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Dragon Quest XI confirmed for western localization. With a L

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Dragon Quest XI confirmed for western localization. With a Late 2018 release date.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/7/28/16055802/dragon-quest-11-release-date-north-america-europe-square-enix
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first for alena is best
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DQ trash series with terrible OST's for such a long running franchise, literally sells because of DB faces
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Ashlynn muh waifu.
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>>385440175

Here's your reply. Thanks for bumping the thread.
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>late 2018 release date
Pretty standard. Usually takes about 12 months for them to destroy the translation.
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>Dragon Quest XI
>Monster Hunter World
>Ni No Kuni II
>Next Shin Megami Tensei
>Fire Emblem

2018 what a year.
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>>385440058
fuckers didn't export X so what makes you think this is anything other than a bullshit pr stunt they'll change their minds on later and not do it.
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>>385440595
XI doesn't require servers
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>>385440587
Doesn't say late, just 2018
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>>385440594
MHW is the only one I'm worried about because "Capcom", SMT will be my fucking jam though especially with them doubling down on Odin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDquW8CIi0&list=PLoL11u82FzOh1iwYAF1LEGSRL_kcHHCJI&index=34
When are we getting a DQ9-like game?
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>We never got X
It still hurts, just as bad as Sega's PSO2 promise.
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>>385440773
We did, it was called 10, it was bigger and better in every single way because your party members are so fleshed out it's almost like they were real people.
It's also Japan onry.
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>>385440773
My real hope is one day a port is made that supports online.
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>>385440806
Maybe someday Anon, maybe someday....

If XI sells an amazing amount when localized there's a chance they'll go with DQX localization, considering that FFXI and FFXIV also were localized due to global FF popularity.
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>>385440457
He's right. Look at all this midi shit.

Why can't they change that butthurt composer?
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>>385440595
Give up Nevereverfag, game over.
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>late 2018

noone will care for this shit then
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>>385440632
that's a retarded excuse.

horribly jewing companies that run mmo's find it EZ for server space worldwide. SE already has servers around the planet. not devoting a poofteenth of their fifty trillion gorrillion terabytes of 'lol everyone on the planet loves FF so lets make giant servers because obviously everyone will want to run multi widow and play 20 characters at a time' server space to DQ.
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>>385441104
Where does it say late fucktard.
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>>385440873
I mean AFTER XI.
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>>385441198
VII 3DS, VIII 3DS, Heroes 1, 2 and Builders all flopped in the west.

Sadly not releasing X on the west was a good decision.

Last game that actually did well here was IX.
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To anyone who ordered the PS4 version on Amazon, it appears the game is restricted in their system so they can't ship internationally. It seems pre-orders could be placed but they won't ship because of the restriction
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>>385441332
Maybe they'll make an IX remake for the Switch in 2020

It would be amazing tbqh.
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>>385440595

Yuji Horii himself announced it on his weekly Dragon Quest live feed. He even turned it into a skit where he was packing a suitcase and pretending to go on a world tour.

https://youtu.be/_187BByF2TM

>>385440773

Dragon Quest X was everything Dragon Quest IX should have been. They just didn't bring it to the west because of dumb internal politics in SquareEnix.

>>385440976

>the composer only writes MIDI shit RAAAWWWW!!!
You're a fucking idiot.
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Installing the game via FBI QR code. I get to to around 650-700 MB in before the download stops. This has happened consistently 4 times now.
Here's the error.

Failed to Install CDN Title.
Result code: 0xD8A0A048
Level: Permanent (27)
Summary: Invalid Sate (5)
Module: HTTP (40)
Desc: <unknown> (72)

What does this mean? I just wanna play my Grindan Simulator. Please help.
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>>385440980

>implying

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NoExportForYou/VideoGames

SE is KNOWN for making retarded nonsensical export decisions.

>that time they only had 150 k carts printed worldwide for a ds game.

>then refused to port other titles because the title that only had 150 k carts printed did not sell >500 K carts
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>>385441356
so they are holding hostage your copy because you're a filthy gaijin?
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>>385441348
Square has no one else but them selves to blame, DQ9 was the last time they tried marketing the games and they weren't even the ones promoting it.
Fucking hell they're is a company that was run by a man who was willing to waste tons of money trying to make your game popular in the west and they just said fuck it.
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>>385441348

>VII 3DS, VIII 3DS, Heroes 1, 2 and Builders all flopped in the west.
>release games with zero marketing and limited print runs
>they don't sell much
What a surprise. And they still sold comparable to your average JRPG without marketing like Disagea or SMT.
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DQX FUCKING WHEN

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
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>>385441617
It's no surprise DQ9 sold great despite "being bad"
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>>385441669

When we're about to get about 10 million signatures on a petition and then trick SquareEnix to actually acknowledging the petition exists.
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Which version will get brought over though? Square has to deal with both nintendo and sony after all
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>>385441642

it's the standard SE

>See the west hates DQ!!! they only like FF! FF titles sold 2 million copies overseas! This specific dq title we only printed 250 k copies of only sold 250 K copies! that proves they hate DQ, filthy foreign white devils HATE US so fuck them! no DQ for them ever!
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>>385440058
Yes we finally get the. Main Dragon Quest localized West!!!!!!!!!
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>>385440058
Oh boy I sure do LOVE waiting 6-8 months after the Jap release for localizations.
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>>385441870
All most likely, the final game has no cross compatibility for obvious reasons now.
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>>385441978
Better than waiting 4 years like with Dragon Quest VII for the 3DS.
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>>385441978

I've got so many games to play I wouldn't even be bothered. Though I know Nip, so I'll probably play it this year.
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>>385441978
Lol you are a spoiled asshole. You should have lived during the 90's and the 00's it would take 2-3 years total to wait for a game to be localized. 6-8 months is nothing.
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>>385441978

Try more like 12-16 months. But still, as long as it actually comes, I don't mind waiting. I'm more worried about them fucking up the translation or removing content. They always find some way to fuck up the localization of a DQ game. Be it removing party chat, changing the games UI, altering story for no reason or changing music. There's always something.
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>mfw it turns out they're only localizing the 3DS version
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NEVER
FUCKING
EVER

G
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How do I take a screenshot of my 3ds screen without having to upload to that nintendo social site?
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>>385442535
rosalina in luma if you dont mind the wait time, mode 3 ntr otherwise. NTR saves to root as Top and bot.
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>>385441104
Where does it say late? I'm expecting month 4.
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>>385442481

>YWN have OGREFU ever
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>>385441512
I'm sorry anon and I know this sucks but it literally works on my machine.
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>>385442191
The good old times seeing shit on a magazine or a website hoping for it waiting with no fucking guarantee to ever see it coming (shoutouts to atlus) , it's crazy how fast people got entitled to all they have now
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>>385442740
New 3DS or old? I'm on old
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>>385442481
>PS4 version
Have you not been keeping up with that port?
Japs are pissed.
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>>385442481
>wanting to play an mmo
Are we being ironic? Let me try
>Oh I love thicc women lol
how'd I do
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>>385442481

Or Theatrhythm
Or Monsters 1 + 2 + Joker 3
Or Slime no Mori Mori 3
Or 25th Anniversary Collection
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>>385440058
>Linking Polygon
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>>385441978
Dragon Quest 11 months
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>>385442885
Now you gotta add joker 3 pro too.
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>>385442798
What happened?
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>>385442885
>Slime no Mori Mori 3

It hurts.
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>>385442991
People saw how crazy Sony was on cross play, DQX has crossplay with all other versions but it requires a separate more expensive subscription to play it.
If you are already paying for DQX on any other system it wont work on the PS4 version.
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>>385442785
I'm on new.
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>>385442804

Dragon Quest X looks like the only good MMO out there right now. Because its trying to be more like old MMOs such as Ultima Online and not a WoW clone. Yuji Horii actually stated he wanted to make an MMO as far back as 1999, but waited until it was more economically fesiable, which meant after Final Fantasy XI proved to be a success. And he got the FFXI team to make the game.

All that being said, a lot of Japanese reviews say the game has one of the best stories in the series. I'd be fine playing it just for the single player. Anythings gotta be better than the story in Final Fantasy XIV.
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>>385442885
Fuck this makes me so sad.

Rocket Slime was fucking amazing.

Theatrhythm with DQ music, FUCK.

