>name is literally Noctis (nocturnal) >literally from a

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>>385510785
>How much exactly is missing from this game?
A LOT. there were scenes from 2015 trailers that weren't even in the game. a leaker who leaked the whole game months before release said that they rewrote most of the story less than a year before the game came out, which is why the movie, anime (specifically the ending), and all the other stuff don't seem to fit in with the final game. sad really.

Do you think that maybe Bloodborne was too similar plotwise ?

>>385510951
also, inb4 Tabata ruined everything

yes, he did ruin a couple of things. but a lot of the blame should also be placed on Luminous, which was the biggest problem throughout development. that all Square just fucking up in general

>>385511056
i'm 100% sure they don't care. besides, the whole sleep stuff existed long before Bloodborne did, and KH has similar themes. it seems like Nomura just likes the whole sleep, light/darkness stuff

>>385510785
>what the fuck happened to all this in the main game

It was shit so they scraped it and kicked the producer out. They then brought in someone else so he can finish the damn project that was stalled for like 10 fucking years.

The new producer did a way better job of cranking out the game and making back all production money.

>>385510951
Really hit me how much is missing from this game during Leviathon

God im still mad about it today, the sequence shown in 2013 was amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljtEg1VOVag

then it became it just a corridor fight with some flying shit at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmTkdh-uq9s

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i was pretty sad to have finished the game and never see this happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XldiYKWRkuw

>>385511401
well the 2013 was all cgi outside those scenes taking place where we fought Ifrit and the Iron Giant from the Plat Demo. I think this trailer kinda put them in a corner because the felt like that had to put the sequences in, but it's pretty clear they had no idea how. and i'm the consoles couldnt handle the destructible environments, which was a big aspect of the 2013 trailer.

i hope that this whole game teaches Square to stop releasing trailers so early, as it's done nothing but fuck them over

>>385510785

The game you can't play will always seem more fun than the final product.

>>385511814
I still enjoyed FFXV though, I just wanted MORE of it, same with MGSV

>>385511910
>I just wanted MORE of it
this, but with this gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6cOiVQZCXo

>>385511910
XV-2 seems extremely likely

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>>385510951
>tfw Japanese developers can't make open world games without cutting out the important stuff
>the trailers even have more story than the final game

>>385512019
>>385512053
they might as well make a Kingsglaive game using the same mechanics

also would be great to have actually explore Insomnia, smaller than the main open world but with more detail

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the strange thing about Tabata is that HE KNOWS how to make a good combat system, but got lazy somewhere along the way and decided to butcher all of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5_8kyz7o6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgf-Dme7GE4

>>385510785
>>385510785
Yeah it's kinda weird. I mean a lot of stuff was cut or changed, but the whole dreaming and starscourge thing seems like something that is way too important to just be removed.
It's just baffling how much changed even after mid 2015.
XV feels more like a test platform for young division 2 devs so they can learn shit and try shit out, if it had any other name that would've been fine, but it should've never become a mainline FF

>>385512347
I think it's more like the team knew it/ had a great idea back then, but for some reason every since Duscae this game relied way too much on feedback. So much that they redid the whole combat system like a year before release. No wonder it's unbalanced as fuck in the final game. If they have no clear vision themself they should've just cancelled it in 2011 or put it on hold.

>>385512153
At least Square is releasing cut story content as DLC which is something Konami would never do for MGS V

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>>385512447
>every since Duscae this game relied way too much on feedback
FUCKING THIS! just think about it anon, how much stuff in the game had been designed around the old combat system, and then a year before release they just decide to change everything. i'm sure a lot of boss battles were cut because of this, and it's probably why most of the bosses in this game are just extremely underwhelming. not to mention it was such a waste of resources.

it hurts more when i see the final quote from Tabata at the end of the video
>one of our most experienced battle planners is working on this
but then they just scrap his/her work a year from release. fucking hell man

>>385512368
And even in the final game the whole sleepy noctis thing makes no sense. He's just sleepy because and has 2-3 "visions" from Omen that are never brought up or mentioned in the game, even Noctis just wakes up as if nothing happened.
Honestly i doubt the story patches even mean much, they probably never had a backstory in mind for most things so everything they add will just feel like filler that they made up after the game was actually out.

>>385512754
A lot of thing just feel like they belong to the old combat system, especially the animations from enemies and bosses. The old combat system wasn't as over the top fast as the new one, but it would've worked way better with most bosses and shit. Right now you're 10x faster than any boss and enemy in the game. Even the small amount of stun and feeback that they have almost doesn't matter because you don't have to look for openings, everything is so slow that your whole moveset is an opening

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Somethin' dawned on me while I was on my own: any argument you make sounds better when you use good insults, right?
Then, if you take something already insulting like a thread derailment and add in the finest, freshest memes, what do you get? The ultimate shitpost experience!
So I ask you, /v/: what is your favourite meme?

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>>385513027
>sleepy noctis
the saddest thing about sleepy Noctis being cut is that we'll never get cute sleepy Noctis chibis

>>385513148
dude i hate how fast Noctisis in the new system, it just makes everything feel much worse than it already is. man, this game is heartbreaking

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>>385512019
>timing your attacks to parry his blade
>knock it out of his hands
>gladio fucking wields it

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>>385513487
>timing
that's too difficult anon, how about a giant parry prompt instead?

>>385512754
i never picked up ffxv but the duscae combat seems better besides lacking aerial combat based on this vid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2t2Si60Ak

>>385513694
That I could stand if it was on the easy difficulty only, but god damn it was really out of place when the slow giant monster was slowly attacking me and the prompt was flashing so intensely as if I didn't know what to do.
If the boy band roadtrip wasn't so enjoyable XV wouldn't be worth the money for me.

>>385513706
It's pretty much the same, but slower and with less features.

>>385513706
i never got to play it either (because i imported my type-0 from the US and i'm in the EU region), but i've seen that exact video and agree with you 100%. i feel like that demo's feedback ruined the game combat

>>385513901
i'm nor sure what you mean, because Duscae is slower than final game with MORE features, as is evident from the video. tabata said they were reworking the aerial combat, which is why it wasnt in that demo

>>385513980
I've not played Duscae in a while so I thought it had less features. TGS 2014 had the best combat anyway.

>>385513901
>less features
Well, yeah because it had less features for the demo.
Overall it was still more balanced imo and i'm still pissed that they removed weapon abilities. Sure the animations still exist, but i miss the abilites like life drain and stuff, it made weapons with weaker stats sometimes better than weapons with stronger stats. Now everything is just about stats.

Wish there was more meat to the world, cities and dungeons.

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>>385514086
I wish there was more meat to this delicious cup of Cup Noodles noodles.

>>385514086
You can tell they took inspirations from western open world games, but never made one themself, at least that big.
Only one hunt at a time in a world that big is just dumb

Whats the difference between the final game and the Duscae demo,never got to play it.

