ITT: that game which, if someone doesn't like it, causes

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'Nuff said.

>>385483076
Near a tomato is mediocrity defined. /v/ only pretends it's some amazing game because 2B is cute.

>>385483152
I immediately lose respect for all of their opinions about games for people who play this.

>>385483076
game was mediocre. the whole time i just felt like playing bayo or mgr instead

>>385483306
I liked it because it was fun and different.

>>385483306

I liked it for how long I played it.

>>385483306
I hate waifufags and I really wish they'd not made her such obvious weeb-bait. But the game is an 11/10 masterpiece. It's the only video game I've truly enjoyed in a long time.

>>385483326
bronze trashmaster detected

>>385483326
This.

>>385483545
this

>>385483076
Persona 5.

Metal gear solid 4.

>>385483420
>same shit taro pulls every single fucking time
>different

>>385484713
About as different as you can get for a AAA in an over-saturated market.

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>>385483076

>>385483076
More like games that are becoming impossible to discuss on /v/

Probably pokemon red/blue
any smash bros

>>385483076
Only bought it because of 2b, when i found out that you only play as 2b less than 1/3rd of the game, i say fuck it and watch the rest of the ending on youtube

it was shit, and i don't even finish ending a yet

>>385485678
Pretty pathetic desu

I like Automata. It's too bad it's massively overhyped by new Taro fans and in effect becoming more despised by everyone else. I want my niche Cavia games back please.

>>385483076

Is there a way to get the PC version to not crash every 15-30 minutes?

>>385486306

It's never crashed once in my 50 hour playthrough. Are you using the FAR mod?

>>385483076
I made a critical review of heroes: might and magic 5, and get weekly flames for it.

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>>385483076
>the graphics are old/outdated
>looks kinda gay
>I only play games on Xbox/XBONE/PS3/PS4

I immediately know we are not going to get along, not when it comes to games anyways.

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One guy I met hated it because it wasn't set in real life and was "full of itself" for having a story past a generic tom clancy plot.

>>385486430
>Are you using the FAR mod?

No, does that prevent crashes?

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>>385483420
How tf is different?

Nier Automata is generic as fuck most of the time

>>385486178
this

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laaaater

>>385484713
That is, 4 games over one and a half decades?

Still pretty different.

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>>385486639
I'm pretty sure this is the one series I'd care if a friend didn't like. Even my completely normalfag college roommates loved that shit back in the day, said that was the coolest final boss fight they ever saw.

>>385486178
>It's too bad it's massively overhyped by new Taro fans and in effect becoming more despised by everyone else.

If someone's enjoyment of a game can be affected by fans "overpraising" a praise-worthy game, that someone is a complete retard and his opinion is worth less than dog vomit.

>>385486306
Yes, buy the original game.

Only the pirated copies were experiencing crashes this frequent.

Anyway, as other anon pointed out, install FAR, it improves the experience massively for both.

>>385487010
No it's not.
Guy is worse than Uchi when it comes to reusing shit.

>>385487227
>that someone is a complete retard and his opinion is worth less than dog vomit.
Automata fans then?

>>385483076

I love it, but I still think k Nier is better.

>>385487323
Nigga Taro releases new games every other blue moon.

Something reused 4 times over 15 years still feel fresh, and Nier and Nier Automata are quite different from the things Drakengard were doing. And even Nier and Nier automata are quite different in their themes and how they are approached. Nier original didn't have nearly as much of a philosophical discussion as Automata.

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>>385483076

Don't wanna, don't wanna talk about it
I say why not?
Don't wanna think about it
I say there's got to be some good reason for your little black box

if you think nier automata is great you're basically an uncultured brainlet
it has an effective delivery but absolutely nothing to say

Anyone who doesn't like Mario Kart 64 has no taste or is too young for me to be talking to.

this

>>385487607

well I'll take the opinion of someone who says "brainlet" with as much seriousness as humanly possible. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to or can you direct me to your favorite street corner for insane ranting so I can partake in your infinite wisdom?

>>385487607
>it has an effective delivery but absolutely nothing to say

Except, you know, the whole well-done message about existential nihilism being bullshit despite being a major philosophical branch for quite some time.

For the standards of the video-game industry, Automata stands absurdly tall, and surpasses a good chunk of cinema in artistic and philosophical value

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This game is anti-autism. You're guaranteed on the spectrum if you dislike it.

>>385487660

I generally disregard anyone who says anything good about anything related to the N64 as it's the surest sign of a 90s baby or someone who grew up in the dawn of video game cancer.

