>Playing online videogame >Kill a eceleb/streamer >Don't

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post yfw you dont buy early access games

>>385450643
>You get banned for playing the game how it was supposed to be played

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>>385450746

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>>385450746
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>>385450746

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>>385450746
serves them right

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>>385450746

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>>385450643
serial killer that kills streamers when

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BAHAHAHAHA

>>385450746
But I already bought it and I'm having fun

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>2020
>open the newest japanese esport game. all new games are japanese and esports, nothing else survives in the market
>buy a key and open a crate, get a darker colored burqa for my character. cool skin, pretty happy.
>time for a game. queue up and end up in a game with two partied-up streamers on the enemy team
>oh god
>have to stay ingame, leaving will be seen as rude to the streamers and earn me a permanent ban from all video games
>whenever the streamers come near me I have to pretend to shoot at them but deliberately miss, while professing my undying love for them over the microphone
>one of them says 'Haha! Shut up faggot!' and I say 'y-yes sir, sorry sir'', a moderator scolds me in PM immediately for stuttering while addressing the streamer
>at the endgame screen when we're making our mandatory donation to the streamers who were kind enough to play with us, I forget to add in the 2% fee for having the streamer address you directly
>the commerce police charge me with interfering with a streamer's marketing effort, I'll be lucky if I get 2-4 years

sigh...

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okay so, let me get this straight. some dude, just a player killed a couple guys that were streaming the game. the guys that were streaming the game, were very popular. because of that, the guy who killed the popular streamers is now banned. simply because the "victims" were popular. Is this correct?

>>385450643
stream sniping isnt against the terms of use
sure its a shit move, but not enouth for a ban

>>385453119
Do you even know what the picture you posted implies? Because it is not an objectively bad thing, which leads me to assume you're just shitposting.

>>385453390
In all of honestly it was probably automatic ban thanks to six million children reporting him

>>385453520
unbelievable.

>>385453519
gotta defend your early access shitty game
begone shill

>>385450643
Stop remaking this thread.

>>385453714
So you don't know, alright.

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>>385450746

>Playing any non-local form of multiplayer ever
Shiggy diggy.

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>>385453672
Unbelievable that he received a massive amount of reports from fans or that there is an automated ban system?

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fuck twitch
why do these idiots watch other people play videogames live? Why don't they just fucking play the games themselves? These people need to be shot

>>385454082
I am an old man and have no competitive drive anymore.

Not to defend streamers, but...

>The two of them had been hounding the streamer and killed him multiple times
>In a game in which each match consists of a HUNDRED people
>All of those HUNDRED people scatter all around the map upon leaving the aircraft
>These two guys killed the streamer several times in a row, fairly early on in each of the matches

Definitely not checking the stream to find him. Nope, completely legit. A simple coincidence.

>>385454082
>banning snipers
>shoot someone
>get banned
>on a competitive shooter
That's why I don't waste money on shitty twitch bait games.

>>385454341
Nope

>>385454082
>why do these idiots watch other people play videogames live? Why don't they just fucking play the games themselves? These people need to be shot

I sometimes watch Twitch, for games I have a slight interest in but don't want to play. If I start a game I usually have to put over a hundred hours into it. I can't do that for every game.

Then there's other games that have more options in play style and it's interesting to see which choices other players make.

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>>385450643
>>385453834

Yes. Stop making this thread here. We already have a megathread for civil discussion of this matter on our official subreddit.

Direct yourselves to /r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS to continue this discussion with proper moderation. We will not tolerate continued discussion of this subject on unmoderated sites.

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this game is way too anime

and now, they care about eceleb shit. i play this game and have never sat through a stream nor cared about any ecelebs. i thought you naysayers were supposed to be like me. what happened?

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check out this guy's TACTICS. lagged near the end, so it look a little sped up. game can't handle two vehicles, i guess
>8.8/10 would die like that again

>>385453390
>Boxxymaid2
Eight and a half years ago. Also I didn't think anyone bothered brute forcing custom trips anymore since there are barely any tripfags left these days.

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>>385450746

>>385455082
lol, this looks like shit compared to dayz

>play the game
>get banned for doing so
Nice game you have there playerunknown

>>385455082
>this is what people are hyping up
Jesus

how the fuck do you even get into the same game as the streamer?

Never play any game with matchmaking instead of a server browser.

Your constant threads on this will stop nothing. The world will forget in a day and the game will continue to sell millions.

>>385455608
You're almost guaranteed to have some faggot streaming the game in every match. The game is all over twitch.

>>385455490
>Playing games on PC.
Enjoy your shit community.

>>385453096
Not soon enough, that's for sure.
Actually, we need a serial killer to go after their followers too.
>Too many of them
Then we'll develop a lethal brown note to broadcast on the streams. Sure there will be a lot of collateral damage, but it'll be worth it.

>>385453331
It wasn't funny the first time you posted it stop

>>385453119
Well it's a powerful weapon, so it get's spawned in a crate.. What's wrong about that?

>>385455879
well, it's better than communities dying on console because a console will always end up obselete; even worse -- nintendo online fanbase and how nintendo always kills their online prematurely

>>385452909
that post is so autistic i feel the need to make fun of it 40 minutes later

>>385455082
This is the power of twitch. People flock to this trash because it's the Twitch's FOTM.
Jesus.

>>385455135
I barely post anyway.

>>385454341
>I literally cannot read: the post
The guy in the OP wasn't one of those two players.