And those monster 3DS remakes.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>385442773
Agreed younger people just look at something and think it can be on demand. Too spoiled by Netflix, Crunchyroll etc and think things should be instant gratification. I use to remember seeing footage on websites, news articles and screenshots as time went on for it's release and still swap hyped waiting for the next game to come out.
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>>385442480
I feel if that was true it would be Nintendo announcing it on a direct.

SE themselves announcing it means it's most likely just PS4 or both versions.
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>>385442969
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>>385443168
Perhaps that's why. I'll just have to wait until the lazy faggot behind freeshop updates it, the title key is on the site it uses for christ sake.
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>>385442963

Silliconera hadn't reported it when I made the thread or I would have linked them. Being the only news site that actually cares about Dragon Quest.
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http://imgur.com/a/Q5UDE
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So who's learning Japanese here? Shouldn't be too hard to least learn enough to play a children's game right?
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>>385441356
Really? My shipping status has just updated to preparing to ship
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>>385443285
It's on gematsu faggot.

http://gematsu.com/2017/07/dragon-quest-xi-echoes-elusive-age-coming-west-2018
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>>385442773
>before we had nothing
>now we have scraps
It's progress no doubt but it's still not the real thing. Nobody is entitled for complaining when they get scraps.

Not that I care, my game is already downloaded and installed I'll just go buy some fuel and drinks and go full neet mode.
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>>385443236
It reminds me of this https://youtu.be/dgEvjW1Pq4I?t=22
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>>385443371
just link the dq twitter
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>>385443141

>If you are already paying for DQX on any other system it wont work on the PS4 version.
To be fair, they should have expected this. SquareEnix did the same shit with Final Fantasy XIV. If you own the game on PS3, your account won't work on Steam or PS4. And they dropped support for the PS3 version, meaning people had to go buy another copy of the game if they wanted to keep playing. Tons of PS3 owners got pissed.

Dragon Quest X at least allowed 3DS and smartphone users to play with their Wii accounts.
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>>385443371

>linking gematsu
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>>385443527
It double pissed people off because if you had the Wii version of DQX Nintendo had a free upgrade program for the Switch version.
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YOU FAGGOTS BETTER BUY THIS GAME

IF YOU DON'T I'M BUYING IT FOR YOU
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How about that dragon quest monsters?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQEseOOD1ak
Streaming DQXI from beginning to end.
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>>385443285
>3DS version has furigana
>PS4 version doesn't
Glad I'm pirating the 3DS jap release. I can't wait for the english ps4 release though.
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>>385443618

Buy my copy and send it to my steam account.
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>>385443280
I'm on the old 3ds XL and it's working fine. So I don't think it's that.
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>>385443669

>let's watch a stream of the game instead of playing it
Nope. This is one game I'm avoiding all news on so I can play it fresh. Just like I did for all the other DQ games. I want to relive that magic of Dragon Quest VIII, walking out into the open field for the first time and being blown away.
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>>385443618
I will buy it. I have been waiting for a modern day Dragon Quest to arrive now.
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>>385443669
I watched a LP of most of Builders before it came out internationally and that already made me feel guilty, no way I'll watch an actual mainline title before actually playing it myself
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Where's the PC announcement?
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>>385443802
Same here, it's gonna be so good
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>There'll never be a DQ VIII PS4 remake because they decided to do a demake for the 3DS instead.
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>>385444070
Lol, get a console PCbro.
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>>385444114
Maybe for ps5 pro
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>>385444070
It most likely will be announced in a few days for the systems but I do not doubt it will be on PS4/PC. My guess is PC might be later though due to them trying to work on it.
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>>385444196
Nah he'll obviously wait for "perfect" emulation
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>>385444114
Probably wouldn't do well, I mean they said they remade a chunk of DQ3s world map in UE4 and ended up putting all the time travel stuff in the 3DS version.
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>>385440191

She's pretty dreamy
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>>385442798
seconding >>385442991
I'm legit curious
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>>385444382
see
>>385443141
Japs mad because Sony version doing this and it was escalated by Nintendo offering a free upgrade to anyone who owned the Wii version
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>>385443365
Did you get tsuujou or the amazon gentei? I can get the amazon one but it's 1500 yen more
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>>385442634
How do I do any of that? I'm on a9lh.
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>>385444518
I believe you have to upgrade to b9s either way. Particularly if you wanted to use rosalina to do it because that's a feature that's only supported with that.

NTR might let you, I'm not sure. But google ntrselector and install the cia. If you are on an old 3ds, get the mode 3 one. Then run ntr, then dq11, then hit x+y to bring up a menu.
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>>385444489
that's beyond retarded
they had a golden egg goose to boost ps4 sales in japan and they blew it
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>>385444501
But do they not allow shipping beyond Japan?
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>>385444114
Fuck off you are in the wrong franchise if you want remakes
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>>385444776
Yeah, its lead some some interesting speculation by Japs though thinking Sony preventing any cross saves in DQ11 too.
Its their loss though since Wii owners are now moved to Switch free.
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>>385444831
It's really weird. Why would the one edition be restricted when the only thing the other one does is add some stupid amazon box doll
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>>385444501
The regular version that you've got highlighted. I preordered about 2 months ago so maybe that has something to do with it.
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>>385444114
if they remade DQ8 again would you want them to keep the changes (not additions like the extra party members) they made for that version?
>HP and MP restoration on level up
>AI for Hero
>Start with World map and dungeon map (dungeon chests have gold instead)
>Enemies appear on overworld instead of random encounters
>Alchemy is instant from the start, makes getting strong healing items super easy
>Blue chests added to overworld that refill daily with uncommon loot (like in 9)
>Reading books which contain recipes for alchemy will tell you the exact items needed instead of being ambiguous
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>>385443669
He does know square has placed a strict policy on streaming this game and plan to take action on anyone who breaks it right?
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It's nice to see DQ11 finally coming over here, but I'd kill to have DQMJ3Pro.
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>>385443618
>3DS
sorry pirate it is.
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>>385444983
>HP and MP restoration on level up
>Start with World map and dungeon map (dungeon chests have gold instead)
>Enemies appear on overworld instead of random encounters
The rest i can agree but those would made the game way too easy
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>>385444972
Well they told me they had to cancel the order
I guess you lucked out
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>>385444983
>Enemies appear on overworld instead of random encounters
>HP and MP restoration on level up
No, thanks. That would make the game easier.
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>>385445105
Who knows, if this becomes successful maybe we can get other games in the series in the West.
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>>385445170
Where are you from? I'm in the UK. Could just be they haven't got around to cancelling my order yet.
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>>385445083
>he
It's a pretty big, professional game channel with many people behind it Anon, not just some random fuck streaming the game. They probably got permission from Square themselves.
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>>385440058
FUCKING FINALLY THE RIDE IS OVER
>late 2018
NEVERMIND THE RIDE GOES ON
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>>385445342
I doubt it not the big channel thing but streaming it part it will be taken down once they pass a certaint point
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>>385445429
>>385442652
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>>385444983
>>385445168
>>385445210
I forgot one more thing:
>Alchemy only allows you to select items that will actually lead to a result, no more throwing two or three random items in the pot just for the pot to spit them back out saying "No good"
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>>385442885
This is why i decided to make a vow on not supporting squenix ever.

I will never buy ANYTHING made by them, after all, why give your money to a company who doesnt want it?
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>>385443685
The only reason why is because furigana is what kids use to read at first and then they move to Kanji.
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>>385440175
>terrible OSTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLQCrTgPBLk

Of all of the series to make this criticism of you pick fucking DQ?
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>>385445556
Why not asking for the fused item directly at this point
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>>385445560
Yeah I know, I'm just surprised only the 3DS version has it since DQ11 is a kid's game either way and the PS4 has higher resolution to support it.
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>>385445558
That's cool but Square Enix makes the best JRPGs in the industry so you'll miss tons of games.
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>>385445693
because of the few "gotcha" recipes where the result is worse than the two combined items, like combing magical beast hide and a dancer's costume to get leather armour
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>>385445742
I already missed everything the day i learned i will never play joker 3. Squeenix can go fuck themselves for all i care mr.shill
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>>385444868

>Fuck off you are in the wrong franchise if you want remakes
But Dragon Quest I-VIII and Two monster games all got remakes. And DQ is one of the series where remakes are actually done correctly. Not just the same shitty game with all its flaws retained, but with new graphics like Final Fantasy does.
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>>385445850
I'll never forget wasting a saint's ashes with a devil's tail only to get a leather whip.
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>>385445742

>That's cool but Square Enix makes the best JRPGs in the industry
Aside from future Dragon Quest titles, all their good games are in the past. The Square side is not making the best JRPGs by a long shot. Even low budget indie RPGs are better than their $200 million dollar Final Fantasy games. And Kingdom Hearts is just sad.
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>>385445341
US
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>>385446030
Should have realized you would get a shittier weapon it's a saint with a demon
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>>385440763
COMPLETE
GLOBAL
SALVATION
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>>385445886
Final Fantasy III & IV DS were great.
X & XII HD too.

