>>385515783

Who cares dude the fighting game experience is going to the arcade to play the latest version of your favorite series. The home version is the same shit, are you butthurt there's gonna be a new arcade version in a year with new improvements? Are you trying to ruin the arcade players fun by prohibiting novel improvements and updates to arcades?

Real fighting game players used to be upset they wouldn't be able to play the new arcade version at home in a year, you're upset they keep making arcade games arcade games...


If you don't like games improving then stick to playing ancient shit just make sure you don't add mods cause those may update too...

>>385516540
oh no cosmetics.
GG doesnt even have cosmetics period.

>>385517339
Yea, I forgot they changed that a while ago. I did it with Killgore

>>385516464
>just want akuma and balrog
> dont even care about the others
>have to buy two character pack dlc that costs together the same as the game

Fuck that, I should be able to buy single characters if I want, even if the total amount to get them individually surpasses the pack

To make matters worse, akuma's pack is not done and besides him has two literally who's that no one gives a shit about

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>>385517359
They dont get it.
Either they want games to not get support at all, which is retarded or they want devs to work for free which is not realistic at all.

When devs deliver you content they deserve to be paid for it and a well supported game helps active players a lot.
I still dont agree with how GG does it, but the way KI and SFV just let you buy the characters and bonus shit you want is absolutely fine.

>>385512531
>tfw you want to git gud at fightan but you keep breaking your controllers

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>>385517359
>Zimmerman trial was 4 years ago
Feels like only yesterday when I watched it live with all the 4chan shitposters

>>385515370
Your entire playstyle is gimmicks.

>>385513683

I would say 'dont worry' but you never know.

Daisuke himself has said that one of the plans for Xrd is to bring back all the cast of x2(ac+R) at some point, if its true, then you can be sure that (s)he will come when the time is right.

>>385517683
What?
You can get both of them for 5$ each or you can unlock them with ingame cash.

Why do you spread such a retarded lie as if nobody could call you out on it?

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There isn't a new version announced right now. Do it.

Anyway when the hell are we going to get some story about Bedman and Delilah.

>>385514342
Pirates for life!

>>385516953
I'd play KI if I did not have to play it in 800x600 in my mediocre PC. They are not better than GG in regards to what version to buy, though. Last time I checked it was a pain to know which of the bundles was the correct one.

>>385515783
Doesn't matter. If your hands are really big, though, you might want to switch the ball top for a bat top just like Infiltration.

>>385518039
How can I buy them for 5 bucks each?
The store on sony's site only shows 5 add ons to the game
Costumes pack
Pro tour pack
Story pack
And the two character dlc packs

>>385518153
>Last time I checked it was a pain to know which of the bundles was the correct one.
Did you last check a fucking year ago? Buy the Definitive Edition.

>>385518153
Probably after DBFZ is released and then half a year.

The xrd team has its hands full to work in xrd right now...

do any beginner level players on PS4 want to play a few games right now?

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>>385518529
Have you tried checking ingame?
How can you manage to miss the fightmoney store?
Jesus fuck if you only care about those two you can literally unlock them in like 20minutes of story play.

>>385518628
I only use the game for local versus
Honestly I never selected anything on the main menu besides the versus button

>>385518535
>Did you last check a fucking year ago?
Yes, actually.

>>385518569
I don't know how many of the Team Red members are working in DBZF. Ishiwatari and Mori said they weren't involved.

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>>385518737
Well then you've got some easy shit to unlock still.
The character stories are like two fights each and some images with text you can skip through, that gives you enough for 1,6 characters already.
Skip through the character demonstrations and you will have enough for Balrog and Akuma.

30minutes tops.

>dumb casuals who want to play fighters don't understand that sticking with a 13 character roster is what effectively kills the game

You'll play Dota, LoL and Overwatch days on end which receive updates and load the game with microtransactions, but the yearly update to a fighting that brings new balance changes and new characters is what drives you from the initial purchase?

>>385519037
Casuals also expect the games to launch with 60 character rosters at the same time.

>>385519110
Will they ever learn that game development consists of:

>having to create the characters from scratch
>on a limited budget
>with the publisher side of the company breathing down their neck that they need profits so they can keep their doors open
>the way to profit is to release a fighting game, keep interest in it and update it to avoid spending too much dev time designing characters from the ground up for a brand new series
>this is why some fighting games are around for years until the developer has to make something new to be their poster series

>>385519037

Yes, I will play games that get free updates with cosmetic microtransactions. I only have to pay for the game once, and in two of the three examples you gave, not at all.