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i have been averaging 45-50fps after the new update. that is A LOT MORE than almost all console games -- almost double, even. an EARLY ACCESS GAME runs better than almost all console games. every console developer is a complete fucking hack

>play game
>get banned
S-sorry based streaming overlords. Won't let it happen again

>>385456554
It is an incredibly ugly game, so I really wouldn't consider that an accomplishment

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>>385455559
don't be so tsun. i know you want to play it

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>>385456687
thanks for agreeing that an EARLY ACCESS GAME runs better thatn ALMOST ALL CURRENT-GEN console games

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>>385450746
Its a good feeling

>>385456719
It's nice to know that games in 2017 are pure quality

I love buying early access!

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>>385456958
better than everything on console excpet bloodborne and EDF 4.1 -- which actually run worse than this EARLY ACCESS game

>>385456554
fucking kek
*in halo guy voice* THREAD STOPPER
because it's always shit eating console women who shit up threads

>>385450746

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what do you think of her, /v/?

>>385457571

nude mod when?

>>385456719
I concede it's fun to watch DrDisrespct playing it, because the overall concept is really good. But this one particular execution is abysmal. DayZ had a better gameplay. It feels like a step back.

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>>385457657
tank top or long sleeve? i want both striped shirts, but i always draw something else from the crates

>>385454082
I sometimes listen to streams as background noise.

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>>385457861
I'm more into the Shirt

>mfw I can't fucking get the grey tank top with dog tags

>>385454573
>We will not tolerate continued discussion of this subject on unmoderated sites.
How about you kys

>>385450643
Shit like this is why you shouldn't talk in online games.

>>385457117
that looks so fucking bad
the gameplay, not the game itself
this is probably just a rare moment like these terrible DaS hitbox webms but man, delete that webm when you want to defend the game

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>>385450746
>mfw /v/ was all defending pubg and claiming it as the best game ever made

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>>385450643
It is you who made the devs become like this.
>>385450643
Are you still able to refund if you're banned for something this stupid?

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>>385450746

>>385454082
I sometimes watch tournaments and people who play competitive games, they have to be much better than me and on the leader-boards, obviously to learn something.
But I never understood watching "entertainers" I assume its just kids bellow 12 that watch that.

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>>385454341
So, you're trying to play a competitive game about hiding and being sneaky, and then proceed to publicly stream your footage live to the whole internet

It's like shagging a nag with the windows open, if someone sees you it's your fault

If you stream you have to accept that vouyerism is part of the game and it's ridicolous to ban people for other people errors

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>someone on friends ist is now playing PUBG
>delete them
feels good

>>385453390
Fuck you now I have to go fap

>>385450643
>I was on a Rust RP server, (basically means that it isn't Kill on Sight and more people are likely to group up)
> End up founding a town with like 5 other people
> Name it "Springfield"
> Week later, there's about 30 people living in the town, each with their own house, even specialised stores and even a sheriff, really comfy
> Then a Youtuber called psisyndicate joins the server, builds a massive eye sore base with his hangers on(kinda against the rules but got away with it) overlooking the town
> Starts shooting people and attacking their houses, acting like a cunt, eventually causes people to quit and the town to disband
> Nothing happens because he's bringing publicity and attention to the server

Fucking hate youtubers and streamers

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/QC0IWRyJWP4

>tell everyone where you are
>get killed
>get them banned because they're not allowed to know where you are

what the actual fuck

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>>385450746
I have no sympathy for anything who buys this game or gets banned

>>385450746
>>385450989
>>385456554
>>385456886
>>385456324
>>385456189
Japan is in a death spiral, their work ethic is still completely mindless and punishing for no good reason, which has lead to mobile shit becoming the number one source of entertainment. There's a reason the Switch is actually doing well over there, nobody has the space or the time for a real console anymore, and owning a computer is a complete fantasy.

Ideally, we'd see lots of public naming and shaming of scumbag companies going after western shekels. But once again, Japan has beaten that shit to the punch with years of globalist propaganda shows, and a completely artificial Korean boom created by big TV studios who would rather buy the rights to a dogshit K-drama for 2 cents instead of producing their own. Young people in Japan right now are basically just Korea 2.0, and Korea is vehemently anti-gaming, anti-porn, and anti-male.

>>385456958
>tfw almost fell for the 2017 was a good year for vidya meme
Feels good not being a cuck.

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>>385450643
Haha nice try OP, but I have been told streaming is living the dream!

>>385461571
god what a faggot

>>385450643
>tfw can't refund it any more

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>>385460771

Don't you know? Streamers get to have their cake, and eat it too.

All this stupid "banning stream snipers" nonsense does is empower streamers even further ( who are already powerful and influential, thanks to their leigons of followers ).

I think watching someone's stream to get an unfair advantage is lame, but c'mon. How can you reliably determine who is stream sniping and who merely kills the streamer by sheer coincidence?

You can't risk banning innocent players just to appease big-name streamers. Stream sniping is just a fact of life. These people are already raking in money hand-over-fist from streaming anyways, I think it's a natural trade-off that people who are famous and successful would be targeted.

TL;DR this new system is shit and hurts the community overall

>>385450643
>PUBG

consider killing yourself

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>>385450746
millennial cucks were a mistake

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>>385453119
>BETTER BUY THOSE CRATES GOY

>>385460791
I do the same.

And nothing of value was lost.

>>385461836
>enjoy something
>make it your job
>don't enjoy it anymore
>have no alternatives

>>385462338
buzzwords were a mistake

>>385461882
Me or him?

>>385462452
Exactly why I always know anybody envious of streamers/YouTubers is underage or uneducated with no fallback plan. Fuck that shit.