Healing items are too powerful and easily acquired and trivialize the gameplay entirely unless you play on very hard where everything's a one hit kill which isnt a reasonable alternative

>>385487745
>>385487672

>>385487537
How is that even an excuse? It's okay to rehash shit if you don't make as often as others?
And please, taro couldn't even give up the shmup bullshit and still found a way to shove save deletion into the game.

I can't eait for the >b-but it's a sequel excuse.

>>385487745
existenial nihilism is only taken seriously by edgy 13 year olds and even so nier fails to convey any sort of message about anything really, it just makes you feel emotional because it uses music and cutscenes and gameplay well

>>385487727
thanks for the upvote friend

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I'm not sure if it's even possible for someone to dislike it to begin with.

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BotW.

>>385488129
>How is that even an excuse? It's okay to rehash shit if you don't make as often as others?

No, I'm asking you to put it in the context of how many games have been released.

In a sea of Ubishit and yearly CoD/BFs, you're going to complain about Taro rehashing stuff? Fuck off.

>And please, taro couldn't even give up the shmup bullshit and still found a way to shove save deletion into the game.

Oh wow, a legit good gimmick that greatly enhances the ending of original Nier AND is pretty much integral to the experience of Ending E and has only been done twice.

Again: There are things that deserve your complains. There are not.

>>385488131
>existenial nihilism is only taken seriously by edgy 13 year olds

I don't like it either but it is a legitimate and huge philosophical branch.

>and even so nier fails to convey any sort of message about anything really, it just makes you feel emotional because it uses music and cutscenes and gameplay well

Wrong. The message is that if you are truly passionate about something, then life does have meaning. Even if that something is as stupid as being invested into two video-game characters, which is what happens at the end - players from the entire world join together to fight for the sake of the characters they love against an world that was programmed to be pointless and impossible - and win.

There is a reason of why the questions trying to make you quit Ending E stress how pointless it all is - that is literally nihilism personified in the figure of the game.

>>385488703
gr8 b8

>>385483306

I like it because Yoko Taro is so autistic he adds a weird flavor to his games that rubs me the right way.

>>385488756
>There
These*

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>>385483076
Agreed. Also this one for me.

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>>385483076

Nier had it's moments, but the gameplay was so repetitive and dull that it made me question whether it was really a platinum game. The level-scaling system was frequently off the mark, almost every fight was either a cakewalk or a long painful grind. It's rare for platinum to get it so wrong, but I guess trying to balance the game around multiple breakthroughs has its challenges.

Which is the other problem with this game: you have to slog through the entire campaign multiple campaigns to unlock the actual meat of the plot (or so I'm told). I dropped it about 75% through the second playthrough, since it was almost all identical content with maybe half an hour of new stuff.

Prove me wrong. I would love it if there was just some glitch that fucked up my game and made the gameplay awful, or if the story was about to get good right when I quit. My experience with nier was just too weak to explain why everyone else thought it was a masterpiece.

I'll watch an LP of it sometime, I guess.

>>385488756
>it's okay because CoD does it
This is a new low even for nu/v/.

>>385488756
summing up the message of a piece in a sentence doesn't mean that that message is conveyed effectively. If anything, if you can sum up the message of something so simply it's a pretty shit piece of art to begin with. Nier feels like an incoherent mess which is a pretty standard thing to expect from Japanese game auteurs with their heads up their asses

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>>385488842
OP here. You are my nigger.

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>People ITT unironically too stupid for Automata

>>385487479
That's not even close to what anon said.

>>385488894
That's not at all what he was saying. Learn context.

>>385488956
>Nier feels like an incoherent mess
I thought it was startlingly coherent considering how off-the-wall it was. Maybe you're just an idiot?

>>385488887
This is why Automata fans should stop overselling the game. It's not for everyone no matter how much they cry that it's a 10/10 masterpiece. People who played the first Nier and knew it was special weren't this rabid about it.

Ocarina of Time

>>385483545
>people who are offended by t&a
kys

>>385488956
>summing up the message of a piece in a sentence doesn't mean that that message is conveyed effectively.

Except it is. Like, I really hate to be that guy, but you are sounding like you're just too dumb to understand it. The message was conveyed pretty effectively through Ending E, with the game serving as an extremely effective setup.

This is not the only message of Automata, of course, but is the main one IMO.

>If anything, if you can sum up the message of something so simply it's a pretty shit piece of art to begin with.

What kind of fucked up definition is that? If the message is simple, it's shit?

The message of pretty much any good work of art can be summed up in a sentence. You are taking these stupid definitions out of your ass just for the sake of being contrarian.