Some anons said they went overboard with the feedback

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>>385514316
look at this video >>385513706 and compare it to the final game. most of the features were removed in order to make it easier to play after people complained in the Duscae survey

like this anon said >>385514081, 2014 had the best gameplay. you can see that here >>385512347 the command menu was removed because pic related

>>385511414
When they revealed the FFXV custom PS4 I got all hyped because I realized(or thought I realized) that the texture they added to the logo was moon craters.

>>385514316
Visuals were better, but resolution was lower.
As in overall substantially better graphics but 720p instead of 1080p.
Combat was substantially better, felt like a slightly more clunky Kingdom Hearts.
Noctis' had much more mature sounding voice actor.

>>385514316
In Duscae you could build a set of multiple weapons and basicly create your own combo and could extend it depending on how long you keep it going etc. Weapons also had active and passive abilites, same had HP drain, some MP drain, ome more crit% etc. And active abilites that could be performed anytime with a button press for example that dragoon jump with the lance. The parry system was also a bit more strict and was only a small golden flash on the screen istead of a huge multiple second long button prompt. Link attacks were also not automatic, you would have to move into a circle near your party member if you want to exectue it.
Overall it wasn't complete because it was just a demo, but it felt like something that had more potential than what we got, whcih just stripped most of the RPG elements

>>385514549
it's kinda funny how the moon has pretty much nothing to do with the story but they still put it on the custom ps4. rewrites sure are a bitch

>>385512347
>uploaded by xv-kun
The irony

>>385514712
Ferrari, the guy who did the artworks for the game, basically said he washes his hands off this game because of how so much shit he made got cut or butchered.

>>385514598
>Noctis' had much more mature sounding voice actor
Ray Chase said Tabata told him to change the voice and save it for older Noctis (which he never did), although I'm pretty sure that Tabata only said that because everyone complained in the demo

>>385514751
which is his channel?

>>385514813
>Ray Chase said Tabata told him to change the voice and save it for older Noctis (which he never did), although I'm pretty sure that Tabata only said that because everyone complained in the demo
I know, point is that Noct had MUCH better voice. The final game one sounds like a teenager and not a young adult.

>>385514789
i don't blame him. i'd be pretty pissed too

>>385514865
duscae demo was a mistake

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>>385514540
>I'M OLD AND I DON'T LIKE SOMETHING SO NOBODY SHOULD HAVE IT

>>385514598
>Visuals were better, but resolution was lower.
The only thing that was better was the stylised lighting. A small, but big difference.

>>385512717
It's hard to develop DLC when you've fired most of your dev teams.

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i must say, despite being a little slow, this is the comfiest ffxv thread i've been in for a while. if only he didn't exist, we could have this more often

>>385514813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5_8kyz7o6I
This one, he even said it in these threads a few times. But of course he always says "how could i have known at the time!" "i never said that the combat system was good back then!"
Why can't this guy just admit that things change ffs.

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>>385515191
>The only thing that was better was the stylised lighting
this. if they kept the same lighting, the final game would have looked much better and we wouldnt have had disgusting looking cutscenes like pic related

>>385515318
At least you can say what you liked and disliked about the new and old versions. For him saying anything about pre final release XV means you're a shitposter or soe random fanboy or username from gamefags.
Ironically the biggest "fan" ruins" every thread, he even keeps going non stop on twitter

>>385510785
FFXV is the MGS5 of Final Fantasy.

>>385510785
Final Fantasy XV is the JRPG equivalent of Metal Gear Solid V, anon. What did you expect?

>>385515441
I don't get why they didn't. High end settings Luminous might be a bit too much for consoles, but Duscae ran fine considering how old the built was. They had 2+ years to optimize it and even showed graphs and shit of how they could suddenly use way more GPU and CPU. They should've just used lower poly models for gameplay and higher poly models for cutscenes, it's really not that hard and a lot of devs do it. I don't even mean PS3 level polygons, but XV models had way too many polygons to the point where you wuld barely notice a difference if they stripped away 10-20% they even had a comparison image somehwere.
Luminous feels more like a tech demo than anyting else, the game looks great sometimes but also horrible at times. It's one of the most inconsistent games i've played this gen. When FFXIV has better use of screenspace reflections then there's really something wrong.

>>385515603
>>385515703
Something tells me this is the same person, and I'm not sure why.

>>385515441
The new lighting can look good at select times of day, but in general Duscae's lighting is miles better

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>>385510785

I feel bad for people who paid any money for this game. I'm glad the Platinum Demo and subsequent trailers put me off.

Nothing they do will ever capture the magic from the 2011 trailer.

F

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>>385513694
I miss the old parry.
I don't need a 5 second long button prompt that takes up half the screen to remind me of the only defend button in the game.

>>385515191
>The only thing that was better was the stylised lighting. A small, but big difference.
No anon.
Shaders were substantially better, there was wind sway effects on grass and trees that's missing in final game, shadows were more detailed, water had reflections and refractions in addition to moving in the wind and whatnot.
And color palette was overall warmer and more realistic.

>>385515764
Tabata feel for the graphics meme, sadly. That are Square must have forced him to. The strangest graphical change from Duscae for me just have been the water reflections. What the hell happened there?

>>385516015
The OST is still pretty good, but i just can't listen to it anymore. Shimomura still did a good job, not her best one yet, but it wil lalways remind me of shit that could've been in XV. Especially the 4-5 tracks we heard up until Duscae

>>385515603
>>385515703

MGSV was actually good, albeit incomplete to people for some reason. XV is very incomplete, and the gameplay sucks.

>>385516089
>The strangest graphical change from Duscae for me just have been the water reflections. What the hell happened there?
They're the same, the water shader just did a better job at hiding the SSR artefacts

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Reminder that

-Tabata wanted an open-world mostly because western AAA games were doing it and he wanted to stay competitive

-Designs for Kingsglaive were changed so they could pander to the western GoT audience even if it clashed with the actual game

-Tabata going on record saying a game should be brain dead easy to play hence the hold circle

-Tabata being generally clueless and promises shit without having planned for it from the get-go like the flying car

-Tabata claimed for years that FFXV was Versus but then quickly changed tunes when the community busted his lying ass

-Tabata ordered the whole script rewritten and large parts of the game were plain unfinished just months until launching

I was excited as fuck for Altissia but it turned out to be one of the most boring and ugly cities in FF with a horrible layout

>>385516032
What's funny is that KH, a kids game, didn't even feel that this was necessary. Tabata didn't even put it in Type-0, so why the hell did he put it here?

>>385516167
>Tabata wanted an open-world

Isn't that what Nomura wanted originally?

>>385516207
Yes. Ignore him, let's not derail the thread into baseless accusations please.

>>385516116
Half the OST isn't even her. Go look at the actual credits. Tabata is a fucking hack.

Most of Shimomura's stuff is going to end up in KH3 anyways like all the cut gameplay systems, monsters, and night shit.

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>>385515441
This geniunely looks worse than FFXII on emulator.

How fucking dumb are these SE devs?