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>>385450746

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>>385450643
>guys look at me
>get killed live
>what the fuck stop looking at me you're making me look bad

reminds me of stgggs sniping gurl gamers

>>385462503
obviously the youtube kid.
I'm always fine with griefing some twats if done right, but annoying the shit out of some people just minding their own buisness is a low hit
I mean, one should always know when to stop

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>When a popular streamer loads up a f2p game and is immediately swamped with free goodies from the developers

>>385450643
>deliberately showing your hand and getting mad when you lose
At least put a fucking delay on your stream for fuck's sake.
I hate streamer cancer so much. EA games, especially the devs, are a blight on the PC community. Anyone who supports either of these things should chug a bottle of Drano

>>385453119
lol wtf you have to buy weapons too? i was thinking of buying this game but this is just terrible. why does /v/ even like this game?

>>385454573
and who the fuck be you? kys faggot.

>>385462338
>Calling other people a mistake
>Karenposter

>>385461571
jesus I cant finish the video this guy is the example of an entitled cunt.

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>>385462404
>>385462938
I wanted to make some crack about you guys having no fucking clue what you're talking about but it's so obvious I actually feel a bit bad so I'm just going to tell you that "crate" in this case means the boxes that get randomly airdroped in a match.

>>385450643
Streamers get special priviledge in many games and several devs of games such as DBD have said they exclusively listen to streamers and basically design the games around them. Considering most of these streamers drop games after, at most, 2 months, this means lots of games just end up husks where the streamers feast on the game for a month and then leave a dead carcass no one wants.

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>>385450830
So it's just like Overwatch?

>>385450746
I bought subnautica and it was very worth it, senpai.

>>385459647
mad cuz bad

>>385463856
uhh cuck

>>385456506
The devs got the tools to see what was going on. No reason to trust some nobody who got banned.

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>>385463925

>>385463723
team games were a mistake

>>385463945
Appeal to authority fallacy.

>>385453519
It's pretty shit. I don't want to be running after crates to use every new weapon.

>>385461787
>nobody replies to this post
That's how you know weebs lost.

See you in the Olympics, cucks.

>>385464037
More like Solo Queue was a mistake
Team games are fine if you have an actual team full of like minded players who already know how to cooperate. Expecting random faceless strangers to work together in a very specific manner and punishing them for not doing so is pretty retarded.

>waaah nobody replied to my post
Thats how you know nobody took your bait. Better luck next time

>>385464341
Not putting your draconian rules in bold letters before a player buys a game was the mistake. This is why more consumer protection laws are needed. Overwatch is borderline a bait and switch game/

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>killing someone who is openly advertising their position is a ban
>even if you weren't watching their gay stream you still get banned because they were paid by the developers to shill the game and you made them look bad

>>385464573
And it's not even le minorities or women like /v/ memes. It's precious shill streamers.

Twitch has a stream delay, and you can alter it. When I watched hearthstone for some ungodly reason years back, it was common for pro-players to put their streamers on several minute delays so people could not snipe their plays. If a streamer is getting sniped, it is his fault for not upping his delay to minutes instead of the default 10-30 seconds.

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>>385464573
Yup. Next time you see a cucklet saying that good games are still being released. Show them this thread.

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>>385450746
Only ever bought Darkest Dungeon like a week before its release because it was cheaper. I thought it was a good purchase.

>>385465005
>Expecting quality from nintenbro games

>>385465005
>Games I don't like are automatically shovelware.


Also countless games released this year that are perfectly good missing.

You need a better bait image.

>>385465146
This isn't just Nintendo dude, though I will agree they're releasing some dogshit this year (There's a reason /v/ shit on them at every opportunity, especially after the Switch bombed within 4 months of release) but the rest of the year has been just as bad.

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>>385450746

Learned my lesson with DayZ. I wanted to get Star Citizen and Dayz and I was getting a little hype about PU but I've learned not to buy into this early access bullshit.

Especially when there is a shitshow like yogcast.

>>385465280
lol I understand how 2017 is a terrible year for vidya. The only games I'm really looking forward to are Wolfenstein and Metro.

>>385454082
>show off game to world
>surprised when people find you and kill you
WOOOOOOOOOW

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>>385465295
>Star Citizen

>>385465418
Glad at least one of us isn't a brainwashed normie cuck who falls for literal scams like MEA and Horizon. Gaming died after 2007, we all pretty much established that.

>>385465162
Yeah I love early access and open world games :DDD

>>385465295

Also, I meant Divinity 2 not DayZ (because I actually wasted money on DayZ)

>>385463945
They really don't though. Stream sniping bans are basically unenforceable, because there's no way to prove it was a legit stream snipe. If all a streamer has to do is REEEE at the devs because they got killed to get you banned, that's fucked.

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>>385463945
How the fuck do you check if someone's watching a stream outside of some spyware bullshit

>>385450643
deserved a perma ban desu

it might be hard to prove but if youre a high caliber player and dying to the same guy over and over again at weird angles it cant be coincidence

and yeah sure maybe he wasnt stream sniping but you directly fuck with a games marketing and a streamer's work if youre shitting on the famous streamer, if you make him look bad and no longer entertaining he loses money and viewers if he loses viewers that makes people less likely to follow the scene or play the game which in turn affects the company

people who intentionally go after famous streamers are fucking scum

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Don't fall for it

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>>385450746

>>385465810
>>385465707
>>385465462
>Justifying cheating because it's easy.
I guess beta males will never be able to self improve.