They fucked up with V & VI though.
Also with not having remakes of VIII and IX already for the 3DS.
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>>385446030
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>>385440976
>why can't they change sugiyama
Why the fuck would they want anybody other than Sugiyama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-Ldv5WzEo
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>>385440175
>Terrible OST's

Anon you have no idea what your talking about the series has a great orchestra soundtrack. I can understand if it does not fit your 13 year old "lel rock is edgy bro" mind but orchestra is a art of it's own and appreciated even the composer is highly respected in Japan.

>DB faces

If you mean Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z faces. It should be familiar because Toriyama who is the manga artist behind it also does character designs for Dragon Quest for Square Enix. Basically this is his second job when working on Dragon Ball Z.
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>>385446152
Shut up cunt.
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>>385446181
3 ds is ok 4 is unnecessarily harder than the original and thus more griindy
X remaster is a fucking masscre
XII TZA is actualy really good
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>>385440058
>hottest girl in the game is also your sister
;_; Yuji why
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>>385446352
Why did he make her even better you mean?
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>>385446352
Welp time to get the fuck out of the thread.
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>>385446352
OH THE DOUJINS
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>>385446352
I want a puff-puff from her if you know what I mean
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>>385446414
was bound to happen
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>>385446352
Imagine the doujins.
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>>385446401
Stop being a degenerate.
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>>385446352
>>hottest girl in the game is also your sister

even better
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>>385446537
>IMG_3957
Incest is a plus.
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Any scans of Akira Toriyama Dragon Quest Illustrations?
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>>385446181

>Final Fantasy III & IV DS were great.
FFIII didn't improve what was already a really shallow and boring story. It also added new gameplay issues that weren't even present in the original. Enemies got ridiculous levels of HP and ATK meaning you had to grind to catch up to them. While your party members got less EXP than the original game so they had to grind more. That final dungeon is the worst dungeon I've ever played in a game. They also lacked Onion Knight behind a shitty wifi gimmick that was so bad, you can't even get it if you try to replay the game today.

Final Fantasy IV also didn't fix the story or gameplay issues the original Japanese game had. And like FFIII, they increased enemy stats, which means you had to grind in a game that shouldn't have grinding at all. To counter this, they added an augment system. Stuff like omnicure and dualcast really even the odds. Problem is, you don't know how to get those without looking up in a guide. So on your first playthrough, almost no one gets those augments. And the final area of the game becomes fucking stupid. Without those augments you need to be level 90+ to get through the moon. With the augments, you can do it at more like level 70. Though a couple enemies can still one shot your whole party.

>X & XII HD too.
Those are remasters and not remakes.
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>>385446414
I posted that, but it;s speculation honestly. But I mean look at the girl who tries to escape with you at the beginning of the prologue, the similarities are just far too coincidental.

That said, apologies, honestly not meaning to spoil anything.

https://youtu.be/VB9Cxnftl2w
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You guys think this includes the switch version? DQXI in English is the defining factor in if I buy the switch, I don't want to buy a ps4 and I don't want to settle with the 3ds version.
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OPは御釜wwwwwwwww
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>>385446738


Here is his work over the years. It's obviously Toriyama behind it due to how close the characters look to his own characters in Dragon Ball Z series.
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>>385446782
It's amazing how they can remake every DQ game to perfection yet they fuck it up with FF.

Same thing happens with the franchises in general, but i guess that's normal when one tries to innovate for the sake of innovation and the other sticks to it's roots and treats their releases with a lot more respect.

Hell look at FF V & VI on phones and then DQ V & VI on phones.
It's like they fuck it up on purpose.
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>>385440915
It's too late anon
DQX was released almost 7 years ago
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>>385447135
Isn't it funny how the main hero get's progressively less heroic with each design.

And that's a good thing.
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>>385447135
>DQ7 Protag
kek
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>>385447148
On the flipside, FFXI is still going, 15 years later. That means I have 10 years to learn japanese and play it.
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>>385447135
>Kiefer
i liked him but wtf is going on here
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hoes before bros
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>>385447483
i was okay with this because his descendant was delectable
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>>385447135
Why is that faggot prince from 7 there
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>>385447135
>removing the best protag
The VII protagonist has the best design, he looks like your typical npc from bum fuck nowhere and I love that.
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>>385448002
awfull art.
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>>385448060
This better? Sadly VII has much less art then the other games.
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>>385447141

Dragon Quest also has the benefit of the original creator looking over every production. Even the remakes. Whenever a DQ game is going to be remade, Yuji Horii goes back and plays the whole original game and takes notes for what the remake should add/improve. Then he plays the finished remake to test it before it gets released.

In an interview, Yuji Horii said he was amazed at how hard Dragon Quest VII was when he went back to replay the PS1 game. Which made me feel good. I thought I was just a loser who was having trouble with the game.

Anyway, Final Fantasy doesn't have this level of oversight. Or any oversight at all. There's anywhere from 6-10 different groups making FF games at any given time. So many of them are bound to be rushed or lack polish.
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>>385447483
Chad's have existed since the beginning that is proof.
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>>385446401
>>385446436
>>385446440
>>385446491
>>385446557
I only complain because that means the game won't give us any romantic moments with her. We're stuck with that milque toast childhood friend farm bitch when all I want is a puff puff from my onee-san.
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>>385446537
>complaining about degeneracy in a Japanese game
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>already spoliers happening
Good thing I don't care about the story.
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>>385448002

I like the hero from Dragon Quest VIII for the same thing. He looks like a generic guard. And the game makes you think he is until the post game. But even in the post game, you still aren't a chosen hero of destiny. You're the son of an outcast royal who happened to be in the right place at the right time.
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>>385448181
I want to sexually fuck Maribel
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>>385440058
>no voice acting
Imagine a budget cut of this magnitude.

Then ask yourself why you would support this shitty company.
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>>385448418
How do you not sexualy fuck someone
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>>385448181
Unfortunately you are right, Yuji and Nomura are the only ones that understand difficulty and know how to balance the game so it does not become impossible.
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>>385448175
Yeah maribel deserve more sex
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>>385448490
original DQ8 had no voice acting until it came to america.

We've some time before it's released here...could be adding in the same thing.
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Is this the one thats a gay ass MMO
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>>385448490
No good DQ game had voice acting, hell DQ8 would have been a 10/10 but ended up being a 6/10 because of bad VA.
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>Hero/Jester/Thief/Cleric
>they are all girls

How fucked am I?
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>>385448691
>DQ8
>Bad VA
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>>385448691
Yangus, King Trode, Medea, Angello, Marcello all had great VO.

It's stupid to shit on past games to defend the new one, having VO is great but not having it is fine too, it's a game design decision.
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>>385448827
OI GUV U LUKEN FO A GUD SHAG?
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>>385448827
It is.
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>>385448859
No GUSTO ragazzo, you forgot about Morrie.
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>>385447135
>>385446738
https://youtu.be/LfYh5u8ptNg

Here is someone going through the 30th anniversary Dragon Quest artbook of Toriyama's illustrations for Dragon Quest over the years. Yes it's in Spanish but just put it on mute and let him slowly go through the pages.
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>>385448881
>Implying that's bad.

Get some taste turboautist, bet you played Persona 5 with japanese VOs.
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>>385448657
I didn't buy the original DQ8, DQ8 was the first game in the series to feature voice acting if I'm not mistaken and it was a great dub.

You might be right but at the moment it's just a deplorable budget cut, something neo-Square Enix would do without hesitation.

>>385448691
Fuck off retard.
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This Veronica girl is pretty hot.
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>>385449094
I didn't play P5 because all of its VA was bad.
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>>385449129
>great dub
VIII babies are the cancer of US DQ fans. I get you only played VIII and think your opinion matters but it doesn't.
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DQIX > all

Any other Coop DQ?
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>>385449334
I played them all in order and i still think VIII is easily one of the best.
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>>385449281
you sick fuck.
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>>385449129

>I didn't buy the original DQ8
He's saying the Japanese release of the game didn't have voices at all. When the game was released in the west some 10 months later, they added voices to it.

