>thirteen years old Is she the youngest alchemist in the

Yea

Also the sluttest. Yes even more than Sophie.

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>>385509759
What about Meruru? Am I the only that like Meruru the most out of all Atelier girl? I like her personality, not really tomboy. not sure what that is called

>>385512193
Stop posting and talking about my wife on a filthy board like /v/ please.

>>385512738
Totori is mine. FUCK you

>>385509759
I'd impregnate her

>>385513330
Her little body can't take you in, anon.

>>385513202
Uh Im not talking about blacked slags like sluttori

Which is better for a newbie? Sophie or Firis?

>>385509759
They keep getting younger.

>>385513568
Go away Astrid no one likes you.

>>385513524
Firis is definitely better but you may get confused on the whole story between Sophie, Placta, Meklet, and Atomina without playing Sophie first.

>>385509759
I wish. I'm tired of the Atelier games having old hags as their protagonists.

>>385513804
Thanks anon!

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>>385509759
Delicious Delicious Totori

>>385514064
You already have Chat mate.

>>385514164
Rorona boobies

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>>385514164
Stop posting this middle aged Rorona.

>>385512193
Meruru is smart and capable. Totori is clumsy and not very bright, and Rorona is just a ditz. Meruru best girl.

>>385514620
older Rorona is the best Rorona.

>>385509759
Imagine how hot it would be to manhandle her tiny body...

>>385514687
>wanting to fuck a old hag

>>385514797
You mean prime wife material. She's an alchemist, doesn't matter how old she is. I'm just not into lolis.

>>385514848
>liking old hags
You make me sick, please stop responding before I puke on you through the internet.

>>385515001
>liking prepubescent children
You make me sick, please stop responding before I puke on you through the internet.

>>385514164
Just got this scene.

And now I'm out of money to go to Arland.

>>385512193
Meruru was my favorite too
I was very disappointed Arland ended there, and we never saw older Meruru, she'd be GOAT

>>385509759
>5 Ateliers later
>Arland still the best of this bunch

Why can't other waifus compete?

>>385515136
Such is life in the alchemy biz. Though technically with the basic medicine they can make they should never be out of money.

>>385515181
Ayesha was very good, I would say better than Rorona for sure
I also liked Sophie but the game was shit

>>385515196
Books are so expensive. Alchemy books, at the very least.

No wonder there are only three people in the entire republic that practice it. It's like being a doctor, only worse.

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>>385514620
I hope whoever made the decision to lolifiy rorona was fired

>>385515303
He clearly wasn't, and lolified Escha too
I am bracing myself for lolified Sophie in the next game

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>>385515303
t. neofag.

Fuck now I'm getting that itch to play again.

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>>385515458
Why didnt you drink your own potion astrid you fucking bitch.

>>385515404
Doesn't the next game have loli protagonists? At least I hope it does.

Atelier Arland world is too perfect to live in.
>cute girl doing cute thing
>cute boy doing cute thing
>the king is a good people
>the king's helper/minister/butler is also a good people
>the knight actually doing their job helping people
>no stupid religion BS
>no evil person exist
I would choose Atelier Arland world over any jrpg other world to live in. Tell me one other jrpg world better than this.
Protip: you can't.

>>385515551
Because she's a pedophile.

I hope at least niche companies Japan never listen to the west and keep making what they like. You people are fucking boring.

>>385514797
>13
>old hag
kys yourself
ephebo>pedo any day nigger

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>>385515303
>>385515404

The worst is having turned Sterk into a pedo.

>>385515938
>kys
stop being a fag

>>385515584
Monster Girl Quest after they're all unified

god i want new atelier/manakhemia series with male protag

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>>385515404
Loli Sophie would be super cute, I hope they do it, and Plachta too.

>>385516013
Look man, he's been after Rorona for years, and she gave him nothing. Her turning into a loli was probabaly his only chance.

Will Dusk ever get a real ending?

>>385515584
Arland after Meruru takes over and topples the monarchy.

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>>385509759
>they keep doing the exact same fucking shit with every recent atelier game
>cute little girl protag, you doing the same shit barely anything changing in terms of narrative or gameplay

Fucking hell, would it kill them to have it feature an older woman, a boy or a man? We got Logy sure, but that's out of a fuckton of these mode little girl shits. Shit gets old and these little girls are NEVER interesting characters.

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>>385509759
Totori would make an ideal wife.

>>385515404
Escha was just a cameo though.

>>385515458
>Esty appears on Meruru

Oh boy she's already thirty on this game.

>>385515573
Firis' student?

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I kinda wanna play these, but they seem spread all over the place. Where does a man even start?

>>385516067
Haha, no, you submissive faggot.

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>Older woman
>Boy
>Man

>>385516103
Meh, the appeal of Atelier games is the cute girls.

Though it does attract otome players with its bishie. There was that one atelier otome game after all. They just skipped the alchemy altogether.

>>385516698
Play Rorona Plus. Don't play the original Rorona, it's shit.
If you don't have a PS3 or a Vita you're kinda screwed. The PS1 ones never got translated, and the PS2/PS4 ones aren't that good.

>>385516903
>and the PS2/PS4 ones aren't that good

Don't listen to this man.

>>385516903
>Rorona

You'll either get stressed with the time limit and wanting to get all the endings, or you just don't give a fuck and get a mediocre ending.

