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Alone in a Friday night? God, You're needing to play Guilty

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Alone in a Friday night?
God, You're needing to play Guilty Gear.
PC Lobby when edition
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I'd rather UNIst.
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buy me the game and i'll play with you loser.
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>>385464791
How should I open people up as Leo? I'm pretty new but it feels like when I'm in neutral just about everything I have gets beat out.
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>>385465108
Deal
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Who venom here
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>>385466125
Too hard
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I wanna play Dizzy. Is she fun?
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guilty gear general when?
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Post I-no
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Relative newbie to GG here looking for tips.
Any character with simpler inputs that won't get bad reputation?
I enjoyed Zappa back in AC+ but I mainly winded out in practice and listened to the music back then.
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>>385466350
Fuck that. Every single general always devolves into reddit tier bullshit with tripfags. These random threads with people mostly playing and discussing the game are the best.
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>>385466350
Generals die too fast and no one actually plays anything in them.

The casual /v/ threads are nice. People play, threads last for half the day, everyone's learning and having a good time.
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Does someone want to train with me? ;_;
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>>385467420
PC or PS4?
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>Guilty Gear
>In the age of BlazBlue

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I just finished Raven's episode mode. What is Happy Chaos to Jack-O'? It wasn't in story mode but they made it seem really important here.
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PC LOBBY
ROOM NAME : vidya
ID: 8vxp
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>>385467541
I'm a c-uck. what do you think?
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>>385467864
Lorefag will probably chime in eventually.
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>>385464791
Its trash
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>>385468043
Is there a retarded ping limit again?
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>>385468060
Ouya
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But what if everyone is too far above my level
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>>385468257
In the PC room? I'll join and play and if you get me you will probably rethink that statement.
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Why do people hate Raven?
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>>385468414
His gameplan is very easy to pull off
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>>385468414
Because even in high level play his strategy consists of spamming needles, throwing out the buzzsaw, and doing the same two combos until your opponent dies.
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What is this, 7 daily GG threads in a row? I love it, don't stop.
>>385465256
Your general goal as unga man is to get up close in their face while in Brynhildr stance. The easiest way of doing this is probably 236H or 5[H] (press H and hold). Try not to abuse 236H since better opponents will react throw you out of it if you abuse it too much.
Once you do that, go nuts. Your dash goes through opponents and is invulnerable for as long as basically all meterless reversals, you have access to multiple throw invulnerable moves (5P and 5K become throw invulnerable), 5H becomes a godlike overhead that you can combo out of for great damage, and even an unblockable in 214H. Remember that you can't block while in Brynhildr, so you have to counter or counterhit your way out of anything your opponent might do.

As for how to get in their face, that's the part that makes people say Leo is mid-tier. You start the round just inside 5H range if memory serves, so there's that. Otherwise airdash j. K or [4]6H YRC (his projectile) are good options. If you know his framedata, keeping up pressure outside of Brynhildr is going to be a must, but if you're just starting out getting Brynhildr up and running on most of your opponents will be GG.

Go look at http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=GGXRD-R2/Leo_Whitefang for framedata and pay attention to the frame advantage column. The more plus a move is, the more abusable it is. The DL wiki is probably one of the best sources for info outside the character discords, which you can find with a bit of googling.
>>385466405
Nobody really hates Ky, far as I know. He seems pretty honest until you realize how stupid stuff like j. P and j. K are. GG is very much a game where someone somewhere is going to go "that's so busted" multiple times for more or less every character in the game, though.
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>>385468043
welp, looks like no one wants to play, im off to play gigantic
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>>385468883
Thanks for the Leo help senpai.
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>>385466405
Jack-O has the easiest inputs. Every character is going to have shitters complaining about them.
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tfw alone on a Friday night with shitty internet
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What's so bad about Millia that makes people add her as one of the more difficult characters to learn?
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>>385469228
How many bars do you usually get?
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>>385469274
*Most
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lobby where
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>Bedman's win quotes
Holy shit he's perfect
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>>385469709
I'll make a PC one in a sec hang on.
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>>385469274
She has no simple combo that works on everyone, she has several combos that work only on one character each
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>>385466125
my nigga. spent the night using HS Mad Struggle as much as possible for extra style points
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ID: f28x
Pass: unga

Get in here lads.
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>>385470272
Platform?
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>>385470501
PC
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>>385470501
PC
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>>385470501
PC
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>>385470272
>can't join because I live in a South American shithole
Feels bad, man.
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>>385470501
PC
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>>385468561
Really? Kind of makes me feel like a shitter for playing him.
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Thanks to the recommendations I'll be burning some time with Leo, Axl, and Answer in thraining, arcade, etc this weekend and hopefully get at least a combo with one of them down so when I hit up lobbies with you fags and get my shit kicked I can at least maybe learn something from it.
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>>385466125
You mean
>who honest here?

Its funny the manliest character in the game is also, literally, the gayest.
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>>385467864
Seems to be a split personality or a new character so they don't have to scrap Jack-O for the next interations.
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>>385470896
I like how when Kazunoko beaat 310 in top 8 this evo, he instantly tweeted "raven is cheap :)"
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>>385468043
Anon... Fighting games belong on console. Sorry, but it's just one of those things. PC may be best for some games, but when it comes to fightan and third person, console is king,
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>>385470896
Play who you want, feed on the salt. Nothing stopping other people from gitting gud.
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>>385471047
>Venom
>Honest
Somebody hasn't learned how to use Bishop Runout

I'm just messing, you Venom players are alright
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>>385470896
If you're only doing good when they are caught in your oki then yes you're kind of a shitter

If you're able to defend yourself and don't suck dick in neutral then you're doing fine
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Someone make a PS4 room pronto or I'll take this little girl's hand puppets.
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>>385464791
Whenever I look at Guilty Gear it just seems like a competition to who can either get the first knockdown or put the other guy in the corner for their set ups and Okizeme, which is what I hated the most about SF4. Is there actually more to this anime fighter than muh combos and muh set ups
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>>385470272
is there a bug or something, there is no fucking way i have less than 1 bar conection, cant enter the room, are you from europe or something?
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>>385471674
yes but this game is more offense oriented, so you will see people going in more often than staying back.
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>>385471674
If you play Faust or Axl or Ky you can win entirely through just the neutral

But yes it's pretty much controlled by setups and crazy ass offense and it's generally easier to run the opponent through a rigged guessing game over anything else
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>>385464791
Sol please, I can only play so much Rev2. Just let me browse /v/
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>>385471439
Bishop runout was cool at first, but dark angel is infinitely better. Bishop Runout is only for being a jerk against really bad people.
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>>385470272
Man..Why's there have to be a connection lock on the room. There might be someone I have a decent connection with in the room, but I can't even enter to try with 2 bars.
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>>385470272
2 bars not good enough for you people?
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>>385471970
It's still pretty cool with the right setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vosST8GL6cM
Especially that chip setup at the end
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why are airdasherfags so touchy with easy execution characters and top tiers?
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>Get opponent knocked down in a corner with Sin
>Voltaic deign into run up rising j.H falling j.K into Beak Driver loops
Whoever said Sin has no scummy mixup is reaching; this setup is so scummy I love it.
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dude remake the loby without the conection restriction
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>>385471552
Make one anon
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>>385472212
Its neat and stylish if its going to kill, but Dark Angel is much more useful for a strong mix up as well as wasting at least half of the opponent's meter if they don't want to take a ton of chip.
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>>385472310
I'm a Raven main and I do mundane shit and get in. I really hate how easy he is, because Raven was my favorite character in GG2. And he's sheer retard tier in Rev 2. I fucking hate it.
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>>385472192
>>385472204
Can't have dirty peasants with their 5 frame delay messing up their flawless execution
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>>385472604
The final bishop runout combo will do 40%+ chip damage if they don't FD it and it's inescapable if they're caught in it and that burns their meter very rapidly as well

Dark Angel is definitely better in most other situations though but that one chip setup is really legit and burst safe as well
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>>385472612
we all hate you too
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>>385473003
I'm sorry. I've always liked the character and would stick with him even if he was bottom tier.
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>>385473204
you're okay, anon. here, have some smut
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>>385473517
I genuinely feel bad I main a braindead character. I don't deserve my wins.
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>>385466393
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>>385464791
>wants to play with /v/ on PS4
>no one here is south american
>get at least 14f of delay everytime i try.

such is the life of a south american. Not even SF5 has regular players in the region anymore.
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>>385473643
Don't feel bad. Just tell people to git gud and continue doing what you do.
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Is there really a connection restriction on the lobby? We got guys in here with like 2 bars.
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>>385473797
But anyone can win with Raven. Air dash then bnb combo into oki shenanigans. It's basic stuff.
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WEST COAST PC LOBBY UP

Room id: li43
pass: west

Scrubs tier here, don't be shy!
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>Kazunoko dropped his stylish Answer for Raven again
I guess when you're a sponsored pro, you need to be really safe. Give the man Order Sol already.
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gg's guys
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>>385474034
The other lobby is East coast USA. I didn't mention when I made it.
>>385470272
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>Have practiced enough to reliably get counterhits on folks as Slayer
>Don't know what I can do to follow it up other than roman cancel and then mappa hunch or pilebunker
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>>385473917
start practicing with a pocket character. whenever I feel cheap with sin, I play some matches with Baiken and feel better about being such a scrub
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>>385473917
Literally all characters can do that and that's what you should be doing with everyone if you get the chance

Raven gets a lot of shit for his because he doesn't even need to adjust his positioning for his air dash and every time he's successful he gets stronger.
His entire gimmick plays itself and he's rewarded very heavily every time he gets a hit in

The fact that it's basic is irrelevant
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>>385474185
Her design just isn't crazy enough when stacked next to the rest of the cast. She looks out of place. She's fun though.