>DQ8 was the first game in the series to feature voice acting if I'm not mistaken and it was a great dub.
Aside from Yangus, name one voice that didn't sound like it belonged in a hammy Hanna Barbera cartoon.
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how do I take screenshots
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>>385449579
X
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>>385449094

Funny. My friends tried to get me into Persona 3 and I skipped the game precisely because the voices were so cringe-worthy. And they said it had no dual audio option. I've skipped many other Japanese games because of a lack of Japanese voice, like Final Fantasy XIII which I didn't buy until the PC version added in dual audio.

Japanese developers just need to start having default Japanese audio in all games or many people are going to skip them. Maybe not the majority, but enough to cut into sales. The cat is out of the bag and people know these games and anime come from Japan.

When it comes to Dragon Quest XI, they better not just add in voices.
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>>385442481
I will literally and unironically kill myself if this doesn't exist.
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>>385443178
>as far back as 1999
He wanted to do one as far as 1987 http://shmuplations.com/kiyahorii/
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>>385449616
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>>385450097
Man this game looks great on ps4. How does she look in the 3ds?
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>>385441479
>IX remake on switch with full online multiplayer, more costumes/equipments, and arpg battle.
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>>385446298
>4 is unnecessarily harder
Git Gud scrub.
IV DS is one of the very few FF games to offer any challenge.
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>>385440058
>Late 2018
>Wonders why the West doesn't by JRPGs

Maybe if they released the game closer to the Nip date people would actually by the West edition
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>>385440058
>Late 2018
doesn't it just say 2018? where did you get late from?
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>>385450427
>arpg
You trying to get Hori killed?
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>>385448181
And then he made the remake too fucking easy.
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>>385449671
>He's saying the Japanese release of the game didn't have voices at all. When the game was released in the west some 10 months later, they added voices to it.
Yes and I'm saying I didn't buy it what's your point?
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>>385450468
The amount of people from the west who import the jap version is ridiculously marginal.
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>>385450327
here you go, it's not too bad.

i'm getting it for PS4 though, definitely.
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>>385450468
>by
are you retarded?
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>>385444704
Has rosalina's screenshot feature fixed yet? Last time I checked it took a lot of time just to create one screenshot.
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>>385450826
wait is she bigger than the girl on the left?
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>>385448502
It wasn't rape your Honor. I put my male aparatus inside her in a very NON SEXUAL way.
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>>385451215
Girl on the left seems to be kneeling down. She's definitely a lot bigger in every other picture I've seen of her.
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>>385446557
sauce?
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I installed DQ7 a while ago and never touched it. I think it's the hideous Toriyama art keeping me from playing it.
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>>385450715
he's making the point that it's not a fucking budget cut you nonce since no original release of Dragon Quest has ever had voice acting
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>>385444896
>Its their loss though since Wii owners are now moved to Switch free.
>free
Not really, they had to buy a shitty overpriced system. Getting a vastly superior PS4 + the game would still cost less than the Switch + free game.
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>>385450826

The graphics on the 3DS are quite impressive. But then it may just be because I'm comparing it to my memories of Dragon Quest IX.

The real test for the 3DS will be how it captures movement. Movement is the next big uncanney valley that gaming needs to surpass. And most developers aren't focusing on it. But Dragon Quest XI on PS4 seems to be attempting to just like DQVIII did on the PS2.
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>>385451639

>installed DQ7
Nah. You're a pirate, which means you have the attention span of a newt and just quit games at the first sign of effort. You didn't have to pay for it so you have no investment in actually playing it.
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I think XI has the best protagonist design.
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>>385451946
>The graphics on the 3DS are quite impressive
They are. It's just unfortunate for the 3ds that the game on ps4 looks absolutely fucking amazingly marvelous.
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>>385452079
>bootleg Trunks
>best
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>>385451946
>The graphics on the 3DS are quite impressive.
Yeah I was surprised at how good they looked compared to what I was expecting.
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>>385452079

He looks fine. I don't know why people keep complaining about him. Probably the long hair. In which case people should actually look at history before the 1800s. When most men did let their hair grow out.
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>>385452079
I think the 3ds model looks a lot better then the console model desu
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>>385452101

I'm gonna buy both so I don't care. I just want the 3DS version to look good enough to play. Dragon Quest IX was really the only game where I felt the graphics impeded gameplay. Mostly because the overworld couldn't be as detailed as Dragon Quest VIII.
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Will this have DQ IX level of equipment customization?

Please tell me the Hero armour changes and it's not just 1 or 2 cosmetic costumes.
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>>385452051
I'm not sure why you assume I pirate. Have you not seen any Steam thread of people buying games and not immediately playing them, and any backlog thread of people slowly playing games they once bought? I beat FF7 which is like a 35+ hour game, and I pirated that thing. This is the part where you try to persuade me into playing if you believe so much in the game.
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>>385452963
But you pirated it.
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>>385452849
Also it dropped to 15 fps with a party of 4 on the overworld.

And they didn't add an option to hide their 3D models while running around.

Fucking dumb.
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>>385446738
I have the book but I don't want to rip the pages to scan them for obvious reasons.
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>>385452894
>Will this have DQ IX level of equipment customization?
Most likely, no. All DQs which have established characters have no changeable outfit aside from some full costume sets.
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>>385453009
Wh- yes, I just said I pirated Final Fantasy 7.
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>>385452894
>Will this have DQ IX level of equipment customization?
Nope, seems more like DQ8. Your weapon changes but no armour aside from shields I've equipped yet has shown up.
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>>385453170
>>385453289
Cheap fucks.
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>>385453590
I doubt it's a budget thing, this is how DQ has been for the most part unless you play a CAC
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>>385451680
Because they were made in the dark ages you autist. When they got modern they got voice acting.
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>>385451946
>>385452101
>>385452309
what are you smoking and where can I get some?
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>>385450826
I kinda prefer how the 3DS version looks. PS4 version has this weird blurry filter over it that most current gen games use for some dumb reason.

Still gonna buy both versions because I'm a fucking cuck.
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>>385453708
yes I too remember all the voice acting they added in the remakes of Dragon Quest IV-VII
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>>385453590
I'd rather have one good design then 20 okay designs, 9 showed that to me
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>>385453852
>blurry filter over it that most current gen games use for some dumb reason.
It's a mix of FXAA, gaussian(low quality) bloom, and low quality SSAO. Nip developers just don't know what they're fucking doing when it comes to graphics so they look like 10 year old graphics mods made by random 14 year olds.
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Why has "MUH VOICE ACTING" become the go to shitpost in these threads now? Since when has anyone ever given a shit about VA in DQ?

I have a sneaking suspicion it's PC friends being salty they're missing out on a game both Sonybros and Nintenbros get to enjoy.
Mark my words, if this ever gets a PC port the crying about VA will suspiciously disappear.
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>>385453810
It looks pretty good for a 3ds game.
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>>385454023
it's shitposting retards latching onto the latest release, nothing new
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>>385454023
Take your medication, you're paranoid.
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>>385454023
>Since when has anyone ever given a shit about VA in DQ?
Since the PS4 version came out and it looks and feels weird as fuck in some of the more cinematic moments.
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>>385452051
>You're a pirate, which means you have the attention span of a newt and just quit games at the first sign of effort.

ever heard of the 3 episode rule, m8? saving oneself from 20 hours of mediocrity is a blessing , not a curse. more good vidya, less reluctant ugliness. sure you could say oh there are some games that eventually get good that you might miss out on-- obviously not as many as there are games that are excellent that don't quite look promising enough to spend cash on. toriyama art is fine though
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People against voice acting in the localization of XI should go and look at some real gameplay footage now that the game is out.