>Nier feels like an incoherent mess which is a pretty standard thing to expect from Japanese game auteurs with their heads up their asses

As someone who actually studies narrative, Automata's is far from being incoherent. Really don't see where you're getting this from.

>>385488990
And you are my nigger.

>>385487804
I always hated Halo but I'm not a FPS guy in general. 007 and Perfect Dark were the exceptions.

>>385487931
>trivialize
Why does this board love saying this so much? /v/ has trivialized the word trivialize.

>>385489467
Not being for everyone and being a 10/10 masterpiece are not mutually exclusive.

Automata IS a masterpiece, but obviously not everyone is going to enjoy it. Especially if you're the kind of person that "weeb" things are a turn-off, or if you place more value in plot (As in, the story the characters are living) than in message (The things said plot make you think about and discuss).

And the game is not flawless either. The plot is really not that special compared to the philosophical discussion, and while 9S and 2B's relationship is absolutely excellent and one of the best concepts for a romantic plot I've seen in any medium, most of the best parts of it are in supplementar material. You can't get the whole picture from just the game and that's a shame.

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I've realized after the fact that women who don't find this game at least charming is early warning sign for bad relationship. Just the first 45 minutes should be funny to anyone.

>>385489530
>The message of pretty much any good work of art can be summed up in a sentence
if the message of something can be summed up in a sentence, why bother making the game? The power of art is to make something with a message that goes beyond words. The narrative may not be incoherent, but any themes or deeper messages it tries to communicate are. Nier just does a bait and switch where it makes you feel like a message is being conveyed just because you feel emotional after you've played a well-made game

>>385489771
saying OP is confusing in message board context

>>385489810
And how about the um... gameplay?

I don't know if it has been mentioned probably it has, but Bloodborne. Even my absolutely normie core every year buyin Call of Duty friend loved it.

Also I'd say Skyrim but so can understand why someone wouldn't like it, but when someone just says "I hate Skyrim" with absolutely no justification I can't take them seriously. Tell me why you hate it and I'll tell you if you are right in hating it.

>>385489990
Best action game ever made in terms of fluidity and level of control.

>>385483545
I actually feel sorry that people this stupid exist

>>385489928
Are you slow, or do you just lack reading comprehension? That guy clearly explained that art can be summed up (one of the neat things you can do with language don't ya know), but that doesn't mean art is pointless.

>Opinions matters
Cuck.bmp

>>385488792
Basically this. It's all the little things; the attention to detail is unlike any modern rpg design

>>385489473
Not offended at all. I just resent how it colored the game's reception with a bunch of frustrated virgins.

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>not playing any game bc muh graphics or using any argument that includes the words "aged well"

>>385490101
Are you slow? My point was that you can't. Summarizing the meaning of art is like explaining a joke

>>385490197
>frustrated virgins are the only people who like a good sex object
nope

>>385490231
Ghouls and Ghosts aged like complete shit though.

>>385490231
To be fair gaming has serious generational gaps unlike any other piece of media. RPGs without automapping for example are downright unplayable for anyone who didn't grow up with them.

>>385490079
Explain

>>385487537
Nigger he does the same shit in every game especially general tone, feel, and leaving out plot that should be in the game and having to release side material

>>385490335
>>385490339
faggots

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>>385483306
I like it because there are at least 20 memorable scenes/fights that I'll always remember fondly.

Most games struggle to produce more than a handful and result in a forgettable experience.

>>385489928
>if the message of something can be summed up in a sentence, why bother making the game? The power of art is to make something with a message that goes beyond

You're talking, talking and saying nothing.

Pick any great work of literature, show to someone who actually know their shit, and they'll be able to tell you its main message in a sentence.

>The narrative may not be incoherent, but any themes or deeper messages it tries to communicate are.

It isn't though, and you haven't provided any examples of why you think so.

If you didn't get the message during Ending E, you really might have some intellectual deficit.

>Lots of questions driving the point home: Life is meaningless, you'll never win, and you should give up
>You're supposed to refuse it, showing your resolve to never give up even on the face of literally impossible odds, because you love those characters/the game and want to see them well/want to finish it.
>Meanwhile, the entire world cheer you on, telling you not to give up
>Help comes. The music now receive a choir of voices - the voices of the world banding together.
>With your combined powers, you destroy the literal creators of the game, the people who created that world purposefully bleak and pointless. You are literally rejecting reallity - and reallity, in Nier, is nihilist (This is reinforced multiple times throughout the game)
>Therefore, you, the players, are rejecting nihilism.