>>385516207
I think so, but in interview Tabata said that the dev team told him it would be better to have basicly open ended areas with things attached to them to make the whole story driven part better and the engine could handle it better. Even if Nomura wanted it to be open world, i higlhy doubt Tabata did it because he thought of Nomura at the time.
The whole director and dev team disconnect happened way too often during XVs development, why does this guy rather listen to fanfeedback from a limited demo than his own dev team

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>>385516207
Nomura's original words were "open areas" that were later then converted into open-world by an article that mistranslated it. The actual quote, Nomura says he wanted large open areas.

There is a big difference. And even then, Luminous engineers did warn Tabata that the open-world vision would not hold up with this engine and he still ignored them.

>>385511081
You could say it was also the fault of XIV's failed launch and the XIII trilogy.
They kept pulling staff from Nomura's Versus team which is why they never moved past early development when it was still being made for PS3.

>>385516362
>that recent interview with Nomura where he made fun of Tabata for all this shit

>>385516320
Yeah i saw that and you can easily tell. All the Shimomura tracks or the ones writen during the V13 years sound like they belong into a different game than the rest. Everything after Duscae/PLatinum demo tracks was just over the top orchestra or straight up elder scrolls rip off

>>385516167

You're just as bad as, if not worse than XV-kun.

I just want

World Maps
Airships
and Towns

Fuck FFX for bringing about the end of the fun.

>>385516441
Do you have the exact quote? Nomura must surely hate Tabata and vice versa.

>>385516476
There's a difference here. Tabata is a consistent hack that has butchered everything he touched and only knows how to kill franchises and ruin stories.

Look at what that faggot did in 3rd Birthday.

>>385516576
Lost Odyssey had all of that ironically. It was the real FFXIII imo, but tons of people will never play it

>>385516439
>>385511081
It's SE's upper echelon's general incompetence, rather than the actual development staff.

Nomura was barely given any resources to work with, whilst all the money and manpower was poured into XIV and the XIII trilogy.
By the time he was given the actual resources to make the game he wanted, he was pulled out to work on KH3 and VII remake.

Tabata was given a project with a broken engine, a setting and a plot that would've required more assets than what they already had, and a hard deadline. Also, SE butted in to make a fuckton of promotional shit like Kingsglaive, which probably fucked up a lot of the game's plot, and made the assets the team have made under Nomura virtually pointless.

>>385516320
>Half the OST isn't even her
which did she do anon? i didn't know this, but it sure explains a lot

>>385516439
i know anon, that's why i said square fucking up. pretty sad really, because everyone just blames nomura for everything that happened

>>385516441
please provide source

>>385516476
just ignore him anon

>>385516595
He just said listening too much to fans is bad and the game stops being your game once you do that.

He also said KH3 and FFVII remake are taking forever because Square keeps shifting staff around and pulled the rug out from under the dev team a year into development on both and told them to switch to UE4.

>>385516203
"Fan feedback"

Remember all the Active Time Reports and shit that happened a while back after the Duscae demo?
They were taking in a lot of feedback from fans. Fans of FF in general, a lot of which probably doesn't understand the intricacies of what make a good action game.

>>385516693
>Tabata was given a project with a broken engine, a setting and a plot that would've required more assets than what they already had, and a hard deadline. Also, SE butted in to make a fuckton of promotional shit like Kingsglaive, which probably fucked up a lot of the game's plot, and made the assets the team have made under Nomura virtually pointless.
dont forget Square forcing him to condense 3 games into 1. people always seem to forget about this. Tabata did make some bad decisions, but a lot of the blame should also be placed on Square and Luminous

>>385516771
>He just said listening too much to fans is bad and the game stops being your game once you do that
kek i remember this. that fucking duscae demo man i swear

>>385516840
All the Active Time Reports were so weird, it felt like they had one every week.
It's alright for an MMO where you actually want feedback and give updates all the time, but for XV it felt more like they had the ATRs because they were afraid that people forget about it if they don't show it every month

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>>385516771
>He just said listening too much to fans is bad and the game stops being your game once you do that.
He's right on the mark. Listening to the community might work for FFXIV where SE are clueless how to make MMOs but for SP experiences, SE should rely on their own established directors to push forward.

Tabata just struck me as a very insecure and shallow man who was desperate to please just about anyone he came across instead of just saying "hey fuckface, this is my game and we have a vision and we will follow that vision". Instead it turned into surveys and focus tests and rewrites and endless other shit that plagued the game and resulted in a confused mess of nothing.

>>385516840 related directly to this >>385516771

i think Tabata just lacks confidence in his own ideas. which makes sense since it was his first big project. but he shouldnt have asked fans for help and instead all the other directors in Square that wouldve definitely offered better advice. like fucking Nomura and Sakaguchi or something, but not fans who have no idea how game development actually works

>>385516576

Type-O had these I think.

XV has these too, but the most lackluster versions possible. The one town is tiny, the aircar is completely pointless, and the world map is absolutely empty save for a handful of dungeons.

>>385516937
They should've just done a whole new XV imo. Why take V13 of all things when they know that it would need huge changes, rewrites and a new engine and shit.
Is there really noone left that can just make a normal FF game with a clear vision from start to finish. No innovation or shit like that, just improve on old games.

>>385517123
relates*

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He was supposed to save us bros

Why didn't they just let Nomura make his game?

>>385517341
Because he can't ever release a game.

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I think it's hilarious how From Software made like 5 Soulsborne games in the time span it took SE to make just one FF game.

And each and every one of those Soulsborne games are infinitely better than FFXV.

>>385517067
SE was fine with regards to FFXI for the longest time. Vanafests were some of the best developer/player meet ups in MMOs for the longest time and they were able to consistently give players content without having to bend over backwards for fan demands. The problem was that FFXIV bombed so hard they changed the entire staff and remade the game from the ground up and wanted to make sure they made exactly what the community wanted.

>>385517172
Square keeps letting incompetent people handle FF and either moving the director of the current one off the project or firing them. First Matsuno, then Nomura.

At least they were somewhat justified with FFXIV, but even then YoshiP is really fucking bad at what he does and has mostly been on a lucky streak.

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>>385517139
>Type-O had these I think.
i did. i was suprised to see how much good stuff in Type-0 Tabata completely forgot about when making FFXV.

>>385517067
>"hey fuckface, this is my game and we have a vision and we will follow that vision"
this is what i like about Nomura. people always complain about KH's story, but he couldn't care less. he sticks to his guns, and that's definitely a respectable decision. besides, i like KH's original characters and story in general

maybe Tabata just has low self-esteem like most of us here. i do sometimes feel bad for him. i hope his next game (TYPE NEXT PLEASE!!!!) is great and super successful and redeems him a little

>>385517341
Because shit was so fucked at the time with Wada that basicly all HD games were delayed by years, to the point where Nomura was shifted to i guess more important games like 7R and KH3. Which is weird to say considering XV is a fucking mainline FF game, but even now it's still in development

>>385517424
Tabata is just bad. Look at Type 0 and 3rd Birthday. The man is really just bad and always has been.