The cutscenes look really fucking weird with modern quality animation and facial expressions but no voices. It just looks wrong.
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>>385454272
7.4/10
"no voice acting" -IGN
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Who else /builders/ here?
Having fun, feels a little empty though.
How is Heroes 1 & 2? I need something to tide me over until DQIX lads.
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>>385454371
Yep, that's just about the most mindless response you could possibly make to that post, well done.
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>>385454445
>How is Heroes 1 & 2
I don't really like the feel of them. Not deep enough to be an action RPG and not satisfying enough to be a Musou. Enemies are kind of damage sponges and you have to chase them around a lot since your attacks send them flying.
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>>385454445
Heroes 1 is shit. 2 looks a bit more promising but haven't gotten around to it.
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>>385454715
2 is more of a grind than 1.
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>want to buy digitally
>figure it's easy since /v/ always lauds Sony for being so region free
>have to make a japanese psn account
>can't add foreign credit cards
>can't add foreign paypal
>have to create a fictitious japanese paypal account to add your foreign credit card to
I swear to god if I have to jump through any more hoops, they deserve the chargeback that's coming
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>>385454445
Heroes was a solid 7/10 and Heroes 2 8/10.
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>>385449953
>Persona 3
>Cringy voice acting

Only Junpei the rest are really good.
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>>385454968
buy a fucking store card at play asia or something
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>>385454371

No, IGN will give it an 8.5. The western localization will add voices and shitty dialects in, which the media thinks makes the games more popular. And because of this, IGN will think the game is getting hype. So they will inflate the score compared to what they normally would give it. Their reviews are based entirely on how much hype and marketing a game gets. Not the actual content of the game. Dragon Quest XI will get similar levels of hype as DQVIII did.

As a comparison, FFXV past its hype window and was being trashed by fans. So instead of getting the typical 9.2 rating, it got an 8.2 from IGN.
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>>385455385
I should be able to download a game in the comfort of my home without waiting
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what's stopping you guys from playing X? you don't need to read to play dragon quest
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>>385455481
retard
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>>385455467
when I bought a card there they send me a photograph of the code within 2 minutes and it worked fine
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>>385440175
(You)
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>>385454028
>replying to someone clearly trying to bait a console war outburst
Cmon now you are better than this senpai.
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>>385443218
lol I'm playing the monsters 3ds games on a japanese 3ds. you really don't need to read for them guys. and they are absolutely orgasmic by the way
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>>385455534
triggered?
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>>385455467
They send you the codes almost instantly. It's been that way for years now.
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>>385455918
>>385455550
Still have to pay a middle man

The paypal method worked, btw
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Top or bottom?

I really should learn how to take proper pictures.
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>>385456948
top
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>>385456948
What's the point of katakana anyway
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>>385457380
Mostly for phonetically spelling loan words
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>>385457380
Slide pad, button and chara(from character) are not native words so what did you expect?

What a weird question.
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>Dragon Quest III in UE4
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/07/25/square-enix-made-part-dragon-quest-iii-ps4-using-unreal-engine-4/
Erdrick/Loto trilogy remake when?
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>>385457380
>What's the point of katakana

It's used to spell loanwords (non-Chinese) and foreign names. It's also used sometimes for emphatic context, similar to spelling in all-caps in English. But really, there's no "point" to it being there. Japanese doesn't need more than one writing system.
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>>385457116
Man this shit looks great. Obviously nowhere near the ps4 but I was not expecting it to look this good.
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>>385457437
>>385457497
>>385457710
Couldn't they just put those in brackets instead of having a whole other alphabet of characters? also whoops I meant to say kanji. Japanese seems like an inefficient language when it comes to writing.
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>>385457725
The character models are especially impressive
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>>385457380

Foreign words. There's a lot of cases where a foreign word would be spelled the same as an existing Japanese word. They differentiate between these by using Hiragana for the Japanese word and Katakana for the foreign word. Then things get even more confusing when the same word is spelled in Hiragana and Kanji, but have different pronunciations based on it being Chinese or Japanese.
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>>385440058

Wtf is it taking so long for.
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>>385457725

The blonde girl in the starting area is super genki and cute.
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>>385457776
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>>385457930
I hope the game ends with you returning to the village and marrying her
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>>385457913

It takes at least 9 months to fuck up a translation.
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i haven;t been keeping up, i;m totally stoked for the game, but avoiding a lot of the videos/news. But does the game at least have differently pitched bloops/bleeps for dialogue since there is no voice acting?

I love that shit.
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>>385458018
It takes one post to prove ignorance.
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>>385454445

Just finished builders. Wish minecraft was more like it.
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>>385458167
I saw a bit of a stream and a loli had higher pitched beeps. GOTY
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I swear, if those soldiers kill my village waifu I'm going to lose it.
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>>385458302
thank you anon, faith restored.
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>>385458302
best fucking detail, love when games do that
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>>385457776
Once you consider how many kanji there are (thousands), the addition of 50 characters is rather insubstantial. Katakana are based off of kanji anyway. They're highly simplified parts of kanji
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>>385458193

What is ignorant about that post? Most of the previous DQ games come out about 9 months after the localization began. The rest is just joking that the translation is bad.
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>>385441512
It means your SD card is fucked. I got the same thing a while back. You should buy new one. You got bad sectors. Card is probably refurbished or some faulty factory rejects. You were scammed.
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>>385457776
kanji is why I stopped learning japanese but I know it has a place there. I mean writing everything in hiragana and katakana makes a long ass sentence just to say very simple things. kanji makes the length more appropriate
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>>385442963
OP is a massive faggot.
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I guess it'll take until late 2018 to localize so we can make sure there's nothing too problematic in it to censor.
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>>385458435
Anon , this is not a Yoko Taro game
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>>385459286
I doubt it'll take over a year
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>>385459415
April is my guess.
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>>385447135
>Gohan
>Trunks
>Gohan
>Ginyu Force
>Gohan
>Gohan
>Mr Satan
>Literally who
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>>385441514
square also is a very different company now especially with a different CEO who is essentially all for worldwide releases of everything and pc ports.

I mean for fucks sakes, we got THREE dragon quest spin offs in the past couple of years, thats actually an incredible amount of western output for this series.
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>>385450715
There was an option to turn off voices in VIII. That's what I did.
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Any word from nipland how XI is?
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>>385459670
Plenty of players in this thread.
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>>385459670
I just started but it is what it is: comfy JRPG.
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>>385459670
It's a Dragon Quest game.
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>>385459670
PS4 > 3DS apparently
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>>385442634
>NTR saves to root as Top and bot.
Any way to automatically upload it to my computer or do I need to pass them the old fashion way via sd/closing the game and going into settings to set up wifi sharing?
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>>385459670
It's better than nothing.
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>>385453708

>Because they were made in the dark ages you autist. When they got modern they got voice acting.
The only DQ games to ever have voice acting were Dragon Quest VIII, Swords, Heroes and technically Kenshin. When it comes to sales, all those DQ games are some of the lower selling DQ games in Japan. There's nothing to really indicate to Armor Project that voice acting helped sell games so it was probably the primary reason they didn't bother with voices in Dragon Quest XI. Also the fact that there isn't a big advantage to having voices. If you do voices bad, it can completely destroy your game (see Metroid Other M or Zelda BotW). But if do voices well, people don't notice. To do voices 'well', they need to be natural and not stand out. And you can get the same effect by not having voices. But if you add in voices, there's a huge chance people won't like them and it hurts you game.

In the west, Dragon Quest VIII has become synonymous with good voice acting. Though that's mostly tied to just one character (Yangus) and not really the quality of the overall game. Andall the other games which had voice acting are pretty much ignored, both because they were really cheesy and because the novelty of voice acting in games wore off. Voices are just a standard thing in video games now. So they don't get judged when they are good, just when they are bad. Western sales of DQ also didn't see any noticable improvement from the addition of voice acting. What sold DQVIII was marketing, not the voice acting. And voices sure didn't help sell Swords or Heroes.

tl;dr Voice Acting has a bigger chance to hurt a game than help it. And Dragon Quest XI not having voices is actually making it stand out in an age when every other JRPG is trying to focus on famous seiyuu as a primary selling point.
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>>385460510
It's so stupid that people are even arguing about this.
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>3ds version has furigana
>ps4 version doesn't
what kind of statement are they making here
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>>385460861
Little kids play on 3DS.
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>>385460896
But that's blasphemy on /v/!
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>>385460510
I remember sword's va actually being pretty decent
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>>385460861
>bla bla bla console war bla bla bla why aren't people throwing shit at each other
What kind of statement are you making here?
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>>385461091
It's an observation, does it upset you?
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>>385440058
Anybody worried about the battle system? Looks like you are not choosing all your team actions at the same time, but more like a FFX battle system.
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>>385460510
Also, people hate reading. Doesn't surprise me these underage faggots are pushing for voice acting.
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>>385461135
Furigana? Not at all, it's going to help me occasionally so it's welcomed for me.