The message is driven home even more by all the NPC machines with their sidequests. The vast majority of them boil down to "They are very passionate about things and this give them a reason to live without the machine network, even if that thing is something as stupid as being a very fast racer.

>>385489990
Perfectly okay. Combat feel satisfying, the characters control extremely well and you can rack up damage pretty fast.

That being said, its nothing spetacular. It's neither a positive nor a negative - it's just means to an end.

Super Mario 64
Super Metroid
OOT
HL
HL2
Ghost Trick (not that anyone in their right mind can dislike this game)
Metroid Prime
RE4
RE1
RE1 remaster
Doom

The rest I think are too subject to taste but some these are the few that I just feel like they're only disliked to be contrarian or because of some meme opinion video. In thinking on this, I never realized how polarizing Western classics are. Planescape, Wasteland, and Fallout 1&2 are some of my favorite games but I'd be pretty narrow minded to say I lost respect if you didn't like it. Their gameplay isn't really something to write home about, they're basically less free pen and paper campaigns. I love Unreal Tournament too but not everyone wants to LAN it up all the time.

>>385483076
itt: a childish way of thinking about things that, if you think like this, makes their respect for your opinion worthless

and no I didn't like it. a random nobodies respect be damned. grow up and learn to handle others opinions.

>>385490593
>Lumping in Primeturd and RE4 with classics

>>385490297
>My point was that you can't.
You're an idiot then, sorry.
>Summarizing the meaning of art is like explaining a joke
Duh? What does that have to do with anything?

>>385490397
I know, but his gimmicks still feel fresh because of how little they are actually used.

You gave Urobuchi as an example, and it's a good one. You are right - he does the same story. But he doesn't do that many stories.

I watched Madoka, and then I watched Kamen Rider Gaim. They boild down to many similarities, even the ending is the same, with the MC sacrificing their humanity and individuality for the common good. But they are just two forms of the same story, and they have their own particular twists to it.

Yes, Automata and Nier boil down to the same gimmicks, but the themes the games work are different (they do have one common theme though - Tools of humanity becoming humans themselves) and they have their own twists and, thus, they still feel fresh.

If I had to watch a Urobuchi anime every year or play a Taro game every year they would grow tiresome fast. But I don't, and neither do you.

Also, this complains feel a bit pedantic. It's like saying Tolkien is shit because all his work is about worldbuilding a fantasy world and traditional sword-and-sorcery stuff.

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You cannot say you know or like games beyond a casual hobby

NIGGER.

>>385490456
This game is made for easily impressed weeaboos, nothing proves it more than a single line said by 2B in Endings A and B
You should know the context

"But you'll lose you, the you that exists with this very moment"

This single line is a microcosm of every problem of calling Automata good art, people simply get swept up in themes and general idea rather than the actual execution which also applies to the soundtrack

>>385490919
/thread

>>385490456
Honestly, I don't know the game well enough to give a well-reasoned criticism of exactly why it's shit, but analyzing WHAT is being said is no measure of how good, effective, relevant, inspiring, etc. that message is. You could come up with a list of bullet points like that for the worst piece of shit in the world. Or the best

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I wish I had baseball-bat-induced amnesia so I could play it again for the first time.

>>385490973
What's the problem with the line?

It's pretty classical stuff of any work that deals with conscience, especially on machines - When 9S blows up and is revived, is the new 9S really him?

No, the being that existed before is dead, this is just a new being with the same memories and personality.

It's pretty much just the teleport paradox, but again, no problem with that.

Also you need to think of this from 2B's perspective. She lives with the burden of killing the guy over and over, and she realizes it IS actual murder, even if he "comes back" every time, because that version of 9S she killed is an 9S that is dead.

Also, remember: She loves him as well, she has loved him for some time when the game starts if I'm not misremembering stuff.

>>385491251
>Honestly, I don't know the game well enough to give a well-reasoned criticism of exactly why it's shit

And I think this sentence sums up why you should shut the fuck up.

Learn about the thing you are trying to talk about, you idiot. Be it praising or criticizing. People being ignorant and proud is what is ruining this goddamn world.

>but analyzing WHAT is being said is no measure of how good, effective, relevant, inspiring, etc. that message is. You could come up with a list of bullet points like that for the worst piece of shit in the world. Or the best

I'm replying directly to your accusation of the game's message being presented badly. I'm demonstrating that it is not.

The other guy is right, you're just slow and stupid. No point in arguing with you anymore.