>>385516903
Original Rorona has a lot of flaws but it's fun in its own way. The game play and alchemy system in particular were a lot more complex than the easymode Rorona+.

>>385516903
Well shit. I was thinking of getting a bita some day, don't really want to put down the money for a console proper. How much would i be missing out?
I have an old ps2 laying around here somewhere, too.

>>385516698
PS2 games or Firis for a more traditional JRPG experience.

>>385517023
You don't have a PC?

>>385516984
It's better to have a game where you have to try hard to do well than to have one that's too easy, I think.

>>385509759
How do we stop pedos?

>>385516137
It's clearly going to be loli Plachta with new human body, and mommy Sophie raising her

These games are fucking cancer

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>>385517216
We turn them into lolis.

>>385517069
Of course i do, she's my baby. Just figured itd be comfier to play on my ps2? It's chipped, so i can pirate for it easily enough.

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>>385517232
Cute as well, that would be awesome.

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>Friend only plays edgy games like Demon's Souls, Dragons Dogma and Red Dead Redemption on his PS3
>Hasn't touched his PS3 in months
Buy 2 copies of Atelier Rorona Plus ~The Alchemist of Arland~ on release
>Cashier asks for ID even though it's rated Teen confused but hand it over anyway
>Hear her laugh as I leave the store
>Give one copy of the game to my friend
>Feel embarrassed so I play it off as a prank
>Talking to him a week later
>He still hasn't played the game
>Check his psn profile
>It's full of Rorona Plus achievements
>Go over the his place a month later
>He bought all the Atelier games even though he just finished Rorona Plus

>>385517023
Vita is just as good as console for Ateliers. The games look and run worse (obviously), but they're turn based so it's not like it's crippling or anything. They also get extra content and bug fixes for some games since they were developed after the PS3 versions, though Gust now do simultaneous releases for PS4 and Vita so that's stopped. Though that means you don't have to wait, so that's still good.

>>385516326

They know the only people who buy and play their games are pedos who would lose interest immediately if the game starred a "grandma."

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>>385517583
>Cashier asks for ID even though it's rated Teen confused but hand it over anyway
>Hear her laugh as I leave the store
What a fucking bitch, hope she gets fired

>>385511854
Wait what? Why would anyone suggest Sophie is slutty? Isn't Feris much worse with some of those outfits?

>>385517660
Alright, that sounds good.
So if i get a vita, what's the order to play in? Does it matter?

>>385516067
But that's when Paradox happens anon, and shit went really fucking south in that world.

>>385517784
Tell her to get some better taste.

>>385517686

Except Astrid lolifying her apprentice didn't go down so well, from what I recall, so that can't be the case.

>>385517784
Maybe she thought you bought a loli porn game when you bought Totori. A lot of people laugh at the thought of little girls getting dicked by big men.

>>385518024
The games come in individual series (Arland/Dusk/Mysterious), so you should start with the first game of whichever series you want. Arland's usually regarded as the best, though, so that means Rorona then Totori then Meruru. Rorona was ported last so it's the most advanced, which means the mechanics will actually go backwards a little when you progress to Totori, but it's still best to start with it. That way you get to appreciate all the character development and so on.

>>385517232
>loli Plachta with new human body

...Oh shit, I think you're gonna be right, anon.

>>385517583
>>385517784
>>385518448
My mother actually thought I was buying a game for girls when I bought Sophie.

>>385517903
It's a shitty meme.

>>385518772
Neat. Thanks mate.

>>385517660
>so it's not like it's crippling or anything

I will never want to play Firis on a Vita.

>>385518882

You were.

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I am mostly a lolicon who would love to defile Totori in mouth, vagina and ass, but I must admit that I have always found Rorona's majestic breasts irresistible.

>>385518983
In her head, female protagonists mean game is for girls and vice versa.

>>385518907
Sure, but what would even spark it?

I mean I struggle with seeing the characters as anything sexual in the first place let alone "slutty" and I just enjoy the psychopathic image of a young girl blowing the shit out of everything with massive explosives while laughing happily.

Especially Firis comes off as a mad-bomber type.

>>385519053
>I mean I struggle with seeing the characters as anything sexual in the first place

Oh shit, we got a pure anon here.

The cute girls from this series have peaked my interest but how is the gameplay actually?

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Can someone just post some nice flat kino lolis?

>>385519185
It's actually pretty stressful if you are a perfectionist.

>>385519118
Haha no, it's just that I've always liked this kind of thing more as just seeing kids enjoying themselves and appreciating it vicariously rather than "I want to stick my dick in it"

If I wanted that I'd just go on sadpanda and look up some as109 stuff.

>>385519239
Also very satisfying though
>That feel when you finally craft the perfect bomb
It was frustrating in Sophie because the inheritance/enhancing mechanics for weapons and armor, man am I glad they shitcanned that in Firis.

Male alchemists were a mistake, Logy was trash. Het doesn't belong in Atelier.

>>385519469
Loli alchemist>male alchemist>baba alchemist.

Even Japan got so fed up with GUST's terrible drop in quality with this series that they had to start porting them to PC to scrap sales from ironic Steam weebs.
Series is dead in terms of quality and charm.