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>>385517385
don't say that, it hurts his feelings. besides, you're forgetting all the KH handhelds he released. the delays were square's fault, not his. see >>385516693
>>385516439

>>385517406
Well, they're more linear and don't push for polygons and innovation and shit. Not that that's a bad thing, just a bad habit of Square where games always need to be bigger and better looking and have billions of polygons for each hair and shit, gameplay and level design and all that always seem to come later ever since 13. Even 14 1.0 had that problem. One flower pot had more polygons than a palyer character has right now and the gameplay barely worked

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>following the game since elementary school (Versus days)
>actually preorder XV after the Uncovered event
>watch Brotherhood as episodes release
>watch Kingsglaive
>finally feel ready for when the game comes out
>game does come out
>almost everything related to the original story is gone
>Insomia isn't a playable area
>Luna fucking dies
>Ardyn suddenly the most interesting character despite being in like two trailers
>no boss battle against Glauca because he dies in the fucking movie
>only thing tying XV to any promotional material is some cutscenes sprinkled throughout and some dumb useless weapon
>Versus outfits aren't in the game, or at least dlc
>mfw bought the fucking collectors edition
I don't know whether I should cry or fucking kill myself. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun but jesus fuck I've never been so disappointed in my life. I wasted at least ten years of my life just waiting for this game to come out. I want Versus XIII back.

>>385517385
Irony being that almost every project Nomura was directing or producing at the time Square kept fucking with him on Versus came out just fine.

>>385517385
Will this shit forever be a meme now util the end of time? Everywhere you go on the internet especialyl people that don't know much about FF or KH just say haha it's nomura his game all take 10 years even though it was only v13 so far and that barely counted as a fucking game for years and wasn't his game ever since 2012/2013

>>385517640
Are all the executives in SE complete retards? At this point I can barely think of a recent SE game that didn't have reports of higher-ups fucking things up.

>>385517819
>At this point I can barely think of a recent SE game that didn't have reports of higher-ups fucking things up.
but moving KH3 and FF7R to Unreal 4 might have actually saved them from the hell that FFXV went through anon. the delay was worth it imo. Luminous should be shelved until next gen

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Sometimes I wish Nomura would just leave SE and join forces with Kojima.
Then I remember he can't take the KH IP with him.

>>385517819
Pretty much all the top tier people from the Squaresoft days left after the Enix merger and everyone from the old guard has either been fired or fucked over constantly. Even Kitase gets fucked left and right.

They're going to destroy FFVIIR too now that they've replaced Nomura with a mobile phone game director.

>>385517947
KH3 and FF7R got hit hard by moving to UE4 though. They had to redo the entire first year of work for KH3 including rebuilding gameplay systems from the ground up.

Square is just doing to their devs what Capcom did with trying to build Panta Rhei to replace MT Framework then making every single game switch to UE4 all of a sudden. Thank god the new Monster Hunter is MT Frameworks.

>>385517947
I don't get their plan with new engines, especialyl something like Luminous that doesn't seem to scale well like let's say FOX or Frostbite. They always take 4-5 years to make those engines, start out with giving them to 2-3 dev teams, then moving to other engines with most dev teams which always takes 1-2 years of dev time away. And by the time the game/engine is "done" all other games already use finished engines that are easier to use.
What´s the point in making an engine for years when only one team knows how to use it and the next time they'll use that engine probably won't be until 1-2 years from now if at all

>>385517998
These two men have one thing in common at least. They both know how to cut a trailer.

That fucking first FFXV trailer when it was still Nomura's game was so fucking good.

>>385518089
>They're going to destroy FFVIIR too now that they've replaced Nomura with a mobile phone game director
wait WHAT?

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>>385517998
Just imagine the plot of their games.

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>>385510785
I hope DQXI obliterates XV in sales just to prove a point that chasing after normalfags who want open world, mundane semi-realistic settings and castrated action battle system doesn't pay off.

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>>385518089
>They're going to destroy FFVIIR too now that they've replaced Nomura with a mobile phone game director.

Holy shit what?

>>385518089
The guy isn't the new director though, he's basicly the same position as the guy from the KH team. They just keep track of things while Nomura switches from Osaka back to Tokyo all the fucking time. At least they have some decent combat people in their teams.
XVs division is just too filled with young people that treat XV more like a playground

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>>385517998
>>385518192
with Miyazaki as well, it will be one hell of a ride

>>385518294
Didn't they put the Mobius director on FFVIIR last year?

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>>385518192
does Nomura ever wear anything that isnt Roen?
he's as committed to it as xv-kun is to defending ffxv

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>>385518525

>>385518525
He's friends with the designer.

>>385517998
KH would die without Nomura anyway, same as MGS did without Kojima.
The problem is that if Nomura leaves he probably isn't allowed to take his team with him, so he might as well quit all together once he leaves.

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>>385518525

>>385517406
>soulsborne
Only cancer calls games like that
I like both Souls, BB and FF XV, but DS2 is shit and by any means isn't better than XV

Noctis literally has fucking headaches that cause visions you dipshit.

>>385518323
Nomura is friends with Yoko Taro so it'd be more likely we'd see a Nomura/Taro/Kojima team up.

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>>385518651
>if Nomura leaves he probably isn't allowed to take his team
I can't imagine Nomura without Shimomura. also can we please talk about how CUTE Shimomura is!

>>385518562
He looks straight out of Yakuza with that hair and outfit.

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>didn't follow game at all, bought it essentially on a whim as a package deal with berseria at a local shop
>"wow, not bad. i like hanging out with my bros!"
>go online to talk it over
>"10 YEARS"
>"HACK"
>"EP DUSCAE"
>holy fuck

That was some of the craziest gap between my impression of a game and what actually happened that i've ever experienced. it was a really wild moment

>>385518169
>They both know how to cut a trailer.
That guy with the glasses cut Zone of the Enders 2 intro so good that basically entire plot was summed up, there wasn't anything left to play after you hit main screen.
He's a hack, he knows how trailers generate hype so he's playing to that factor instead of showcasing the game or generating interest for the plot.

>>385517998
>FFXV 2013 trailer is Nomura's MGSV Red Band trailer
>it still hurts
>both coincidentally were trailers at 2013 E3
>both Kojima and Nomura were fucked by the board

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>>385518738
>a game with taro, kojima, nomura, and miyazaki

>>385518738
I want this to happen at least once.

>>385518738
We are going to stray further from god if this team assemble.

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>>385518835
he's a sexy man

>>385518738
Nomura seems to be friends with fucking everyone, Shimomura loves him, Ferrari followed him to 7R despite the V13 problems, he's friends with Kojima and most people at Square and freelancers etc.
Kinda weird

>>385518980
Taro is good friends with Matsuno too.

>Nomura/Kojima/Taro/Matsuno game
>Shimomura and Keiichi Okabe soundtrack

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>>385519008
Why does he always have that "I'm dead inside" look?

It could have been worse. At least the beginning and endings we're strong.