>>385491593
so I can't call something shit just because I think it's shit? I didn't know we were on Reddit. You're not saying anything about the presentation, you're just saying what's being presented. Not how effective the presentation actually is. It sounds like I'm reading a game review

>>385491593
What's the problem? It's completely transparent, and unnatural. It exists to fill in those dumb audience members that ask why a character is sad when a robot dies in a movie.

>Also, remember: She loves him as well, she has loved him for some time when the game starts if I'm not misremembering stuff.
Geez it's almost like that is a contrivance in itself, fucking having natural character interaction if the theme is good right?

But the fact that you have to ask why that kind is bad is telling of your intelligence, i should've stopped there

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>>385486949
Funny how you're talking shit but the right game is easily recognizable while the left game is a literally who. Thank god they made the most realistic looking black man though, glorious western devs really know what they're doing when it comes to making an interesting and recognizable art style.

>>385491790
Nier Automata is Slave Knight Gael: the video game

>>385491902
>What's the problem? It's completely transparent, and unnatural. It exists to fill in those dumb audience members that ask why a character is sad when a robot dies in a movie.

Okay, got your point. And I'll give it to you - show, don't tell.

That being said, its not a bad scene, just not an optimal one.

>Geez it's almost like that is a contrivance in itself, fucking having natural character interaction if the theme is good right?

As I said in other post, yeah, I agree - the best parts of character interaction are in outside material, and this is a flaw.

>But the fact that you have to ask why that kind is bad is telling of your intelligence, i should've stopped there

If you're going to be an ass then maybe you should, because, contrary to the discussion with that other dense retard, I'm actually enjoying discussing with you. Mostly because you don't seem to be stupid.

>Boring, generic, mediocre action game
>BUT DUDE IT WAS MADE BY PLATINUM, WAS WRITTEN BY TARO, AND HAS A ROBOT WAIFU, THAT MEANS IT'S A MASTERPIECE!

>>385483076
>tfw my 60 year old dad plays this game

>>385492104
>not being able to differentiate between Battlefield and Call of Duty

I can hear the fidgets spinning from here

>>385492104
>Battlefield 4
>literally who
Not him, but what planet do you live on? A lot more people will know the left game than the right.

>>385492368
alright, here's a criticism for you
the fourth wall breaking ending is cheesy and emotionally manipulative because it's basically the ultimate deus ex machina instead of actually allowing the plot to resolve itself
and people think it's amazing because it's clever and it has emotional music when narratively it's barely a step above ending something with "and it was all a dream and they lived happily ever after"

>>385486983
>you're fucked

I need to replay this game. It's been way too long

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>>385492641

>>385492698
There's an ingame reason for them being alive though, the Pods gained sentience, and decided to go against their intended programming by restoring their data instead of destroying it.

>>385490593
idk dude i was playing hl and dropped it after a few hours in because it felt dull.

>>385492580
I'm mad jelly.

>>385492698
>the fourth wall breaking ending is cheesy and emotionally manipulative because it's basically the ultimate deus ex machina instead of actually allowing the plot to resolve itself

"Emotionally manipulative" is not valid critiscism - all art manipulate emotion, it's the fucking point. The scene is supposed to manipulate your emotions.

And the plot was resolved - the machines are not going to wipe the server on the moon anymore and the world is left for the Androids. The war is over. And this was not Deus Ex Machina'd

Ending E is not really a resolution of plot as much as it is a resolution of the themes.

>and people think it's amazing because it's clever and it has emotional music when narratively it's barely a step above ending something with "and it was all a dream and they lived happily ever after"

Again, at this point, the plot is mostly solved. It's just a chance to change the outcome of those three characters.

Being clever sounds like good basis to call something amazing. Ending E is good because it uses the medium well - it enhances video-games as an artistic medium. It could not have been done in a movie or book.

>>385490231

Just, WOW. Game used to be really fun.

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>>385483152
Bad taste.

>>385492880
well, that's a SMALLER deus ex machina I guess, but what part do people remember, that, or Yoko Taro basically giving them a handjob? The whole story is set up basically to appeal to people who can't tell the difference between emotion and meaning

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>>385490231
great list but you missed one

>>385493148
>"Emotionally manipulative" is not valid critiscism - all art manipulate emotion, it's the fucking point. The scene is supposed to manipulate your emotions.
yeah, cause there's no difference between high art and advertising right? Art can be embedded with real meaning or it can be embedded with something that takes the outer form of meaning, makes you feel emotional but has no substance. Like artifical flavouring. This is the latter. Being clever is pulling off a small trick. Being clever doesn't carry a story, at least not this type of story

>>385492805
>seriously trying to state that a semi-niche Japanese game is more recognizable than a game from one of the most popular AAA game series

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There is just no way

Not gonna post a particular game, but if you don't like not even ONE 2D fighting game, not even just a little bit, I can't really take you seriously.