Fresh DLC when?
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>>385474163
Watch a counterhit combo video for some ideas
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>>385473917
Anyone can win against shitters with Raven. But you still have to know how to play the game, and not just Raven, to beat good people. Raven is cheap, but whatever, just do what you do when you do what you do. Know what I'm saying?

Yes I meant to type it out like that.
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>>385474163
good thing people have complied counterhit specific combos for you to look up and practice
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>>385474163
Learn CH follow ups for specific buttons.
Like work on 6P CH combos, then P bunk CH combo etc
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>>385474034
Boo. I need to start making dinner now.
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>>385474163
Go practice tight links. Helter Skelter link j.H is a hard link I believe. Theres also linking 2K in pressure strings
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>>385473917
Just start playing better people, you'll realize how much more you can learn
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Want to learn pic related, but I have come to realize that I can't do the various DP inputs on my current controller (360), since joystick equals broken fingers and the pad is awful. What would be a good (hopefully cheap) pad to buy to replace it?
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>>385474034
again with conection restriction
jesus fuck
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I feel like Ramlethal is too distracting to play. The way she walks and stands around is too sexy.
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>>385474185
>>385474242
>>385474465
>>385474628
Thanks anons, I will stick with Raven and try to better my combos and do the best I can.
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get in the west lobby these fucks enabled rematch
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>>385474934
That's what matters

If someone complains about your character choice then be honored instead because you are good enough to set people off
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ggs lads
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>>385469274
> very low hp
> require to abuse her mobility for neutral, which is more complicated than having good normals or fireball for neutral
> very strict timing and spacing to set up disc compared to other fireball oki or just meaty normal. It disappears if millia get hurt or block an attack
> secret garden is situational and require some good read to make useful as well
> pin management
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>>385475065
I can't because of the connectrion restriction.
I'm on the west coast and I get one bar.
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>>385475103
I get a lot of hatemail from people calling me "cheap" and it hurts because the population for Rev 2 is so low, I don't want to be that guy that kills it for everyone.
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>>385474789
boners make you stronger
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Good games guys. The first lobby up above is closed now. Next time I'll lower the connection requirements so our uma delicia and euro friends can join in. And GG to that May, I'm going to get some ointment and train in the mountains now after that ass burning you gave me.
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>>385475327
Can you please delete this gif of my wife, thanks.
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new room pc
id: nhq3
no conection limit
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>>385475270
eh, you're not the only one. plenty of GG characters are cheap, which honestly is one of the best things about the game. people talk shit about my Ram when they spend a whole match in the corner, but it's all part of the GG experience.
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>>385475270
Just stick with it dude, or learn a pocket character like the others said to help your conscience. If it wasn't you making people quit because of your Raven it would be someone else's Raven or Leo or whatever. Those kinds of people don't play fighting games long because they can never get past the scrub hurdle of dealing with unga or projectiles.
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>>385475718
>>385475745
Thanks, anons.
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can someone please make up my mind between playing may and slayer

i just want a single character so i can finally get good
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Instant air dashing on the Wii U pad is unreliable as fuck.
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When's the best time to throw? I feel like I never really have an opening to do it and when I try I just get my shit slapped.
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>>385476457
Do you want to be dandy or a loli?
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>>385476548
i want a relatively slow character with heavy damage when they land a hit, basically the opposite of rushdown
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>>385476457
Do you want to be a vampire that can deflate large breasted women like balloons, or a loli with all the powers of a long john silvers?
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>>385476457
Even if you decide on a character you might feel it's not for you. I'd say the best way is to try out as many characters as you can.
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>>385476516
For Sol in particular or just in general?

For Sol you want to throw after you've made them fear your buttons then wait a tiny bit more and go for the Close S instead, trust me
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>>385476773
Then Potemkin is your guy
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How do I Baiken?
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>>385472612
Hey man. The feeling is mutual.
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>>385476928
Tatami spam, honestly. Its pretty strong.
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>>385476516
run up on a motherfucker and punch his face. do it again. and again. then the next time when you run up and that bitch flinches because he's scared, throw his ass into the corner
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>>385476773
Sounds like you want POTEMKIN NIGGA
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>>385476773
somebody throw this man a gif of a POTEMKIN BUSTAH
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>>385476773
Every character can get high damage in the right situation. For may and slayer you need a counter hit to get big damage most of the time you'll be whittling them down with knockdowns into average damage.
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>>385477136
>>385476773
I'll do ya one better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkqC5sm_qCo
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>>385475428
Based anon
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>>385477278
>Raven's o-face
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>>385476928
Baiken is a very reactive character. Watch some high level play on mdesilva's channel.
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>>385477538
>tfw real life Raven
>get off on getting kicked in the balls
Kill me.
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Thanks for the games Jambro

WEST COAST PC LOBBY UP

Room id: goc0
pass: west

Remade room to change rules to winner stays instead of rematch so newcomers dont feel left out. Scrub tier here, don't be shy!
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>>385477278
Leo seems pretty chill about it
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>>385477873
Naw, I'd rather just kick your balls
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>>385477976
End me.
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I hear that there is a resident lorefag here. Would they mind giving me a sort of quick rundown to the story of these games?
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>>385464791
are you guys using sticks? I tried using my xbox controller in practice mode, and my half and quarter circles were inputting as doing the lower circle, then continuing halfway up and around like 50% of the time.
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>>385478280
i think lore anon posted this a while back
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I got more comfortable with Ky this evening in practice mode. Anything I need to do, watch or learn before jumping online?
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>>385478432
Don't be afraid of online. Just play it, chances are you play someone equal to you. Just go.
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>>385478432
Learn how to tick throw. Something like Stun edge yrc run up 2P then grab them
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>>385478403
>Forgetting to mention that Chipp is President of the Universe
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>there was a player in ranked for once
>an Axl
>blows me up twice and leaves
>search again
>he's the only other player in ranked
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>>385479405
Ranked is mostly alive in Japan and on PS4.
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>>385479405
I hope you have learned from this mistake
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any good "frame trap" tutorial around? it will come in handy when I need to beat P mashers.
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>>385479509
which character?
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>>385479509
Depends on your character.
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>>385479509
Do you know what a frame trap is? That would be the place to start.
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>>385479619
UMA DELICIA
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>>385479619
What did he mean by this?
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>>385479890
SOPA
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>>385479608
>>385479614
Ky, Millia.
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>>385479952
He can make pedophilla look good

Then again, I'm not sure about May's age. How's that been working out for her anyway?
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>>385477914
Closing lobby in about 10 minutes, might be on later tonight!

Thanks for the games everyone
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>>385477914
>goc0
cant find shit capn
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>>385477914
cant find room anon
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>>385480115
Millia can do 5P > 6H or 2P > 6H if I remember right
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>>385480115
Well for Ky there are a lot of option

Ky's 6H is +11 so a lot of delayed gattling to another normal is a frame trap. However, you might have to condition people to press button as many are afraid to stop blocking after 6H. You can do that by run up and go for close pressure or grab after 6H. Up close, 2p and 2k can lead to frame trap with delay gattling as well, and also you can condition button press by doing the same thing as 6H by run up and 2p
again or tick grab. 5k to 5H is also a frame trap. There are also ways to trap such as gattling into 6k or another 6H

Generally, due to the gattling system and how long range the normal is, there are a lot of ways to frame trap and it depends a lot on your opponent, what character they are using, and how eager they are to pushing button at the time. Which button are they pushing? Are they trying smash a normal, or trying to backdash/jump out. Are they FD, do they IB.
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>>385479952
TATAMI GAESHI
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hmm thinking of trying to learn dizzy again. When I do use the fire bubble and the upward ice scythe?
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GGs to baiken and dizzy, I was the scrubby sol.
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>>385480503
>>385480725
He just closed it
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gg
this angry one armed womanlet sure is hard to combo
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what needs to be done to fix her?
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>>385482373
Breast reduction

More health or/and better defense modifier stun reduction
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>>385482497
take it back!
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>>385482373
Give her a second arm.
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>>385482373
Remove the robe, it is obviously hindering her mobility.
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I'm going to reinstall Xrd since I keep seeing these threads

Probably shittier than everyone here. Last anime fighter I played was Persona 4 Arena back in 2012.
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Is the PC lobby still up?
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Recently quit this game and uninstalled. Character designs are cool but there's too much little nit-picky shit to figure out on a character-by-character basis and the gimmicks get old really quick.