Console warrior mentality on the other hand is very annoying and a lot of people are tired of it.
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>>385461204
The 3ds version at least has you choosing all of your commands at the start of the turn like normal.
Not sure about PS4 yet.
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>>385461298
>Furigana? Not at all, it's going to help me occasionally so it's welcomed for me.
This was my thought too, but I'm sure the Japanese view it differently. For them it's implying the 3DS version is for kids whereas the PS4 version isn't
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>>385461068

The problem with Swords is not the voice actors being bad but the localization team insisting they dial it up to 100 on the dialects. It made it sound like your party members were a sleezy French hooker and a bad Scrooge McDuck impersonator.

There's something to be said about subtlety. Something dubbing directors never seem to understand.
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>>385461328
I'm watching some PS4 gameplay right now and it looks like that, FFX.

Take a look https://youtu.be/V5MqZ9vrHW8?t=1h41m32s
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>>385443527
The ps4 upgrade was free on multiple occasions for multiple months though
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>>385461413
The originals had over the top accents too, you fucking fool. I wish you imbeciles quit blaming localizations for shitty scripts snd retarded direction.
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>>385461368

The better idea would be that Japanese games as a whole just have an option to turn Kanji off or on. I can see it now. A bunch of 10 year olds purposefully turning on Kanji to try and feel mature. And a bunch of 45 year old businessmen turn off Kanji to relax and remember their childhood days on the Famicom.
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>>385461717
>And a bunch of 45 year old businessmen turn off Kanji to relax and remember their childhood days on the Famicom.
Are you a madman?

Once you are used to reading normal content it's very, very, very annoying to read full blown sentences in full kana.
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>>385461635

>The originals had over the top accents too, you fucking fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYSi57KAxQ

No accent in the Japanese version at all, idiot. It's the western localizations that change every character to a different dialect. For no reason.
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Soundtrack is terrible. Sugiyama is too fucking old to compose anything worthwhile anymore

Toriyama is phoning it in with the character and monster designs because DQ doesn't let him design whatever he wants. also he's lazy and doesn't give a fuck either

Horii is probably the one who put the most work into making sure the actual game isn't a steaming pile of shit.

This is a series which peaked creatively and financially with the third installment; it's well-made, but there isn't anything particularly amazing about it.
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>>385461852
How hard would it be to make it optional though

I mean back in the 4th-5th generations that would have obviously been too resource intensive to add an option feature like that, but in the 8th generation there's no excuse why you can't turn furigana off/on in any game
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>>385461635

>The originals had over the top accents too, you fucking fool.
Only a handful of characters in the entire series have had dialects in the Japanese version. Like Stella in DQIX, which Japan hated. And ironically when the game got localized, Stella was one of the few characters that DIDN'T get a dialect.

>I wish you imbeciles quit blaming localizations for shitty scripts snd retarded direction.
Why? That's exactly what they're doing.
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>>385460510
>Dragon Quest XI not having voices is actually making it stand out
This is so incredibly ass-backwards I have no doubt some senile businessman on his sixties at Square actually believes it.
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>>385443527
If you had XIV on ps3 you could upgrade to the ps4 version for free, no one waa pissed because it meant that they didn't had to develop with ps3 limitations in mind. The fuck are you on about
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The real reason XI doesn't have voice acting is because Horii is a writer through and through, and not having voice acting allowed him to make changes to the script up until the very end.
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>>385462003

>Soundtrack is terrible. Sugiyama is too fucking old to compose anything worthwhile anymore
You haven't even heard the symphonic suite yet so opinion discarded.

>Toriyama is phoning it in with the character and monster designs because DQ doesn't let him design whatever he wants. also he's lazy and doesn't give a fuck either
The designs for this game are the biggest change DQ has had. Some people don't even recognize it's Dragon Quest until people tell them. The only real tell are the eyes. Even the characters hair don't look like typical Toriyama designs.

>Horii is probably the one who put the most work into making sure the actual game isn't a steaming pile of shit.
And his staff. And everyone else involved.

>This is a series which peaked creatively and financially with the third installment
Yup. Another DQ troll who doesn't know anything about the series.
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>>385462004
Who knows. It doesn't really matter that much. Nobody pays too much attention to it going "oh my god X is for kids" in the internet except for that shitposter from before.
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>>385462424
You're such a cocksucking shill for this series holy shit
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>>385462102

Everything old is new again. Dragon Quest going back to true turn based combat, single player focus and no voice acting is going to make it stand out at a time when most other JRPGs are trying to be an ARPG with a focus on voiced cutscenes. Don't believe me? Just wait for the games sales and public reception.
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>>385462619
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>midi OST
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>>385462758
>obvious x is obvious meme
you must be as old as sugiyama
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>>385462882
Joke's on you, I have a falcon knife earring and assassin's stab. Did that with a Metal King Slime and was left speechless when it happened.
>MKS smoothly dodges the attack.
Two seconds later
>MKS is killed.
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>>385462637
>DQ doing the thing it has been doing since it's inception and staying true to it's root will makes this particular entry of DQ stand out and be super successful!
No Anon, just...no.
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>>385463179

Yes anon, just yes. The last two main DQ games were multiplayer focused and went wildly away from the standards of the series. Fans complained a ton about it and DQXI is going back to the series roots (both in gameplay and story). It is going to be successful because it's doing what fans want.

Other series keep trying to make huge sweeping changes and go against JRPG norms. And the fans keep complaining about it. Especially Final Fantasy who keeps trying to cater to the west.

Again, the games reception and sales will prove me right. I will even predict that DQXI will sell more in the west than expected because fans here want a return to classic JRPGs.
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>>385461717
not using kanji is considered very childish in japanese culture. it's like not knowing how to tie shoes
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>>385462882
YOU GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKER
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Are you going for a one handed or two handed build for hero? The first skill for two handed sounds very weak.
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>>385463558

Which is why old Japanese businessmen would love to do it. After spending 12 hours stuck in a rigid society, they want to come home, fap to some loli porn and play a childish game.
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>>385464028
Again, you don't get it. It's not about worrying what other people think, it's about being annoying to read.

It's not comfy it's just annoying.
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>>385464146

The western translations of Dragon Quest are full of annoying text with dozens of apostrophes and made up words that make it a pain to read, yet people keep saying they want that instead of an easier translation. What makes you think Japanese businessmen would get annoyed reading a couple more letters per sentence?
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>>385464443
>reading a couple more letters
It's not about the number of letters. You'll understand for yourself eventually.
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>>385464443
You could at least argue that the translation gives it more personality. Having only kana adds nothing and just makes everything more annoying to read.
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>>385464706

How does the Kanji give a Japanese game more personality? It's usually the Katakana that is used for that. And of course the content of the characters actions and dialogue.
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>>385464954
>How does the Kanji give a Japanese game more personality?
That's not what I said though. I meant at least you could argue that the English translation added some personality if you're into that. Making it only kana doesn't do anything like that and only makes it more annoying to read.
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>>385465248

Well I got confused since you seem to be making two different points not related to each other. But I guess I'm to blame since I was making a joke about western translations being worse than the Japanese having to read full hiragana sentences.
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>Getting localized to ??/??/2018
>probably is gonna be in summer 2018
>we dont even know if 3ds version is safe
Fuck damn it i wish these things were worldwide. The wait is too damn long
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>>385465541

Hopefully the new management in SE will assure all three versions get released. There's no reason to skip the 3DS when there's so many more 3DS units on the market. Even if it sells less than the PS4 version.

Of course, it also depends on if they market the game at all. This game has the potential to sell 2+ million copies in the west and break DQVIII sales. But only if they market as much as DQVIII.
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>late 2018

But why.
It's a fucking localization, not an entirely new game.
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>>385466991
adding zee accents izz a lot of verk non?
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>>385466813
>when there's so many more 3DS units on the market
Not true outside of Japan
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>>385466991
Hopefully a sign they are adding stuff like voice acting and orchestral soundtrack.
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>>385467718

There are 21 million 3DS units sold in America and 18 million elsewhere. With 22 million in Japan. The console is doing about the same in every region, plus or minus 7-8%. That's a really good justification that every region should have the 3DS version of the game.

And the PS4 has about 22 million in America and surprisingly 24 million elsewhere. But still, that's not that far from the 3DS. The only thing lagging is PS4 units in Japan with only 4.5 million. This could be the biggest justification for releasing the PS4 version outside Japan. But when the west has almost as many 3DS units as PS4 units out, they both should get a release.

Of course this is SquareEnix. And they love to fuck themselves over with stupid decisions.
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>>385467871

>voice acting
Oh god no.