>>385484956
this and classicvanias

do you ever live your life having thought things were very simple and easy to understand and then some fella on /v/ comes up and will fight to the death over the belief that the sky is purple with orange stripes

and then some other anon comes up to him and instead of correcting him that the sky is actually mostly blue they begin arguing that it's actually orange with purple stripes and it makes you wonder

>>385494778
>Vanquish

It really is kind of the perfect sci-fi action romp in game form.

Actually, if you had such "discerning taste", you would be able to understand that Neir has gigantic flaws. there's almost no combat variety whatsoever in Nier. Almost all of the weapons look and handle the same, and do pretty much the same amount of damage. There isn't some incredible powerful sword you can get to make you stronger, just new chips, which just feels like a cop-out. The genre-switching from bullet hell to ARPG is stupid to begin with and happens way too much. There was no incentive to keep playing; all of the characters are literally robots who can re-incarnate themselves into new bodies at will. There's no suspense because there's nothing at stake.

The combat was pretty fun (and honestly the only good part) but by the end of my first playthrough I was not about to play through the exact same 10 hours I just finished but now with more bullet hell and hacking segments.

>>385497079
This. Not to mention how uninspired the side quests are, the inconsistency between having full voice acting and just text seemingly at random, and the graphics making it look like a game from 2012.

>>385497079
First way I know that you're a diphthong is that you think any kind of shmup at all is a "bullet hell". You uneducated vinyl siding installer.

Nier Automata felt like it was trying to live up to the emotional impact that the original Nier had. The side quests were boring and shit, and the pacing was really awkward.

The game's good, but it's nowhere near great. Also, the hacking got really old after awhile. There was nowhere near enough of 2B and A2

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MGS saga

>>385484864
>nier
>AAA
lmao

>>385493327
Are you saying advertising can't be an art form? Why not?

>>385498137
You forgot the word 'trilogy', if anyone likes MGS4 that's how I know their opinion is meaningless.

>>385497079
>There's no suspense because there's nothing at stake.
So you didn't even make it to route C.

>>385483076
nier automata is shit.
are you retarded?

>>385498507
This.

>>385493372
i love metal slug but i can see why people wouldnt like it

>>385488887
>I dropped it about 75% through the second playthrough, since it was almost all identical content with maybe half an hour of new stuff.
All of the new stuff is at the end of the playthrough when they get separated, how did you know how much of it there is if you never even got that far?

Half-Life. You are either tasteless, too young to have opinions that matter or a hipster contrarian if you say you dislike Half-Life 1 or never liked it

>>385483076
Nier automata
Ya,sure, I thought it has nice story until I play it
The story is shit.

>>385483076
I don't know anyone who disliked it. Even my normie friends who hate everything even remotely Japanese liked it.

>>385502206
shit eating /v/ contrarians

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The game's legit.

>>385498382
depends how you define art, which is why I said 'high art'

>>385502420
I like it but as with 90% of FGs, there's no community where I'm from. Have to find another to get my FG fix.

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>>385502938

>>385483076
It's the opposite for me. If you like it, I know you're an edgy teen who's being exposed to entry level animu cliches for the first time in his life

>>385502318
>disliking a game with bad gameplay is contrarian
What happened to /v/?

>>385503174
>gameplay is only combat
never change

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>>385503096
>he actually deleted it
thanks

>>385498383
I liked PW and PP gameplay wise more than the others, so..?

>>385503225
Well what else is there? Is traversal fun? It's not. Is there a DEEP complex leveling system? It's not deep or complex, it's very easy to manipulate. Every bit of gameplay is bad in Nier. If waifufaggotry is more important than gameplay to you, you're a waifufaggot. I don't know what else to say

>>385483076
>if someone doesn't like it, causes you to lose respect for all of their opinions about games
so you're like the average special snowflake on twitter that just blocks every opinion that does not copy yours 1:1

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>>385503305
>yet another retard complaining about non-existent waifufaggotry in a game where main girl is already taken by a canon love interest
At least do some research before you start shitposting, degenerate

>>385503378
I like how you don't even argue with my main point that all Nier gameplay is shit.
Also, yes, there's no waifufaggotry at all. Threads devoted to the butt did not even exist. That's a lie

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>>385483076
Well I'm an RPG nerd so
>Final Fantasy 7
>Final Fantasy 8
>Mass Effect 2
>Dragon Age Inquisition
>Borderlands
>Oblivion (nostalgia pick)
>Skyrim
>Kotor
>Zelda
pretty much defined RPG games

>>385503305
Heavenly Sword was ahead of its time. If it came out today, people would do the same thing they're doing to Nier now, literally imagining a good game around it so they have an excuse for their waifu shit.