Not to mention I can't improve my execution beyond a certain limit in anime games. There's just too much shit to keep track of while you're getting your ass beat. Some of the least fun I've ever had.
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>>385483196
The last one might still be up. I'd make another one but my left wrist has been killing me and I don't want a repetitive motion injury.
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>>385483196
make one
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>>385483427
I'm sure you could be better if you tried harder. Sucks to hear you didn't have fun though. Hope you find a game fg that you like (unless you're quitting fgs in general).
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if someones buys me the game ill play it with them
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>>385483941
alright anon what's your steam id
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>>385464791
cant play with you if you dont fucking make a room fags
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>>385483941
Boi, you better be ready to work for that money. What sized Dragon Dildo can you fit?
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>>385483776

The games just don't flow for me. My friend destroys me with Baiken- who didn't even make top 32 at evo. I can't fight him with anyone. Everyone's either too execution heavy or not fun to play.

It's just not a fun game. I hate SFV more but I can see why it actually has an audience. GG is mind-numbing to learn enough just to appreciate a professional match.
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It's too bad this series isn't more popular but that's what you get for having girls who already got fucked, nobody likes impure sluts in Japan, not even in the US do we like that
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>>385477914
good games earlier. Baiken hits like a truck
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>>385484257
It's like the most popular anime fighter though.
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>>385484379
Blazblue is bigger in Japan
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>>385484229
>It's just not a fun game.
Says you
>>385484453
>in Japan
keywords here
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>>385484058
really anon
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045337274/
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>>385484229
GG is pretty balanced, so you should expect any character to kick your shit in, including the "worst" characters. As for the learning curve, it is pretty steep, and it does take longer to learn than most fighting games, that's usually why I say to have fun playing it first and you'll get the hang of it. That's how I learned. I used to get double P'd all the time in Sign, but I'm pretty good now.
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>>385484379
Nope. Through thankfully it's better balanced than Blazblue,Ultimax,UnIB and Skullgirls and more dignified, Blazblue is an embarrassment to play with how slutty those women look, Still, why do all our attempts at a general fail while Blazblue's keep trucking on when there's nothing of note in there? What keeps those people that loyal compared to us?
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>>385484229
It doesn't really matter who made top 32. Maybe there just weren't a lot of strong Baiken players that attended. Or maybe it's just bad luck.
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>>385484541
>http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045337274/

OVER 600 HOURS ON DOTA!!!!!!

REDFLAGGED AS FUCK
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>>385484647
im probably 1k mmr

i played and would listen to podcasts and play bots, pretty dog shit at it
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>>385484647
That should be an okay sign tho. Mean anon has some autism and could dump it into a fg
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>>385484594
Fuck generals man. That shit is the most reddit cancer on this site. They always get infested by the cringiest roleplaying waifufags and avataring tripfags. At least here most of the discussion seems to be about the game and its mechanics and a lot of people are actually playing the game instead of talking about Dizzy's tits or how much they want to overdose on hormones in the hopes they'll lose their bodyhair and bone structure and become May.
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>>385484751
ive played fgs just never anime ones

Mostly smash 4 which is the least respectable party game
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>>385475418
Gtfo, Ramlethal is mine.
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>>385484940
this.
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>>385484594
I've been a part of Blazblue general since the beginning. The reason it stays afloat is because one autist NEET sticks around 24/7 bumping it with unintelligible garbage. The quality content is very very low.
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>>385464791
make a room then
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>>385485106
>dat raven reaction
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>>385484568

Losing 20 matches in a row in GG just won't flow with me because I never know what killed me. This character has this gimmick. This other character has this gimmick. Oh yeah there's this blowback system with S + HS and they can parry that back to you like a volley-ball because I guess that needs to exist for some reason?


It's boring to lose in which is the worst. At least 3s which is horribly unbalanced I actually felt attached to the action. After the third time of being opened up by some high-low side-side bullshit I just set the controller down and let him finish out the match while I check my phone. It's just hard to give a shit when you're getting destroyed like that.
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>>385483427
Its ok anon, its certainly not for everyone. Its like me when it comes to Tekken. Being born in a country of Tekken players is sufferring.
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i think i just got tricked
plz dont report my account

ily
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>>385485431
>Oh yeah there's this blowback system with S + HS and they can parry that back to you like a volley-ball because I guess that needs to exist for some reason?
It's actually a very interesting mechanic and very beatable. If he starts a blitz all you have to do is start your own and it basically becomes a game of chicken.
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>>385485652

It completely pulls me out of the game and makes me wonder just what the fuck is going on. Same with the "danger time" system. That shit is fucking awful and whoever thought that out deserves a very aggressive untreatable form of cancer.

I just don't get it. The game seemed solid enough on its own. Why is chock full of so much needless bullshit that adds nothing? Most unbearable thing I've ever played and the first fighter I've deleted from my library (I got some real garbage in there too). I hope they don't do this to DBFZ.
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is El easy? I'd like to learn more than one character, but I also don't want to pick some one who's inputs and combos are to easy to learn

also is it okay to alternate between the d-pad and the analog stick , I usually fuck up horribly on certain reverse inputs
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>>385485861
DBFZ looks to be a simpler game (all motions are qcf), and it doesn't have as much game mechanics as GG, so less to learn. There's also the auto combos which you can do by tapping one button. If you're pretty casual and just want to get into a flashy fg without too much effort, it looks like a good candidate.
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>>385485861
It's another defensive option to add some variety to the game. And while danger time does add some unpredictability, it adds excitement to the game and makes big matches especially fun to watch when it happens.
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Why are there invisible tatamis everywhere in this setting?
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>>385486217
Baiken just brings them with her
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>>385485974
Yes Elphelt is quite easy to pick up, one of the suggested characters to play as a beginner.
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>>385484058
was i lied too anon
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>>385485974
the easy/beginner friendly characters are sol, ky, elphelt, sin, leo, raven
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I'm doing my best to get good with Jam. Went into a random lobby, and got completely fucked up, (got perfected lol) but it was a good learning experience if anything. I'm still debating on what other character I should try out next. I was originally thinking about Johnny, but I don't really like how "heavy" he feels, if that makes any sort of sense. Now Baiken and Ky look good to me. Any thoughts fellas?
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>>385486037

There's auto-combos in nearly every game now. KOF has them but you'll almost never see them used in high level play because they are so inefficient. The damage in DBFZ on auto-combos in DBFZ is high currently but I bet it will be adjusted. None of my favorite fighters have powerful auto-combo systems. I just feel like GG is needlessly obtuse and not veyr fun to learn or practice or lose at.

>>385486201

You say variety, I say another mechanic I'm not going to remember in the heat of the fight with a tatami mat falling on top of me from the right while the YRC's gimp-bitch floats over nad hits me high from the left. 3s parry is a better mechanic. It is simple and intuitive. It's something you can remember to do under pressure that still requires timing and fore-though.

Like I said though, I know the game just isn't for me. I'm just articulating why and why )in general) its audience will never be appreciable outside of japan. That's okay, all the games I like are either dead or only popular in mexico.
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>>385486561
If you like jams in your face fighting style, you'll probably like chipp. if you like her fast air dash and like jumping around a lot, try may. if you wan't to do the opposite and play more defensive/spacing out, you can try ky.
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I'm going to bed.
Wake me up when ABA gets revealed.
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>>385486561
Ky is an incredible character to learn as a beginner, I'd recommend him. Baiken takes a good deal more effort, but go with your dick if you must, it makes it all the more sweeter.
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Where's the PC lobby?
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I'm about to pass out, hopefully there will be PS4 players when I wake up
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>>385486657
>not veyr fun to learn or practice or lose at.
I disagree. I played for about an hour and a half tonight on the rooms here and found a few players close to my level and had a blast even though I think I won 2 out of 15-20 matches. It's not very fun to get absolutely stomped, but when you play someone close to your level it is very easy to make mental notes of what you're doing wrong, and there are a ton of resources out there for most characters that make it simple to figure out what you should do in general or specific situations. I know that feeling though, because I didn't like MvC3 when I played it. I didn't like the extreme combo heaviness of it, but GG feels a lot more my speed. What games do you play that are popular in Mexico?
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>>385486775
Chipp looks super fun, not gonna lie, but he also looks really hard to play. Or am I just retarded?
>>385486872
I try not to go with my dick man, but it just sucks me in. Imma try out all the people you guys mentioned.
Now, feel free to call me retarded if you must, but is there any real benefit to fighting CPUs? I like it because I feel like it helps me get comfortable with characters, but I'm not sure if that's really the best way to go about it.
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Who should I pick up as a pocket character? I'm getting Leo down but want someone else that's maybe a little less unga, just maybe not as obtuse as Ram.
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>>385487067

Marvel 3 (it actually has a powerful Mexico scene), KOF XIV, FF RB Special.

I also enjoy 3s a fair amount. Still on the fence for SFV but Abigail is alright.