>orchestrated music
Oh god yes.
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>>385463584
At least for the start I see no reason to not equip the great sword right away.
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I wish DQ Builders was the port they made to Switch instead of Heroes, but that was probably a Koei thing.
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>>385468372
After MHW and the whole "adult conversations" thing with the Switch version, I wouldn't doubt Sony having some influence over this. I'm still wondering what happened to the Switch version in Japan, it doesn't even have a date yet
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Does the hero have a canonical name? I hate naming characters ;_;
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>>385468841
I always name them the same thing every time.
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>>385468841

Name him Rufio.
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>>385468841
Hiro
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>>385468776
We know whats happening to the Switch version thanks to the financial meeting.
Horii said that they hit a point where if they didn't focus on 3DS and PS4 they would have to delay them so the Switch version was put on hold, they did say development is going surprisingly well and that some members are still working on it in their free time.
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>>385468446
>Oh god no.
Go and watch footage of cutscenes from the game. It looks ridiculous without voice acting, like the characters are mimes or something.
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>>385468971
Not a bad option
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>>385466991
Why are we even beating around the fucking bush.
The west is getting voice acting again.

The End.
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This is ridiculous!
It hasn't even been a day since the Japanese release. They can't announce a Western localization yet! They have to leave us in the dark for at least two to four years! It's tradition!
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>>385469278
We are still in the dark. 2018 could mean in 4 months or it could mean over a year from now.
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This is Veronica. She will be your main offensive spellcaster.
Say something nice about her!
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>>385469456
Does she do anal?
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>>385469495
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>>385469550
>>385469456
i could have sworn, in the initial reveal of the game, they showed a grown up Veronica walking through the forest and seeing Senya playing a harp or such.

Anyone else remember this?
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>>385469456
I want to cum on her face
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>>385469550
I'll take that as a no. Into the trash it goes.
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>>385469456
I'm legit interested to see how this will look on Switch, we know its the UE4 version and if you look close you can see 90% of the details in on the main cast while everyone else is pretty average in terms of modeling and texturing.
There was also that jap rumor that Epic game Japan was helping with the port
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>>385463563
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>>385469672
That was a different girl that looked a lot like Veronica.
It's really weird.
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smug
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>>385469456
>>385469550
here, this is veronica right??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzN6XUl4Zg
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I'm actually genuinely and legitimately excited about this.

There's something about DQ games that just makes me happy. They're such nice games. I always feel like they know exactly what the game wants to be and them make it so.
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>>385469883
Seriously? Shit, the entire outfit matches other than the white string, but the dress is the same with the ribbon and everything.
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>>385469384
Oh it'll absolutely be over a year. Holiday 2018, I bet.
Only to be delayed to early 2019 like VIII-3DS was.
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>>385469963
Anon's lying. We don't actually know.
For all we know Veronica could be afflicted by a youth curse and is actually closer in age to her older sister, with that woman we saw being what she looked like before.
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>>385469885
>from holy land
>uses magic
Isn't that heresy?
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Ok /v/ how long of active study Japanese would it take to be able to play this? I hear Dragon Quest is super simple due to it being aimed at for kids.
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>>385470162
It uses Kanji, so no. Just no.
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There's something I never understood

Toriyama always draws sameface girls with little boobies and flat asses, how do porn artists manage to turn that into good porn?
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>>385470086
i thought the bit about how Veronica "hates being treated like a child" could be hinting to this as well
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>>385470306
Doesn't the 3ds one have furigana or someshit?
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>>385470162
>Dragon Quest
>aimed at kids
lol no, it's aimed at 30-40 year old men
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>>385450436
Nah it's just an unnecessary grind, having ennemies being way more tanky and dealing way more damage is not an improvement, jesus christ i'v had enough of people like you throwing "git gud" at every single criticism
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>>385470162
50 years
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>>385470348
The same way porn artists always do that:
They don't stay accurate to the character's designs.
Dragon Quest porn almost always turns the characters into titty monsters.
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>>385470162
Depends.
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>>385470761
>Butcha u

pls no
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So has someone in Japan beaten it yet?
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>>385471052
ill remodel your shithole, faggot
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>>385471217
still better than butcha u
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>>385470162
I am in year 2 almost and I can tell you I almost now basics. But it will take between 3-5 years to know native and conversational.
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>>385440441
Wtf I love slimes now
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>>385440976

Sugiyama is an actual idiot-savant tier composition genius.

I'm not even exaggerating.
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>>385468987

Are you talking about DQXI or DQVIII? I played all of DQVIII without voices on and it went fine.
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>>385470761

>BUTCH
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>>385471359
>native and conversational.
Nobody cares and nobody asked. That guy wants to know about playing the game.
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>>385440976

Sugiyama was the first person to make an orchestrated remix of a video game OST. He also had an ongoing yearly orchestra concert where he got tons of composers together and did orchestrated remixes of their work. He also helped found the New Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra. His training in college was in classical music. He also writes all the DQ music for orchestra first, then it is redone into synth for the actual games release.

Sugiyama is all about orchestration. Uematsu is the guy who prefers synth (and his works sound better in MIDI/synth).
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>>385471359
Please tell me how you've studied these two years.
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>>385472304
That's such an ignorant statement to make I'm inclined to believe you're American.
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>>385472443
OBSESSED
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>>385472440
Anime without subtitles.
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I'm watching a walkthrough right now. Don't understand a word but the world looks seriously fun to explore.
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>>385472519
IGNORAMUS
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>>385472029
DQXI
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>>385472443
This is /v/, you clearly don't understand what matters here. I don't know how new are you but you need to lurk more.
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>>385473016

Clearly he's lurked enough. He's deflecting from having an actual argument and blaming America for all the things he doesn't like. Add some cussing and that's basically every argument on 4chan when Europe is awake.
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>>385472598
Don't worry anon I'm playing for you.
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No spoilers you fucking faggots!

Is the world as big and free roaming as Dragon Quest VIII or is it more linear like VII?
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>>385472393
I have to agree to Uematsu guy is a legend he makes music for all the Neptunia games last I checked.
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Am I going to have to avoid the internet for spoilers? Or is Dragon Quest niche enough for it to not matter.
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I just hope there are a ton of weapons in this game compared to VIII I was almost a quarter through the game and still only had a few swords. I mean the amount of weapons in total is what I would like for each weapon type, well maybe a little less
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>>385440058
Are Dragon Quest games good entry level games for learning Japanese?
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>>385474557
Only IX is. It has furigana which makes things a bit easier.
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>>385474732
If you are gonna go for that reason then XI on the 3ds too.
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>>385474772
Using XI as a means of learning would probably be fine but you'll spend so much time with it you'll be sick of it by the time it's out in english.
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>>385475020
Not really, I'm still a learner and I'm breezing through XI like hot knife on butter. At least so far anyway.
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>>385475586
How long have you been learning?
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>>385475705
About a year of experience.
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>>385473871

Uematsu was also an understudy to Sugiyama for a time and was picked to do the music for Final Fantasy because Square wanted to follow the Dragon Quest formula. Hence why in interviews Uematsu refers to Sugiyama as "the master".
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>>385475812
And you actually get the story, or can simply navigate the menus etc?
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>>385475586
>>385475812
I'm referring to someone who is just starting off.
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>>385476059
Everything so far man. I did mean hot knife on butter.

I haven't played too much yet though, hero just went out to cool his head after not being able to sleep over the whole hero rebirth bomb dropped on his head. I spoke with all the npcs so far, in the village and at the starting area. It's just going very smooth.
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>>385476204
You're going to be really frustrated if you're starting from zero and jump right into a game. You need a foundation first, otherwise you won't be learning anything, you'll just be hitting constant road blocks
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>>385476569
Any tips on studying Anon? What did you do?
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>>385476569
I'm impressed you're doing so well after just a year
Do you live in Japan? How much time per day have you put into to studying?

After my first year in college, I doubt I would have had any clue what was going on here
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>>385440058
I'm still looking for a rip of the japanese soundtrack for the 3DS version of VIII. I can't find the tracks anywhere.
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Hoping Square Enix pull a Sega (Valkyria Revolution) and release DQXI for xbone here in the west.
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>>385477414
>owning an Xbone
lmfao
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>>385469885
How can a game look this good? Jesus fuck, I'm speechless.
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>>385477794
hahahaha well meme'd
have an upvote for originality
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>>385477414
>xbone
Are you implying there is a third video game console besides the switch and ps4?
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>>385473551
I hope it's more linear, the VIII is needlessly open and it gains nothing from it.
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>>385477830
The characters have this uncanny valley thing going for me, which I rarely get. I think it's the gigantic eyes that look weird, when they're otherwise getting quite realistic looking

Another thing I noticed is while the world is incredibly beautiful, BotW has really spoiled me. XI's jump feature is basically worthless and tacked on. The world is very restricted with invisible walls everywhere and you can't stray off the beaten path at all. I keep instinctually wanting to climb trees and rocks and shit but nope. Only comparing them because I just finished playing master mode
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>>385478118
Soon.
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>>385476737
>>385476661
I don't live in Japan. My daily study goes from 30 minutes to several hours, depends on the day I guess.