>>385465817
>and no longer entertaining
i think stream sniping is very entertaining.

>>385465817
t. summit1g

>>385465940
>Can't beat cheaters

Nah man

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>>385450746
I bought my first early access game a week ago.

Yesterday the game was removed from the Steam store.

Luckily I got a refund for it approved yesterday as soon I saw the news.

>>385463945
>I just love slurping on early access dev cock! Pls help these poor millionaires!
Anti-consumerism at its finest.

>>385465940
how is it cheating?

its the streamers fault for showing the game before he is on the ground and not covering his map the entire time

>>385465817
>it might be hard to prove but if youre a high caliber player and dying to the same guy over and over again at weird angles it cant be coincidence
Isn't dying at weird angles six seconds after you get to cover how this game works?

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>>385450746

>>385466080
>he needed a leg up on his opponent
I'd take a good fight over a W any day you little bitch.

Good god I thought /v/ hated casuals, and now they justify being semi retarded at video games?
For fucking shame.

>>385465707
>>385465810
The got this shit and maybe more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0lhKy3GR6o

If used right I'm sure it could be used to spot a streamsniper

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>>385450746
Only game I've ever bought on early access was Starbound. Never making that mistake again.

>>385465650
>>385465418
And I love how the retarded nugamers aren't even going to bother to debate us. Just goes to show the true "strength" of the meme that this year was good in any respect.

RIP vidya 1958-2007

>>385465940
>cheating
unless they're using an aimbot or something it's completely fair. if you don't want to die maybe you shouldn't broadcast exactly where you are at all times.

>>385465940
Why does the streamer not take precautions? Such as

I don't know

changing his stream delay to make stream sniping not a thing. Oh, but that would make it harder for him to do le funny things with his chat, so instead we'll just ban legit players so as to not inconvenience glorious streamer


>customers get banned and treated like second class citizens by devs
>Streamers, many of which play on free copies, get treated like celebrities

Streamers get to have their cake and eat it too.

>>385466207
>septicfalcon
>literally shit bird
lol

>>385454082
>Why don't they just fucking play the games themselves?
Because I'm a poorfag. I haven't played vidya since the PS2

>>385465650
>Resi7
>Yakuza0
>Hollow Knight
>Persona 5
>Prey

Loads more that aren't in genres I play much.
You should really try doing things that make you happy and talking about things you like instead of talking about things you hate and trying to make other people feel worse.

Only person you are hurting is yourself.

>>385466001
I didn't even pay for the game. Legitimately banned people going "i dindu nuffin" is nothing new

>>385466403
>dude things have been shitty before so why don't you accept it?!
Nice fallacy, anon.

>>385466245
>>385466237
>If you're playing a comp game with shitty anti cheat it's completely fair
Garbage

>>385466487
An anticheat isn't going to stop stream sniping because stream sniping isn't cheating.

>>385466403
Except the ban isn't legitimate.

Game isn't that old. I'd do a charge back on my card if I was that player, assuming steam wouldn't refund it.

>>385466237
it is the same as last weeks hullabaloo about teamkilling. Maybe people shouldn't play with randoms if they dont want to be teamkilled. devs are ban happy as shit really

>>385466403
Not an argument. Siding with the devs and cuckstreamers at this point is mindboggling. Banning customers because popular players in your game bitch after every death is retarded.

>>385457828
that's the guy that said 'I'll roundhouse kick you' and the dev totally spazzed out claiming 'muh violence triggers' when his game is literally about killing people

>>385466487
It's more like not wearing a seatbelt and getting upset when you're thrown from the car. Twitch has a stream delay and said streamer can set his delay much higher so that you cannot stream snipe them.

>>385463723
>>385464037
>>385464341
Its was actually Meta, Meta was a mistake. People act like they need to pick heroes around the highest skill level when they can barely aim to begin with and have no idea why the pros pick what they pick when they pick it.

>>385466575
There's no way to do chargebacks with individual games on steam without getting you entire account banned.

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>>385450746

>>385466569
Prove it

>>385466597
Teamkilling is different, these games are free for alls where you're supposed to kill each other.

>>385466396
>trying to make other people feel worse.
That's literally our intention when we drop redpills on your favorite early access open world trash. We want newfags to feel absolutely fucking retarded for eating literal dogshit
Also
>only 5 (FIVE) games
kek
Come back to us your nugamer library isn't as devoid of quality

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>>385450643
>play video games for a living
>make an exorbitant amount of money doing so
>still so bootybothered after your avatar dies you throw a shitfit and cry after every single death
Streamers are literal manchildren and cucks. Reminder that scummit still pays his wife a fuckton of money each month to answer emails and find Tyrone on Tinder.

>>385466707
The burden is on you
You have to prove that he stream sniped and that stream sniping is cheating when the streamer is in control of setting his delay or just not streaming in the first place.

>>385466707
the streamer was openly broadcasting where he was
streaming sites have options like delays to prevent stream sniping
whether or not the guy who killed him was stream sniping doesn't matter because it was 100% the fault of the streamer

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>>385466223
>starbound
>removed heat system
>removed old hunger bar
>replaced with EPPs that just make you immune
>hunger bar is barely noticeable
WHAT A THRILL

>>385459069
>This thread was just made like 10 minutes ago
>it died because nobody cares
>Let make it again and again
>Some calls you out
>ITS A CONSPIRACY

>>385466707
Can you actually not read or are you just being retarded?

>>385466207
There's no way to use that tool to accurately determine if the person who killed you was watching your stream or just got lucky.