It's probably just that my friend is too high level but he's the only person around to play with. I hate online too. Ah well, it's best that I just got rid of it.
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>Baiken is 100 lbs
Have those Japs ever seen a scale? She'd be fucking malnourished.
God damn, those tits alone weigh a 10.
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>>385487394
She's a midget, has no arm and no ass

That's why
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>>385487394
does that count that metal claw?
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>>385487394
she's 4'7"
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>>385487081
You can practice combos and inputs against CPUs I guess, but you won't learn much from fighting them beyond that since they play like shit even on the highest difficulties. Can't really learn the fundamentals without going online.
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>>385487353
it'll always be there for you anon. you can come back to it anytime you're bored. don't stress on it too much.
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>>385487353
Yeah bad luck man. I live in the US and in my area I'm actually like 20 mins away from a pretty big arcade scene where a decent amount of people play Xrd, and all my friends are playing it right now and we're about equal in skill.
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>>385487538
Yeah, I figured. Was just wondering since I got wrecked pretty bad when I last went online. Thanks man.
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Venom player reporting in.
Also working on learning Sol, but man does he feel weird now.
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>>385487708
One of the great things about the constant threads has been the amount of new players in the lobbies posted here, so don't be afraid to jump in and play some games. Don't worry too hard about getting wrecked, just make sure you take the time to analyze what happens in your loss.
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>>385464791
PC LOBBY ROOM

VIDYA
pass vidy

Dont expect anyone to be good
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>>385487262
pls respond
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Could I play this if all I have is a shitty 360 controller? The d-pad on this thing is ass
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GG newfriend here
could someone explain to me why Pot is considered the worst character
I know he's slow as shit and can't dash, and also his defense is crappy but I've always played slow heavy hitters and he seems alright once he's in control
I'm also learning Slayer since he seems fun
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>>385487904
Xrd is based on slash, not accent core, so expect dustloops instead of sidewinder loops.
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>>385488174
I'd advise using keyboard instead at that point. With a decent mechanical one you could go toe to toe with pad/stick users with enough practice.
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>>385488162
Pick a weird fucker to balance out your unga guilt, like venom or bedman.
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>>385488372
>tfw don't even have guilt and have to hold back laughter when people get salty
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>>385488180
if you ask me, I think pot is actually pretty good, and that slayer is actually the weakest atm. t. slayer main
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>>385488154
k-kowai
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>>385488154
What's the search code nigga
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>>385487513
no way
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>>385488490
Play Raven then, he's made for you.
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>>385488154
rqjp

no pass
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>>385487262
Ky or Faust
Both are pretty straightforward with good buttons
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>>385488180
it's really hard to keep those pots out
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>>385479509
Just play Johnny and 5H>MF Cancel>5H
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>>385488505
Everyone downplays their character, especially in this game. The cruel irony is that every character is good and capable of winning, despite some having a few bad matchups.
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>>385488945
I agreed until the last part because slayer has no good matches ups.
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>>385488661
yeah, Raven is the unapologetic shitter character for sure. Funny how he's a big masochist but the people that play him are mostly sadists. Not even mad though. So many people play him that you get used to it. I'd rather play an average Raven than a crazy good character specialist I have no experience against.
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>>385479509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAvwQOBQnE8
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>>385488945
Slayer's only really bad matchup is with Pot though. Everyone is complaining about Chipp and Raven right now but Slayer can actually blow them up pretty well.
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>>385488851
of course when actually can keep them out she becomes great

just beat a low tier raven with her twice feels good
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Doing missions to learn more about techniques but I'm already stuck at air hit confirms and alternatives to tick throw.
Is there any missions I should prioritize or do I just go in order?
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>>385479509
Just play Eddie and build your own frametraps.
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>>385488154
>>385488749
bumping
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What are Baiken's bnbs?
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>>385489806
The ones in the basic combos.
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>>385489436
i dont think theres any real order to doing them, but its good to do all of them.

if you are having trouble with some missions, it can be good to do them with this video, it has lordknight, a very good millia player going through all the mission mode trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYFTknWZa48
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i kind of accidentally went into ik mode and just said fuck it
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>>385489806
Baiken sub here. Here are some beginner friendly ones

Midscreen
2HS>Tatami Gaeshi
*if near enough, you can follow up with j.S>j.D to blow them to a corner. If youre far, the j.S wont connect,but it will make the string safer

2K>c.S>2D>Tatami Gaeshi>j.S>j.d
*For corner carry
2K>c.S>2D>Tatami>6H>Command Dash>P followup
*For damage. 6H link can be strict

Corner combos
(Corner loop)
Any starter that can lead to Tatami (2D, 2K>c.s,2H etc)>Tatami>j.S>j.D>airdash j.S>j.D>5H>236236S super OR 5H>Command Dash> P followup

RC combos
Anything that can lead to Tatami>Tatami>j.s>j.D>RC>airdash>land Tatami Gaeshi>j.S>j.D
*You can convert to j.D corner loop from here

Tech trap (corner)
Anything that can convert to Tatami>Tatami Gaeshi>j.s>j.D>airdash j.S>j.D>f.S>Diagonal grappling hook>Hook S followup>Tatami Gaeshi>5H>Command Dash P followup
*If they tech from the f.S consider them tricked since air grappling hook is air unblockable I believe so you can convert to a combo
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>>385489806
something something jump s jump dust
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>tfw kinda wanna pick up elphelt but all her gun shit seems confusing
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>>385491228
Rifle is for zoning. Sometimes you relaly need toto have good aim for it, but rifle zoning could really make your opponent impatient and commit to more mistakes.

Shotgun is for corner pressure. It is very obnoxious and one of the strongest corner pressures in the game. You can then proceed to condition them to block then do a command grab
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>>385491662
How do you condition someone?
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>>385491907
By continuously pressuring them with the shotgun, they're forced to block lest they get hit by it. Presto, you've conditioned them to block.

By doing certain moves, you condition the opponent to try counter that move. You can then take advantage of that and mix it up to open up their defense.
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>>385491907
You make them fear your pressure. For example, Sol in the corner is scary. When you're knocked down, the Sol can do Gunflame YRC>Backdash Fafnir and if the fafnir hits you, that will set a big damage dustloop combo. Next time you see the gunflame YRC you're more conditioned to block and never press buttons out of fear; to which the Sol player will just run up and Command Throw you since youre scared of pushing buttons. Same deal applies to Elphelt.
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are you more of a pedophile for fucking dizzy, may or jack-o
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Picking up Rev 2 and the Limited Edition of CF on Sunday.
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>>385492356
May
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>>385464791
Whoever you are, I appreciate the regular Guilty Gear threads
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>>385491907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQokP3RAWI
>>385492356
None.Two of them don't follow the human rules of aging and the other is legal just looks like a minor.
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Is it possible to OS a backthrow? Seems like 4 + 2 buttons always gives me FD. Is a backthrow just naturally riskier in guilty gear?
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Is the PC lobby still up?
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>Did 2S>Stinger aim>RC>dash>cS>866>jSHSD>6HS for the first time in a match
i know it's baby shit but still feels good to finally actually put something into practice
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>>385493221
you can only OS forward throw
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>>385492283
>Sol in the corner is scary
>literally just block low and FD
>Fafnir is piss easy to insta block

Only bad players lose to Sol.
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>>385493285
I can make a PC lobby if there isn't one going on right now.
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>>385493563
>literally just block low and FD
Hope you like having ROCK YOU imprinted on your foreheard
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>>385493429
soon you will be able to learn combos in the lab and use them in real matches much faster. that was a big deal for me when i started playing. keep it up my dude
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>>385493441
Thanks guy. These threads remind me of the old days on /v/ before /vg/ came around and people actually just wanted to play fighting games.
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>>385493563
>just block low
>grab into 50%

Sol isn't as scary as some characters, but you can't just block low and FD forever, because you WILL get grabbed, a lot. Which then makes you flinch during pressure and getting caught by something.
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>>385491907
Head and Shoulders
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>>385493647
>playing a rushdown character with no overheads

Sol is garbage and you should feel bad.

t. Millia main
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Why does the combo counter reset at 3K>6HS? Does it not actually chain?
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>>385493779
it only combos on crouchers or counter hit.
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>>385493563
more like just fuzzy jump out, otherwise as the other dude said enjoy getting wild thrown
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>>385493740
Grab is extremely easy to react to since tick throws can be jumped out of and wild throw loses hard to jab.

Learn basic defense. Sol is shit.
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>>385493429
Payoff in this game feels so damn good. I love when I spend some time training at locals and coming back to online and bodying people in lobbies who I could barely touch a few weeks before. Progress is extremely noticeable and is the reason I love this game so much.
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>>385493762
You wanna go m8 I'll put ROCK YOU on your asshole too
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all this theoryfighting lol, can anyone actually play or just sit there and jerk themselves off to theoretical "optimal player"
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>>385493957
At work faggot.
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>>385494008
epic dodge
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>>385494008
Quick post lewds so he gets promoted
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>>385494040
I'm sorry I have to work graveyard shift.

I need the money and I don't even have Rev2.
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>>385493930
Yeah, but you try to jump or jab during that pressure and you're getting counter hit into 50%. Thats the whole thing about Sol. If you get into his pressure, you'll eventually be in the 50/50 situation of grab or counter hit, especially when everything he has is pretty much positive. Sol isn't as dumb as some characters, but he definitely isn't shit.
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>>385494113
If you have Rev 1 you can still play someone with 2, they just have to set the game to Rev 1 in the menu.
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>>385494113
so then you're just a theoryfighter that's great
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>>385468108
stop posting the shitty guy player
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is this worth getting on pc if i already have it on ps4
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>>385494356
Double dipping is ok but I would suggest getting the PC version on sale. I relaly wish they implemented crossplay already but I understand that its a very expensive feature.
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>>385494356
I'd say yes if you're in europe and potentially want more people to play. It's a toss up if you're anywhere other than there or the USA cause your connection is probably going to be garbage and you likely won't have many people around. Most of the people really hardcore into it probably have it on both or just PS4.
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>>385494356
sure, if you spend more time on pc
if you want godlike load times
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>>385493762
yeah but he punches you really hard
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>>385494356
Ehh...not really. Tourney standard is PS4, so even if PC runs better, if you get used to it, it will feel weird when you have to go back to PS4. Only real reason I have it on PC is my PS4 is connected to my big TV, and I'm too lazy to switch it over to a low lag monitor whenever I want to play a fighting game.
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>>385494454
>I relaly wish they implemented crossplay already
Wait are they going to? I just bought a PS4 copy cause I thought they weren't going to.
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after my 3rd day in a row with a 40+ lose streak. just realize. how do you even win? ya i know hp to zero but getting in is so hard
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>>385493930
Sol's gameplan is simple but effective. There's a reason he performs pretty consistently in tourneys.
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>>385494571
Who do you play?
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>>385494136
It's not exactly easy to get counter hits as Sol when most of his moves are slightly minus on block bar Fafnir which is minus on insta block.