>>385519560
>Implying Plachta is bad
I'll fite you.

>>385519469
This desu. Atelier needs forever to be about cute girls on an adventure.

I find it interesting how to get the Sterk ending in Rorona, you cannot be a competent alchemist. And in Totori, you know that Rorona is now stronger than Sterk so she doesn't need his protection anymore.

It's like a play on the usual otome MC trope who has to be protected. Endgame Atelier protags are probably the strongest people around with outright broken magical items.

>>385519628
guaranteed replies, senpai

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>>385509759
There's a child genius alchemist in Atelier Firis.
I think they handled all the licensed alchemists in Firis really well. I wanna see them all work together for a big fight like at flussheim.

>>385519704
I remember beating Sterk in that tournament thing purely by stacking a shit ton of buffs on my equip. Just smacking him with Rorona's stick without any bombs whatsoever.

>>385519747
Younger or older than thirteen?

>>385519747
My favorite gym leader

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Why do lolis make my cock so hard desu?

>>385519704
Reminds me of Firis carpet bombing on top of a flying carpet.

>>385519747
Is she playable? Can you see her panties?

>>385519827
Because you're a pedophile anon

>>385513397
Wrong. They gangrape 9 year olds and impregnate them in places like El Salvador. And abortion is haram so the little sluts get raped again in prison.

God I love Catholicism.

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>>385519785
Wiki says she's 10 in the game. But they don't act like she got her license recently like Dion so she probably got the license at 8 or something. Just guessing.

>>385520029
Amazing.

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>>385519827
Because you have good taste.

>>385519943
>Is she playable?
No.

>Can you see her panties?
Yes, unlock the camera with cheat engine.

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>>385518448
>A lot of people laugh at the thought of little girls getting dicked by big men.

>>385520029
Ren was top tier cutie
>>385520176
I think she started doing alchemy in a cooking pot too, instead of a cauldron

>>385520249
Nice. I need to do that someday.
>tfw no cloud support so I lost my savedata when my wife's 5-year-old daughter broke my gaming PC again
Feels bad man.

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My favorite scene in Atelier Totori

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>>385509759
>literally pedo games
Why is this allowed?

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>>385518882
Atelier are for little girls anon. We all just happen to be little girls here.

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>>385520652
Some Japanese artists still have a fixation with LauraB.
And I don't blame them.

>>385520652
>following
Also it's not pedo if they have tits.

>>385520652
guaranteed replies, neogaf

>>385520029
So is Firis the most genius alchemist in the series?
>Practices Alchemy for less than a year
>Already on par with/better than Sophie without any real instruction and no mentor like Plachta

>>385520792
old enough to bleed, old enough to breed

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>>385517903
Firis is cute, not slutty!

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>>385520652
>white girl is inspiration for characters who are supposed to be Japanese high schoolers

What did Kishida Mel mean by this?

>>385520942
Yeh hence not "pedo".

>>385521047
Nice denial.

>>385520996
I loved this game, but it really need to go a bit further with the yuri, so much teasing. I hope it gets a sequel.

>>385520956
Honestly Firis was so much better than Sophie and it's hard to explain exactly why. Possibly because it feels like Sophie is just screwing around with no real goal or purpose and hoping it helps Plachta somehow, while Firis is driven for the first half of the game and then builds on the things she experienced during those days.

Also Firis' enthusiasm is contagious.

>>385521129
can you disprove that without resorting to "muh feefees says ur wrong"? don't think so

>>385520652
>>385520996
Can't wait until that game comes out here. I'm under the impression that it's pretty similar to Persona

>>385521129
No I'm saying they're too old for my lolicon tastes because they're already in puberty. I like my anime girls prepubescent.

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>>385519053
>Especially Firis comes off as a mad-bomber type.

Watch what you say

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>barely any fanart

life is suffering

>>385521165
>Sophie is just screwing around with no real goal or purpose and hoping it helps Plachta somehow

Sophie is just her filling Plachta's pages, becoming an alchemist in the process.

Until the end where she saves the world.

>while Firis is driven for the first half of the game and then builds on the things she experienced during those days.

It's interesting how Firis started just using alchemy so she can go out her village. And looking at the endings, she can become a dedicated alchemist or take side jobs.

>>385521186
Stats on childbirth on that age having a significant number of health risks and problems, which is also what the "18 years" date is based on.

It's apparently technically safe once you're past the whole growth spurt stage which varies from person to person, but from a health and safety perspective 18 is a good hallmark.

So, any refutation aside from "my peepee says ur wrong"?

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>>385521304
I want to kiss Firis huge odeko

>>385521304
>I'd die if I were killed

The new meme.

>>385521337
Well, I don't find her interesting at all.
Girl with glasses aren't my type either.

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Coru-chan when?

>>385521435
>Girl with glasses aren't my type either.
Literal HOMO.

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>>385519469
As long as they're not self insert male protagonists. Gruff older male alchemists are fine.

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>>385521380
I want to kiss Firis everything.

>>385521475
I heard she's not in Firis, and that's how my interest in the current trilogy dissipated without a trace.

>>385521435
>he doesnt enjoy when she walks and her breasts bounce

dont talk to me ever again

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>>385515842
Don't worry anon most people will never admit that they're not normalfags. But they secretly play Gust games. And as long as there is a market there WILL be product. Ask your neighborhood drug dealer.