>>385519094
It just shows how insular the development community really is especially when you get into generational gaps. Basically all the top tier devs of the late 90s and 00s in Japan are friends.

>>385519150
He just found out Square changed the development engine again and need half his staff to help finish FFXV dlc and the next FFXIV expansion. Plus Square put out an E3 trailer with him credited as director on a game he didn't even know he's directing.

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>>385519150

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>>385519094
Well i guess you could say that His friends are his power.

>>385519150
you would too if you had his workload https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura#Works

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>>385519259
posting the superior version

>>385519127
>>385518821
>Shimomura loves him

I remember reading an interview a while back, she actually has a nickname for him. It's quite cute.

>>385519150
Hard to stay optimistic when you've been fucked over by SE for the last decade. Especially looking at Toriyama, who was given the resources to lead 3 whole games.

>>385519278
Not to mention how much fucking art he draws at the same time, he draws illustrations for almost every Square game at this point even Dragon Quest got some or fucking Smash Bros.
At this point i'm afraid that KH3 might not have a hand drawn main menu

>>385519008
>>385519150
The serenity in the eyes of those who will postpone a game

>>385519373
>Especially looking at Toriyama, who was given the resources to lead 3 whole games.
THIS! after X-2, they let him have 3 full games. while Nomura constantly gets shafted despite being the creator of one of the biggest series outside FF

>>385519427
and he designs most of the merch being sold on Square's site. i seriously feel bad for this guy

>>385518821

I'm pretty sure she isn't actually part of his team, she just keeps working with him because they're like an old married couple. If he leaves I'm sure she'll follow him.

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>>385511081
>>385516439
>>385516693
Crystal Tools was a lot worse than Luminous. At least Luminous was focused solely on xv while Crystal tools fucked over multiple games. Also SE makes really strange business decisions, they've basically been screwing over nomura and tabata for the past decade.

>>385519427
Funny enough he's also the character designer for only good looking characters in Xenoblade 2. He's apparently the designer for all the characters in the enemy organization.

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>>385519480
kek these fucking captchas are making me lose my mind

>>385511081
Even then his directing was in very poor taste (or in the context of food technically too much good taste).

Most of the trailers and demo showcases of shit after him being placed as director which was WAY before the actual announcement was showing of food, hiking and car trips like it was some slice of life game, should have just stuck to tragedy and combat. Games world is both too big and barren and car roads take up too much of the landscape.

So much cool shit you could have done with the theme of a character that can warp to sword and conjure them from thin air. Instead with have a very boring, bare bones combat system which feels very draggy and slow to play. Not to mention some of the worst bosses I have seen in gaming.

Another overly ambitious project which scraps half its work and ends up being mediocre at best

Feel sorry for the employees

>>385515441
What the fuck was the point of his character? He dies offscreen after meeting Noctis once and kicking his shit in. Why the fuck set him up as a anti-hero whos the brother of Noctis' love interest if you're going to introduce him as some badass once then have him be a dead body on the floor the next time you see him?

>>385519150
nomura is their golden boy they saddle with tons of big projects

>>385519870
>What the fuck was the point of his character
he was in the versus trailers so they had to keep him. this is the case with most characters, most noticeably Cor, which is why most of them seem to have a forgettable role

>>385519870
Because he was once a different character but then Tabata happened. Remember the Assassin's Creed looking mother fucker from when FFXV was shown in 2013? That was him back when it was still Nomura's game.

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>>385517406
>Episode Gladios and Ringed City released in the same day
>Ringed City trailer has 1m views
>Gladio's DLC ~200k

>>385519768
>food, hiking and car trips like it was some slice of life game

See, this part of the game was actually good. The whole boyband bonding roadtrip bit was the actual fun part of the game, and clearly a lot of effort was put into it. To the point where I cared enough about the boys to feel legitimately saddened by Ignis losing his vision, and the discord that leads from it.

>>385519870
Leftover from versus, probably. From the trailers, it feels like he's being built up as a rival character, especially with that one shot of 2 of them with all their kinda similar types of magic unloaded and the standing there. and there's still a very small trace of that in XV.

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He was dreaming about this

>>385520021
kek this is really sad, especially when you consider how many more people bought FFXV

>>385518738
>>385518942
>asking for the most cancerous game yet from 3 hacks

>>385520156
God I remember when this popped up randomly on youtube once.

I thought it was one of those chinese ripoff games. Then I saw it again.
I know it's kinda become a meme word at this point, but I physically cringed when I realized it was official. Jesus.

>>385520159
Even sadder when you think the composer for Nier did the theme of the dlc and the Battle on the Big Bridge arrangement.

Are you gonna be playing the beta, /v/?

I legit hope that it has all the scratched game mechanics and attacks from 2013/2014 showcases considering the achievements leaked that cross chains return.
Plus an actual magic

>>385520291
I played the beta ever since the game came out.
As far as multiplayer goes, nah. Especially since you need the season pass for it. I probably won't touch it again until i can pirate it on PC

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>>385520278
and they were so good too. what a waste.

>>385520291
i want to, mostly for the same reason you do (2014 mechanics), but i'm sadly away at uni until September. part of me wishes Tabata would just patch in the old 2014 combat, but that will sadly never happen. instead we get invincibility suits in a game where it's impossible to die outside of the deathtrap that is the airship

>>385520278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeptoQVfHwQ
I never understood how this shit is supposed to represent Gilgamesh. I wish his cameo was as good as the one in XIV

>>385520291
The beta seems a bad joke for the ppls who want an announcement of FFXVI

>>385520262
Come on, that car joust is fun.

I mean Noctis' run cycle at the end is comically terrible but the sword joust is fine.

>>385520159
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Dark Souls 3 is more profitable for From that XV for Square Enix.
It was rather low-budget game with a lot of reused assets from Bloodborne and previous Souls game.
Dark Souls 3 surpasses 3 million shipments in less than one month.

FFXV has giant marketing company, movie, anime, higher budget, and bigger team, working on it. Yes, it broke 6 million shipments in first week. But you know what? After half of year, on recent Q&A SE still were talking about 6 million copies. Despite constant sales and DLCs, people moved on really fast.

>>385510785


When the night has come
And the land is dark
And the moon is the only light we'll see
No, I won't be afraid
Oh, I won't be afraid
Just as long as you stand
Stand by me

>so deep... so did not base a large portion of their game around a 50+yr old song

>>385520658
I was talking about the actual mobile game in general. The new one that cutscene is from. ,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.epicactiononline.ffxv.ane&hl=en

>>385520594
Because it's the ghost of Tabata's type-zero gilgamesh instead of goofy kabuki benkei gilgamesh.

>>385520594
It's sad how much better the combat system in the DLC is simply be stripping away most of the shit in the main game. A simple dodge roll, simpe parry without huge prompt, limited but good moveset etc.
Enemies movesets were still weird though, everything had 3-4 second pauses after all of their hits

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>>385520674
it probably was. i think the most profitable game for square in recent years has to be Nier. it was obviously somewhat cheap to make, yet it sold a whole lot. I'm happy for Yoko

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I can't wait til the full story behind this game's development comes out. I don't give a shit about FF as a franchise and this game in particular was always going to be SE's Duke Nukem Forever but the stories behind games that undergo total rewrites are always super fascinating. Maybe we can pinpoint the exact moment the concept became unsalvageable.