If you're patient during Sol's turn, he will be in a very rough spot. He's the worst rushdown character in the game for a reason. I'd say Jam is worse, but seeing that Teresa's Jam make top 8 was a pleasant surprise. Meanwhile, every Sol on stream got BTFO hard in pools and early bracket
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>>385494542
You can up your input delay if it really bothers you that much
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>>385494090
GG girls are not for lewd, only beating up
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>>385464791
How optimized is Xrd? Can it run on a potato laptop with an i7 and an integrated card?

Picked up XX accent core to try out the series when it went on sale and have been enjoying it a lot but want to actually play with other people.
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>>385494561
The pretty much said no
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>>385494772
It really doesn't. Anime fighters aren't as strict on most combos, so its not THAT big of a deal, but I was just trying to be fair and listing a few negatives to getting the PC version if you have the PS4 version already.
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>>385495013
Get counterhits
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>>385495013
Give them the succ
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https://mobile.twitter.com/sixnewell/status/890844588423999488/video/1
I wish Baiken was this good again.
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>>385495013
You do dandy things with his invincible jump cancellable dashes that can also cross up opponents and fish for counter hits.

Then you nuke your opponent for 75% off a counter hit confirm.
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>>385495118
"I biteloop for jesus"
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>>385494542
Does it really feel that different on PS4 on a TV? I don't have a low latency TV but I do have a low latency monitor and have been playing the PC version.
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what version do i buy on steam
theres like 4 different versions
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>>385494632
ky /sol
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>>385495259
Revelator and buy REV2 upgrade
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>>385495259
Guilty Gear Revelator with Rev2 upgrade.
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>>385464791
No ABA no buy
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>>385495259
If you don't have the game, buy one of the bundles that says Xrd Revelator + Rev 2 Upgrade. There's a more expensive one with some bonus colors and other shit and a slightly cheaper one that has all the characters but none of the extra dlc colors.
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>>385495368
One day my friend
One day
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>>385495331
What are you having trouble with specifically? Opening people up at the start/during neutral?
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>>385495203
I have seriously been tripped up going from a low latency monitor on PC to a local tourney on PS4. It really does feel different.
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>>385492356
May is of-age, she just acts like a kid.
Jack-O is technically Aria, so she's theoretically 200+ years old.
Dizzy is only eight years old and Ky made her ride the lightning when she was only four.
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>>385495013

Frametrap to high heaven, bite the sun, CH the god.
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>>385495592
>is technically Aria
No she's not. She's only half of her.
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>>385495917
so it's okay as long as you only fuck her when she's Aria
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Somebody fight me on PC
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>>385495501
basically not sure how to even win
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Any drawfags in this thread? requesting the "it's time" guy drawn like sol. I think it would a good way to start these threads.
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>>385496707
this one.
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>>385496707
>"it's time" guy
didn't you watch adult swim
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>>385476457
>>385495013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOMsfKjRpGo
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How do I play Sin's neutral game? People just jump over my stuff and I can't AA when people are right above me because Sin doesn't have any moves that hit that high aside from Bull Bash.
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>>385495149
That was a very interesting set. It's really a treat to see a GG game that has back and forths in neutral like this; maybe because Ive grown accustomed to very lopsided setplay. Even if someone resets back to neutral it doesnt go to "footsies" like this one.
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>>385496906
ok breh, bare with me, its gonna be a long post, gimme a moment.
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>>385496906
you have one of the best 6Ps in the game, at least 8/10 jumps can be beaten with 6P
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>>385496863
I always thought it was mugen till someone on /a/ said he was from some other anime. Now I'm not even sure.
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>>385497126
he even has the same tattoo though
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>>385496906
You want people to jump at you so you can 6P them for easy damage
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>>385496707
>"it's time" guy
you mean filthy frank?

Its supposed to be its time to stop... so I dont know if that helps
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>>385495013
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>>385497609
Christ nuke this board. We're beyond saving.
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>>385496906
>>385496992
Sin main here. Sin's neutral game is actually simple. You have some of the best buttons in the game and your goal is to harass them at midrange and check them with your far reaching moves. You then use that opportunity to convert into a high damage corner carry combo provided you have the meter and calorie to do so.

NEUTRAL
Sin's neutral is actually quite linear. You have the following tools at your disposal to make your opponent respect your space so you can play your "game"

5K - Fast decent poke. Good normal to start pressure with and gatling into from 2P. Use this if you want a decent check button that's fast. Since the move is jump and special cancellable, you can chain into Beak Driver, Elk Hunt, j.D or IAD j.S from here. Definitely not your best poke though.

f.S - The god. Good reach, fast and your go-to button for harassing anything in front of you. Use this to confirm to Beak Driver. f.S>Beak Driver>Trillion Stabs (5H spam) is a decent string provided you do it with enough calorie since it does good damage, and knocks down. f.S>Elk Hunt will chain provided you're close enough. Becomes quite risky if you do it at max range because Elk Hunt won't combo from it.

2S - Slower poke than f.S; hits more or less the same range but hits opponents that will try to punish your Beak Driver with low profile moves like Ky's Stun Dipper, Sol and Venom's 2D for example. It's also the go-to tool to kill Eddie in the Zato matchup. Special cancellable to Beak Driver or Elk Hunt as well
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>>385497761
explain this meme to me then
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>>385495013
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>>385497769

6P - One of the best anti-airs in the game. Got nerfed since its no longer Jump Cancellable, but still very good. Has great horizontal range so you can use it as a poke that can cancel into Beak Driver or Elk Hunt. You can convert into a full air combo from 6P provided your opponent got hit in a deep angle so you can gatling into c.S. The usual anti air convert is 6P>c.S>5H>6H>Beak Driver>Eat. You can also go 6P>c.S>5H>6H>j.S>j.P.j>S>jump cancel>j.S>j.6H>Air Beak Driver if you want more damage, but do note that the air beak will not knockdown.

5P - Very fast 5P. Is used as an emergency anti air for people who does crossups a lot. An important string is 5P>5H as it can lead to a combo or can be used to eat after the 5H as it ends in a knockdown. One of the few ways you can eat if you're low on calories and cant afford to do another special apart from 2D or throwing them.

j.P - Fast air to air. Used to catch people who are too high for your 6P to catch. Common converts is j.P>j.S>jump cancel > j.P>j.S>Beak Driver.

Beak Driver - Sin's best move bar none. Makes scrubs cry. You will use this move a lot in neutral, in combos, in loops. Learn to love this move because its the only thing keeping Sin from being trash tier. They might nerf everything Sin does but as long as this move exists, he'll continue to be a threat. Can be beaten by low profile moves like Stun Dipper or Sol and Venom's 2D so be aware of that. When the tip of BD hits an airborne opponent, it causes wall bounce and allows you to convert into a full combo, namely Beak Driver CH> Leap K>j.S>j.6H>5K>5H>Beak Driver>Eat. You can also cancel into trillion stabs (Will it hit anything?) by spamming 5H after it connects. Good damage provided you have calories. great for surprising them after they block Beak Driver and they think there's no followup

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>>385498072
If I'm going to spend the burst overdrive from the corner dust, I really just try to get the K pilebunker as soon as possible instead of RCing into it. Will often result in just around 300 damage instead of spending 50 more tension on that marginal damage increase.
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>>385496707
i'll give it a whirl, but no promises
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>>385498679
THANKS ANON
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>>385498324
Air Beak Driver - Separate section because it has different properties. First off, this move wont cause knockdown, but the recovery is fast. You can use this in the air to check opponents trying to airdash in much like j.P or 6P, but its usually done at a range. You can tiger knee this move as a way to do it in the air as fast and as low as possible making it great as an emergency check button to remind your opponent to never air dash in. Is used in "Beakwinder" loops.

Bull Bash - Call out move. Air unblockable unless they Faultless Defense. Hits overhead but is sued to catch opponents carelessly juping or airdashing from a distance. Best used when you've made opponents impatient by harassing them

Leap (214K or P) - Comes in 2 varieties. P version launches you a bit higher but has shorter arc, while K version is used to make Sin travel a distance. P version is sued for his Hawk Baker corner carry or as a way to do a safe jump when you're near the opponent. K version is used to do a safejump j.S from a distance if you knocked them with Beak Driver. You can immediately do airdashes with this move so you can use this to travel longer distances, or feign an approach by doing leap into air backdash. You can also use this to reset pressure such as if you did f.S>Beak Driver>Leap j.S. Do note that that move is extremely punishable and will lead to a world of hurt so use it very sparingly.