Meanwhile fighting games get a mandatory $40 update.

>>385519356
Only ASW games, really.

>>385519110
Where is DOA core fighters in this?

>>385519458
>>385519356
To be fair, they "only" charged 20 dollarydoos for the latest guilty gear expansion

>>385519356
I'd much rather take an updated version for 20-40 dollars two years later that reworks everything in the game and adds more content without overloading the game with community content bullshit and locked microtransactions for costumes/mods.

Rev1 was a giant expansion for 40 dollars, Rev2 was a decently sized expansion for 20 dollars.

CentralFiction is getting massive balance changes for free, with the only additional cost for the DLC characters you can ignore.

But yeah, loot crates. A much better alternative to keeping a game alive as opposed to putting forth effort.

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Is Sols japanese VA the same guy that voices Alucard in Hellsing Ultimate?

>>385512531
just do it, its currently best fighting game look at those graphics artstyle, anime aesthetic air dash playstyle. if its not your cup of tea than get kof xiv second best fighter

>>385519036
Thanks anon, gonna unlock some characters

>>385520160

Glad to know I can completely discard your ridiculously biased opinion.

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>Bought Rev2
>I will try some episodes/arcade first but I can't play for shit on this Hori Mini gathering dust so I'm not in the mood
>I'd check the other games and anime
>that 3 Episodes are fine, I like the hell out of my Mini, I will order RAP and wait untill it comes
>I will watch SIGN story mode in a meantime to continue with stick as intended
>week flies by
Why the fuck I can't just sit down and play the game? I will probably sell and delete my other games just to focus on this one. I even lurk more in GG threads than have it on.

>>385520163
Nakata Jouji, yes. He's famous for his many roles. He voices Kotomine Kirei in Fate/Stay Night as well.

>>385520163
Yes
He is also sojiro in p5
Yusuke's VA is also that man and ragna in Blazblue
Futaba is also platinum from Blazblue
Having them interact with eachother at the cafe feels like sol and that man are chatting about art and sol is parenting platinum

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>>385512531
>Is this the final definitive version or what?
Pretty much.
AcrSys's RED team (GG's devs) is developing DragonballFighterZ right now, and the BLUE team is making the Blazblue crossover tag battle game (not that they would touch GG in the first place)

So for a good while there won't be any new GuiltyGear Xrd versions. At the very worst you'll get a new DLC character (there is 1 space left in the roster selectoin menu that could be filled) but more often than not they release it for free for a week or make it purcheseable with in-game money. Either way it's unlikely that they'll even release a single DLC character for the next year since DBFZ is eating up all their time, especially now that its popularity blew and their publisher is putting a lot of pressure into creating that game even more than before.

>Why are fighting games so dangerous to buy?
They are niche and cost a lot to develop. I'm sure if each fighting game sold 3 million copies at full price they wouldn't need to release 2 Xpacs. The current model (and has been for decades) is to release a new game and then add to it for the next 5 years or so.

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>>385520163
>mfw people keep asking in interviews with Daisuke if he will ever return to voice Sol and he just keeps saying no

>>385518868
Ishiwatari and mori are technically just the producers of those games (yes, I know both of them do character key art and daisuke does the soundtrack too) so they don't really need to be involved
Guess they are enjoying a one year vacation til dbfz comes out
Since I doubt they would work on balance patchs for GG and bb

>>385521116
Nakata is a better VA than him. He really drives the "too old, smart and powerful for this shit"
Daisuke sounded like a up and coming protagonost, not really sounding like some one who is supposed to be the centuries old dude who also happens to be the smartest dude around and one of the top five strongest beings in universe

>>385521454
It's not that I dislike Nakata's voice, I just can't associate it with Sol after having had Daisuke voice the character for so long. It doesn't help that they don't sound anything alike. When Matsuzaki Rei and Kawahara Yoshihisa in Xrd took over the roles of voicing Jam and Chipp respectively it didn't bother me as much because they sounded a lot like their predecessors.

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>>385514342

>>385513443
yeah now they just shit out each month garbage DLC for a game everyone hates but hey it's free

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>The first game's OST is still the best one
How did this happen?

>>385524772
Yes, Capcom is still shit, just another flavor of shit.

I don't really have a problem with ArcSys jewery. They're still pretty niche, so I don't mind paying them 5 bucks per six months for a new character. They're a small team so I understand why they need to jew a little to keep afloat.