>>385503547
The op said "doesn't like"
Not "likes"

>>385503547
>I'm such a le quirky nerd xD
>*lists a bunch of shit-tier games*

God I hate summer.

>>385483076
I played this too and while it isn't a bad game its a meh at best for me.
So many different weapons but they all have the same moveset kinda ruined it for me.

>>385502453
That sounds like an arbitrary subjective distinction

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>People unironically go into a Taro game expecting amazing revolutionary gameplay
>when his niche that people love him for is creating stories and settings that are sort of like a bizzaro-disney film made for adults.

It's very obvious that this game is made for a very specific group of people, me and you may enjoy it but it's easy to see why other pople wouldn't.

>>385503305
But it's fun and accessible.

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>>385488842
good game

>>385483076

I really enjoyed this game and it's atmosphere but I couldn't help but think that something's missing when I played it.
maybe it was proper optimisation because it drops frames no matter where I play it - PC or PS4 PRO

>>385503948
Pretty much this.
>>385483076
Whilst taro has a unique style and charm, the fact that you laud automata of all things as the epitome of gaming makes me immediately discard your opinions on games.

>>385505250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPrm1nrkZ3k

>>385505386
PC with FAR is 95% 60fps 1080p on a mid GPU. The other 5% is drops when a lot of explosions happen on screen, everyone has those and you can just blame the bad optimization for them. If you had fps problems in general by now with FAR you're doing something wrong or have a weak GPU.

>>385483076
It's ok, a good 7/10 but the half assed open world shit hurts it a lot. Could have been amazing, shame.

>>385487804
Anyone else have majorly mixed feelings to this ?
The sandbox-y way to approach different combat situations in the earlier parts of the game where so good for its time, but fuck me the flood levels give me brain aneurysm's.

>>385488703
This

>>385483326
Agree, every person I have met that plays LoL is an insufferable normie.

Having played Nier Gestalt first I wasn't nearly as impressed with Automata as most newfags are. Both are really, really spotty games but Nier 1 is a more full experience.

Taro's best game is Drakengard 1, unironically.

>>385494778
Hollow Knight and nuDOOM are mediocre as fuck though. Haven't played Galaxy 2 but Galaxy 1 was pretty cool.

>>385492641
I thought it was Crysis for a second. And I HAVE played Crysis when it came out a considerable amount of time ago.
Generic things like that and battlefield and call of duty just don't stick after playing it for the first time and not touching after the first year. Nier is here to stay though.

>>385483306
>opinion of someone who never got ending D
[D]iscarded.

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I like Nigger Automatica, but the amount of cum gobbling Tarocucks that think this is some philosophical and artistic masterpiece are some of the most retarded autists I had the displeasure of sharing this website with.

It's a solid 7/10 (aka, a good game), but stop trying to make it sound like it's god's gift to man when is some autistic japanese sloppy seconds he made after jacking off to murdering his own characters.

>>385483076
it is okay
stop shilling this game though, it isnt that good
also no game really does that for me, i keep the games i play diverse so honestly i can respect a lot of opinions on video games

I don't feel like that about any game, however I do lose all respect for someones opinions if they say they like Life is Strange.

>>385488756
>Wrong. The message is that if you are truly passionate about something, then life does have meaning. Even if that something is as stupid as being invested into two video-game characters, which is what happens at the end - players from the entire world join together to fight for the sake of the characters they love against an world that was programmed to be pointless and impossible - and win.

isn't that one of the most common tropes in anime? the power of friendship coming together to fight the big bad.

>>385489810
>Especially if you're the kind of person that "weeb" things are a turn-off, or if you place more value in plot

How many times can you listen to the same esoteric psedo-intellectual psychobabble about nihilism and existentialism before you realize the absurdity and get turned-off?

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>Game presents philosophical themes
>"heh, why should I be impressed with entry level philosophy"

Every time

>>385510025
Name five other games that do this.

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>>385483076
>watered down Bayo/MGR derivative shit
>GOTYAY

Just confirms to me that some people are brainlets that either don't care about gameplay or aren't knowledgeable enough about video games.