Sin's gameplan in neutral is to constantly remind your opponent that they can't just charge in your personal space, which is the space covered by f.S, 2S and Beak Driver. You'll always check them with those buttons, with the occasional air call out of j.P or TK Air Beak Driver if 6P isnt enough to cover air space. If you have meter and your Beak Driver gets a hit, while opponent is grounded, Roman Cancel into a combo, particularly
(e.g. f.S>Beak Driver>RC> run up 6H>Hawk Baker>Bull Bash>leap P>j.6H>5K>5H>6H>Beak Driver>Eat)

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>>385496874
>mfw all those crazy unorthodox confirms off hoop dolphins and beach balls
>mfw h dolphin that sends them the other way then confirming off the backwards wall splat
may is the dopest character and kedako is a fucking lord, good god
I wish I was half as mindful enough to be that creative with her
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Holy shit coming from SF and smash this game is pretty fucking hard, but I'm liking it a lot.
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>>385499131
I'm sure it's alot more more input demanding, but just keep at it and you''ll get the rhythm soon enough.
Whos your main (that better not be raven)?
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>>385499131
My only previous fighting game experience was with smash too when I started out, you can do it anon.
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>>385499331
Potemkin but only cause I play Gief in SFV and DK in Smash.
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>>385499037
j.D - Instant overhead. Almost unreactable unless you anticipate it. Stops Sin's upward momentum on usage. Can be cancelled to Vulture Seize (j.214S) for a quick pick up that can convert into a combo either by 5H or j.P,. Can also be converted into air Voltaic Deign (j.236236P) for a more damaging air convert. Is one of Sin's few overhead options. Use this move to open them up once they realize that all your moves hit low-mid.

Do note that just because Sin harasses from midrange doesn't make him a defensive character. You always have to constantly close the gap so you can continue your pressure. Usually when you end with a Beak Driver and they're knocked down, you use Leap K to close the gap and do a safejump j.S, or closing the gap with running up and doing a meaty 2D if they dont have reversals. The goal is to bring them to a corner then open them up. The moment you do, you're given the opportunity to dish out max damage with Beak Driver corner loops, or Beakwinder air loops depending on how you opened them up.

Do remember that Sin is kept in check by his calorie gauge. never be chain happy by doing Elk hunt>Beak Driver all the time because the moment you're low on calories, expect your opponent to prevent you from eating safely. Dont rely on chaining moves, instead rely on your godlike normals to confirm into your specials so you can eat safely.
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>>385499405
>Potemkin
Awesome, thats a honestly bad pick for a GG novice. I (honestly) suggest spending some time playing as some of the more basic/well rounded characters to get you familiar with the games mechanics and general "feel". THEN play Pot to your hearts content.
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https://youtu.be/EJv8gyAyV3s?t=15m7s
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As Venom should I ever really use Double Head Morbid as an ender or am I better off just ending in sweep/6HS and setting up a ball.
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>>385499502

Additional things that I might have forgotten when typing:

When Bull Bash scores an air hit or a counter hit it causes ground bounce. Do Leap K (or P depending on your distance)>j.6H>5K>5H>6H>Beak Driver>Eat

Beak Driver can be charged. Its ok to use this in neutral. In pressure string, you can use this after Elk Hunt to show them how its not OK to disrespect your pressure. Take note that if Elk Hunt is near enough, they can just 2P you though so watch out.
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>>385499714
That was intense as fuck.
>avoiding a projectile with a burst
the madman
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Will starting out with Jam and Slayer teach me good movement or will it not be generally applicable?
They both seem like they can slip in quickly and do lots of burst damage, which seems alright by me.
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What is Jam's best overhead option when the opponent is blocking? I have a hard time mixing up opponents blocks
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any scrubs still around for a west coast PC lobby? Threads pretty slow and I dunno if I should just go to bed and try tomorrow at more sane hours
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>>385500352
post it
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>>385500336
yrc firekick, her liu kang divekick.
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>>385500352
id play for like a half hour
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>>385500352
Fuck up my sleep schedule senpai
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Alright then

WEST COAST PC LOBBY UP

Room id: gh6r
pass: west

Lets scrub it up before bed
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>>385500670
>gh6r
you sure you are on Steam?

cant find you
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>>385500816
yep, someone just joined
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>>385500884
thats weird
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>>385500670
>cant join because 1 bar connection
The pains of living in canada
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>>385500884
>>385500984
Are you sure you're not in Rev 1 mode?
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>>385501175
Nope, using baiken
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>>385501175
im on REV2
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>>385489182
That's really only because Slayer by nature either blows opponents up or gets blown up. Slayer had no real sizzle besides big damage off of CH.
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These threads are like the only good thing I look forward to on /v/ anymore. People are actually playing video games and having fun. It's like those years before all the cancer.
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This is a strange question to ask in a dying thread like this, but do you guys know how to connect 2 controllers for versus play on pc? This really applies for any fighting game. I'm using DS4Windows and it works fine for one controller, but when I use two, it usually just doesn't recognize the other. I've been trying this on Melty Blood and Battle Fantasia and they both have problems.
I want to get UNIEL, but I'm afraid I'd just have a similar problem. Is there a way to fix this?
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>Tfw want to enjoy threads like this for skullgirls but it's always le filia is fat,this is my wife bullshit
Just hit me,man
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>>385501595
Only ever works for GG for some reason. I tried doing it with BB but there's really fewer players. The only BB threads I see these days are about Mai and genderbending, or RWBY threads disguised as BBCTB threads.
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>>385501015
sorry bud, I'll lower the restriction next time I make a room, and we'll just see if it's playable in the lobby
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>>385501536
Are you connecting them via USB directly to the PC or using some type of bluetooth dongle?
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>>385501725
it might be because bb has a general in /vg/, but a few years back, before CF there were some good threads
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>>385501821
Both directly via USB
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>>385501852
It sounds like it could be DS4forwindows. I haven't used PS4 controllers, but I have used a mix of keyboard/1-2 fightsticks and they've worked fine for playing on one computer.
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>>385468414
It's usually because all of his normals are actually insane, and he's really hard to burst in general. Not to mention he easily knocks you down and runs that 50/50 game.
I personally don't hate Raven, but I can definitely see why people do. It's easily a frustrating char.

But you shouldn't feel bad for playing him. Because every char is frustrating to some extent.
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>>385501725
>BB is dominated by waifufagging ever since Mai came out
>DBZ devolves into shitposting about dragonball super
>skullgirls is also full of waifufagging and gets bullied because dedgaem
>Injustice gets shitposted to death by Cuckcom fags
>MVC got killed by Disney
>SFV has garbage gameplay while taking a huge shit on casuals with its shit roster and no hype at all while pros shill it so they can keep getting prize money from tournaments
>KI is in dormancy and will awaken to save us along with DBZ when it comes to steam later this year

Guilty Gear is the last bastion if good fighting game discussion. Sol Badguy can only do so much for us though.
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>>385502175
we can't count dbfz though, it's not even out
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>>385502175
wat about tekken?
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JUST LET cS ROCK DUMBASS GODDAMMIT STOP CANCELING IT FIRST HIT
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>>385502175
The thing about DBFZ is that while the FGC is looking forward to it; the Dragonball fans who've never touched a proper fighting game in their life don't see what the big deal is. It bothers me that when I read comments like how it sucks because it isnt Budokai or Xenoverse is quite unsettling because these people will more or less drop the game the moment they realize fighting games require patience and hardwork for them to pay off. I just hope that DBFZ doesn't end up being "homogenized" in terms of gameplay like what most people who've played the game have said.

BB will always be waifufaggotry. I play BB but you really can't find a decent playerbase here. When /asg/ was alive though, I was on it everyday.

that new Arika game looks evry promising however; but its kind of funny how only a few people seem to care for it especially after the whole "PUT SKULLOMANIA IN SFV!" shitters. Goes to show that EX characters are mostly pretend to play tier than anything else.
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>>385502283
Tekken is full of shitposting from the SFV defense force. It doesn't help that people are still holding a grudge against Bamco for killing off Soul Calibur.
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>>385493930
>and wild throw loses hard to jab.
What the fuck nigga. Command throws have priority over everything
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>>385502283
Tekken is in a weird place. Yes, it did break the 1000 club in EVO but its not in direct competition with any 2D fighters since its the only 3D fighter that's alive.

I also don't like how a lot of the GFs in majors are JDCR vs Saint matches. You can only go to so many majors with those 2 in the grandfinals that it starts to kill the hype.
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>>385502175
>DBZ devolves into shitposting about dragonball super
that and every thread currently is
>post your team
without any discussion about the actual game, but maybe that'll change once the beta starts
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>>385502175
>KI is in dormancy and will awaken to save us along with DBZ when it comes to steam later this year
Wait it's coming to Steam? I might actually have a second fighting vidya to play along with GG then.
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>>385502648
Command throws have startup. You can't just walk up and command grab someone since they can jab you before it goes off.