>>385520830
it was almost exactly the same as duscae demo actually. they really shouldnt have changed it

>>385520951
I really hope the guys that did that FFXIV documentary covers this game eventually.

>>385520951
It probably will never come out, much like how we'll never find out about Kojima and Konami.

>>385520674
It probably was, not overall sales, but just by comparing budget to sales/winnings.
Sure FFXV sold/shipped 6 million but it took them almost 5 million to get even. Shit like Dark Souls or Automata probably has a fraction of the budget and doesn't need a new eninge and shit, but stoll sell 2+ million copies.

>>385520802
>Tabata's type-zero gilgamesh
but that version was the same as all the others anon. ffxv is the only one where he's actually vastly different

>>385520951
Probably won't happen. the XIV docu was great, but the XV/V13 docu would be like 50 parts long and they most likely don't want to admit most of it.
People can hate XIV all they want, but man YoshiP is at least as honest as it gets.

>>385521070
Are you talking about the True Gilgamesh fight or Gilgamesh the character? The fight was normal Gilgamesh but the character didn't act anything like the previous versions of Gil.

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>>385521005
>>385521134

It might take a decade, but eventually some disgruntled employee is going to release a tell-all covering everything he knows about, even if it is anonymously. We've already learned a lot about how much was lost from MGS5, and it was all really interesting, even as someone who doesn't give a fuck about MGS past 1.

>those sequences where they just shoved in footage of Kingsglaive with no audio and also put in the Omen trailer for some reason
What were they thinking?

>>385510785
>the entire trip is a dream
No.

>>385520570
>part of me wishes Tabata would just patch in the old 2014 combat

Same
>Cuhrayzee armiger
>Combo attacks that don't look and feel like a weightless slog
>Actually good combay camera that's neither panned out too much nor too close to Noctis
>Jumping over enemies Prince of Persia style

>Never Ever

https://youtu.be/xNdGGlHtmcg

>>385521281
They weren't

>>385510785
He sleeps a lot, too.

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>>385520951
The problem is the period between 2010 and 2013. The versus team having to wait for crystal tools to be finished and then being pulled off to work on FF13 is well documented. The time after Tabata and his team coming in is also well known. But the period in which the versus team actually got to work on it is a mystery, with contradicting leaks and rumors filling in the gaps. All they've admitted for sure is that crystal tools was a shitshow

>>385510785
Why didn't brotherhood just take place in game? It literally could save the story. Granted it wouldn't be great, but you'd understand it a lot more.

>>385521494
Probably the same reason Kingsglaive didn't take place in the game.

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>>385513209
The "Iggy is blind" meme. Heh h-heh,
i-it's just a meme, r-right guys?

>>385515318
>if only he didn't exist
What'd Iggy ever do to you?

>>385521450
Jesus christ, what the fuck is up with Toriyama's teeth?

>>385521386
i'm too lazy to complain again, so i shall just direct you to my previous post regarding that video here >>385512754

>>385521801
crooked from sucking lightning's vagina all day

What could have been

Posting Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8

>>385521786
"he" isn't Iggy, but he who shall not be named

>>385521247
sorry anon, i thought you meant the fight. i thought the character was explained as him being the oldest version of gilgamesh, hence him acting slightly differently. i'm referring to the t-0 one btw

>>385511401
Did they not drop the cool borderline Yakuza/Mafia look for the main side?

>>385521968
>implying you wouldn't want to do this

It's kind of sad to see how the mighty have fallen. Square used to make a mainline Final Fantasy games every 1½ - 2 years beloved by millions. You might call the writing of the Final Fantasy stories mediocre compared to the best written stories, but you can't deny the impact the games have had on many people over the years. Ask the final fantasy fans which game has affected them the most and you will answers that range from 4 all the way to 12. Aside from the latter, these games were all made like 2 years after each other for almost two decades.

It took Square-Enix like ten years from concept to release of one game and it's an unfinished mess.

>>385510785

It's a sad day for mainline Final Fantasy when the best FF of 2016 was World of Final Fantasy.

>>385522028
>that opening
>sleepy noctis
fucking kino man i swear.

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>>385519870
>Cor downgraded from party member to literally who, who leaved party for no reason, in spite of him moaning about his loyalty for Regis
>Stella ha s a phone
>Gentiana has a combat outfit and probably more prominent role than walking photobombing
>Ravus with magical powers and relevance to game's story
>Verstael appears in Altissia

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>>385522180
At least we got 3 XIII games, right?

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While we lament about things that were better in the past, can somone explain me why the fuck would anyone picked the final cheap-looking HUD for weapons over the one in pick-related

>>385522370
How many games did Motomu Toriyama ruin?

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What was with the guys in the judge/garlean-looking armor on the cover? I don't remember them ever showing up in the game. Or maybe they did show up for 5 minutes and I just forgot about them like every side character

>>385522567
They were in literally one scene during the final fight with Ardyn. It's the old kings/queens of Lucis whose Royal Arms you collect.

>>385522567
They're the past Kings of Lucis
they appear in Kingsglaive and briefly in the ending cutscenes of the game

>>385522567
The 13 kings.

They showed up for 2 minutes during the ending, and they were kind of in Kingsglaive, the statues fighting the Diamond Weapons

>>385522028
It's weird how much better the CG looks compared to the new CG scenes in XV. Now everything looks way too soft and almost like the hair is made of silk. I think they're made by the Kingsglaive team though which would explain a lot. Eve the XIV CG looks better.
The small details on Noctis face, the small eye movements etc. KH does the same stuff. It's subtle but helps a lot.

>>385522028
>NOHKTIS ORGY

>>385522484
I think the best one was still the one from the 2013 trailer/ Duscae, it was simple and only took up a small part of the screen. Now it's just a mix of different things.

>>385522697
Kingsglaive, the Omen trailer, and some of the XV CG cutscenes were done by Image Engine and Digic Pictures.

XIV CG is done by Visual Works, SE's internal CG studio. They pretty much do every FMV work for SE, from Kingdom Hearts to Deus Ex. Usually anyways

>>385522113
I prefer Vanille myself

>>385522697
>The small details on Noctis face, the small eye movements etc.
those twitches, while he's in the backset of the car, of the faces his father and emperor guy (can't even remember his bloody name) make during the standoff, are BEAUTIFUL!

>>385522484
ffxv is marred by stupid decisions anon

>>385522491
>all 3 parts of versus 13
>tabata's unannounced game that he had to cancel to work on FFXV https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjE7pmU5a7VAhUCCcAKHeo1Cs8QFggoMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usgamer.net%2Farticles%2Fhajime-tabata-talks-about-the-transformation-of-versus-xiii-to-final-fantasy-xv&usg=AFQjCNFVB0qiZ1B2lbzfpPDbYeFYT1js2A ctlf+f "fishes" for cancelled game
>potentially killed XVI

so 4 and a half

I can't believe he's not here. Is he dead or something?