>>385450643
JUST PLAY THE DAMN ARMA 3 MOD YOU DUMB FUCKING CHILD

>>385466676
If a dev does not advertise a game specifically as an esport game where you are expected to follow le meta, then I consider that false advertising. Overwatch is a good example of a bait and switch game

>in beta both open and closed and in advertisements the game was portrayed as very casual and allowed players to have fun comps like 6 man rein teams and other shoot the shit casual fun
>within 3 months all of this is taken away and the game is tossed into ESPOOOOOORTS OR LEAVE and people who want to play as they did when the game released get banned for following the written rules.

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>>385466728
>>385465418
>>385465650
>pic related is considered one of the better games to be released this year
Wew lad can't wait to play a $20 romhack!

>>385466669
>>385466537
>>385466610
>What is a delay.
>Being so trash you devote a second monitor to my 10k viewer stream because you're so shit at video games you couldn't possibly beat me in a fair fight.
>Would most likely still lose even with an advantage because you're a nobody.

>>385465997
Wut game

>>385466931
>can't tell the difference between a romhack and a new game

>>385466964
>second monitor
it's called alt tab retard

>>385466964
Yes, what is a delay, anon. Why do these streamers not use the delay instead of trying to muscle devs to ban players?

It's so strange. /v/ tells me only SJWs ruin games but here's another example of some esport mother fucker ruining the games for everyone.

>>385453331
>ill be lucky if i get 2-4 years
Laughed so hard i sharted courtney love

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>>385461787
>Japan has beaten that shit to the punch with years of globalist propaganda shows

I'm not sure if it's the same thing, but I've noticed something similar.

>Japan makes thing
>the west likes it
>Japan makes anime with rainbow colored characters
>western children who grew up now dye their hair in varying unnatural colors
>Japan makes anime with girl (male) characters
>the west is trying to push for trans rights

Japan is planning on taking down the west with them. Revenge for Nagasaki.

>>385467076
>>385467086
>THIS mad
I'm better than you in the game and at life.
Think about it.

>>385466964
Be careful, that's some advanced b8

>>385466728
But you aren't actually making other people feel worse. You are just making yourself more bitter.

Maybe I'm just getting too old for this place, maybe this place really is just getting worse, but people like you are really embarrassing.

>>385466792
They have banned 25,000 cheaters over three months or something. Did you ask for proof for every single one of them as well?
>>385466815
I get that it comes with the territory of streaming. Personally I don't mind the developers banning people for being dicks.
>>385466858
Clarify
>>385466871
Probably not across one game. But if a player kills a streamer and drops out of the match instantly to join his match again it could be used as evidence.

>>385467192
Why won't you address my point on stream delays, faggot?

>>385467134
jokes on you i don't even play this game
the money i didn't spend on these shitty meme games was spent donating to stream snipers

>>385466964
There is literally zero evidence of stream sniping besides those two faggot streamers yelling it because they died in an online videogame. You can keep screaming it but just know that summit isn't going to let you suck him off no matter how delusional you get. Nice bait though, got me to reply.

>>385450643

>browsing reddit

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>>385466964
Son, I will have you know my second monitor is used exclusively for shitposting and jerking off to hentai between rounds.

>>385466818
I know anon, I'm still mad as well, wish I could refund it or something.

>>385467275
daily reminder watching summits stream and not donating or subbing is literally piracy

>>385456362
I've jumped into an enemy's jeep as he tried to take off with it. Tried to angle my gun through the passenger seat but couldn't quite do it

>>385467192
>Clarify
If you can read the image OP posted or most of this thread you would understand why the ban is a joke and the triggered devs have banned a legitimate paying customer because he killed a high profile player once.

>>385467192
>Personally I don't mind the developers banning people for being dicks.
So it's fine to ban someone from a game they paid for not because they broke any rules but because you just don't like them.

Shit like this will eventually lead to tougher anti-consumer laws. It is not hard to argue that the devs friviously ban people to make them buy the game again on a new account and increase sales.

>>385450643
>play game while streaming
>get killed
>complain
So... um... what were they expecting? Should everyone just stand around and not play until the streamer leaves?

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>>385450746

>>385467371
>Something people put up for free is piracy if you don't give a donation.
Fuck off. I bet you throw money at every homeless street beggar who has a tambourine.

>>385467273
Sorry, I got swamped in (you)'s. Streamers don't like having delays, simple as that. If they can accurately spot streamsnipers with their tools I don't see why they wouldn't ban em'.

>>385467557
Literally what summit himself said. He once said those very words that you are basically pirating his stream by not giving him money when watching.

>>385467192
I'm not contesting those 25,000 bans. Stream sniping isn't eqatable to literal wall hacking. So this isn't an argument.

>>385467601
So, legitimate paying customers should be banned and punished because streamers do not want to use a tool given to them that would solve their issue? Please explain why streamers deserve to be special class citizens that get special priviledges?

Kill yourself.

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>>385453331
>open the newest japanese esport game. all new games are japanese and esports, nothing else survives in the market

>Japan
>PC gaming

I wish I had the version of this gif that's more epileptic, cause that's the only suitable imagine I can use for this.

>>385467601
Post some of these alleged tools they have that can magically differentiate between a "real" kill and stream sniping.

>>385463530
You know as well as anyone else that isn't what "crate only" implies nowadays.

>>385467607
>>385467371
Not surprising, streamers have mental illnesses. It explains why they have horrible friendships and relationships, i.e. >>385461836

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>>385467192
>This Post: YES YES SHOVE YOUR DEV DICK FARTHER UP MY ASS!
>MY GAPING HOLE IS BLINKING AT YOU DEV SENPAI!
>PLEASE! LET ME PAY YOU ANOTHER 29.99 + Tax + TIp!