They teach you this in the tutorial missions.
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>>385502679
Rosterfags are some of the worst kinds of people you can find in fighting games. I want DBFZ to succeed, but expect whining and angry threads about the nature of fighting games or how it isnt canon for Krillin to beat Goku once the beta comes out

>>385502731
Im also excited for KI. It feels like an anime game with a Western coat. i fucking love specialized characters with their own gimmicks.
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>>385493762
Raven has no grounded overheads apart from Dust. Chipp only has two grounded overheads. One lading into nothing, and the other that you can contest 100% of the time, since if he does nothing, he's like -7. Dizzy has no standing overhead either, but getting in the corner against her will result in you dying. Leo has no overheads outseide of his stance either, and he's still the scariest character in the game if he gets to touch you.
You are a shitter if you believe that standing overheads are a requirement for your character to be strong to open you up.
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How do I deal with high range air pokes as Potemkin?
I'm pretty damn bad, still mastering basic anti air but as soon as I got pretty okay at 6P'ing on Ravens and Answers I kept getting beat out by stuff like Baiken's j.S.
I tried Heat Knuckle but it seems highly unsafe.
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>>385502789
Sol's WT has 4f of startup and has a big range. Half of the cast's fastest normal is 5f
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>>385465265
Fuck, me too
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give me a quick rundown on Roman Cancel, I'm rusty
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>>385502959
Backdash, or abuse the super armor in Hammerfall. Alternatively, theres no harm in simly FDing/blocking
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>>385503024
If you RC after hitting an attack you get a Red Roman Cancel: Eats 50% Meter and extends your combo.
RC'ing in neutral or during the startup of an attack is a Yellow Roman Cancel: Eats 25% and meant for fake outs / slowing down time to get in alongside your projectile
Blue Roman Cancels are mystical things of legend that don't fucking work.
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>>385503024
Press 3 buttons at once and you can instacancel out of most shit in the game. Yellow roman cancel costs 25% meter, red roman cancel costs 50%. YRC happens when the attack you've cancelled hasn't hit an enemy, RRC happens when it has hit them. There's also a purple one but we don't talk about him.
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>>385502679
>without any discussion about the actual game
Sounds like game discussion to me.

>Taking about a game that's only 20% done
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>>385502807
Yeah, I wouldn't be suprised about that, but at least then there will be actual discussion about the game, hopefully at least.
Currently it's
>here's my dream roster
>my team is going to be x, y and z
>tenkaichifags complaining about the roster not being over 100 characters
>super is shit
>no ur shit
To be fair, we don't know that much about the game yet, but the threads are still real shit.
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>>385503024

Roman Cancel - can be done by pressing 3 attack buttons at the same time. Comes in 3 varieties

Yellow - Costs 25 meter. Cancels a move provided the opponent isnt on blockstun or hitstun. Can be sued to cancel the recovery on projectiles or certain moves in whiff. Can be sued to shit on your opponents inputs like rveersal wakeups. can be used to slow down time to see what the fuck is happening on screen.

Red - Cancels a move for 50 meter. Occurs when you cancel a move and your opponent is in hitstun or blockstun. Good for combo extensions and making moves on block safe.

Purple - What happens when you try to yellow roman cancel too late. Costs 50 meter. Still good if the situation calls for it, like punishing an opponent or making them think the move you whiffed is unsafe.
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>>385502865
>Raven has no overhead, but has a special low flying command dash while having a command grab with decent range
Doesn't need them
>Leo has no overhead outside the core mechanic of his gameplay
Go ahead and play Leo without Brynhildr Stance and see how well it works for you
>Dizzy isn't a rushdown character to begin with
>Chipp's overheads still have their uses despite the downsides that most overheads have to begin with

And you wonder why vanilla Sol is low tier every game besides Xrd where he's just "good".
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UNGA
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>>385503232
>Can be sued to cancel the recovery on projectiles or certain moves in whiff. Can be sued to shit on your opponents inputs
If there's any drawfags here, can we get a pic of Ky's lawyer serving Sol papers midmatch for YRC'ing?
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Holy shit, these May fights are super fun
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>>385503365
BUNGA
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As a guy who just got this game, which character(s) should I focus on if I prefer a reactive playstyle?
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>>385503389
Only if Ky's lawyer is Answer
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>>385503473
Baiken is reactive: the character.
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>>385503490
And Sol can be grumbling to himself "He's got an answer for everything."
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>>385503473
Slayer is pretty reactive
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there are so many guilty gear games on steam, which one are you guys even playing?
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>>385503595
Rev 2 is the latest one, so that one.
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>>385503595
Xrd Revelator with the Revelator 2 upgrade. They only released Revelator 2 as dlc for the PC version of Rev 1. They released it as a standalone game on PS4 though.
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>>385503473
Baiken. Slayer and Axl.

Baiken is reactive due to her counters
Slayer is reactive in a way that you're looking for a mistake and punishing that mistake for shit tons of damage. Axl is more "I fucking dare you to jump" type of reactive.
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>>385503595
REV2

ACR+ has a playerbase too I think but it's not as big
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>>385503617
all i see called rev 2 is a DLC

do you mean you get revelator and then you buy the dlc?
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>>385503595
The only ones you need to care about are Rev 2 and XXACP.

Rev 2 is the new one that everyone plays.
XXACP is the one butthurt poorfags crying over how Blazblue ruined Arcsys play.
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>>385503661
ah ok thank you

too expensive for me sadly but you guys have fun
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>>385503617
Yup
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>>385503695
Yes you buy the base game then get REV2 upgrade DLC. I think there's a bundle in the Revelator page that says Revelator + REV2
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>>385503667
If you wan't to play Axl, it's actually required that you see atleast a few seconds into the future. That's how I've understood it after playing few Axls online.
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>>385503326
>Go ahead and play Leo without Brynhildr Stance and see how well it works for you
Playing Leo without the stance is actually much better for you if you play against anyone who has an invincible reversal. Not to mention I'm much more scared of his projectile YRC oki than his stance oki in general.

>Doesn't need them
The same way Sol doesn't need any strong mixup. he ditches some of the most ridiculous damage and stun in the game by just whiff punishing.

>besides Xrd where he's just "good".
He was considered almost as good as Zato in Sign. And he's currently considered as good ad Ky, which is a char that's fucking fine.

You are just fucking delusional if you believe that the strength of a char is defined by how good his mixups are. Just look at the fucking top tiers, which are Elphelt, Sin and Johnny. All of those rely on frametraps and pokes. While having some situational mixups that require some big ressources (Johnny needs lvl 3 + treause hunt for tk mist, Sin needs 50 meter for voltic deign + good knock down he can't get that easily on everyone since Rev 2).

And if you watch the Mocchi - Karincyu set when Johnny was absolutely broken, you can just see how "not weak" Sol was. Because Mocchi gave Karincyu a fucking hard time, and the score was 9-10.

So please, don't try to educate people when you barely know about the game yourself.
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jesus christ i thought the answer's i played before were crazy.
This guy is on some eddie level " just playing his game and your along for the ride"
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what delay do you guys usually get playing online?
what's your threshold of acceptable?
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>>385464791
Pros and Cons?
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>>385503924
Man, I fucking wanna play Answer but Super jump IADs on pad hurt so much.
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>>385503994
For me I think 4-5 is really close to shitty and above that is fucking awful.
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so i want to play this game im new to this im usually a sf and tekken player, i want to main venom he looks fun how/where do i start? not sure where to look in dustloop im lost
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>>385504015
My brother just got one of these and I tried it out for a bit. Feels amazing and it has some neat features like tournament mode on it. Seems like one of the best sticks you can buy atm so I say go for it if you have the cash. I use a crystal myself.
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>>385504132
Dustloops search engine is broken, just google "dustloop [character name]" and you usually get the right page.

Go into combo practice, learn a bunch of his moves, do some arcade mode to familiarize yourself with his buttons, go online and get raped for 40 hours.
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>>385504132
This thread has a couple of Venom mains that can help you out. I personally don't play him, but he's one of the fanciest characters in this game. He's also a bit complex when you get to intermediate play since you need to know ball formations.
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I don't have fun doing anything unless I'm winning
I want to play fighting games so bad and I watch them all the time but everytime I try to play I just get enraged and hate my life
I don't know what to do
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>>385504021
I played enough I-No to get super jump IADs on pad down consistently. Then they changed the hurtboxes of some characters and since then you don't need super jump IADs anymore.
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>>385504330
Stop putting so much value in the W
Put more value in learning and getting better, or doing cool shit mid match

Focus on subgoals rather than I GOTTA WIN
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>>385504330
Stop being depressed.
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>>385504015
Pros: Is gud stick
Cons: If you're autistic about smudges and prints on your stick, prepare your anus to either wipe this shit down after every match or box it up and never touch it again
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>>385504015
Was planning to replace my Q4 with this but I can't find it anywhere other than American Amazon which only sells it to prime members.
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>>385504330
Don't play them then. Until you hit intermediate-high level of skill, you're going to be losing most of your matches, and even once you hit that level of skill you're still likely to get trashed if you encounter some of the better players that stalk around online.
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>>385495149
>FB Tatami
good times my man, good times
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>>385504330
Understand that fighting games require a certain degree of masochism from the player. Realize that losing is a part of getting better and that you can't blame your losses except on you. Its one of the things that make fighting games niche; people want to reap the rewards of the winning without the effort of getting better; and a good lot cant accept that they lost not because of the opponents character, or their character, but because they fucked up somewhere, or lack the experience; the latter can only be gained by playing a lot and losing a lot.