The loli must flow.

>>385509759
How can she be 13 when she is so hot?

>>385521475
What's the deal with the Cory doll you get in Firis anyway? Did Sophie seriously distill her alchemy into milk-powered-doll-form? Did she alchemically shrink and turn Cory into a doll? Did Cory use her alchemy too much and this was the result? Is it just some method of long-distance alchemy?

>>385521475
good lord all that milk went to her thighs

>>385521371
the only health risks are for mother, and that's only if her midriff isn't wide enough, other than that no problems
the 18 y.o. cutoff is extremely arbitrary, it isn't even that popular in non-retarded countries that generally go for 15-16 which is closer to ideal fo 13-14, of which age the girls are pretty much finished with puberty and if they had problems with pregnancy extra years of waiting won't help them anyhow, as potential problems should have been fixed by that point

>>385521636
Girls start being hot when they hit the double digits. That shouldn't come off as a surprise.

>>385521598
She is, depending how you interpret the presence of the Cornelia doll.

>>385521645
She basically made a machine that replicated Cory's job.

Coming from someone who could create a portable Atelier, it isn't so strange.

>>385520652
>Candydoll is dead
>nothing comes even close to replace it
Maybe someday in the future.

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this part was legitimately depressing

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>>385521792
>tfw pedophilia will become legal in your lifetime

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>>385521598
And let's not forget getting rid of the best character in Atelier Sophie. Seriously, Gust is fucking retarded.

>>385521839
...Fuck you anon, you spoil me. I haven't finished Totori yet.

Is this thread okay?

It seems there are people with untoward intantions toward low aged girls.

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Atelier Firis is a good game and Il-chan is a good girl.

>>385521883
Top girls aren't children, they're teenagers.

>>385521686
No, hormonal imbalances from puberty affect the child as well
>Other than that there's no problems
>Source; my ass
Nice
>The 18 y.o. cutoff is extremely arbitrary
No, it's the earliest median safe age for girls to get pregnant, as I said depending on the individual it can vary but there's no reason not to be safe other than "b-but muh dick"
>Most none retarded countries go for 15-16
I didn't realize second world countries were "none retarded countries" despite them being behind in development literally being their defining characteristic.
>Girls are pretty much finished with puberty at 13-14
What the fuck are you smoking? Where the hell are you getting this data? Many teenagers don't even begin puberty at that age you absolute imbecile.

Good lord your bullshit is absurd, do some actual research rather than just citing hopeless wishful thinking.

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>>385521337
She's the most boring character in Sophie. She's supposed to be the childhood friend character but she doesn't feel like one. She just nags Sophie.

>>385521890
Firis is clearly modeled after Tess though?
>Overly enthusiastic about the use of alchemist devices of mass destruction
best trait

>>385519462
what are those 2 boys doing?

>>385522020
What is that fashion style called?

>>385519469
Ateliers are all het except Totori.

>>385522005
>13-14 y.o didn't even begin puberty
>do some actual research
okay pal

>>385521839
>Looking for cute pics of totori using Google image search
>This pops up
Yeah that was a bummer.

>>385522020
I remember Fatty being a bro.

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>>385518448
Hot

>>385522020
>Winning every battle with her just to see how she adjust her glasses.

>>385522020
Yea a lot of the characters in Sophie just fall flat, I can't even remember the name of that knight fellow.

Harrol was pretty neat, Cory was good, Fritz was fine and Oscar was a bit janky at times but not bad.

Leon, Monkia and whoever that knight was where just dull and off-key though, despite being the more useful characters in combat.

>>385522165
Cite the full sentence you dishonest fuck.
>Get BTFO
>Stoop to this
And this is why everyone will always hate pedos, literally worse than furfags.

>>385522546
at this point it's pretty obvious you're either a retarded murricunt or just trolling so I won't bother with you

>>385522203
they ruined the fatty in Firis
Blandest piece of shit storyline, and barely any interaction with Sophie/Plachta except "lmao u got thin xDDD"

>>385522609
>W-well now I-I k-know you're just a poo-poo-head so I win!!
Why?

Why even post this garbage? Why not just leave with your shredded dignity in tow? Why just throw the tattered remains out with the garbage and act this way? You're anonymous, you could bow out and stop talking at any fucking point, and yet you somehow figured "Yea, this'll show him!!"

Seriously dude get some fucking help, that was beyond pathetic, even considering where we are.

>>385522710
That was a wasted opportunity for sure, but he wasn't too bad in general.

I fucked up by getting him only after finishing the first half so it felt even more awkward to have them both in the same room and never interacting, and it wasn't until right near the end of his events that he finally interacts with Sophie at all.

>>385509759
sweet sweet DFC

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Kindly inform a newfag how to best get into the Atelier series. I've wanted to for a long time but I don't know what's translated, what's on a platform I can play, and what's shit or not.

>>385521406
Is it an ironical or underaged statement?
I can't tell anymore.

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>>385509759
Why this game is not on Steam but the some other Atelier games are?

>>385523040
ps3 has best atelier games, start with Rorona+ and go in order of release

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>>385509759
Literally built for sex.

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>>385520791

>mfw most of nu-/v/ don't even know who that is

>>385523040
Might as well start with Firis, I started with Sophie and hated it, decided to still give Firis a try and it was so much better that I could actually go back and finish Sophie.