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>>385450643
Everything I hear about this game makes it sound that the dev is a real shithead

>>385452909
Now this is autism.

>>385467393
I don't trust that redditor to not be lying. Apparently he already lied about some stuff.

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>>385467816

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>>385450746
Only once forced to buy Ark because of my friends.
Never again

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>>385450746

>>385467192
>But if a player kills a streamer and drops out of the match instantly to join his match again it could be used as evidence.
How is this even possible if matchmaking is randomized?
Even if it was, the onus is on the streamer to not broadcast his position or at least put on a delay on it. Not for the devs to ban people for "being dicks" because they took advantage of streamer's idiocy.

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>>385450746

>>385467885
Do you have any proof that the OP isn't credible?

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>>385450746

>>385467601
>If they can accurately spot streamsnipers with their tools I don't see why they wouldn't ban em'.
Not only do they not have the tools for that, but you're a fucking idiot for thinking that should be the case anyway. Nobody should give a fuck if they want a delay or not, the answer is there.

If they dont want to get dicked on because they're literally showing everybody where they are they can add a delay, if they dont want the delay to "engage with their viewers" they can harden the fuck up and deal with what comes with no delay. There is no third option, there should be no developer intervention unless its a Jay Owen situation where they're actively forcing people out of matches with blatant hacks.

>>385467134
you actually play this shit game and want to call someone else a casual? fucking kill yourself sport

>>385467885
>Apparently he already lied about some stuff.
Really accurate info here, my man, nice job.

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>>385467861
It's the truth. Look at what they have scheduled for 2020 and try say that to me again.

>>385450746
There are good early access games. Just not multiplayer open field killing ones like h1z1.

>>385468181
ecksdee man

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>>385467601
>Streamers don't like having delays, simple as that
Too fucking bad. Streamers have nobody to blame but themselves if they willfully choose to broadcast their position without a delay. The devs don't have the tools to accurately determine if someone is stream sniping and banning people for killing streamers who go out of their way to expose themselves is mindblowingly retarded.

>>385467885
>Apparently he already lied about some stuff.
>some stuff.
wtf i love poorly developed "early access" shit now

>>385466236
>Gaming died after 07
>GFC happened shortly after
Maybe there's a pattern here...

>>385450746
it must suck to not have a job and disposable income

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>>385461571
>Literally takes the time to mention his sponsors and Top donator

What a faggot.

>>385466682
Not the same anon, but what do you mean?

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>>385450746
>>385468339

>>385450643
Stream snipers deserve their bans, they're harming the company and the streamer. Streamers make their livelihood streaming games and keeping their followers watching, having some faggot with no life stream sniping you is not a joke, you are affect these people's ability to pay their bills.

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How can you realistically stream snipe in PUBG anyway? You get placed into a random match when you click ready and there's no way to enter a specific match with someone unless you put them in your squad. You always start in the waiting area and you can't see the names of the people in that waiting area.

>>385468453
Same with any service, a chargeback will lead to a ban. You're literally stealing the money back illegally while still owning the product, so they just take your product away because they're in their rights to do so.

Sony does it, Microsoft probably does it, Riot does it and Valve does it.

>>385468576
I sometimes cue up with friends in solo so we can kill eachother. Obviously timing it right is harder when watching a stream but it's certainly possible.

Also it can be a heat of the moment thing if they see the streamer kill someone in their match.

>>385467716
Once again, making yourself look like a fucking moron for not having any idea what you're talking about in context.

>>385468339
I've been getting interviews more and more frequently so that must count for something.

>>385468661
Ah, ok. That makes sense. Was thinking it was more like if you wanted to get a refund for the game but Steam wouldn't let you, so then you resort to that.

>>385468576
You're spot on with that, honestly. H1Z1 had a massive problem with it that went away when they removed the ideas of joining servers manually.

Testing it with friends, we only had around a 40% success rate when searching for a squad match as two completely different squads of 4 searching at the same time. That was on OC, one of the smaller servers.

If these streamers would actually hide their display when they hit search, they'd never have a problem with stream snipers.

plague fest is still going apparently with 40 players

starting to bring back memories when i used to get drunk as fuck and play zombie mod.

tempted to install CS:S again now

>>385468661
> I'd like to return this product
> lolno refunds can be denied for any reason
> I guess I will exercise my consumer rights and make a chargeback then
A chargeback is not instantaneous. There's a due process where both parties provide evidence of wrongdoing and in the end a financial institution decides who is in the right.
If you win a chargeback it means the merchant was proven to be in the wrong.

>>385468560
Fuck off. Next you're going to be demanding people lose to them on purpose because It makes them look bad and it hurts their ability to pay their bills.

Fuck you, fuck streamers. If they can't handle someone coming in and pushing in their shit, they don't deserve their viewers.

>>385461787
>Switch is succesful
kek.

Nintendo understocking as usual doesn't mean succesful, they did the same shit with the Wii U and everyone knows how hard that shit flopped.

>>385468857
Anybody who wants to get a refund on the game can when it comes out of early access, if they keep this shit up im probably going to do the same. Its one thing to ban players for doing shit that negatively impacts other players, but running to the aid of streamers who in all honestly should never take the game seriously as they're doing it as an entertainment job and are actively putting themselves at risk of stream snipers willingly and banning any sort of team killing regardless of circumstance is just retarded.