>>385509818
>>385483326
These

>>385492638
What? Battlefield and COD kiddies are the ones that use fidget spinners

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>replaying for first time since 100%ing and deleting my save
>purposefully not doing side quests this time because I was way overleveled the first time
>that entire beginning section of route C
JUST FUCK MY GOD DAMN SHIT UP

>>385510536

>Xenogears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXk2ujLlCc&t=24m0s

>Persona 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YeklrJJbOA

>Shadow Hearts Covenant
>I won't be really be me anymore (because I lost my memories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf_fRa608ow

SMT IVA

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3H4ZvmNrhA

>Final Fantasy 13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6auT2NC0oY

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tfw when want to play automata bu don't want to be judged as a weeb by freinds and family or be seen playing a game with such a thicc character that its basically softcore porn

is it worth it lads

>>385511382
You are a faggot and the only thing you should do is kill yourself

>>385511360
i went through mostly just the main missions because the gameplay wasn't good enough to justify spending another 20 hours with the game + the sidequests were shitty outside of some extra plot

from the beginning of route c until the end, the game was such a fucking grind

game was like a 6/10 for me, plot sucked but there was some interesting themes and ideas in there. never played a taro game before but i would probably buy one again

>>385487804
it's OK, the copy paste environments stopped me from replaying it

>>385511382
its not even a weeb game

>>385511362
Those aren't even close to sharing the same themes as Automata. You lack the ability to distinguish these things and are just dismissing any kind of nihilistic pseudo intelligent babble as being the same when Automata goes through great lengths to explore the philosophies behind nihilism and existentialism without having to place everything in a final boss speech.

>>385488756
>tfw permaoffline fag
>tfw never got ending E because Taro a shit
Thanks for making it possible for all of us to experience the ending dood.

>>385512136
>Those aren't even close to sharing the same themes as Automata. You lack the ability to distinguish these things and are just dismissing any kind of nihilistic pseudo intelligent babble as being the same when Automata goes through great lengths to explore the philosophies behind nihilism and existentialism without having to place everything in a final boss speech.

Please explain how Neir does a better job covering this topics than FF13 or Persona 3 or Xenogears?

>You lack the ability to distinguish

You are speaking for yourself. I recognize that the difference between how Xenogears or Neir coverage these topics is irrelevant as the core theme is still a concept targeted to edge 14 year olds.

Let me ask you this. Do characters in Neir (or any of those other games) act realistic? Do they talk the way normal humans talk? Or act the same way normal humans would act when put into extraordinary situations? No. That is the real problem and why this shit is weebo garbage targeted to edge teenagers.

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>>385497317
>You uneducated vinyl siding installer.

>>385483076
N:A, Suikoden 2, Vagrant Story, FFT, Puyo Puyo Tetris, HoM&M3

>>385483076
I can somewhat understand people who overlook this game. I nearly did myself after buying it along Persona 5.

But holy shit, NierA's greatness completely caught me off guard when I finally started playing it.

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>>385483076
Do you really think anyone cares what some dumbass freshman who only just got into 2dEeP narratives thinks about them?
You're giving yourself too much credit.

btw Nier Automata is repetitive and has extremely mediocre gameplay, story is nothing to marvel at, even thought taro's whole narrative writing philosophy is new to me it wasn't all that interesting.

As for the game which, if someone doesn't like, causes me to lose respect for all of their opinions about games. The answer is none, because even though I'm positive my favorite games are well constructed interactive pieces of media, I am enough of an adult to accept people's varying opinions and acknowledge objective flaws that cannot be denied.
Unfortunately OP is not capable of being adult, and as matter of fact, a large majority of Nier Automata fans are huge spergs that are way too attached to sexy robots and grade-school melodrama and philosophy to see the many flaws with the game.
What is it with Nier Automata fans? Everywhere else they're pretentious shits but mean no harm, but over here they'll insult your dead grandparents if you didn't shed a tear during the final hours.

>>385500208
This makes me mad

>>385483076
HL2

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>>385490231
>Super Bomberman 2

You sir are a man of taste.

>>385514278
>What is it with Nier Automata fans? Everywhere else they're pretentious shits but mean no harm, but over here they'll insult your dead grandparents if you didn't shed a tear during the final hours
Don't blame us for you being too retarded to tell apart falseflagging bait from real praise of the game.

>>385512616
>Do characters in Neir (or any of those other games) act realistic? Do they talk the way normal humans talk? Or act the same way normal humans would act when put into extraordinary situations?
What's realistic? What does it even mean? What makes you think you have a grasp of what realistic behavior is?

>>385512026
this. fuck >>385503547 with his bethesda shit, TW3 is essentially GOAT so far