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>>385509759
Don't care about her age, all that matters is that she's the sexiest.

>>385513524
Neither, they're both garbage.

>>385523239
I'm content with the fact that there are still many lolicons lingering on /v/. We are one of the few remaining demographies that don't reek of normalfaggotry like the rest of the board.

>>385523179
>>385523241
Judging from what I've been reading around here, Firis seems like a really good game, yeah. I suppose I'll see what's more easier to get on PS4, Rorona or Firis, and go from there. Thanks.

>>385518882
>My mother actually thought I was buying a game for girls

You weren't?

>>385515584
>>no evil person exist
You never finished Totori, did you?

How is Sophie? It's gonna be my first Atelier game. Is it Neptunia levels of memes, fanservice and meta narrative or is it actually interesting game?

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>>385512193
Meruru is what they usually call the "genki" girl.

>>385522374
Harol had the best chemistry with Sophie.
It's like he's the NEET and she's the girl next door that keeps coming over to wake him up every morning.
https://youtu.be/44_WWh5dp_E?t=15m54s

>>385523591
It's actually absolutely nothing like that, in the sense that it's the blandest game you'll probably ever play. Play the Arland games if you want a taste of why they used to be good.

>>385523591
Don't do Sophie first. It's not terrible but you'll have a much better time playing Firis first and then doing Sophie as a kind of prequel.

>>385523591
It's very slice of life compared to other atelier games, no memes whatsoever, most of fanservice is limited to a lewd waitress and a lewd cloth designer

>>385517232
>with new human body
Her body may as well be human anyway, given the total lack of doll joints. It's extra retarded when you get the CG of Fritz in his workshop and all the dolls do have joints, but for no given reason Plachta's body has no signs of being crafted by a dollmaker and is indistinguishable from the rest of the humans. This sort of lazy design oversight would never have flown with Mel or Hidari.

>>385523453
No, its a game designed to have exactly the type of "girly" appeal that 30-year-old hebephile weebs love, its not for girls at all.

>>385511854
How do you know these girls are sluts if they don't even have sex with anyone?

>>385517583
How many years has this been getting posted for?

>>385523432

lolicon and candydoll are what introduced me to 4chan all those years ago

4chan has changed much since then. /tv/ used to be good, daily cunny threads

>>385523698
I can't afford Firis. 35 is the max I can give for a video game atm

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>>385515584
The Arland Minister is actually scheming and plotting behind Gio to assasinate or stage a coup against him and take power. Gio pre-empted that by turning Arland to a republic.

>>385523432
Man it sounds ridiculous now but 4Chan used to be really dark. The internet is too clean. I am against 3DPD CP but it does keep the normalfags out.

>>385523768
>Sophie makes a tent that defies the laws of space and time
>But a doll body without doll joints is madness!

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>>385523768
Her metal parts are concealed by clothes
She also needs maintenance, a proper human-like body wouldn't

>>385523591
It's cute.

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>>385523241
I have to agree with this. Normally I'd recommend going through them in order, but I couldn't bring myself to finish sophie. The new combat rubbed me in the wrong way and didn't keep me engaged. But Firis was a pretty fun adventure.

How are Logy and Escha in Firis?

>>385519185
The gameplay varies a lot. Each subseries reinvents the wheel and each game in each subseries has its own changes, so the quality isn't all that consistent. Rorona+ has solid combat and the most complex item creation of the series, so it's great all around. Ayesha has weaker alchemy but a more interesting world map. E&L has improved combat but shit everything else. Sophie sucks shit all around. The Iris games are pretty simplistic in both combat and alchemy and aren't very interesting, while MK's alchemy is still dull but it has great combat to make up for it.
Basically what game has the best gameplay will depend on where your priorities lie.
Want combat = Mana Khemia
Want alchemy = Rorona+ / Meruru
Want exploration = Ayesha / Totori
Want the best mix = Rorona+ / Ayesha

>>385519469
But everyone likes Logy, newfag. Atelier was never a yuri series, what was really a mistake was Sophie and the crowd it brought in.

>>385524084
>>385524095
>>385523730
>>385523698
>>385523695

Oh well, since I don't have the money atm I'll pirate it and buy it when it's on sale. I can't afford to give more than 35 atm, and trails of cold steel comes out in a few days.

>>385524218
Nonfactors
Logy helps you with some smithing stuff since he's a blacksmith now, and Escha has some scenes where she screws around because she's now a loli.

>>385524284
No-deadlines was a mistake

>>385524095
> Have a clear, and timed objective
> Accomplish it
> Graduate with honors
> Now lost in a vast world with no idea about what to do
> Graduation didn't change anything in your life

That hit a bit close to home

>>385524370
What's with this series and making the girls lolis?

>>385524401
>Not Sophie fondling Plachta's doll body during """maintenance""""
Shit taste.

>>385521839
And then the true end happened.

I hated it at first, but it's grown on me.

>>385524236
Escha+Logy is also pretty good in the alchemy and mix categories. Otherwise, good list.

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>>385523040
Ignore anyone recommending Sophie or Firis.

>>385524370
Escha literally learns how to synthesis at her age and they also promise to be together forever once Escha grows up

>>385523140
Because KT are incompetent.