That said, when you do win in fighting games vs experienced players, the reward is so satisfying because you know in your heart you worked for it and you've earned it.
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>>385504454
make a fake prime account, just cancel the prime membership before you get charged

Its really simple actually
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>>385504454
QanbaUSA had some like two weeks ago. Not sure about now though. That shit was flying off the shelves during Evo. Just got mine in after like a week delay.
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>>385504402
>>385504537
I literally can't though
my whole life I've only ever had a good time when I was succeeding at anything
I can never be both not succeeding and happy
>>385504503
but I'm not interested in anything else at all, not even other vidya
I don't have anything left
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>>385504636
Consider succeeding at improving as a thing to be proud of.
Actually becoming better is pretty good.

Just gotta change your outlook on life a bit, it's something you work on gradually rather than doing it overnight
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>>385504636
stop being depressed
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>>385504015
>not using a hitbox
pffffffffffffffffffft
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>>385504636
You know what you have to do anon.
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>>385504636
>but I'm not interested in anything else at all, not even other vidya
>I don't have anything left
Then stop being a bitch nigga and play. The wins are sparse at first, but they are that much sweeter when you get them. The feeling of finally being able to beat someone who wiped the floor with you days/weeks prior is fucking amazing. It's like getting to motorboat Elphelt.
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>>385495149
+R is so damn wild. Baiken's combo were so much flashier and Ouren was pretty cool. Not sure why the game looks so much faster than xrd. Did the game have less hitstop?
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>>385504718
every time I've tried to get better at something I just hit a point where it becomes a tortuous grind if I want to not plateau and I cant stand it anymore
trying to improve isn't gratifying or fun to me, all it feels like is constant neverending failure and I fucking hate it
>>385504795
at this point even winning isn't satisfying when every part it took to get there is terrible
winning just feels like a brief relief from feeling like complete shit, I'm almost never satisfied with anything I did to get there
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>>385505005
Anon, it's time.
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ggs
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>>385505005
Then just don't play it dude. I don't know what you want us to tell you. There's no magical secret that will make you enjoy fighting games if you don't like the hundreds of hours of losing it takes to git gud.
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Calling it a night, thanks for the games everyone
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>>385505005
stop being depressed
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Will there be a thread tomorrow night too?
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>>385505071
then what do I do if I have no other interests
just watch twitch streams and youtube videos for the rest of my life and wish I could actually enjoy it myself?
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>>385505148
every day till you git gud
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>>385505205
Why don't you find other hobbies dude? Find something you like, because from what you're saying it sounds like competitive games aren't your thing.
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>>385505205
What are some of your favorite games anon?
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Should I check out locals in my area even if I literally started this week and can barely do the simplest shit without dropping my inputs?
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>>385505357
For the love of god yes. Locals love having new people of any skill level. People need to stop having the mentality where you have to be EVO ready to play in tournaments or locals.
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>>385505357
Checking locals is always a good idea especially when you want to learn. Provided of course, your local playgroup aren't dicks; that could really ruin it for anyone.

Anyone with a local playgroup that plays Guilty Gear is a gift. Treasure it; because not a lot has a scene for the game.
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>>385505285
I can't just force interests
video games are the only thing I have anything more than a surface level interest in
my problem is that I don't like anything
>>385505294
the only things that hold my attention these days is competitive multiplayer stuff like fightan or shootan but trying to play them makes me hate life
I still have games I WANTED that someone got me for christmas over two years ago that I don't care enough to even open
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>>385505462
Thing is I'm like 20 minutes from Next Level and some other place that does guilty gear stuff, it's just hearing that monstrous players show up sometimes is a little intimidating.
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Can I join for the next one? Me being a yuropoor I tend to have 0-1 connections, 5-8 Frames when I play with my Friends on the East Coast.
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>>385505558
There's always going to be players of lwoer skill level. Hell I attend locals with my country's best player, but that doesnt mean its bad. i play with people of the same skill level, slightly higher skill level, and the country's overall best and let me tell you the more you play, the more you will improve even when you lose. Don;t be intimidated anon; make friends, dont be an ass and have fun. If the guys at NEXT LEVEL value their playerbase, they'll teach you all you need to know.
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>>385505617
If you're on like 12-14 hours from now, I'll be setting up an east coast room and I'll leave the connection lock off. Some practice with high lag could be helpful maybe.
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>>385505558
telling you right now: don't actually enter the tournaments
it's a huge waste of money that adds up fast and you don't get anything out of it that you can't get playing casual matches
I wish I had realized this sooner myself
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>>385505851
What's the usual entry fee for those things like?
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>>385505534
It sounds like you have bigger issues than enjoying fighting games my dude.

Some practical advice, do the single player stuff like combo trials and junk first. It's less stressful since there's no losing there, and then when you get some confidence, start joining scrub lobbies and test the waters. But as others have said, you really have to stop thinking about that win and start thinking,"ok, I could have done this differently, I'll try it next time". Every fight should teach you something, and as long as you're learning, winning and losing don't really matter at all.
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>>385505916
For weeklies, about 2-3 bucks. For majors, it's usually 20 bucks+ and that doesnt even take into account food
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>>385505851
I disagree. Tournament experience is not something you'll ever get playing nothing but casuals.
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>>385505851
I don't know. Maybe nothing of raw game knowledge but surely getting the experience playing in a tournament is useful, especially for learning how to calm your nerves in a game that "matters"
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>>385505984
Add another zero to those weekly tournaments
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>>385505984
To make an addendum, the 2-3 bucks is usually your fee to actually play the game at the game store/arcade. The tournament's usually free
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>>385505984
>and that doesnt even take into account food
Why not just eat elsewhere then?
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>>385506043
Nah I live in a 3rd world country so weeklies are cheap as fuck, I just converted to USD. If youre telling me a weekly is 20 bucks, holy shit I understand why you feel you're ripped off

>>385506050
Just emphasizing that you're really paying for the pot; and not for anything else. When you have an undisputed champ, you might as well give him the 20 bucks up front.
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>>385505534
I say you try out OLDER fightan, like the kind that have bullshit bosses like fatal fury, GGXX Reload, etc.
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>>385505927
I've already gone through that whole song and dance man, every fucking time I've tried playing online in anything it just leaves me angry and I upset
it doesn't matter how much of a good mood I'm in when I start and how much I hope it'll be different this time, it's always miserable
it's impossible for me to stop caring about winning without becoming a different person entirely, that's how ingrained it is into me
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>>385506141
the only other fightan I've tried heavily investing into is 3rd strike, it makes no difference
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>>385506189
Tell me about your childhood anon
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>>385506141
Tenga should sponsor a fighting game player and make him fight team youporn
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>>385506240
No, just play the arcade mode of them once and beat some of them.
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>>385505986
>>385506014
>get destroyed in tournament and be out a chunk of change
>get destroyed in casuals for just the venue fee
>do moderately okay in tournament and be out a chunk of change
>do moderately okay in casuals for just the venue fee
there's no reason to enter anything unless you have the ability to win it all and make a profit, "tourney experience" is a fucking meme that if you really want to believe you can just do with cheap money matches on your own terms
I've been doing this for years, I'm telling you the truth
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>>385506345
but that's just as boring as other vidya, I don't give a damn about single player stuff
it's impossible to have any at all in a fightan you know nothing about anyway
>>385506258
are you looking for a meme answer or are you genuinely curious
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>>385506382
There's no objective experience in fighting games, some people can grow to top player level by playing mostly online, some improve more playing in tournament. You're not imparting anyone with facts about playing and improving, your providing anecdotal experience under the guise of a universal experience.
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>>385506479
I'm actually a bit curious because I can't imagine being in your mindset at all. But meme answers are good too.
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>>385506382
If you have no interest in tournaments then just stick to online. Your personal experience on the other hand doesn't transition to everyone though. Tournaments and casuals are completely different beasts
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>>385506553
This, some people play so much better when there's something on the line, even if it's just 5 bucks.
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>>385506382
The meme was real for me though. I would consider my skills good enough to reach top 8's or so but going to my first tournament I got so nervous I went into automode and started just doing really obvious and dumb shit out of panic. I have learned a lot of things from then which has helped me out in later ones
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>>385506382
Tournaments are actually a good way to be able to assess yourself. Because after all, you get recognition only for winning tourneys.
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>>385506570
my mother has been an abusive alcoholic helicoptering cunt for the entirety of my life and all I ever had to be proud of was good grades in school (which I always knew were fucking pointless)
she's stabbed by dad in the back before and I've had to physically restrain her myself to stop her from destroying things
the two people I thought were my best friends never gave anything back to me and now don't even bother talking to me anymore
my brother is a complete normalfag and I don't relate to him at all, we barely did stuff together or were truly genuine with each other
as a result my relationship with my immediate family is so awkward I can't even tell them I love them, not even my dad who's done everything he could for me, although we've also gotten in legitimate fights before (mostly because of my angry outbursts due to vidya but also because of the violent and angry atmosphere my mother creates)
this is just off the top of my head, missing a bunch of stuff but main thing is my mother, I would fucking murder her if I had half a spine
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>>385506982
lol
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>>385506982
Shit anon, forget fighting games, you got bigger things on your plate.

The only thing I can say is resentment will always make things worse so try to not let it overwhelm you. Work towards the things and relationships you can actually improve and let go of those things that are nothing but poison to you

Also try playing Raven, should land you some easy wins against scrubs.
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