I don't know man, I do a lot of visual novel reading with aid of rikaisama. I mean a lot. Shit was a nightmare at first but now I use rikaisama much, much less. I guess that shit adds up. I mine a lot of words too and I enjoy learning stroke order and mentally/air drawing kanji often.

I guess just keep reading is my advice, but then again I don't even read every day. A lot of days I only do the mining deck reps+new words. I don't know, I would make a terrible teacher.
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>>385478162

>the VIII is needlessly open and it gains nothing from it.
It gains plenty for it. Dragon Quest VIII did things with the overworld no DQ game before could do. And I want DQXI to do even more.
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>>385478536
Recommend me some good VNs.
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>>385476204
Not that Anon But I can point you in a direction. Memrise app(free and recommend Katakana+ and Hiragana+ then JLPT5 and 4 readings,6000 japanese words.) and "Japanese the manga way" book for grammar after a few months, those will be the best starting points. I will say you need to be dedicated to it everyday. It will take awhile and the courses I did show are not going to make you completely fluent but at least you will be on the right path to get to that point. Just do not feel bad if you do not understand everything at first.

>>385478536
It helps a lot to have that kind of help honestly or even ones that have furigana to start out with.
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>>385478536
>tips on
What's Rikaisama?
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>>385472393
>and his works sound better in MIDI/synth
sometimes yes but sometimes the orchestrated versions sound better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRXSSLPuMF4
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>>385478731
堕ちる人妻 and 対魔忍アサギ3 are the two I have actually been playing lately.

The very first one I read was 寝取られ塾母夏子 though. It was probably not the best choice for first VN but I really wanted to read it. It was a fucking headache at the start but it got way easier before I was done.

I don't know if I would ever tell anyone to follow in my footsteps though. Everything was a complete mess and nothing had any proper planning I think.
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>>385478872
Rikaisama is a hook for visual novels in Japanese. There is also one on Firefox and Chrome to read Japanese words they tell you the Hiragana of the Kanji to help you read it.
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>>385478803
I gotta be honest I absolutely hate Anki, if I just go through Genki 1 and 2 would I be able to handle a DQ game with Furigana at least?
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>>385478972
>寝取られ塾母夏子
熟母*
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any word on dragon quest heroes 1&2 ever coming out in the west?>>385440058
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>>385479047
Memrise is not Anki at all I know how you feel. Some people like Anki because they are use to Flashcards but Memrise has mems or hints written by people.

I will say just go through Japanese The Manga way honestly it's good for Grammar(it helps you put the sentence together) and learn Katakana + Hiragana and Vocab. I do not know which level you need to be honestly. But I will say Grammar is essential after you get the alphabet of Japanese down and some vocab under your belt.
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>>385479207
Dragon Quest Heroes 2 I think is coming West.
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>>385479348
I got Hiragana down, currently studying katakana alongside Genki 1 for grammar. I'm using this helpful app called Kana town. I'll look into Memrise.
My goal is to learn enough Japanese to play DQ10 with a bit of player interaction and explain to a former japanese roomate why I argued with the housemother and shattered a glass in my hand
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>>385478953

Yeah, some of his songs like the FFVII main theme and Balamb Garden sound better with real instruments. But its amazing how many of the more recent Uematsu stuff sounds horrible when it was written for orchestra only. Especially the Smash Bros Brawl main theme. Got tired of that the second time I heard it.
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>>385479564
Trust me Memrise is free and it works really well with what you need. Good idea lol I only know some basic stuff for now and some complex ways to say things but yet I get tripped here and there because I read visual novels that end up being too high of vocab.
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>>385479520
No i mean the bundle with extra content.
I think it's the switch version
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>>385479612
Brawl's main theme is great, though I find his recent to be rather bland too. Blue Dragon's music is kinda boring.
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>>385440594
>FE

Fuck off with that cancer
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>>385479520
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>>385479838
Oh it might be coming to Switch it's still possible.
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>>385479745
>Blue Dragon's music is kinda boring
I would always jam out to Eternity and sing out loud every boss fight, and the final boss theme against Deathroy is one of my favorites of all time
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>>385479838
That's only on Switch, right? If so then I don't want it. I've seen Digital Foundry's vid on it and it runs like shit. SE really just pushed this one through for launch day. Unless they can get it to run smoothly, then I'll pass.
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I don't know a single thing about Dragon Quest.

What should I know before getting this new Future Trunks game?
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>>385478872
What I do specifically is I use a texthook to get the text from the game. Then I use a script to pass the text from the texthook app to firefox, where I have rikaisama.
On firefox I can easily mouse over a word I don't know and see the meaning, and mine it with the press of 1 button if I want to mine that word.

So what I did at first, after having basic grammar and kana obviously, was just go out there and get my face destroyed by visual novels. I didn't care if I had to mouse over every single fucking word in a sentence, I kept reading and I kept mining the fuck out of everything. By "kept reading" don't assume I was reading every day because I wasn't, but I was reading often enough I suppose.

What I WAS doing everyday though, was studying my mined words on anki. All those words I mined with 1 button on rikaisama? Set to show to me 20 new a day on anki and I just kept going in this system. Get my face wrekt while reading and mining so many words per reading session I couldn't even remember half of them, doing 20 new words on the mining deck and reviews.

Eventually things just started to get smoother and smoother.
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>>385479990
They already patched it, it runs much better now especially compared to the vita version.
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>>385479926
Oh yeah those kick absolute ass, it's the others that are boring
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>>385480018
It's a turn based RPG that's been around since the nes days.
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>>385480018
It's very traditional turn based menu combat, with a very JRPG-ish story. There's nothing else you need to know. The games are not related to each other, except that they play the same
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Aight what the fuck is going on
I came back to the village and it's 10 years in the past?
Emma is a loli and mom doesn't recognize me
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Another Anon here. Once you have Hiragana and Katakana memorized and I mean for real memorized. Like you can recognnize it almost or as fast as you do the English alphabet. Read a fuck ton of children stories. Ones for little kids. The grammar will be insanely simple and just gradually move up from there. Basically treat yourself like a Japanese baby. Moving up too fast will only burn you out and cause you to have random bursts of "learning" Japanese.
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>>385480181
Oh well if that's the case then bring it on. Glad I didn't get it for PS4 yet then. I love portable gaming.
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>>385480370
Not him but it still runs like fucking trash, Koei's FE Musou also runs bad which makes people think its their shitty PS2 engine.
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The story this time around is pretty intriguing. Lots of mysteries
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>>385479612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmQm76wFfKk

Nah, he's still got it. Although it would be 10X better without the annoying vocals.
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>>385480362
>Basically treat yourself like a japanese baby
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PS4 version seems to have a motion blur which you can't turn off of course
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>>385440058
so
is it good?

does the split screen thing do anything or is it just for show?

oh, does it change the music from 16bit to new shit?
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How do you trigger Zone? Just randomly getting hit?
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>>385481414
Calling DQ music 16-bit is an insult to 16-bit. The SNES and Genesis both sounded much nicer than DQ music's harsh and tinny sound.
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>>385446057
this

i'm a LONG fucking time fan of both companies and they used to BOTH make amazing games

but now, square is a sad former shell of itself. i mean, REALLY fucking sad. they used to put out an RPG and you would salivate waiting for it to come out and it was good when it did.

enix had the DQ series, which has remained solid as fuck for the last 30~ years. they don't push or pull too much and its fine really, i wouldn't want DQ to change horribly and make an FF15.

sadly, pic related left my collection years ago back in 2013. that DW4 was fucking sealed when i found it, fucking opened that shit and played the hell out of it. RIP
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>>385481848
but the games were on fucking SNES, you shit!

did you not see fucking screenshots of the lower screen that looked like DQ4-6?

god, i fucking hate you now!
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>>385481997
You have no fucking clue what I'm talking about. I'm referring to the MIDI sounds they use in modern DQ games, dumbass.
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