>>385524471
By contrast Sophie is now older and (slightly) more responsible though, and you have your sister along who is a young adult as well.

>>385524553
what if I only have a PS4 though?

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>The Arland Atelier Trilogy Plus for $79.99 on PS store

Should I go for it, lads?

>>385523910
Sophie didn't make her body though, Fritz did.

>>385523964
But Fritz is supposed to be a doll maker, not a mechanic. The problem is in the inconsistency of his role and his established designs and the product that Plachta is.

>>385519469
> He doesn't like Logix "The Hindenburg was a passion project" Ficsario
> He doesn't like Keithgriff "Uncle Swag" Hazeldyne

Why don't you go back to Neptunia?

>>385523591
There are no memes in Atelier.

Except barrel

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>>385524609
>slightly
She's doing her best and also keeps beating herself over it, don't be too harsh on her

>>385524643
Do it.

>>385524236
>Want exploration = Totori

I want to explore so bad but that time limit...

>>385524636
Then try to get other means to play the Ateliers, because Sophie and Firis are, indeed shit. I mean, it's not even agressively shit. It's just bland and uninteresting, compared to the others. Only Shallie was worse. And Shallie + may have helped some of the issues.

>>385524594
What a shame

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Why are the girls in this game dressed so lewdly?

>>385524696
>Except barrel
https://youtu.be/ujxppwC6EAw?t=24s

>>385524667
Fritz only made the initial doll parts, you remake them, possibly a bunch of times, through doll-making alchemy.

>>385524536
>Escha+Logy is also pretty good in the alchemy and mix categories.
Eh, that's up for debate. I didn't like E&L's alchemy because of the way skills worked in it and how they were generally overpowered; you either fucked up and barely hit a single element tier, or you blew them away and maxed out every element tier with room to spare. Every item creation is doing the same thing with the skills, which made it much more dull than Rorona's careful planning. Plus there's no punishment for making mistakes in E&L and you can go back and start over from any point too.

>>385524823
You're an idiot if you think the time limits don't let you explore. You're an idiot if you think the time limits are restrictive in general; their purpose is to give the game steady pacing and a regular flow of progression, something that Shallie and Sophie both totally lacked.

>>385523627
What is a genuine girl? Is that like tomboy?

>>385524828
>because Sophie and Firis are, indeed shit

Don't listen to this man.

>>385524907
>regular flow of progression

?

>>385523509
More like you never finished it. The final boss is a demon not human

>>385524853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ff8ULM6OEw

>>385524719
It's that self-deprecating attitude that I consider immature, anon.

She's a great character though, and much better than she is for most of her own game.

>>385524636
Then you're better off emulating Iris and Mana Khemia instead, because even Iris is better than Sophie and Firis. I completely honestly consider Sophie to be one of the worst games in the franchise, maybe only outdone by Annie, and it's a terrible point of introduction to the series because of the terrible combat, slow as fuck pacing, shallow characterisation, and weak story. Obviously the PS3/Vita games are the best option but Iris and MK are still better choices than Sophie.

>>385524907
>Shallie
Still mad about how they shafted Ayesha and "wow its fucking nothing" ending to the trilogy

>>385523874
No. He just hate alchemist and want their land. Where did your coup story come from?

>>385525013
He can't play a normal JRPG anymore where you can do sidequests while the world is literally in the brink of destruction.

Should I just fail the alchemy test in Firis to get NG+ costume effects right away?

I remember preordering escha&logy on gamestop and it was the same day with some sport game or wwe game
>tell cashier i have to pickup preorder
>girl cashier asks if it was wwe or the sport game in a cheerful manner
>i said no its called atelier
>oh i see
>awkward silence as i pay
>get the fuck out if the store as soon as possible

>>385525150
>buying games from the store

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>>385524719

But Plachta is already hard on her.

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>>385524371
removing deadlines on games that has gameplay that revolves deadlines is usually the death of the franchise.

Even Miura didn't take Berserk on a hiatus to play Idolmaster PS4. that's how shit Idolmaster has become after time limits removal

>>385509759
Would mating press

>>385525150
You should've bought a sports game as well to show her you have an interest in a wide variety of games.

>>385525150
>I said no its called atelier
>talking to people instead of using a notebook for communication

your own fault

I want deadlinefags to leave.

>>385524925
genki girl means energetic girl, full of energy and rushes straight ahead on things.

>>385525320
>in high school
>everyone plays sport games on the PS2
>I'm the only one that plays weeb JRPGs
>can't join them at all

>>385525075
Rorona's event with Gio. Gio knows that the minister is ordering a lot of bombs. he confronted the Minister and told him that there is no need for a coup or anything cause he is going to turn Arland to a republic anyway.

>>385525248
Plachta's inappropriate slutty outfit is hard on me

>>385525507
>Inappropriate
How else is a granny like her going to find someone?

>>385524925
silly phonephoster

>>385525264
The death of idolmaster was the discovery that mobile shit sells like crazy without any effort.

>>385525013
Compare Rorona to Sophie.
In Rorona
>Assignment every three months
>Every assignment gives you a main goal to focus on and smaller goals to work towards during that time
>Every assignment gives you new areas to visit, new events to see, and sometimes new characters to recruit
>Because events are spread out between assignments you're also getting a reasonable ratio of event time to gameplay time
The time limits pace the game, they make the flow of everything constant.