>>385468990
First of all: Steam/Valve doesnt give a fuck about your consumer rights. More than five countries fair trade and consumer protection sectors are suing them currently for that shit, and they'll probably just pay out a fine and never change anything.

Secpndly: Chargebacks are normally made with the sentence "I didnt authorize this payment undo it", which disregards any idea of there being a due process. Im not sure what the stance on these payment disputes you're talking about are, but with Valve again they dont give a fuck about your rights and they dont have to, thats what happens when you buy digital items.

>specifically eschew a delay so any random nigger can snipe you
>get mad when you're sniped
why can't more streamers be like the ones who actually have fun with stream snipers? it's literally interacting with your viewers directly and if you stay cool with it they'll stop sneaking and start doing fun shit instead

>>385469114
Note how I only said it was successful in Japan. I'm aware of its poor performance in the rest of the world.

>>385464240

beats the piss out of land next to a couple dudes and having one grab a power weapon from a rancid shack

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>>385450746
I bought KF2

never again

>>385469585
That have happened since day one though. I just want more weapons to play with.

>>385469758

the game needs more low-tech weapons. i'd be cool with them putting in 30-30 caliber guns that have VSS tier bullet drop but decent damage. its just so tiresome dropping into a game and immediately escalating to ARs

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>>385469934
What is there even to add that wont be incredibly hard to balance like the Tommy Gun?

Why is stream sniping even bad again? No one is forcing the retard to stream a game where good hiding spots are valuable. What's next, streaming card games and getting mad when you lose?

>>385470296
>Why is stream sniping even bad again?
>Why is piracy even bad again?
There you go

>>385470296
HOW DID THEY KNOW

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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>>385450643
>Go to a sandwich making contest sponsored by Subway® Sandwich Shoppes.
>One guy who's wearing all Subway® Sandwich Shoppes gear is being streamed online.
>Guy in competition decides to add Hickory Smoked Bacon to his piece as a finishing touch.
>Judges love it.
>The Subaway® Sponsored guy screams and cries that the guy who won only won because he knew from the stream that Hickory Smoked Bacon was the only thing that could put another sandwich over the top.
>Subway® Sandwich Shoppes ban the guy who won from the competition to keep their Sponsored guy looking good,

This is what will continue to happen with all the Flavor of the Month games. I'm waiting for the network shows to start popping up on Fox, NBC, and ABC. Programming blocks of streamers that are kid friendly so parents can continue to let the screen baby sit their little shits while they go out spending their fucking money.

>>385470363
why is piracy bad?

>>385463723

>when your game balance is that terrible that you start banning people for literally just playing your game

>>385470363
>what is a false equivalence

>>385470489
>>385470646
it's called bait and this thread is full of it

>>385470296

stream sniping is bad for the devs because if streamers arent happy they stop playing and if they stop playing you don't get free advertising

>>385470692
merely pretending xD

>>385470296
Because the guy they paid $50,000 to play their game on youtube wont be as entertaining as usual and he might bad mouth their game, thus costing them sales.

>>385470646
>>385470489
>why is shitposting bad?

>>385470363
Well, why? Keep in mind piracy is often the only way to obtain old games. And when you can buy them, the devs don't see a cent. Not to mention DRM that can brick games when the servers go down.

>>385470296
>What's next, streaming card games and getting mad when you lose?
Thats been a thing for years.

>>385470791
>what is a false equivalence

>>385470797
The getting mad part too?

>>385470797
People don't get banned from online card games for beating streamers in ranked. Or at least I hope they don't.

Thats retarded. Big baby should just suck it up and take the loss. Whether he was killed because he was streaming or not. Faggot should get good then and expect people to show up on his ass.

>>385467859
Sauce?

>>385470887
One of the most viewed players straight up quit the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSlNAaDXdzc

>>385471016

if you don't like it make your own videogame, cause this shit isn't changing anytime soon.

>>385471005
https://e-hentai.org/s/ad3e568ec5/1092679-1
Enjoy

>>385469438
>More than five countries fair trade and consumer protection sectors are suing them currently for that shit, and they'll probably just pay out a fine and never change anything.
Actually anon, they can't fight all of that. Eventually they will be forced to comply. Otherwise we'd never have refunds.

>>385470778
i think stream sniping is very entertaining.
>he might bad mouth their game
That's the streamer's fault, not the sniper
Unless you're saying streamers should never lose because it makes them unhappy like these dudes >>385468560 >>385470707

>>385471218
You're a shitty person.

>>385471218
you bastard

>>385470921
Nope, Blizzard doesnt give a fuck.

>>385471201
>criticize game or dev for any reason
>hurr if you don't like it make your own

not an argument

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The stream phenomenon has never grabbed me. As far as I can tell the only people who consume twitch streams and the like are extreme betas/tweens who combine having very poor videogame skills with having no real interests outside of their videogames, so they desperately try to turn popular streams into some kind of soap opera so they can gossip over extremely inane moments and events with similar retards and feel like they're part of a sort of in crowd.

>>385462775
Isn't that what got him banned?

>>385471021
Shit, you'd assume card games would be the last thing you want to stream if you don't want to lose.

>>385471343
Not only Blizzard
I've never heard of someone getting banned for stream sniping in a card game. Imagine if the streamers playing online poker demanded bans from the company running the online poker.

So now streamers are untouchable because they can claim they were being watched by an opponent.

>>385471272
You underestimate how small the consumer affairs portions of governments are, and how much money Valve has. Steam "Refunds" were made to make Valve look better in the eyes of the public, not due to the lawsuits.