>>385522484
The UI in the final game is so fucking distracting. I could've sworn that every single UI element in the game, from the hud, menu, damage numbers, uses goddamn Century Gothic.

>>385522912
2013 trailer uses the command menu, and Duscae had the pseudo command deck, so it kinda made sense that it would be revamped.

Dunno why they decide to revamp the UI visual styling alongside the layout though.

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>>385523081
and on* the face of his father

and sorry for ugly link, anyways pic related is quote http://www.usgamer.net/articles/hajime-tabata-talks-about-the-transformation-of-versus-xiii-to-final-fantasy-xv

>>385523259
>I can't believe he's not here. Is he dead or something?
please dont jinx it anon. we made it to 200 posts without him though, that is quite impressive. this will forever go down as the best ffxv thread

>>385523325
I bet it was Final Fantasy Type-1

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>>385523429
>I bet it was Final Fantasy Type-1
DONT SAY THAT!!! although it probably was since there was the teaser and early dev footage

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>>385522028
It's crazy how much stuff actually happens in the Insomnia parts of the trailer which is basicly all the intro to the game. Judging by the concept art stuff you even went to the party with your friends, maybe even had a prolouge with them before that. A good prolouge with your friends and your father, the party, the escape from Insomnia including the Aranea fight etc. would've been an amazing opening and would've actually made me care about Regis and the city itself.
And there're so many fucking assets. The 2013 trailer was basicly just the plaza with clever camera tricks, but the 2011 trailer had multiple parts of the town, the skyscrapers, the interiors of your home etc.

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>>385522028
>comments closed

>>385523817
like 95% if all SE videos are like that. and not just SE, most JP dev youtube channels in general. not sure why though

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>>385521014
Dark Souls 3 has sold 5m+ units. On PC alone it has sold 2 million and PC is usually no more than 30% of overall sales. Funny, nobody could've predicted when Demon's Souls released that its sequel would end up selling almost as much as a mainline FF game.

>>385523817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg
The comment section is basicly just a /v/ XV thread, but with less insults

>>385523596
I think they wanted to replicate the success of the FF7 compilation really badly.
The budget spent on a Feature length CGI film with Hollywood voice actors could have been spent developing the Insomnia portion of the game.

>>385524217
The film was a major failure in so many ways. Nobody even watched it.

>>385523596
>the interiors of your home etc.

Oh yeah, XV also had another prologue cut. There was this sequence of Noctis waking up in his apartment, going around town, meeting people(Ignis, his dad, Gladio's dad, Iris, etc), and packing up for the trip for a day before the day of his departure. They turned it to a short story, and put it in a booklet in the artbook or a special edition or something.

I think the "noct bored in a car" footage we've seen so much is supposed to be part of that.

>>385510785
everything is missing
we got tabatas shit stain

Deep inside i hope that someday they'll let Nomura make FF Versus XV. But hell who am I kidding, we haven't even heard anything about FFVII: Episode I yet.

>>385524872
FF7R cutscenes are further along than KH3's and that's releasing next year, it's pretty significant considering KH3 had like 2 years head start

>>385525154
If they actually keep to their schedule then it should release in 2019 and the Mahvel game in 2020

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Why did video games have to die, /v/?

>>385524872
Nomura is incapable of finishing games now

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>>385525504
I'm literally in tears now.
Why did you have to make this image anon?

>>385525958
Hasn't he made like 5 in the past decade? Didn't he just release 2 this year and kh3 is coming out next year?

>>385526390
I don't know what games you're talking about but FF15 is not his game, it's Tabata's. Did he release a little mobile shit?

>>385526018
Sorry, I felt I had to share my heart with /v/

>>385526514
But FF15 is sitll in development

>>385526514
>it's Tabata's
lol not anymore he's jumped ship

>>385526716
kek

>>385526762
He's not working on XV anymore?

>>385526843
Nope.

>>385526762
The game is out. DLC doesn't count as the same game

>>385526843
He's not director to any of the dlc

>>385526917
>>385526924
he's not even director on the updates

>>385526908
>>385526924
oh God I hope they didn't put him on another mainline FF game. If so, then FF is fucking done and finished for good.

>>385526995
He probably went back to type-1

52 unique posters

>>385526995
Evelyone must die at endo of gemu fol gemu to be good! You do not undelstand gemu genius Tabata!

>>385511268
XV-kun stop

>>385527060
I really hope so

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I refuse to buy FF15. I will only pirate it on PC. If it does not come to PC I doubt I will play it.

>>385527137
If it was xv-kun this thread would be at 530 posts, 55 IPS

>>385527218
seething

>>385527061
Yes, and?

"Discussions between people are bad!" - (You)

>>385526995
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it as long as it's clear that it's his project from the start.

Type-0 was flawed, but there was some legitimately great ideas there. Given a proper budget, team, and plan, I'm confident the guy and his team could cook up something great.

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>tfw you genuinely feel that FF13 was a better game and couldn't imagine that would be the case before 15 released

>>385527289
Just know you're a very vocal minority that hates this perfectly fine game

>>385527290
Glad I'm not alone

>>385527372
this is /v/

>>385527290
Type 0 had control and camera problems. Totally ruined by them. Felt like it was designed by someone who had never made a 3D game before

>>385527372
>minority
>perfectly fine game

>>385527372
If you actually read this thread you'd see that no one hates it. Please don't derail what has been the best FFXV thread in months

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>>385527012
I believe in Nomura-senpai

HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER

>>385527483


They're calling it worse than 13 which it clearly isn't. It's one of the best FFs in a while

>>385527012
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER

>>385527603
Metacritic, the combined "opinions" of 80+ game "journalists" also say it is worse than FF13

>>385527603
>a few anons say that 13 is better, which they're allowed to because OPINIONS
>everybody hates the game

Are you 12?

>>385527603
>one of the best FFs in a while
Not really saying much when the competition is 13 and a remake of the disastrous 14

>>385527786
didn't say everyone hates the game, just a vocal minority

>>385516167
so all is Nomura fault , got it

>>385527856
If you saw how DEEP and MEANINGFUL it could've been you would hate the game too.

>>385527954
How so?

>>385525504
>Expand AD

I don't get it.

>>385510785
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS GAME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDucrHWAFdk
Where is it Tabata?

>>385528056
>How so?
Nomura NEVER havet he game running , all of those were just pre rendered

>>385528587
What language is this?

>>385528587
Actually try researching what happened during development instead of listening to what someone said on the internet

>>385528510
He left it in a Hong Kong sewer after eating a dog kebab.

>>385528821
You expect too much of these people anon

>>385528510
>WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS GAME
It got better. Fight me. Versus would've been too serious and up its own ass.

>>385529004
>Fight me
Nah

>>385529004
No one believes your lies Tabata.