In Sophie
>Story is only progressed by certain recipe ideas
>The story-lock recipe ideas often have the bland requirement to earn x points by killing monsters / performing alchemy
>Your only other thing to do is fill up the rest of your recipe ideas, which can be done at any time
>Story recipes only sometimes unlock new locations and often only one at a time
>Since there's no time frame to adhere to you get events dumped onto you in massive quantities at a time, and then go long stretches of gameplay with no events at all
>Events are easily missed due to arbitrary story recipe cutoffs
The lack of time limits left the game with no structure and horrible inconsistent pacing.

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>There are pc only plebs in this thread thinking mystery games are good

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>>385525507
Stop sexualizing books, it makes Sophie sad.

>>385525575
Sophie already found her

>>385525264
I always thought that people hate time limit missions/segments. And, at the same time, being the story the motivation to keep playing and not a timer.

There's nothing wrong with either Sophie or Firis, they are good games, unless you are playing the terrible PC ports.

>>385525643
I don't like Sophie's unclear requirements of moving things either. But I prefer Firis' lax time limit over Rorona's tight one

>>385525647
I keep seeing people complain about Firis but never see anyone give reasons why. I can understand hating Sophie but Firis was great.

>>385525692
And that's why Rorona had barely any story whatsoever.

>>385525643
Also don't forget that the lack of time limitation means that instead of finding optimized ways to make alchemical tools and amazing weapons, helping you tackle the fiercest challenges on time, you can just grind it out, since there's no time limit.

>>385525706
>not playing in comfy 60 FPS

>>385525759
Rorona's time limit isn't even tight, and it's still the tightest of all the games. If I can clear every assignment and every task during each period on my first try without consulting a guide, there's no reason you can't too. Granted, getting the true end is a lot harder, but that's how it should be, it's the true end after all.

>>385525706
Sophie port is amazing though
Firis is horrible and barely runs on PC in the forests

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>>385525706
Nice wrong opinion you have there, series newcomer.

>>385525647
>he still mad

>>385525826
>finding optimized ways to make alchemical tools and amazing weapons

Yeah, I don't like that. I just want to synthesize freely whatever the fuck I want. I I loved doing that back in Mana Khemia to the point of spending 140 hours on it.

>>385525692
They hate timed missions in games not designed around it because they're usually obnoxious.
In a game like Dead Rising the game becomes shit without the time limit. Doubly so for games like Atelier where the time limit is more like an action limit that requires you to plan your actions rather than a literal timer.

>>385524284
>everyone like s Logy
>the worse selling Atelier of all
>Gust back-track and introduce 2 girl as duo alchemist

>>385525486
Hmm, I don't remember this at all. Is this event on the first game or third game?

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>>385525875
Remind me again, how do you get true ending? It has been a decade?

>>385525826
>optimized ways

I skipped the endgame maps on Rorona because my equipment isn't good enough to tackle them and I got no more time to make them. Shame. I want to beat that dragon.

And I just go to Totori instead of replaying the game on NG+. I still have five more games to play through after all.

>>385525980
I said Logy, not E&L. People like the character, not the game, and that's for good reason, since Logy was the only decently written character in it.
You're wrong by the way, because E&L sold better than Shallie and Firis.

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The only good thing about firis is her enormous cow tits

>>385526072
Do a lot of quests and try to get all the stars on Sterk's assignments.

Both are pretty time consuming if you're in your first playthrough, especially if you're going for Cordelia's ending.

I finished Arland trilogy on PS3 with all the dlc some times ago before I got a vita. Is the plus version worth replaying? What is new in there beside useless costumes?

>>385525919
>Firis is horrible and barely runs on PC in the forests

Works on my i7 + 750Ti

>>385525930
At least I have my own opinion instead of screenshoting someone's else. I do believe previous titles are better, but if I go by this logic I would never play any Atelier game after Mana Khemia.

>>385526179
>new atelier game comes out
>Firis is a grown paimonster nee-san
My dick is ready

>>385526252
>works on my machine ;^)

>>385521371
18 as age of consent is entirely about mental maturity you mouthbreather. Outside redneck america in the actual civilized world the age of consent is usually around 15-16 which happens to be about the same time that pregnancy becomes as safe as it will ever get.

>>385516903
>Where does a man start with atlier
>Fucking rorona

Don't listen to this fucking idiot. Start with Iris and work your way up through Mana Khemia and then rorona. You're going to get progressively less quality games and progressively more waifu bait bullshit. There's a very serious gameplay and narrative quality tradeoff with cute girls doing cute shit as you go father into the series, and it only changes this trend 2 times at the most in the middle past Rorona.

But if you're into said waifu bait bullshit and you're only in it for the cute girls, yeah, start at Rorona and work you way up, you can't go wrong. .

>>385526072
True ending is just 94+ assignment stars and 80+ popularity.
Astrid ending is that and getting the final event for every character's story.

>>385526346
>Wishful thinking
Nice meme son

France, Britain, Germany etc. all have age of consent at 18, try again you dumb fuck, this time without just leaking your hopes and dreams rather than the actual reality of things.