>>385471493
if you don't like it make your own videogame, cause this shit isn't changing anytime soon.

>i didn't Cheat I SWEAR
HAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAA

>>385471361

thats not what i was saying at all. you simply read 'make your own game' then filled in the blanks with what you wanted to read.

Im saying that the majority of gamers are ok with the direction were headed in so if you want things to change you're going to have to do it yourself.

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>>385471529
>>385471516
>beating a streamer in video games is now considered cheating

>>385468847
I can't be bothered to learn about shit games.

>>385471201
>present something to the public.
>They call it out for being shoddy and not up to the competition.
>Tell the public they're wrong, and if they know so much, they should go make their OWN thing!

This is what children and immature people do. Do you think every successful author just said "well if you don't like it, go write your own book!" No. They took criticism and fixed it.

For fuck sake, Terry Brooks, the fucking tap water of teen-fantasy, wrote the entire first draft of The Elfstones of Shannara, was told it was shit, and he went and rewrote that from a big stinking turd into something passable, like a bowl of rice crispies. Ya know, you'd rather have some god damn frosted flakes or something better, but you're a fucking teen, you don't really know what a better cereal is yet, so it seems good.

If you're producing somethign creative and interactive for public consumption, you have to take criticisms and build from that. You fucking mongloid.

>>385471529
>using public information to win matches is cheating

>>385470778
Soon there will be paying a team to stream staged multiplayer sessions. The "opponents" will purposely play poorly when near the streamer.

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>>385450746

>>385471580
>thats not what i was saying at all.

That's literally what you are saying. "if you don't like it, make your own". It's a deflection against any and all criticism of games or their devs.

>Im saying that the majority of gamers are ok with the direction were headed in
Says who? You're implying the majority of gamers are even aware of this shit. Show me the majority of gamers want stream snipers to be banned and for streamers to have special privilages regarding not being killed in multiplayer games they stream.

>>385471667

my favorite part about this is how i was replying to a MADE UP future scenario of what gaming will be like, and then i reply that if you want things to change, you should actually do something other than bitch online. then because all of you immediately equate the phrase "make your own game" to the classic defense force reply you immediately stop reading everything else i say in favor of what you THINK i said.

>>385466676
Meta didn't exist before the internet. So the internet killed it. Or what little of it that did exist was slow as balls so people had to learn games a hell of a lot better.

>>385471906
>It's a deflection against any and all criticism of games or their devs.

its not a deflection at all you stupid fuck. im saying that the things about the gaming industry that suck are NOT GOING TO CHAGE unless people start doing something about it. im not defending shitty game design/practices.

Meanwhile, in EVE Online, stream sniping is going strong, and is actively encouraged by the developers.

When did gamers lose their backbone?

>>385471529
Got any evidence to back up the claims that he did?

>>385472023

but eve gets popular because of backstabby shit like that. also don't talk about eve devs and backbone like you know what you're even talking about.

>>385471875
>Soon there will be paying a team to stream staged multiplayer sessions. The "opponents" will purposely play poorly when near the streamer.
Remember the Battlefield 1 EA Gameplay? Thats pretty much exactly what you're describing. We were told to choke infont of Wiz, Snoop and Zac Efron.

You'd be surprised how much attention having a "popular content creator" or "Celebrity" perform well in a game gives.

>>385472017
"if you don't like it make your own videogame" is literally a deflection against criticism of a videogame you dumb fuck. You are literally defending shitty game design practices, don't try to backpeddal now and pretend you were being misinterpreted.

>>385472053
>I SWEAR I'M NOT A CHEATER
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>385472436

so are you saying you shouldn't try to fix whats wrong with the industry? that the world should just bow to your minority opinions because YOU don't like whats happening to YOUR hobby?

how about you get off your ass and do something productive and be the change you want to see.

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>>385472520
>didnt cheat
>LOL U CHEAT
Are you retarded?

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>>385472520
>I SWEAR YOU ARE A CHEATER
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

reddit spacing

*inhales deeply*

reddit spacing

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>385471640
But you can be bothered to spaz out like a retard about something you have no clue about?

>>385463723
Guess he should not suck so much

>>385472625
"make your own video game if you don't like it" is not a viable solution to bad trends in the industry, fuckhead. Neither is trying to label it an minority opinion in order to discredit it. Keep your ad populim nonsense to yourself.

how about you stop deflecting instead of sitting on your ass and accusing people of making valid criticisms of notbeing productive.

>>385471929
>my favorite part about this is how i was replying to a MADE UP future scenario of what gaming will be like

which was in reply to the current scenario of banning people for beating streamers in a game and treating streamers as a protected class of gamers who don't like to lose and need the game rules to accommodate them.

>then because all of you immediately equate the phrase "make your own game" to the classic defense force reply
Because that's exactly what it is.

>ou immediately stop reading everything else i say
You didn't say anything else substantial. Your entire point can be summed up as don't like it? make your own.

>in favor of what you THINK i said.
Which is actually what you said.

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>>385467697
This is all I can provide.

>stream sniping

That term just makes me cringe for some reason

>>385473439
It's because you realized you are not on reddit, where you need to return.

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>>385450746

the reply in this thread which comes before all the others is the highest in quality

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>>385456217
>Dying communities.
And yet, I can point to many communities on various consoles that are still around 10 years later.

Why though? I can't say. What sort of autism do you have where you need to play the same game for over 1-2 years?

>>385473493
>being disgusted by streamfaggot culture is reddit

nah

>>385473013
It takes way less effort, so yes.