>thread got to 250 posts before xv-kun showed up
this must be a new record

>>385526995
He said in interviews that he wants to make his own fatasy based game using Luminous. So either he does Type-1 or he turns the Agnis tech demo into a game and adds another forced drama plot

>>385528821
>he doesn't know
same guy that confirmed what happen in the entire XV
I believe him more than the nomura "researchers" apologist.

>>385529351
Source?

>>385529415
You literally don't know what you are talking about and you can barely write in English
I implore you to stop posting

>>385529415
Post the leak. Let's set the record straight. It's obvious by now the guy who came to /v/ in July last year was legit.

>>385512347
No he doesn't. He's been recycling and reskinning FF7 Crisis since forever. Parasite eve 3rd, FF type-0, FFXV are the same shit.

>>385529657
*may
That same guy admitted that if it was made under nomura the game would've been good
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/338796462/#338808654

>>385529628
You are famous the XV kun? Off FUCK

Is it just me or does it feel like the game came out ages ago even though it's been less than a year

>>385529850
this is just blatant shitposting

>>385520594
Damn, this is fucking phoned in compared to XIV gilgamesh.

>>385529850
What the fuck are you even saying, you make no sense anymore. Are you japanese?

>>385529850
XV-kun is Australian so he's likely in asleep now

>>385529850
No, I'm not defending xv and I'm not calling everyone a cunt
You clearly don't know what you are talking about now and are just shitposting

>>385529839
Thanks for posting it. I remember even being in that thread asking him questions

>
The teams in America and London are worried as fuck about the game. Tabata thinks its going fine because he's stupid. The party looks like band members and wasn't changed because Tabata is stupid. Also they didn't want to deviate from Versus 13's most basic image on a surface level. They're making sales based on its hype, not 15's
This shit is hilarious.

>>385530021
He'd rather stay awake for 24 hours than miss a thread like this. So something must've happened

>>385529895
they are never gonna fixed it and the multiplayer mode looks lame as fuck.

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>>385529986
>Are you japanese?

>>385529839
>all those angry xv-kun replies
Everytime

Im still hoping for an Expansion Pack that adds back a ton of the cut content

Integrating the DLC into the main game would be nice also

>>385522180
>your company goes on the verge of bankruptcy because one man is retard.
>company merge with another one
>the retard become CEO.

In all honestly, they did this to themselv. I think they're much better now than in 2010, but I don't think they can recover.

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>>385530337
They'll probably add the stuff from the survey one after another, but it will take years. Things like the invasion will never be made though. They can't work on this shit forever.

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People put the blame on Luminous, but it's worth noting that "Luminous" has been under the stewardship of several technical directors. The original Luminous designed for FFXV was written by the staff Square hired from Sega, who'd made the stunningly competent (compared to their own efforts) Hedgehog Engine. The then-director of Luminous and the team working on it then were made to work on FF14 2.0 - most notably making the then-director of Luminous in charge of their server architecture. He left following the release of A Realm Reborn. Square then hired a bunch of people from Western studios to work on Luminous, particularly the former head of engine design as Ubisoft (who had worked on, among other things, Assassin's Creed 3) who became Luminous's technical director.
It's arguably because of this tumultuous process that FFXV's Luminous engine is the blazing garbage pile it is today, and why Square are happily jumping onto Unreal Engine 4 - which, mind you, they would've been happy to do years ago had Epic been less nationalistic, but that's a story for another day.

>>385530250
Yeah it's fucking hilarious. He's in the thread damage controlling every time something gets leaked with some PR speak mumbo jumbo.

The multiplayer won't be a sausagefest right? Please let me be able to make a waifu

>>385530517
>but that's a story for another day
Can you share this story today?

>>385530517
How do you know this anon?

>>385530517
>they would've been happy to do years ago
They did, they signed a deal with Epic in 2012
https://www.epicgames.com/news/square-enix-signs-long-term-unreal-engine-licensing-agreement

>>385527012
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER

>>385530517
UE4 gets way too much credit. The fighting games made on UE3 look much better and run much better than the UE4 fighting games, who are all bogged down with ridiculous amount of loading and uneven graphics.

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>>385515441
It looks like they stripped out all the lighting here, im guessing it was a bit too stressful for Xbone/PS4

This is pretty common for console development, if the lighting won't allow a 33ms budget, then they strip it out & redo it, but if the game is rushed, sometimes they don't have enough time & leave it looking like shit

The same happened to Dark Souls 2

>>385530706
All of that can be found through looking at the luminous engine wiki page and some easy google searches
He's wrong about the epic games and square thing, as they had a deal made years ago. SE even worked with it as far back as 2008 with the last remnant using unreal engine 3

>>385529004
>Versus would've been too serious and up its own ass
You know, if SE would dropped completely all the ties with Versus and just make plotless game about bros on roadtrip I wouldn't mind.
But this game is weird monster, when you have a lot of tragic and epic events happened offscreen, but characters barely react on it.

>>385531126
Damn XIV looks so much better than XV. The art design, textures and lightning are on point.

>>385530517
>(who had worked on, among other things, Assassin's Creed 3)
Well, technically and mechanically AC3 is still one of the best ACs, especially with all those animations and shit involving snow, tree-climbing and all that
Nigger

>>385531126
Is this BDO?

>>385531479
Yeah, they should have just cut all the grimdark/game of thrones bullshit, focused on a lighthearted final fantasy

& reused the Versus ideas for FF16 or something

The final game is just a bad mix

>>385531481
That's not XIV though, but still XIV uses its lighting better than XV even though the roots of both engines are luminous

>>385531479
I know and I agree. It could've been much better but it all was a bad situation.

>>385531481
That's not 14
14 could look like that if they dropped PS3 from the get go

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>>385517640
He added this later, seemed pretty annoyed in this one.

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>>385530689
The simple answer is that Epic, for the last console generation, had an antagonistic relationship with Japanese developers. Which was, mind you, not by design. They simply weren't interested in translating the Unreal documentation into Japanese. Documentation was in English, and support was provided only through English. They would outright refuse to speak to anyone that didn't speak good English - and insist that all their questions were answered in the documentation, which naturally was entirely in complicated English and thus hard for the average Japanese person to read, even if they were a programmer. So, this did Epic no favours with the major developers, and it also soured them on working with the Japanese.
It was only in 2009 that they started a Japan branch to handle this. The current wave of Japanese games using UE4 and, indeed, Square Enix's partnership with them in 2012 as >>385530741 mentioned came only after years of work on the part of their Japanese staff. And that was several years AFTER they made The Last Remnant, which was Square's attempt at dipping their feet into the waters of Unreal - and ultimately a game dogged by technical issues on console.

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Who else beat pitioss? The game was just mediocre but this had some fun parts.

>>385532713
I did and will never do it agian, the games jumping mechanics were just not meant for something like this and the worst part is that it's basicly the only thing you need the flying regalia for and the items you get aren't worth it either.
No optional summons is a fucking sin