Iris 2 and 3 = Mana Khemia games = Firis > Totori > Sophie > Rorona

>>385526252
Doesn't work on i5+750ti
I guess the rendering thread is the bottleneck and needs a fast processor

>>385526452
I can't imagine trying to get Astrid's end. Getting Cordelia's ending is hard enough.

>>385525789
Firis was better than Sophie, but not by much. Here are some of my issues with it.
-Beggining is slow, locked a month in a cave, having to spend so much time and efforts to start gathering more than scraps of paper and pebbles.
-A single time limit with an unexplored map, without clear and timed sub-objectives mean you can either fuck around too long ineffectually, going in useless zones that are way too dangerous for you, or on the opposite end, you can try to rush things, and end up in the capital with 120 days to spare and nothing inteersting to do until the exam
> Also the time is spent in real time, and that's dumb
> The on-the-road nature of the trip means the comfy feeling of returning to your atelier and city of choice just doesn't feel the same
> After the exam, your only goal is to figure out "now what?" getting an answer means ending the game, rather unsatisfying

And I'm probably forgetting some stuff. I will say however that the large contiguous zones feel really nice to explore, that the fight while not on the level of some former games is already MUCH better, that the characters are about the same level of enjoyability, and that the exam in itself is pretty neat

Honestly, Firis would have been a much better game I feel if instead of a year's travel to the exam, you had to get each recommendation in three months intervals, culminating in a smaller exam with tests on the local region's specificities, alchemizing utilizing whatever new power the master taught you, and a battle with them to top it off.

>>385526489
Thank God I bought that. Originally bought it just so I can emulate Xenoblade.

>>385526479
Great taste, but wheres Eshu and Loggo?

Iris 3 still has the best het couple in the series.

>>385526281
>At least I have my own opinion instead of screenshoting someone's else.
That was my own post though, I just saved it as an image so I don't have to type out the same shit again every time.
> I do believe previous titles are better, but if I go by this logic I would never play any Atelier game after Mana Khemia.
How fucking stupid. Game A being better than Game B doesn't mean B isn't worth playing if it's still good, but Game C being shit is a good reason not to play it. I don't like other games as much as Rorona+ or Ayesha+ but they're still worth playing, but Sophie is just absolute garbage that isn't worth playing at all.

>>385526591
Haven't played it yet.

>>385526397
>Irisfag thinking it was the pinnacle of the series
I thought these guys only existed as jokes.

>there are people that likes time limit posting in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>385525956
> Waaah, what can I smash my head on the keyboard/pad for long enough and still win!

You disgust me.

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I honestly prefer Totori's English voice.

>>385526558
>Honestly, Firis would have been a much better game I feel if instead of a year's travel to the exam, you had to get each recommendation in three months intervals

Please no. I treated it like Skyrim and prioritized exploring the world before going back and doing the recommendations. I like it better that way.

>>385526759
but if we didn't have a time limit on posting, the threads would be shitposted too fast, anon :^)

>>385526558
>Honestly, Firis would have been a much better game I feel if instead of a year's travel to the exam, you had to get each recommendation in three months intervals, culminating in a smaller exam with tests on the local region's specificities, alchemizing utilizing whatever new power the master taught you, and a battle with them to top it off.
That actually sounds pretty good. Shame Gust can't make good games anymore under KT.

>>385526649
If you managed to suffer through Rorona you'll at least enjoy E+L. You should give it a shot sometime.

>>385526695
>Implying its not
Sorry about your taste anon. Heart goes out to you and the rest of the waifufaggots that GUST sold out to for turning a novel and interesting series into otakubait.

>>385526771
Same here. I liked Rorona's dub voice better too.

>>385514164
Damn, what is that fishing rod made of?

>>385526109
What I ill grant is that it'd be nice to have, after the main story, some free time for the superbosses and so on. A free post-game after getting your ending.

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Come to mommy, anon!

>>385526864
>Heart goes out to you and the rest of the waifufaggots that GUST sold out to for turning a novel and interesting series into otakubait.
I wonder what it's like to think that a franchise only existed from the point that it started being released in the states.

>>385526763
Okay, smart guy.

This now reminds me of Dark Souls fags shitting on anyone who thinks the game is hard.

>>385526695
People like him likes to pretend and you can clearly see the tears in the post. Tears coming from the lack of waifu love.

>>385526864
Is this bait? You are such a bellend.

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>>385526771
>>385526903

>>385526246
There's a whole fourth year. Plus the game system is changed to Meruru's, to make it more enjoyable, and less about that jank elemental balance thing. Also I don't remember, was Astrid playable in the original? Because she is now.

>>385526848
>culminating in a smaller exam with tests on the local region's specificities, alchemizing utilizing whatever new power the master taught you, and a battle with them to top it off.

I can agree with this though. Just not the time limit.

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Thank God the third mystery series girls wont have chest tumors like sophie and firis

>>385526912
alchemy

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>>385524553
Ah so you are motherfucker.

I have every atelier on ps3 including imported japanese copies and almost all of them on vita and the mysterious games on pc. I would say Firis is at least as good as the arland and dusk games. Give it a chance.

Who chose Meklet and Atomina's ending on Firis just to see her turn into a mad alchemist?

>>385527090
I'm not thanking God for anything so long as Mysterious continues.

>>385527090
loli alchemy is the best alchemy